“Caravaggio Boy” (w/ Matt & Bowen)
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- Bo, listen, vacation, it's something you gotta get right. - I have never agreed with you more. And I've had so many wonderful trips with you in the past. I remember one of our fantastic Airbnb trips upstate. We got this four bedroom Airbnb, little cabin,

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Hey, everybody. This is Matt, and my album, Have You Heard of Christmas?, is out now. Stream it wherever you stream things. And also, pre-order the vinyl at www.mattrogersofficial.com, where there's tons of merch and also tickets for my tour. I'll see you next time.

I'm going to be in London, November 13th to 18th at the Soho Theater. Please come see me. And then I start in Philly on December 1st and I'm all over North America till December 23rd. All right. Thanks.

Look, man. Oh, I see. Bowen, look over there. Is that culture? Las Culturistas. Ding dong. Las Culturistas calling. It's 9 a.m. Girl, this is the morning show. This is the morning show. I feel like I'm Bradley. I'm Chris right now. You feel like Chris? Honey, I feel like Chris every day of my life. The finale is tomorrow.

I can't wait. Everyone's asking what's going to happen with Chris. You know, I guess she got the Jennifer Aniston Reese Witherspoon treatment where she disappeared for a full two episodes or whatever and then came back with the vengeance. I love that it's the Jennifer Aniston Reese Witherspoon treatment. I'm referring to the fact that they just won't be in episodes. Sorry, the Jennifer Aniston Reese Witherspoon treatment is that you get to not be in every episode and you also get paid an EP salary. Exactly. Exactly. Here's what I'll say.

I like seeing that the girls were finally in a scene together and to see if they had some conflict. And this last episode, by the way, talk about this episode. And by the way, so when I say this last episode, I mean 309, the ninth episode, because now as of this episode being out, the finale will be out.

So look for reactions for that later. Yeah. But the ninth episode of the show, I texted Bo and I'm like, I don't know what happened, but this show suddenly became a show prestige TV in the way that it always thinks it is sometimes. But this, this episode was such a knockdown drag out. Like you said, it finally works. I guess I always feel it works, but this all of a sudden was like,

Every scene had energy, motion. You realize everything they've been putting in there is working out. Suddenly, I found myself eating my hat. I think these third graders are in college. These third graders are in college, and they know that you need to get to episode nine in a season for it to really pick up. The second to last episode needs to...

finally be the thing that makes you go, yes. The second to last episode needs to go hard. Wait, I'm also just noticing right now, you have... I'm sitting here next to Tom Selleck. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. The way that your mustache is... This is the most I've ever seen it grow in. It's so...

I describe it as a paltry mustache. It's paltry, girl. But I think I'm kind of into it. I think it's a vibe. But it has to go for professional reasons. I just, I had the week off. I had the week off and I went, let me just try this girl. Yeah. Well, it's definitely more grown in than I've ever seen it. I just, I can't do, you really...

step into the mustache geesh. I need to get back there. I think mustache for Christmas. Is there any... I think I'm going to start growing my stuff out. So...

maybe this is a little bit of a spoiler but i got put into drag by trixie mattel for an upcoming youtube collaboration that we're doing this did i show you you didn't show me you said that you did a collab with trixie i'm gonna show you me in drag right now i'm not gonna say exactly what the fantasy we were going for was but i am going to say that i went over to trixie's

YouTube studio and basically girl that's why I'm showing Bowen oh I want to say what this is so badly I mean I can't we can say no no no it's such a spoiler no this is main Dermot can you believe that is 10 out of 10 a plus I am a gog aghast not aghast I'm a gog he's aghast and agog

Yeah, I had the best time with Trixie, but here's the thing about drag. And I don't know why I thought I could kind of get away with this, but I was like, I can go over there and have some stubble. And I go over to Trixie's studio. She looks at me and she goes, well, girl, you need to shave. And I was like, no, but can't you, you know? She goes, can I what? Yeah, what did you think she could do? I don't know. I just thought like, I thought on Drag Race, like sometimes like you do see some of the girls with stubble.

And then they go in their fantasy and they beat their face and like it kind of disappears. I think that's I'm saying. I think you just don't show them shaving because they need to be over a thing. You know what I mean? Girl, this is how you know my co-host is in the television industry. He knows a movie magic girl. Don't even speaking of TV magic. But what do you think made it work?

in 3:09 of the morning. I'm going to tell you this. Every single scene, it was like, well, first of all, the hat is coming off to Reese.

You think? Listen. My takeaway, I'm sorry, and I love Reese down, but my takeaway was finally, Juliana gets to eat. Well, they gave Juliana something to do. Yes. And what I've realized is like, wow. So basically like, okay, so to give a little bit of what's going on,

We famously know Bradley Jackson went to the insurrection to report on the ground and she wore a hat over her gorgeous blonde, naturally blonde. I can't say enough naturally blonde Bradley Jackson hair, even though she's a red head.

She finds her brother attacking a police officer. She just so happens to be rolling her iPhone on it. And they have a moment where she basically has caught her brother as an insurrectionist, a violent insurrectionist, assaulting a police officer. Certainly he should go to prison, but she deletes the footage thereby.

invalidating her as a journalist, basically. So, Corey, aka Billy Crudup, who is to this day giving one of the craziest performances on television. Well, he's so, like, I love him. I love that his choice for this character is just caricature of TV, exactly. Like, talking in a way that is even more... Like, I thought Succession became a parody of itself, sort of, by the end. The way that these characters talked and these, like, you know...

oh, you're doing a vulture stab. Like they would just make up terms, like business terms that you'd never heard. It was an animal. Like the business terms on Succession were always animal verb. Yes. Bear hug, vulture stab, like whatever. And I'm like- It's a lion crawl. Yeah, lion crawl, whatever. Sorry to go on that tangent. But then now Billy, I think, is so grotesquely, cartoonishly a TV exec, evil businessman guy. Yeah. And I kind of think that it works-

it finally worked it's working more and more this is an emmy winning performance yes he is playing network exec or head of this company if it were patrick bateman yes and that is really perfect but in this episode he fully sort of like starts to break down gretta lee is popping off so basically anyway what you need to know is that billy crude up aka patrick bateman psycho network exec

is in love with Bradley Jackson and he allowed them to delete this footage. So he said, I don't ever want to fucking talk about this again. Somehow, Julianna Margulies gets to typing and she finds out the whole thing that Bradley has done this. The way she finds out, I think, is actually...

Well done. Because it calls back to the leak from earlier in the season. Yes. Like, it's actually all sequenced perfectly. Like, she finds out in an organic way that I think, you know what they did? Well, they did interface, they did, like, person using technology

Yeah. Oh, this is what you've been looking for. Like her searching through the texts and the emails between Bradley and Corey to her finding out that Hal was at the insurrection. I'm like, and that was actually well done. I was like, that was actually really well done. It was very well done. The discovery. And I know what you're saying. So Bowen has famously been like, I don't like the way interaction with social media, texting, Instagram,

It's not reflected correctly in media. This you're saying was maybe the first time...

in television history you've seen someone interact with first of all the iMessage app on a macbook which everyone is doing everyone is texting on computers it's actually real culture number 14 everyone is texting on computers I mean and then Juliana and Reese have this scene where Reese comes home to Juliana they are lesbian lovers

And Juliana basically puts it to her like, I can no longer respect you. I don't love you anymore. How do you sit in that chair? How do you sit in that chair? And Reese has this moment where she goes to hug Juliana Margulies and Juliana goes, stay away from me. And Reese goes, okay. And then she realizes that Juliana is right. And she calms herself down with a second. Okay. And it sounds like this. Okay.

I got mad. And I was just like, this is so present and dropped in. And Juliana looks at Reese and mind you, these characters have had, they've been together on the show, but they've had almost no chemistry. Juliana goes, I thought we'd grow old together.

And I believed that lie. I believed it 100%. There was no question in my mind I was watching the downfall of television's greatest couple. I don't even know what to say. 1000%. Television's greatest couple that did not seem at all believable until its final moment. You don't know what you got till it's gone. Period. Joni Mitchell was right. And to speak of our Joni Mitchell, they are never ever getting back together. Oh, girl.

Oh my God. And so that was just one scene of so many. Oh, then really spoiler alert for 309. And I can't tell you like if you're going to get into it, you got to get into it because the finale is out now. I am so excited for whatever this is going to be because I heard it's so crazy. And honestly, what were the words that were said to you? I heard craziest moment in television history. Are you serious? Well,

Okay, so I mean, it will not be the case, but I did hear that it's the craziest thing the show has ever done, which I also heard.

on the ground in BravoCon Yes. Oh my God. About whatever happens at the end of Salt Lake City Housewives. Right. And you had alluded to this over text and I'm really curious. We can't really discuss it on this show. I don't know because literally so someone goes someone at BravoCon it was which I'll get into because it was truly like

More Disney World than Disney World, to be honest with you. I was only there for two hours and most of it I was working, but I was looking around and I was like, God, I need to come back here and just walk around. I didn't get the chance to, but they did an amazing job. Like if you love Bravo walking around and just seeing like the museums of props from like everything that they've done, but on the ground, like people were talking about

They're like, do you know what happens at the end of Salt Lake? Do you know what happens at the end of Salt Lake? So this was like scuttlebutt.

at the con. It has to do with whatever phone call it is that Heather gets. Right. And I think I can surmise that it has to do with Monica. Monica Garcia. Monica Garcia, the legend. Something about the mom. I don't know if it's the mom. I don't know if it has to do with Jen Shah, but it's something that affects all of them in a way that it's like- Makes Heather go, are you serious? She goes, how could she do this to us?

Go, go, go, go. No, guys, guys, guys, guys. But apparently it's that insane. But just to loop it back, Bradley Jackson resigns from the UBA evening news and she breaks down while she's resigning on television and no one knows why she's doing it. And I said, you better propel us into the finale. Meanwhile, Jon Hamm is obviously the most evil person in the world. Jennifer Aniston is what? Digmatized.

We are seeing dickmatization like we've never seen it on screen before. I don't think I've seen dickmatization since Adam and Hannah on Girls. We need to at some point perform the scene, which is Bradley Jackson telling Alex Levy that she's concerned about whether or not she can be objective.

about Jon Hamm because Jennifer Aniston's like, well, basically, okay, so again, this is the craziest shit that's ever gone on. Jon Hamm, who's just bought UBA, wants to now sell the company and he's like basically taking Alex as his like partner and starting a new network.

So he goes, bring whoever you want. Bring Bradley. So she goes, you have to come with me to this new company. And Bradley Jackson's energy is basically like, okay, for sure, yeah. But are you sure you trust this guy? I heard he's bad news. He's evil, Alex. And then Jennifer Aniston does her whole thing. Oh, okay.

oh wow oh okay oh so you oh I see now you're you're unbelievable and Bradley's like Alex like what like what are you doing like why are you being like this like can you trust him are you stigmatized and they have this whole like sort of low stakes but high stakes like fight it's it was amazing it's Alba yes oh my god and we are literally about to see one of them hello

- Do you think it's, I think it's Bradley. Bradley's the one who's losing it all. Bradley is Elphaba in this situation. - But there was actually a compelling moment. Like if you think about like this character, you know what they did? The third graders really grew up and went to college. I'm telling you because they said at the beginning of the year, what is the central tenant of these characters and how can we challenge them?

And Bradley Jackson's central tenet is, I am first and foremost a journalist. I am a truth teller. And for her to be confronted with the fact that when she was put in a position... Is that what Kelly Clarkson calls her? Yes. Kelly Clarkson called Bradley Jackson a truth teller. Because remember, Kelly Clarkson's also a character on The Morning Show as herself. In this timeline, Kelly Clarkson is...

a Kelly Clarkson level artist. Yeah. And I think that we're to believe that if someone like Kelly Clarkson were to find out that Bradley Jackson had betrayed her values this much, she'd be like, really? Yeah.

Wait, I loved her. She'd be like, wait, y'all, I thought that she was one of those truth tellers, y'all. It was wild because I was like, wow, they're actually testing both of these protagonists in a way that is in line with who they are. And this show ended up, the way that everything they set up ended up really playing. It works. It actually really plays. It plays.

And you're saying Alex's thing is that, like, from the beginning, like, episode one, Bradley Jackson's thing is, I'm a truth teller, I'm a journalist. Yes. Episode one, like, what do we think Alex's thing is? Well, I think Alex has represented someone that has, like, been so entrenched in problematic media and structures. And men. Yes. And not really...

handling the boundaries of those things well. She's been protected by structures. But she's also violated every single appropriate quote-unquote thing where she fucks Mitch, she is fucking Jon Hamm now.

Yeah, okay. I think what we're seeing with Alex is like, we're seeing a narcissist like truly be confronted with the fact that you can't just have everything you want. And it is possible for you to actually get got by someone like this because like the Jon Hamm and Jennifer Addison thing, Jon Hamm, by the way, is playing the most triggering man on television. He's such a blatant egomaniac narcissist.

And to watch her get dicked so good. And remember, she laid on top of his butt. They were pussy to butt, which is intimate. Cat on tortoise. Cat tortoise. And so now we're seeing really the ramifications of that. When you put your pussy on a man's butt, you are mated for life. Avatar. Yes.

And I think that even with Corey, my note with Corey as a character was like, you never see this man lose. No. This man needs to take one L. And then finally, the crow is roosting. What's the saying? I think the chickens have come back to roost. The chickens saying thank you. But I love thinking about what the crow would do if she were to roost. The crow can roost. Can I say, I was in Vegas and I was having an outdoor brunch and

There was this one crow a-crowing. There was a crow in Vegas? I can't even explain. That's a horror movie. I can't even explain how loud and disgusting this crow was being. Vile bird. And I'm trying to sit there and have some hair of the dog. Girl. Which everyone needs in Vegas. Yes. Desperado. Oh, Manicalo. Oh, Manicalo. Oh, Manicalo.

Bo, listen, vacation is something you got to get right. You can't roll the dice. You have to make sure that it's all together. Everything is where it's supposed to be when you get where you're going on vacation. Can you agree? I have never agreed with you more. And I've

had so many wonderful trips with you in the past. Bowen, I remember one of our favorite trips to Toronto when we shared that Airbnb. Remember that? Airbnb came in the clutch. We were doing our I Don't Think So Honey live in Toronto. We stayed in that amazing Airbnb. We loved it. We had the time of our life. Thanks, Airbnb, still to this day. I remember that Airbnb like it was my own childhood home. Thank you, Airbnb.

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gotten an std from him that's so funny that he has like out magic mike's magic mike magic mike was found so dead because let me tell you something magic mike needs like all the hottest men in the world on stage or but they're all like sorry to say i mean they're all talented wonderful beautiful men they're all like just guys yeah they're they're like guys who are like vegas hot you know what i mean it's like they have like let's call it like uh

Men's health cover body. Yeah. Looking all the same in the face. What I'll say about Usher is he is really the only male object of desire on stage. Yeah. He looks...

Great. He sounds unbelievable. His performance is amazing. At one point, he comes out on roller skates. Wow. And does like four numbers in a row. Skates. Skates. And thank you for making that distinction because we all know that blades are much easier. Definitely. He's on roller skates on the stage. It was so insane. Then all of his backup dancers were like doing choreo on roller skates. But what I really want to say

is the exotic dancers that he has in the show. The female performers. I saw a pole dancer on your story. She was mesmerizing. Let me tell you something. It was Olympic what these women were doing. They are mesmers.

Mesmer. Mesmer is a great word to say. Mesmer. I was mesmerized. Yes. By the mesmers. Yes. That's actually real culture number 90. I was mesmerized by the mesmers at Usher's Vegas residency. Think about this. Usher has seen a whole generation of people mature into their sexual adulthoods. Yeah. And now the crow has come to roost. The crow was roosting

Well, now it's like we're all these grown ass people now who like were horny for Usher when we were in middle school. Yes. And he still looks incredible. And now we're all like, I'm going to pay top dollar to see this man. Yes. Gyrate and sing and croon, whatever, and have his little dancers running around. And I'm getting off it.

It was get off culture for sure. There was really two highlights. One was at one point, Usher comes out into the audience and he's doing the thing where he's improvising singing and basically to the beat and he would see people in the crowd and he'd be like, girl, you got them titties. You got them big titties. And then he goes,

and does like the, I'm a suck your titties noise. And I'm like, so we are in an era right now where we are not even pretending that the end game isn't Usher sucks my titties. No one cares. No. I mean, no one takes issue with that. No, every single person that was there was like, what I hope happens is Usher from the stage goes, I see you up there in the pink dress with them titties. I'm going to suck them.

And everyone's screaming in approval. And we are so lit. And by the way, all the bops. I'm so caught up. Caught up. Does he do Climax? Yes. He did everything. But I would say the highlight, and we've talked about it on the show. Burn. Oh my God. Burn is an important song. Burn. Does he do You Got It Bad? Babe, imagine he did not.

every single song you'd want to hear. And you say that you want it. And you really know it. At least don't matter. Don't matter no more. You ignore my key all the time. I think I'm in your key. No, you fully blasted past my key. We need to talk. I'm not happy. What key did you just do? Because I'm a little hoarse today and this morning at 10 a.m., 9.42 a.m. This is what I said, I think. This is what I did.

When you say that you want it and you really know everything used to matter don't matter no more. But you went up. Okay, so can I just be real? Sometimes I'm off. No, it's not that you're off. You were doing what you needed to do there for your voice. Thank you. I just sometimes feel like I can't help but sing in the original key. Girl.

You better... It's so good. Wait, but Burn was so... Burn is an incredible song. And then when Yeah started... I mean... I think everybody fucked. True or false? I'm ready for this one. Every middle school dance...

That was the song that everyone was waiting for. I was at home burning CDs where all 10 tracks were, yeah, by Usher, Ying Ying Twins, Ludacris. And I was like, I need to get off books so that I can amaze everyone in the gymnasium. And did you? I know you did. No.

I feel like... Because I didn't amaze anybody because we all knew the words. We all knew every single word. You know, it would be powerful to go back in time in the DeLorean that we talked about in last week's episode. And I would love to go back in time and see you just running train on girls in middle school. To, yeah, like you and girls grinding at a middle school dance to usher. Yeah, I would love that. I was grinding down. Grinding culture. I was...

so good at grinding. I was dropping it to the floor. Holy shit. I was like really like throwing my ass onto linoleum or whatever. Oh yeah. Linoleum. That was really, I remember we would do the thing where it was like, we would have like a social thing.

like that's what they call it, like a middle school social and at Islet Middle School. And what they would do was they would split the gym. So you know how those gyms or high school gyms, like they would have the ability to like make it so that it was like two rooms. - It had a flex wall. - A flex wall, thank you for that.

And one side would be sports. So like people playing knockout and basketball. And the other side would be some of the horniest 14 year olds in the 12 year olds in the country rubbing genitals on each other during a dance craze known as grinding. And the songs would be like literally little John screaming about like, you know, like, fuck now.

I mean, all this culture, like we all, of course, we all remember the Crunk and Bee craze. Remember when Ciara was the princess of Crunk and Bee? Crunk and Bee. Ciara, really? What do we think? I'm so happy. What do we think? What do we think about Ciara? First of all, what you're saying, Ciara.

- Ciara. - Ciara. - I'm sorry. - The princess is here. - The princess is here. Ciara. - Bring that back. - First of all, what do I think? I think great talent. - Great talent. - Great talent. I mean, like, also she's got bops to, which one do I love? - Love a lot. ♪ Oh, oh ♪ ♪ Da na na na here through the fall ♪

That one. That one. Wait, I'm sorry. My Goodies is one of the greatest of all time. I believe it's on the Great Global Songbook. My Goodies? I think it is. I'm shocked. I think Sierra is very well represented on the Great Global Songbook. By the way, we're coming up on 400. As you said on Seth Meyers, you were fabulous. Thank you. Both Henry Melcher, producer, segment producer at Seth Meyers, and Seth himself texted me. Matt was so funny. Seth texted you? Seth texted me. Seth and I, you know, we'll text sometimes. I have to tell you,

First of all, one of the best men, one of the great men, one of the great men. And actually, is it next week or the week after? So I know the week after he's going to be on this podcast, Las Culturistas. And

And I will say the vibe immaculate. Just when you go there, it's like everyone is so happy. Their staff has all been there for a really long time and just really great. And he couldn't. He's a consummate host. Great dude. Super funny, as we all know. But like it's also like just an icon. And I use this word in a way that might feel off classy.

Classy. The classiest man. Yeah. I mean, like just whatever happened to class, whatever happened to fair breeding, good manners and pure ethics. Nice. Nice manner. Okay. I need to get back. We need to get back on Vegas. Okay. Yeah. So that Adele, Adele talked about before. The other thing I want to say about Usher, the one other thing I wanted to say is these, these dancers. Yeah. There was at one point a 20 foot high pole.

And one of these women just only with her thighs climbed all the way up to the- Two stories? It was bone. And then she dropped the Tower of Terror and caught herself on the pole. It was, I'm telling you- Where do they train for this?

Where do they practice this? Because I don't think there's a studio, a two-story tall dance studio. Maybe there is. I think this is just... I mean, first of all, never forget Hustlers. We all have a documentary on this, and it's Hustlers starring Jennifer Lopez. But my thing was, I was just like, wherever they learned it, I'm so happy they're doing it on the world stage. Oh, yeah. And I hope we see it at the Super Bowl. The sphere, I'm like, okay. If the sphere had...

a pole that led all the way up to the top. Yeah. And people could dance on it. Catch me there. Catch me there. A hundred percent. I don't know. Anytime I see a photo of the sphere of someone at the sphere, I have to stop and go, I don't know about this. Having been there a couple of times, like hearing how excited everyone is about it. Like everyone in Vegas is talking about the sphere. I was like, I got to go in there. And I did not get the chance to, because we had a packed schedule. I'm telling you, like,

First of all, I went from the airport to Usher because Delta flopped this time. Missed, I think. I didn't miss anything. I just walked in and it was like, Usher's going on, so the energy was high. Then I had BravoCon the next day and then Adele that night, so I didn't fit in the sphere. Also, I think it's U2 right now. The second that the sphere books someone that I want to see, even a little bit, I want to go. It seems insane, but just too insane. Yeah.

Yeah. I don't know. I need to be convinced. I would think that you as someone who like... What are you going to say? This isn't entirely fair, but I feel like whenever there's a new advancement in technology, you're always engaging. No, not anymore. Or is this a bridge too far? I've hit such a...

plateau with it. God, I remember Gizmodo. Anyway, I was like, yes, but now that we're in this web 3.0 shit, like I'm like, lose my number, lose my number because AI might be coming. Well, it's that it's like, God, I had a driver, lovely driver, but he was just, he was maybe the 20th person in my life to explain blockchain to me.

I haven't had that happen. I was trying to keep up. I was like, oh yeah, Ethereum. And I was like, well, what about SBF and whatever? And he was just trying to explain it to me. And he was really enthused about it. And I was happy for him. I'm out.

take me back to if Gaga does the sphere you're out yeah I don't even not even Gaga can get me to the sphere you are a total liar no you're like Bradley Jackson I want to start an Amish community that is 2014 technology only I've never met anyone less met what I've never I've never met anyone who would do worse in an Amish community than you I

I'm saying it's not an Amish community. It's a community that has technology that only goes up to 2014. Okay. So what, what is that like? What's in 2014? What was the iPhone six? We all still kind of like had our iPods around. Yeah. Yeah.

It wasn't like a relic. Right, right, right. Oh my God. Anyway, quickly, we've talked about Adele in Vegas before. Talk about Adele. Adele was a fabulous. She goes, I'm so sick. I'm sorry. She then gave the most flawless vocal performance I've ever heard. She was like, my chest is on fire. And if I even speak...

I'm gonna die but I'm emotional I'm so emotional it's emotional for me because I want to do the last show but I've got a shit voice tonight and she's going off about how sick she is she goes I'm gonna be turning the mic around so y'all have to sing for me almost the whole show I'm like yeah right she turns out the most stunning vocal maybe even better than last time wow um

It was amazing. And then the BravoCon of it all. I've never been so starstruck. It must have been like everywhere you turned, it was like, oh my God, you, you, you. It was truly surreal. Like, I think I was more nervous at BravoCon than I was when we've been to like the Emmys and the Critics' Choice Awards. Like, because turning around and seeing like Kristen Stewart

Is one thing. Turning around and seeing like... Dolores. Dorit. I went up to Dorit. I had to. Oh my God. Tell me. I was with Riri Chaney. First she goes... Because Garcelle comes in. Garcelle was giving... Well, I was too scared. Garcelle was giving top dog energy.

Like came in, went to a corner and was like surrounded by people. Her son Oliver was there and she had like a whole thing and she was sitting down talking to someone. And I was like, I am not going to interrupt her. Even though we've met a couple of times, she's been on this podcast.

Like, I had a whole in with her because I was there with Riri who was in, I can't say what show, but Garcelle was in a show with Riri. And I had a whole opening where I was like, this is Riri, like, da, da, da. And Riri was like, can we please go over and say hi to Garcelle? And I was like, I have to tell you something. I'm actually too intimidated. So now you understand my timidness around the housewives. Yes. Like, I've always been too scared to go up to Meredith, even though we've been in the same space several times.

I saw Whitney at Schucht. She walked past me. I was too scared. I was with Sudie. She was like, say hi to her. I was like, no way.

even though it's Whitney. Whitney Rosa Schucht would have been the only vibe for me. Rinna said hi to me at Sweeney Todd. Yes. She initiated it, and then it was a lovely interaction, and I actually stan Lisa Rinna. No, I mean, you have to stan Lisa Rinna. Since Veronica Mars, I have stan Lisa Rinna. I'm on record as a Lisa Rinna stan, but it was really surreal because, like, you're walking around, and, like, you're seeing all these, like,

characters that are also soap characters but it's like because they are real they're walking around doing it so it's like being at Disney World and watching Mickey come in but Mickey never takes off the hood you know what I'm saying it's not just Mickey it's it's goofy Donald Pluto it was Daisy yes all of them it's everybody walking around being like hey people I was too scared to go up to Garcelle Alexia and Marisol

Could not do it. Wow. Giselle Bryant did come in the room and I turned to Rhea and I said, we have to go. I was like, I can't. What are you afraid of? What is she going to do? Fucking...

be inappropriate and like abuse, traumatize her children in front of you. No fucking loser. No. Okay. Bowen is Bowen's thing with Giselle. Am I wrong or am I wrong? Her thing? Everyone's like, Giselle is so funny. Why do you hate her? She's never told a joke in her life. She's never said a funny thing. She's just drawn out her words and,

And then ends up with a little flourish. I'm going to push back on you about this. I think one of the positive things about Giselle is I think that at least she gives punch to... I kind of like her cadence. Karen can give you punch and says the funniest shit you've ever heard. I mean, we are, of course, Team Karen. But I would say that... So we'll get into Potomac, but...

I just wanted to wrap it up by saying I met like Lisa Barlow, who was a legend. Yes. Whitney, I loved hanging out with. Your picture with Lisa was huge. I saw John Barlow, who's 6'9", and way hot in person. Justin Rose was handsome in person, which I don't think comes across in the show. Yes, I saw Justin as well. Very handsome. Oh, I saw Jackie Goldschneider. It's always great to see her. Yes.

Jackie's lovely in person. Love Jackie. She's adorable. I saw Melissa Gorga and Rachel Fuda and their husbands. They were going off in the casino. I saw them right after Adele, actually. Your old friend. My pals. My favorite person that I met, Shannon Stubbs Bedore.

Huge fan of I Love That For You. She came up and was so nice. She was like, I just want to say I'm such a huge fan of I Love That For You. You know, I used to sell stuff on QVC and I was like, you know, you're one of Molly's favorites. She goes, I run into her every now and then and I'm always so starstruck when I see her. I was like, well, she is starstruck around you, Shannon Snorms-Badour.

And Shannon goes, I just like love how much you're on Watch What Happens Live. And I just think I'm such a fan. And she was so nice. And I felt so bad because the last time I was on Watch What Happens Live. You called her mentally unwell. No, I said, I didn't say mentally unwell. I said, Shannon is not well.

I'm sorry. I take it. And I looked at her and I said, you look amazing. Right. And she goes, well, it's the DUI diet. Ooh. And I went cross-eyed and I was like, I'm so happy you seem to be doing better. She goes, I am doing a lot better. So this is the thing. It's like, this is the air these women breathe, which is people knowing about the darkest details of their personal lives. Yeah. And so I,

I couldn't help but wonder, like, does Shannon Storms Bedore, is she, like, used to this by now? Like, used to people being like, how are you doing? I think it's been long enough that she understands...

They all get that it's a good, bad, and ugly moment. Sure. And when she sees you on TV going, she's unwell, I imagine that she kind of, she sees that and she nods and goes, yeah. Yeah, I think she probably was watching that season and was clearly, she was not well. Right. But now it's like she's doing so much better. And I was like, you're so lovely. And she goes, I really am nice. And I was like,

I adore you. Tamara was a lot of fun. She was really being Tamara. Okay. I was like, you are a 10 out of 10. And then I did the Roni panel and it was so much fun. All those women are great. I didn't even need to be won over by them, but... Sai won you over? I liked her a lot. Okay. And I also get the sense that they all like...

each other a lot. Like the vibes were really good and I was really happy to not moderate a panel that had like an actual, a lot of drama. Yeah. Because almost every other panel was like,

like Robin Dixon got booed. She got booed and that was like about, and can I say something about the booing? Let's not. I don't think we need to boo. And like, have you ever booed? It's not that deep. Have you ever booed in your life? Never. Never. It's actually such a low classless fucking thing. Cause here's the deal. Like even Robin, who I've had fun dragging on the show. Oh, hater. Hater guy. Yeah.

I don't hate her. I would never boo Giselle. Here's the thing. It's like, I take major issue with the way that they've treated Wendy and Candace and just the way that they are on the show. But even if I were to turn around and see Robin Dixon, I wouldn't want her to think like, oh, that's Matt Rogers who quote unquote hates me. It's like, I watched the show. They get it. When we'll get into Potomac, because there's a lot to say, but like, it was very clear to me, A, how positive the BravoCon atmosphere was. Oh, that's nice. It was really like,

These people were so excited to see all these women and the other Bravo people, but it didn't feel like a bad vibe, which I think sometimes online, the social media around the show and the horror feel like bad vibes. And I don't want to contribute to bad vibes anymore, especially after having been around them. Cause it really was a positive atmosphere. So I'll continue to have fun dragging them in fun ways, but like,

My thing going forward is I'm just going to check myself when it feels like I'm being a little too much. Oh, that's nice. That being said, that's interesting because I feel like some dispatches from the ground where that like the vibe is a little like wrestling. It's a little bit like WWE, like for sure. I'm stepping out like arms raised like, oh, you know, like that kind of thing. It gives that a little bit, which is no knock on wrestling culture, but like,

That feels weird. It makes sense that in a live extemporaneous setting that that happens, but it is like a little bizarre.

It was people reacting, people responding to what basically is a reunion on stage with an audience. That is a little disorienting. And that's why I'm really happy I had a cast that was all liking each other. Gentle Lions wasn't there, which was unfortunate. But I will say...

Having been there on stage, and I know they really want her to come back, and I hope she comes back too. She is not essential to the success of that show. No. Not essential. Anyone being like, oh, Jenna Lyons is the show. I think she's a great part of the show, but you don't need...

her for the show. I think a diet Prada or something did like a whole feature on her, like how she like changed reality TV. And I'm like, I want to be like, Oh, certainly not. No, she didn't. No, no. Like stop talking about her. Like where, where was this about Tiffany Pollard? Thank you. By the way, we should just say,

I guess Tiffany Pollard got voted out of the House of Villains. Has been evicted. She's been evicted from the House of Villains, but not before calling into Omarosa. Manny Galt, Newman, Stallworth, whatever. We can't really repeat what she said, but just go online and see. And I sleep better knowing that you're not in the White House. I just want to say that you are a sucking, guzzling Republican c**t.

And I sleep better at night knowing that you are not in the White House. I mean... And please bleep out that whole thing. It's Omarosa. It's like, this woman has to be able to receive this kind of poison. And I think she did. She was just like, and you see? Like,

Ladies and gentlemen, this is why we're evicting. And I was just like, wow. Wow. Thank God that show, which I haven't watched, I have to, capitalized on having both of them there. I know. I mean, that is like, yeah. I mean, what a major moment to have Omarosa and New York in the same space. I fell off Survivor, but people at work were talking about this. Me too.

But I hear the characters are really like coming into their own, but it is still, I think the theme this season was dweebs. Dweebs on a beach. Dweebs on a beach. Yeah. They're such dweebs. I will say a lot of people have been reaching out to say, hey, actually, we thought the season wasn't going to give and it did end up. It's now like, it's crystallized. I hear it's crystallizing and it's giving. Yeah.

someone at work is saying that this is her first season and she loves it. And she goes, it's really interesting. And she's like, now that she's caught up, she's like going back and dipping into, I gave her your syllabus, but she goes, it's really interesting to watch this season knowing that these are all dweebs and that they're not playing. None of them are playing the game well because now like I'm seeing what not to do first. Yeah. And then she was like,

I made the mistake of going back to watch Heroes and Villains, and it's a little over my head because I'm like, they're all... It's BravoCon. The gameplay is too sophisticated on Heroes and Villains, and I'm missing the nuance. And I think it's interesting that she is watching this season first, watching people who are actively bad at this. Yeah. Whenever I'm suggesting people watch the show, I try to start them in a place where either...

there's a good mix of gameplay. Like you have people that are bad and people that are really good, which is why I would never say watch an all-star season first, because like I'm saying, heroes versus villains. If that's your first survivor season, that's like going to Bravo con and having never seen a housewives. It's just a bunch of characters. Like,

being at 10, then all of a sudden there's so much crazy gameplay going on and you just wouldn't get why it's cool that Parvati whips out two immunity idols and saves people if you didn't know. But yeah, I mean, I'll get into it. Maybe even today on the plane, I'll watch Survivor. But they're 90 minutes episodes? Yeah. That's too long. I'm out. That's what got me off of... I had a brief...

thing with the Bachelor, Bachelorette years ago. And now with Golden Bachelor, they're just like, I think most of them are like an hour. Yeah. But there was that time in Bachelor Nation where it was like two hour episodes and I was like, how do you all do this? I watched the Rachel Lindsay season, which by the way, Rachel was at. Oh, yeah, she was there. She was there. She was doing the Potomac panel. And I was like, that is not a position I would ever want to be in.

Because the vibes are always just so tense around that cast. What did you think of the first episode? I thought there was too much Robin. And I texted you and our friends. I was like, we're in for a frustrating season if we're going to focus. And it seems like from the trailer, we are focused on Robin a lot of it.

And like, I'm not even necessarily excited for whatever moment she like breaks down in that van and she goes, do you know what I'm talking about? But she goes, fuck all y'all. I didn't do nothing to you guys. I didn't do nothing to you guys. Why am I the villain? Sobbing on the street. I just think this is a woman who for years has like no actual sense of herself. And it's really tough to watch. Like she doesn't know who she is.

And like watching this episode is really tough, especially at the end where she talks to Giselle and Ashley and Therese. And her whole thing is like apathy is literally, I don't care. Like care. She drops a full octave mid syllable in her tagline this season. Yeah. The taglines this season, really rough except for Candace's.

The rest of them don't make any sense. Especially Karen's. I'm sorry. We love Karen in this house. But Robin's, she's fully referencing a Lizzo lyric from six years ago. And then I realized, and I told you and Joel this, I was like, I used to love all of these women. And now I can't stand two-thirds of them. Because it's early, I am not already like, ugh. I get where you're at. But my thing is like,

I actually, in that last long scene where Giselle, Cherise and Ashley are confronting Robin about like whether or not she's okay and the want of it all, et cetera. I actually felt I was team Robin in that scene because I was just like, she's telling you what her truth is, which is that if her husband has cheated on her, she doesn't care. She wants it to work. So that's the reality that you have to accept is,

And Giselle kept pushing it to the point where Robin was like, what are you going to do? Giselle like filed for divorce. Is that what you want? She goes, no, I want you to be happy. I'm like, yeah, you think she'd be happier if she wasn't with him. Right, right, right. So what are you saying? You want this, her marriage to be over.

And she's like, I'm checking in with you. I'm checking in with you. I'm like, not really. I mean, like you're saying like, it's a fuck one moment. Like one is the reason you're unhappy. That, that, that, that, that. And I kind of got Robin in that scene because it's like, this woman is exhausted. She's getting played by him. Or if she's not, then it's too exhausting to explain. And when she said that her joy had been stolen, that was a bummer for me. I was like, uh,

I'm still in the position of I'm trying yet again at the top of the season to go in with an open mind and we'll see if they fuck it up. I'm just watching for Wendy and Candice and Karen. And I'm curious about NECA. I'm already allergic to NECA because I don't like this. She said that Wendy's mother does voodoo. I mean, but that's like that is a big, I just can admire a big swing like that when you're coming in fresh. Yeah.

The trailer being like, Wendy being like, my mother worships our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. And then NECA goes, during the day, at night, she brings the voodoo doll out. She says something like, you know, like, it was, I'm excited for, I guess, that, but I'm not going to be pro-NECA because don't come for Wendy. It's don't come for Wendy. But I, with the Robin of it all,

Her saying that her joy had been stolen is a bummer, but she's still misattributing it to the discourse around the marriage and not Juan. I think that's what Giselle was taking issue with. I agree that Giselle was pushing in a way that is, like Giselle, inappropriate. I have had it with inappropriate people. In general, in all sectors. You know what I'm talking about. Some people...

Especially, there's one person online who has become the poster person for inappropriateness.

Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. Bleep that, bleep that. Bleep that, please. But yeah, I mean, it's all too fucking much. It's all too fucking much. It's certainly gone too far. Okay, so when I watched this premiere and I compared it to the Miami, we were cheering, hooping, hollering. You literally said when we were watching the Miami premiere, a triumph. And this is my thing. Like, I need to feel something powerful when it comes to a housewife's

franchise now. Salt Lake is delivering that. Miami is delivering that. Beverly Hills is yet to. But I have hope. It'll happen. It'll happen. I'm sure Potomac will. But like Miami, I was so happy to see all of these women. I was overjoyed. We cheered when Adriana came on. Yes, we did. We cheered when Marisol came on.

I'm so happy to hear that Gertie is cancer-free as of BravoCon. Amazing news. Like, the vibes are good. The vibes are frivolous. I mean, it is... That is melodrama. Gertie...

sweeping in front of Larsa in this premiere going, I'm going to need you. I'm going to need you. It's like, be there for me. Be there for me. I'm like, I'm going to need you. This is amazing. I was like, this, because it's so truthful and yet it's so big. Celestium was saying this about Miami. Either Celeste or Sarah Sherman, they go, the women on Miami are,

dress sexy just for themselves. Yeah. That's a really good way of putting it. You know what I mean? It's not even like Atlanta or Potomac or Beverly Hills. Well, no, Beverly Hills maybe.

Beverly Hills, it's not about sexy. It's about glamour. It's about glamour and labels. Yeah, it's about stunting. Miami, it's like, because it's Miami culture. They just want to look hot. There's a lot of personal style. Yes. That's something I think is really fun. Personal and functional. Like they're in a hot city. You know what I mean? I did go up to Lisa Hoxton and I said, Lisa, I love you. She literally turns over her shoulder and goes, thanks. Ah!

I love that she paid me a sword of dust. It was great. I loved it. Wow. She was too busy face-tuning herself. She was talking to Jodi. Oh, Jodi was there. The most shoulderless man in the universe? He has no shoulders, but he has a lot of heart.

Oh, I'm so happy for them both. He seems like a great guy. I'm just saying, the silhouette is jarring at first, and I'm still thinking about it, but he seems lovely. I bet he's swinging a dick. Oh, yeah. Yeah, for sure. Swinging, slinging. Swinging, slinging, all those things. ♪

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Toyota, let's go places. My girl has a flight to catch. I got a flight to catch. So I'm wondering, is there anything that we really need to discuss? The album's out.

Well, thank you for saying that. My album is out. Thank you all for streaming it. One of my songs is doing really well. Three of your songs are doing really well. A few of them are doing really well, but one of them got put on a special Christmas playlist, a couple of them, and they made me the face of the playlist. But my song called I Don't Need It To Be Christmas At All, which was the one that we put on the album as the last track just because it was more earnest in general and we just wanted to have fun with it.

It's doing great, but I'm so happy with the way everyone's been receiving the album. Phenomenal. You sound so good. The production. Bravo. Featuring Bo and Yang. People love that track. I think, and I'm using the mic that I use to record that. Don't do this. I was eating up my bowels towards the end. Everyone's thrilled with your performance. I'm listening to it. I go, you can't hear the last syllable I say in every line. And that's my fault. It's not your fault.

And it's also not true. Well, I'll have a chance to... And don't be looking... Don't be telling me that you don't think things sound correct on my album. Well, I'm talking about just me. No. Because you were a part of my album. You were a featured artist on my album. I'm saying to you... If we win Album of the Year, you win a Grammy too. Is that true? No, I don't think so. I'm saying to you that I...

that there will be a chance for me to redeem myself. Girl, maybe down the road. Live performance? Live performance! Yeah, thank you everyone. And I will say, I'm at Vulture Fest this weekend on Saturday. I'm going to be in London the 13th to the 18th and then the tour tickets are still on sale. On sale. It's getting to the point where my brain is a little soupy soupy. You need to just put on...

put on an episode of... What did you say you're going to watch on the plane? I guess Survivor. Survivor. You know what I wish you could watch on a plane is Naked Attraction. Oh, that would be so great. I finally started watching like...

Random episode. I haven't thought about that in such a long time. I know. It's a fun show. I think it's making its way stateside in a big way. I think people are really like, like everyone at work is like, Nick Attraction, Nick Attraction. I'm like, oh, it's like really in the air. Who's hosting this week? Chalamet. Yes. Yeah. How are vibes so far? Great. Yeah. Has he come through before? Yeah, he has. Yeah. He had a great show and we're excited. He seems like he would do a good job. Oh, yeah. Solid host. Yeah.

Celeste put on the clip we were in the office of Timothy and Saoirse and little women like Timothy confessing his love to Joe oh that's such a good scene and I was like damn I don't pay attention to this scene but they're both so I miss Saoirse she's coming back but I feel like she's been gone for a minute wait isn't there a Saoirse movie that's like coming out

She has been taking a little bit of a break away, but then again, the industry is the industry. Shut down, honey. But wow, that seems amazing. Timothy, I'm like, oh yeah, like he's a damn star. Yeah, he's a damn star.

For sure. I think we can say that's a rule of culture. Number eight, Timothee Chalamet is a damn star. In that movie especially, but in his general aesthetic, he is the most gorgeous lesbian you've ever seen. Yeah, beautiful lesbian. Especially in that little women scene, the puffy sleeves, that vest. I'm like, this is so beautiful. He's slender like Jodie. He's slender like, no, but Timothee has shoulders. Jodie is the letter I. What's the hotness vibe in person with Chalamet?

Can I be honest? Like, and this is purely personal. Yeah. Not my thing. Not my thing either. But I celebrate. But like Venus is a boy. Fucking Caravaggio. Man. I'm sorry. Boy. Caravaggio boy. Caravaggio boy. Title of app. Title of app. Timothy. You'll never guess. Caravaggio boy might be one of our best titles. Okay. Let me show you. I'm going to Google image search.

Like he's this. He's the boy with the basket of fruit. You know what I mean? If you Google the words... Boy with the basket of fruit Caravaggio, you're going to find Timothee Chalamet. Caravaggio boy is Timothee Chalamet boy with the basket of fruit vibes. He should play him in the film. He should. Girl with a pearl earring. Boy with the basket of fruit. Let's write it.

We, I don't think, would do a good job writing that. I think actually we would. Girl, oh, I just realized my I don't think so, honey. And I think it might be a retreat, but I have to say this again. Should we go right into it? Yeah. Okay, or do you not have one this week? I kind of have one. It's a little petty, but yeah. It's a little petty? Well, yeah. I think I know what you're about to do. Well, this is I don't think so, honey. And, um...

It's really a moment, which by the way, Jennifer Hudson didn't really do one. But you guys did a joint. I don't think so. We did a joint. I don't think so, honey. That was majorly. And you're right. Maybe it's time to just call it.

Can I quickly tell my story about meeting Jennifer Hudson? So, cause I went to go say hi to you and your makeup chair. She hadn't gotten there yet. So I go in and I meet her and I'm of course gushing over her. And you know, I even went up to her and I sang, well, I don't like, and she goes, and I was like, I'm so happy you did it back.

But um, we did this I don't think so honey in my I don't think so honey was I don't think so many people saying it's too early for Christmas like Christmas is here It started up to that so that's where he says it's done She turns to me and she goes you have a Christmas album and I said yes, and she goes that's amazing She goes I want to do a Christmas album. I was like you have to oh my god And then she said yeah, but I have a problem. I was like what she goes I

I don't know if it's going to be red and green Christmas or white Christmas. And I said, that is actually so important. I said, what do you mean? She goes, well, if it's red and green Christmas, you have to sing certain types of songs. Wow. And if it's a white Christmas, well, that's when you have to sing silent night. And I was like,

"You think that there's a difference?" She goes, "Oh yeah." Then she goes, "And there's also many other different kinds of Christmas." And I said, "Did you see Carrie Underwood's Christmas special?" She said, "No." I said, "Well, she wore a blue dress." And Jennifer Hudson said, "That's what I'm saying."

So I was like, I don't know if this is like a synesthesia or something where she's associating colors with certain songs, but she was like, I don't know if it's going to be red and green Christmas or white Christmas. It's not, maybe it's not full synesthesia, but the fact that this person, this amazing musician vocalist is thinking in terms of color is,

It's so beautiful to me. And then I was like, are you going to do a holy night? She goes, I mean, I guess I have to do a holy night. That's not bread and cream. That's white Christmas. And so she goes, well, you know, not enough people do silent night. And I was like, you think so? That's not true. I was like, I don't know. She goes, look it up. No one does silent night. I was like, well, you have to do silent night. And I said to her, I was like, you should just not do a holy night because everyone expects it from you. She goes, okay.

And then she's leaving and she goes, white Christmas. It was perfect. This could not have gone any better. It was amazing. She was so nice. And then she goes, during the, I don't think so, honey. I'm going to have to try to keep up with you, but I don't know if I can because you're fierce. She called you fierce? And I was like, Jennifer! Louise from St. Louis called you fierce? St. Louise. You...

Oh my God, this is one of your people. Some great meetings so far of my life. I don't know how it keeps happening like this, but I also met Gayle King yesterday. Oh my God, wait. She was lovely. The vibe is immaculate on Gayle King. She came right in the dressing room. She said, you know, I thought that was very funny. And here's the part of the interview I liked the most. And she said like one part of the interview. And I was like, well, thank you, Gayle. And she was just very nice. And she did that power move too, where like,

She left the room without saying goodbye. She sort of was just like, I'm leaving you on this. And then she went away. I was like, it was nice to meet you. She goes, pleasure. Loved her. I'm not making this about me, but next time you see her. I know. I thought about this, telling her that you guys are both Swifties. Well, that we held onto each other during all too well, during all too well, 10 minute version, singing every word.

And then Ryan Reynolds turns next to... I've told this story too many times. But he said, how were you guys off book? The song's been out for less than 24 hours. How do you guys know all the words? So Gayle King was actually off book? Yes. Wow. We both sang, you who charmed my dad with self-effacing jokes. So do you think that by the transit of property, this means that Oprah is a Swifty? Perhaps. I think Oprah definitely respects...

The Oprah Taylor interview is like coming. Yeah. Where's that? That's got to be on the pipe. But unless tree pain is like, no, we're not even talking to. Oh, I mean, the Taylor's like, there's no reason for her to do Oprah. She's just not. But also she's not one of those celebrities that like doesn't do interviews. She doesn't do them that much. Like I realized Taylor was on Seth to promote. I think it was red. She released. She did Seth.

and Jimmy and SNL the same week for Rad. They said she's in the building. Well, they said she's doing the Triple Crown, Society America and the world. Wow. Listen, vacation is something you got to get right. You can't roll the dice. You have to make sure that it's all together. Everything is where it's supposed to be when you get where you're going on vacation. Can you agree? I have never agreed with you more. And I've

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All right. I have an I don't think so, honey to do. You're going to understand that I've been flying a lot, but I actually think I might have done this one before. But I actually don't care because I really need to say my truth about this and I need people's behavior to change. Okay. This is Matt Rodgers. I don't think so, honey. His time starts now. I don't think so, honey. When you watch a violent graphic scary movie on the plane.

because I have to then see it when I am diagonally behind you but diagonally I have no choice but to watch what you watch and the person in front of me was watching the latest Scream movie and I was just catching out of my eye the gore watching not for nothing but because I do think she survives but Courtney Cox gets stabbed watching people get ripped apart by truly ghost face

And I'm sitting there and now I'm in a state of anxiety in an already anxious environment. And you're on your way to New York where this film takes place. 100%. And I'm thinking, well, if I go on the subway, what's going to go down? If I go to the bodega. I'm just saying like, you have to be considerate about people that you are sitting around when it comes to the content you're watching. I would love for you guys to watch some gorgeous little rom-com I can see over your shoulder, not this. And that's one minute. I just, it really put me in a state of anxiety.

Girl, I'm so sorry. And I can't think of a more stressful scenario for you, my sister. I also was. But I'm saying you know how to distract yourself. I was trying to distract myself. And also this was another distracting thing.

I wonder if I should just say who it was, but I sat on the plane next to a person of note, an A-list star. I was excited because- Vegas to New York? Vegas to New York. I was like, "Oh, I'm going to have this seat empty for me. Yay." Then I realized the seat wasn't filled because this person wasn't going to board with everyone else. So I was already on one because we were literally sitting next to... I'm going to tell you who it was and we're going to bleep this out.

Oh, see that reaction is also why I was like, oh my gosh, because I was like, let's just say it's an eccentric. And I was like, say it's someone who we've actually dragged on this pod before. Yeah. Oscar winner. Um, but, but basically like I was like sitting next to them and well, one thing happened was I sneezed and this person of course went gazunta. Fuck. Yeah.

That's vile. And I was just like, thank you. And then we made eye contact and he registered that I knew who he was. And he goes, how are you doing? And I was like, I turned around and looked out the window and never, never looked back. Y'all. Oh, I'm not spilling it to you though.

I'm not spilling the tea. Are you ready to do your I don't think so, honey? I am. And readers, let me know if I have done that one before, but I know you feel me. All right. Bowen Yang, this is Drew. I don't think so, honey. Your time starts now. I don't think so, honey. Calling a noise complaint on my housewarming party. Girl, we were keeping it at a reasonable decibel level. The room was 20 people tops, not even 20. And it was a Saturday night. Yeah, that's...

Like, I'm sorry, I'm hearing the people upstairs with their four little kids stomping around screaming at all hours and I don't make a fucking peep. I am church mouse over here. 364 days out of the year. I'm going to throw a party once every other year, perhaps. I'm not a birthday person. This is a very singular thing.

And I don't think we as a society have to structure our lives around families and couples. It's the thing of, no, I'm not going to trade you seats on the plane so that you guys can sit together because we're

You should have just bought your tickets together. Don't bank on single people warping, distorting their lives around people with families. And that's one minute. I'm sick of it. I'm actually sick of it. Yeah. I completely understand. Do you have an idea of who it was? I don't. I ran into a couple of my neighbors in the hallway the day of. I said, just letting you know, I'm having a little get together. It's not going to be too bad. But if it is...

let me know, like knock on my door. So I gave them that up to directly come to me and be like, Hey, can you keep it down? No problem. If that happens, I go, sure. But if you're going to be a fucking tattle and call downstairs, I like the doorman is the one doorman was the one who was like, Mr. Bowen, Mr.

we've received some complaints. And I said, okay, some complaints or a complaint that is some. And I think that was his way of softening it so that it wasn't like, I don't want him to like seek out who it could have been. One, it could have been two, whatever. Got it. I'm just saying like, if it's the people upstairs, you guys like what I like to stand on, what you have is little feet. Speaking of couples, like,

And like units, I love that you are cohabitating with other people. I really love that.

I just think that I've lived next to, across from the loudest, most toxic hetero couples who get into the most insane arguments, screaming matches. I don't... I've never once been like, can you guys keep it down? Yeah, yeah, yeah. They bring their people for fucking the games on Sunday. Yep. I just turn on my white noise machine if I need to go to bed. Saturday night is...

You can't say anything. You can't. It's Saturday night is not for fucking squares like those people. Yeah, I would say go figure it out. And also like not for nothing, but like it's New York. It's called a white noise machine. It's New York. It's New York. I actually promise you my sister and readers Katie's publicist finalists.

I was being quite reasonable. I don't think that there's any dispute. I'm not like a rah-rah party guy. Listen, as someone who has lived above someone who had a problem when I simply just literally walked across my apartment...

When these people just are the kinds of people who are sensitive to it and will make a big fuss about it, this is what I'm going to say to you. Don't be surprised if it happens again. And maybe you're not cut out for this fucking city. Gotta go. Gotta go. I have a place where you can go. The swamp. The swamp. Rural town. Shrek. Yeah. Hey, Shrek. Hey, Shrek, go back to the swamp. Duloc's not for you, Shrek.

get out of Duloc such a perfect town pro Farquaad I love city people love Lithgow yeah love Lithgow he ate down in that film and I was pro the villains of Shrek were always slaying Lithgow Jennifer Saunders being fairy godmother singing holding out for a hero was Puss in Boots a villain Puss in Boots was or was he just kind of mischievous enemies to lovers yeah

Please tell your lovers and friends, which happened at Usher, that Usher, John, and Ludac, amen, did it again. Anyway, that might have been my neighbors just now hearing me go off, but I don't think it was them. They seem nice. I think it's the people upstairs who it really is like a seven person family. And I'm going, which was their choice. Don't punish me for being a single man who was able to, I'm sorry, but like, I shouldn't be punished for getting this apartment.

Ooh, you said that. And first of all, like single-handedly. If you think. I did it all alone. If you think it is them. Because there's no one below you, right? No, it's just a store. So it's definitely. And I think I'm never hearing any noise from downstairs in any apartment that I've been in. I've never heard downstairs noise. Yeah, because correct me if I'm wrong, but like the noise doesn't travel up. Wow.

I don't even know. I can't even begin to get into this. I'm more of a Caravaggio boy. I want to just be in pictures. You are a Caravaggio boy. That's not really how I look. I think it's kind of giving this. See, like this boy is doing Caravaggio. That's kind of Matt Rodgers. I thought that was Benny Drama. Oh, yeah. Benny Drama is Caravaggio boy. Happy birthday to him. Happy birthday to him. And also, wow, I can't believe I've gone this long. This is Bowen Yang's birthday week. Oh.

Oh, stop. You know me. I'm not a birthday guy. Jesus here. Someone will betray me. Welcome to it. You think so? No, I'm just kidding. Name the top three people who might betray you this year. Lorne Michaels. Angle Wodum. Jared Freider. Oh,

He's not going to betray you. He's so sick this week. What happened? I don't know. He got some sort of stomach flu. I hope not from my party. I hope not from your party either. Oh my God. Cole Escola came by and held court until like four in the morning after daylight savings. So it was 5 a.m. Oh, that's why you got a noise complaint. No, we were winding it down.

I went till five. Well, it was just me, Cole, Josh, Whitaker, and Tom Nye. It was just like the five of us just kiki and caca and laughing. Cole, I want to out them so bad for they want to post something in response to all the news that I think is actually genius, but they will never do.

Wait, maybe, no. Here's the thing, they are an ocean of secrets. They are, and I don't want to blow up their spot, but God, we were crying laughing because, and I said, Cole, this could heal the world and resolve this conflict in a real way. And they would go, no, I'm not going to do it. But if you see Cole, Cole has the answers. Cole has the answers. Cole has maybe the funniest, the only funny thing that could possibly come out of this situation is,

And even if they don't post it, follow them on social. Follow them on social. This has been an episode that was necessary, essential, and more. Thank you for your recap of BravoCon, of Seth Meyers, of your album release. Everybody enjoy the morning show finale that's out right now. Wow, so much going on. And we will stream the record. Stream the record, okay? Let's end with a song.

There was a clip of him going up to Kenya Moore in the audience. And I thought they were going to kiss. I would pay money to see that. Big money. Vegas money. May all your tits be sucked. Bye, Usher. Bye. Bye.

Hey, everybody. This is Matt, and my album, Have You Heard of Christmas?, is out now. Stream it wherever you stream things. And also, pre-order the vinyl at www.mattrodgersofficial.com, where there's tons of merch and also tickets for my tour.

I'm going to be in London, November 13th to 18th at the Soho Theater. Please come see me. And then I start in Philly on December 1st and I'm all over North America until December 23rd. All right. Thanks.

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