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All tickets are on sale Friday, September 20th at 10 a.m. at your venue of choice's local time. Now, let's get to some Lost Coach, huh? Huh? Huh? Let's do it.

- Look Matt. - Where? Oh, I see. Bowen, look over there. - Wow, is that culture? - Oh my goodness. - Las Culturistas. - Ding dong, Las Culturistas calling. - Now Bowen already popped his DC open, but I'm gonna do it now. There we go, the sound of heaven. - We can't have too many... - Intro things. - Intro things. It gets too fussy. It's too much, as we said a few seconds ago, too much housekeeping. - And you don't like fuss.

I don't like muss or fuss. Period. That's actually rule of culture number six. Bowen Yang, he don't like muss or fuss. What number is that? I thought six. Six. Wasn't it six? I think so. Great. I just want to say, girl, put your purples on. Okay.

I called Bowen about an hour ago and I'm in a panic. And I say, I really would like to wear purple for the episode. You'll find out why. He raises a shirt on FaceTime. It's of Lisa Barlow. What is it? It's Lisa Barlow saying what? It was Lisa Barlow from Salt Lake City Housewives saying, I feel for me too. It is my favorite shirt that I own. I feel for me too.

I really wanted to wear it today if it had been purple, but it didn't go with my rubric for today in my mind. I thought a great pop star had passed away or something. The look on your face was telegraphing. Like, yeah, I just thought it would be a really good episode to wear purple. And then I realized my color blindness, my affliction, my, uh,

handicap was so bad that I literally had to turn the phone around and we had to go through every shirt in my closet and I said, is this purple? Is this purple? Because I can't for the life of me tell what is the difference between blue and purple. We picked out a Lakers jersey as you can see if you're watching the video. Did you know it's even better and we didn't even talk about this? Do you want to know why this is extra iconic? Do you know whose jersey this is? I don't. Magic. Magic.

Oh my God. Johnson's. No kidding. Number 32. I should know that. A female stylist that was, okay, so shout out to Melissa Lehman. We went thrift shopping and I saw this jersey and I've never really been a jersey person, but you know, this is our big year of sports. This is our big year of sports. We went to the US Open. I gave Sinner a high five. Yannick Sinner a high five. It was so, the cameras got it. They got it. It was on broadcast.

So then I'm like, you know what? Let's get the jersey because A, I liked the way it looked. These actually are my high school colors, purple and gold. Shout out to the Buccaneers, ISAP High School. You know who you are. Buccaneers were purple and yellow? They were purple and yellow. Okay. But I liked it because it was sort of queer coded. And I do believe that Buccaneer is the gay word for pirate. For pirate. And I think that's a rule of culture that we've said. 12.

- Buccaneer is the gay word for pirate. - But now I'm gonna ask a potentially ableist question. - Well, as long as you acknowledge that it's potentially ableist up top, we know we're all learning here. - Can you appreciate purple without knowing what it is? - Yes, because can I tell you what my eye does see is so happy. - Oh yeah. - What my eye does see is so happy. - That might not syntactically work. - You know, our guest,

In the first episode of Agatha All Along, which if you're listening to this on the day of the drop of this episode is now out September 18th on Disney+. And it's so much fun. It's so good. So much fun. She says, let me get my purples. And I went, ooh, yeah. Get my purple back. Let me get my purple back. In a face-off with Aubrey, who I texted you. I was like, Aubrey fucking crushes. But here's the thing. You watch the show. Shadrach gets moaned. Yeah. It's moan worthy. You have to involuntary moan. By the way, I cannot believe that she's here. We're getting to it.

The whole cast is amazing. When Patti LuPone turns her ass around and looks at, first of all, anyone or anything, you're like, dear God. Dear God. Dear God. You just love it. It makes you think,

She has not done this. She needs to do this more. Like her on camera is so powerful in a way that like, obviously on stage, it's amazing. But like, you want to see her on screen more. You just, you just need it. Well, if you have that same feeling as Bo and Yang, you're so in luck. Cause it's not just Patty. It's our guest. It's Aubrey. It's Sasheer, our old friend. Like a hundred percent. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Really, really loving his performance. We've seen the first two. It's so good. You've seen the first two or three? I'm on three and three is when it gets fun. Because they gave us four. Three is... Which was generous. Very generous. Especially of Marvel. Famously, the lips are tight. But yeah, we have our purple on to honor Agatha. By the way, we've played this game before. You can play this game with your friends. It's the girl game. Someone just has to say, girl! And then another person has to complete the song. It can be...

Put your records on. It can be... So confusing sometimes. It can be... I can tell you've been crying but you need somebody to talk to. What are you getting now with this one? I'm just saying there's a new addition with Girls So Confusing. Yes, you're so right. That was a tange. That was a tange. And then it's spooky season, which is a great occasion for...

Agatha all along for you to watch. It's also Stooky Season. It's Stew Season. I call it Stooky Season. He loves stew. And we're in it. That's the binary. I'm soup. You're stew. That's what makes the podcast great. And what makes the podcast great today is our guest. Oh, I mean, the legend of all legends, truly one of the talents. I can't even look at her. No, it's humiliating. So here's the deal. We actually recently in Fire Island watched Step Brothers.

Where was the Oscar for Catherine Hannes? It's better than any performance that's won an Oscar. Period. I remember being in the theater in school. I bet you just screamed. I was like, who the fuck is that? Well, let me tell you something. You actually knew who it was. Because of Anchorman, because of Crossing Jordan. Because of this line. Eh, ne, eh, nga. Ha, ha, ha, ha.

How to lose a guy. Come on. I mean, now we're just back. Now we're going back. To say nothing of the iconography sense, we have to bring her in. Everyone, like, come on, please. Welcome into your ears, the limitless, Catherine Hunt! Hello!

This is majorino for us. Major laser for us. This is my absolute honor. No. Listen, no fuss, no muss with me. No fuss, no muss. We can tell you're not fussy. Did you ever see the, oh, on Zip, the...

I think it was the Mizrahi documentary where Polly Mellon goes, Fussy finished. No. Yes. But that's words to live by. Fussy finished. Fussy finished is a front runner for title of this episode. I think so. Fussy finished. Fussy finished. Yeah. Mizrahi documentary highlights. Isaac Mizrahi. Oh, have you never seen it? I've never seen it. Oh, it's worth it. Okay. Sandra Bernhardt's in it. Oh, this is back in the day. This is about 15 years ago. I feel some Sandra Bernhardt in you. Oh, yeah.

- Spiritually connected. - My God, I would love it.

I was obsessed with her. I just saw King of Comedy and I was like, who is that? How does she do it? She's so beautiful in the strangest way. She's insane. And she's the same edge that she has always. Like she doesn't give a fuck. Fuss finished. Fussy finished. Fussy finished. No, it's fuss finished. Fuss finished. Fuss finished. Fuss finished. Fuss finished. Fuss finished.

Any and all. All the above. Any and all. We fucking love the new show. It's so good. I am so psyched that you've seen any of it. Yeah, no, it's great. I am so excited for you to see the rest. Oh, yeah. I'm manifesting it building towards a little something something. And if it doesn't happen, that's fine. I wonder what that something something is. I feel like there's so much. There's a Chekhov's gun here. And I know it's with Joe Locke.

We don't know who he is. The name. We have theories. I believe, and I'm just going to say my theory. I believe that Joe Locke in the show is the son of Wanda Maximoff. She goes, you're really good at not letting it. There are a lot of theories. Okay. Always theories. A lot of theories with Marvel stuff. The fans are real passionate. I love theory television though. Me too. You know? This is something that I guess only a few actors and writers and artists know.

where it's like, you have to be on the receiving end of all this shit and you have to be like, you have to keep a straight face and like, that must be interesting. Well, what's crazy about it is that like, half of the people that have strong opinions are right on and the other half is so off base. So off. It's pretty amazing how kind of, it's either really one or the other. Yeah. But real passionate. You know, it's like, when I remember being like really young and I would go on like the lost message boards. Oh,

I was a big Lost fanatic. And that was made of people that were like truly crazy fan theories and everything. I can't imagine. And when I was younger, I was like, God, it would be so amazing to be part of a show where you had to keep secrets. And then you realize like how fucking hard that is. No, it's actually kind of makes the whole thing a little fucking easier because there's nothing you can say. Yeah, right.

- Sure. - I'm a nosy neighbor. - Yeah, we get to talk about anything. - Yeah. - Yeah. I have to watch Lost. - Oh, you have to. - No, I know, I'm so behind. - Does she have to watch Lost? - I mean, you can watch the first, the first season is excellent. - Okay. - First season, unreal. - I gotta watch it with my kid. - Second season, good. Third season, unreal again. - Oh. - Fourth season, getting weird. Fifth season, I don't know. Sixth season, all right.

Season finale, tears. What an arc. Oh, okay. Well, they really take you on a ride. I'm telling you. That's an emotional investment over many years. Yeah. Okay. They got a little messed up because of the strike in the middle. That's right. They were hitting their stride and they were like, we're a show that you really have to watch episode to episode. Again, that promotes those fan theories. And then the strike happened. It was like, oh, weird. And then it got a little weird. And then it got a little weird. Yeah. Yeah. I heard people were nuts.

satisfied with the ending. Not satisfied. Yeah, it's hard to, it's hard to land the plane. I mean, were you in holding this secret? I feel like for WandaVision as it was airing and as it was coming and people were like rapt watching because it was still like we're coming out of the pandemic, but it's like we're in it. We're like, we're at home. We're watching. We're pretty in it. We're pretty in it. You're right. So in it. We're so in the pandemic. It was, it was, it was life saving. It was life saving. Oh, absolutely. It was like, it felt like monocultural. It was like, we're all watching the same thing for once. You know what I mean? Yes. And it felt like, were you holding onto something in,

in the airing of that show that you were like, I can't like that. That was a secret that you were holding on to. Well, yeah, I think, yeah, a hundred percent. I was holding on to her like big game. Yeah. And nobody knew she was a witch and nobody knew she was. Hang on that. No. But because it was a pandemic and because I don't have social media, I could really just live my life. Didn't tell my kids. They kind of forgot about it. So it was just like we were able to watch it live.

It live. Yeah. At home. And that was really, really satisfying. It's fun. Because that big reveal is hilarious. It's amazing. I mean, it's an iconic moment in television now. It's pretty rad. Isn't that crazy? It's crazy. Yeah. That song got an Emmy. Number one. Oh, an Emmy. Oh, yeah. It was like, we topped Biebs. The top charts, you topped Biebs. Yeah, Bieber. You topped the Biebs. Bieber was, he couldn't stand a chance. No. Bieber bottomed for you.

You know what? I finally got Bieber to bottom for me. You finally got Bieber to bottom for you. Exactly where he should be all along. 100%. Wait, we have to- Agatha is a top. Agatha is a total top. Oh, for sure. Unless it's like one of those business guys who's like, I need to put a diaper on. I need you to diaper me and give me a bottle. Because I feel like she's so powerful that sometimes maybe-

She wants to be treated like a baby. Yeah. What I love about the show is it's very sapphic. Yes. It is a very queer show. I love it. It is a queer show. Yeah. And there is a lot of energy and tension. Yes. Yeah. There's a scene in the first episode, towards the end of the first episode, where-

I don't want to say too much because the first episode is so much fun because of the way it starts and it sort of calls back to the device used in WandaVision about genre and types of show. So smart what they did. But there's a scene where...

someone's palm is licked by someone else. And it's, it made me feel. It made you feel. It made me feel. Yeah. Definitely made me feel. That energy is really real. Well, okay. Plaza and I had never worked before together. We were on Parks and Rec. We were kind of like past each other in a hallway. Not sharing scenes. Not sharing scenes. Very, hey girl. Yes. Yeah. That's exactly what we would do. Hey girl. Hey girl. Hey girl.

And then she, so this was the, we've always like, we've stayed really like dear friends. And then this was the first thing that we've gotten to work on together. And it was like, what? Yeah. Didn't ever see this for the first time. Like just always saw like a comedy or something, but this was like, Oh,

Complicated. It's nice. It feels good. It had some meat on the bones. Between you and Plaza and Patty, I'm like, and I only use this word with reverence. It's like, these are some broads. Yeah. You know what I mean? I was just saying, I was like, Patty's a broad. She's a broad. She like, there is nobody. I mean, the fact that I was singing next to Patty LaPone and,

in a chorus that she just blended her voice. That was amazing. She is incredible and she's hilarious. Yeah. And she was such a mama hen. Like she just took such good care of everybody, you know? And we just basically sat around and just slurred.

siphoned info off of her. We just leeched on her and we just, yeah. Yeah. And she was willing to give it out. She was, we didn't have to do that much. Stories pouring out. She doesn't give an F. No, she really doesn't. Like, did you see her and Aubrey on Hot Ones? Yes. I haven't seen the whole thing, but I,

did about the Madonna thing. She just looks at the camera because the question is like, do you want to apologize to Madonna or eat this wing that will put you in discomfort for hours on end? And she looks at the camera and sticks that thing in her mouth. And then just throws the bone.

the bone she's throw throw and didn't she win i mean i i but there's no she didn't win she won she won she won a winner she's a winner no she's a goddess i'm gonna see her opening of her play tonight oh my god very excited with mia farrow yes it's just the two of them on stage yes i love that conceit so much i will see any play where it's just two people literally i know

I know, with no intermission. With no intermission. Oh, with no intermission. Oh, actually, I'm saying that. I'm not sure. But she's like, she, Joe is going tonight too. The delicious Joe Locke. And so she texted both of us being like, doll, we're having a little thing at Sardi's after. Of course. And we were like, oh. They should draw you.

They got to draw you. You must sit for a portrait. Maybe there's a, what if there's just a portrait or like an illustrator in the corner as like a party thing and then everyone can just get it. And then they just take it home. They're like, you can buy it for me for 40 bucks. We're not putting it out there. The whole time you think it's going to be out there and then there's somebody from Aaron Brothers sticking it in a frame. Yeah, exactly. It has to be framed. So how long are you in New York?

Just until Saturday. Okay. Yeah. So if you have any time, literally, I just remember I had this in my thing. Oh, I've heard it's incredible. So this is Sufts. I'm holding the playbill for Sufts and I'm so moved by it. Okay. And like all the emotions, like especially after the debate the other night, like just to know how

fucking hard. The suffragists worked and for years and years and years to get the right to vote. Like it, it left me feeling a little angry because there's still people out there being like, I might not vote. I'm just like, holy. Yeah. How can you be undecided? That's what we were talking about. Like, who are you to be undecided? Like what? Gosh, they did a thing that I always,

wins when they like cut to like this like focus group after the debate. Oh, that's these undecided voters. It's clown parade, clown brigade. I'm so sorry. It's like, these are silly people. These are unserious people. That's all I'll say. This woman was like, well, it's important to remember that we're voting for the leader of our country, not the person we want on our wedding party. And I'm like, what can you even explain what it is that you mean by that? What do you mean by that?

What do you mean by that? So you think she's a fun person or seems like maybe someone who might be reliable in terms of executing the duties at a wedding party? But the guy that talks about Hannibal Lecter as an actual real friend of his who's alive and not fictional, that's who you want to run the country? Can you believe the eating of pets? Can you believe the eating of... They're eating the pets, they're eating the cats, they're eating the dogs. The whole thing really does feel... It does, like, fuck with your reality. It's surreal. Because you're like, this is stuff that's coming out of people's mouths that you're like...

What? I don't understand. The split screen of it is like, oh, these are two people that are like next to each other. That are like sharing this moment. You know what really got me? The way he wouldn't look at her. I know. The way he wouldn't even look at her and that she crossed. I liked the power move in the very beginning. She crossed right over and shook his hand. And she's like, I'm not going to let you pretend. I'm not going to let you disrespect me right off the top. I'm letting you know. And also the vibe of you're not running against him. You're running against me.

He did say one thing, which I think unfortunately will stick, which is I have concepts of a plan. Well, yeah. What do you mean? What do you think? What I mean is I think that phrasing

It's going to be in the lexicon. It's going to be in the lexicon. Like, what's your plan for this weekend? I have concepts of a plan. We're going to start saying that now. I'm going to start saying that now. It's the one thing where I'm like, damn it. I actually do have concepts of a plan for the weekend. And then eventually something happens. Right. Exactly. What's your ideal concept of a weekend? Oof. I would love to sleep in. Yeah. I want to dance. I got to dance. Got to dance. You do got to dance. Got to dance.

I do got a name. I saw this club hopping thing on your college yearbook and that was really relatable. What was it? That's what I put in my freshman college yearbook. I was like, special, like, what do you like to do? And I put like, poetry, art, acting, club hopping. Club hopping?

Put it out there. Yeah. This was Northwestern? This was Northwestern, but I grew up in Cleveland. Okay, great. So it was like Midwest club culture. Oh my gosh. That was the best. Okay. So like- Because it felt very underground. Yeah. So it was like-

it was the best people. My mind was like, it just was the, it was the greatest. Well, literally like the birthplace, like Detroit birthplace of techno. It's like you were, you were there for it. That's what I felt like. That is like, exactly. Yeah. And Cleveland, the heart of rock and roll. The heart of rock and roll. Huey Lewis said it and we'll, and we'll still say it today. My mom, I remember finally, I was like, I don't need to finally go into the rock and roll hall of fame. And my mom walking out of there was like, oh, who needs,

- Who needs to pay 20 bucks to see a sweaty t-shirt and plexiglass? - Oh, mom. - Come on, mom. - I love the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, it's fun. - It's cute. - It's really cute. - I have yet to go, I must go. - It's fun. - I get what your mom's saying. It is a lot of just like glass cases, like, you know, like the jacket. - Sweaty pits. - It's a kid at Hollywood. It's like, oh, the jacket that Michael- - I love Planet Hollywood and Hard Rock for that reason. - I have not been at Planet Hollywood so long. - You gotta go. - Oh, I've got to go. - You could be sitting at a table

And above you could just be one of Madonna's bras. That could happen. You could be eating knowing that the bra is right above you. Right there. Okay. I have to. Also, isn't it different in every location? Yes. They have different artifacts. I got to. Like if you go to the one in, I don't know, let's say like Universal Studios, Orlando. They've got good stuff there because that's a big hard rock place.

That's a really important cultural hard rock, the one in Orlando. Yes. Do you get a free pass to Disney World now? No. That's ridiculous. But sometimes, like they've been really, they've been very generous. Like we went, we, I took my...

My friend and I and our daughters there like recently and that was totally on the mouth. Yeah. Which was really freaking sweet. I love Disney. We love it. And you know, there's someone walking around as you now, which has to feel wild. It is so trippy. They have ears. They have the like mouse ears. Like purple Agatha ears? Like Agatha ones. Like Agatha is walking around. It's so crazy. To see...

Other people like- Be you. Be you. We went to an event in London and it was like cosplay. So there's already like cosplays for every character in the show. Wow.

Joe Locke has cosplay. The teen has cosplay. Yes. That's perfect. Yes. He's so cute and awesome. He's adorable. And what's so great too immediately off the jump is like you got to compliment the costume design of this show because everyone immediately is so signature. You know, like everyone's got a thing. Like Patty's like hair, like the sheer what she's wearing and just like stunning. Like, I mean, like there's so much. Allie's like.

Yeah. Everybody. The punk rock moment. So you can really like even just in silhouette, you know exactly who everybody is. Yep. Rios, like Aubrey's character. Like, you know, you know who everyone is. The amazing Deborah Jo. Oh, Deborah Jo. She cannot open her mouth without everybody laughing. That's a real legend right there. I mean, that 70s show, there was not a

- Her timing is like nothing I've ever seen. - Oh yeah, her deciding whether or not she's gonna go and she's like, "Uh, like on the, we'll see." Everyone's gonna see. - Everyone will see. I hope everyone sees. - They're gonna see. - It's really, really juicy. - It's good. - Who isn't a witch really? - Now I was gonna ask you this, before playing Agatha, do you feel witchy? - Yeah. - You a witchy person? - Yeah.

I think I am. I think like I was definitely that was my Halloween costume. Like most of my childhood was that or the tooth fairy. And then. That's a binary right there. That's a binary. It is. It was like, I could have been like Phantom of the Opera, like have one side of my face a witch and then gone like this. Yeah, exactly. Tooth fairy. Harvey Dunn vibes. Yes.

But yeah, I always think I've, you know, I feel like anyone that feels kind of, you know, not normally, like not in the norm. Gotcha. Or that feels a little bit like doesn't really feel like they fit in or it doesn't feel like everybody else is a witch. Yeah. So your covens are the people that you feel most connected to and make you feel the most safe and the most seen. Yeah.

There's a moment in the show at the end of episode two when you guys are all singing where it's like the coven kind of gathering and assembling where you just feel like it's the direction. It's the performances. It's like all of you are all really attuning to each other. It's so important. I'm like, what's going on? Is this like...

wow, whoa, this feels like a little indulgent, but I don't mind it. But it's a necessary thing where you guys have to sing at each other in order to forge this bond that takes you into the rest of the season. Must to Agatha's chagrin. She doesn't want to play with other people because it's like gag me. I feel like, because I was thinking about your career and I'm like, oh, this is someone who went from fucking Revolutionary Road to Step Brothers to fucking like,

transparent to them. I'm like this woman. You've done it all. This is witchy. She does it all. But that's a witchy thing to be able to glide so seamlessly your whole career. It's weirdly witchy in that I've been able to get away with it. No one has been like, ah, she's

strictly comedy or she's strictly drama or she's strictly whatever. I've been able to kind of disappear or I just haven't been well known enough that everyone meets me anew like, who's that? So I've just been able to kind of squeeze myself into different projects and that's been like, that's why I wanted to

I wanted to be an actor. Yeah. Right. To be able to do that. And have it so much. Yeah. I love a rep company. I love like when some, like any group of actors, it's like Richard III on one day and like, noise is off. You know, like that kind of vibe is like the best. That's like why I wanted to get into this mess.

So yeah, that's been fun. But again, like this last chapter that I've been doing, I think has really prepared me for the witch. Yeah, totally. For sure. Just because like every woman that I've been playing has been so ethically, like morally, like a little bit, not their insides are on their outsides a little bit and they make really questionable decisions. And I think that that's,

Suppressing the witch. Yeah. And also that versatility that you've shown directly speaks to like what happens in WandaVision where from episode to episode, you are playing a different genre. I just remember watching the first episode or two where you were so at home in that sitcom, that throwback sitcom thing. Like everyone was crushing it. But I remember there was just a moment where you like...

turned around, you're getting, you and her doing like a walk about the kitchen. Yeah. And I was just like, look at how oriented she is, how comfortable you are. Just like, and it had to be, or you tell me, but like, was that just so fun? And that's where it comes, that's where like the accuracy comes from is how fun that opportunity is. Like, what is that? That's my dream come true. Right? I mean, Agatha first is a performer and she's a ham.

But I mean, she loves to work a cape. Yeah. But in those in that whole series leading up to her like reveal every different genre was like you said, it was just like a dream to study those sitcoms, like figure out the movement for each decade to like. Yeah, of course. The best. The best. Major. The best. I couldn't believe it. Yeah. So crazy. That's such a holistic thing.

project for any actor for like all but like especially for you and Elizabeth it's like oh like what's next it feels like procedural almost but in terms of television itself it's crazy it was so meta that's what this feels like the same way but instead of like the sitcoms as being like the backbone of it and changing it's kind of more like genre or tone I guess so it's like

It's like very scary. It's like all of those. It gets very deep. You know, so it's all the things. And it switches so fast.

So fast. So there's definitely like, I would say the same structurally in terms of, in terms of the switches. Yeah. But it's maybe from, from a different perspective. Yeah. Yeah. It fulfills this rubric where it's like any great performance you go, could anyone else have done this? Like Matt and I talk about this all the time. It's like, could anyone else have done this? And it's like, because you have led up to this moment in terms of like, with like,

seamlessly transitioning from one thing to the next. Oh my gosh, you guys. It feels like a perfect marriage of a performer and an amazing role where it's just like, of course it's iconic because it is that thing of like, we've been waiting for this. And I also will say, just to talk about Revolutionary Road. Yeah, please.

I'll just never forget because I think that came out in 2007 or 8. And I think that before that, so me being a 14-year-old in 2004 on Long Island, I at the time, I was trying really hard to like...

code switch in my own way and fit in with like the boys, right? And I just remember like a shared language that we all had was Anchorman. And Will Ferrell is actually a producer of this podcast. Stop it! Yeah. And he's coming on soon. He's coming on next week. What an asshole. What an asshole. Goddamn jerk. Not funny. Yeah, not funny at all. He saw a fake laugh. 100%. But just that scene with you and...

and Christina Applegate, where you tell her that he'll read anything off the prompter. Just like that was a moment where all my like male friends were like quoting like what women were doing in a movie. I know this sounds odd. - No, no, I know exactly what you're- - But at that moment I felt like, oh, this is like- - I have a way in. - I was like the thing that I loved the most about this movie, which was like Christina and like everyone, like Veronica was like- - Veronica. - We loved Veronica.

But just like between that and also then a few years later, me knowing you from that. And then obviously Step Brothers, which is a whole other stratosphere. We were crying on Fire Island. We were like the only gay men on that island watching Step Brothers. Like an Adam McKay movie. But we were like just dying. It's so stupid funny. I mean, I watched the scene again with you breathing into his mouth. It was just like, it's insane. I was like, this is.

Can you talk about that scene? I mean, that was, I think I know the scene you're talking about. The scene with John C. Reilly on the porch? It's too much. On the porch. It's too much. Oh, no. And then there's the bathroom one. I want to roll you up in a little ball. Yeah. Oh, and then the bathroom. Yeah. That was our AD who pitched it because everything was, he was like, why don't you go, you should try going over and just peeing in the urinal. And I was like, yeah, I should. Leg up. Perfect. Leg up. Just genius. Had to. Complete insanity. Otherwise, it'd be all over you.

- Of course. - With the hottest parts.

With these parts, it's not a direct hit. Yeah, no. You never know what way it's going to go. I love it. She's a beast. She's a beast. She's a beast. But yeah, we improvised all that. I was wondering, how epic is that? Was it the McKay way of like, we'll shoot a scene as rude and then you do it. Don't even think about the script. Yes. You just, just do that. Which is so genius because the script is somewhere in there because you know you have to get somewhere. It can't just be like, but then sometimes it went places that...

I don't even know. Like we had this, like we'd so dark. We were planning Adam Scott's murder, like in detail while we were having sex. I love it. Really graphic. Like,

Like how we would get him to the place, who would have the knife, who would do the first, I mean, it was so graphic. Release that Snyder cut. Where's that cut? Oh my God. I know. Even at the end when like everyone, it's at the Catalina Wine Mixer. Oh my God. When Will is singing and it's like everyone, it like cuts to people.

- Beautiful singing, by the way. - Beautiful singing, gorgeous singing. - Gorgeous voice. - And you in a gorgeous head voice singing "Sweet Child of Mine" too. Like you and Patty singing together makes total sense now because it's like- - Oh my God. - You know the road scene too. - And it's like Katherine Hahn can sing. - Yeah. - Right. - But anyway. - I'm really good at karaoke. - What's your song? - Yeah, what's your song? - Oh, I love a ballad. I love a ballad. I love any slow Rihanna song. - "Stay"? - "Stay." - Yes.

It was just, a woman was just crushing it in the subway last night. Stop it. I'm telling you, I can't. And I thought I had seen all the beautiful singing at Sufts. But then I got in town to the subway and a woman was. Oh, Sufts is a musical. It's a musical. It's by Shanna Taub. Who is actually our friend from years back. She just won two Tony. She's the first person ever to win the Tony for writing the book and score of a musical. And she's the lead. Okay. I am so sold. You are going to die.

love this. Yeah, I can't wait. Okay. But anyway, like just to talk about like all these like ways that you were so iconic from a comedic standpoint like to us and then I remember I watched Revolutionary Road because there is there was that real side of me that really just wants to see Kate Winslet in a domestic drama. Yes. And then to see you in that and that insanely beautiful so heartbreaking scene at the end where you break and

And is it David Harbour? Yeah. He's so good. So good. And the tragedy. And like, I want you to know, like, having known you from the stuff that we knew you from to that, I was like,

Catherine Han. And I like, that's why it's crazy that you're here because you really are fucking great. Oh God. I shot that the same summer as stepbrothers. Really? Wow. And that was improvised too? It was improvised. Sam Mendes was like, all right. One for fun. Yeah. One for you guys. Yeah, totally. But I mean, that's when things started to be like, okay, okay, okay. Like I could actually do this. Like I don't have to be, I didn't,

I didn't think I was comedy at all. Like I didn't think it was in my bones. I was like a serious, I studied like serious plays, but then I was always the class clown. Like I was always the one kind of fucking around. So maybe, you know, that should have taught me something.

Well, I know it's like other people are telling you, but you've broken out of that. But I have. Yeah. I think it was like working with honestly, I started working with these incredible women writer filmmakers that just were excited about, you know, I always try to fit in instead of just being myself. Like I always felt like I was trying to hit the mark and

be the best friend and the quirky best friend. Yeah. But then the pregnant best friend, you know, I had like a chapter, but then I, through McKay actually, the first one that it was like finally felt,

anarchic in a way that I really dug. Yeah. And I took that into any kind of acting moving forward. Like the ability to just be trusted. Yeah. That whatever you bring is nothing's wrong. I love anarchic. Yeah. Because like I feel like okay you pick this up from McKay and then I feel like this collaboration you have with

Joey Soloway is kind of that same sort of anarchy where it's like, it can be anything. And I don't think that I would have had the same availability to that had I not done those movies with Adam. Really? Yeah.

Which is so awesome. No, I love it. That is awesome though. And work with those dudes. Like just to watch Will's, his just deftness and his like brain just being like, I don't understand his brain. He's like really touched. He's an alter. By an angel. By an angel. He's touched by an angel. I think 80 was someone who, 80 Brian would work with like when he came to my house, she was just like, he's just someone you look at and you like smile and you laugh. I know. He's a magic person. And he's also like,

- A dear, dear, dear person. - Yeah. - Yeah. Gentle giant. - I mean, this new documentary that's coming out, "Will and Harper." - I've seen it. - You've seen it? We're about to. - We're about to see it. - You are going to cry. - I'm ready. - It is so moving. It is so beautiful. Both of them are just gorgeous. It's really beautiful. - Incredible. - Yeah.

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I was just thinking like getting to work with Will and you're saying like the value in learning, like how that style and that like ability to improvise, like can then like inform the scripted work or that stuff that's more, you know, on the page later. What I feel like is that's why it's so important when you're working. I love the directors and the showrunners that

And you don't always get that time because it's hard. Like something people might not know about production is it's a jam. You know what I mean? Like it's like a time crunch. But when you get that opportunity to have that one take-

Like I just worked with Liz Feldman and like actually Tiana Paris is in that show too. It's coming out later this year. She's an angel. And she can do it all too. She can do it all. But she always was like, okay, and then we're going to do the fun run. And those are my favorite words. Because I know that that's where a lot of this stuff really comes from. And when you feel like you're rushed out of something, whatever, you say they got it. They know what they're doing. But the opportunity is something that's not always there. To just get it all out.

I feel like there's no stone left unturned. Yeah, and you're right. Joey Soloway, like working with them was, really did shift that movie, Afternoon Delight, kind of changed all of our perspectives on what it is to make something because you never knew where the...

camera was. Yeah. It kept liberating. He was like such an emotional camera operator that he would just like follow where the scene was, all the beats of it was, that was amazing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Just having that, that like leader, like doing the project that's interested in that. Yes. And like, I would also say like, that's why it's great to like, you know, not like,

whenever anyone that's in, obviously money is money or whatever, but like to not feel like every single second of every single day, you have to just like get it. Like it's such a gift, like for that to not be the situation I think nowadays. Yes. Although I would say too, that sometimes when there's like tight constraints, like if it's time or money, there is like a real freedom and excitement to have to do it. Like you don't have a lot of time. Like I kind of like that feeling too, of being like, okay, got to make a decision. Can't like waffle, like,

You know, you can't like try everything. So like, this is it. I gotta like, I gotta really play it. Yeah. You know, this has to be, this has to matter because otherwise that's it. That's what they'll use. Right. And you tend not to like look back and be like, I should have done this. Oh, always. Okay. Okay. I barely, I hate watching myself. Like I never look at the monitors. A lot of people want to go look at what they've done. And I'm like,

If I start looking at it, I'll be looking at the wrong stuff. Of course. No, 100%. I would just be like, oh, God. Oh, my God, those bags. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I just couldn't. You can't see yourself. And what I mean is that's not like being like, you can't see yourself. What I'm saying is like people cannot really see themselves. Especially with like Zoom and Marco Polo. I think people are getting crazy about their own stuff.

- You're a Marco Polo person? - I love Marco Polo. - I love Marco Polo. - I do, I love it, I love it. Especially when traveling and then you can still stay connected. I love it. - He's a little Marco Polo freak, you love it. - I love it. Put on the different voices. - Oh, there's different voices, little effects. The people that I was like in Marco Polo with like have kind of fallen off and I kind of, I miss it. So we had a Marco Polo group called Core Talk. This was early days of quarantine.

March 2020 quarantine. Quartalk was me, Joe Firestone, Josh Sharp, Cola Scola. And then the four of us would just check in every day. And then we just like sort of fell off. It's like, we need to bring back Marco Polo. I know it's visual voicemail. It's so easy. It's like, you're just checking in. I have like four friends and we, and my daughter sometimes, and she always does like,

She'll sometimes do like a try on at a store. Be like, what about this? That's so helpful. And it's so freaking cute. It's just, I want to say, I mean, I want to save them for, but that's kind of brilliant thing about it is that they're always there, but just for you, us. Yeah. The owners of them are whatever the phone is real private, which I like. Yeah. You keep it together. I think we, I just y'all keep it in house. I mean, you could just go back. I could just go back to March, 2020 and like,

get a visual diary of like, well, like who knows how long this is going to last. It's like crazy to think about. It is so crazy to think about. It's like intimate and all that stuff. Yes. The next thing we'll think about is the central question of this podcast. So this is the, you know, my segues over the years, we've done this now for about eight and a half years. They're getting worse. No, that was amazing. You thought that was amazing? That was amazing. I thought so. I mean, listen, I thought it was important to get to the question and,

- Listen, this is like a set. - We needed to. - Would you say it was amazing? - Time is money. Money is time. Will Ferrell's out there with a stopwatch.

He better get to it. He cracks the whip, Will. Oh, he really does. I want to talk about how long that, until you got to the central question. Oh my God. He's like, here's my notes, boys. So we ask everybody that comes through here. Yes, I do. What was the culture that made you say culture was for you? Meaning the pop culture that you can remember that you, Catherine Han now, are like little Catherine Han then may have started becoming because of this.

Well, you know, when I first heard that this was a question, I was going to say Italy. I love the food. I love the land. Cinema, Italian. I love the cinema. I love the...

I love the cheese, the bread. The disco. Exactly. I love it. I love the club hopping. That's all very, but those are all wonderful, sumptuous things that I feel like you connect with. Italian things. Italian things, like a little pool in the middle of nowhere. That's an amazing answer. Did you want to change the answer? Well, then I thought, oh, if it was, yes, no, if I didn't, if I had to. If Italy wasn't even on the map. If Italy didn't exist. Oh, perish the thought.

the thought. I would say then it was techno music for me. It was when I was introduced to, I don't know if you'd call Bjork, but Bjork, New Order, all that kind of music was just like, that was my...

Again, my club hopping days. Yeah, yeah. I think it was earlier. But that really moved me in ways that I did not feel before. I was in a family of like, there's a lot of classical music. In Cleveland, there's a lot of hard, dumb rock. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like not even rock that you're just like. Dumb rock. I love shredding. Yeah, it's just shredding. Just like a lot of like pour some sugar on me. No offense, but you know, it didn't really hit me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It wasn't for me. Totally. But there was something about this that like,

we can all like let our freak flags for like fly. Yeah. I felt Bjork's music. I just was like, who is this person? Yeah. I still am. That's anarchic. It's like unstructured. Yeah. It's like, it's just, if you're talking about like general techno, it's just like the loop of it. Right. You just get lost in like,

And also that beat can be so solid. Yeah. And a lot of techno. But Bjork, you know, that she uses real stuff to make those beats.

I mean, or whatever. Yeah. Yeah. Basketball bouncing around. She just is one in a gazillion. I love this. And I don't think we've ever had anyone say Bjork. You know, a couple of years ago, I went to Coachella and Bjork was on the Coachella stage and she did an orchestral set.

And it was just so funny because a lot of people were there for Bjork and I think they maybe thought they were getting... Like the noise and the sound. No, but this is Fasora. This is like the mushroom one. But those who knew, knew what she was going to be doing. And it was fully just her and a full orchestra. And it was still as Bjork as any other Bjork. But just that she's an artist that can go up there and...

It's constantly surprise and delight in that way. Yes. That is, that is, we were having a debate as to like what pop star has been able to evolve and not kind of feel like they have to stay somewhere to get cringy. Yeah. Have the same wardrobe, the same kind of sound. She's someone that I feel like is constantly. Yes. And I feel like Adele too. Like that is the person that is going to keep going.

growing but yeah i mean i saw this video of bjork recently i don't know if you've seen it but it's just her on lava rocks in iceland in this little hut where she made that album and you were like what you are talking about a witch yeah talk about a witch that is she is a witchy woman conjuring brilliant shit yes exactly sound right favorite bjork album

Oh, it's got to be the, well, I loved it from Sugar Cubes, which was like before. I would say, actually, what's the one from the movie that she did? Oh, Dancer in the Dark? Yes. I love it. I've Seen It All is maybe one of the best songs of all time. It makes me want to cry thinking about it. And that performance on the Oscars, I remember I was like seven or eight. I don't think I saw that. Oh, this is where she famously wore the swan dress. Oh, yes, of course. And she was on all those, I remember she was on all the worst dress lists because people just didn't,

understand it and then people mimicked it and it was like so dumb yeah yeah yeah it was like the easy comedy of the time yes but obviously on face value it's like very a very American thing to like make fun of her for doing that because again like they wouldn't get it so it's very on the nose comedy of that time like look at the stupid woman wearing this stupid thing hard dumb rock dumb shit it's like hard dumb rock it's like hard dumb rock hard dumb rock yeah yeah

Like, York Swan dress. It's like, okay. I think there's still pockets that are like that, which is like, you guys. Yeah, well, they exist. I mean, but that was that performance. She was really acting on stage and like, it was just this insane, beautiful moment. And I remember watching it at the time being like, I don't get this at all because I was seven and from Long Island. But then like years later, I watched that performance again and I was like, wow.

This is truly art. Like she's like really living that. There's my thing. My other favorite song is Stone Milker. And I don't know what album song, but I want you guys to listen to it. Stone Milker is the yellow one. I just know them by color. Oh, that's kind of amazing. I don't know. We are. We really. We deal in color. Sensory. We're not. We're not. We're not.

We're not, we're not synesthetic at all. But like, it was all that music that I was just like, I just think that all of that blew my mind. Yeah. And really made me like, feel like these are my people. Like, I don't know. There's something in it that was like felt. So I'd say that kind of shifted something for me that I didn't have to just exist in this like male, big, big sounding guitar, you know, dudes with, I was going to say dudes with tank tops on, but I,

But yet here I am. Also, you said that that was Magic Johnson. I'm very surprised how slender he was. So I can't say this was his real jersey, but if it was. Yeah, he was a slender guy. Oh, I thought it was his real jersey. Oh my God. If this Williamsburg thrift store really had it. I know this should be at a Hard Rock. That should be at a Plexiglas. This should be above a table of someone eating seafood pasta. Exactly. That should be at a Planet Hollywood.

And it will be after this. It'll be Matt Rogers' Magic Johnson jersey. From Magic Johnson's lighter days. Exactly. Have you, just to speak on the techno thing a little bit more, have you been to Berlin?

Yeah, we just came back from Berlin. Oh, yeah? But we didn't get to do anything in that we were working. Were you busy? But I want to go do it there so bad. You would get in? Yes. We're talking about Berghain. Well, we're talking about the whole city, but Berghain, I mean, are you trying to get into Berghain? But you're a head, like you're a techno head. You get it. They would read you and be like- They would sense it. They would sense it. Oh, I would want to. Now, I also heard stories of Berlin, which are fascinating to me.

they're like clubs with like grates that you can walk above it and just urinate on the people below you. Oh, sure. Yeah, yeah. That sounds like Kit Kat club. We have not been to the clubs ourselves. I just, that is amazing to me. We were there really briefly. Glory holes. Glory holes, of course. But like, so there, that's what I love about hearing about Berlin is it's just like. Lawless. Lawless. Uh-huh.

Not where we were. No. No. You're on a dance floor and a song comes on from that time. It just, it really, you can feel the energy in the room. Like it's different. It's just like there's, there's such a quality to it too because it's new. It's like brand new. Yeah. So I just love that sound. Or it's just like, it's brand new and it's also like, I don't know if you guys agree with this, but it's like,

perfectly ephemeral. It's like, whoever you meet on the dance floor is someone that you are going to connect with meaningfully, but like you may not ever see again. Yes. And that's okay. But not in like a sexual or like, no, it's just a spiritual level. Like, yeah. Connecting with you and like, look like, and then we'll just like, yeah, you're on a trip with that person. You're on like a trip. Yeah. Oh, beautiful. I know. There's something really beautiful about that. Yeah.

- We gotta go again. - We gotta go again. - Oh yeah. - You gotta go. - I gotta go again, but you know what? I gotta do with a good couple of months, but on the other side, because mama, it takes longer for her to recover.

I mean, every single day gets harder. We're falling off a cliff personally. Yeah, no, every day it's difficult to look in the mirror right off the bat. Right off the bat it's hard. Under here is really tough, especially when you realize it's like, it's not like, oh, I didn't get enough sleep. Oh my God, you guys are gorgeous. Well, so are you, but you can't see yourself is what I'm saying. Yeah, you can. Until you can the morning after you've partied and you realize it's not that I didn't get enough sleep.

It's that there's just less collagen there than there used to be. And it's filled with rosé. It's just your face. It's gravity. Oh, yeah. One day I woke up and I was like, oh, my God. Do I have like a palsy? Because one eye had drooped so low. Like my eyebrows were so opposite. It was really noticeable. Just like you quizzical? Yes, it really was like, whoops, my face.

It was Harvey Dent. It was Tooth Fairy on one side and it was Witch on the other. Exactly. Tooth Fairy and a Witch. Tooth Fairy and a Witch. Tooth Fairy and a Witch is the title of that. That's it. Oh, yeah. Wait, hold on. I'm now compelled, I don't know why, to ask you if you love Disney, what's your favorite ride or attraction? Okay. My favorite ride. And you're now a spokesperson for the company, remember. My mouse ears disappear in my head. My favorite ride is Space...

Okay. I would say Space Mountain. Space Mountain. The inside one that has the trippiest music. Yeah. And all the lights. Space Mountain. Classic. The house down. Classic. I love that. And I love also the...

It's a memory play, you guys. No, yeah, I know. No, I know. We're going to the mine castle. What's the one that's like, it's like an alpine one. Matterhorn. Matterhorn. Matterhorn. Not great for the neck anymore, but I really love it. In fact, really bad for the neck. Really bad for the neck. For all the bones. Darling. You have to like press yourself against the back of it because I can't handle it anymore. Those are both like, I would say like,

single file like flume-esque. Not flumes, there's no water, but it's like you're on, it's just like you're on like a fucking- Well, it's a bobsled. It's a slalom. Yes. It's a slalom. A slalom. One of the great words. I'm gonna slalom a sip of water right now. Slalom. Slalom it down. As you slalom. Slalom it down. I gotta hawk this slalom, Ruby. Not hawk the slalom. I absolutely love it. It was somehow Shakespearean when you said it. It was somehow gorgeous. Hawk the slalom. You know how you know your old two? Yee, I'll slok your hollum.

Lucky Harlem. Lucky Harlem. Happy holidays. You know you're old when you go on one roller coaster. I'm going to Six Flags on Friday. Oh, that's such a hot box. You go on one roller coaster and you feel like your stomach is in your shoulder. It's like suddenly a G-Force is like...

Weak ruining. Your brain is still three feet above your head. And you're like, you know what I need right now? A corn dog. Yeah. Yeah. That'll make it better. I said the next day after you go to Disney or any theme park,

your stomach is a rock. It's a rock. Nothing's happening for days. And you just think to yourself like, yeah, come on, we're here. Let's do it. Let's consume it all. Yeah. We're here. We might as well. Hey, I'm going to have a churro. Churro. Churro is a cat food. Churro. Churro? Churro. Churro. It's like a thing you give to cats that they love a treat to get them out from hiding out of the bed. My daughter's always like, it's churro. Oh.

It is churro. Yeah, it is. But listen, do we even like churros? Let's give it a... We're not having this conversation. Of course we do. I think we do. It depends. Sometimes they can be shit city, but when they're good, they're great. When they're absolutely doused. You know what I did have at Disney one time? It was churro with... What's the cereal, my girl? That's the one with the... Cornflakes. No, no, no. The rainbow one. Oh, Lucky Charms? Fruit Loops? Fruit Loops. It was a churro.

Covered in Froot Loops? That you could only get in like the darkest corner of Disneyland. Or of the county fair. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, it was. That's a sugar lick. Like that feels like my mouth would be furry. Powdered with sugar. You know when you eat something so sweet, you're like, ah. Yeah, now I'm different. Now I'm different. Like I've grown hair on the inside of my mouth. Well, speaking of sugar, you know what really hurt my feelings the other day? Oh, no.

air it out finding out that a diet coke which is now my new obsession because we're trying to be drinking less because of the age of it all yes I know me too it's not as cute it's hard but it also feels so much better when you're asleep it's better yeah okay but yes that there's more caffeine in this than there is in cold brew

- What? - Really? - That's what they said. Almost the person, this is they. - We got people shaking their heads behind the camera. I think you're gonna get a lot. - Do you have something to say? - Do you have something to say? Are you shaking your head at this interview? - I'm not a DC fanatic. - You're not a DC fanatic? - Are you more Coke Zero? - My girlfriend is obsessed with DC. It's like a problem. - What are you obsessed with? Regular Coke? - No, I just drink coffee. - Okay. - Hot coffee, kid. - Oh, that's good.

But I do love Bjork. That makes me very happy. You really did something there. That was good. That was iconic comedy. That was really good. Respect. Respect. The album with Stone Milker is Volna Kura. Volna Kura. Thank you. That's the yellow one. I got the color right. Let me tell you something. From now on, if there's ever a moment where we are stumped, you have the permission as a culture. Everybody does. Yes. Anybody. What do you think? I'm just answering for it. That.

- So we have different subgroups of our fandom. - Yes. - You might be a finalist for that one. - That's finalist. - That was finalist behavior. - Thank you. - If any guests you have on is just not clicking, you could just say, okay, well this is our, thank you so much. And then. - And then throw them in. - Just be like, hey Will, this is bad. This isn't feeling good. - You guys can have some secret hand gestures. Why not? - Just to say that we didn't make it today. - Why the hell not?

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Have we ever had a secret handshake as besties? No. I don't think we're those kinds of fun. I love that you're besties. For 15 years. You guys have fun. You get to do this together. So fun. Has it deepened it or? Deepened. Okay, good. You know, I would say like, because we've also spent a lot of time together this year. Just even like outside of the, it's like, you know. Yeah. We're not just work friends. Also, you get to go through this together, which is so exciting. Yeah. Yeah. Like last night we saw,

I saw Suffs on Broadway and there's just so many people in the cast and not just Shayna who created the show, but that we went to school with. Like our friend Kim Blank, who's so amazing. Ada Westfall, just to shout out some people.

And I literally went backstage and I just started sobbing because I was like, A, so moved by what I had seen, but also we all had the same mentor. Her name was Liz Suedos. She was like a sort of like giant. Where did she go to school? NYU we went. But this woman was like a giant in downtown theater and was like a mentor to several of us. And I just like felt her spirit there and how proud she was. And like, it's the only time I really get wooed

is when I like, not the only time. I'm always like, what time are you? Yeah, no, but like one of the times I get really woo-woo is when I feel like,

that mentor that we had that her spirit is in the room and her spirit was so in the room. Oh gosh. Do you have like a mentor that you can look back on that you feel like? Oh yeah, for sure. A lot of amazing teachers. Yeah. Yeah. That you're just like, wow, I've, I've still used some of the stuff that I learned from them. Yeah, for sure. And then there's some teachers that you're like, wow, what, what, what happened there? Like, what was that?

Right. For sure. You're like the problematic teachers and you're like, where did you make me do? Yes. We had a teacher that was we would all have to find an animal and kind of become that animal on stage. Yeah. I was a gibbon. Of course. Yeah. A monkey with the long, long arms. And then a girl in my class, now a woman, was a panther. And she wore a thong leotard over thong tights.

And which I guess. Panther like. Panther like. Certainly inhabiting. And this teacher used to keep being like, drop into your panther. Drop into your panther. And so then she would just be crawling around on the stage roaring. Yeah. With the song on. And you're like, what was that about? Yeah, I'm like, come on. None of us.

you can't pull the wool over our eyes no no you can't no John Early has a story where he the first day of class at Tisch there was one teacher it doesn't matter who but he goes I think he was an ETW he was an ETW experimental theater they went for it the teacher's like an older man and just goes

I just want to say if there are any journalists, if there's any press in the room, get out. It's like these are 18-year-old children. Stop it. Oh, wow. If there's any press in the room, please leave. If there's any press in the room, get out. Wait. On the first night, there's a freshman. There's 18-year-olds. What's happening? What's going to happen to me? It's insane. That's genius. There's also a couple of them from the musical theater studio tell a story about like one day one of the dance teachers lined them up and was like, several of you will get through on your looks.

You, you, you kinda. Like just-

God. Brutal. When I went to 4-H camp, which was like this kind of farm camp in Ohio, my cousins live, I was like the big city cousin up in Cleveland. They lived right on the border between Kentucky and Ohio in a small town called Waynesville. Waynesville. And I loved going there. Like such a sweet, awesome haunted town. Yeah. But it was called the second most haunted town in Ohio. Ha ha ha.

I took that very to heart. I know, I'm like, there is a documentary there. That's like drop dead gorgeous. This is where the world's oldest living Lutheran, like what towns are known for, like the riff on that, like what a small town is like a landmark for. The second most haunted town in Ohio.

But anyway, we went to a camp, a 4-H camp, and the counselors had all the girls line up, put a sheet over our face, or like this to this, and we had a legs competition. I was 12 years old and my cousin won. Your cousin won? Yeah, there was two horrible memories about it. Yeah. The competition itself and then your cousin winning. She was like, it's nothing, it's nothing. And I was like, no, I'm so happy for you.

Because it's like, you lose and also there's someone who's doing that. I know. Like, I forgot about that until afterwards when we were like, how fucked up was that? Have you watched Chimp Crazy? I'm obsessed with Chimp Crazy. Yeah.

- Are you done with it? - No, I haven't seen the only one. Yeah, that's the last one. I have to wait until I get home because my family would- - Oh, it would kill you. - Would kill me. - Would go crazy on you. - Oh, you're watching it all together. - Yes. - So you've gone to the third episode where you- - I know. - You know the truth. - The truth and they know the truth, but they haven't, oh, they just told Peta. - They just told Peta. - Can I ask, spoiler alert, what's the truth?

We can't tell you what the truth is because you, I'm telling you, Matt. I've only seen the first one. Oh, no, you just need to watch it. It's really interesting because it's a lot of women. It's these women who have this obsession with these monkeys. And it's like the PETA lady says, it's like, it's this phenomenon where it's usually women, almost always women who like adopt these monkeys as if they were their own child. Yes, they want, because they can keep them as these like,

It's like such control issues. Like talk about,

Mommy dead and dearest. It's really like they just diaper them all and sleep with them and take them out for walks. Is it a control thing? Yes, I think it is. But then they turn six and it's like a wild animal. Right. Correct. They're like, like it starts to get dangerous. Your baby is ripping your face off. Suddenly your baby rips someone's face off and they have the first full human face transplant. Yeah.

I couldn't believe that. Oh my God. I was watching it over her shoulder on the plane. Where were we coming from? Toronto. We were up in Toronto when we were coming back.

And it was just so funny because you're watching Chimp Crazy and I was reading this book called Status and Culture. And I was like, if this isn't role reversal. It's a role reversal. Because usually I'm like watching like Housewives and I'm reading a book. This was a great. We learn from each other. Great. It's amazing. There's some amazing articles about Travis. Travis was the Chimp in Connecticut.

And Travis apparently was even given a Xanax in his orange juice that morning because mom knew something could be off. What? Yes. I had no idea. He was jumping around the house. She couldn't get a handle on him. She gave him, she had to slip him a Xanax. Do you think? On a regular basis. But that day she was like, this is a Xanny day. Do you think the Xanny had anything to do with him ripping off? I think that he really saw that Elmo doll.

and lost it yeah something about Elmo yes didn't sit right it did not sit right no and then he just yeah that Elmo makes people freak the fuck out it makes it makes me freak out although some kids love it well the tickle me I was always like what is it kids crazy it was giving kids seizures and shit oh remember that yes the tickle me Elmo the most popular toy I think of all time was lethal because it would just shake and of course kids were gonna freak

Yeah. Yes. That's weird. You're right. It was a seizure doll. Yes. That you gave to your kids and said, yeah, everyone has this. And then they were like, and like, what are you going to do? You get overstimulated. It's like drinking 10 of these. Do you remember that thing? I think it was in Japan, the Teletubbies where they had to pull it from the air because kids couldn't watch it without having seizures. Oh, yeah. It was some sort of epileptic. Another kids show. Yeah.

- So something was going on. - There was something going on with kids programming and that's actually a rule of culture across the board, 103. There's something going on with kids programming. - As we're talking about theater, what was the last play you did or musical or stage thing? - The last play I did was "Boeing Boeing" which was here. - Wow. - Yes. - On Broadway. - Oh my God, "Boeing Boeing." Wait, when are you gonna do it again?

You know, I got to wait until my kids are out of the house because it's not a mom job. Unless they're here. But I would never see them. So you are in L.A., though. Yeah. Yeah. OK. And you like L.A.? I love L.A. now. I left kicking and screaming. I had a storage unit in Brooklyn for so long. Like way too long. And we finally had everything you hauled out here. And the shit that I saved that I thought was

like storage unit worthy. I had like, I had like bags of tights with like holes in them. You need your tights. Yeah, I need my tights. And I had,

I had tights, tights and hoes. And then I had like a salad spinner that a bank gave me for opening up a savings account. The bank gave you a salad spinner? You know what they used to give you shit? And I was like, I'm holding onto this forever. I love it. I mean, it was disgusting what we saved. It's crazy when you realize like there was a time when I thought this was indispensable. Like I don't know, some like, I think you and I are like this. I don't know. Did you ever have as like,

a person doing theater a long time ago, like a bag of props, like a bag of wigs and stuff. Of your own props? Like, so we did sketch comedy. We kind of came up doing that while he was doing Famously. But like back in the day, like I would have, I would be the keeper of the props for our sketch group. And so I had everything. You wanted to be a doctor? I got it. I got you if you want to be a lawyer. Wait, that's so fun. If you want to be a redhead, what length? What style do you want? I have all different kinds. And so now it's like,

I don't have anything anymore because I gave them, I think I gave them all up. That's okay. And I do feel a little like naked without my bag of props because one thing I had for years was my endless bag of props. But it would just be sitting there. It would be like the salad spinner. It's like- But did you have one of those noise things where it would be like people clapping? Oh yeah. Hearts nonstop. Oh. Horns going off. Yeah, I mean like- Car alarm. All of it. Yeah, I love that. You know how many whistles I had from playing coaches? Oh.

I'm made of whistles, babe. Honey, I was almost like, I don't know why I had so many whistles. I had so many to the point where I actually- I love how many coaches you've played. You keep that shit because it's like, and then, oh, then I took the whistle and I put it on my keys. I was like, what if? What if? That's good to have. Even if you're a man, even if for anyone, have the whistle. Have the whistle. But then like, but like, how do you feel about your kids stuff? Like, cause now you gotta like,

you're like, there's residue from like the kids. Yes. Well, I know they used to think I was Gaslight City because I would just throw shit away that I, that to me was just a, you know, a ball of tinfoil. And they would be like, where's my ball of tinfoil? Yes. And so I had to be like, okay, they just need to,

It's hard for me, though, because I like a clean space. I just have to keep my space clean and just keep their doors closed. So did you have preteen children during the pandemic? Yeah. Yeah, it was hard. It was hard to start. And they both were kind of starting. My daughter was graduating like her elementary school, which is so hard. And my like they had a drive through graduation. My son was in.

He was in middle school, which was sucked. So it was like I would go in and check on him. And the like school screen was all every kid was in the darkest room. Like you couldn't see their faces because who wants to be like seen at that age that intensely by your classmates? Yeah. Wow. I know it's a very depressing time to be a kid.

Yeah, especially it's kind of a depressing hard time anyway. Anyway, for anyone. I don't think anyone is the great version of themselves at 12, 13, 14, 15. No, but then to think that that's just in their bones, like that that happened. Yeah. We were so paranoid and scared for so long. Of course. I think that's why I really, like I remember when Billie Eilish like really popped off. Yes. I was like, I was looking at it like a millennial being like,

On face value, like, I don't necessarily understand. But then you really think about it and you're like, of course. Like, A, she's a genius, which I think you didn't get when you first saw her when she came out. She is a genius. Yes. But the way she was speaking to, like, the people of her generation, you're like, of course that's, like, the person that they're going to look up to and the way they feel. I love the Smiths. Yeah. For that reason, it was like, ah, I wear black on the outside because black is what I feel I need. Yeah. Wow.

That's you latch on. Yeah. But that was like that music also was kind of that dark energy of like,

Yeah. That you needed to tap into as a kid. Like, there's something that was like, mm-hmm. Yeah. I'm not alone. Yeah. So you're saying Smiths came to you as, like, a kid and, like, that was, like... I mean, I think same age. Like, it was, like, around that awesome era of music. It was such a beautiful... Yeah. So it must have been, like, 14, 15. Mm-hmm.

Yeah. Techno and Morrissey. You know, it's really cool. Like the VMAs were last night. They were? They'll be a week ago. Yeah. So they were last night. And what's cool about it is for the very first time in like a few years, I don't know if this speaks to whatever time we're in, because it is obviously a very difficult political time, but there's a lot of really cool artists out right now. Like, again, I was at Coachella and I left that music festival being like, music's in a really cool, good place. And then even watching that, like very sort of like corporate mainstream organization

award show is like you watch it and you're like, there's like really cool artists across genre. And it makes you feel like,

you know, pop music is very queer right now. Like, you know, the way that Chapel Rome like speaks to people is like incredible. Her music's amazing. Oh, she's so great. But just like, it makes you feel like kids or people that are forming now a musical identity are in good hands, at least in that art form when it feels like film and TV is sometimes hard nowadays. Yes. Music is feeling like it's in a good place. Pretty amazing though. Like my daughter, who's 15, but like even starting at 13, like,

she would correct me. Like she, she knows so much more than I did or that I like she's,

In terms of like speaking gender, speaking like she, it's pretty amazing. It's not that you didn't have that background either because just Catholic school. Well, I'm saying like, just in terms of like the projects you've been on where it's like, Oh yeah, no, definitely. But like, I didn't, I would always be like, Hey guys, Hey guys. Like, that's what I, you guys come on. And she was, and she likes, I'm not as like strict as her on this department, but she's like, don't say guys. Yeah. Yeah. Sure. Folks both feel like specifically like,

in a way that I cannot ascribe to personally because I'm like, I'm not from these places. Y'all kind of started flying out of my mouth because of my exposure to Kelly Clarkson on the television. So being 12 and 13 years old and being like, y'all, y'all, y'all. I was saying y'all at school and they were like, why are you doing that? Yeah. And I was like, oh, I don't know. And they were like, I bet it's because he likes Kelly Clarkson. Gay. And I was just like, ah! They connected the dots? Yeah. No.

Middle school bullies can find your weakness and just easier than anyone else. Sharks have nothing on middle school kids. Yeah, they're vicious. They are. Especially the girls. Oh, the girls. I know. Mean. Some of them. Some of them are sweethearts.

We were saying the other day, like we were talking about Regina George, like the character Regina George in Mean Girls. And how iconic like Rachel McAdams is doing it. But unfortunately, she did it so well that it did make. Gave a model for people. Yeah. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, I know. It's kind of picked up a lot from that.

from that. Yeah. Like the way she was mean and it was so cool and funny and influential. It's like, oh my God, I love that bracelet. It's like that. I love that. Yeah. I love that bracelet. I love that for you. Yeah. And then it's like, it's, there's something so dark underneath that. Yes. Oh yeah. And you have to be like, thanks. Cause she's cool. But then inside you're like, I, why do I feel like shit? Violated. Yeah. I love that bracelet. Where did you get it? Oh, just, you know, Claire's. That's really cool.

Thanks. And like, it's just sort of like that. And then you're like, let me think about that for weeks. Why do I feel like I was just, like, talking about spells. Yeah. Now I won't stop thinking about it. The true witches. The true witches. Middle school girls. Middle school.

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- I think it's time for "I Don't Think So Honey." - Okay, okay, okay, okay. - So we are gonna do our segment here where we take 60 seconds to truly rail against something in culture that needs a railing. I have something and I feel it's something in the culture we haven't yet spoken on. - Really? - Yeah. - Okay. - I used to feel complicated about it and now I feel definitive about it. - Okay, here we go. - This is really, really important. This is Matt Rogers. I don't think so many times starts now. - I don't think so honey the discourse around the screen after you buy something that says to tip.

Guys, if you don't want to tip because you bought a water bottle, just hit 0%. I am not behind you in the line judging you for anything unless the person has done a service where they deserve to be tipped. I personally always hit tip because I was in the service industry for 10 years. I think about the pandemic when people did not have those jobs for one and a half to three years, depending. I do that. I tip 30.

30 seconds. That doesn't mean I think I'm fucking better than you. And this discourse around, well, they shouldn't have the screen that asks for a tip because I feel bad. What if someone's looking over my shoulder? My God, that is so much more embarrassing talking about that and about how, well, I shouldn't have to tip. Then it would be for me to be behind you and see that you didn't tip.

It is so much more humiliating to talk about how upset you are that you're being asked to tip someone. Five seconds. And they discuss this on America's biggest horror podcast, The Daily, and I hate it every second of it. That's one minute. They did talk about it. Sabrina's having easy. Don't tip if you don't want to tip. I know. Why would I?

Is that a big deal? Because people feel like they're being like manipulated. But I have to tell you, when you're being asked a question, would you like to tip or not? That's not manipulation. No. It's a question. It's a question. And it's an opportunity for you to give gratuity to someone who probably is making a lot less than you make. Because didn't.

the pay go down? Like they actually need tips to supplement their salary. Well, there was this whole episode of The Daily that I listened to and I was shaking my head the whole time because I realized that not everyone, if you really don't work in the service industry, you actually don't know. So let me just say, if you're

Unsure of it, like service workers make their money on tips. Like that is just period. So if you're going into a restaurant and you're thinking like, oh, well, my Coke was late or my this was a little bit too cold or whatever the fuck. If you're like, I'm not going to tip.

you are contributing to that person just not making money. So if that's going to sit well in your spirit, like I'm not tipping because of this, like fine, whatever, whatever makes you sleep at night. But that's totally different than this thing with the screen. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because it's like, it's not, I swear to God, I don't know how you guys feel or anyone feels. I'm never behind someone when they buy a salad at Fresh & Co and looking and being like, well, are you going to tip?

That's not something like, if you want to, great. If you don't, I'm not upset with you. I'm not going to tap you on the shoulder and be like, hey, I thought that was really lame. It's in your own head. Talk to your therapist about it. Don't talk to me about it. It's really simple, actually, because it's just...

The convergence of two things, which is one, like tipping is part of transactional things in our society. And then the other thing is like, now we have like, we media everything through a screen. And so like, you're just going to be asked, do you want to tip? And that's okay. No one's, it's literally no gun to your head. Right. And people act like there is. And I think it's this, it just, it's like speaks to something else, which is that person on the other end. It's a little bit telling on yourself. It is. Because you're like,

well, they didn't do anything to deserve that. It's like, first of all, who are you to decide what they do and do not deserve to begin with? And also it wasn't like the person asked you, like, would you like to tip me? It's a thing on the screen. I just don't like it. It feels very elitist to me and superior. And also primarily extremely uncool to be like really in the weeds about like this thing on the screen. It's like just hit 0% or hit no. Yes. Just do that.

Yeah, that's a good, that is a good one. We got to the bottom of it. Yeah, we did. We decided. Okay, no, we decided. Yeah. So this is Bo and Yang's I Don't Think So Honey. I have a weird one. I think it's important. Okay. It's important. Okay. This is Bo and Yang's weird, but important I Don't Think So Honey. This time starts now. I don't think so honey glass, like if it breaks, like,

That's bad. So bad. And like, it is like, like I'm looking at a window right now. Like anyone could just break that open and like hurt someone or hurt themselves. Like, should everything be lucite now? I'm thinking like, should we, surely there is something cost effective, environmentally, not terrible that it can be glass. That is not shatterable unless there is some emergency protocol thing. But do you agree with me?

Right? Like we have no need for glass in the way that we used to, unless there's like an artful aspect to it. Like there's a medium, like you're blowing it and you're making a beautiful vase. Then it's acceptable. That's acceptable. But if it's a window or if it's like a drink, if it's drinkware, if it's stemware. Yeah. I think that's scary. I think about Kill Bill Volume 1 when Vivica Fox is telling her daughter to not walk in the living room because she might cut herself.

I think about that all the time. Like you can cut yourself. And that's one minute to say nothing of the insane, very jarring sound of glass breaking. It's really scary. It's heartbreaking. I know. It was like, if someone forgot, they could just walk through this wall. Right. It can be so painful. It,

It is painful. I did that at the store, The Row, a fancy store. You did that at The Row? No. Because it's at this fancy location in LA. Where the glass is so clean. The glass is so clean and it's so thick. And I couldn't buy anything. Everything was so fucking crazy expensive. It's so expensive. I love their clothes, but they're so expensive. And as I was leaving, I tried to leave with like a joke. Because I wasted everything.

Like I was like, just trying to get out there like, well, I'm not buying anything I tried on, but you know, whatever. So I was like, so dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah. And then it was hard that they had to take me, sit me down, offer me water in- - Glass! - It was a tray. - A glass tray? - It was a- - No, no, no, no, no. - But it was a tray with a glass on it. - You said, "Get that away from me, it's my enemy." - And then I was like, "No!" And I smashed it down.

And I cut my finger. No, it was. And then it was a glass bottle of water. And I really enjoyed it. Yeah. While they were looking at my nose, trying to make sure I didn't break it. And I was like, I don't know if I did or not. It's just what it is. Also, are you superstitious? Yes. Why? You know what happens if you break a mirror? Of course. What? Seven years of bad luck.

I'm very superstitious. That's the most I heard about hats or shoes on the bed. That's also really bad. In fact, I feel I do it all the time. I'm like, I shouldn't have done that. Oh, God, no. You have shoes have to be on the ground at all times. If shoes are ever put on a table or something higher off the ground. Yes. No, that's really bad luck. No, no, no. My mother did this to me. I can't. Mine too. Yeah. And hats on the bed.

I've never heard hats on the bed. But now I do. You know what I can't do ever? If I sleep with socks on. When I was a kid, they told me that if you sleep with socks on, the boogeyman will come out of the closet and get you. And so now to this day, I don't do it.

That feels like an agenda by your parents. It's very random. Right? Why didn't they want you to wear socks? I think what it was, was my mom's like demon brother when she was younger, my uncle told her like, if you wear your socks, like the boogeyman is going to come out. She is a weeb. And terrified her. And then she told me that when I was a kid, not prescriptively, just like this is what your uncle told me. And then I was like, now I can't do it.

Walking under a ladder. It's a huge no. Walking under a ladder. Yes, you're right. There's also, well, I wouldn't say black cat. Oh, no, black cats. I go the other way. I don't fuck with that. Black cats are good luck. They're sweet. They're the least adopted animals in a shelter because everyone thinks the same thing. Because they're cursed. Because they are witches familiars. But you know what? They are adorable. They're wonderful. They're just the same. For someone else.

You're just too scared to even be like, I just, I can't. It's at this point now, it's like, it's a core belief. It's a core belief. Then you're like, I'm done. No, I will go the other way. I will inconvenience myself.

I'm not kidding. Okay. It's like, it's a thing. Okay. You're not, you're not, well, my favorite line ever. I'm not superstitious, but I am a little stitious from the office. You're a little stitious. I'm a little stitious. A little stitious. A Nova Scotia stitious. Nova Scotia stitious. Did you say a Nova Scotia? No. Oh, I always,

say that for like a little bit. A Nova Scotia? Just a Nova Scotia. Oh, that's really good. That's Major Lazer. That's Major Lazer. Major Lazer? When something's major, we say that's Major Lazer, like the artists, like Diplo. Yes. Fantastic. Fantastic. Okay, so we're under the impression that you have something. I do. I don't know if it's been done. I feel like it's been done.

I feel like it's been done before. It doesn't matter. It's okay. This is Catherine Hans. I don't think so, honey. Okay. Time starts now. Honeys, I don't think that anyone under the age of 25 needs to get a butt implant. Oh! I just don't think so. Speak on it. I think if you are blessed enough to have a long, long life...

No one really knows where they're going to fall. Yeah. And the upkeep they're going to need for that butt. Yeah. They're also just, who knows if that, it is a fad. Yeah.

Yeah. We don't know if everybody's going to need an ass that big. No. You know, things come and go. Right. The images of what a person is supposed to look like come and go. We remember Kate Moss. That could be a thing again. She did not have a bubble butt beyond bubble butts.

And also, I feel like you can tell now. I mean, you obviously can tell. Yeah. I can't. But I think you can. Okay. But I do feel like because that is also the anyway, that's always the thing.

Okay. Go on, though. Honey. Honey. I think also because that only leads, that opens the door to more and more. Yes. And you're so young and beautiful. And then the cheeks and everything, like it just becomes a money cyclone.

Cypher. You save that money, honey. Save it, honey. I would agree. Save it until you feel like you really need it and you're like fully formed. Like you're still a zygote. Zygote. Oh my God. Yes. Zygotic. I use zygote every day of my life. He loves zygote. I love that word. Blastula? Do you say blastula? I don't, but I might have a blastula. Isn't it when...

Blastula is like the first myosin. When it starts to grow a bit. Okay, blastula. Blastula is like pre-zygote almost. Oh God, I love it. It gets fertilized and then blastula, I think. Oh my God, we were all blastulas. We were all blastulas at one point. Did you know this? Pre-med in college. Oh my God, I did not. I have some things I need you to diagnose. It's useless.

I thought I had a blastula on my inner thigh. Maybe you're going to have to check it out. I'll check for any blastulas on you. So honey, I don't think so. Okay. Are you observing? I have some questions. Are you observing that people under 25 are getting the surgery? Yes. Really? Okay. Damn, I'm not paying attention. I know. Second of all. Maybe that's regional though. No, no, no, no. Who knows? It,

Definitely. Yeah, I think so. I mean, yeah. Yeah, I haven't seen it here. It literally is upkeep because you got to keep it up. You have to keep it up. I'm like, do they have like a sling that they wear to keep it up at night? What's crazy is it's like a girdle for your ass. Now you can do the injections in it too. It's like the BBL. The BBL. What's that? Butt lift. Oh, right. Yeah. And also it's like when you're that injured,

like you still have like a high and tight ass. Like you don't need. No, I know. You still have access to the class and staying healthy. Yeah. I think there's like a, there's like a weird, like I don't have to do anything now, but then it's like, Ooh, that's what, what's that teaching you? What's like, you know, you're just going to find the shortcut to everything. To everything. And then you'll go on a Zen pick and then it'll just be an ass walking around. Yeah.

- One big ass, bones and an ass. - Yeah. - And ass and teeth. - Ass and teeth. - And you can tell? - I can. - Okay. - Because they are, I mean, I think if they're good,

I wouldn't know. But if they're not, it's so absurd. It's like Jessica Rabbit. You know what I mean? You're just like... It's like intense. If you say anything has collagen in it, it's like earlier when I said what it left here, I'm like, well, I need collagen. I'm losing it by the minute. But have you seen their blood one? No.

- Oh wait, is that the Bella Hadid one? 'Cause now Bella Hadid has one. - No, this is a special doctor one who literally is like, it's like a heart, you know, blood of a cow.

You know, like bone marrow. You got to look it up. And then they like make it into a smoothie and you're like, ooh. Blood and organs. Blood and organs. This must be good. Nothing like blood and organs smoothie on a hot day. You know what? I'll try it. Just after a long Uber drive. And you know, I have to say...

Speaking of, today's a hot day. We all needed some relief. We came in here. Oh, I'm relieved. We all touched. We reached Nirvana today. Having you here on this show. I do feel like it. The coven was completed today. This is a coven right here that I felt like I got to...

And we're including everyone. Also, look what we're doing. There we go. Oh, yeah. I'm sorry. My diamond ring that's not mine. What is it? No, it's got a couple diamonds in it. It's gorgeous. Oh, thanks. What are you doing the rest of the day? You're going to this show later. I'm going to this show later. You have more press? And now I have a little... And then Sardi's. Yeah. Oh, and I'm doing...

- Seth Meyers. - Oh my God. - Which will be really fun. - We said hello. - I will. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, we love him. - He's a peach. - Oh God, the legend. - I totally will. - No, we love him. He's the best in the biz. - He's the sweetie. Yeah, yeah, yeah. - You're going there now. - I'm gonna go there now. - Y'all can share a car to 30 Rock. - No, no, no, no, no, don't worry about me. I have to go and just hole up in an office just to like get on a Zoom. It's not that cheap. - 30 Rock stuff. - Wait, are we in 30 Rock right now?

I don't know what the fuck is happening. - No, but we are in mind. - Where am I? - We're close. - Who am I? - Who are you? - You're Katherine Hahn. - Okay, thank you. - And who you are is the fucking best and the star of "Agatha O'Long", which by the way, I'll say again, is so much fun. Congratulations on it because- - Thank you, that was a great segue. - No, I know, right? I'm back. - He's back.

But the bar had to be high because everyone loved WandaVision so much and just know that like all the joy and all the like fun and intrigue and suspense and coolness. It's gonna get

I can't wait. I'm going to go back and watch the, because we have four, so I'm going to watch the next two and then be so annoyed when I ruined it for myself because then they don't, the fifth and sixth ones won't come out until later. Oh yes, a couple weeks later, but it's worth. It feels like an amazing sequel to WandaVision in a way, but yet it's still its own thing. Yes, but its own bird completely. Yeah. But like the, it's the same writer who's incredible. Yeah, Jack Schaefer. Yes. She's amazing.

Amazing. That brain. It's so clear you're number one on the call sheet and that you've like made this such a special project for everybody. No, I'm just saying like, that is a huge important thing and thank you so much for being here. Oh, you guys, I was so looking forward to this and it disappointed me. Yes, of course. But that's all right. That's all right. We wheel you out. We bring him in for the last one minute. Well, that sucked. No, this was so fucking fun. Disney Plus, everybody. And we end every episode with a song. Oh,

I guess it's been all along. You guys, also, that was beautiful. And your voices, really. Cut the cameras. Cut the cameras. Thank you so much.

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