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The Rise and Fall of Ruby Franke | Truth and Distortion | 8

2024/6/24
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The Rise and Fall of Ruby Franke

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Jodi Hildebrandt
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Kevin Franke
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Paula Barros
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Ruby Franke
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@Ruby Franke 对自己的行为表示深深的悔恨,承认自己受到了错误的引导,并愿意为自己的罪行承担责任,她详细描述了自己是如何陷入扭曲的现实认知中,并最终做出伤害孩子的行为。她对自己的家人和社区表达了歉意,并表示愿意接受任何必要的惩罚来帮助他们疗伤。 @Jodi Hildebrandt 则在法庭上表现得较为冷漠,她的陈述简短而缺乏真挚的悔恨,这与Ruby Franke形成了鲜明对比。她表示自己深爱孩子,希望他们能够康复,并愿意接受法院的判决。 @法官John Walton 在判决中严厉谴责了Ruby Franke和Jodi Hildebrandt的行为,认为她们的行为是恐怖主义行为,对儿童造成了严重的身心伤害。他认为她们的行为严重违反了社会道德和法律规范,因此判处她们入狱。 检方代表@Eric Clark 详细描述了Ruby Franke对孩子的虐待行为,并指出如果孩子没有逃脱,后果不堪设想。他建议对Ruby Franke判处累积刑期。 @Paula Barros 指出社会对虐待的理解不足,导致Ruby的虐待行为持续时间过长,最终酿成悲剧。 @Brian Schnee 对Ruby和Jodi在法庭上的表现进行了对比,他认为Ruby表现出了真挚的悔恨,而Jodi则缺乏真挚的悔恨。 @Jeremy Diaz 认为Ruby Franke表现出了真挚的悔恨,并正在努力弥补自己的错误,而Jodi Hildebrandt需要付出更多努力来展现她的悔恨,并承担责任。 @Katie Morton 不相信Ruby Franke的道歉是真心的,认为这只是为了自保。 @Kevin Franke 认为Jodi Hildebrandt作为一名持牌心理咨询师,却越过职业道德界限,导致他的家庭破裂,孩子们遭受虐待,他呼吁加强对生活教练的监管。 @Randy Kester 表示Kevin Franke目前专注于与子女团聚,并保持低调,避免对家庭成员造成进一步伤害。 @Sherry Botwin 认为儿童保护服务机构(CPS)在调查家庭虐待案件时,需要花费更多的时间在家庭中进行观察,才能有效发现问题,她还指出网络视频公开孩子的生活是一种虐待儿童的行为。 @Dr. Kirk Honda 推测,Ruby Franke可能因为对现代育儿方式的抵触,而更容易受到Jodi Hildebrandt的极端育儿理念的影响。 @Isaiah 认为Ruby Franke的行为可能与米尔格拉姆实验中所揭示的服从权威的现象有关,Jodi Hildebrandt利用了治疗师的权威地位来影响Ruby。

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Nearly 6 months after Ruby and Jodi were arrested and charged with four counts of aggravated child abuse, the two finally face sentencing. We learn how much time each woman could spend in prison, hear from mental health professionals about how the Franke children can heal, and explore ethical questions surrounding family vlogging.

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A note from our Executive Producer: This episode was intended to be the final episode of The Rise and Fall of Ruby Franke. However, in the early morning hours of Friday, March 22nd, 2024, as we were putting the final touches on this episode, the Washington County Attorney’s Office in Utah released police reports, body cam footage, investigative photos, and interviews as well as portions of Ruby Franke and Jodi Hildebrandt’s recorded phone calls made from the Washington County Correctional Facility. The Law&Crime team is carefully reviewing all the materials and we’ll be back with a deep-dive bonus episode on April 8th exclusively on Wondery+. We thank you for your patience.

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