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Man, what's happening, man? You got Marshawn, Beast Mode, Lynch. Doug Hendrickson. And Gavin Newsom, and you're listening to Politicking. Jules on the beat. Jules on the beat.

Hey, Doug, come on, man. We're 80s and 90s kids. Did it get bigger than Public Enemy? Never got bigger than that. I grew up on hip-hop, and we got a member of Hip-Hop Royalty Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, one of the best icons of all time. Flavor! More soul!

Hey, man. Talk to him. Tell him about it. What's happening, man? Man, loving you, bro. Word up. Missing you, man. How you doing, champion? What's up, queen? What's up, G? What's going on, champion? Yeah.

- Yeah, man, shit. Tryna be like you when I get older, you understand me? - Hey, come on, man, listen to me. I'm trying to be like you when I get older, man, listen, man. - I know you done seen them bite your style, man. They got the, what is it, the 20 V1 where they bring in the 20 women and they all holla at the one. I say, man, damn, that's insane. I say, man, they did that shit like 30 years ago, God.

Yo, and everybody's still talking about that shit like I did it last month, man. Man, that shit, it seemed like that shit just happened yesterday. Hey, well, Flav, this is Doug. We want to welcome myself and the governor of Bismo to Politickin'.

Hey, you are a hip-hop royalty, okay? One of the best bands of all time, public enemy. A reality TV icon. You are a Olympic guru. You're a girl dad. You're a Taylor Swift fan. We love you, man. We appreciate you being on the show, and we can't thank you enough for joining us, man. Thank you, man. Thank you, and thank y'all for having me, man.

And one of the things he couldn't say, and you were real, man. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, no. We have editing capacity. We could still edit. By the way, you're back from Paris or what? You're still hanging out next to pools, huh?

No, I'm at the crib right now, man. I keep a pool at the crib. You know what I'm saying? It's hot out here, man. So, you know, you got always got to always keep a pool at the crib, man. You know what I mean? Yeah. How was it? So how was the Olympics? How was how was the women's water polo? And how the hell did you get involved with water polo? Well, well, it all started. It all started with with the captain, Maggie Steffens. You know what I'm saying? She put out a story.

You know what I'm saying? And my manager turned me on to the story. You know what I'm saying? And, you know, she said, Flay, what you think about this? I said, you know what? I said, let me step up to the plate, man. You know what I'm saying? And let me see if I can help these girls out. You know what I'm saying? Let me tell you something, man. When the girls ain't out there competing,

Well, I mean, when the girls ain't out there competing, they're home. You know what I'm saying? Working two and three jobs. You know what I'm saying? Living active lives. You know what I'm saying? You don't make money in the Olympics.

You know what I'm saying? So when they're out there competing, it's taking them away from their jobs and all of that stuff. You know what I'm saying? So I said, let me see if I can help give these girls a boost. You know what I'm saying? They got three back-to-back gold medals right now, which is amazing. And no other water polo team has achieved that right now. So I said, let me see if I can push them into getting that fourth gold medal.

You know what I'm saying? So that was my purpose, man, of stepping in, man, and sponsoring the water polo team. You know what I'm saying? And that's why I was out there in Paris, man. I mean, you know, anytime that I ever seen the Olympics, it was always on television.

Well, with Flav, who would have thought back in the 90s you and Snoop would be the two faces of the Olympics, man? Who would have thought that? Hey, I know one thing. I never would have thought that. Right now. I mean, you know, like I was saying, you know, being that, you know, anytime I ever seen Olympics, it was always on television. So for me to be there in the actual moment, man,

Oh, my God. It was so amazing, man. It was. Yeah. Yeah. The experience was amazing, man. You know, what was it? What was it? What was it about the experience that surprised you? I mean, it was just what just it was the sense of patriotism teams. I mean, just the energy. What was it?

But energy-wise, man, mainly energy-wise, you know what I'm saying? Because to me, it was like a dream come true, man. It's like, wow, I'm finally here, and I'm finally getting to really experience and see this in real life with my own eyes and being in that moment. You know what I'm saying? I mean, I ain't going to lie, man. The Super Bowl, it's exciting going to the Super Bowl, but this was a little bit more exciting. Straight up? Yeah.

Yeah, straight up no chaser, man. You know what I'm saying? All right, well, see, since you put it like that, I'm going to have me a straight-laced no chaser. You understand me? Hey, my guy, you know what I'm saying? Get it in. Get in. Hey, man, you got to, man. But damn, that's big. And you know what, man? I wish I could have been there. Because, man, it look like y'all motherfuckers out there just having straight fun.

It was fun though, the whole time, every time. You know what I mean? You popped up, looked like a motherfucker was just enjoying herself to the fullest though. - I was, I was Marshawn, you know? And I had my family out there, my girlfriend and the kids, you know what I'm saying? I mean, you know, we had a good time, man. I wanted them to get to share this experience with me for the first time ever.

What was the best venue out there? Besides the water polo and all that, I mean, track and field, obviously. I mean, Women's Beach Volleyball looked like an incredible venue. What was the best venue you went to? Here you go, Doug. I mean, well, for me, you know what I'm saying? Besides the track and field, you know, I got to go to the women's rugby game, and I watched them win their bronze, you know what I'm saying? And then right after the game, then the whole team,

came up to the suite to come meet Flay. You know what I'm saying? And one of the girls, the one that scored that last touchdown, the speedster, I forgot her name, he let me try on her gold medal.

You know what I'm saying? I'm about to ask you, is that one you got around your neck right now? Oh, nah, man. This right here is Rock and Stones, man. You know me. Yeah, man. You know what I'm talking about, man? Talk that shit. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, you know how I get down. You know what I'm saying? But also, another exciting moment for me, Marshawn, I got to go over to the gymnastics spot.

And I got to see Simone Biles win her gold medal. You know what I'm saying? And to see her look. And as she was walking to go get the medal, I yelled out real loud. I said, Simone! And she looked up at me and she waved. Yeah. Straight up.

I love celebrities having crushes on other celebrities like that. I appreciate that. Let me take you way back and get your opinion. We talk all about time, about a life and different twists and turns and whatnot in regards to which way you could go. I know back in your day, you dropped out of high school, right? And you ran into some trouble a little bit with the law.

And, and all of a sudden then you went to culinary school, I believe. Right. And then you met, you met Chuck D and then from meeting Chuck D, everything kind of went on to public enemy fame and whatnot. So isn't it crazy looking back in those days that, you know, one wrong turn, or if you didn't get in trouble and you didn't go to culinary school, you may never met Chuck. You may never be where you're at today. So isn't it crazy looking back those 30, 40, 50 years ago and thinking, my God, like where, what,

Look what happened to my life on a couple of these turns I took. Hey, well, let me tell you like this, man. You know, every day is going to always be a life learning lesson, man. You know what I'm saying? And the past is responsible for our future. You know what I'm saying? And I thank God that he let me get through a lot of the things in my past so that way I can have this bright future right now that I got.

You know what I'm saying? And the only thing right now that we got to look forward to is everything that's in front of us. You know what I'm saying? Everything that's in back of us. Hey, we can't look forward to that because it's in back of us. You know what I'm saying? So I just thank God for the blessings, man, that he gave me from then all the way up until right now as I'm on the phone with you guys.

And what is it about? I mean, you've always had this connection, I mean, by definition with time is I mean, was that I mean, in that, you know, yesterday's dead last, you know, whatever happened, you know, that's that that's that that's the end of this notion. You know, we've got a limited amount of time, but it's not that we have a limited amount of time. It's that we waste so much of it.

But obviously, symbolically and substantively, you've always had that relationship or at least that deeper understanding. Where the hell did that come from? Well, honestly...

It came from God to me. You know what I'm saying? You know, when I started wearing this cloth, you know what I'm saying? A lot of people was asking me the reason why. So I made up my own significance. You know what I'm saying? And time is the most important element that we have in our life. We can't afford to waste none of it. And as the minute hand goes around, we have to use each second to our best value. You know, time brought us in. And yes, time is going to take us out.

And I always be saying, I'm clocking, I'm clocking. That means I'm paying attention. So you can't get fast on me because I know what time it is. The best part of football season, checking out the postgame stats. Which wideout scored more than two TDs? Which QBs threw for less than 350 yards? Think you can pick who will do what before kickoff? Then play Pick 6 from DraftKings, an official daily fantasy partner of the NFL.

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And that is a kid in the 70s. That scares me. Any reference to The Exorcist. By the way, that's a very scary movie. You know what scares me, Gavin? What does? You and I walked up the Bay Bridge and you told me we're going to walk the bridge. And instead of walking the bridge, we walked up.

the bridge of the big pillars all the way to the sky in the fog. And I was so terrified. I had a panic attack and could barely come down. While you thought this was the best day of your life, it was the worst day of my life. A thousand feet above the water.

Cars hundreds of feet below you rushing by and watching that blood flow. And you just gripping the white of your knuckles, gripping those two bars, saying, when the hell are we getting down this thing? Well, all I wish is I knew back then is that BetterHelp would be something totally online. And it would be designed to be convenient, flexible, and suited to my schedule. Even though I was up in the middle of the air, I wish I came down and got to BetterHelp.

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You know, you do yours with the ice and some more shit. I had no idea, but I went ahead and I put that motherfucking clock right there. That time, if you can see it right there, that's the infinite time. Like, you know what I mean? I thought about it from a situation where, you know what I mean? Life goes, time, you know what? Life stops. You know what I mean? That's right. At the end of the day, all our life, it stops. But time, that shit continues. That's right.

And this is a continuous clock that I got here on my neck to remind me of that. So while I'm here, you feel me though? I try to maximize, you know what I mean? Every minute to every second to every hour that I have to the maximum capacity that I have in it. And I try to live that motherfucker to the fullest.

And I ain't know. You know what I mean? It's crazy that you know you right here in front of me, even though you feel me, though. Man, Spook, I appreciate you, Spook, for, you know what I mean, the introduction and putting me, you know what I mean, in contact with you. But now that I think about it and I see the resemblance and the motherfucking same, the brain wavelengths and, you know what I mean, how I know.

on that same type of time though like man motherfucker really appreciate you for that big dog thank you man thank you man hey and speaking of spook i just had spook with me day before yesterday man you already know man spook keep it lit man i man shout out spook man for putting the cut out to my boy jalen reese number 30 number 30 keep it dirty my dude you

Straight up, man. Since Marshawn's my son, I call him my son. Hey, baby boy. He's a little younger than me and Gavin. Take me back to those heydays, Flav. I never forget. 1988,

I'm working security at Shoreline and you're there with public enemy. And it was it was fight the power stuff going on. And I got to admit, I took my I was wearing security jacket, a yellow jacket. I took that fucking thing off and said, I'm taking this thing off because I loved your music, love what you guys are all about. But I said, I didn't put this thing away and enjoy the crowd. That was the first time Doug was fired the first time. Yeah, I quit.

But take me back to those heydays, man, of hip-hop back in the day, man. What's your thought? Going back to there, and that ought to be incredible. Well, let me tell you like this, man. You know what I'm saying?

You know, it all started, man, really, you know, when we first started out, you know what I'm saying, as mobile disc jockeys, you know what I'm saying? Myself, my partner Chuck D, Hank Shockley, Keith Shockley, you know what I'm saying? You know, we all started out as mobile disc jockeys and the name of our group was called Spectrum City.

You know what I'm saying? And then we ended up doing radio. We ended up doing radio over at Adelphi University because my boy Chuck D and also my boy Bill Stephanie was going to Adelphi around the time. You know what I'm saying? So they ended up getting me a radio show. You know what I'm saying? They ended up getting me a radio show on WBAU 90.3 FM from Adelphi.

And also, you know, we used to have the Mixer Hour and One Half up there. And all the celebs, man, used to come by our show, man. LL, you had Run and them coming by the show. You had that motherfucker lit then. Also, back in the day...

You know, the fat boys, we gave them one of their first interview radio interviews, too, when they first came out. You know what I mean? So check this out. Let me tell you all a story. I got to tell you all a story because y'all want me to take you back there. So I'm going to take you back there. Please. So one day I go up to the studio, 510 South Franklin. That's where our studio was. Right. So as I'm getting ready to walk into the studio, I heard I'm like.

What the hell is Chuck doing in here, man? You know what I'm saying? I walked in the studio back in the days. We had the cassette tapes. I remember the cassette tapes, right? So my boy Chuck D had the cassette tape coming out of the deck, going around a microphone stand back into the cassette deck. Ladies and gentlemen, I got to tell you right now, that was called the first loop.

So anyway, so I told him this story. I told him this story about when I was on my way up to the studio. You know, I ran into this guy named Ron D. Whaley from the Play Hard crew. He's like, yo, man, what's up with your boy Chuck D? I want to battle him, man. I'm like, well, Chuck don't battle. We don't. But, you know, we can set you up for battle. But he said, yo, your boy Chuck, man, he's way nice.

I said, yo, man, my boy don't swear he nice. My boy knows he's nice, you know? So Chuck said, yo, yo, put that story right here on the beginning of this tape right now. So then that's when I said,

Yo, Chuck, bust a move, man. I was on my way up here to the studio, you know what I'm saying? And this brother stopped me and asked me, yo, what's up with your boy Chuck E.D.? He swear he nice. I said, yo, he don't swear he nice. He knows he's nice. You know what I'm saying? So, Chuck, I got a feeling you're turning into a public enemy. Now, remember that line you was kicking to me on the way out to L.A., Lawrence and Queens? You was in the car on the way to the shop. But right now, kick

the bass for them brothers and let them know what goes on. The Chuck D says, what goes on? Well, I'm all in. Put it up on the board. Another rapper shot down from the mouth that road. One, two, three. Down for the count. The reason to my lyrics. Oh, yes. No doubt. And y'all, we made that tape for our radio show, right? For B.A.U.

So the tape got kind of hot and popular, you know what I'm saying? So one night, DMC and Jam Master Jay comes up to the radio station looking for Chuck.

So I ended up taking them over to the studio to talk to Chuck. And they wanted to talk to Chuck about taking Public Enemy number one and putting it on Def Jam Records. So at that time, Def Jam Records still wasn't doing all that great because they had just started. You know what I'm saying? So Chuck is like, nah, I'm just having fun doing radio right now, man. I don't want to do no records, this and that, that and this. Then the next year,

We went down to Def Jam Records and Russell and Rick Rubin, right? Russell and Rick Rubin. We went to sign and all they wanted was Chuck. They didn't want me. You know what I'm saying? So Chuck was like, hey, yo, check this out. If he's not part of this, it ain't going to work because the only way this is working right now is with him. You know what I'm saying? It's in that. So it was Chuck D.

That forced me down Def Jam's throat. You know what I'm saying? And when he did that, I ain't gonna lie, but it's one of the best things I could...

ever happened for death jail public enemy was born 19 1986 that's when i was born so you know i mean it some great had the destiny about that motherfucker so that great moment that you just you know i mean painted the picture for everybody to see that's when the motherfucking beast mode was born you understand me i was just getting out of high school with doug jesus

He said he just got out of high school. The hell is that? Damn, my boy. You know what I mean? I mean, you OG, my boy. That's what they call that. Yeah, that was 19. That was 1986, man. We put that record out, man. You know what I'm saying? And then when I came out with that phrase, yeah, boy. Hey, man. Check this out. That phrase right there, they flavor flayed the most ever.

sample voice in the history of music. Nobody else's voice has been sampled more than mine's. Nobody's. You know what I'm saying? Nobody's game been ripped. Look, the whole, what's that, the reality TV show been shit modeled after you as well. So shit. Oh yeah, yeah. I set the tone. The flavor of love, man. You had hood on that motherfucker. I kind of set the tone on that. Yeah, you for sure did. You know what I mean? But let me tell you this, Marshawn.

That, yeah, boy, you know where I really got that shit from, man? I got it from LL Cool J. Is that right? Back in the days, right? You know, there was a group called the Afros. You know what I'm saying? It was in my 911 is a joke video, too. So me and LL was in the back of the limo one day going to the Afros video shoot. And all the time, LL was saying, yeah, boy.

Yeah, boy. So what I did was I took the yeah, I made it longer, and I took the boy, and I made it longer. And that's how we came out with yeah, boy. And you know when that motherfucking first hit was, for me, was when I watched motherfucking New Jack City. Wow, Nino! Nino!

Yeah, you know what I'm talking about, man? That motherfucker wasn't stable, man. I'm telling you, man, you got my family going crazy. My uncle, my Uncle Lee, man, every time that motherfucker hit me with that, whenever he called my phone, yeah,

Oh, boy. Say, man, get your motherfucking ass. Fuck that. What's happening? You feel me, man? So, Flav, who were your inspirations growing up as far as music in terms of that genre? Because obviously everybody was starting out at the same time. Who'd you aspire to be? Who'd you love back then?

I mean, well, you know, we had all of our musical inspirations there, you know what I'm saying? The Gap Band and, you know, Rick James, you know what I'm saying? You know, the old, back in the days, oldies, you know, Diana Ross and the Supremes, the Four Tops, Marvin Gaye, you know what I'm saying? James Brown.

You know what I'm saying? That also, you know, I grew up listening also to a lot of like rock shit. You know what I'm saying? I grew up listening to rock music. You know what I'm saying? Back in the days, groups like Rare Earth. You know what I'm saying? Kid Career, Return to Forever.

You know, it's a man drill Led Zeppelin, black dog. Come on now. Come on now. Let's go. So a lot of these was my musical inspirations, man. Herbie Hancock, you know, Dizzy Gillespie. Also one of my good, one of my good friends,

God bless him who I miss so much today. My boy, Miles Davis. Amen. He was a good friend of mine, too. And me and Miles Davis.

We narrated the first movie that I ever was in in my life, which was Listen Up, The Lives of Quincy Jones. Me and Miles Davis narrated that movie. You know what I'm saying? Word up. On the strip. Hey, Flav, what are we doing the Taylor Swift collaboration? I know you're a big Swift fan. Hey, hey, hey. Not only am I a big Swifty, but I...

I have a new name. I have a new name. My new name now is

King Swifty. Get it right. King Swifty. King Swifty. King Swifty. Flavor Flav is king of all the Swiftys. I'm king of all the Swiftys, man, you know? You got to get Taylor Swift to hit him with a, yeah, boy. Hey, yo. I went up to Taylor Swift at the Grammys. I said, hey, Taylor, do you know all because now I've been supporting you real hard, you

Do you know your fan base call me King Swifty? She said, I know. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? I went and seen her show. You got the snow crew talking about King Swifty. You understand what I'm talking about? Yeah. I went and seen her show in Hamburg, too, man. She blew that shit out the water, man. And she gave me a shout out from the stage. You know what I mean? I love Taylor Swift, man. You know her lyrics, man. You know what I'm saying? It's real. She...

She writes about a lot of the things that she's been through, you know what I'm saying, in the Hall 9 and

And she keeps it real, you know, with a fan base. So that's why I support her big time. Speaking of keeping it real, I mean, obviously your music, aside from the music itself, the movement that was so much part of the music, the authenticity behind it and calling things, calling balls and strikes on racial justice, social justice. I mean, was that intentional or is that just a byproduct of just you're just being freely expressive? Or were you guys trying to really set a tone and tenor for social change?

Well, see, one thing that we always was about, you know what I'm saying, with our music, we write about a lot of the problems that was going on in the neighborhood. But then within the same record, we try to come up with the solution.

to the problems you know what i'm saying and um you know there was a lot going on that we want to do a whole world to know about i i say public enemy was the cnn of the streets you know that's what i call us the cnn of the streets you know what i'm saying and we put out a lot of social awareness you know out there you know i said my partner chuck d let me tell you something man

The reason why I back him is because all of the records that we ever put out, nobody could ever prove, nobody ever proved Chuck wrong. You know what I'm saying? And one thing that I can say about my partner, Chuck D, who's a very, very smart, crazy smart individual, man, before he writes the record,

He does his research first. Then he writes about it. Then we put it out. So that's why nobody can prove him wrong. So, hey, you only got to stand by what's right.

You know what I'm saying? But just to let y'all know, even if my partner Chuck D was wrong anywhere, I would still stand by him anyway. I love that. But you think the music, I mean, the music today, I mean, it's interesting you prescribe not just the problem, identify a problem. And I love the CNN of the streets, man. That's a great way to describe it. But this idea of then focusing on the solution and focusing on some positive change. Is that still, you think that's reflected today's music?

as much as it was back then in the 80s and 90s. Well, let me say this because, you know, today is a lot different from...

Today is a lot different from when we first started putting out records and shit, you know what I'm saying, in the Hall 9. And, you know, back in the day when we was putting out our records, they had messages to them. You know what I'm saying? In the Hall 9. Today, you got a lot of people just making rap records. And there's a lot of good rap records going on out there right now. You know what I'm saying? But today, today's records is mostly...

bragging and boasting and shit, guns, drugs, sex, gang violence and all of that. That's what a lot of the records that are being made today, rap records, is about. But

The way that these people are writing their records is because this is the way that they're actually living in their neighborhoods. You know what I'm saying? But you do got a lot of people out there faking, talking about, I'll bust this and I'll shoot that. Never shot a fucking gun up in their fucking life. But they ain't really with the shit. Yeah, you got a lot of fucking fakes out there. You know what I'm saying? Word up, man. Really?

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Well, I never had no free flights, but I did hand out a lot of peanuts. Well, you gave them a lot of exposure, man, so they should be giving you some. We got to call Southwest.

Hey, hey, hey, hey, check this out. Not only did I hand out the peanuts, but also as we was landing, they gave me the mic. And I was like, all right, y'all, everybody on here on the plane, how does it feel to be landing to the voice of yours truly, Flavor Flav? And the whole plane is like, yeah! Yeah.

As a frequent flyer, that's the best flight. Trust me, there haven't been that many good flights lately. So I appreciate that. Gavin, you ain't never flown motherfucking Southwest. Southwest is the state airplane, brother. Batman, I don't never think you ever flown Southwest. Damn your life, my boy. I'm lucky to get A status. It's usually B or C, brother. You know what we got to do, though? We got to team you and Marshawn up. If you remember, Flav, back in Marshawn's rookie year, he did the Applebee's piece.

And you're a Rod Lobster guy. We got to somehow bring Red Lobster and Applebee's back. And we got to save the biscuits. We got to save the biscuits. The cheddar biscuits. Hold on. They trying to take the cheddar biscuits away. Yeah, we got to keep those around, man. Yeah, no, they can't. You can't do that. You can't take the cheddar biscuits away. That's a staple in the community. You ain't that. So you feel me?

That's right. When it come down to Red Lobster, man, Red Lobster was always one of my favorite family restaurants to take my family to. You know what I'm saying? And also, back in the days, come on, man, when you was able to go to Red Lobster, you was ballin'. You know what I mean? You was getting a bag up off their ass. You feel what I'm talking about? What? That's right. You was ballin', you know? That's a five-star motherfuckin' restaurant.

No, Flav, remember, it was Red Lobster, it was Sizzler. Sizzler and Red Lobster. Both of them. Sizzler was a good night out. Sizzler and Red Lobster, that's right. That's right. Sizzler. Careful against Sizzlers, baby. Come on now. Now it's Applebee's. Definitely can't forget about no Sizzler.

Oh, man. Where are you? Where are you spending most of your time? In the desert. Right here where I live in Vegas. I'm in Vegas. Vegas. In the desert. Look, Gavin, you always trying to find a motherfucking whereabouts and shit. I just trying to find general location. I ain't looking for the goddamn address. In the desert, man. It's hot in the desert, man. Hey, Flav, what'd you think of the DNC last week? Did you watch any of it?

No, I get to see none of that. Are you a by the way, I mean, what you talked about, it's interesting and sort of extension of Doug's question about a little bit of politics. But with without talking about politics, Doug Marchand, I've been talking a lot about what's going on in inner city America, not just in inner city, because Marchand corrected me. I don't even like.

that phrase. But what's going on in the streets? And we talked about the 80s and 90s. And, you know, we just obviously I think we're still sort of reconciling what the hell happened last three, four years with not just COVID, but notably social justice, which so many people forgot and what happened post George Floyd and so much of our politics, I think, being shaped today by the reaction to that and perhaps now the counter reaction to that. But what do you

What's your sense of how the hell we're doing? I mean, all the movement that was part of your music and that energy and the positivity in terms of just not, again, diagnosing a problem, but having a message.

I mean, what's your sense today of politics in relationship to the music? You were being a little critical of music in the context of people sort of posing about that reality. How are you feeling that that reality is squaring with the music? And what is your sense of how we're doing broadly? I mean, well, let me say this, man, because I've never been much of a politician and shit, you know what I'm saying? And I never really...

care too much about getting into the politics. You know what I'm saying? And see, like right now, today, when it comes down to these politics, on both sides, the Democrats and the Republicans, everybody's right, nobody's wrong. You know what I'm saying? And right now, there's a big fight going on with the Democrats and the Republicans. You know what I'm saying? And you know what? I stay out of it because, to me,

Everybody's wrong. Ain't nobody right yet. You know what I'm saying? So that's why I stay out of the politics thing, man. You know what I'm saying? The way I see that shit is like all the politicians, they like middlemen. And we all know when you start putting this shit into a term of a way that motherfuckers like us can understand that is like the middleman going to make sure that they get fed from both sides.

from both ends. You feel what I'm saying? They're going to make sure they get paid from, you know what I mean, over here and they're going to make sure that they get paid from over there. And at the end of the day, they're going to say the best shit that they need to say in order to make sure that they continue to get their bread. So, you know what I mean, Flav? I ain't going to lie. Like, you know what I mean? I was telling Gav, like, man, when you talk about the Republicans and Democrats, like, that shit ain't nothing but a motherfucking gang, though.

And the politicians is the voice that they put out there, you feel me, though, to speak their piece. And then they ain't nothing but a motherfucking middleman to the people. And then on the other side, the middleman to the government. And at the end of the day, you could never put you could never put too much on them because at the end of the day, they're going to say what they need to say in order to appease both parties because they're going to need, you know, I mean, backing from both of them.

So when I was thinking about that shit and you put that shit into perspective, like, man, well, look, man, if you got a motherfucker right now who's going to go out and get you, because, I mean, Gav went to the border. And, you know what I mean? We was talking about the fit and all and shit. And it was like, how much is the fit and all? And you probably get a brick of fit and all for about 20 bands or something. And I'm like, shit, you put a middleman in that. You know what I mean? Right. For a motherfucker who got it. Like, tell somebody who, you know what I mean, who want it. Like, yeah, you know, I could probably get you a brick of fit and all for about, uh,

You know what I mean? 20. Right. They're like, yeah, I got my people over here to be able to get it. You feel me? Then they're going to go get it. But at the end of the day, that motherfucker is going to collect from the motherfucker he's selling it to. Then he's going to collect from the motherfucker who he's going to put in contact for the motherfucker to sell it for. And then when you put the information in the hands of

the politicians gab don't take this offensive i take none of this don't get all offensive it's like the the politicians got to make sure all right he gonna he gonna tell what he need to tell to the people in order to get what they need to get in order for the government to be able to sign on what they need to sign on i'm like damn you know what them play a middleman role so at the end of the day realistically

In a sense, Gavin, exclude you out this conversation for a second. We ain't even talking to you or about you right now. But who the fuck can you trust when, you know what I mean? You know that an individual finna go ahead and capitalize on both ends. Why you not gonna make it sound good to this party over here on the right?

just the same way that you're going to make it sound good to the party on the left. Well, that's why Marshawn and Flav, we got all, we all got to be back being civil and being nice to everybody and living life. And Flav, no one has lived life like you or Marshawn. And that's the beauty of it because, um,

um you know we all have qtr quality time remaining slave and and you've lived your life that way we know more sean's lived his life that way so flay what what's what's next for you the next five years what do you what do you want to do what do you want to get into doug i like that that segway my boy you did a very good job right there you know i mean that's hey look that's why the politics you feel me that that's a politician right there hey doug

as my firstborn, you know what I'm talking about? That was a good job, my son. Thank you. That was a good segue, son. So, Flav, what do we got next? Hey, check this out. Check this out. Before I jump into that, right, I just wanted to just add on, you know what I'm saying, in the Hall 9. You know me, man. I have a special goal in life that I'm trying to achieve, you know what I'm saying? And what I want to do

Because I want to take all races of the world, you know what I'm saying? All races of the world, all nationalities, and I want to try to combine them together as one. You know what I'm saying? Because this world is made up of a whole bunch of different races. You know what I'm saying? You've got the black race, you've got the white race, you've got Italians, you've got Chinese, you've got Africans. I mean, you know...

All of these races are people. You know what I'm saying? But at the end of the day, there's only one race. That's the human race. Human motherfucking race. So no matter what race we come from, no matter what color we are, no matter what

part of the country we come from, no matter what language we speak. But at the end of the day, we're all sisters and brothers, man. We must form a wall of unity. You know what I'm saying? We must stick together and build that wall of unity so nobody else can carry it. It'll be so strong nobody else can carry it down. So that's my mission right now. You know what I'm saying? I'm going to tell you something, man. One thing that my partner Chuck D said, when it comes down to the word peace, I'd rather live in it

and fucking resting. Hey, I like that. I like that. Yeah. I like what you're saying. You know, the Bible talks about where many parts, one body and when one part suffers, we all suffer. Dr. King talked about that, right? He said, we're all bound together by a web of mutuality. And we've forgotten that man. And this sort of this, I mean, Marshawn talks about this gang culture, but even in the prism of red versus blue and this sort of this, the zero sum BS. So I appreciate that spirit. Um,

And of course, that's a spirit that's defined your success, your advocacy and the world that you're trying to build. So what is I mean, you know, as Doug said, segue, what do you I mean, you know, Marshawn made the point, man, you were way out front in the 80s and 90s. You're crushing it.

Now, more recently in contemporary terms, you keep reinventing yourself. Obviously, you were leading and cutting edge of reality TV. Marshawn begins jealous as hell because you were sitting there one versus 20. So where are you going to be? Hey, man, I need me a love of beast mode or something. Oh, man, no, you can't handle that. I'm like, God damn, he really brought him out. Like, man, hold on.

- Hey, I need to, you feel what I'm saying though? You feel me? Like, hey, put me in the game, coach. - Shocking, shocking. - Do a lot of all of that, you know what I'm saying? I made some major accomplishments, man, through reality TV. You know what I'm saying? I made a lot of major accomplishments.

do this rap music thing, man. You know what I'm saying? You know, I'm in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. You know, got the lifetime achievement from the Grammys. You know what I'm saying? I got a nice little layout in the African American Smithsonian Institute down in D.C. You know what I'm saying? I got stuff in the Grammy Museum in L.A. You know what I'm saying? In the whole 9th.

When it comes down to VH1, you know, reality TV, I still hold a record at VH1. I brought VH1 its most viewers ever in its history, 7.5 million viewers, and no one has ever seen it. You know, they tried it with Bret Michaels. They tried it with Ray J. They tried it with New York. I can't nobody break that record but Slade.

You know what I'm saying? So me, when it comes down to reality TV and all of that, been there, done that. I know that I set the tone for reality TV and all of that. So now...

Being that I did drop out way back in the day and I never got my diploma, I'm going back to high school and I'm going to get my diploma. And I'm putting that on TV. I'm putting that on TV. You know what I'm saying? I'm going back to high school, get my diploma, put that on TV. And then also I'm focusing on putting my residency together here in Las Vegas.

You know what I'm saying? I got a residency right now, too, that I'm going to be working on. You know what I'm saying? And I want to put it together here in Las Vegas. Hey, well, look, man, you not all. I'm going to say like this. I think I seen it was two artists. I think it was Coley Ray and Quavo. They just went back and they went and got their high school diplomas. And I think one of them was 29 and one of them was 24. So, yeah.

I mean, I don't think it matter about you. I mean, how old you are or, you know, I mean, what state of mind were you at in life? But go ahead and put more accomplishments on your resume. Like, man, just keep adding them motherfuckers, man. Keep the motherfuckers. Yeah, enough. Keep doing shit.

that motherfuckers didn't think was possible for you man you feel me especially because you know we had a couple talks on here before where you know i mean motherfuckers told me uh before like you'll be dead during jail by the age of 18 and you feel me though uh every year that i've had after uh 18 it's almost been like an extra life like uh you know something that i have been able to

you know, celebrate considering that individuals really had this mindset on that's what my life

was supposed to be. So, you know what I mean? As long as you keep on, you know what I mean, executing anything that you put to your, you know what I mean, to your mind and shit and keep on elevating levels that you probably didn't even think. Because, I mean, who the fuck would think about going back to, you know what I mean, get their high school diploma after they done just read down a resume, you know?

that you just read down like it don't even make sense you feel me though to do that but the fact that you had an opportunity to do it and you gonna go and do it like that is huge that is big though yeah that's really cool flame i mean i can't definitely that you know and also also i'm doing this i'm doing this this high school show you know for for for two reasons number one

You know, to show a lot of people my age that it's never too late to go back and get your diploma. But this is also to a message for the kids that's in school right now. Right now, while you're in school and you've got that chance, get that piece of paper, man, because you're going to have a hard time through life without it. And not only that, but you might not make it back like me to get it.

So get it now while you're ahead. So Flav, are you actually going back to your same high school and walking the halls? I'm not going back to the same high school. I think we're going to end up shooting this show here in Vegas. So we're trying to find a school right now that's going to let me shoot in. You know what I'm saying? In the hall nine. But yeah, it's definitely going to go down. How do you get back into a high school? Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like, hold on. You actually mean like going to class?

You know what I mean? The whole backpack, sitting in class, taking a test, listening to a motherfucking teacher who you know you probably make mold in anyway. All that. You feel me? The whole shit. Yep, the whole shit. Nothing but the whole shit. So help the whole shit, Marshawn. You got P.E., you got lunchtime, the whole thing. I might have to come do a pop-up in the classroom just to see what's happening so I can go fucking around. Listen, check this out. Believe me, I'm going to be having some celebrity guests coming by

Dropping it on me. You know what I'm saying? Marshawn, you know you definitely one of them. Hey, if you could jump in a space suit and go to the fucking moon, I know you could come see your boy Flav at a high school. Hey.

- Hey man, I'm telling you, and you know what? Fuck it, I might just come in the motherfucking space suit. Fuck it. That'd be some G-Shit though. - Hey Marshawn, either you come in the space suit or you come rolling around in that big ass fucking tire, man.

Yeah. Hey, you know what, man? It don't matter what the fuck I come in. I'm going to make sure I come correct, though. I'm going to tell you that much. Man, what? Come sit in class with you for a day. I'm going to tell you this. This might be the day that you get suspended from class for being a class clown because we're going to act a motherfucking fool in that motherfucker.

I want to come on a test day, too, to see if I could take one of them tests to see if I'm smarter than a fifth grader or something. Or Dan Quayle. You can spell potato. Flav, is the invite stand for me and the governor, too, Flav? Hell yeah. Come on. Hey, like Bob Barker said, come on down. Come on down. Come on down.

Hey, Flavor. Gavin Newsom, come on down. Come attend a motherfucking couple classes. I get nervous in class. I didn't do very well in high school. A lot of stress. Also on the music tip, you know what I'm saying? I've been doing some recording. And, you know, me and my partner, Chuck D, we're going to come with some more Public Enemy music for y'all. But also, you know, on the solo tip, on the solo tip,

You know what I'm saying? Like I said, I've achieved a lot of accomplishments with this rap music thing. You know what I'm saying? So I'm about to do a musical crossover right now. You know what I'm saying? And I'm about to start doing some R&B records. Love it. Nice. Nice. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I can hold a couple of notes. I can hold a couple of notes. You know, so I think I can start me a whole brand new chapter there, too. You know what I'm saying? I'm going to reinvent myself there as well.

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Oh, man, I'm inspired by a lot of these artists right now, man, with these amazing voices out there, man. So many I can't even really call names right now, man, you know? But yeah, man. Yo, let me tell you something, man. Chris Brown is definitely killing the game, number one. You know what I'm saying? My boy Tank. My boy Tank. Joe. Oh, he talking. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They fired him. Miguel. Miguel.

Miguel. Okay. Yeah, Miguel. Come on. I mean, these are guys with fly voices, man. You know what I'm saying? In the hall nine. Hey, even Drake got a good voice and he's a rapper. But he's got a nice singing voice, though.

You know what I'm saying? But yeah, man, I'm going to start singing, man. I want to sing to my death now. Hold on, man. Hold on. Because you sung the national anthem. What game was that you sang the national anthem at? Oh, that was at the Milwaukee Bucks. You know? I got a nephew in the league. His name is Marjon Beauchamp.

You know what I'm saying? He's number three on Milwaukee Bucks. You know what I'm saying? So, you know, when I went out to Milwaukee, they let me sing the national anthem there. So I did it my way. My way. Yeah. I know how to really sing it and be on note and everything. And I know how to, you know, but I did it.

Flavor Flaves way. You feel me? And it took a little while getting through the song and all, but that's what Flav would do. You feel me? Yeah, that's what Flav would do. Flav would make a statement. I ain't gonna lie, the way I sang that National Anthem, G, that shit made a fucking statement. Everybody's still talking about it today. But I've been invited by the Atlanta Hawks

to come sing it there. I've been invited by the New York Knicks to come sing it there. And now, um, um, um, I've been invited to come to go sing it out at, um, um, um, at,

Hey, Caitlin Clark, what's the team? Indiana. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I've been invited to go out there and sing in there, too. You know what I'm saying? Hey, Flay, take me through being a girl, Dad. I got two girls, man. I know you're very proud of that fact, man. Take me through being a girl, Dad, and how great that is. Well, let me tell you like this, man. A guy like me, man, I got four daughters.

I got four daughters, man, you know what I'm saying, in the whole nine. And, you know, I mean, you know, girls, man, they're very special, man. Girls are very special, you know what I'm saying? And you always want to make them feel special, you know what I'm saying? And I enjoy, you know, raising my daughters, bringing them up. And I understand their feelings.

You know what I'm saying? So me being a girl, dad, you know what I'm saying? I know how other girls out there in the world feel too. Just like those women on the water polo team. You know what I'm saying? I mean, they out there busting their ass, working hard. You know what I'm saying? And all they want to do is just be recognized for what they do. You know what I'm saying? And the whole nine. I'm going to tell you something. When it comes down to all of the sports that's being played in the Olympics, water polo is the hardest sport.

It's the hardest ball because all you're doing is treading water, man. You know what I'm saying? And the whole night, I jumped in the water with the girls, and I tried it. I know what it takes, man. And they taught me a couple of things. They taught me the egg beater thing to where I can float around on top of the water with no hands. They gave me the ball so I could try to score and shit. You know what I'm saying? Your boy Flay did good. I scored two goals. Two goals. You know what I'm saying?

But at the end of the day, you know, all of these girls, all the girls want to do is just be recognized. You know what I'm saying? For what they do. You know what I'm saying? No doubt. So that's why I understood that. And that's why enough reason why I jumped in there. You know what I'm saying? To help out. Well, Flav, we need we need we need you and Snoop and Marshawn in the 28 Olympics, man. We need you three to be the torchbearers that Olympics in L.A.

Hey, guess what? I got a feeling I might be one of them. So look at that already. Yeah. I put my bid in. I put my bid in already. I say,

I said, if Snoop can carry the torch in Paris, come on, man. Flav can carry that bad boy in L.A. Hey, Snoop did a fantastic job, man. He rocked. He rocked. Even though they did pay him half a million a day, they paid him half a million a day. Snoop got a nice payday out of that.

Besides the pain day, though, he did a good job. And I know that man had a lot of fucking fun, man. Snoop had a lot of fun out there. Yo, Matt, big up to Snoop. Matt, big up to you, Snoop. Snoopadelic.

That's my boy. That's my guy. I want one of them pins, too. He got his own Olympic pin, man. I want to try to get me one of them Olympic pins, man. Shout out Snoop, man, straight up. Well, I have a feeling, Doug, we're going to see the three of them. We're going to see Marshawn, the trifecta, the three of them down in L.A.

2020. Look, man, you the governor, man. You need to make some shit happen. I know. I think I can help you with that pen as well, Flav. All right. But yo, I can see Marshawn carrying a torch. I see that. Hey, yo, Marshawn, if you carry the torch, bro, please pass it to your boy Flav.

Hey man, you pass that motherfucker to the left hand side. Keep that bitch in rotation. You understand me? Keep it in rotation. Well, Flay, we can't, um, we can't thank you enough for joining us, bro. We we've been massive fans of yours. I mean, me personally, since back when I saw you back in 1988, man. And, and like I said, you're as real as they come. This is what the show is all about. Bringing people like you on here to talk about life and, and everything and experiences and all that stuff, man. So, uh,

You know, you're the real deal, bro. We can't thank you enough for joining us, man. It's been a pleasure. Hey, yo, check this out. I just want to add on to, you know what I'm saying? Before we get off of here, you know, because we was on that girl dad situation. You know what I'm saying? And like I said, all the girls want to do is just be recognized for what they do. So back in the day, you know, Spike Lee put out a movie called He Got Game.

And we did the soundtrack to it. Public Enemy, we did the soundtrack to that. You know what I'm saying? So now we're working on this record. We're getting ready to release the record.

It's called, we're taking He Got Game and we're turning it into She Got Game. Nice. Love it. Y'all get ready to get She Got Game probably next week. Breaking news. Breaking news, Flav. Breaking news. Next week, She Got Game. By the way, are your girls, do they have game? Are they following in your footsteps?

Yeah, man. Hey, my girls are good parents, man. You know, they be good mothers, man, to their children and all that, you know. I mean, I got three daughters that have children and one don't. You know, my daughter's a designer. She ain't playing that right now. She's just, you know what I'm saying? My daughter's a designer. She's just out here doing her thing. I'm proud of her. She's working. She's got a good job, man. Got her own car, her own place, and

You know, I'm proud. I'm very proud of her, you know what I'm saying? And the whole nine. But yeah, my girls, they're doing, all my girls are doing good, man. So they kind of following their footsteps, their dad's footsteps in the good parenting direction. And how's being a grandpa? Is it what they say it is better than being a parent? It's fun being a grandfather, man. And not only that, but I love hearing the word grandpa

granddaddy, because that's what my grandchildren call me. Like my grandchildren say, hi, granddaddy. You know what I'm saying? And a couple of them call me grandpa. You know what I'm saying? I got 11 grandchildren. You know what I'm saying? 11 of them.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. You got a village. Yeah. Yeah. I got a bill. Hey, check this out. I got my own football team, man. You know what I'm saying? And some substitutes. And some substitutes. It takes a village, man. It takes a village. Maybe, maybe, Marshawn, you should be a substitute teacher when he's back in high school instead, speaking of substitutes.

Yeah, you know what? Man, we might be able to make some. There's an episode. I like this. That would be dope. That would be dope, man. I go to class one day and Marshawn Lynch happens to be my teacher. What's up, man? Let's get it. He's teaching me a lot. He's teaching us all a lot. Hey, Marshawn. Hey, Marshawn. I'm going to put the bid in for you. Just don't fucking fail me.

Hey, look. What? We got straight A's. No flag pose. Look, no flag pose. Pass me like you pass the ball. Like the ball is passed to you. Yeah, like the ball is passed to you. I'm going to smooth hand that bitch off. Smooth than a motherfucker. Hey, y'all. Hey, check this out. And I'm going to smooth.

Make a touchdown with that bad boy. I'm going to score. You know what I'm saying? Hey, we're going to keep this transition smoother than Skippy peanut butter, baby. You feel what I'm talking about? Yes, Lord. I fucked with it, man. Hell yeah, big dog, man. Appreciate you coming on. You feel me, don't kick a game with him, spitting that ism and some more shit.

Man, it's all, but you know, the love is bulletproof over here, man. A nigga respect you to the umpteenth most power of the umpteenth most. All the shits that they got, the squared and the other little shit that they got that they put over the number. The love is infinite, my guy. Thank you, man. And you know it's like that here for you too, man. Always, always been like that.

I'm hitting your ass up, man. Where we going? Mastro's? Where we going? Mastro's. Hey, it don't matter. It don't matter. I thought it was a Red Lobster, the last few ratings. Yo, yo, yo, if my boy fuck with Red Lobster, I'll take him to Red Lobster. Man, I fuck with the cheddar biscuits. No, he's moved up to Mastro's. I love it. I will get him the whole menu and some. Oh, man. Let's do it. Hey, thank you guys for having me on. Thanks, man.

This has been a blessing and an honor, man. Word up, man. Honor's strength, man. Thank y'all for having me and the whole nine. Bless y'all with your lives, your futures, your goals, your families. Make sure y'all watch my TV show when it come on. And make sure y'all listen to my record when we put it out. She got game. She got game. She got game, Flame. Let's go. Yeah, boy. She got it. Yeah, boy. Yeah, boy.

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