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Hey, guys, all the politicking world out there and our listeners, we have a great episode coming up here with Chelsea Handler. Want to let everybody know that we recorded this

A while back, before the fires, our thoughts and our prayers and our minds and our hearts and our souls are with everyone in Altadena and the Palisades and everyone in L.A. This episode we recorded a while back that is inspiring, fun, and a great episode with the iconic Chelsea Handler. Man, what's happening, man? You got Marshawn, Beast Mode, Lynch. Doug Hendrickson. And Gavin Newsom, and you're listening to Politicking. You're on the beat. You're on the beat.

Marshawn was up late last night. Jesus, between the two of you, a couple hours sleep. Where the hell were you last night? What do you mean he was up late last night? In an unfamiliar place, home. Oh, so no wonder you didn't sleep. He doesn't sleep. Marshawn's got a sleeping problem like I do.

I'm trying to figure out. This is an unfamiliar place. You know what I mean? This is brand new to me. You don't have to take any of those. Do you take sleeping pills or anything? What do you do? No, no. I don't get down like that.

Doug does. Doug was addicted to some of that shit. I don't get some blood or something. I'll be good, but... You know, I've realized all these billionaires, these guys take all this. They do all this weird stuff, dude. They take IVs, peptides, ozone, all this stuff. I thought you were promoting. You sent me all that stuff yesterday. I was wondering without any context. I drink, I smoke. I don't take vitamins. You was a little fresh. I might have three years left having said that. I'm in pretty good shape.

These guys are taking, there's this thing where Sean, these guys are taking, it's like these IVs where it go, you take it every, you take it three days a week and it makes you feel like you have like the stomach flu. And I guess it's the worst 45 minutes of your life. But once it's done, you feel like a million bucks. And I'm like, no, I'm good. I'm not doing it.

It's like these, I can't, I don't know what, it's some kind of cocktail of vitamins and stuff, but it's an IV and you take it like two or three days a week. And for 45 minutes, you feel like you have the flu or stomach flu, like awful. Sounds like chemo, man. That doesn't sound like anything healthy. Yeah, that don't sound like something I want to,

It's almost like you can't, you, you, you gotta like pull the IV out, but once you're done, apparently you feel like a million bucks. Marshawn, you ever been tempted to do that? Ayahuasca stuff and go to some, you know, tent somewhere in the boondocks. Hell no, mate. But I'll tell you this, your boy, A-Rod, we just did the 20th, uh, like reunion thing for coach Teffert back at, uh, Cal and, uh,

He came, we was asking him about, you know what I mean, him getting high off that shit. I mean, it's the best feeling ever. Like, nah, fuck what you're doing. I don't think I want no parts of that shit. Did you talk to him about being in, what he went for like 24 hours or three days in the dark or something? What the hell was that? Oh man, I don't look when you, I guess when you out there to define yourself, it ain't no limits to the things you'll do.

I got to be honest. I might be really, I might be very shallow, but I've never really wanted to go find myself yet. Is that a bad thing? I think it's kind of bad. You got to get the BetterHelp app, brother. BetterHelp. Gavin, seriously, have you ever thought about that? No, this is a cry for help. Marshawn, literally, this is a cry for help. This guy's being, he's being vulnerable right now. Very honest. No, no.

Fresh, you need the BetterHelp app, man? I might need the BetterHelp app, but I don't know. Is this bad of me that I haven't wanted to go away for two weeks and just on my own and search for whatever is out there? I don't know. Maybe I'm shallow. I don't know. I have a problem. I have a serious problem. I have a serious problem. You can't sleep? Can't sleep. You need to find yourself? Definitely. Or you haven't even looked for yourself? No.

No, man. I think you're getting in that midlife crisis. I think that white people shit. White people shit. Jesus. Doug, what do you think of that? I don't know if it's white people shit. I mean,

I mean, look, motherfuckers be getting into some wild shit, man. Like, you want to go swim in the ocean with hella shots. What about like LSD or acid or something? What about ecstasy? You ever tried ecstasy? Any of that stuff? Oh, I've done a lot of ecstasy, yes. You have? I've done ecstasy, shrooms. I've done all that stuff, yes. Shrooms too? Shrooms is good. It's from the planet. It's from the ground. It's from the earth. God put that here for me. Hey, you.

But I got to be honest here, and I might be wrong. I think half of this self-help stuff,

People just say they're doing all this stuff, but no one's really doing it. What, like cold plunges? You were about to buy a cold plunge. No, forget about cold plunges. I'm talking about all the other stuff. And you tried it. I don't know if people are really doing this stuff, but it's like everybody wants to talk like they're doing all these crazy, these cutting edge things. But wait, you guys must have, no BS, don't you have a morning routine? Everyone's got a morning routine. It's like, is there five things?

things you do every single morning when you wake up every morning? Get ready for the day. I went to Drew's in a blunt for breakfast. No, there's really not, Gavin. You have no morning routine. Nothing. Not a damn thing.

Marshawn, you have no morning routine. Come on. That's all you orange juice and a blunt for breakfast. How about during the season? Did you have a morning routine during the season? Orange juice and a blunt for breakfast. Well, Gavin, give me your more. What do you mean? I got a damn morning routine. Every morning I wake up. Your face cream. You got your. No, not even close. Thank you for that. Really? Really? You're going to, you're going to first thing every morning, lemon water.

Then I do a series of sit-ups and push-ups. Then cold plunge. Then I got this stretching thing. Then I do a little Wim Hof breathing. And then I make my way to the cell phone. What is Wim Hof breathing? Fully in, fully out.

- Go with the forces of the breath. - So you do that? - Yeah. No, no, just like 30 breaths. And then you hold, breath hold, and you breath hold. And by the way, Doug has seen the breath hold. Three and a half, four minutes, no problem. No problem. That's what I'm talking about. And that centers you, bro. That gets you ready for the day.

And a great way to start the morning is with that. I mean, come on, nothing better than two big glasses of lemon water. Just saying. But Gavin, here's what I understand. I'll call you sometimes at 1030. You're angry and yelling at people. Yeah. I mean, sometimes it doesn't work. Sometimes the breathing doesn't work. Imagine if I didn't breathe, man, even 10 times worse.

But I'm like into this Wim Hof stuff. I really am. I got into this. Here's the Wim Hof app. I'm like all over it, bro. Marshawn, Gavin's an easy – you know that dice game back in the day, the cups where you didn't figure out – Gavin would be easy to fool. Gavin's easy to fool. Yeah, Gavin's easy to fool, man. We get Gavin on something simple. You know what I mean?

Man, what's that? The three-card? Yeah, three-card money, whatever it is. No, man. I don't fall prey to that stuff. This is scientific. Never the black. Never the black. Always the red. Always the red. Hey, guys, by the way, I will say this cold plunge thing is kind of waning on me a little bit. It ain't ever gotten easier. I have no idea if it's ever helped.

Man, I told you before. I'm over it a little bit. That cold plunge, that's a different beast. I don't know. You say you get up and do that in the morning? I was doing it like six days a week, then three days a week, five. Now I'm like back to a couple. And it's misery.

Misery. But how do you feel though? I feel like I literally, if there was ever a video of me coming out, I'm like, I'm totally naked. And I come out and it's pouring rain out. And I just walk around with my hands like this. I'm completely red. Fantastic. Completely red. I mean, completely red.

And like, you can't get out of it without just feeling like a million dollars. That's why you do it. Oh, shit. I will say, though, when you get out of it, though, you do. I mean, the few times that I have done it, you do feel like you feel like a million bucks for sure. But it's just that you got to have a different type of mindset to do that. And we used to have I used to have teammates that are getting their neck down.

Yeah. And they're just chilling. How long would it be in there for? Five minutes, 10 minutes? Yeah. Full confidence. Hey, what's up, man? What's going on? Hey, can you get another bag of ice and throw that bag of ice in here for me? Like, man, what the fuck? Like bullshit. What was it? But what do you after every game? What do you get a massage or something? What was I do? Relax.

Yeah, my therapy was massage.

I don't know. That human touch was different. I had a rotation in my suits that used to get me right. Yes, by the way. Yes, you did, Marshawn. No, get the fuck out of here, Fred. Yeah, no, that wasn't even right, bro. Get the fuck out of here, my boy. Marshawn's vices were massages and some Hennessy. And then he'd smoke a little at night and he'd get some sleep. After he was drug tested. After.

After he was drug tested. By the way, do you have to pay for that? It's a dumb question. Totally stupid question. No, this isn't Masha's watch. Masha got real massages. Do you have to pay for a masseuse? Or does the team provide that full time? Or do you have to pay extra? So how it worked was, you know, during the season, they would have the masseuse come up to the facilities and you could schedule a time slot for like 30 minutes. But,

I mean, that was more so like specific, specific work. Maybe I'm dealing with, you know, a quad or something, because really realistically, like, I mean, considering after a game, I think one of the trainers was like, man, Marshawn going through a game is like equivalent to seven car accidents total.

So I was like, God damn, that's that's that's a lot of goddamn car accidents. Yeah, I mean, and you you you get that in what, three hours at a day. So, I mean, you know, that that was real important. So when you talk about, you know, morning routines and this and that, but my routine was more so like during the week.

Yeah, I mean, Monday through Sunday. And the whole purpose of my routine was to get me from Sunday to Sunday. That's it. It got pretty deep. Ever wonder what it would be like to be mentored by today's top business leaders? My podcast, This Is Working, can help with that.

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Thank you. Thank you for having me. You got your hopes up, mama. It's just a cigar right now. Oh, I see. I see. Okay. Copy that. Well, we are in the state of California. At least you guys are. So hi, guys. Hey, guys. Well, where the hell are you? Are you in an undisclosed location, Utah or something? I'm in Whistler, Canada.

Oh, oh, interesting. Skiing? What are you doing? That's my ski spot. I come up here for the winters and I'm Canadian during the winters and maybe permanently. We'll see.

I'm here in my winter wonderland. Winter wonderland. Well, it's good to be with you. And by the way, no BS, you literally are about to come out with a seventh damn book, which is ridiculous, in just a couple months. And by the way, Chelsea, it does beg the question, are you writing all these books yourself or you've got co-writers? Tell the truth. I write all of my books and all of my material by myself.

I mean, you're not... And how do you have material for six, seven books? My God, most people get one or two in a lifetime. And these are, by the way, for everyone listening, these are all damn bestsellers. Right? Almost every single one of these books. Yes, they are all in New York Times bestselling books. I have...

Well, I have a lot of free time because I'm not a mother and I don't have a husband. So I get to traipse around the whole world and have lots of different experiences to talk about in my stand-up and write about in my books. And yeah, my story is just... Right when I think I'm out of material, some new...

wave of stories happens. And then I'm like, Oh, I've got to write this down or I've got to talk about this, but yeah, there's no shortage of material. Also my material comes from me. Like it's all my experience and my stories. So when you are willing to kind of dish about your personal experiences, whether they're humiliating or not, um,

you're not short on material. Well, Chelsea, by the way, since I am married to three kids and my wife's a massive fan, if you can borrow my wife and my kids anytime, how about that?

Thank you. But Chelsea, I got to be honest, I'm not trying I'm not trying to fanboy you or girl you, but I'm a huge fan of yours. I've loved your work forever. Literally all the stuff back in the day to now. I love what you're all about. You're cool as shit. And I know we'd have a good time hanging out. And so I'm looking forward to coming to Vegas for one of your shows. But I love what you've done and who you are. So I'm very, very excited you're on the show today.

Oh, well, thank you very much. Thanks for having me, guys. The governor wants to jump right into the books. We don't need to jump right in yet, Gavin. No, I care about the books. I mean, I just I'm impressed. By the way, you're previewing this damn book and you talk about sexting with a governor, which then begs the damn question, Chelsea.

Which governor were you sexting? His name is Andrew Cuomo, and he is no longer a governor. Listen, guys, I was hot on the scene with Andrew Cuomo because, like many women, we were dehydrated for real leadership during the COVID pandemic. And he got on television every morning, fighting us with old school masculinity, which I have to admit was a turn on. I liked being yelled at every time he played.

an angry Italian meatball submarine sandwich. And I started to develop strong feelings for him along with a lot of my friends. Everyone was, God, Andrew Cuomo is sexy the way he's yelling at all of us. And

And then I was like, oh, I have an advantage. You know, I'm a person like a notable person. I'm famous. So I went on The View. I asked my PR people to put me on The View, my PR team. And I was on with Whoopi and Joy Behar. And they were asking me about my COVID experience. And I said, you know, I told them about it. And then at the very last minute, I said, I just would like to go on the record and say that I would like to be penetrated by the governor of New York. And then I waited.

And it took about three days for me to receive a phone call from him. Three days. Yes. And what was the call? Just politely saying, I'm honored. Yes.

What did he say? Literally, what was I mean, we say, hey, Chelsea, it's Governor Cuomo. Yeah, basically, he left me a message, a voicemail. And he was like, I and he's like, hello, Ms. Handler. This is Cuomo. And I heard from a little birdie in a tree that someone has a crush on me. And then it went from there. And then we talked and then we made plans. We texted a bunch.

And then I was going to the East Coast for my for like a few months because of during COVID. My family and I were going to rent a house in Maine. And I was planning on having a very hot dinner date with him. But then he ghosted me. Wow. That begs the question, Chelsea, if Gavin wasn't married during COVID, would you have texted him first? No, no. She's over me. She moved past me years ago, Doug. If Gavin were single, I would be hitting on him as well.

Absolutely. All right. I love the transparency, Chelsea. But we haven't got... I'm respectful of the situation. I appreciate that, Chelsea. And by the way, so is the family. But let me ask you this. You said you said... I mean, what... I can't believe I'm even following up on this question. What did you say? I mean, when you say sexting, what the hell does that even mean? Is that what RFK was just doing, Junior? No, no. I wasn't sexting with him. I don't think I've ever sexted with anyone. I mean, that's a little lame, in my opinion. No, we were...

Like we were just like flirting. It wasn't like we were, you know, doing anything torrid or lurid. So we, we, we just talked back and forth and I was going to go there for dinner. I was like, oh, I want to come over and have a nice COVID friendly outdoor dinner date.

At the governor's mansion. And he was like, yeah, I'd like that. Let's plan that. And then I was like, okay, should I quarantine? What do I do? He's like quarantine, smart teen. He's like, don't worry about it. I was like, Oh, interesting twist, but nothing ever came to fruition. So thankfully, because he got canceled about six months later.

Well, Chelsea, as an NFL agent, it's evolved over the years of the social media now. And nowadays, these girls will just send naked pictures to players, DM them, and then these guys will fly them in sight unseen.

And sometimes it ends well, sometimes it doesn't. Catfish at its finest. Yes, absolutely. Catfish at its finest. What the hell does that even mean? No, it's, it's, it's by the way, no, it's a big, it's a big ring. There's girls out there, Chelsea, that are pros and they will, they will trap these guys fast extortion stuff. Like you wouldn't, but it's a whole, it's a whole nother, by the way, I could give you some good bits from material. You'd have some great shows just based on that stuff. So we'll talk offline. Yeah. Well, I mean, anyone,

Anyone that is famous or a public person really shouldn't be flying anyone in that they met on a DM on Instagram. So that's like pretty basic. And these guys should know that by now. And you should actually let them know if they don't know already. I did send one photo to Andrew Cuomo that was questionable. Actually, thank you for inviting me to tell this story.

Only because the ship had sailed. I understood it wasn't happening. And I came downstairs talking to my brothers and sisters. I'm like, I think I'm getting ghosted by the governor. And my sister's like, I told you, no governor that's yelling at half the country to stay six feet apart is going to be able to connoiter with you in his backyard. What are you talking about? You're like one of the loudest people in the world.

And so then I sent this picture of me on a Vespa. I had a face mask on. I had like a helmet on. I had a bikini. And I sent it to him because I thought the thought of me somehow like a picture of me like that.

Getting like to his phone and accidentally transmitting through his iPad or through the computer during one of his early morning COVID briefings to see gave me excitement, you know, like that made me excited. I was like, what if the whole world gets to see that I'm texting with him? But that didn't happen either. So, you know, a girl can still dream.

Well, Chelsea, we love the weed. You know, I don't know if you know, but we had Woody Harrelson on a while ago and me and Marshawn were the committee to

to get the, the woods in West Hollywood up and running. And so we were on the committee for that. So we appreciate your, your partaking in, in this stuff like me and Marshawn do often. Chelsea, I think that's kind of how we connected many moons ago when I was legalizing marijuana in California and you politely had me on your show and

tried to cross-pollinate me with some interesting abusers, not just users of the product.

That's funny. I do remember that, Gavin. That is, we did connect on that. And also, I would also like to note that Andrew Cuomo, many of our conversation consisted of, many of our conversations consisted of me beseeching him to legalize marijuana. And he did in the state of New York shortly after he met me. So I would like to also take credit for that. You're going to take credit for that. And by the way, you're a Jersey girl, right? Didn't you, you grew up there? Yes, yes.

Marshawn loves Jersey. Marshawn, where's your spot in Jersey like? I know you've I know you go to two spots out there. East Orange. Oh, yeah. We used to buy weed from East Orange in East Orange. Yeah, that was the spot. East Orange. What the hell? By the way, what the hell is East Orange? Is that a store? Is that a store? The hell is this? Forgive me, New Jersey. I don't know. I just don't know. Oh, shit.

East Orange is near Clinton, New Jersey, Gavin. It's a little suburb there. And it's not far from Livingston, New Jersey, where I grew up. Yes, you're right. There you go. Gavin, it's not Montclair, Jersey, Gavin, where you've probably been to some fundraiser back in the day. It's a little more harder than that, Gavin. Thank you, guys. Thank you. I'm going to hang out in Orange next. That's definitely my next stop, but not for the reasons you guys used to hang out

there. By the way, Chelsea, what you grow up with a huge family, right? You got, you talked about your sister a second ago, but you got like, you got a ton of brothers and sisters, right? Yeah. I'm the youngest of six kids. So I was pretty pissed when I was born. I was like, who are all these other people? Like I thought I was going to, I came home from the hospital. I was psyched to get the party started. And then I saw all of these other people taking up my parents' time. I was like, wait, what's our financial situation? Like I couldn't understand the

planning or the lack thereof of having that many children and not being like financially set. So I grew up pretty quickly. I was like, I had a big personality at a very young age because I just was not

I wasn't buying into what they were selling. I'm like, somebody needs to organize this family and that somebody is going to be me. So I was the boss from a very young age. And now my brothers and sisters knew that, know that I was, I was right all along. And Chelsea, you, you also just a little blurb in your book. You were kind of preview on, you weren't kidding at 10 years old, you had a lemonade stand. And so talk about being a boss. You started spiking the lemonade.

Because you got a few extra bucks and put what vodka in the damn lemonade. Is that what most is what other 10 year olds were doing? Or this was that's why I started doing it, because I realized that there was a piece of the market was missing and that I could make a bigger profit margin if I sold alcohol to children and their parents. So it wasn't only vodka. I decided to start a hard lemonade stand. I did the lemonade stand for two days and I made like fifteen dollars in two days. I'm like, this isn't going to cut it.

So then I was like, OK, let's get some gin, whiskey and tequila and we'll have a hard lemonade stand. I got I hired another bar back who was 10 years old. Another bar back. And I taught Nelson right away. I'm like, do you know how to make a whiskey soda? And then we sat on it. And then the first week of our lemonade stand, we made three hundred and fifty nine dollars or something free.

And your parents did not know you were doing this with the vodka and tequila? Who knows what my parents knew and didn't. They weren't my problem. I never took my parents seriously. Like they, and they, when you're the youngest of six kids, they're not taking you very seriously either. They're just happy that you're out of the house.

And yeah, no one was kind of like, you know, giving me rules to follow growing up. I was on my own and I understood that very early on. So yeah, I made out like a bandit and I was a businesswoman from 10 years on. Is it true story that you were kind of outed on all this when you were in the first class cabin and all the rest of the family was in coach when you upgraded using the money? Well, I actually started a babysitting ring after my baby, after my lemonade stand. A babysitter ring. And I...

lied and called all the hotels on Martha's Vineyard. That's where we had a summer house, which makes it sound like we were really wealthy. We weren't. I don't know how my dad got that house. He was a used car dealer. So he had that house and I

I called every hotel on Martha's Vineyard in Edgartown and I was introduced myself. I'm like, my name is Chelsea Handler. I'm a very experienced 15 year old babysitter because I always looked older. So I said I was 15 when I was 10 and I spent that summer babysitting a 14 year old boy. 10 years old with a lemonade stand.

So, I mean, so that does beg the question. I mean, the origin story of the why you're in the racket you're in and why you've got to, you know, you're Chelsea's at Chelsea and you're at Vegas and you're working on your seventh book and have had 150 Netflix. I mean, you must have, like, it sounds like you're an investor in Netflix. You have more damn Netflix documentaries. But is that, I mean, was this the comedy came then early as well or did the comedy come later?

when the identity started to show up and you sort of continued to sort of march to the beat of your own drum?

I mean, I think when you have, you know, a big family, it leans towards comedy. I mean, you kind of have to laugh at the disorganization and the, I mean, you have a big family, Gavin. Yours is a little probably more regulated. Your children are probably on much more of a tighter schedule than any of us. No, they're a bunch of, they're chaos. It's chaotic over there. Well, I'm going to check the damn lemonade stand after this conversation. I'm not even kidding. I don't trust my 11-year-old. No BS. This is good.

Then again, I'm impressed and inspired at the same time. It's confusing. Yeah. I mean, it was a funny, we are all funny and we all have, we're very sarcastic and,

And yeah, I guess it just was, you know, I got a lot of attention as the youngest, but I needed to, I got it for the wrong reasons. I didn't like it because I was cute and I was blonde and I liked getting attention for being precocious. I didn't like getting attention for my looks. So I was always trying to outweigh the attention that came to me naturally with like

earned attention, you know? And then I decided like when I got to school, I'm like, I'm going to be the funny one. I'm going to say the funny thing. And, and then it became, I was just so outspoken that people would be laughing at it, whether it was funny or not, because I had such a personality on me at a young age. And I guess it veered into comedy once I had to kind of

hone it into something more than just being, you know, obnoxious. Do you remember your first time when you just, where all of a sudden just this light, maybe literally figuratively where you were like, this is what I want to do. Were you on stage? Was it in school and everyone's laughing and you did a formal routine or was there a moment where you said this is, you know, where you knew this would potentially be a pathway forward?

Yeah, I actually got a DUI when I was 21 years old in California. Marshawn's laughing for a reason. We'll talk about that in a moment. Marshawn, did you recently get a DUI? Not recently. It was a long time ago. I cannot confirm or deny. Okay, well, copy that. The good news is it was my first one and last one. So I learned my lesson, but...

They send you to DUI school when you get a DUI and you have to go to these classes. Marshawn, if you haven't been already, get ready. And you have to go to these classes where they basically tell you how to get out of your next DUI. They're like, never admit to having more than, or no, when you get pulled over, this is how the class started. It was so ridiculous. They go, never admit.

admit to having anything to drink when you get pulled over by a police officer. The minute you admit it, then they drag you out of the car and they can give you a field sobriety chest. So basically every night of this class was the instructor giving us all the, like the information so that he would, you know, to arm us with the information so that he would never have to see us again.

And then everyone had to get up and tell their DUI story. And I was, you know, the idea of public speaking made me shiver. I couldn't even imagine getting up in front of that class. So...

week, I would just kind of like bob and weave to a different part of the seating area so that he couldn't like spot me. And I was like, I'll work my way out of this. I'm going to get through this class without talking to this class and publicly speaking. And on the very last class, like he had my number. He's like, where's Chelsea Handler? I was 22 or 21. And I

I got up and I told my DUI story, which was ridiculous. I had driven past my house. I called the cop a racist. We were both white. I mean, it was just went on and on and on. I got stuck in Sybil brand women's prison because their computer system went down. So even though my aunt and uncle had bailed me out, I was still in there for three days because you couldn't get out of the system until you were put in the system. I mean, it

in this room with like 500 women and they were trading salami sandwiches for tampons. And I was like, Oh my God, what have I done? My life is over. And then finally I got out and, and,

And I went to that class and I got up and I told my story. I told all of it and everyone was dying and they're laughing. And, and, and finally, and I couldn't get off the stage. I was so scared to publicly speak. And then it turned into this like really fun vibe and fun time. And I was loving myself. And at the end, the, the teacher came up and was like, okay, this isn't a standup comedy class. Like you need to get off the stage. Now you're enjoying this a little too much. And all the people in the class were,

Well, not all of them, but enough of them said you should be you should do stand up like you have. You are a great storyteller. And I was like, oh, maybe I should do stand up. And so I did. I did it like the next week. I went to the Laugh Factory. I waited in line, the Laugh Factory on Sunset Boulevard. And I waited in line for like. You waste no time then. No, no. I got a note and I took it.

And yeah, so it's like, you know, one of the worst decisions I ever made turned into one of the best decisions I've ever made. And were you what?

That sounds like Marshawn. That sounds like my taking Ambien before I went home driving and got pulled over by 12 cops, Chelsea. And luckily I talked my way out of that, but that was not very smart. That was my one almost DUI moment where it would have could have been pretty bad. How did you talk your way out of that? So Superbowl week is like. No, no, Doug, got to answer the question, brother. She asked you a simple question. How the hell did you talk your way out of that? Yeah.

Did I call you, Gavin? No, I didn't. I'm kidding. No, you did not call me. That doesn't work. Nice try, buddy. No, you know, it's funny, Chelsea. So this was the stupidest thing. So it's Super Bowl week. It's Monday. So Super Bowl for seven days is debauchery. It's 20 hours a day. You're partying. You're out. It's crazy. It's not. So Monday, when the Super Bowl was in California a couple of years, like six, seven years ago,

It's I decided, OK, I'm going to take one night off and chill. I had to be up at six in the morning. I'm going home around one in the morning. So I take like a half an ambient on the way home. I'm like 15 minutes from the city and I'm thinking, OK, I'm going to take 15 minute drive. I'm going to the ambience and kick in at 30. I'm going to go home, have my frosted flakes or some cereal, go to bed, get five hours and call it a night.

So I get in the car and I'm going over the bridge to my house in Marin. And all of a sudden I'm like seeing UFOs coming at me. I'm going, what the fuck is going on? And so I get through the Robin Williams tunnel with the tunnel connecting in Marin. And next, you know, I see lights behind me and I'm like, oh, dude, what is up? What is going on? So I got two hands in the wheel. I'm kind of navigating. So now I hear like sirens pull over the car.

So I pull over the next exit. I get off. There's literally 12 cop cars that pull me over. They surround. They don't know what's going on. And they say, what have you been drinking? I said, nothing. What have you been smoking? Nothing. What have you been doing? I said, look, I took like a quarter ambient. I'm heading home. And they said, well, do you realize you're going 10 miles an hour on the freeway going lane to lane to lane? And they all surrounded my car. I didn't know what was going on.

And so truthfully, I don't know how I talked my way out of it, but they ended up driving me home, left my car there and I got off. Thank God. But it was, uh,

it was a pretty funny story, but it could have ended pretty badly, but thank God I got out of it. No Ambien and like, and Xanax and any of those sleeping pills that you want to take, the rule of thumb is you have to be where you're going. Like when you take a Xanax before a plane takes off and then fall asleep and wake up and realize that you've been on the runway for four hours and the plane has never taken off. That's a mistake. You have to, until you are in where you're

you are going. Like, you have to wait until you are midair and then you are free to take your Xanax or your sleeping pill. Same with driving. You have to wait until you get to your destination. You sound like you got the blueprint for that.

Oh yeah. I've done this before. Obviously I once had a friend who woke up, went out, she said she had taken an Ambien is the worst by the way. And I'm a pharmacologist in my opinion. But my friend once took an Ambien. She said she woke up, went to her car. I found an empty pot of spaghetti in the passenger seat. Like, so she had made spaghetti. She has no idea if she went driving, but,

And she has no idea who ate the spaghetti. I was like, it's pretty impressive that you could make spaghetti under that kind of influence. There you go. That's what I'm going to say, Deb. You probably were sleepwalking the whole time you was talking to the damn 5-0. But it's impressive you got out of it. I mean, sometimes cops are cool like that and understand that it's like, you know, you're not a problem. You just made a stupid mistake.

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Listen to Building One on the iHeartRadio app, Apple, or wherever you get your podcasts. Well, Chelsea, speaking of food, one night I was, I think Marshawn was with me. We were getting high with Snoop and I got back to my hotel and I was so high. I literally was walking up and down the hallways and eating like waffles off the plates of other people's room service cars because I didn't know where I was, what was going on. I think it lasted like three days.

Let me ask you to come to the offices of any talk show that I ever hosted. The smell of marijuana did not leave the building for the next two and a half weeks. He and Wiz Khalifa have the best weed. That's for sure. I love marijuana, so there's nothing that's going to knock me down. I feel like if I don't have something in my system, if I'm dead sober, it's almost like I have too much of an advantage. Do you know what I mean? I have to

I have to have a little something to subdue my personality. Well, Chelsea, we were just talking about that before you got on about all these people now, like all these billionaire guys talking about all this self-help stuff and like taking IVs and ozone and peptides and all this stuff. And they said, what do you do? I said, truthfully, I don't do anything. I don't.

I smoke some weed. I drink. I don't sleep. I don't take vitamins. I do work out occasionally. So I don't know. Maybe I got something wrong with me. I don't know. But like all these guys seem to have the keys to the kingdom here, but maybe I'm going to live longer. I don't know. Chelsea, are you on any routine and all that stuff? Are you like big into peptides?

I do. I take a lot of stuff. I take a lot of anti-aging stuff. I take, I mean, I microdose what anything anybody has. In Canada, everything is legal. So they have great microdose mushrooms. They have great LSD. Like I ski on LSD. You take a tiny hit and you're just... Hold on, hold on. What do you mean you ski on LSD? Okay.

I've had my credits of LSD, and then I've run out the door and go ski. Like, that heightens the whole day. You appreciate nature. You look at the trees more. And same with mushrooms. They have MDMA here that's legal. Everything's legal in Canada, so everybody should think about heading north. Jesus Christ.

So you can get high as fuck. I don't get high as fuck. No, no, no. I'm conscientious of other skiers. So I'm not irresponsible, but I like to enhance my experience. I'm also a very good skier.

skier. So I know what I'm doing. So I try and, you know, stay with my group and do my thing. But yeah, I love all of that stuff. I like micro dosing. I like macro dosing. I like anything. What about the Iowa? Yeah. What about all that everyone's doing these days? I've done that. That's not, that's not, that's a special on Netflix too. Chelsea does drugs. But I have to say, you know, I, I talk so openly about drugs and drug use because I think there are,

to use drugs in very responsible ways. I mean, like we just discussed, this is my seventh book. I'm about to release my fifth stand-up special. You know, like, I'm a productive human being. I'm contributing to society. You don't have to be a derelict because you like drugs. You can't become a drug addict, but you can definitely have

fun with drugs and alcohol and still remain very responsible. Did you ever, all these years, did you ever have any problems? Did you ever feel like you were crossing that line where it was a little too much? Was it affecting your work? Did you ever have a moment where you're like, damn. Yeah.

moments where I'm like, I got to get better dial it in, you know, like, I'm getting a little too loosey goosey, or I'm having too much fun, or I was partying a little bit too much, you know, and that's when you when you're really tired, and you're working really hard, and then you add partying on top of it. That's not a great combination for me anyway. So I've always had to kind of, you know, like, take those moments in and understand, hey, I don't want to ever have to give anything up. So

So I'd rather get control of the situation now and be a little bit more tempered with my use. But yeah, as it stands now, everything's going swimmingly. Yeah.

Hey, Chelsea, take me through your mental health stuff, because I don't know if you know, but Marshawn famously in his last press conference, his last game said, take care of your mentals, take care of your chicken. And that became kind of a huge thing in sports today in terms of that. You've been you've been big on mental health, too, in regards to your podcast and everything else. Take me through your mental health. Either did you have struggles with it or you just like giving out advice and help people out?

No, I haven't had any like mental health struggles. I went to therapy in a big way when I was 40 because it was right after the 2016 election and I couldn't believe it. And

And I just, I was, I had a Netflix show. I was doing a talk show, my second one, and I was just not feeling right, you know? And so I went to therapy for the first time in a long time. Like I had so much anger that it wasn't, it wasn't normal. It was like, it was something else. It wasn't, I couldn't just be mad at Donald Trump and his veneered family. You know, like I had, there was a bigger issue that I had to unravel.

And my brother died when I was nine years old and I had never really kind of spoken about that to anyone. So that's what that was. And, you know, when you don't deal with something, when it happens, it's delayed grief and it builds up and builds up and builds up. And then it's,

It hits whatever your trauma is will come and find you when it's, you know, when it stops working for you. Because in many ways, my trauma was working for me because I was so outspoken and I was so kind of like, you know, determined. And I didn't have time for feelings because I was just on a path of success and I wanted to succeed. And I loved what I was doing. And then, yeah.

It started to not work for me and I started to get really angry and, you know, and unpacking that was kind of how my podcast, which is called Dear Chelsea, where real people call in for advice because, you know,

a, I just think that's the best way to get advice is to get someone's opinion. Who's not involved in your family, your relationship, or any of the stuff that you're upset about. You need an objective point of view and I'm a truth teller. So I always want the best for everyone. And I want to tell people the truth, even if it's hard to hear, you know, a lot of people aren't that interested in, in hearing the truth, but, um,

my podcast was born out of that. I just had such a great experience going to therapy and learning about self-awareness, learning about how I'm perceived and learning what my triggers are and my shortcomings like, and, and kind of readjusting my personality. You know what I mean? To be a lot more loving and kind and, and,

And sensitive to other people rather than just like bulldozing my way and being like, this is who I am. It was like, no, actually, why don't you listen and talk and find out what everyone else is like. It's not all about you. You don't have the responsibility that you have to entertain everyone all the time.

And then when I got out of therapy, I was like, okay, this is great. I have all of this information and knowledge and I wanted to share it with everybody. So I was like, what's the best way to do that? I was like, oh, I'll do an advice podcast because they kept asking me to do a podcast. And I was like, I don't, I have nothing new to say. And then I was like, oh, this is new. Like I'll do, I'll talk to real live people who will call in like a dear Abby. So that's been really fun and it's been a huge success. So I'm psyched about that. It's like, I think we're in our fifth season.

And Chelsea, did you, I mean, when you say you stopped therapy, literally there's no refreshers. You don't check back in every couple months. I mean, you literally, you sought something, you found it, and now you're good?

No, I do have refreshers. Like when I'm here in Whistler, I just talked to my therapist yesterday. When I have downtime, I take advantage of it. And I find therapy, like I just never wanted to be one of those people who was in therapy interminably. You know, like if you're going to therapy for 16 years, I'm not going to be there for you.

I'm sorry, but I don't think that's working. Like you should be able to go for the big problems and the big issues. And then you should be able to go incrementally when something pops up and you're having a hard time with it. In my personal view, that's how I feel. But I think the funny thing, and Marshawn, tell me if you guys agree with this too, is like you go to therapy and I went pretty heavily for like two years and I learned all this stuff, right? And then you have to like,

take all that information and like absorb it right like you're learning you're learning it's like going to school and then there's summer break and the summer break is the time where you kind of observe everything you learned in third grade you're like oh okay I know all this information and now it kind of lives with you but then the third step of therapy is you have to apply all of the stuff you learned into your life while while keeping the good parts of your personality the same so it's

quite an adjustment to make because initially when I came into therapy, I just was all of a sudden very quiet. I go to dinner parties and people are like, why aren't you fucking talking? And I'd be like, oh, I've just, you know, my therapist told me that I don't have to be the center of the party. And I don't, it's not my responsibility to entertain everyone. And my friends would be like, you're fucking boring. Like, where's the old Chelsea? We want her back. And I'm like, no, no, no, no, she's gone.

I'm like, there's a new version of me. I don't know where. And I kept auditioning like newer versions of myself to see what clicked. And then finally it all does click, but it's quite an arduous process. I love that. Marshawn, you have any, I mean, you know, you, you, you've been out there preaching, but are you practicing brother? Oh man. It's just, it's just like with the, with the new information that you get now, you just got to be held accountable to it.

And I mean, you know, I think, you know, just giving you an example of it, like, you know, you got all this information and then you actually applied it. And I believe that that's how I mean, you got to the point that that you got to where you say, yeah, work. Then you found the best version of yourself. So I do believe it worked. But I mean, you know, in terms of the mental health situation, just like I don't know.

I was having a lot of teammates who, I mean, we, you know, like we won a Super Bowl together and, I mean, they got to a dark place. And some of the things that they were saying to me, you know, it kind of, it kind of fucked me up a little bit. And just, just, just reminding them, like, you know, things to be thankful for. And,

I mean, in reality, what it did for them was, I mean, it brought them out of a dark place and they was able to reemerge out of, you know, I mean, that that dark cloud that they was under. So, I mean, I do agree with that. But it's always like that with new information. Now you got to be accountable to it. And then you got to learn how to process and filter through it to make it the best version for yourself.

Yeah. And like the gratitude piece of it is so important, right? And it sounds corny in the beginning when if you hear it and you're not practicing gratitude or you don't have a gratitude journal or whatever, you know, people do. I'm one of the people who do it. Like if I'm especially in a dark mood or a dark period of time or a stressful period of time, that is the first thing I do when I wake up is write down 15 things I'm grateful for because

Like in order to be happy, you have to be, you have to have gratitude and you have to be grateful. Like those two things are linked together. And it's so easy to focus on the negative things that are happening. It's so easy to get wrapped up in the news and focus on that and think the world's coming to an end, but it's so much more rewarding to actually look at all of the things in your life that are going well, look at all the people that you love, look at all the impact that you've had and just,

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Well, Chelsea, I'm curious in terms of your call-ins, how many of them are younger people, teenagers and whatnot, because they're dealing with all the social media stuff and they see stuff, they all think life's great and all these stuff. And that fucks a lot of these kids up these days, in terms of what they're looking at and like, oh, this is great. And everyone's on a beach somewhere and on a yacht. And it's like, come on, dude, you're up in the real world. We're up in Whistler skiing. You know what I mean? Yes, exactly.

Exactly. Sorry, guys. I just had to disrobe. It's very hot in here. My fire is burning. So my cheeks are getting very rosy. Keep it coming, Chelsea. Keep it coming. I'm coming on to Marshawn, actually. Yeah, no, we don't get a lot of teenagers, but we get a lot of young people. We get a lot of young people, you know, young adults.

And who are really dealing with, you know, being trans or being gay and their family's reaction to coming out. You know, a lot of the LGBTQ community and a lot of eating disorders, a lot of young girls who are really insecure and need a boost of confidence and need like an injection of confidence and

You know, my audience is primarily women and gay men. So I try to really inject confidence into every young person that I can. Have you found, Chelsea, over the last... I mean, you started this podcast, what, in 2021, right? Yes. Yes.

So is there been have you seen a trend over the last number of years in terms of that subject matter? Have you seen things sort of shift with the because the last these are a hell of a few years to have a podcast, right? With all the social unrest and covid and all the anxieties. And you mentioned the old elections, new elections. I mean, has there been are you finding sort of similar themes over the course last five years?

of things, but like a lot of political discontent within families, like a lot of people who don't know how to deal with their families, you know, who are on the opposite side of things. And, and

And that's a big, big theme. Like, you know, how do I have how do I celebrate Christmas with my parents when they voted for Donald Trump and I'm a lesbian? Stuff like that is pretty prevalent. But, yeah, I mean, it has been a crazy, you know, that's what's amazing. Like, I remember thinking the world was over when Trump was elected in 2016. And here we are now again and it's happening again. And it's like crazy.

I don't feel the same way I felt. Like, yes, I hate this. It totally sucks. But I don't think the world is over. I think the world is too big to be over anytime soon. I think there's too many things that are working well, you know, while there are things that aren't going well. There are many things that are. And

it's our job to highlight those things and really stay focused and positive for the people that can't really bring themselves to do that. You know, I love it. I mean, it's the only attitude to have right now. And it's the resilient mindset. What, by the way, speaking of mindset, just generally and sort of end of year, turning the page, forget elections, but at the end of the year, beginning of a new year, you, are you a new year's resolution person?

I mean, you talk about morning journals on gratitude. Do you lay out or have you done that over your career? Set specific goals? Are you one of those goal-oriented people? What do you tend to do in terms of just setting out a plan for your own life?

I don't really give a shit about New Year's resolutions. I mean, I just find all of that to be so silly. Like if that works for you, do it. But for me, I'm not, it's not like one day I'm going to become a different person. Every day is, is intentionally meant for me to act differently.

And in my best interest and everyone's best interest, you know, to be a good person, to be loving, to be generous, to be kind, to really see people, you know? And cause there's so many people who feel unseen. And I find that to be the most heartbreaking thing about our society. So many kids and so many young adults that just, they feel invisible. They don't feel like anyone's out for them. So I like to focus my energy on that and a lot of other people, but

I find that, you know, things work differently for different people, obviously. Like New Year's resolutions, no. Like I wouldn't even know what my New Year's resolution would be.

But I don't feel the need to even have one. You know what I mean? Because I'm always getting better. I'm going to be 50 this year. Like my level of joyfulness is here when it used to be here. Where's the party, Chelsea? Are we invited? At her book party. I'll have what she's having. It's going to be in Spain. It's going to be in New York. This book comes out on my 50th birthday. So I'll be having a book party in New York. There will be one in LA. I'm going to go for it. And this whole year, I'm just going to crush it because-

to know how joyful it is and to be crushing it in this way. You know, like I feel and look better than I have in my entire life. So I want to reclaim that number because obviously it doesn't mean what it used to. When my parents were 50, they could have wrapped it up. You know, I'm getting started in my second act. So I'm pretty pumped up about it.

Did you imagine? I love that, Chelsea. Was your 10-year-old self, did your 10-year-old self ever see you where you are at 50? I mean, at 40, I imagine you didn't see where you were at 50 when you were struggling. My 10-year-old self would be really psyched. In the book, I write a letter to myself as a young girl saying that,

Like what I dream that I would become as a woman, like that I would be bold, that I would be confident, that I would travel the world, that I would never get married, that I'd have tons of lovers all over the world. All of those things.

All of those things are true. Like I have lived this life that has exceeded any of my expectations. I have so much fun. I get to come up to my house in Whistler for four months during winter. I bought a house in Spain. I learned Spanish. I learned how to ski like a pro, like anything I've set my mind to I've accomplished. And I want everyone to know like,

Things get better when you start caring less about everything else, right? Everyone says, oh, 50, you feel so much more confident, blah, blah, blah. But it's more than that. It's like, I don't date losers anymore. I don't have time for any of that. I only date losers.

men who are going to enhance my life and be an additive. I only do things that are going to bring me joy and create joy for others. Like you become selfish, but in the best way, because when you're having a good time, especially someone who's on stage performing in front of people all the time, if I'm in a good mood, then it's so much easier to spread that joyfulness.

Chelsea, I freaking love you. You are a... Marshawn, I mean, first of all, we got to take a little boondog of the Spain, Marshawn. I mean, Chelsea. I thought it was you're going up to Canada. Now you're off to Spain. Well, my wife's from Canada. Yeah.

LSD is legal in Spain as well. Just let you guys unbelievable. DUIs LSD, you know, the hell is this? Hey, but Chelsea, I want to ask you a question, Chelsea. I am a father of two rockstar girl athletes and a son too, but I got two great volleyball players. I got one playing in college and I got another one in high school. That's a great beach and indoor player. So you got, you love women's sports. He had big advocate. I think, don't you own a volleyball league or an investor? I,

I own one. Yeah, no, I'm an investor. I invested in love volleyball. That's going to be huge though. So I'm psyched. You said your daughter plays volleyball. One of my, one of my oldest daughter plays at Cal Poly indoor. And then I got my, my freshman who's a bad-ass beach and indoor player as well. So I'm a volleyball dad through. And in fact, more uncle more Sean's been in many of the games. Yeah. Cute. Most definitely. Definitely show the love and support. I mean, it is,

It is growing so fast. Female volleyball, women's volleyball is the fastest growing sport right now. Oh, it's a fun sport. They're athletes. It's credible athleticism. By the way, it is. In fact, beach volleyball is the fastest growing college sport. And indoor volleyball, as you know, from obviously college level and pro level is taking off like nuts. And it's fun, dude. It's a fun sport, man. I love it.

Well, it's fun to see the girls, I mean, especially girls volleyball, just guys who, but the energy and the camaraderie just, you know, even after you miss a shot, everybody's like all huddled up. And, you know, I, my kids are just getting into it. Doug's by the way, Doug, Doug, you may be, he's short selling that you've got, he's got potentially two Olympic athletes. It's ridiculous. He's his own agent. He's already got an NIL deal.

It's crazy. Is that men's volleyball? I don't think I've ever seen that. It's a good point. It's a good point. No, no, there is. Men's Olympic volleyball and obviously high school in L.A. is very big for men. And then college is like 20 schools that are really good. And like Long Beach State, UCLA, Ohio State are epic. And obviously the Olympics and then beach volleyball, the guys are good, too. So it's fun. It's a great sport. I love it.

So by the way, speaking of epic, just because I got to sort of build on this, Chelsea, I mean, I love the New Year's resolutions aside, but it's not patronizing to say, because you kind of implied it yourself, how you feel as you're rolling into 50 years old and feeling like you've accomplished so much and you've had purpose and meaning, I think, behind it.

Because you consistently, and I think that's one of the things that I really identify with you. You don't just entertain, you're not just funny, but you educate. And there's always been sort of a sober relationship to guests you've had on all your shows and your documentaries talking about substantive issues and meaningful issues. Obviously a podcast that lends so much to so many.

But it's, you know, are there things left in the agenda? I mean, do you have a goal that you haven't achieved? Do you have a mindset around goal setting? Is there another Netflix series that you that it's on the horizon that you've always wanted? Are there things you feel like, you know, you're not there yet, but, you know, one day you're going to get, you know, Mission Impossible six, a co-star. I mean, what what what's out there?

that you haven't attained or what are you looking forward to most in the next decade? I mean, I'm mostly, I don't have plans. I don't make like five-year plans. I don't think like, you know, I don't like being told what to do by a lot of people. So that's why I kind of do my own thing a lot. I do my standup. I release a special every tour. I write my own books and I do my podcast.

And when I had my shows, you know, I've been given a lot of license in my creative endeavors. And now that I'm 50, I'm like, okay, I'm ready to try some new stuff. Like I'm ready to do some more acting. I'm ready to do some more like stuff that I haven't been known for, but only with myself in charge. You know what I mean? I'm not, I'm not interested in like,

I have to have a voice in everything I do. I have to be, have a hand in writing everything I do. I'm not really for sale or for hire in that way. That is traditional. It's just doesn't, it doesn't serve me well when I have any man or woman telling me what to do. Although I would take it more easily from a woman, but I just don't, I don't,

need it. Do you know what I mean? Everything's fine for me financially. It's not like I have to work. I only want to do things that are going to spread joy and laughter and sunshine. That is all I'm interested in doing. And my pursuit for that, whether it's career or personal, I feel like those two things are just so, you know,

dovetailed in my life like I work really hard and then I vacation really hard and I I take having fun very seriously like I I think part of my profession is being fun like I feel like it is professional to be fun you know what I mean by the way you and Marshawn are twins Marshawn always says if it's not a hell yeah it's a hell fucking no right Marshawn yeah

Totally. Totally. It's like, I don't want to have long conversations about doing anything or committing to anything. I know instinctively what's, what's going to work for me and what's not. Although I did just get an opportunity, which I can't talk about. That really has me excited. My agents just brought me something and they're like, this is a really good use of your time. And I was like, Oh my God, how long would this take? And they're like four weeks. And I'm like, okay, so I can't take, but it's, again, it's something I haven't done yet. Cause now I'm 50%.

It's like, I've got all the things I want. I managed to not get married, not to have any children. So that's a home run. Okay. What is your, what is your opposition to marriage? By the way, just don't want to be tethered to any one person. I don't want to have to consult with anyone about anything. You know, if I want to get up and go to Abu Dhabi one morning,

I don't want to do that. But if I do, I don't want to talk to anyone about it. I just want to go. I don't want to have anyone telling me what their opinions of my behavior is or if I should be away for this long. I'm just fiercely independent. And I love that. So now I'm going to flex some muscles that I probably haven't flexed yet since...

I've had such a good time here on earth and in my life, and now I'm mature and responsible. So I think this year I will take on some things I haven't done before. I want to challenge myself a little bit more. Marshawn, you're shaking your head. No.

No, no, I'm just saying that's big. I like that. By the way, Marshawn is not married, doesn't have kids either. He doesn't want to be telling him what to do either. That's why I said he's shaking his head, Doug. And you and I are shaking our heads maybe in a different direction. We have a very different path. Well, thankfully, Chelsea, thankfully I have a wife who's cool as shit. And she pretty much lets me do what I need to do, which is pretty damn nice. But by the way, I'm with you. I never had a girlfriend in my entire life

until I met my wife. Because I was said, why would someone buy somebody a present or want to call somebody if they're not going to marry them and that's the girl? I'm not going to fuck around cheating and all that. So like, I never, never had a girlfriend ever until I met my wife. And then I'm like, oh my God. Then I met her and I'm like, it's over. We've been married happily for 24 years. But I never had that. I was you for my entire life until I was 31.

And I'm like, I'm not going to – no one can tell me what to do. Fuck that. I'm doing my own thing. And then I met her. I'm like, okay, I got it. I can have the best of both worlds.

Right, Marshawn? That's great. And also, listen, no offense to anyone who wants children or wants to be married. Go for it. Go get a baby if you want one. I just know that's not for me. And I think it's also really important for people to know when they're not cut out for parenting because you're doing the world a favor by not becoming a parent, you know? Also frees you up.

to be generous to a whole slew of children in your life. I have nine nieces and nephews. I have tons of kids in my life. I wouldn't have all those kids in my life if I had become a parent, I wouldn't have had the bandwidth. Hey, Chelsea, give me, give me two comedians. You would pay to see, uh, give me two that you like. I have to go and maybe you've already seen it, but that are out there right now, young, old, whatever that you would go line up to go see tomorrow.

Yamanika Saunders. She's hilarious. She opens for me on the road sometimes. And she's one of the funniest people I've ever met. And Rosebud Baker. Okay. All right. What makes them so good? What's unique about them?

Well, Yamanika is funny because she just gets up and yells at white people for just being white. And why? Why? Like she she and it's not it. And it's it's very thoughtful and educated. And it's like I'm always trying to like show my audience the whole world, you know, not just like what being a white middle aged blonde woman is like. I want a full spectrum of experience, right?

And she's somebody we couldn't have come from more opposite backgrounds or have had different experiences. But she is someone who really lays it out in such a great, entertaining way for people just so that white people can kind of take a look at themselves and look at their part, especially white women, you know, look at their part in what happened in this election, look at their part in society, look how just classist

clueless we can be and and she does it in a hilarious way like it's an indictment on white people and i love it what's her name again yamanika saunders go instagram and you'll get a flavor of what i'm talking about and uh rosebud baker is a writer on snl but she's a great stand-up and she's really sharp really funny um her grandfather was james baker actually uh and wow

And you know what's so funny? I was at George W. Bush's compound in Kennebunkport a couple summers ago, and he was like, George W. Bush, I was also on Three Edibles when I met him, FYI. Had to be to go over to that house, you know what I mean? And he goes, I think you and I have someone in common. And I was like, first of all, I said, I don't think we have anybody in common. He goes, oh, we do. We do. He's like, my guy from my, I think he was the Secretary of State, James Baker, having

Yeah, he was everything. He was, well, he was Gore in the Supreme court. I mean, he was the guy who was the lead counsel for at least the point person and the, and Bush v. Gore. Oh, right, right, right, right, right. Okay. There we go. No, I mean, he's a legend. He's, he's one of the greats and forget being partisan. He's, he was a next level, uh, quality old school Republican, uh,

unbelievably powerful, unbelievably eloquent in terms of how he used and exercised his power. I'm being generous. Disagree with him on nine out of 10 damn issues. But he was a force to be reckoned with. Yeah. So this is his granddaughter. And George W. Bush was the first person who said, he goes, you and I have someone in common. There's a new girl coming out and she's a lot like you. And she's got a foul mouth.

and she's got a lot of strong opinions and he's like, and her name is Rosebud Baker. And I was like, you know, Rosebud Baker, I had just signed a deal with Rosebud Baker to like develop a TV show for her a few years ago. So that was really funny. We actually did have someone in common. And, and then he went on to show me his personal painting collection of his personal painting. That's right. And so,

Hey, it is great to catch up with you. Thank you for taking the time to join us. And thank you for taking the time to write what will be your seventh best-selling book. I'll have what she's having, which is out on what? It's out February 25th. Yep. And it's available. You can go on what? You can go on everything right now and pre-order the book. Yes. And happy early birthday.

Thank you, buddy. I had a pleasure speaking with you three gentlemen. Thank you so much. Thank you, Chelsea. Thank you.

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