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It's Tuesday, July 30th, right now on CNN This Morning. Vice President Harris looking to seize the momentum as she heads to the battleground state of Georgia for the first time as the presumptive Democratic nominee. Plus... He's not against anything, but he loves family. Donald Trump comes to the defense of his running mate after a week of bitter backlash. And...

CNN's exclusive new reporting on how the Supreme Court came to its controversial decision in the former president's immunity case and Trump agreeing to meet with the FBI in their investigation of the attempt on his life.

It is just past 6 a.m. here in Washington. Here's a live look at the White House looking pretty this morning. Good morning. I'm Jim Sciutto in for Casey Hunt. Great to be with you this morning. In just hours, Kamala Harris will head to Atlanta for her first rally in Georgia as the presumptive Democratic nominee. Traveling with her, a wave of momentum and a staggering pile of campaign cash. The vice president is trying to re-energize in particular black voters.

and Hispanic voters, her campaign eyeing not just the blue wall states, but also the Sun Belt on its hoped for path to 270 electoral votes. President Biden won Georgia, you'll remember, by less than 12,000 votes four years ago. Harris looking to build on that. Last night, she got a boost from

A White Dudes for Harris Zoom fundraiser, a $4 million boost to be exact, a three and a half hour call attracted more than 180,000 participants, including the Minnesota governor, Tim Walz, who is a potential Harris VP pick. - How often in 100 days do you get to change the trajectory of the world? How often in 100 days do you get to do something that's going to impact generations to come? And how often in the world do you make that bastard wake up afterwards and know that a black woman kicked his and sent him on the road?

Making his case, the Trump campaign is still trying to find a way to slow Harris' momentum. The former president appearing last night on Fox, trying out a wide array of attack lines. I would rather run against her than him. I think she's easier than he is. She got rid of the laugh. I noticed I haven't seen that crazy laugh that she gets. She's crazy. That laugh, that's the laugh of a crazy person. She's 60 years old. A lot of people, I didn't realize she was 60. I thought she was a little younger, but she's 60. Everybody knows who I am.

And now people know who she is. She's a radical left lunatic. She'll destroy our country. She's 59, by the way. Joining me now to discuss all that is Saleha Mohsin, senior Washington correspondent for Bloomberg News, former White House communications director, Kate Bedingfield, and David Poliansky, Republican strategist, former chief of staff to Senator Ted Cruz. David, if I could begin with you, you know, the laugh of a crazy person. I mean, why?

Why is this necessary? I know it's not new for Trump, but why is this necessary to attack a female candidate for president in such a way? Well, look, I've been a part of two campaigns against Donald Trump, and it's not exclusive to this race. It's how he campaigns. He's unpredictable. He's hard to pin down. And sometimes what seems like an erratic measure on his part is sometimes pretty effective with voters. So I think we all just have to recognize that sometimes it's Donald Trump being Donald Trump. But at the same time, I think

the Harris campaign is mindful that sometimes his erratic behavior can be effective in land with voters. Yeah, but I mean, come on. Listen to Senator Kennedy. Here's a sitting U.S. Senator speaking on Fox News. Listen to the language he used. Have a listen.

The polling that I've seen shows that many Americans think that the vice president is not a serious person. As I said, that she's a bit of a ding dong. I'm just wondering how you think that will resonate with women when she is called nasty and crazy and a ding dong. Why call her a ding dong? Then why call her a ding dong? I'm telling you what the polling shows. I'm telling you what the polling shows.

And it does. And I'll be glad to sit down with you and walk you through the polls. I'm not aware of a poll that uses the language ding-dong. But to Neil Cavuto's point there, is that an opportunity for Democrats and women voters? Look, I think it certainly energizes Democrats. It energizes women when, you know, when Trump, when the Republicans talk about her in this way. I mean, it's also, look, she's, you know, blackmailing.

certain sees I would argue the most qualified person in the race she's the open vice president for four years is the Senate she was a prosecutor she's AG so the idea that we're gonna have a debate between you know JD Vance and Kamala Harris and Donald Trump about who's more qualified to be president that seems a little ludicrous but yes I think attacking her in this personal way is certainly motivating to democrats motivating to women especially in the context love

the larger problems that this Republican ticket has with women in the comments that J.D. Vance has made about women's families, obviously what they're trying to do in taking away a woman's right to make a medical decision for herself. So, you know, taken within the context of what substantively this ticket's trying to do to limit women's rights,

Yes, I think it is absolutely going to light a fire under Democrats and moderate women suburban voters. So, Lea, to that point, you hear Tim Walz, I mean, and by the way, when you see these VP potential picks on television, they're making their case, right, to be vice president.

Part of which is to be, I suppose, an attack dog. But I mean, he's calling the former president a bastard. Which strikes me as slightly different from the Harris campaign approach has been, let's make it less apocalyptic about Trump and more, well, they're just kind of weird. So I mean, is that a smart tack for Democrats to take to kind of hit back with similar language and attacks?

I think it might be something that resonates with some parts of the electorate. What we're seeing in the Trump campaign is they're on the back foot. They did not expect Kamala Harris to become the presumptive nominee. But when there was all this talk about Biden stepping off the ticket, should he, will he, can he, they were out there saying, no, no, the primary process showed that Biden is a candidate. They wanted to go against him, not Kamala Harris. Now they're having to figure out how do we attack this?

person and maintain our support among the black constituents and white women and all women yeah listen and by the way we in a shorter time frame right I mean you got 98 days till election day shorter than usual to frame a candidate and they had done all this work on and be framed what's that and to be framed you're absolutely right I mean where's your sense I mean from the Republican Democratic point of view of where the race stands right now I mean if it were held today

Would Kamala Harris win? - I think, unbelievably, in a week, we were just talking about being in Milwaukee just about 10 days ago. Look, the race has changed in historic ways, not just fundamental ways. With President Biden, look, he met the Article II requirements to be president, but I don't think he met that next threshold, which was, did people feel he was competent and up to the job?

She clearly crosses that hurdle and now we're back into a campaign. Which candidate should lead the country forward for the next four years?

And over the last week, she's done a very effective job making her case. The opportunity ahead of her to pick a vice president and head into the DNC convention, all of that plays in her favor. And I think it's a transformed race that is a jump ball at the moment. - Yeah, I agree. I mean, I think we're back into a dog fight here. I think she has expanded the map in a way that, you know, Biden's map was clearly narrowing. She's expanded it. I think that's, you see evidence of that in her going to Georgia today.

uh... and she's also reenergize the democratic coalition in a way that uh... you know has really infused a lot of energy here now the challenge for campaign is to take that energy to take some of what we've seen in this last week which has been unprecedented and incredible and channel it into getting these people out you know knocking doors as we move toward september when people start early voting and then into november i think

You know, one thing I will say, having worked with a lot of the people who are now running her campaign, I do think they have put in place a terrific field operation. I think they have the infrastructure to take this energy and channel it. That will be sort of the next step for their campaign, which I know they are very, very focused on. I mean, listen, they're chalking up volunteers by the thousands. It's good. You might have heard the segment with Ron Brownstein earlier about how...

The numbers for Biden on the abortion issue were not as positive this cycle as they were in 2022 and 2020, not as clear cut between him and Trump. Clearly with Harris, by the way, she's a woman, more credible, you might argue, spokesperson on this issue. Is this gonna be an even more central message to the Democratic presidential campaign?

- It might be something that will resonate with voters. Democrats have been looking for a white space where they can kind of move in and really combat Trump. And now what we're seeing with JD Vance, he's kind of petering out. He has not had the best 10, 12 days. Kamala Harris has had a fantastic 10, 12 days.

absolute sugar high, honeymoon is there. I would just caution that it's just the beginning. There's a couple of concerns about Kamala Harris, how she performs in that broader stage, if she can bring the charismatic approach to it. And also her staffing in the past, there's been issues. Can she manage a staff appropriately, which will reveal, can she govern? Lessons can be learned.

and there is so much enthusiasm and energy behind it that hopefully she can overcome that and give Americans two options to vote. I do think the fact, by the way, that Donald Trump is having to defend J.D. Vance, sitting down with Laura Ingraham, and having to defend J.D. Vance, particularly on this issue of family and women, it shows you that there is massive opportunity here. I think they're already

was for Democrats given the Dobbs decision but there's huge opportunity here for Democrats to you know to push forward on these issues that are particularly relevant for women who by the way are gonna be very decisive cohort no that's not a conversation I'm sure the president wanted to be having yes I'm sure he was thrilled about that all right stay with us much more to come coming up on CNN the growing scrutiny as we were just talking of JD Vance has more questionable comments from his past more of them surface plus

CNN's exclusive reporting on the key role of Chief Justice John Roberts in the Supreme Court's decision on broad presidential immunity. And Republican Congressman David Joyce will join me live to discuss the assassination attempt of Donald Trump in the ongoing investigation.

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but he loves family. It's very important to him. All he said is he does like, I mean, for him, he likes family. He likes family. Donald Trump defending his running mate, J.D. Vance, as he continues to face backlash over his now viral remarks aimed at Kamala Harris and supporters of her. We're effectively run in this country via the Democrats, via our corporate oligarchs, by a bunch of childless cat ladies.

New reporting this morning by CNN's K-File indicates that Vance has a history of making disparaging remarks about people who happen not to have children, including this comment he made in an interview in 2020.

There's just these basic cadences of life that I think are really powerful and really, really valuable when you have kids in your life. And the fact that so many people, especially in America's leadership class, just don't have that in their lives. You know, I worry that it makes people more sociopathic and ultimately our whole country a little bit less sociopathic.

less mentally stable. And of course, you talk about going on Twitter. Final point I'll make is you go on Twitter and almost always the people who are most deranged and most psychotic are people who don't have kids at home. I mean, all right, my panel is back. David, sociopathic, if you choose not to have kids or can't have kids or happen not to have kids, explain. Well, I can't. I mean,

I want to go to the politics of this is first is easy. I don't think people are going to vote on either of the vice presidential picks. I think this is going to be a race between Donald Trump and Kamala Harris. That being said, I think as a party, we need to reassess how we talk about issues. And look, that's out of line. It's not how we should approach these issues. It's it's by the way, not just from a voting standpoint, an electoral standpoint, from a common sense standpoint.

And I think hopefully as a party, we learn lessons from watching these types of hits, especially in conservative media, where we tend to get loose and relaxed, to take a more nuanced approach and frankly focus on the issues that matter. And right now, the issues that matter in this country are immigration. It's the economy. And it doesn't matter whether you have kids or you don't, whether you're a Democrat, independent or Republican. We should talk about those issues in the way that we view them from a philosophical standpoint, not from...

I mean radicalized language to import is it loose and relaxed and I was just honest right I mean that's when you're loose and relaxed you're like conveying what you really think and I mean that's and also I mean this is not like a one-off he made a sarcastic comment and then he was like a that's not really what I meant and we've seen that repeatedly he has continued to make these these comments he also

you know in his first attempt to sort of clean this up after he became the vice presidential nominee he apologized to the cats that he offended not the women so I think that was pretty telling so I you know it is it look it is incredibly divisive it is as I was saying earlier I mean I think it is part of a larger problem that this ticket has with women as as they should in my opinion I'm

But it's also going to continue to drive the conversation. And to David's point, it's going to prevent the Republicans from being able to get to the issues they want to get to, which I have to imagine is driving Donald Trump crazy. So the other point is, he's even made the case that people with kids should have more votes and be able to vote for the kids. So there's a policy element to that as well. The other issue for Vance is his past...

Very, very strong criticism of the former president and current president, current candidate for president. I'll give you a couple. These come from the New York Times, excerpts from J.D. Vance's emails to a classmate of his from Yale Law School. October 23rd, 2014. I hate the police. Given the number of negative experience I've had in the past few years, I can't imagine what a black guy goes through.

October 4th, 2016. Speaking of Trump here, he's a bad man, a morally reprehensible human being. That, by the way, not a singular comment. I mean, he referred to Trump as America's Hitler here. How does this play for him among Republican voters here, right? Because, I mean, to the extent that Fox News is playing this kind of stuff, I mean, some of them are going to see this.

I think what we're seeing here, the fact that Trump came out and cleaned that up shows how uncomfortable members of the party are. But I also think that we don't know this party very well as it is now. In 2016, the party that Trump took was one that was against him, and he was constantly fighting the forces of the establishment and traditional side of the party. And now he kind of owns it, but even he does not know exactly what does that mean and how far can I

and my men go in making these kinds of attacks and they're finding that those lines are interesting but also we have no polling right now of how you will do against kamala and how these kinds of comments when you have a woman running for president how those resonate i think it's really interesting it's ninety eight days out we don't actually know

from just data how this is playing out. - Yeah, and I mean, as you see Trump struggle there to explain some of these comments, you get a sense that even he sees the political sensitivity, potential damage from this. Stay with us, much more to discuss. Coming up next on CNN This Morning, protests in Venezuela after President Maduro is reelected, the government claims, one of the five things you have to see this morning. Plus, relief for the West after just record-breaking heat and a massive wildfire.

25 minutes past the hour, five things you have to see this morning. Protests heating up across Venezuela as Nicolas Maduro claims an election victory. The strongman says he won 51% of the vote, but U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken says he has, quote, serious concerns about those numbers. Maduro's opponent claims he has proof the vote tallies were rigged in Maduro's favor. Torrential rain temporarily turning Dollywood into a water park.

Storms shut down Dolly Parton's theme park on Sunday, caused flash flooding across eastern Tennessee. And this. At first there was, you know, there were a lot of dragonflies and then there was millions. That's funny. I've seen a lot of dragonflies too. An invasion of dragonflies at a Rhode Island beach sending everyone running for cover this weekend. Witnesses say they vanished just three minutes later. Scientists believe the unusually warm water temperatures and strong winds may have steered the dragonflies ashore. That looks pretty scary.

At least 24 people killed by landslides in southern India. Dozens more feared trapped after heavy rains in the state of Kerala. Rescue operations hindered by more rain and a collapse of a crucial bridge. Hundreds of firefighters still battling California's enormous Park Fire, the state's sixth largest fire ever.

It's destroyed more than 111 structures, forced evacuations across four counties. Ronnie Dean Stout is facing multiple charges of arson. He's going to be back in court on Thursday. And some good news out west. Cooler weather on the horizon after record heat and those wildfires. Meteorologist Derek Van Dam joins us. Derek, where and when are we going to see some relief out there?

Yeah, well, it's coming. It's here today. But I first want to show you just this erratic fire behavior that these firefighters have been dealing with on the ground. I mean, this is just a heroic effort by this particular firefighter with some of this newly obtained video footage from CAL FIRE here at CNN. Now, the reason we're experiencing this brief fire

break in the fire conditions is because of a cold front. So this is moving through cooling the temperatures but it's doing a number of things to the weather. Not only is it picking up the wind ahead of the cold front, so making fire weather a bit more erratic, behind it though a rush of higher humidity levels will actually come help, at least help the firefighters contain the wildfires that are ongoing. You can see the cooler weather across the Pacific Northwest. It doesn't last long. We heat up into the rest of the week.

A lot of the heat has shifted eastward. We have 50 million Americans across the central parts of the U.S. under heat alerts, triple digit for many locations. You factor in the humidity levels, downright unbearable. And then I want to point your attention to what's happened overnight across northeastern sections of Vermont, a flash flood emergency for St. Johnsbury. This is in northeastern Vermont where up to five to

Eight inches of rain has fallen, leading to multiple swift water rescues. There aren't many ways to really put this, but Vermont has been hit particularly hard by flooding this year. This type of rain does not happen in such a short period that often. Jim? Yeah, eight inches in six hours, that's crazy. Derek Pimham, thanks so much.

Ahead on CNN this morning, new CNN reporting about exactly how the Supreme Court came to its broad presidential immunity decision. Plus, we're tracking critical primaries and key swing states that could alter the makeup of the Senate.

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We are learning more this morning about exactly how the Supreme Court came to its historic decision on broad presidential immunity in a new exclusive CNN report, sources familiar with the deliberations tell Joan Biskupic, there was an immediate 6-3 conservative majority after oral arguments in favor largely of Donald Trump's immunity claims. Chief Justice John Roberts reportedly made no effort to sway the three liberal justices

to the majority to try and come to a more unified decision. CNN chief Supreme Court analyst Joan Biskupic writes, quote, "All told, Roberts appears to have reached a turning point. His vision for the high court became more aggressive, and he has perhaps shed the aura of ineffectualness that permeated some public commentary in recent years." My panel is back. I just wonder, let's set aside partisanship for a moment, and I want to ask you, David and Kate, on this.

Wouldn't it have been better for the court and the country had there been a more unified decision on this? Find some agreement so it wasn't seen as so purely partisan. Yeah, go ahead. I suspect we may be about to say the same thing. But yes, I think no question. I mean, look, the court has suffered a crisis of public confidence. I mean, that's true for institutions across the board, not just the court. But that has contributed to

a lack of faith and government in elections in the media I mean these are really the these are the threads love when you start pulling at these threads this is how authoritarianism creeps and that sounds dramatic but I think it's true so I'm you know to see a decision like this come down across essentially such partisan divided lines I think only reinforce for people you know I'm I'm right to be in my corner and you know I can choose to look at the court as

you know, an adversary or, you know, or not, depending on my political views, that is a, that's a scary place to be. And I think not good for the country writ large. I mean, whatever you think of the decision on the merits, would the results have been better had it been

more across the board? - Absolutely. I just don't know that you were ever gonna get there. It would be interesting if you asked all the justices behind the scenes, if it were Donald Trump or Joe Biden, would you prefer to give them absolute immunity in terms of their core constitutional powers? I don't know how that would have played out. I suspect they probably would have come to a different resolution, but the reality of this on both sides is the Supreme Court has become

element of politics in American politics today. And I think the American people recognize that, too. I don't think the solving problem, the way to solve this problem is to go as far as President Biden is, which is term limits and expanding the court. I don't think that's the solution at all. I think people just have to recognize the importance of these elections because they have consequences. And one of the consequences is not just that court, but the appellate courts that lie under them and even the federal bench across the country. Well, do you

David mentions President Biden's suggested proposed reforms to the Supreme Court, which as I understand it does not include expanding the court, but he does talk about ethics and he does talk about term limits.

Listen, it's not going to happen today. It may not happen for months or for years. I mean, the political hurdles are enormous. But was that the right message for the president at this time? Well, he needed a message to talk about some accomplishments that he could propose. He is attacking what has been going on, the way rule of law has been starting to show some fissures, some cracks.

He's trying to address that without naming names by talking broadly about presidential immunity and that's how they're coming. I think it's really interesting the point that you made that if it was this president or that president, how would you view it? But I think I'm going to pick up on what Kate said that this is really about

uh american the people's trust in the institutions that govern and it's at a historic low right now and this is not helping it at all the only thing to get at is transparency and that's where it seems biden was headed was toward the transparency and listen the polling to your point the polling shows a massive drop in confidence in the supreme court i think it's below 20 now but also broad public support for reforms to the supreme court including term limits which you see i mean it's like

as I remember, 80, 90%, which has to include Democrats and Republicans. Yeah. And I think, I mean, you've got, like, what Biden's put forward here is an effort to say, you know, the court is also not above the law. And

And I think that that goes to, we've seen, obviously, Donald Trump has continued to make a political argument in his campaign the entire summer that he's above the law. You see Republicans kind of falling in line behind him to say he's above the law. Obviously, the ethics issues that the Supreme Court has struggled with, Justice Thomas in particular, is giving people a sense that the court believes that it's above the law.

and so I think what Biden's trying to do with these reforms is to say no in fact the court is not above the law no one is above the law and that's a really important message and I think that the idea of I believe it's an 18-year term limit he's proposing would also remove the kind of you know the game of tennis between Republican presidents and Democratic presidents in terms of trying you know who gets to put their their justices on the court

which in and of itself, I think, would also help restore a public sense of trust. So it's, you know, I think it's an important thing that he's trying to do. It's going to, you know, it's challenging in Congress, but I think what he's proposing is important. Well, and if the Senate allows a president to bring up their Supreme Court candidates. Exactly. You know, I hate to bring up a sensitive point, but there is that fact of the matter. Very true.

Stay with us. Up next on CNN This Morning, they call him Clark Kent and he just won bronze in Paris. This is a great story. We're going to check in on Team USA at the Olympics in this morning's Bleacher Report. Plus, Ohio Congressman David Joyce is here to discuss the investigation of the assassination attempt on Donald Trump.

So some good news for Team USA. For the first time in 16 years, the U.S. men's gymnastics team has made the podium at the Olympics. And the medal was secured by Team USA's very own Clark Kent. Andy Scholes had this morning's bleacher report. But this is

I mean, the Olympics is always full of great stories about individual athletes. This one is one of my favorites. It's so good. And you know, Jim, the women's team is so good. The men kind of always kind of live in the shadows of that team. But, you know, this year, the men's team, they went to Paris on a mission to get back on that medal stand. And they're led by 20-year-old TikTok star Frederick Richard, the Michigan Wolverine Junior. He was just phenomenal yesterday, especially on the high bar. And his parents...

in the crowd. I tell you what, they were just loving it. They could not be more proud of their son just going nuts the whole time. Now, Brady Malone, Paul Judah, and Asher Hong, they were also stellar for Team USA yesterday. So that set the stage for Steven Nedorosic

And the Pummel Horse Specialist, if he could deliver a flawless routine, the U.S. would medal. And boy did he deliver, and he knew right off the dismount the whole team, Mom Nedorosic to celebrate. Now he's known as Clark Kent because he wears those thick rimmed glasses, and he certainly was Superman yesterday. It got the U.S. the bronze. It's the men's first team medal since 2008, and just their fourth since 1932.

went up there, did my routine and during that dismount. All right, I guess we lost that there. Let's move on to some women's rugby. Meanwhile, they're on the brink of history trying to become the first American side to win an Olympic medal in rugby seven. The Eagles, as they're called, avenging their quarterfinals loss at the Tokyo Games, rallying from a 7-0 deficit to upset Great Britain. Sammy Sullivan scoring to seal the 17-7 victory in advance of the semifinals. They're going to play

the 2020 silver medalist New Zealand 9:30 Eastern this morning. All right, finally, one of the worst things that can happen in baseball happened to Orioles catcher James McCann yesterday. He took a 95 mile per hour fastball right to the face in the first inning, his nose

Certainly likely broken. It was just gushing blood but get this McCann stayed in the game He swapped out got a clean jersey the crowd gave a huge standing ovation when he came back up in the third inning and Jim He's a catcher. So he had to stay the key work catchers coming at you He's got a CT scan to see you know what's going on there, but I mean the toughness I take a fast 95 mile a fastball to the face. I'm probably in a coma

He's okay. I mean, no concussion. I mean, he played the rest of the game. Wow. I would not go back to the game. Incredible. Andy Scholes, great stories as always. Thanks so much. It is 47 minutes past the hour, and here's your morning roundup. Primary day in Arizona. Former news anchor turned MAGA star Carrie Lank seeking the Republican nomination for U.S. Senate. If Lake wins, she will face Congressman Ruben Gallego, who is running unopposed on the Democratic side. And this...

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Turning now to the latest developments in the investigation of the July 13th assassination attempt against former President Trump. Trump confirming last night that he will be meeting with the FBI on Thursday for what's known as a victim interview in which he will tell the bureau exactly what he saw and experienced that day. The news of the interview, which is standard, comes as the new acting director of the Secret Service is set to testify before Congress today.

Ronald Roe took charge after the resignation of the former director, Diane Cheadle. Last week, he is likely to respond to newly released text messages showing that law enforcement was aware of the shooter for some 90 minutes before he opened fire on the former president. The officer who flagged the shooter to his colleagues is now speaking out. He was looking up and down the building and

Just wandering around, it just seemed out of place. We had a text group between the local snipers that were on scene. I had sent those pictures out to that group and advised them of what I noticed and what I'd seen. I assumed that there would be somebody coming out to, you know, speak with this individual or, you know, find out what's going on.

Joining me now is Republican from Ohio, Representative David Joyce. He is one of the 13 members of a bipartisan task force now charged with investigating the Trump assassination attempt. Congressman, thanks so much for joining us this morning. Thanks for having me. So it's our understanding that the director is going to say today that he's ashamed of what he saw there that day. I wonder, what are you hoping to hear from him in terms of hard answers beyond remorse?

Well, you know, I'm sorry, but he should be ashamed. This is a dramatic failure in a presidential protection detail, and it goes to the heart of what we do each and every day. This is a group that cannot afford to make a mistake.

And obviously a lot of mistakes were made that day. And that was on President Trump. They obviously guided President Trump and now Vice President Harris, as well as RFA and four other living ex-presidents. So they've got a lot on their plate, but they need to be at the top of the game all the time. Absolutely.

And I think we want to work together with look at the FBI investigation. Things are being done there, get the facts and then be able to deliver to the American people informative package that shows them what went wrong and what we're doing in places and after action to make sure it doesn't happen again.

The Wall Street Journal is reporting that Trump's would-be assassin, Thomas Matthew Crooks, that he made 25 different gun-related buys online, this between the spring of 2023 and the first half of this year, sometimes purchasing materials with an online alias. I wonder, is your committee going to investigate how he was able to make so many gun purchases online, and should that be a focus of this investigation?

I think the focus is going to be on, again, what the lapse in security was that allowed this guy to get within a perimeter. There's two things that happen at any one of these events. One, when you have a counter-sniper agency, you have people on the ground, also an intelligence group with a Secret Service. On Friday, they should have had a complete walkthrough with all the local agents that they had involved and know where everybody is supposed to be, to a T.

And the only thing that can really explain that 80-plus second delay in the sniper taking action was the fact that he didn't know if that was spread or fall on another roof. That cannot happen.

And so it'll be interesting to see what happened on Friday, who was there, how it was laid out, and why this occurred on Saturday. As to how the suspect got the gun, it is apparent that he got it from the legal weapon that he received from his father. So, you know, the gun aspect of it, while sickening, is also an important part of the investigation. I think more is the complete and after action to figure out what happened and why it happened.

and how it should never happen again. And that's gonna concern what kind of training these folks got. Cheetah was in my office 'cause I used to be the director for the Homeland Security Appropriations. She had agents, she had the money. There had to be some drop in the ball as far as the training of these young men and women. - The shooter, as you know, used an AR-15, which has so often been used in mass shootings in this country. It's enormously powerful, high velocity weapon.

And as you look at this, does it make you reconsider whether this is a weapon that should be available, broadly available for purchase in this country?

Well, I believe in the Second Amendment, and I believe people have the right to own arms. Unfortunately, every now and then you have a kook like this who does something that creates the suspicion as to whether it was a weapon. I know a lot of good people who are gun collectors. Some never even fire the gun. They just like collecting them. I don't necessarily fault the weapon. I fault the suspect, and I fault the lack of follow through on behalf of the agency.

But why wouldn't a gun also be part of the potential response? Because, listen, some guns like this, they have a greater range. They have greater power. I mean, the ease with which he was able to buy gun, make gun-related purchases online

it makes it easier for someone to take a shot at the president. And in the wake of previous assassination attempts, you go back to Reagan's assassination attempt, the Brady Bill that eventually followed, or gun rights, or gun control legislation that followed the assassinations in 1968. Why wouldn't that be a natural part of the response to this assassination attempt?

Well, we only have five months. And so, you know, we want to focus our energy and our time on what happened in Butler, Pennsylvania, and what we can do to make sure that never occurs again. I mean, people have been killing people since biblical times with rocks. People can also buy all the things that are necessary to make a bomb online.

I mean, we can't continue to chase down things that aren't really germane to our purview, which is to make sure that we oversee this investigation and to work around in Pennsylvania on a July day and make sure it never happens again.

Before we go, political question here. Back in 2022, when you were asked about the Republican presidential field, you mentioned there would be a lot of people in the primary, as there was. Of course, Donald Trump emerged from that primary. You said there were a lot of other good quality candidates out there. And I wonder, do you believe that, here we are 98 days from the election, that Donald Trump is the strongest candidate, the best candidate for the Republican Party in this election?

Well, I think our party's filled with great candidates. And obviously, Donald Trump is at the top of the pyramid because he got there through the primary process as a Republican who did run and then all were defeated by him. So he's the winner of the primaries. That's our system. And he's going to be our nominee. He is our nominee. And he's going to be running for president, as you said, this year.

Representative David Choice from Ohio, thanks so much for joining us this morning. We appreciate you taking the time. Thanks for having me. Well, in just a few hours, the Senate is taking up a vote on a set of bills aimed at protecting children online. The bills are expected to pass on a sweeping bipartisan vote, a rarity, as you know, these days in a divided Washington. Senators Richard Blumenthal and Marsha Blackburn led the push from both parties to get the bill across the finish line.

I am hopeful because of the big bipartisan majority that we have today for this bill. It is really just about empowering young people and parents to take back control over their lives online, to make choices that will enable them to disconnect from the evil

that has been driven at them by social media. Once the Senate formally passes COSA, our work is not done. We must ensure that the House quickly passes this bill and sends it to the President's desk.

Democrats and Republicans united on this. I mean, this is, back to the panel here now, a bipartisan issue. It's become quite a vocal one. Yeah, and there aren't many, unfortunately, right now. But, you know, I think there's no question for those of us who have children, you see how your kids interact with social media. It is pervasive. It is dangerous, often dangerous, I should say.

And so seeing Congress actually function as it's supposed to and work across party lines to do something that protects children, that's really the bare minimum that we should expect from our Congress. But it is nice to see it. It's something. I mean, does this bill have teeth in your view? Absolutely it does. And look,

Senator Cruz, my old boss, was a leading champion of this as well. And I think to see that broad, diverse coalition and the numbers that the Senate's going to come out puts a lot of pressure on the House to move and move pretty quickly. And, you know, as parents with, you know, small kids as well, I love not just to see more power and protections, but to make sure that the data that our kids, you know, is not sold and used publicly

for untoward means. And so I'm super excited about this. - To the point that the bill creates a duty of care for social media companies to protect kids online, also gives, has a number of other protections contained. I wonder if this could be a model for other attempts to regulate, here you go, gives minors options to protect information, limits features which drive engagement, and the FTC will enforce these new rules.

Could this be a model for, before we go, other attempts to regulate the tech industry? Because there's a whole bunch of things under discussion. Absolutely. And those probably should come a little bit sooner. 1998 being the last. That was before Facebook, before we had iPhones. So it's great that Congress has done this now, but hopefully this spurs more action. I think one important takeaway is that it's a big hit to

the economic landscape, the finances here. A billion dollars of ad revenue was at stake with this bill because people want to sell products to kids. Yeah. Right? And that's not there. And I think that shows how big of a hurdle it was and that it is huge that we were able to overcome.

It's amazing we're still operating under a 26-year-old law, particularly in the tech world where things move so quickly. I mean, that's just like so outdated, the idea that you had the law going before social media was pregnant. Anyway, kind of wonder, maybe we'd be better without social media to some degree. David, Kate, Saleha, thanks so much for joining us this morning. So much news to digest. I'm Jim Sciutto in Washington, in for Casey Hunt. Today, CNN News Central starts right now.

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