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DJ Akademiks on Kanye’s Comeback, Diddy vs 50 Cent Exposed, & Adam 22 Wife Sharing Reaction

2023/12/19
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DJ Akademiks: 本期节目讨论了与Saucy Santana的对话、对Kanye的看法、Adam22的情况以及Diddy与50 Cent之间的矛盾。他分享了他对这些事件的个人观点和看法,并表达了他对Diddy行为的担忧和恐惧,以及对Saucy Santana威胁的震惊和悲伤。他还谈到了他对“觉醒运动”的不信任,以及他认为应该报警处理Saucy Santana的威胁。此外,他还谈到了他对Kanye音乐生涯的看法,以及他对Ice Spice的评价。他还谈到了他对Fresh and Fit播客的看法,以及他对YouTube去货币化政策的看法。他还谈到了他对Blueface媒体策略的看法,以及他对卡戴珊家族的看法。他还谈到了他对Adam22和妻子关系的看法,以及他对赌博成瘾的看法。他还谈到了他对Charlamagne Tha God和Wendy Williams的看法,以及他对Tory Lanez案件的看法。他还谈到了他对Gunna复出的看法,以及他对Charleston White的看法。他还谈到了他对Matt Rife的看法,以及他对男性外貌的看法。他还谈到了他对Diddy和Cassie关系的看法,以及他对50 Cent和Diddy关系的看法。 Andrew Schultz: 他对DJ Akademiks的观点表示赞同或质疑,并就相关话题发表了自己的看法。他赞扬了DJ Akademiks在嘻哈新闻传播方面的贡献,并就Grandwizzy的种族、DJ Akademiks的减肥、Diddy的影响力、Fresh and Fit播客的现状、Tucker Carlson的媒体策略、特朗普的政治形象、以及DJ Akademiks对Saucy Santana的反应等问题发表了自己的看法。他还就Adam22的营销策略、以及他对Zeus Network和卡戴珊家族的看法发表了自己的看法。他还就DJ Akademiks的赌博成瘾、以及他对Charlamagne Tha God和Wendy Williams的看法发表了自己的看法。他还就DJ Akademiks与其他人的矛盾、以及他对Matt Rife的看法发表了自己的看法。他还就DJ Akademiks对男性外貌的看法、以及他对Diddy和Cassie关系的看法发表了自己的看法。他还就DJ Akademiks对50 Cent和Diddy关系的看法、以及他对Kanye West音乐生涯的看法发表了自己的看法。

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Do you know about the Diddy shit? I'm a little fearful because I've been looking under all my cars in case there's a bomb. He tried to blow up somebody's car and nobody wants to talk about it. Chris Sean Rock, her behavior is like an animal that needs to be euthanized. God damn it. I'm being honest with you. These are uncultured swines. I knew you were going to say swine. Name your number one white person. Oh, man. White people. Oh, we got to put Uncle T up in there. Uncle T. All right, so you vote for Trump. Fair enough. Let's reverse this shit, man. You're not vaccine. I can fucking tell. No, no.

Look at you, breathing air all good. I do think that you have a superpower when you don't get vaxxed. Kyrie hasn't even played out of his mind. I call him No Vax Kyrie. Whoa. How do you come up with that? Yes. What do you guys think about him? Is Kanye's run with music over? Never. Kanye's run is about to start again. I've lost over three minutes. God damn, bro. Ice Spice's greatest performer living right now. Worked for 30 minutes. That shit was amazing.

She had the mic by her booty. All you heard was twerp wind. It was twerp wind. What's up, everybody? Welcome to Flagrant. Today, we are joined by Big Ack. Oh.

Oh, shit. Okay, Afghanistan. DJ Academics is in the building. You're like, that's yours, bro. That's yours. Do I gotta give credit or what? Yeah. I like that. I like that. I like that. To the sky. Listen, bro. Listen, years almost over. There's so much happening. You are our rap TMZ.

Okay. You know this, right? You're proud of me. Most information... You said you're proud of me? Yeah. Good, because most information that we have probably disseminates from you or one of your pupils. Grand Wizard. That's true. Grand Wizard. That's my guy. Grandy.

who we tried to link up when we were on tour in Australia and he wasn't there. No way. Which makes me think he might be Caucasian. Listen, and there's nothing wrong with that. Randy, there's nothing wrong with that. Hey, hey, hold on. Well, first of all, I hit him up. I said, yo, what? He got the N-word pass no matter what. Say it here. Say it here. Say it loud. He good. He good. So no matter what. I'm going to be honest with you, like...

Like, come on. He might even be cool to rock blackface one time. I might have to give it. Yo, he affects culture. I'm sorry. He does. This is the greatest Instagram page right now. I think it's number one. It is the funniest page on Instagram. It's number one. And I see all the other Instagram pages copying his shit. But we need a race reveal. But we do need a race reveal. It's like the Deezus shit. Remember when Deezus was pretending to be white? Wow, we need a race reveal, man.

Oh, so you know he white. No, I don't know. Oh, shit. You've been in cahoots the whole time? No, no. I've told you once. You put on some cracker for this whole fucking time? If he is, this will be the black man putting on the greatest white man since... Charlemagne Tha God? I like that one.

Hey, let it rock. Yo, let him be your Schultz, bro. Yo, that's my guy. Let him be your Schultz. I would love for him to be. By the way, I talked to him. He's super dope, man. Super dope. He said he was in Japan. I'll fuck with him. He said he was in Japan. Come on, man. When we hit him up. He said he was in Japan. Sounds like a Caucasian move. Sounds like some white ass shit. White shit, bro. Black people stand out in Japan. He's black at heart, man. No, I think he's black. I think he's black.

I don't even care what he is, though. Say that. Say it. I really don't care. It's about what's inside. I'm rocking with him no matter what. And if he's not black, we have to get him in a trade. At least, you know, the racial draft, we got to get him on. You got to get him. Who are you giving up? You got to be somebody valuable. Who's a better observer of black culture? No, no, no. Blandy or GTA?

No. Stop playing with me. I'm just saying. I'm just saying. I'm going to tell you who we're training. Were you in the GTA trailer? Nah, but they probably used maybe some characters of me. Hey, we're training either Sexy Red or Christian on Rock. They got to go. Wow. They got to go. Can we talk about how sexy you are, bro? How much weight you lost? Stop it. How much weight you lost? I lost some weight. Stop. I'm eating a warbler. I hate how humble you are, son. Black and slimming.

No, no, don't do that. Why do you want to be fat? Why do you want to be fat? Here's the thing. It's all about illusion on camera, my dude. It's not illusion. You walked in here. We didn't even hear you feed five folks. He was like an earthquake. First of all. I made him hit the elevator. Tell him. My boy thought I had a Fitbit on. He said, yo, by the way, the elevator is broken. You know it wasn't broken. It wasn't broken. We were holding it up here. It's just fat.

Get on top of your thing. What the fuck? Nah, you know, you did me wrong. Nah, you know it took him a while. His girl been here like five minutes before he did it. Son, you messaged me at not, wait, what time is it right now? 9.30. 9.05. It was 9.15. You still weren't here. We thought you had a heart attack. And,

Hey, by the way, no, no, definitely not. But now that you're skinny, you're good. No, no, no. It's the illusion. My man, you've lost weight. Yes. You've lost weight. Last time I was here, you didn't take the elevator. I hate when I get compliments, too. Yo, I don't think you lost no weight, dog. Thank you, man. Yo. Keep it a bean. Nah. Yo, people like him.

They tell you this shit, then you go home. Is that a white thing? Is that a white thing? Nice people, kind people. I'm trying to recognize your progress. I bet Gray Wizards does the same shit to you all the time. The couch is even. Last time you were here, this shit was like this. It was a seesaw. The couch is even. What you mean? You live.

When I go home and I when I go to like, you know a family event Yeah, your parents at least black parents. They let you know quickly. Damn you fat both of them. Are there well I mean everybody could be your brothers of like damn you gain more weight So you're telling me I lost it. They told me I gained it. They didn't say you can't wait bro. Stop lying. Not it's your weight Hold on. I play this immigrant. Well, they're never content. They'd be like damn you need to lose weight. Oh

So, he'll be like, damn, I thought I lost. That's fair. That's fair. I mean, listen, you're not Chris Hemsworth. I mean, you know who that is. You don't know who that is. That's Thor, son. That's Thor. You're not Thor.

Yo, hey, hey. He thought that was Chris Hemsworth, right? The only thing I get, like, I do be getting a little tight at times with, because they be thinking that when they see me in person, or like, you know when they tag you in a meme, like it's a doppelganger? Yeah. The people be fat like Drewski and motherfucking like DJ Khaled. Am I that fat? No. Yes. You're skinny now. What do you mean, yes? He's Drewski. Oh, no.

No, this guy's a hater. He ain't no hater. He is a little bit of a hater, bro. Hey, hey, hey, listen. I started to stop. Yo, I started to stop watching. How long until Al start hating on me? Yeah, immediately. You're a little bit of a hater, bro. I just want to know. It's better if you fat shame because then you're going to get skinny. I'm helping you out. Yo, that's a good point. You're going to.

I will say, we could be enabling you right now by being kind. Yes. He said his parents fat shaming. No, they do it worse. They do it in the worst extreme. You will leave Thanksgiving dinner and be like, I need to throw this shit up. Put my finger down my throat. Really? What are they saying? Did they call you Fatty Boy?

- He's not a fish, he's a whale. - They're watching. - Tell me this shit, is it true that you can't eat, you don't say I eat fish? - Yeah, you don't say I eat fish in Jamaica. Jamaicans will say they eat fish, they say they eat sea creature.

Well, yeah, fish is like a little Nas X of Saucy Santana. Yo, be honest. Were those tears real with Saucy, bro? Of course. Stop it. Stop it. You know I'm not that. Like, you know everything is real with me. I think you're a actor. I hate it again. I hate it again. Stop it. I hate it again. Stop watching. Wait, wait, wait. Stop watching. I'm agreeing with you. Those were crocodile tears.

What is crack it out? Why you call him crack it out? You think I was like, what? Fuck no. Al Drezor attached to his hat. I'm going to be honest with you. He's got a Jamaican beanie on right now. Listen, listen. I just had to hate. I had to balance the hate. I had to balance the hate. Wait a minute. You're telling me. You were.

You were agreeing with me? Yes. Fuck you. No, no. So tell me, with the saucy tint, what were you crying about? Bro, I'm going to be honest with you. I'm going at everybody. So now seeing how slim you are, bro, I don't blame it. I don't blame it. I don't blame saucy. I don't blame it. I don't blame it. Saucy throw that at a fat ass. I'm like, we can't do that. We can't do that. We can't do that. Oh, that's why you're trying to gain the weight back. No.

I'm losing the weight now. I got to get out of here. He's trying to get the weight back. Apparently he likes BBMs. I'm like, yo, I got to get out of here. Tell me what's happening to a beautiful male. I'm trying to respond to him, but he fucked me up. Listen, let me tell you this. I love my favorite part of live show. Take me back to the moment, bro. My favorite part of responding to everybody. I've gone at everybody. I mean, little baby. I've gone at

Some of the biggest killers I've gone at. Like, I mean, I don't necessarily go at women, but I'll defend myself, whatever. Yeah, yeah. You're the prize. You're the prize. You're the prize. Ow, why you hating? Man, again, dog. Why you hating? It was always the other brother. Like, yo, what's up with this man? Crab's in a barrel, dog. Crab's in a barrel, man. Crab's in a barrel, bro. I'm green anyway. What you mean? Yo, Grant was just blackening him. Yo.

I don't know if there's anybody black in the alley. He better be with that fucking IG, nigga. He better be. What you mean? Grand wizard chat, nigga. He better be. I just vote if you think about it. He black. Grand wizard. Do you know what that is? Yeah. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Wow. No, no, no, no. I'm just salty that he didn't leave Japan to come to the show. That broke my heart. He was in Japan. He probably was there. So come back, bro. Japan not going anywhere. Fly him out.

Yo, yeah. I should have flew you out. Salty Santana, that's you, bro. You could have flown him to Australia. I'm on my stream and it's the first time I'm ever arguing with a guy. He's gay and he's like, yo, you Bati boy. I'm like, what? Wow. Who said that to you? The gay dude. Who? Saucy. He said live that you're a Bati boy?

Hey, now you got to realize. I think it just evoked emotion in you again. No, no, no. You got to realize. He called you the B word, bro? Yo, listen. It starts affecting my sensibilities at that point. I'm going to be honest with you. What happens to you? Like my ancestors. I feel like, you know, I'm going to be honest. All that shit happened because I'm sitting there and I'm like, what could I say to him that could be hurtful? Because that's what I do. I'm not going to lie. Some of these things I'm not proud about. But if I know your girl is cheating on you, I bring it up.

If I know any dirt about you when we're going at it, oh my God. If they call you a Bati boy. Well, that never happens. What does that word mean, Bati boy?

What is a bati? Is that a butthole? That is a big body. Way to say buttocks. Yes. Oh, so it's a butt boy. You're a butt boy. But if you like butts, he's calling you a top. Hold on. Well, you got to realize. No, you got to stop. It's a compliment. I'm a gay guy. He's like, yo, he didn't call you fish. He said he called you a fat ass. That's a compliment.

That's what he said. If he said you had a fat ass, you would think it was a compliment. Hell yeah. Al has no ass. Al has a negative ass. I've been trying to get that Kyle Lowry for a long time. Kyle Lowry's ass is crazy, bro. Hey, I'm going to be honest with you. So,

It's probably the one time that I usually take jokes, and I'm usually joking most of the time when I'm clowning people. Honestly, I'm really upset. You just felt too real when he said it to you? It's not too real. It's the first time culturally I felt offended. Because he said he was going to dig you. Before that, I didn't even see that yet.

So before he said he was going to have sex with you in your butt. Because where I grew up in Jamaica, culturally, the two worst things to be, and I said this the other night on the podcast. JLP. No. The two worst thing to be, worse than a murderer, worse than anything in the world, is gay.

And second of all, a bocat, which means if you do an oral sex... Oh, you eat pussy? Yeah, yeah. Those things are like, yo, you're the worst. Like, the worst. Yo, yo, yo. So when he said that to me, I'm like, that's... Bocat is a Jamaican term? Yeah. What do you think the term was? I thought that was from Ilhan's podcast in...

In England? The Turks? No, no, no. Everything originates from Jamaica, man. Everything cool in England is from Jamaica. Jamaica and Toronto, those are like our cousins. You know what I mean? They come over, they get a cup of slang, and they go over there and they misuse the fuck out of it. Really? To the point that we think that they own it.

You never see that little white girl in Toronto and she's speaking like it's pretty much broken patois, which is like Jamaican language. We got a little broccoli. We love Toronto. But take this back. Take us back to this moment. So you're already feeling sensitive because he called you a homosexual. And also— Is it a he or she? How does Saucy— I don't know. How does Saucy identify? He. He. Sure. He's a gay man. He called you— He has a BBL and a beard, acrylic nails.

I don't know. That's the sauce. I think that's, yeah. That's fire, bro. Might have some titty implants. I don't know. Really? So James Harden. Making my James Harden. He's making my James Harden. Right now. Shout out to Saucy. See, this is why I want to talk about this topic. You brought it up. I didn't bring it up. I can't be laughing too much talking about this guy. This is a serious topic. Wait, why is it so serious? Because the joke is going to violate you.

Then, by the way, so the first time I responded, I responded twice. What if he said he was going to bow your cap? Yo, I watched him say on the second one, because everyone was like, yo, why are you getting bent out of shape? You didn't even see the second half of the video. I'm like, second half of the video? Yo, I played the second half of the video. He says, I'm going to knock you out and fuck you in the ass. And I'm going to be honest with you.

That is so fire. Son, imagine. Son, imagine. That's crazy, bro. Imagine you talking shit to somebody. No, no, we're not imagining. What are you doing right now? That's some gangster shit. That's some DMX shit. That's fire. That's DMX. That's so fire. You think DMX should be fucking dudes in their ass? About three times.

Mike said it. Mike Tyson said it. I'll fuck it so you love me. DNX said some horrific worst shit on a... Listen, when he said that, I sat on a live stream trying to respond to him and I do everything off the cuff and I'm trying to create whatever I can say that is offensive but would affect him. Off the cuff act. No, no. And I remember saying to myself,

What you need, it's like the drink thing. After I done exposed that you're hiding a child, you better tell me some crazy shit. So I'm about to say it, and then I'm like, I just saw. I'm going to let you. No, I saw the dollars just like floating out of my bank account. I just seen cancellation. And I was just like, it's the first time I'm fighting with my hands tied behind my back. Not only did this guy offend me to the core, because at this point. What were you going to say? No, no, I wasn't going to say nothing.

What would B.E. be the most offended by? You like pussy. You're a bo-cat. What if you called him a bo-cat? That would work. I'm going to knock you out there and let you eat my pussy. Anything I would have said, they would have... What if you knocked him out and then sat a pussy on him? I can't fight a gay dude. Would you fight a gay dude? If he's fighting me, he's a dude. Nah.

So you'll defend yourself against women? No, no, no. I'm a bastard. This guy is crazy. You can't fight a gay dude. Who says who? Listen, a gay dude is no win. A gay dude, if he's violating you or if he's encroaching on your space, you got to shoot him.

That's true. You can't fight a game. Why? Because if you lose. Yo, if you lose, you definitely lose. And if you win, you probably still lost. Oh, because. Now, take us back to this moment where you said he's going to knock you out and then he's going to. Shoot him. You can't have physical combat with a game dude.

I told you. What about slap fight? No, hell no. What about slap fight? That's what they do. What about titty twister? The strongest muscle in a gay man's body is right here. They fight like girls. Hell no. Oh, I thought from jerking dicks. I didn't think they would fight like that. Yeah, yeah, they fight like girls. Nah, nah, I couldn't do it.

Oh, you think that Saucy could beat you up in fisticuffs? Into straight fisticuffs? I wouldn't give him a chance. Is that why you're getting in shape? Are you preparing for a boxing match? Yeah, I'm getting in shape to run. I'm going to be honest. I would probably run. You would run if run. A fucking gay dude with a BBL with a fucking full-on beard and some titties and acrylic nails. Yeah, I'm running from that, bro. Now, what if he knocked you out?

How do you knock me out? I ran. Let's say, for example, he knocks you out, right? That's like my greatest fear. Wait for it, wait for it. The last moment of consciousness, you hear Saucy's like, what is this? Oh my God. Like, Jesus Christ. I wake the fuck up. That's crazy. That's good. Stay asleep. Listen, listen. Let's say you wake up. Let's say you wake up. No, no, no. Saucy's pulling his skirt up. No, no. What? What? No. No.

Let's just say, what are you doing at that moment? By the way, you know what? Why would you bring this up? No, no, no. Do you press charges? No, no. This is why... Of course, I would. This is why... This is why...

I finally understood. This is why I don't believe in that woke movement. Yo, big Afghanistan. This is why I don't believe in this woke progressive movement. Talk to us. Everybody's here talking about, yo, you know, Cassie's in freak offs. It feels bad for her. She wouldn't go to the cops. I would have went to the cops. Here's the thing. This dude threatened male rap. Like, Jesus Christ. You would have got a rap kit. I don't know how that goes. I don't know how that goes.

You gotta go get a kid. You gotta walk into an NYPD precinct and be like, I need a kid. And they're gonna be like, where's the girl at? You gotta be like, the girl is right here. You can't laugh about male. You see that thing, man? No, you can laugh about hypothetical male. Hypothetically, we could laugh. That was a threat and a promise.

If you said it. If you made it a promise. That's not a promise. He said it. But that don't make it a promise. I promise it's different. Did he swear to God? Shit, does he believe God? Did he swear to Madonna? Hey, listen. Who did he swear to? Imagine if I said the same thing.

About anybody. Bro, bro, bro, bro. Don't do that. Don't do that. So that's what I'm telling you. That's why tears flew down my face, man. I was like, I know how to handle it. I'm like, wow, I finally met the match. And it's not the killers who claim to have 40 bodies. The guy who's as 30 goons, the person with the, the, my ultimate match was a gay dude who said he would fuck me in the ass. Wow. And flatlined.

He got it. He won. He won. You got to give him that. Crying kind of proved him right, I feel like. You know what I mean? That's kind of a bad team move. Yo, hold on. It's my worst fear. What's your worst fear? Like, that's the worst fear. What is it? Like, yo, listen. Yo, I heard these rappers be like, yeah, when we see you, we're going to jump you, son. Like, nigga, we're going to shoot you. Yeah, like, you come here. We got money on your head. Shut up. Yo, I'm knocking you out and fuck you in the ass. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God.

I'm sorry. Sorry. I cried too. You see how fire that threat is. You cry? No, it's not. I literally was watching. No, it's not. That shit was the notebook. Yeah. Bro, because I just imagine you coming to and he's just playing with your chest hairs. Bro, stop it. Stop it. Pen your hair. Give me a twist. Yo, he's redoing your hair. Yo, these braids ain't tight enough. You know what else ain't tight? Oh, man.

I was going to jump in, but I couldn't. It was too much for me, too, sir. Why would you bring this up, yo? Yo, Al, man, like, listen. Yo, I ain't jump in. You a brother at the end of the day. I ain't jump in. He is a brother at the end of the day. Ever since you let Schultz get his little weird-ass haircut, you got him acting up now, man. Yo, you happy?

acting up since you let me get this weird ass haircut. You jerk. You real fucking asshole. Yo, stop letting me get haircuts like this. This guy's an asshole. Announcement, the live tour. We added another show in Chicago. There might be some tickets left. You go get that right now. The North America tour is happening. We added a bunch of more shows in other places. Miami, we added. Dallas, we added. We added Boston, okay? We added another one in Philadelphia. We added two more in San Francisco. Go.

Go get those right now. We also have Houston. We have Austin. We have Charlotte. We have Atlanta. We have Nashville. It's wild. Go get those tickets right now if they are still available. I know we got Phoenix as well. That's almost sold out. Theandrewschultz.com. Thank you guys so much. I cannot wait for y'all to see this. Peace.

All right, guys, listen up. Tour dates. I'm coming back to Europe, UK. Thank you guys so much. London shows were fucking crazy. Other two cities, I haven't done them yet. I'm assuming London will be awesome, but you know, whatever. We're recording ahead a little bit. Anyway, point is, January 6th, 8th, and 9th, I'm going to be in Oslo, Amsterdam, and Eindhoven. January 18th through the 20th, I'm going to be in DC at the Improv. I haven't even announced those tickets on my socials yet, and they're already almost sold out. So thank you guys so much.

January 26th and 27th, I'm coming to Utah for the first time in my life. Wise Guys Comedy Club, very excited to be there. Also, February 2nd and 3rd, I'm excited for this. San Jose Improv is a beautiful comedy club. A lot of Indians there. I expect every motherfucker

with an H1 at Silicon Valley to be at those shows. March 1st and 2nd, Greensboro. April 11th through 13th, Tempe. Those tickets will sell out, I'll tell you right now. And we're doing it again, April 18th through 20th. I'm coming to Denver. You know what that means, a 420 show in Denver. Your boy's gonna get high on stage. So go to akashsingh.com to cop those tickets. Thank you guys so much for an awesome 2023. I can't wait for 2024. Let's get back to the show. Somebody gotta sauce you up with you. Why, why, why, why, why? She like me? Hey.

Is he like me? You got to get the pronouns right. He'll fuck you up over that shit. Yeah. Hold on. Yeah, yeah. Hold on. He will fuck you up. Hold on. Saucy. Saucy male. At times. But from the back, what is it? What is it from the back? What is it from the back? It's a BBL though. Good time. Who cares? Why all of a sudden we care about BBLs when it's a dude? When it's a girl, we never care about BBLs. BBL, bro?

Do you care about... Okay, would you look at Saucy and his ass? Yeah, why not? Absolutely. I would love that.

Bring it up right now. Yo, yo, bring it up right now. Bring it up right now. I had a really gay episode recently. I was told about it. No, no, no, no, no. It was idiots. It was them. It wasn't y'all. It was them. He wants to fuck you. Yes. Not at all. Only if they fight. I don't want to fuck you. Let's see it. Oh, you missed it. I'm pulling up the actual, the actual. Oh, shit. Mark got a great ass. Oh, yeah. Mark got a fantastic ass. But let's see what sauce he working with.

Come on, Ack, you got that. I'm not overly impressed. Nah, but that's like... Yo, Akash, man, you can't handle that? Nah, he's saying he could. You could. I feel like I could. That's big Akash, man. Yeah, that's big Ack as well, bro. That's big Ack as well. Akash got the hammer, bro. The Hindu hammer. And play this. You and Saucy, you make all the blogs. You know what they would call it? Like interracial stuff. They'd be like, yo, y'all swirling. The swirling.

Now that's fire. Shout out to you, Saucy. Oh, put that on. Let me see that one. Oh, come on. This is crazy. This is your show right here. Hold on, hold on. Yo, Al, you gotta stop. Yo, Al, you gotta stop. Yo, hold on one second. This is on your page, bro. Hold on one second. Yo, Al, you gotta stop. Objectively, let's just be objective here. Go on. Press play. Let's just see ass. Objective. Let's just be objective here.

Yo, that's wild crazy. Hold on. You don't think that the ass is all right? Nigga, that's wild crazy, bro. You're a hater, bro. We just talking about ass. We're not talking about anything else. It's gay men, bro. So? So what? We're just that part of a human flesh. You're not down with this type of fuckery, are you? What do you mean? This is a fake ass. You don't judge fake asses. Indians don't rock like that? Indians, there's 1.4 billion of us. We rock every kind of way. No way. Have you not seen the Kama Sutra?

There's two niggas in there? Nah, bro. I don't... I don't know if they'd describe it that way, but... Yeah, there might have been some shit going down. Nah, shout out to... Put it like this. I'm just saying, objectively speaking, you could say if somebody has a nice... You can't say Idris Elba is objectively golden. Let me ask you a question. Idris Elba, objectively? They just perform like Saudi Arabia and some shit. Would they fuck him?

Yeah. Would they have sex with him? Yeah. They'll throw that thing over the top of a building. So now you're making a statement based on facts. I would recommend that Saucy does not go there and hit on dudes. That's what I would recommend. Yeah, but we in America. But we in America, bro. Exactly.

It's hard to get someone up in the building against their will. This one I realized, but America lets too much fucker go down, man. Talk to me, talk to me, talk to me. You talking about the Diddy situation? I mean, everything. Like, some of this shit is just too next level. Do you know about the Diddy shit? Like,

Like, give me all the back. Is Diddy done or is this just going to be like another? I'm going to be honest with you. I'm a little fearful because I've been looking under all my cars in case there's a bomb. He tried to blow up somebody's car and nobody wants to talk about it. Kid Cudi. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He tried to blow up Kid Cudi's car. Do you really believe that? Do you think Kid Cudi did it to himself? Yeah, and everybody like, look, think about this.

Well, no, I definitely think he did. And also, here's the thing. You know he slapped J. Cole, right? Ever since he slapped J. Cole, J. Cole been riding the tricycle around Tribeca for like the last three years. He ain't been in a car, not an Uber, nothing. All right. Then he slapped J. Cole. I thought J. stepped to him and it got broken up. Nah, he slapped J. Cole, dislocated Drake's shoulder. It's a bad thing. Dislocated Drake's shoulder? Yeah. Which shoulder? You let him do that to you again? To your mans. I wasn't there. To your mans, though. That's great. You said your top two or three Drake fans in the world. That's right.

And you just let Diddy. The story I heard was that he stepped to Drake. He started getting a little rowdy. I don't know if he really hit Drake, but really apparently security broke it up. And when they grabbed Drake, they surely got this. That makes a lot more sense. Yeah. But still, you got to give Diddy the chance. Diddy slapped a nigga with a kettlebell. That's a one for Diddy. With a kettlebell? Oh, yeah. Do you remember the thing at UCLA? His son's football coach or some shit like that. It wasn't like the son started. It was a bum. It was like, yo, you're not letting my son start? I'm Diddy. That's a good father. Slapped him with a kettlebell. That's a good father. Come on, man.

That's a violent man. That's a good father, though. That's a violent man. Probably not a great husband. Right now, everything's going on. Nobody wants to talk about him. I don't want to be a sacrificial lamb. Why does nobody want to talk about him? I don't know. Are people afraid of Diddy's influence? Is that what this is? Duh. I'm watching, bro. It is something like Charmin. Tell the truth, bro. Go ahead. Oh, hell no.

Oh, hell nah. Like, I'm on my own. You think Charlamagne won't talk about Diddy? Nobody will talk about it. Listen, I called Joe. Joe said, Ack, you're only on with this one, man. I'll catch you on the next scandal. I'm like, what? What the fuck? Really? Yeah. So, and explain the influence of Diddy, because I'm seeing people dropping him left and right. Play this. I don't, like, I don't know what they might be fearful of. Did Diddy kill Aaliyah? I don't know. Why he put Aaliyah on? Why is she involved in this? I thought she, it was like a faulty plane, but you never know. He blew up a car, you never know. Might have, I don't know. But why Aaliyah?

You tell me, Al. You tell me, Al. I just threw some words together. You made some reality out of this. Well, I'm going to be honest with you. It started with a bad year for Diddy with the Pac situation. I feel like everybody who was either not even really in tune with what was going on now has solved the crime thanks to Vlad TV. And we now— Yo, shout out DJ Vlad, bro. I know you're upset at me, man. What'd you do to him?

I think I'd... I think I'd... I don't know. I said he couldn't come on the show or something. Bring him on. I know I should bring him on. He was on Brilliant. What do you mean? Yeah, bring him on. I think maybe it was Flagrant or something like that. Not that he couldn't come on, but we couldn't do it in the time that he said. Are you beefing with my mans? Nah, I like Vlad, bro. You're pinning K-Zo, you too. Axe mad at me. Why is Axe mad at you?

out of you. My mans from Fresh and Fit was like, yo, damn, that dude still hating on us, man. Wait, what's up with Fresh and Fit? Are they still doing it? They're cooling. But are they still doing the pod? Yeah, of course. You mean they're still doing it. You're not watching? I didn't know that they were still doing the pod. Do you think they died? No, I don't know. Maybe... They got demonetized. You know, it was a minor setback for a major comeback. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. Don't laugh like that. I was just expecting that. Hey.

No, but tell us, so what's going on? Like, are they still, but they're still doing a pod? They're still doing a pod, man. That's fire, bro. They got some different monetization strategies. What else are they working on? What's their different monetization strategies? Yo, what's up with y'all, man? Yo, what's their different monetization strategies? Nah, hold on, man. I don't like how y'all, I feel like y'all been You brought them up! I,

I ain't bringing them up. You brought them up. Don't be upsetting us for shit. You bring them up. I'm praying on my man's downfall. Praying on downfall? You asked me if we watched their podcast. I'm a 40-year-old man who's happy. Why would I watch that podcast? I only watch it when I'm fighting with my wife. I'll be like, these guys get me. These guys understand, bro. They understand women. Four days every month that I watch that shit probably. Hit them from where you want them to move.

Yo, it hits. On the red days. On the red days. Red day after the pill. Can you still watch it? Do they have their own website? Or how do you watch the podcast? It's on YouTube still. What do you think it's at? I thought that was...

I thought the podcast got taken off YouTube. No, it got demonetized. That's a new way. What does that mean? So YouTube. Daddy said they can't make money. Well, yeah, YouTube is doing this new thing, which by the way, I'm going to be honest with you. I think a lot of people are celebrating this just because right now it's affecting people that they don't like, but it's going to affect everybody because they're using it as a tool. Right? And it's not. Freedom of speech. They're using it for political people. Like, for example, Stephen Crowder. Are you sure?

Huh? Are you sure? What? This is all going to happen? No, it's happening now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, it's happened to- So what are they saying you can't do? What is the guideline? I mean- Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yo, come on. Fill us in, bro. Check it out. Check it out. You keep on bringing these things up and being bashful. No, because... How do they watch it? On YouTube. Go to YouTube.com, type in Fresh Infant. Why do you see this about guys right now? And scroll to the bottom of the... Why is this about guys? And give them a couple bucks, yo. Give Fresh Infant a couple bucks. I don't think they can get donations anymore. They can't get donations? I don't think so.

I don't. Is there a PayPal or something? I thought you guys were cool with them. Yo, we're going to set up a GoFundMe for Fresh and Fit. We're going to set up a GoFundMe for Fresh and Fit. No, you never liked them. I had no problem with Fresh and Fit. Nah, you hated them. We brought them on the pod. We're fans. You climbed the hell out of them. Or you tried to. We gave them a Fresh and Fit shot. Yeah, we did. Tell us the website where we could donate to them. YouTube.com.

No, because they can't get donations. They're demonetized. How can we give them money? Why are you dissing them? How can we give them money? No, Rumble.com. Just go to Rumble.com. And then we can give them money on Rumble? Yeah, yeah. You've been saying YouTube this whole time they've been on Rumble. Yeah, they're on both. They're on both? Yes. Oh, wow. Why aren't you guys on Rumble?

Well, because we're not forced to be. Usually you go to Rumble if you're forced to be. No, no, no. But I do think we're in an age where I think you should use all platforms. I like that Tucker Carlson is putting shit out on X. I agree. Yeah, yeah. I think you're supporting, like, look at me. Tucker's doing it on X for a different reason, but yeah. I'm on YouTube. I'm on Rumble. I'm on Facebook. Yo, I'm streaming on Facebook. Tucker's not on X anymore.

This is high-level media chess if you want to know why Tucker's on X. Like, the highest level media chess. Break down the play. Because I don't get it. All right. Because I seen, what's my guy from Value Team? He was like, yo, we offered him. Oh, Patrick Bette. Yeah, he's like, yo, we offered him, motherfucker, like $100 million. $100 million? And that was real. I asked him about it. Yeah, but it sounds like. No, it was real. He had $100 million liquid.

Patrick's got more than that liquid. Really? Yeah. But, I mean, I don't want to count pockets, but yeah, he could do that. I always count pockets. That's my thing. But you don't need a liquid to offer it. I do love that you do that. Of course. I'm a rapper. You got to. I mean, it's public. His pockets are public. You sell a company, it's public. Oh, which company is that? His company. He sold it for $200. You do some Googling later. Anyway, the point is, the Tucker shit, so Tucker was working at Fox, right? Yeah, yeah. Fox has this insane lawsuit that they lose.

The voting booth lawsuit with Dominion. Yeah. Now, how do you kill a story? You think they killed it with getting rid of Tucker? You kill a story. I thought he was kind of culpable a little bit. Well, for something else. You kill a story with another story. Yeah, yeah. I'm getting aggressive. He gets fired.

And now everybody's just talking about- Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. Get in there. You ever get into bar fights with him? That's crash out juice right there. Oh, it is crash out juice. Are we crashing out tonight? We might crash out. I'm trying to say, Rupert Murdoch was basically like, yo, people got to stop talking about his Dominion lawsuit. This shit is crazy. We have to sacrifice somebody. We're going to sacrifice the number one guy in cable ratings. He was the most popular guy there that was even appealing to other people across the aisle, right? What happens-

Tucker comes out, he starts to talk a little bit, right? He starts to talk a little bit. He's like, oh, this is kind of what was happening over at Fox. All of a sudden, the Washington Post gets hold of a text that Tucker sent. They had like kind of racial tones in it. Do you remember that text? Like, this is not how white people fight. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Now, what do you think that is?

He's racist, but I don't Fox is racist. No, that's Fox News going behave boy We got all that shit. We got everything you texted Okay, so we're just I didn't get the text message cuz they have his phone company everything on the phone. It's a company phone Oh, it's a company. It's really stupid to text. So so basically racist You don't put that text out on

On your platform, because no one will believe you, you put that text out on the opposition, Washington Post, liberal newspaper. Everybody got to believe it if it's going to be dropped on a liberal newspaper. This is like high-level media warfare. This is why— I'll fuck with Tucker, though. No, Tucker's interesting. Tucker's very interesting. I like my white people with a little bit of racism.

They keep it real. Go on that. If white people... Grandy? No, no, no. Stop playing my... Hey. If white people... We love you, Grandy. Too much like black people, I think it's fake. Something, something. Bro. As soon as I seen Hillary with the hot sauce in her purse, get her out of here. Yeah. I agree with you. Yo, I like my white people with a hint of...

of racism. I used to tell Charlie. That's my guy Trump. That's my Trump's my guy. I used to tell Charlie. He keeps it a bean. Look at his pocket. He does. He lets you know, he's like, yo, I'm cool with the blacks. I'm like, yo, I get it. I get it. I dap him up. I saw that. I saw that. You were hyped or what? Yo, the first thing I dap him up. Did he know you? Hell nah. But the first thing when I dap him up,

So I'm like, yo, so I'm just like, just like trying to bring it like the, so I said, yo, you, uh, you pardon Kodak Black. And the first thing he says to me is like, yeah, I did that. Then he tells me the other things he did. Like? It's like, I got back A$AP Rocky. A$AP from Sweden. And I also pardoned Lil Wayne. What he said in the most whitest voice ever. Lil Wayne. Exactly. And I was like, yo, I like him, yo. I'm voting for him next time. So he got you with the charisma. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, of course. But he's real. Like, anybody who's too fake that seems too loving, like, we all got little biases and prejudices, okay? And it's normal. Obviously, it's normal. You got to be a little racist so people know you're not racist. Facts. That's how you get me. You got to be a little racist so people know you're not racist. If you seem like, I think Joe Biden's the most racist motherfucker ever.

Joe? Yeah. He dropped the N-word in the Senate. Well, I mean, they try to act like he grew out of it. Like, yo, he's so old, he probably forgot. You know what I mean? But I think- Then you get so old, you start just doing it because you forget things. Like, he might forget that he can't say that word. Oh. I think that's the only thing-

Who are we voting for up here? Y'all can tell? I don't vote. You don't vote? What the fuck? You a citizen? Yeah. What the hell is going on here? It's a valid question, actually. Who the hell? Who you voting for? Biden or Trump? Who you voting for? I got Trump, man, all the way.

Trump 2024, of course. Low key? I've been calling him Uncle Trump. Shout out to my man, Kodak. You going RFK? RFK. That's some soft shit, bro. Son, his voice is fire. I want to hear that for four years. Yo, what's up with his voice? Real talk. He's S-cap. S-cap. That's smoking like cigarette smoke? No, no. When you're on Vax, I think that's what you sound like. No, no. I'm on Vax, too.

You didn't get vaxxed? Hell fucking no. You got vaxxed? That's what I'm talking about, bro. You didn't get vaxxed. I got the first one. Oh, gosh. I got vaxxed. You speak it to a whole lot. I got vaxxed. I got vaxxed. Wait, y'all got vaxxed? We all got vaxxed. Hey, we all got vaxxed. Damn, y'all might give me some shit. We did projects with reputable companies. We all got vaxxed. I mean, he did some stuff. Hey. I ain't gonna lie. I was faking paperwork and everything. Hey, hey. We would never do something like that. No. We can't do that? To do reputable projects. Yeah.

But you, you are, you're not Vax, and I can fucking tell. Look at you breathing air all good. Yeah, slimming down. I do think that you have a superpower when you don't get Vax. Like Kyrie Irving. Like Kyrie Irving played out of his mind. I call him No Vax Kyrie. You know what I mean? Whoa. How you come up with that? That was crazy, bro. Take us through the process of that name. Like how you came up with that name. Take us from like square one. Hey, listen, fuck the name, man. Listen, I'm not Vax.

And I'm not, I wasn't that opposed to it. I'm really just scared of needles. I'm not even that, I don't even stand on principle. I don't even stand on business, man. I'm just scared of needles. I didn't get it. Can you, if the vaccine came, he doesn't want to get penetrated. If that vaccine came with a nice little pill that was candy, candy flavor, I would have took that bitch in a second. So you would prefer orally is what you're trying to say. I don't know what you're talking about. That's kind of what you said. He,

He prefers candy. He wants candy. He likes something a little sweet. All right, so you vote for Trump. All right, fair enough. Hold on, hold on. Let's reverse this shit, man. Back to Diddy, man. What y'all think about Diddy, man? Hmm. Look at y'all over here. I think he did all that shit. I'm trying to give you a full answer. You think he did all that shit? I think he did all that shit. Wait, what is all of it? What is all of it? Everything Cassie said, everything Kid Cudi said, everything everybody else won't say, he did that shit. You got a car?

Yeah, 2011 Honda Accord. What's up? I was going to say, he blows up Tesla's too. I don't think he did all of it, and I think people lie. But I think once you start, I think there might be things that he did do. And once you have been abused by something or somebody, every other behavior is also abuse. Bro, that was long. I'm not going to lie to you. You know what I'm saying? In other words...

He did some fucked up, let's say, for example, hypothetically or allegedly, he did some fucked up shit to Cassie, right? Yeah, yeah. Horrible, abuse her, beat her, do that kind of shit. Now, allegedly, now let's say they're having a party.

And there's another dude there. And all of a sudden, he's like, yo, fuck that dude. I don't know if he's going, hey, you have to do this and don't do anything but this. He might think, yo, we just parted and this is what we do. We're on some freak shit. But once she's experienced abuse, now she's like, all of this is abuse. Does that make sense? Listen, I ain't gonna lie. And this is why I'm glad I'm not too much in the industry. Like, D.D.D.ed me over me talking about his side chick, calling her a side chick. Which is a side chick?

Young Miami, I was fucking up his pimp game because, you know, he got like a rotation like 50 bitches, but he's a billionaire. He's supposed to. So like when I was like clowning her and she was in her feelings and shit like that, I guess she was like, yo, yo, this guy keeps calling me a side chick. Well, she is. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Why? Why is she a side chick? Why can't she be the main and the other ones are side chicks? Come on, man. She's a damn side chick, man. He had a baby on her. He had a baby on her.

The baby on her, like, you know what I mean? Like, come on. Where do you learn this stuff? Like, how much do I have to donate to Fresh Infant to learn this? This is so cool. This is so cool. You seem so cool. Where do I donate? It's rumble.com slash fresh infant.

I'm on rumble2rumble.com slash academics. I'm not donating. Yeah, but you don't need the money like that, bro. Come on. Yo, this is big ass. Bust down. Frozen Santos. Hey, hey, hey. You got the Dini might be after me. Hey, I got to tell you the story. This is before all this shit happened. And listen, listen.

Y'all are like industry motherfuckers at this point. We're industry, bro. We are part of the industry. We're part of the industry. I am the blue pill. Okay, yeah. Well, your headline in Madison Square, I could tell you have went to the Illuminati. I mean, me? I'm one foot in, one foot out. I'm still streaming in the basement. Can I just clarify something? I'm still streaming in the basement. Can I clarify something? Trust me. I'm not the guy who they're like, hey, bring him to the Illuminati. You said I'm headlining Madison Square, right? Yeah.

but you didn't clarify how many times. Yeah, I was going to say that. How many times is it? It's two shows. God damn. So don't ever. Oh, my God. I stay on business when it comes to that shit. You got to sell the booty for that one. Say again? When you get to that level. I sold my booty. Yeah, you got to sell to Saucy. Wait, Saucy holds the keys to the garden? Yes. That's all I had to do? I did all this work all this time in my life? You never got offered to sell the booty before? No. I turned it down. You took it. Wait a minute, you got offered it?

What was the offer? Hold on, hold on, hold on. This is when you were weighing how much? Because that's different. Because if you had the fucking wagon, it's a different situation. I've never had a wagon. I ain't going to lie to you. Stop it, bro. Stop it. Weight usually goes around my belly and my thighs. I always had a flatty. You would know. For real, man. Who flattened it? Damn. Now, did you get off of this before or after he DM'd you about Young and Light? No, no, no. But I do want to say this, sir. Yeah.

I got to tell the story for my own safety. Yeah, tell it for your own safety because this is heartbreaking about Diddy. I've been a big Diddy fan my whole life. So...

I'm in London. I go to London for the first time. Yeah. How was it? London was kind of cool. It was definitely not American. Why don't you? No. Shit. God damn. Yo, Axe, you on it. Axe, sometimes you're the most brilliant person that I've ever met. Thank you. And sometimes you be saying some shit that absolutely makes me sigh with saucy. What? That right there made me sigh with saucy for a moment. How? You said London ain't America.

I mean, that's like an obvious. I call him Novak's Kyrie. That's what we call him 2K. Anyway, so I'm in London.

Diddy had previously hit me up to say, hey, listen, stop fucking with my side chick. Think about basketball nicknames. Earl Monroe, Earl the Pearl, Black Jesus. Novak's Kyrie. Do you see the drop in creativity? No, Novak's Kyrie works. Like, my dude's going to do some extraordinary things because he hasn't been vaccinated. Come on, stop playing. Anyway, so I'm in. Hold on, this all makes sense. Hold on.

I gotta say the story. Okay. Say the story, bro. So I'm in London. Yeah. London is cool. Great vibes. Okay. I love the taxi cabs where you can face the other person you're with in the car. Cool. Now, one night I'm trying to go out. Okay. Now they tell me I love Afrobeats. They're like, yo, we can go to Afrobeats spot. But also what happened is Diddy's in town. Never met Diddy. Never been around him. Are you excited to meet Diddy?

I wasn't trying to be Diddy. Why not? Here's my thing. I stay away from these industry motherfuckers. You know why? I've had people literally tell me they avoid Diddy prior to all of this. No, I avoid everybody in the industry. Like,

I don't fuck with Diddy. I don't want to do anything with Diddy. And I was like, why? Because me growing up, I was like, oh shit, Diddy is one of the most successful human beings in the history of business. He seems cool as hell. He seems fun as hell. He ran a marathon for no reason. Yo, I'm going to be honest with you. This guy's awesome. Yo, the majority of why even this industry has creeped me out even recently. Why? When I first, if you have to say when I came in contact with the industry, when I joined Everyday Struggle.

Join Everyday Struggle and we'd have a bunch of guests and that's what I met a lot of people in the industry. When I'm talking to them like, "Yo, Dan, what is it like? What's so-and-so like? What's so-and-so like?" I swear.

I heard like 50 stories about Diddy. Yo, Diddy did this, Diddy. Like crazy. No way. I swear. Can you say the craziest story? Huh? Can you say the craziest story? No, like people would be like, yo, you know, so-and-so, you know, Diddy come, like Diddy invites him into so-and-so, got a towel, like he's in his bathroom, towel around, whatever. The dude says like, yo, Diddy tried, all the type of stuff I'm hearing from people, like random people. It's not like everyone's like, oh, let's all tell acting stories.

But, you know, I'm a curious wide-eyed kid. Like, yo, just tell me, like, yo. Yeah, but you're Hip Hop News. Why you didn't report on it? Because I've always asked those people, why are you telling me this? It's like a behind-the-scenes thing. If you tell me something behind the scenes, I'm not going to go report on it. But why are these people sharing that out of nowhere? No, no. Because you've seen a few of these pop up. No, no, no. What was it? Desi Banks was doing a pod. Like, walk on them and they're like, watch out for Desi. It's not nowhere. Jay Pharoah. Yeah.

And you haven't seen that clip? Yes. He's like, do you have any advice for me? And Jay Ferro goes, stay away from the take that, take that. This is a comic. What's that about? I've been to a Diddy party and there was nothing crazy going on. You ugly. We don't all look like actors, but I'm just saying. You got the wagon like saucy. That's what I'm saying. By the way, guess who's... I thought you were handsome. Six degrees of... Hold on. I know.

Speaking of which, six degrees. You just an ugly motherfucker, but damn. Speaking of which, six degrees of separation. Keep that, keep that. Continue to listen to it and say, keep that, keep that. Yo, six degrees of separation. Diddy, side chick is Carisha, young Miami. Young Miami's best friend, Saucy Santana. Freak off. The Triangle Trilogy. Think about it. Anyway, I'm in London. I'm chilling.

Are you thinking about how I was supposed to hit? Did you just hit me with the numbers, bro? No, no, no. Let it simmer. Let it simmer. That's a wonderful device you have. Cool. What are you trying to say? Tell me what you're trying to say. Process it. You'll figure it out. Don't you worry. You're a truck, yo. Yo, so I'm chilling. It's brilliant. So now I'm chilling.

I'm thinking about... Even the way he did that fucking... Triangle. That was fucking crazy. Yeah, I like that. Are you trying to say right now that Diddy and Young M.A. No, Young M.A. Yo, wait. Hold on.

What does Young M.A. got? Young M.A. Sorry, I missed one letter. I missed one letter, bro. Come on. Miami M.A. is different. Listen. Yo, shout out to Young M.A. though. So I'm in Miami. Remember, the last time I ever talked, like, Diddy reached out to me. Would you fight Young M.A.? Young M.A.?

Why would I fight Young M.A.? Alex. Alex. Yo, he got a nickname for Young M.A. Alex, you fight girls? You wouldn't fight a gay dude. Does he fight girls? No, no, you wouldn't fight a gay dude, but I'm saying if there was a girl who was like a dude. I don't fight girls neither. Yo, you don't fight girls. He loves Young M.A., yo. But you wouldn't fight him. Young M.A.'s this shit. I ain't going to lie. Young M.A.'s this shit. You're not telling my fucking story? Yeah, bro. God damn it. Tell me your story.

That shit looks like some Casey Neistat shit. That look racist. Shout out to Casey. That's my type of racism right here. Wait, why you put racism on Casey? Any white person that's a little bit too pro-American. No, we're not going to do that to America. No, no, no. When you're too pro-American. If you're too proud about the country. Come on, bro. Yeah.

We're not going to do that to America, bro. This is a red, white, and blue. You see what they're saying? The same red, white, and blue freed. No, no. Can I say one thing? Red, white, and blue is slavery. That's what they used to be. These red, white, and blue fought to free black people because the other ones wanted a different country where they could own black people. This is the free black people side. Y'all haven't hung a flag outside your crib since 2001. Who? Stop it. Who? Y'all did that for a couple months and then you stopped it. What flag? Yeah.

You can't claim to pro, like, you know what I mean? Yo, you have the racist mustache. Nobody loves America more than me. Nobody loves America more than me. I know you love America, but you love America without black people. You got to shame that mustache. I love the America without black people. And you got to turn that into a fady. Why you ain't tell them to do that? I love the America without black people. Bruh.

Don't make me ask you to take off your hat. Don't make me ask you to take off your hat. You have the Hitler. Don't make me ask you to take off your hat. Yo, take off your hat. Let me see the little twist. Listen, listen. You have the Hitler mustache, and then you didn't fade the sides. That's racist. Today was a bad day. Tee.

That was racist. Today was a bad day. That was racist. Let me see that take off that hat. Hold on. Let me see that struggle fucking braids. I'm getting my hair done tomorrow too. By whom? Who did that hair? I'm playing. Get out of here. Hey, can I tell my fucking London story? Yeah, tell you some now. I'm trying to go out. You know why we still not part of the London? What?

Okay, okay. Racist. Anyway, so I'm in London. I'm trying to go out for the night. I'm thinking about, you know, I'm into like the Afrobeats. I'm thinking about going to the Burner Boy spot. But there's a Diddy party going on too. He's there with gigs. I'm like, nah, whatever. I just want to go to the, I'm telling the people I'm with. I'll go to the Afrobeats spot. They come back to me 20 minutes. They said, we have gotten a request that Diddy wants to party tonight.

With you. Did he say party party or just one party? Freak off? Freak off? Freak off? Nobody knows about a freak off. Can I ask you a question? Wait, nobody knows about a freak off? If he asked you to have a freak off with Cassie and Cassie consented, smash Cassie, but did he watch us, would you do it? No, I don't do that type of stuff. You wouldn't smash- I'm going to be honest with you. It's Cassie, bro. No, no, no. Hold on. I'm going to be honest with you. She consents. No, no. Fuck all that. You wouldn't let your mans watch? Wait, wait, wait. Fuck all that.

This shit was so, like, you know, alarming to me. And it actually fucked up my whole, like, you know, like, thought about the world. Adam 22. Yes. Hit me up and he said, Ak, remember when you said me letting my girl get fucked by another man who was some white people shit? What?

What about this? I said, oh! Oh, no. Racial draft. We got to get him out of here, too. Oh, no. Get who out of there? Diddy. I ain't going to lie. We got to get him out of here. So you take Grant and Wizzy. Wait, why are you trying to put him on? Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Why are you trying to put Diddy on us? All the weird niggas is all white. Why are you trying to put Diddy on us? All the weird niggas is all white. White? That's white people stuff. All the weird shit. Who was it?

the weird white people who are the weird black people white people would be like yo listen i love my girl to death i will die for her blah blah listen like yo we took blood oaths and all that dumb shit and i'll still let you fuck the shit out of her while i watch and i film with a vhs like yeah yeah that's white people shit he's on it hey black people we gonna admit to our shit y'all gotta admit to y'all shit that's your shit what is y'all i don't know if we've done that that

White people don't do that. White people do that. What's the network with Krishan and Blueface? It's called Zeus. That's our shit. Yeah, that's our shit. Yeah, fighting. That's the worst of our shit. Yo, yo, yo. Fighting at award shows. Fighting at church. Have you heard of the worst of our shit? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Look at Zeus. Embarrassing, rancid shit. How much of that is understanding media? You want me to be honest with you? I think he might be just a genius and understands media. Cool. Blueface.

Nah, bro. And if he has Krishan on board with it, then this is one of the greatest manipulations in history of us, not of her. I think he's figuring it out, but he's realized his music career is kaput. He knows the real currency. And I realized that quickly too, right? So for example, I'll give you a quick history lesson. I won't bore you.

I started my Instagram pages because of Shade Room. And I remember saying, well, if you guys like the baby mamas of the rapper and I'm covering the rapper, you're covering the baby mamas, I'm covering the rapper, I'm going to be bigger than you. Let's fast forward to the current day. Shade Room, 30 million followers, I got six.

People care more about the women and the drama. No, people care about relationships. Exactly. And women are part of a relationship. Okay, so here's the thing. Get saucy. No, no, get saucy out of here. So now I'm covering Blueface. I'm covering Blueface, who now is like, you know, in hip-hop terms, like, okay, you're not new anymore. It's old. Okay. He has a way better upside of getting his baby mamas out.

to either create drama or get them as musicians. But you have to give credit to somebody who, listen, okay. No, I give them credit. What I'm just saying is remove, okay, you can have an opinion, not you. One can have an opinion about the content. They can be like, I disagree with the content. I think the content is immoral. So you could say that. In the same way we could say about the Kardashians. I think the content is immoral. But,

But you could also go, the architects of this content and storyline understands human emotion and how to manipulate it and how to garner attention. So I can't sit here and say that Blueface doesn't know what he's doing if I know the details of his relationship with his two baby mamas, and I'm not even a Blueface fan. I'm tapped in. I know Kashawn got her tattoo covered. Mm-hmm.

I know he's saying the baby not his. My only problem with that is monetization strategy. So you're saying he can't monetize it as effectively? Yes. So I look at it and I say- And if he could, what would you say? Genius. Genius. He's a genius at creativity-

I look at him as really subpar in terms of like, for example, I think he should do fuck Zeus. Like, no disrespect. Lemuel is my guy. The guy who owns the network. He's black. You know what I mean? Black power. Anyway, we got to keep it going. And listen, you bring the racist vibe. We got to go. I don't think that was the weakest black.

You really hit the sauce. You got to fix the lowest common denominator of blackness. So you still got to big it up. But it's like, I don't really want that. So, you know, the only thing I have a comparison for that. And I am curious if you real quick. Do you think Italians feel about the mafia?

And mafia content, the same way black people feel about Zeus Network. I think mafia content makes the town look fire. So fucking cool. Yeah.

No, no, no. We don't look fire. No, Zeus doesn't make you look cool. Gangster rat, you could say. Yeah, nobody looks that way. And WA or whoever that is. Yeah, play this. I guess what I'm saying is there's immoral behavior. There's immoral behavior going on. It's like saying that white people like when rednecks are shown on TV. Oh, it's Honey Boo Boo. Yes, Honey Boo Boo. Oh.

Yes. Okay, okay, okay. Mafia, there still is a code. They take care of their family. Exactly. And there's like brotherhood, all these things that on a primal level, we fuck with. Taking advantage of innocent people, manipulating them, taking their money. Yeah, but if you're a family man,

We'll forgive so much. I think we've been sold a lot. Yes, I agree with you on this. I think we've been sold this lie of family, but there's a lot of families that are not cared about. But it doesn't even matter because it's so romanticized, especially in TV and film, and we love it so much, and we look at the way that they treat each other and that brotherhood that they have. Like the godfather. Oh, my God, I want that in myself. Okay, fair enough. And this is... Okay, but you're saying this is some, like... This is hillbilly white shit. Dance moms or whatever that shit is. My only problem with it is that their life...

is 24-7 a reality show, but the reality show only films a certain once a year. So they're constantly creating this content, but they're not necessarily getting paid for all of it. So I look at it, I'm like, why not go do what Kai Sinatra's doing? Just live stream it all. Just do IRL streaming. Walk around with a camera. You could get donations. Have certain things where you need to be...

member for whatever. Right. Rather than getting pimped out by, you know, even though it's, you know, another, you know, black entity. But I think Zeus is pimping him out. Yeah, I just think Blueface just hasn't figured it out yet. He hasn't figured out monetization. He's figuring out attention. Yes. He knows how to get attention. So he's doing what Kardashians do where it's like, hey, we're going to have this big thing happen in our lives. We'll cover it on our Instagrams and then you're going to tune into our show to see it unfold after the fact. He hasn't monetized both

The beginning and the after. I'll be honest, the monetization is easier than the attention. What the Kardashians also did brilliantly is keep climbing upward socially. Like getting with Kanye is one of the greatest business moves. We're not bigging them up. Hold on, hold on, hold on. These people are the lowest of society, though. It's like, you know, it's like the roaches and the rats. It's like we're not looking at blue face. Like Chris Sean Rock is like, like I've compared her to like.

Like, her behavior is like an animal that needs to be euthanized. God damn. I mean, honestly. God damn. She's a doodad. Mark, you've been quiet. Stop it.

She's an uncultured swine. I knew you were going to say swine, dog. That's crazy. It's another animal. Can you explain the behavior? Break it down to me. This wizard might be grand wizard. That's what I'm saying. It's repulsive. Shout out to Hennessy. It's repulsive. Put it like this. I think it has a negative effect on especially people of color. Do you subscribe to Zeus?

Yes. No, you don't. Be honest. We have a family channel. We have a family. See, I see your cabin. Hold on. Here's the thing. No, I did not. No, no, no. I have done that. Essence Festival is completely different than what this is. Which is so disrespectful to even compare those two. I've never been to Essence Festival. You've clearly never been to Essence Festival. Zeus Network? That's cool. I'll take it back.

Yo, Zeus Network is for people who are scammers, steal cable, like, you know what I mean? People who shoplift. That's not true. Stop it, brother. You would imagine the type of people that love Zeus. Like, it's regular everyday motherfuckers who just want to. But it's voyeurism in the sense of, yo, I'm voyeuristically looking at a bunch of zoo animals acting like, you know, sex. That's not true.

Stop talking about our people like that. What? Stop. Imagine if a white nigga said some shit like that. No, no. The whites talk about white trash like that. We do. Keep it a buck. How do we talk about Florida? If you talked about Zeus. Talk about Florida like that every single day. If you talked about Zeus like that, no, you're good. Thank you. If you talked about Zeus like that, you're good. I promise you.

Couldn't you argue the Kardashians had a worse impact on overall society? No, no, no, no. We hear this out. I know where you're going with this. Kardashian tried to levitate. These people, they only gain more views by going deeper. Yeah, but the Kardashians levitated always at the expense of other people, usually black people. Kanye went crazy. Okay, yeah, all right, no. Hold on one second. I agree with that. Can I just say one thing? How different is Khloe Kardashian's story arc

From Krishan Rock and Blueface's story arc, you have a man, well, in this case, she was potentially unfaithful, but in the Kardashian show, which is this elegant thing that you were describing, and it's completely different, Khloe and Tristan are there. Tristan is admitting to cheating, fathering a child with his trainer or some other thing. They're talking about this on the show. Yeah, maybe the fucking camera work and the houses are a little nicer, but it's still this-

It's behavior. The behavior is the same. It's infidelity. No, no. That is... Oh, because Khloe has her front teeth? No, no, no. You fucking bigot? Yes. Oh, okay. Yes. I'm sorry. I'll take that. Hey, listen, listen.

Infidelity. Hold on. Infidelity. Come on. Infidelity will be seen among any race, any group of people doing this shit. Here's the thing. What Zeus and these people are teaching you to do. Would you be with a girl? Yeah. And this is my thing. I'm married, yo. No, no. I get it. Okay. Imagine your wife then.

Don't talk about my wife. Let's do a hypothetical again. Let's do a hypothetical again. Imagine I wasn't married. It hits too close to home. This show and the culture that they're providing is... Did you say hits at home? I'm not kidding.

Allegedly. Allegedly. Allegedly. Allegedly. Many times allegedly. Yeah. Goddamn. What I said. Many men. Many men. Everybody keeps saying, yo, Diddy's going to sue. I'm like, he ain't going to sue. The fuck? Like, yo. All right. Come on now. So we've seen Cardi B do it to Tasha. Like, it could easily happen. Tasha K said, hey, you have herpes and you drug men, which is no one says that.

You're just making something up that's completely arbitrary. I think you're guilty. We're all saying, hey, we're seeing allegations that you beat the brakes off of this chick. Hatter and Freecause sucking off 50 dudes. Swear the brakes. I don't know what the brakes. What I ain't gonna lie. Is it just like, I've been waiting till I got here to ask Mark.

Mark and Andrew. Yeah. Cause y'all are white. Yeah. We're white. I just want to know. We're white as fuck. What does a individual get out of seeing their significant other getting railed by dozens of men? I'm serious.

Are you asking for the Diddy situation or are you asking for the Adam 22? In general. You guys would understand. I'll try to ask this question with Adam too. You know what I mean? I think Adam is a diabolical genius when it comes to marketing. I think he's a genius in marketing. And I think he had to pivot. This is similar to the Tucker thing we were talking about. Wait for it. It's the Fox News shit.

You kill a story with another story. And that other story has to be a big fucking story. What's the story you had to kill?

Adam? Yes. Should we not bring it up? Let's go. No, bring it up. Obviously, the Fig Munity boys, who I fucking love. Shout out to AD. Shout out to T-Rel. Shout out to Duno. I'm going to just go with the fact that No Jumper was experiencing a very difficult branding situation. It's a podcast that was brand around L.A. street culture, right? And now the L.A. street dudes...

had left the podcast, right? Everybody's talking about no jumpers and shambles, no jumpers falling apart. Is this the end of no jumper? All these blogs, everybody's talking about this happening. You need to kill a story with a story.

Did he pay the ultimate price for killing a story? Fuck no. Now, wait for it. Did he pay the ultimate price for killing a story? Nobody says, yo, hey, my company isn't doing good. Yo, bring my wife in. Let her get fucked. Yo, fuck her. Who does that? It's kind of genius, though. That's genius? Kind of genius. It's kind of genius. Now, listen, I would never do that, but I'm also not in porn. He called him a branding genius, and this is what God said? Now, listen, I'm not in porn.

I haven't been completely desensitized to sex. My opinion is that both of them see sex as absolutely nothing intimate at all. And the act thereof is meaningless. Therefore, matter of fact, they see sex in the same way that people who dance a lot, like my parents had a dance studio. That's how they provide a living for us.

If I saw my wife dancing with some random dude, I'd be like, the fuck you dancing with this random dude? My parents would dance with different people all the time. Dancing to them was nothing intimate. It was just a part of the thing. I assume in some warped reality, and this is warped for us, they think- Yo, Adam's wife is squirting on other niggas, man. Stop playing, man. That's not like dancing, man. Bro, bro, bro, bro, bro, bro, bro, bro. Yo, yo, I watched the last scene. It was free on X, by the way. Yo, she came while the other nigga was piping her.

around. She's trembling like a motherfucker. That's not like dancing, bro. Do you think that I don't agree with you? Yes! Hold on. Do you think I don't agree with you? Do you think that I don't feel what you're feeling? I don't know! It doesn't matter what we feel. It matters what the dude and the girl working at the move feels. You need a therapist, too. Yeah, maybe I do. My point is, when I look at it, I go, oh my god, this is horrendous. I could never do this. But the point is,

The game, the view of no jumper has completely changed. Now no jumper is killing it. The only thing people talking about is this. We're talking about this right now. The end of no jumper is no more. This was some Rupert Murdoch shit. You kill a story with a story. Now here's the question. You will eventually have to pay a price for this decision. And that price will be paid later on. And whether or not they are willing to pay that price will not happen now. It will happen later.

And then they will make that decision. To us, that price is too high. We would never do that. But to them, they made a decision-

to save a brand that looked as if it was failing and it worked. All right, listen, we're in different outfits. So you know what it is. It's money making time. It's money making time. And we got to lock in the locks. The Singh locks right now. Akash has three locks. And by locks, I'm going to put the quotes on them because legally we have to do that. But it's time to make some money. And so far, Singh has been on fire. Have you been on fire? Yeah, I think there's value in this one. Talk to me.

I'm confident and I'm going against my Cowboys. So that's why I trust it even more.

The Cowboys are playing the Dolphins. The Dolphins do a lot of motion in their offense, which is this year something the Cowboys have really struggled with. Okay. So as much as I hate to do this, I'm going to go more for Tua as the quarterback, more for Raheem Mostert as the running back. He's a little more punishing. I think he'll rack up some yards. And more for Tyreek Hill as the receiver just because it's Tyreek Hill. He's shifty. He's fast. I don't know if the Cowboys cornerbacks have faced anybody like this.

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I would never say his name. He's irrelevant. But I'll take his point. Sounds like he's relevant. No, no, no, no. I told Adam because he and Adam sat on a podcast and I said, Adam, don't sit with fucking losers because even Adam regretted it. Anyway, the point was this.

A black dude? Yes. So basically, he said to Adam, why are you doing these things where you're having your wife having sex with other men? Yes. Right? Very reasonable question. Adam said, well, a lot of it is influenced by the extreme and exponential amount of currency and money we could get. Yeah, Adam fucked up. Then the dude then said, well-

Okay, well you've made money before in the past and even now and you continue to make money with these things What are you using the money for and Adam said the thing that confused? Well, it gave him the checkmate but confused everybody else. He says well, I live a really modest life I don't use money. So any like yeah, I've made a lot of money, but I don't use it I'm just I'm not invested in I'm just I have no use for it. Hmm. So the question became

If you don't really have that much use for money, how is money the thing that's driving you to do these things? That's the thing that really fucked me. Money is always going to be a motivator. It's always going to be a driving force on decisions you make, especially when you have a kid. Like it just is how you create security. And I understand both of them are looking at this and they're like, there's an end to

Y'all can't be porn stars forever. You can't be in the rap game and talking about... Talking with gang members forever. Like, it stops eventually. So if they have...

I'm going to be told the game was forever. Fair enough. But they might be like, all right, we got a five-year runway. We got a 10-year runway. We got to get it in as much as we can. And granted, I think he did say that. He had a talk with Leonard. He was like, yeah, we could either stop now or we can just try to go big, cash out, and then we end. And they can't get regular jobs. Keep that in mind. It's not like they just go, okay, I'm going to sell insurance. Yeah.

I'm going to work at fucking Best Buy. The only thing that confused me, which was, by the way, again, the same guy who I hate giving people credit who had decent points, but I don't like him. Why don't you say his name? No. I wish I knew his name. Do I know him? No. But it's some red pill black dude. He's kind of a red pill. Corny dude. Mad corny. So-

Wait, is he on Fresh and Fit? He's been there most of the time. Does he have a donation-based platform that we can support? Yes, definitely. What is it? What's his co-funding? I'll let you know after the show. No, we want to put a link in the bio to support him. He made the point about money, and I made the same point to Adam. I guess that's what I'm saying, because remember talking to Adam, and I said, Adam,

We're both in media and hip hop media and hip hop independent media just popped off. I know how much money I make. Reasonably within like 20% or so, I know you're making the same. Brother, you're not starving. I'm not starving. What's your number? What's your number to stop? Stop what? Stop doing everything. There is none. Because I'm doing exactly what I like to do. There's a difference between doing what you like to do.

And do it because you have to do it. You have to do this in order to provide for your lifestyle. No, I can stop. And live the same life? At least for like, I would say 15 years. That's not- You're right, you're right. You can't stop. You're right. But still like, okay, okay, if I work five more years, I'm good. What does that number mean? That number means- What's your number? Just give me a number. It's just a number. 50-

Even that question that's kind of unfair because it always goes out the closer you get to it Yeah, just at this point in his life. I agree with you, but like at this point your life. What is the number? Okay? Okay. Okay. Okay. So for me, this is a financial This is a financial question. It's not a situation So for me like when it comes to bills and everything I have to spend every month maybe is between 125 150 thousand a month that I have to expend right and

So if I'm making at least $200,000... Yeah, you need $1.8 to pay your nut. Right. So now...

I'm thinking about savings, this and third. People have saw some maybe nice things they thought I bought, but come on, these things are just petty little small things. I've done really well and saved a lot of stuff. Then if I was supposed to extrapolate on the bills that I currently have, and if it continued to be that for 10, 15 years, or let's say just say 20 or 30, then I would have that number of what I need to make.

And I would probably think that, you know, obviously let's get to a number that I could still live that lifestyle at least while I'm living. Right. But even then, let's back into it the other way. How much money do you need to make after taxes a year? Right. In order to not do anything, not lift a finger ever again.

Now, again, your lifestyle is going to change when you don't have to support your businesses. But for example, let's say you make 25, let's say you have $25 million liquid in the bank and you're making 5% on that. That's $1.25 million a year. You're getting tax capital gains on that. That's 20%. So that comes down to about a million cash a year you have after taxes. That'd be fine. You'd be fine to live off.

Of course, anybody would be fine to live on a million. And again, a million cash. Yes. Capital gains tax different than revenue. You're not making income. You're just getting taxed off of your assets, right? Or your equities, whatever you have in the market. So 25 million is a fuck you number where you could live whatever you want to live. Yeah. Right. And of course, that's most people. You can pay your homes. You can pay your mortgages. You can do pay your cars, everything you need. 25 million. That's the number then.

Yeah, but even with Adam now... My point is, you said you and him are making the same thing. Does he... No, no, no, no. Yeah, yeah. On a media entity. So I was thinking of it like, yo, we're both comfortable. Why do you need to do more shit? You know what I mean? Well, because... Unless it's a passion of yours. Because I wouldn't do anything... Had somebody fuck his wife? If you offered me a million... If it was a passion, he would have done it anyway. Okay, if you offered me a million dollars to...

If you offered me a million dollars to go on a date with Saucy Santana, I would say no. Yeah, but you have a number where you would. 25 million. You would do it. Let me tell you something. Listen, listen, listen. You would do it for $100 million. And it's not even a question. It's not even a question. I'm giving up cheeks for $100 million. No question.

100 mil? 100 million dollars. All he got to do is get entered. I'm saying 100 mil, bro. 100 mil. Better him than his wife, bro. With all due respect. You can come on my yacht. That's actually a great point. I was judging him. That is a great point. Comparatively, and you can come on my yacht anytime. We'll go on vacation. I'll take you out. I'll fly you out. That's the deal between Mark and Adam. Mark's like, fuck me for 100 mil. I put the team on my back. I put the whole team on my back, bro. He's a provider. Yeah. But,

Here's the thing. And maybe, again, I'm not looking at it in terms of finances. I'm looking for Adam to just basically say, hey, listen, I like to be in these, like, hey, I'm a porn star. I'm, like, sexually numb to regular sex. Isn't that what I just said that you disagree with? No, no, no. You're saying that there's a financial incentive. No. What I'm saying is that... I want him to just be like, yo, listen. I don't know. I love the freak shit. I like other people having sex with my wife. I don't know, Adam. It turns me on.

I'm at the point where I fuck so much that I can't even get hard. We're doing regular shit, and I need to do this, so it's more than money. I think Adam and Lena have both experienced sexual trauma in their lives, and because of that, as a coping mechanism, they have desensitized themselves to sex. Do you know what we call trauma? If they...

Describing it? No, I'm saying at younger ages. And because of that, as a way to cope with it, you basically diminish what sex is. So if you go, sex is actually nothing, then that horrendous thing that happened to you, right, is nothing.

It means less, it affects you less. And then once you numb yourself to sex, you can kind of do anything within that. Now, I don't know if that happened to them. That would be a hypothesis that I would come up with, right? Because for me, it's not numb. It would be horrific to do what they did, but they're capable of doing it. So I have to find some sort of explanation to that. And a lot of people in the industry, unfortunately, have experienced this horrible shit. So once you're numb to it, you can do anything.

Once you're numb to it, you can do anything. And wait a minute. I don't know if he's numb. And monetize the fact that we are not numb. Hold on. I don't know if he's numb. I'm going to tell you why I think he's not numb. Nah, bro. Hold on. I'm going to tell you why I don't think he's numb. There was a time where he had did some shit that I felt... But he understands media. No, hold on. It was a time he did some shit that I felt...

If we are men, you would understand why I would be upset. And I could tell like when he was explaining it on his platform, he didn't get it. Like what? Like what? Like what? So he had interviewed. So it was around the time, I think, was it after or maybe during Everyday Struggle? But I was trying to get these other ventures. And he had brought up a girl who's a notorious liar. And that particular girl, he was my brother, please.

He brought up a girl that was sane and almost making allegations on me. And I was like, you know, this is the type of shit, especially, you know, where I'm at in media at this point. This is hurtful. This isn't about like, you know, oh, like, oh, it's my ex or a girl I dealt with. This is a girl who's just saying shit. Why would... Yeah. Okay. So...

I remember saying, yo, I think he's just emotionally, he doesn't understand shit. So when me and him used to get into it, I said, all right, man, if you don't care about nothing, I'm going to find something you don't care about. So I talked about everything. Yeah, y'all relationship is weird. And, and.

There was a point, I went to No Jumper one time. I remember I walked in, there was a bunch of crips just entering. I was just like, I don't care who in here, y'all gonna have to beat me up. Because when the camera come on, Aki's gonna be Aki. You ain't gonna get the toned down version. It's always gonna be Aki. And I remember I went kind of hard at him about his relationship with Lena. And this is before I knew anything. I was joking about all types of shit. And he messaged me like a day or two after and he said, hey, listen,

yo, you know, when I came in the game, you know, one of the people I looked up to, like, I love doing content with you, but I'm going to be honest with you, this is kind of out of bounds. Like you mentioned my girl in a certain way. And I'm going to be honest, I was so happy.

Because I thought it was a motherfucker. Yeah, I thought it was a motherfucker with no limit. Now here's the question. Is that limit an emotional limit or is that did you attack the brand in a way? Because I think the motivation with a lot of people, Adam's not singular in this. I think with a lot of people, especially successful people, is what continues to provide for the brand. So if you act like C-Mac, right? Crip Mac.

If he acts crazy and wild and he's the most entertaining and fucking incredible character, it don't matter what he says because he is uplifting the brand. So I'm going to have you around. C-Mac is saying I'm going to eat your girl's ass. I'm a fucker. I'm a doer. That's uplifting the brand. It's part of it. It's great. You were chipping away at the brand. Death by a thousand cuts. Do you know what that is? I know. But what? Fuck the brand. I think his girl finally said it.

You want to let your mans talk about it right now? No, it's not. No, it's not. Think about it. Everybody's calling him a cuck, and then all of a sudden- No, this is a different Adam. Big boy Adam Cullen. Hold on. This is a different- This Adam has put on, I think at first a facade- He's put on an act persona. No, but back then- Bro, I did an episode of What's It Called? And he had the YouTube clip questions lined up.

Like we're all on no jumper. And I thought that we're kind of cool. And he had the title in the questions. And I'm sitting there and I'm like, oh, wow.

The most important thing here, because I thought we were like, cool, not like boys or nothing, but I thought we were cool enough, whatever. And I was like, okay, you came in here, you know what your title got to be for this podcast. You know what the clip's got to be for the podcast. And I'm like, okay, now I understand who you are. Anything that serves you and continues to succeed within this business, this is going to be a good thing and we're going to go and we're going to push on it. I don't hate on it because I like knowing where people stand.

I like knowing what people's intentions are. I operate a little different. You are on this podcast right now. If there's something from this pod you're like, yo, I don't want out, I'm cutting it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm cutting it. Adam's not cutting it. That is true. Mm-hmm. He said on this very stage, I will not allow a guy to fuck my wife. I make enough money. Right there where you sit in.

Makes me think a little different about you and Saucy. Maybe there's something down the pipeline. No, no. That's $25 million right there. Yeah, what if that's $25 million? I'd pay to see it.

I will pay this, bro. Live on Rumble? Yo, son. Come on, bro. That'll be rumbling. Hosted by Fresh and Fit. Yo, they can... Rumble the jungle right there. Yo, we off the Henny, man. We on that Hen dog. So like right now, I got a sense of myself because I'm going to say things that I don't want to say. I'm like, man, that $25 million ain't worth nothing because I ain't going to want to live. You ain't going to want to live after that.

You don't make it a joke. Yo, let's cry together, bro. Hold on. I cry all the time. I cry all the time. Some people on social media and some people on the internet, they're like, damn, I'm going to be honest with you. When I'm live, I've never been to therapy a day in my life.

We can tell. You don't say. We can tell. We can tell. Really? I ain't going to lie. It's the most honest version of me. I'm working things out and things on my mind. In real time. Things on my mind comes out. Sometimes I'll realize I'm wrong and it happens in real time.

To me, I think that's therapy. Dude, therapy is fun. No, hell no. Bring a therapist on stream. A therapist on stream. Hell no. Not in terms of fixing yourself, but sometimes it's funny to walk into the therapy room and know that that's about to be the best 45 minutes of that therapist's day. Like, you're going to walk in there and you'll be like, all these other boring motherfuckers and I'm coming in here with heat. I'm making up shit in therapy. Heat? I'm lying. Yeah, if they get bored. You in therapy too? I've been, yeah. I don't go right now, but I've been.

We're white, dude. Stop, stop, stop with this. White people have been into mental health for fucking decades. I tell my mom about mental health, like, she's going to be like, I'm coming over to cook some oxtail. We're going to make this shit right. What are you talking about? Nah, we're not doing that. Where does your mom live?

Well, you just want me to tell her that sauce? State. State. Oh, she lives in the same state as me. That's why I live there. I would have been in Florida. If my mom ain't live where I live, I would have been in Florida. So you paying... I hope your mom knows how much you paying in taxes just to be around her. Yeah, and I pay her bills too. It is what it is. Wow, boy. Got to. You know what I mean? Are you cool? You guys are cool? Who? Mom is like in your life big time? Yeah, of course. Like my...

Does she know everything that's going on? Does she know what her son has achieved? Well, first of all, my mom has a permanent room in my house. These days, I'm trying to get her to not show up on announcements. She's doing this new thing. She's retired, right? Of course. So she's bored. Yeah. So she got three sons. She needs something to do. She's like, yo, I'm picking which son to go hang out with. I'm at your house. I'm like, no, no. Are you her favorite?

I wouldn't say I'm her favorite. I think she would say that I'm the person who probably has done most for her and changed her life. But a mom's favorite a lot of times is the oldest. Oh, I was going to say the youngest. No, the oldest. I'm the youngest. I'm going to tell you why the oldest. I'm going to tell you why the oldest. I'm going to tell you why the oldest.

Question and if I'm overstepping don't answer the question But there was a situation that I heard online where either maybe it was an ex or your girl I don't know what but had the altercation with your mom and

Like, I think people took that overboard because I think people were trying to act like, you know what I mean? Or, you know, so it was a situation where, and I'm really not trying to get too much into this, but. You don't have to, you know. Girlfriend. Girl, well, really it's me. I have, I have a bad history with women trying to like expose me. And one of those things where like, listen, I'm a black boy from Jamaica. If I get in an argument with a woman.

My mama told me, well, I'm going to call my mom on the phone. I'm going to walk outside in the middle of the street or I'm going to tell my mama to come over. We need a woman in the building because a man and a woman, I ain't trying to get done. Like, what's that thing named Jonathan Majors? I seen the video. You saw him running? Moving. That's how you deal with that. That's how you deal with that. Jay-Z did the duck? No, Jonathan Majors is like, I'm not even in the building. It's a white woman. You got to run. You got to run. And he still got clipped. Right.

I ran from a white woman. That's how hard it is for us. Honestly, free black people. Hold on, hold on. Shout out to America for doing it first. Shout out to America for doing it first, bro. I'm going to say this, though, in reality. What would Trump have done? No, no. Well, I definitely would have grabbed her. But listen. By the what? Listen, you know what? I will definitely say, and I love my people.

Who's your people in this circumstance? Black people. But black people always be like, yo, it's a white girl that I gave him the, man, in my life, there's always a black chick, right? I ain't gonna hold you. White chicks, they always kept it PM dipped when like, yo, hey, it's not working, leave. Black girls, ratchet, making noise, exposing. I ain't gonna lie to you. Well, is your girl black?

Oh, man. Okay. I'm the last of the Mohicans. I'm the only one still dating them. I don't know. Yo, oh, by the way, that's what Fresh Off told me. He said, I'm the last of the Mohicans. I know. That's hilarious. Yo, this is what Fresh Off told me. They were like, yo, the

This is the only thing I'll say. I hate the last of the Mohicans about a white guy that joins the Native American. You can't even be right about the last of the Native American. You're a technical man. Ha ha.

All I do is ask the last of my week. The real one. All they told me, it was like, yo. This is whiteface right here. Whiteface. You called me king from now on. Yo, this is what they told me. They said, this is what Fresh and Fit told me. Who said this? Not Fresh and Fit. It was like, yo. Yo, get that talking points out. All right. No, no, no. Sign up for our GoFundMe. They were mad at you. They were like, yo.

Why mad at me? He came at them harder. They said, you know that guy that was acting like, you know what I mean, why you don't like black queens? We found out he don't even like black queens. His queen ain't black. I'm like, oh.

It was like, you got to bring that up. Yeah, she's Spanish. Damn. Have you dated black girls? Yes, I have. And I dated white girls, and I dated even an Indian. Really? Yeah. Why you point over there, though? Well, Bengali, sorry. Yeah, she's a beautiful girl. I met her. She's cool. Oh, wow. Come on, man. So we out here. Come on, man. I date everybody. Say what? I date everybody. I don't think so. I never seen you with a white girl.

What? I've never seen you with a white girl. What you got against white people? That's the funniest. I've never seen you with a white girl. I've never seen a black guy do that. I've never seen a black guy be like, you think I fuck white girls? What? Oh, I don't fuck white girls. I've never seen a black guy do that. What you got against white girls? Make America great again. Come on. My face too fat. No. Oh, man. Let's go. Trump 20. What is it? 20.

Where's the red hat? I need the red hat. Chill, chill, chill. Chill, chill, chill, chill. You know what I mean? No, no, no, no. Yeah, yeah. No, I've dated white girls. When I broke up with them, they just went away. I dated a black girl. They're on the blogs. Hey, let me tell you about this bitch ass nigga. I'm exposing him. I don't know what it is. Well, maybe the white girls dated you for love and the black girls dated you for clout. Really? Yeah.

Maybe the white girls cared about who you were. Maybe the white girls just really loved Eck or your real name, Sentinel. Why are you saying his government on here? I don't know what that is. Sentinel, Sentinel.

No, you made a good point. Sentinel. Maybe the white. I'm going to be honest with you. Yeah. The white girls didn't know who you are. They don't know about big act. No, the white girls just didn't have a platform to like complain to. They don't. There's no complaints about me. Well, you don't go down on girls. Like maybe do you think that's part of it?

Like, if you went down on them, maybe they would be... You ain't never licked a pussy lip in your life, Cap? Hey, listen. You ain't never licked a pussy lip? He's never gone. He's never gone down on a girl. Yeah, talk about it. You ain't never licked a pussy lip. Talk about it. Listen, I'm from Jamaica. Anyway. No, no, no, no. Answer the question. What I really want to say. You ain't never licked a pussy lip. You're not getting out of this act. Don't look at me for safety. You ain't never licked a pussy lip in your life? Nah, brother. He's never gone down on a girl. I'm not saying I wouldn't.

My wife. You gotta be wife. You're telling me. Not now, because I know you're skinny, but back in your eating days. You're telling me you stopped at pussy lips? He's saying you ate a lot of other shit. Yeah. You're saying you never ate pussy? I'd rather eat a McRib from McDonald's than motherfucking pussy lips. What the fuck is he talking about? What about ass? You never ate ass? You eat ass? I didn't say I do. Oh, you're white. Do you eat ass? Yes.

White people don't got no bounds, man. They don't. Yeah, we do. Once I see, I came over here, I'm from Jamaica. It's called the Mason-Dixon line. No, no, no. It's a very clear boundary. Yo, we got all type of season and shit. When I came up here and I said, wait, white people are eating like raw meat? Oh, this is crazy. Japanese people eat raw fish. Well, they white too. Yeah.

He's kind of right. He's kind of right, to be honest. That checks out. That checks out. That was good, dude. On the census, they check. You can tell he's confident in the point when he stops. Hey, hey, hey. I don't want to ask you this. When he doesn't talk to you. If we're talking about Rushmore's, right? If we're talking about Rushmore's. Of white people? No, no. I'm going to name the people under Mount Rushmore. Who's the greatest white person? No, no, no. Name me. Name the greatest white person. Michael Jackson. No, no. Name this Mount Rushmore. Hmm.

If we got Diddy, R. Kelly, Bill Cosby, and Trey Songz, this is a- How you gonna do that to Trey? Trey don't deserve that. What did Trey Songz do? How you doing that to Trey? What did Trey do? Why you putting Diddy up there? Why you even put Diddy? That's allegations. Wait, wait, wait. I didn't tell y'all what Mount Rushmore is. I was gonna say name the- What? That would be the Mount Rushmore of what? Music. Of music? Cosby has never made music. Come on, son. What's the Mount Rushmore of? Black entertainment. What is it?

Diddy, Cosby, R. Kelly, Trey Songz. Mount Rushmore of what? That's what he's asking. Now, come on now. He's asking us to fuck off. You can use a lifeline. Okay, I'll use a lifeline. I'll call the police. Tell me, what is this a Mount Rushmore of? They'll figure it out. Name the greatest white person ever.

Greatest white guy ever. No, Percy. No, it's not easy. It's not easy. It's hard. There's a lot of white people you look up to. No, I need my brown brother to help me out. He's going to get one after. You go first. You want to say Abraham Lincoln? Don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't let him do it. Barack Obama. Can't we say Eminem or some shit like that? Say whatever you think. I want to know number one white person. I won't go top three whites, but give me number one. They got to be full? Go top three. Top three whites. Full whites. Oh, full whites. Oh.

Okay, me and him, we got to be able to share. No, bro. What? Why are you so scared? Just brainstorm a couple. You're not in the industry, bro. It doesn't matter. No, you're right. Just throw a couple out. Just random. Top three whites. Eminem got to be up in that bitch. Okay, Eminem. Love that. That's a Mount Rushmore. White people. You want to vote for him? Oh, we got to put Uncle T up in there. Uncle T got to be up in there. Uncle T. Okay. Uncle Trump got to be up in there. Okay, number two. Let me see.

Might have to do Elon Musk, man. Okay, Elon Musk. That's three. That's three. He's African, but he's white. He's African, but he's white, man. That's three. That's three. That's three. Four, four, four. Oh, that's top three. You said three. That's three. You didn't name one girl. You might be a... Listen...

No, no. I'm a feminist. Material girl. Everybody know I'm a feminist. You could have said Margot Robbie. You could have said the bitch from Euphoria. What was the girl that you did from Euphoria? Sydney Sweeney. Oh my God, Sydney. Damn, bro. He doesn't know any women. He doesn't know any women. Yo, name a woman.

You really hate women like that, bro? Name a woman. I went to Doja Cat concert. She was fire. Matter of fact, I went to Doja Cat concert. Ice Spice, greatest performer living right now. Wow. She twerked for 30 minutes. That shit was amazing. Yo, she had the mic by her booty. All you heard was twerk wind. And she was twerking. Twerking.

Not one song. No, twerk wins. Twerk wins. What's the problem? Category five. Category five. So wait, Ice Spice was good? What about the pussy wiping thing? Can you explain the wiping? I don't understand that. She'll do the thing where she bends over and then she wipes from her. No, no, no, no. She's not wiping. Oh, see, y'all white people. Y'all really uncool. She's splitting the lips. It looks as if she's wiping her ass.

through her pussy, which is a guaranteed yeast infection. I don't think that that's a very sanitary way of trying to entertain a crowd. She's bending over and then wiping from booty hole through pussy. You know what's so funny? You're not a backshot guy. You're definitely a missionary guy. I can tell. Oh, you're a backshot guy? I'm on my back. Popcorn, popcorn, popcorn. You know who Popcon is? Of course that's my guy. Wait, wait. I'm Popcon. So you're on your back while she's doing, wait, wait, she's riding or something?

Pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop. Popcorn. And sometimes I give her the backpack. Popcorn, popcorn, popcorn. Oh, look at that. Ice spice. I'm going to be honest with you. Listen, they might have just convinced me recently to get into OnlyFans.

You're gonna restart an OnlyFans? No, no, no. I might as well just do a cameo. Hold on, hold on. Are you gonna let Saucy have direct contact? What are you gonna make the tears, bro? A bitch who I done dealt with went online. You know when a bitch is salty, she gonna say, oh, he got a small meat, so I gotta now show it off. Like, she said it's small, I gotta show it off. Come on, man. I'm like, jumbotron. Do you think your meat is bigger looking now that you're skinny? Yeah!

Your dick looks bigger objectively because of the skin. Hold on, hold on. When I suck the belly in, this shit be looking large, bro. Do you have a huge dick? What was that picture with all them bumps on your shit? Was that you? It's in-girl hair, though. But it was here. You know what's so funny?

Yo, I'm going to be honest with you. Is that hating again? Was that hate? No, that's not hating. No. Is that an objective question? That was an objective question. Don't you have any hate on me? I asked it. Don't you ask it? We don't have him here every day. I want to know when this bumps on his fucking meat. I want to know when this bumps on his meat. No, no, no. Pause. No, I had to go over here. Anyway. That was crazy. That was crazy. I was going to say what's happening right now. Have you ever dealt with a crazy bitch that...

Because she don't want you to fuck other bitches, she'd rather say you have an STD. Oh my God. That's fucked up. No, I'm serious. Hold on. I swear. Hold on. You must have given good dick then. Are you good at sex? I don't think I'm that good, bro. I'm like mediocre.

What is your move? I'm like a white guy when it comes to that. I'm not really like, whoa, what the fuck does that mean? What does that mean? Are you saying you eat ass? Are you saying you eat ass? Oh, so you're saying white dudes eat ass? Yeah, we do. We invented good sex stuff. You guys catch on late. You gonna take that? Nah, we're the best. Actually, low-key Indians are the best. But I'm saying like over here. Nah, Indians ain't really putting it out. There's 2 billion Indians. Do the math. Do the math.

Yo, they're dealing with chicks who never got dick in their life. Like, to keep her in a pinky might get them to cum 15 times. Goddamn, you're going to let him say that about you at women? What? I'm not listening to this gay motherfucker. Who cares what you got to say, bro? You get knocked out and fucked in your ass by Saucy Santana. They're going to like it.

Oh, man. Fuck you, Akash. No, but for real, your dick game is okay or what? I'm going to be honest with you. What do you think about yours? How do you rate it? Yo, how do you rate it? Because my whole life I thought it was just size dependent. But now I know that there's a skill to sex.

What's that do? Like how many hands do I put on it? Damn. Like how many hands? That was great. How many hands did your girl put on it? Oh, that's different. Girls have smaller hands.

So you tell me. One and a half. Yeah, she can almost get her whole hand on that thing. No, no, no. Like, I can put my hands on it and my dickhead is sealed out. I ain't gonna lie. I'm a truthful person. But you did ask me how big my dick is and looked at my hands. That's gay. You asked me! You told my nigga you were a shoulder. You crazy as hell. You asked him. You did ask. You did ask.

You can go faster than me out of this shit. Yo, yo, yo. I was fucking with a chick. Don't talk about girls right now, bro. We're talking about me and you. She was a whore. Wait, wait. Paid for? No, of course not. What are you talking about? I'm not fresh and fit in these guys. Oh, you see? You put it on Fresh and Fit first. He's a whore.

You see what your donations are going to? You see what your donations are going to, ladies and gentlemen? No, no, no, no. Did he make class? How much does he pay? How much does he pay in exacto? You accused Fresh and Fit of doing so much. By the way, I know my mans, they never pay for sex. No, they said that. No, they never do. Yes, they did. Who said that? They said it on air. Liar. They said it on air, son. Really? Yes.

Cite your sources, nigga. He did cite the website that they on. What was this shit? Christian Mingle? That's not paid. No, that was when you look at Sugar Daddy. Sugar Daddy sites. That's horse.

If you on a sugar daddy site, you're paying for sex. Yeah, roundabout. Uh-oh. Yeah. I mean, you can say any relationship where a guy pays. Shut up, my car. Hold on. But you're right. I'm going to be honest with you. You got to listen to my guys. Yo, shut up, Al. Fresh from the coolest guys ever. My guys? Yo, their game is so extreme, they'll get on a sugar daddy site and convince the bitches who want money to not want money. Facts. You

You don't got to cook this up, bro. Yo, stop laughing at them. Yo, stop laughing at them. Yo, these are the coolest guys on the planet, bro. They're helping men every day. I know. Yo, they're helping so many men every day. Yo, the next time I'm coming up here, I'm bringing them up to the pool. Yo, bring them back up here. You won't have the same energy.

How much do you want to pay? How much do you want to pay? Buddy, what are you talking about? Me? Yo, I saw y'all here with them. What'd I hear the other said? They've been crying about it since. And I was nice to them? No, yeah. They're not on their shit every single episode going, they were so good to us. When they were bullying us, we got bullied. Two years later, they're still crying about it.

- So I literally called him. - Now you were hating on him though. - Two years later, he's still crying about it for clit. - My boy is fresh as bitches. Like I am capping. - Which one is fresh? - Fresh is my mama. He's the darkest kid dude. - The one that pay for it or don't pay for it? - None of them pay for it. One of them got four girlfriends, facts. - The sugar daddy or non-sugar daddy? - Four girlfriends, facts. - Which one? - The taller dude. - Has four girlfriends. - Facts. - Damn. - Is that an accomplishment? I'm just telling you what they got going on, man. Like I hear them like-- - How do they look? - Huh? - Oh, there you go. That's how they look and you said, huh?

I don't know. I'm just saying. I asked an objective question. You know you got four girlfriends. You don't know how any of them look? I asked an objective question. No, I'm going to. Hold on. I mean, you know a lot of information, but then you don't know a lot of information. Stop judging. I don't want to violate my man's. I'm going to be honest, though. You can buy a girl for 10 cents a day. No, I'm going to be honest with you, though.

My man Myron's girl, she looks really attractive. Yo, why you hitting on your man's girl? That's wild crazy. You got a Spanish girl? You like Spanish girls? Yeah, I do, but that's crazy, bro. I would never hit on my man's girl. I'm not hitting on her. Yo, stop. Give me the website one more time. Rumble.com. Go donate to Rumble so he can take his girl out to a nice dinner. Go donate to Rumble so he can take his girl out to a nice... What is he like? Steak? Fish?

I don't know. Anyway. Bofa. Wait, who else do y'all beef with? Because I like the beef. You know what I mean? We don't beef. We don't beef. Are y'all cool with the JVP? Joe Budden Podcast? Are we cool with them?

No, animosity. The shame is coming. This is white people's shame. You can tell. You can tell. Why are you looking at shame when it's just honesty? Like, cool with no. You know he gave you credit recently. I don't know. Listen, with all due respect. Low key? With all due respect. I think him and Charlamagne's beef, I don't know what it is. He came on my podcast. He said, you're the star of Charlamagne's. You're like him. Which I don't like that. He's using my success to get at Charlamagne's. Exactly. But Charlamagne's the greatest radio host ever.

In our generation, without a doubt. Other than Wendy. Nobody's, no, no, Wendy doesn't come close. What? Then Wendy doesn't come close. Charlamagne has had a longer run than Wendy. Charlamagne is the greatest radio host. Charlamagne is the greatest radio host in our generation is not a question. And probably, objectively speaking, probably the greatest ever if you really wanted to look at it. Probably the greatest ever. Is him or Howie?

It's only him or Howard that you can talk about. Wendy is the GOAT. Wendy turned because she turned what she was doing on. I'll walk down the street. I'll ask. I'll walk down the street. I'll ask 10 Asian people. They know who Wendy Williams is. They don't know the fuck she is. Well, because you're talking about now. Back then. Wendy Williams had a daytime TV show that she can still go back to now. You don't understand. You're on the Internet too much, bro. He's international.

So you're like, show me it's international. You're telling me that you don't understand. You don't understand. You don't understand. Let me tell you something. Wendy was popular at a time where hip hop existed primarily and it was digested primarily in America with The Breakfast Club and the YouTube channel.

The Breakfast Club was the only access to hip-hop commentary outside of America. You have also become one of these portals. But the Breakfast Club was daily listening. So everybody in the world knows who Shawl is. Remember when I talked about hip-hop platforms and I talked about, like, you know, like, Shady Room and shit like that? Pull like this.

What Wendy Williams had in terms of when she went to mainstream TV, like midday type of shit, I'm sorry, hip-hop doesn't come close. And I'm talking for me and anybody that's been to hip-hop. Hip-hop does not come close. If you think it comes close otherwise, if it came close, Charmin would be hosting a midday television show. That's also a TV show. You're talking about a TV show. He said radio. He said he's the greatest radio host. You're talking about a TV show.

But we're talking about skill at that point. No, I'm talking about greatest radio. So, but we're primarily talking about skill. We're talking about numbers. But why not bring up Oprah? You bring up a bunch of other like black TV personalities. No, are we talking about skill? Are we talking about, like, if we're talking about skill, I agree with you.

- I'm talking about skill. - Oh, okay. If I'm talking about impact and everything, that's why I said nobody top Wendy. - The only person you could compare Charlamagne to is Howard Stern. - I'd probably give it to Howard, but that's not a guess at all. - Now here's the difference. Here's the difference. Howard came up at a time where radio was way more dominant. Charlotte found a way to take radio programming and compete with everybody on the internet. He turned radio into TV.

Now, Howard had a TV show on E! That's kinda how most of us knew Howard.

The only thing I would push back with that- Let me say this, and this is with all due respect to Howard. Put Charlamagne on radio at the same time as Howard back in the day, nobody says the name Howard Stern ever did. I'm going to be honest. No one says the name. With the freedom to say whatever you want like Howard said, nobody says the name Howard Stern ever did. Let me bring up a counterpoint. Hold on, hold on. There is a fucking movie about Howard Stern's life that probably made hundreds of millions of dollars.

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Like, Star was that. But, hold on, hold on. Charlamagne is the evolved, better version of that. White people didn't know who Star was. Asians didn't know who Star was. Indians didn't know who Star was. Hold on. And listen, and I woke up to Star and Buckwild every morning. But when you compare people to Howard Stern...

Now we got to talk about the ability to move an audience because Howard Stern said, hey, I'm going too motherfucking serious. Everybody come there. Now we got to talk about impact in terms of that. So now you have to equate anybody you're going to mention with Howard Stern in moving it, moving the audience. And the only thing that's why I said Wendy is because Wendy was operating on.

daytime or whatever, like whatever her slot was. And she brought people to TV. You now have to tell me anybody else beside Howard Stern who has brought an audience from A to B, which is a different meaning. Where? Where do I radio to internet?

YouTube is TV. Like, are you crazy? And not only did he bring it to TV, meaning it was on the TV at that time every single day and there was eight other channels you could fucking watch. There was millions of other channels you could watch and you tapped in on YouTube. Son, you of all people know how hard it is to... YouTube is the new TV. You're not hearing what I'm saying, though. I'm hearing it. I'm digesting it. I disagree with it. I also don't think you're understanding if... Because I know about moving audience. Yes.

Yeah. And I know how difficult it is. But you also don't understand. Hold on. I'm not saying The Breakfast Club didn't exist and still exists, and they're amazing on YouTube. I don't think you know the strong—like, where'd you grow up? Where'd you grow up? Where'd you grow up? I need to know where you were a kid. Well, at least in America, I was in Jersey. So you grew up listening to Hot 97, or you didn't? How old were you? Both, yes. How old were you? From 10 all the way up. Okay, so you grew up listening to Hot 97. Yes. Because that's where I grew up. I listened to Hot 97. Yes.

Hot 97, I mean, is a shell of what it was. Yes. Because of one human being.

No, of course not. His name is Charlamagne. No, I'm not lying. No, of course. Hot 97 was an institution of hip hop. It was a hip hop staple. Before one man. How are you not acknowledging that? I'm agreeing with y'all, but I think the way you're looking at radio and everything else, Hot 97 doesn't go down in the fucking like, Hot 97, Wendy's run is,

Bro, we're talking about Ebro in the morning. Like, I'm sorry to say, Ebro's now. We're talking about... You don't understand hip-hop. Starbuck is Hot 97, bro. Flex is Hot 97. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Wait, wait, wait. Charmin was competing with at the same time. Let's be honest. He was Syphus Sounds, Rosenberg. Come on, bro. Like, come on. I'll kick them around now. Like, come on.

Yo, here's what I'm trying to say. I really saw you lose confidence. Y'all got to stop it. Here's my thing about moving audience. The second name, you just saw the confidence. You can't build a show around Rosenberg. I'm sorry. You're right. Shout out to Syke, but Rosenberg ain't the one to carry a network. And this is the only reason, by the way, this is all due respect. Like, I love Charlamagne. Nah, but Ebro was the show. This is not no disrespect to him.

at that time. - No, you both came back down. - When I'm talking about Howard Stern, he moved his audience from FM AM to all the way to Sirius, right? - That's a good point. I give you Howard. - We see also Wendy do it. If Charlamagne did it, he would do it to daytime TV or he would do it in other realms. Not the same program. - Hold on. - Like for example, because I know I've struggled with that too. That's just reality. People like, people like, people like, for example, okay, great, I'm lit on YouTube.

But then does it translate to every different medium? It's really hard. A daytime TV show also, the expectations are much lower, the ratings required are much lower, and it's a much cheaper thing to make. So if you're viable as a daytime TV host, we'll just keep you going because you're competing against nothing. If you have a good daytime talk show, you're a fucking global superstar. Ellen and Oprah.

The whole world knows him. Everybody else, it's cooking shows. It's just have some level of an audience and we're good. It's a very cheap show to make. We can do it every day. Let's go. Even if I'm paying you a lot, I don't got to do shit else. There's no script writers. I'm sorry to interrupt, but I don't think you're giving enough credit to transitioning the audience from one platform to another, meaning radio to YouTube. You have a- That was natural. Hold on. I'm going to tell you why it was natural. What's the natural meaning?

It was natural because it's the reason why I existed. You're moving the goalposts. No, I'm not moving the goalposts. Let me ask a question. If that was natural, I wouldn't be a thing. Can I ask a question? If I had to compete with radio when the audience was only at radio, I wouldn't be a thing. The audience was already coming here. Can I ask a question? By the way, you know why I'm one of the biggest? Why hasn't Hot 97 took off on...

Internet. They also have video. They fucking trash. Okay, so then. The trash. So you're saying that he was better? Yeah. Of course. He's the best of them. He's the best of them. Is he the best of his generation? Of course. Okay, so we at least acknowledge best of generation. Yes, I'm agree with that. And we at least acknowledge that he transitioned his audience from radio to YouTube and brought in people that weren't even listening to the radio to YouTube.

Just off of how compelling the interviews are. Yes or no? Yes or no? Yeah, hold on. Just can you give a yes or no? Hold on. You can't even just say yes or no? No, no, no. I think you take for granted because you're an internet dude. He's easy to go internet to internet. It's hard to go radio to internet. No, no, no. I'm not saying that.

Is this a button thing? You feel like you got to defend Joe? He's got the biggest Patreon. No, no, no. Who cares what I want? Yo, his Patreon is huge, bro. His Patreon is one of the biggest. I'm going to say this and y'all are going to think it sounds like he bothers us. Hold on. I'm going to say this. He's got a four, 20 different people playing musical chairs. Hold on. I'll say this and y'all are going to think it's hate. Charlemagne is one of the greatest radio personalities of all time. Top what?

two or three, when it comes to black people, he's top two. It's top two and he's not two all people. No, no, he's top two when it comes to black people because Wendy's always number one for me. He's top three or top five. You don't think he's objective? Like, if you want to hear one person, let me just ask this, you want to hear one person interview

A president, a rapper, a... Culturally, that shit don't matter, bro. I mean, honestly, it do not matter, bro. Just give him that because it's almost like comparing Jordan and LeBron. That's fine, that's fine. It's like Jordan and LeBron, they both like whatever one came... Like, play this. Interview Biden versus like, you know, like I'm talking about culturally. Interview Biden versus...

Wendy interviewing Whitney does not... Why nobody give a fuck about Biden, my nigga? Like, yeah, granted. Hold on, hold on, hold on. You're bigger, but it's not cultural. Hold on, hold on. We're talking about cultural. Okay, name an iconic Wendy moment that you really remember. With Andrew Dice Clay.

Remember that one? I mean, a million of them. Name one, name one, name one. I remember her being the Statue of Liberty. Hold on. Well, first of all, she's a... Don't do that to Wendy. She outed... What's that thing you named? She's been on Diddy since the beginning. She called that shit early. She got fired for it. She's the first one to call her early. She outed DJ Mr. C. Bro, like, Wendy's always been like... Name a moment. When Wendy brought Charlamagne in, it was because...

She was so extreme. Name a moment. Now, there are TikToks dedicated to just crazy Wendy Williams moments. They're both. Charlamagne himself would never sit on any camera and say that Wendy is the blueprint. I'm telling you this because it's a fact. So now let's talk about impact.

Okay, now let's talk about impact. Okay, by the way, you have Charlotte Charlotte made us got yo Yes, YouTube books TV only thing was Charlemagne. That's the only Charlemagne I would say the only thing was Charlemagne I would say is different than the other two people about this is rarefied air. So it's not hate shopping Rarify air because we're expected. Well, we're comparing him to Howard Stern and Wendy Williams and

I'm not comparing him to Wendy with all due respect. I'm not. Okay, okay. I'll tell you why I'm comparing him. Because here's the thing. Hold on. Here's the thing. We're not just talking talent. Of course, I think this thing is fucking amazing. It's great, right? I'm talking about you got to be able to mobilize and move an audience. If you could tell me, like, Howard Stern moved an audience to fucking serious. I seen Wendy move an audience to daytime TV. You have to tell me where Charlamagne moved an audience to. You can't tell me. YouTube.

No, my nigga. It's the same program. People just start consuming. It's not the same program. Stop it. Make that argument. Make that argument why it's the same program. People start consuming the breakfast club. Make the argument why it's the same program. All right. How is radio the same as YouTube? Okay. So let me go on your bullshit point. Okay. So if you move them to YouTube, then they should go to the YouTube of the other shows that he does. Which are? Doesn't he have YouTubes for the other like nightly programs?

Hell of a week didn't have a YouTube? No, they don't put the whole show on YouTube. It doesn't matter. What do you mean? It does matter. No, it does not matter. If somebody puts out a minute of his show, that matters? Oh, so you're trying to discount it?

See, you're reaching. This is the thing. Really? It's cool. Let me make the argument. I don't think you've done anything outside of the internet space. That's, I agree. So you don't understand the difference between the internet space and the traditional media space. The traditional media space is fundamentally different. Charlemagne comes from the traditional media space. Right.

I don't know if you would have the same success going from the unbelievable achievements that you've made on internet to a more watered down platform. Now- Hold on, hold on. I agree so much. That's why I think y'all don't like when I'm pointing the same thing at him. No, because what we're saying is the opposite.

He has the ability to go from the traditional media space where he made the biggest radio show ever. We acknowledge within his generation the greatest radio host, right? We already acknowledge he's done it the best over here with the handcuffs. And then when you take the handcuffs off on the full unedited interview on YouTube, it becomes hip-hop rock.

Media exists on YouTube because of him. Bro. Yes or no? No, my nigga. Okay, who started hip-hop? Who started hip-hop media on YouTube then? That's what I'm saying. If you think it's a breakfast club, you're crazy. No, no, tell me who. Nigga, breakfast club was a byproduct of the internet. Charmin himself says that out of his own mouth. But we saw what was our interviews were going viral. That piff? That piff? Where did you go to get? No, the internet changed shit, bro. No, but like.

No, no, but where do you go to get the content? That's what I'm saying. Dat Piff? It was Dat Piff, right? It was the blogs, and it was Breakfast Club on YouTube. Yes or no? Just do the math for me. Tell me the other resource. Yo, you're not hearing what I'm saying. You're trying to give Breakfast Club credit for creating YouTube in terms of that content? I'm saying that they're a byproduct. See, they're a byproduct. Here's the thing. Facts. Here's the thing. One important component. Go, go, go. So-

He's a stand-up comedian and he put his clips out on YouTube and then those clips blew up and you're and you're trying to take credit away from Charlotte because I'll take credit away from him and say if the internet wasn't busting the way it was he wouldn't be as busy as

So if you're taking that credit away, that's stupid. No, you can't take credit for the times changing. The times change to the internet. I understand the argument. The times is changing to the internet. Wait for it, wait for it, wait for it. No one person said we're going to internet. What you're trying to say is there's an appetite for this content and the internet provided a way for people to do it. Now-

It takes a person to do it, to make that jump. Yes. And wait for it. It takes a person to make that jump with talent to get all these people to realize they want to consume that content. What I think is the Breakfast Club, and I don't want to, I mean, I give Charlotte lots of credit, but I also give credit to Envy and Lee. What they did is, or Yee, my bad, I made her more Asian. Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry. She's going to be on.

So I basically what he did is brought that audience over there and found new audience that was going to be there. But they also fought to keep that content under there. And he understood the value of that YouTube content in the same way. No, he does. We're not arguing the same thing. The only point I said is this.

You're trying to say, oh, it's him bringing it to YouTube. I'm telling you that YouTube is inevitable for anything. I am a product. I don't say I create. When people give me credit for being a genius, I said, I'm also the- How many people copy you that don't succeed? Hold on, hold on. But I'm the benefactor of place and time. How many people copy you that don't succeed? You're right, you're right. But I'm also the benefactor. I am also very honest. I'm the benefactor of being successful.

of being one of the first and in that moment. Have you continued to succeed? Every successful person is a benefactor. Have you continued to succeed? Okay, okay. Why? And that's what makes you bigger than, oh, just a successful person. You become a legend. Hear what I'm trying to say. You have to be able to move an audience if we're talking about Howard Stern. And my whole thing is this. If, listen, you keep talking about it here and there. You hating, dog. I'm hating? Hold on one second, one second, one second, one second. Yo, if...

I would give the credit. Can I just— I would give the credit. By the way, we're comparing it to—you keep saying Hayden, but it's like, bro, I'm comparing him to the two biggest in the whole space. Howard Stern, Wendy Williams. If Charlamagne moved the Breakfast Club audience to go watch whatever TV show he got going on, Hell of a Week or anything else, now he did it. Mm-hmm.

But having people watch you on YouTube, my nigga, they watch Charles White on YouTube. What the fuck are we talking about? You know what I mean? I'm not somebody who thinks that I move people. Do you think I stand out and be like, yo, I move people away from linear or whatever to come to me? No, I was a benefactor of the times. Does content that is quality make people want to consume it on a new platform? I'm not saying it wasn't quality. Yes, you're right. Okay, so-

There are plenty of people who put a stand-up clip or a stand-up video up on YouTube before me. Okay. I did it, and then it became a trend worldwide. That's not just because the internet blew up. It's because the internet blew up and...

skill, every successful person. Your shows. Academics. My point is, you need both. You need skill and you need trend. You're right, except this.

We've watched you exponentially grow to sell another fucking guard, my nigga. Twice. Twice. You're right. Thank you. Okay, let's see that exponential growth for anyone else that you're going to compare to that saying it's just not the internet. Because you're right. It's skill that made that happen. So I haven't seen another Breakfast Club. No, no, no. Hold on. Name another radio show. Name another radio show. If Charlamagne gets...

Does any other iteration other than the Breakfast Club? I hate this because it feels like I'm hating it. And I'm definitely not. You kind of are because look at it. I don't think you're acknowledging the ability to take someone from traditional media. What I think you're doing is you're looking at it through your. But there hasn't been anything else. Listen, you're looking at it through your lens and you're also looking through Wendy's lens, which is going from traditional to traditional, right? Yes. Where they're way less outspoken.

outlets for... So are you saying traditional to internet? Let me get out. Let me get out. Let me get out. They're way less outlets for distraction. When you're going from

This is a time where nobody's even on the Internet. Nobody's even watching these other things. This is a time where the YouTube isn't even playing a part in people's lives. So you're just searching for more distraction. You just have the TV on. That's not to discredit from what Wendy's achieved. She's achieved immense success and incredibly talented. That being said, taking an audience from radio, regional radio, well, now it eventually became syndicated all over America. But regional at one point, turning into syndicated and then going to YouTube and becoming global.

And the cornerstone of hip hop conversation is taking an audience to another place to the point where I would argue there was probably more people at one point watching on YouTube than there were

Listening on radio and I haven't seen another traditional radio outlet do that. So to me what that says is, that says is there is one reason why that one specific platform was able to transition and nobody else was. And that's why I give it credit. If every other radio show just transitioned and it was huge, I'd go, okay, you got a point. The internet is just this thing and it's a trend that's taking over. The reason why I'm calling bullshit on what you're saying-

is because this is documented fact. What is? What I'm saying is it's going to be documented fact. What? Show me the other radio station that did it. Go to 2017, 2018. I'm a singular person. I don't have nobody working for me. How many people think I work for the Breakfast Club?

Me and The Breakfast Club, numbers-wise on YouTube, we're competitive within maybe one or two million. They're doing 35. I'm doing 33. In fact, hold on, hold on. I don't give myself the credit. So if I don't give myself the credit, I can't get him the credit. But that's your self-loathing. Yeah. I don't give myself the credit for that. Self-loathing. How? What I'm going to tell you is you don't. I was a part of a paradigm shift. Act, act, act, act.

You're nice, bro. Definitely. You're nice. What I'm telling you is at the end of the day, people might- Back then, no. Wait for it. Back then, no. You know how you describe a person?

Am I one to bite my tongue with credit? You don't like compliments, but nigga, like, I know you don't like me, but nigga, like, you always do what you do. That was crazy. That was crazy. That was crazy. No, he doesn't, but it's fine. It's fine. It's fine. It's fine. I give it up to you. I give it up to you. Now I think you don't like me. Now I think you don't because you're just supposed to like him because he's black. It's fine. It's fine. It's fine. He thinks I've hated on him in the past, and it's fine. And I've given up.

to you. But that's the thing. It's like, yo, you have still stand the test of time because you are good. There are a bunch of people who are doing the same exact things you do, but you still exceed because you're good, nigga. When we're talking about, let's say, let's create a different situation where we're not comparing you to Howard or Charlemagne or who else is there? Wendy or these people, right? We're just talking about the internet people. Who fucks with you?

You're one. You're number one for hip hop. Yeah. On internet, our generation, you're number one. Yes or no? I'm just, who is- No, I agree with you. And I still look at that and I'm like, put it like this. Yeah, just like Charlamagne's number one at radio.

But to really be number one, like when I see Howard and even Wendy to a certain extent, I see a number one that it doesn't matter. Like Wendy probably didn't even know she had a YouTube channel. By the way, Wendy's YouTube channel for her show – You know that people didn't have a choice back in the day, right? Wendy's YouTube channel for her show –

was doing millions of views. She probably never knew she had one. That was a byproduct of the time changing and people were consuming. My mother, before she started watching my shit, mom, please stop watching my stuff. She was watching Wendy Williams on YouTube because she couldn't catch her during the daytime on TV. Now listen, you're speaking of a time when people did not have a choice

in the content they consumed. They were given options and they had to choose one. Now, we have a choice. In my opinion, the people that succeed in the time of choice are the greatest creators. Meaning, if I can choose from a million different people

If every day I'm walking into a library essentially, and I get to choose all these different books, that's because what we're doing with the internet. I have a choice. And if I keep choosing that same person, keep choosing that same person, not what fucking UPN gives me at 9 p.m., but what I want to consume, the people that win in that era are the greatest creators. That's what I'm saying. And my argument for you, which is my same argument, and this is why...

I speak very highly of you. You know that. 100%. Because it's deserved. In the same way I speak of Sharla, because it's deserved. He came from a time where people were force-fed. They had four choices of radio shows in the morning. You remember what it was like to switch to the radio. He's the greatest of that. And then...

He also exists in a time where you could choose whatever you want, and they still chose him. You're making the point that I made when me and Drake had countless hours of conversation about my criticism of his last album. Which is? And I was basically telling Drake, I said, yo, Drake,

Because I felt he was a little bit sensitive. Joe had said some stuff, but I kind of felt a little bit like, I don't know, whatever, whatever. But the way he lashed out on criticism, I was like, oh shit. He's at the point where he's like, yo, I'm the guy. You just accept. You're a fan. Accept what I... And I was like, no, that's not how it goes. I still can have my critique. And even with you saying that when it comes to...

Everything in terms of how I'm like, you know, receiving everything. Like, I don't believe that. I actually love my strength. Whether people decide that you are, you're not. People are making a choice to consume your content. And when people make the choice to consume it. To me, those are the greatest creators. Because people have freedom of choice and they still choose to consume these different people. Oh, no, no. This is what I was going to say. Yeah.

So these days, these days, me as a creator, and by the way, you know, Schultz, you've always been so complimentary. Like, it's one of those things. You're nice, bro. No, no, no. But also, I respect you for always keeping it even. And I've seen you. I'll say it. If I don't believe it, I will say it. I respect it. But I feel nowadays...

Compared to back then, like, I ain't going to lie to you, when people keep hyping up the Warren Chirac era of me, I was like, bro, they had no other option. Bro, half the time I didn't know what's going on. I feel like I've done more work now than before because now I know there's competition. Back then, I just knew the secret sauce. Be first. Be consistent. Be consistent.

No matter what I said, that's why people were looking at me as the law. Now I know there's 2,000 other people that's competing. I got to go so hard. You know what I mean? And that's why I guess like what you're saying, I'm like, no, no, no. I don't believe that whatever is going on now, you know, based on what I've done means, you know, it's good. I'm like, no, I'm working the hardest now ever. But what does working hard have to do with whether it's good or not?

Because I think when you're even talking about Charlamagne, you're giving credit about, okay, well, you did this first. What you think is, and this is my assumption, and then we can move on. What I think, and this is you projecting a little bit of your success onto him, which is there's a little bit of you that probably thinks that you blew up simply because it was right place, right time. Yes. Now.

Everybody blows up because it's the right place, right time. Jeff Bezos was smart enough to realize that if he owned or offered the service of... What does he do? It's called Amazon Web Services. So essentially, he has this business which floats everything else where he operates the actual...

Internet space that holds the website the web hosting. Yeah, so he hosts the websites and that's where he made all the money not making the fucking toilet paper But making all that money in this space that he had absolutely no Competition for ten years allowed him to amass his wealth that builds this company Amazon that Amazon is his amazing company, right? He probably is looking at this like all these dummies didn't figure out this thing. I'm a fraud. I shouldn't be this successful No, no, no. No, you found the white space and

You took advantage of the white space. And then when the competition came in,

you still surpass the competition because you're nice. - Success is knowing how to operate within your time and place that you were born. That's every successful person. You can't be successful. That's the only way you can be successful. - I think you're discrediting yourself a little bit 'cause you're like, "Oh, I was just right place, right time." So if anybody else was right place, right time, then that was what, you know, that's a little bit, no, no. It's recognizing right place, right time, seeing the white space in the market, taking advantage of that white space,

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That's a good point. That's an amazing point. Because I do think when I think about my success a lot and I... Discredit. You think of some trends. I probably downplay a lot of me and be like, hey, listen...

Well, I came through at that time and shit. That was the time. No, you found it. You found it. That's crazy. Before, when you were the faceless person who just gave hip hop news, I was watching or listening or watching it regularly. And then you started showing your face. And there were people around me who didn't like you. And still, I'm like, yeah, but you know what? He still serves a purpose. And it's like.

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I'm one of those people, like I've always heard about people not getting their flowers. And I've always thought, I'm like, yo, they've given me too many flowers. Oh, really? Really. Because you feel like you're getting credit that you don't deserve. No, no. They're giving me credit where I'm like, damn, I thought y'all were going to be like, oh, fuck him. And like even these days, I'll be around some of these media spaces with other like younger creators. I'll be like, yo, act, you're the go. And I'm like, fuck.

Damn, I'm going to go for what? You know what I mean? So I do have a... Imposter syndrome? No, no, no. It's not controversial, but it's like I'm also trying to figure out... You have imposter syndrome. This is what our culture said, but... What do you mean? Imposter syndrome. I struggle with this a lot. You feel like whatever success you're doing, whatever praise you're getting, it's not real. I'm actually not that good. I'm not as good as people are telling me. Eventually, they're going to find out that this is all a fraud. And you were ready for hate.

Because that would confirm this thing that we're like, well, I'm not good enough. And this shit might have come easy to you. That might be true. Because I've always told people, I walk in a room and I'm looking for the hate. If it's too much love, I'm uncomfortable. Because you feel like you don't deserve it. Because it feels fake because you think you don't deserve it. But you also tell you something that also comes with the content you put out. Yeah. Because it's like, yes, it's like you know the content you put out garners hate. I feel like you're almost in because there are so many people that have

copied you and copying is okay by the way I think that like

When I say that, being inspired by people and doing things that you see are successful is a very natural human thing. I hate to cut you off. Can I say one thing? Yeah, yeah. I feel like I'm getting sentimental. I got to drink some more. I just filled you up. I know you did. Pause. Sauce. Sauce. Yo, I remember I was in maybe like a feud or argument with someone and they had said to me that they called me a hack.

It was so offensive to me. I was like, damn, am I just someone who's just fucking... When I think of a hack, it's someone who's talentless, who just happens to get by. Who's doing the same shit that everybody does. Yes, and for me, there was a time that I was like, I wanted to see... Even though we'll even delve back to even the Charlemagne conversation, even him acknowledging me, there was a long time I wanted his acknowledgement. But even when you acknowledged me, it was like, yo, man, act your good. And I was like...

Maybe I'm just not just doing some shit that like happens to work. Maybe I do have a talent, but there was a long time. I was like trying to figure out what that was because I was like, maybe I'm just lucky.

Can I tell you something? I didn't know how I felt about you the first time you came on this podcast. I was like, I don't know. The content seems kind of negative, blah, blah, blah. You are fucking undeniable. And I messaged you after a couple of your podcasts. That's why I came to your show. Well, I was just honestly, and it was great. The episode was great. But then I started watching you with other people, and I was like, yo, this guy's the best in the world right now. And I said that to you. In this moment in time, whenever I message you, this guy's the best in the world at this.

You are undeniable. And that's why when you expect hate and get love, it's because you're undeniable. But it's good that low-key it's kind of good that you feel this about yourself because it probably makes you work that much harder. I told Charles the same thing. I said, yo, listen, I always need to have like, I need somebody hating on me. You need a trip angel. I need somebody like, yo, yo. Tom Brady thinks nobody believes in him. Really? Nobody does, huh?

When Tom Brady starts every season, he thinks nobody believes him. When Michael Jordan is going up against the Atlanta Hawks, he's making up shit talk from the other team. Every successful person has a little bit of a chip, and you kind of need it because it gives you that almost psychotic ambition. If you accepted who you were and your influence in the game and what your ability is, you might not try as hard.

You know what I mean? You might just be sitting there chilling. I feel like I have so much to prove, but it's just like, I feel like I'll even have conversations with people and I'll look at their eyes and be like, I'm like, is this motherfucker thinking like, yo, you're just a product of luck. I'm going to be honest with you. I'm not saying that we should be happy. I'm not saying that we should accept things because sometimes wanting more forces us to go.

But there is a version of it where you're like, hey, I am good enough. And this group of people that likes me, there are people that have no group. Some people have no group. Yo, Charles, let me tell you this is a real story. I remember I was – I forgot what I was doing in New York, but I was coming – I was back in an Uber and I was watching – I was watching your Charlamagne on Brilliant Idiots.

And, you know, we're talking about I went to Roots Picnic. And, yeah, like, you know, this is kind of like a disaster. Everybody's laughing at me. They're like, yo, this guy's whatever. Oh, you did the live show at Roots. Yeah. And I ain't gonna lie. That shit really charged you up. It fucked with me. Well, it fucked with me. It charged me up, but it fucked me. It was like, maybe you've been living in this delusion. Like, for example, I did a live stream today, right? There's 30,000 people on it. And, like...

Like, I've been online for, like, so much of my career. I'm like, oh, okay, people do like me. And that shit and hearing how people talk to me, I was like, no one likes you. You're a fucking dweeb that sits at home that, like, they like to laugh at and they laugh at you, not with you. And that shit fucked me up. And I remember watching. I'm like, and it brought me back to where I started.

When I first ever did anything, I said... Because I used to chase these little love of hip-hop girls around trying to get interviews. I wanted to do interviews. And I remember I skipped like... I missed like 10 days of work because there was this one particular girl. She was just always rescheduling. I was like...

I'm at my wits end. I'm like, yo, if they don't like me for me, fuck this. It's not for me. And that's when I started doing independent commentary. I said, fuck that shit. If they don't like me for what I say and I need to be sitting, because that was my thing. I need a cameraman because I'm like, I'm not going to just interview you. I want to be sitting next to you because I want to gain some fame. And once that happened, I was like, I was at my wits end. But even when I saw that, it made me think, I was like,

You have to do a show. You need to figure out if for the last 10 years, what you've been working for, it's real. So you're, again, this is the imposter syndrome and there's a worst case. And by the way, think about this. No matter what jewelry you see me with, no matter what cars, houses, I retired my mom, all this great stuff, it didn't matter to me. Of course. All that mattered to me was just that

Is what you think you were working for an accomplishment? Is it fucking real? Is all this fake? And then in that moment, that insecurity that you've always had, which is this is all fake, all of a sudden that insecurity became real.

You're like, fuck, this is all fake. Yo, I threw the show. I promise you, I cried half the show. Everybody who was there watched. I couldn't get a sentence out. I cried the whole time. I couldn't. When I pulled up and I saw a line wrapped around the fucking building, I couldn't believe it. Because I was listening to, you know, obviously, I'm polarizing, so I had people who didn't like me. So they called in.

The first venue we had saying that I was going to have beef and a shootout there, they canceled it. I was like, oh my God, it's not going to happen. One person took a chance on me and we did have the event. And when I pulled up and there was a line around the corner, I cried the whole time. I cried tired. Here's the thing. There's two things going on. I think that we've taken for granted the idea that just because somebody is watched somewhere, that people will come out to see them in person. True.

I think that that existed at a time where you barely got to connect with those people. And now we exist in a time where we get to connect with you all the time. So if I'm coming out to see you,

You have to deliver some sort of live performance that I also want to see. I think there's a lot of people that really enjoy seeing you on your lives. It doesn't mean that they don't love you because they don't come to your live show. They might just be going, well, what is he going to do for a live show? I don't know if I need to see it. For me, they see me do stand up and they go,

I need to see that in person. And that is my job. My job is to make sure that they feel I need to see that in person. I've seen you both live and like the podcast is like it's the podcast and then the live version of both of you. Very different. Right? And I can get it. And I remember like I remember the first time watching you and the first time watching you and like I'm just sitting there and I'm like this is like a different fucking monster. Yeah.

But you look at the stand-up clips and then you go, you see someone see an Akash clip and they're like, oh shit, I need to be in the room for that. I think what used to happen is if you were in a commercial, people would come to see you do stand-up because they're like, you're a famous person. I saw you in a commercial. Just a Verizon guy. Are you there yet, guy? I'll come watch you do stand-up because we never got the access to famous people. Now...

Just having a podcast doesn't mean they're going to see you in person. It's having great stand-up means they'll see you in person. Having a great album means they'll see you in person. Son, you know from rappers, just having music that people listen to doesn't mean they'll show up. Yeah. You got to have a great show. You got to build a great community. There's got to be purpose. Entertainment is so specific. You can blow on one platform. It doesn't mean they're going to see you in another. 100%. That's why I've even watched how you guys have kind of rose, and I'm like, shit.

Man, like, you know, I was thinking about hip-hop recently. I've been speaking about it, and it's just like there's less than 10 artists I really fully believe in a game that are selling music. Everybody's selling moments. They're selling experiences, movements. They're doing a lot of things, but they're not selling music. I feel like hip-hop's going through what rock music went through. What do I mean? Like, rock music came out, and it was like the rebellious...

like rejection of society and it was it was fucking dudes wearing makeup and hair and tight jeans and fucking bitches and smashing no no no what i'm trying to say is describe it mark no he's trying to kill sounds awesome the way he was talking about that well what i'm trying to say is we ain't dying no time no i'm not saying he's dying he's so much an ill and

You're talking about Janelle. Don't start, act. Act, don't start. Yo, Janelle's is crazy. What does he have? You got better nails than Yachty. Yeah, oh. That's a compliment, bro. That is a compliment, but it's like, how's the inspiration to get that, though? Nigga, it's swag. The same way that you got put together. It's pronounced ****.

Actually. Nah, stop it. You're going to make him cry because he can't say that word. He'll say it for you. Are you going to say it for me? Yeah, we got a nice little bleep here. Oh, man. Thank you. Akash. Akash has only had sex with one woman. Yo, yo, wait. How you feel about Saucy Santana? No, no, no. I ain't doing that. Saucy's an upstanding citizen, yo. What were we just talking about? What were we just talking about? The henny keeps your memory short.

Rock and roll. Oh, yeah. So I think like rock and roll was the rejection of everything at that point. And it became so famous and successful because we were like, oh, my Lord, we're supposed to be so good and proper in the 80s and 90s. And these rock and roll artists are doing whatever the fuck they want. These guys are the coolest people on the planet. I want to be like them. And I think hip hop came in and did the same thing. It was the rejection of what you should do.

And we were entranced by it. We're like, yo, these guys are the coolest guys on the fucking planet. And it wasn't only, oh, I'm going to kill people. It was, oh, I got bitches over here. Or it was, I'm going to say whatever the fuck I want to say. I'm going to say, fuck you to authority. If you're a young white kid, black kid, Asian kid, you're like, wait, fuck you to authority? That's fucking awesome. Fuck authority. Now I think hip hop has become the predominant art form for America. And what happens with that is,

Is it's corny and then people are chasing the success and the corny of it. There's no rebelliousness in hip hop anymore. Yeah, but think about it. What are we? But who are we competing with country who was here before hip hop? What's this? Sorry, sorry country who was here before hip hop. You're saying country music. Well, I think the reason country music is popular now is because it is the ultimate rejection of hip hop.

If hip hop is pop culture, right? If hip hop is the art form that is synonymous with America, I know that sounds crazy to even say, but if you think about American music, to me, it's hip hop, right? Now hip hop has a number one album all year, right? No number one hip hop album all year. So, and country music is killing it. What is the antithesis of hip hop if you thought about it?

Probably country. Andre 3000 flute album or country. That's interesting. Now, country's popping because it is rebellious. Liking country is like you coming on here saying you like Donald Trump. Everybody's going to be like, oh, that's kind of crazy, but also it's kind of fire, but oh, that's crazy. Being a person that's out here like, yo, country's cool. I'm going to wear the cowboy boots. I'm going to wear the cowboy hat. That's sagging your jeans now. That's wearing a bandana. That's putting on a grill.

Acting as if you're this country hillbilly motherfucker is a rebellion against modern, not even modern society, popular culture, which is dominated by hip hop. I also think rejection of the generation before you's culture

Which is dominated by hip hop. Which is dominated by hip hop. And what we used to always say, and I'm 39, oh, I like every music but country, which is such a corny thing to say. That was a thing we said. But I like every country was like the pariah art form. All music is cool, but country's so whack. So I think people saw that and were like, all right, that's the cool shit then. So I hear you and your arguments are very valid.

But country was never not a thing. Like it was so big of a thing always that you had your own award show because that's how big of a thing. But I'm also saying it's like maybe hip hop came. It was that big, hot, new thing. And now we're just leveling out to now just new, like good music is what peaks. You assume that, I think you're assuming I'm saying hip hop is gone. I don't think it's gone. No, but you compare it to rock. Yeah.

Sorry, sorry? You compared it to rock, where rock is like- I don't think rock is going. Inexistent. It's really not.

I think if- Where's the rock album that was the number one hit? It's country, it's hip hop, it's Spanish. Okay, number one, but for example, there are rock bands that to this day, Coldplay can play wherever it wants, it's going to sell out anything. No, we're talking about pop culture. Right now, pop culture is country, hip hop, Spanish. So what I would say is that country is just now becoming pop culture. Like you said before, country existed within its niche culture.

audience in middle america didn't drive culture didn't drive culture huge but didn't drive pop culture there's a country star pop like i knew country songs when i was a kid like that like which ones i don't know apple garth brooks yeah like the ones that like just like

Broke the surface. It was like ironic. You liked it ironically. If it broke the surface and black people heard about it, that's... Black people were not fucking with country. You know a couple of country songs. Jamaicans love country. This is true. I'm from the country. Kenny Rogers or whatever. I think it's Kenny Rogers. Kenny Rogers would go to Jamaica and play like the fucking stadium. Yeah.

Jamaicans love country music, bro. Also, like, Achy Breaky Heart was a punchline song. We all laughed at it. Yeah, it was sarcastically like... We like anything with a little bit of substance. You know what I mean? Yeah. I do think that hip-hop is suffering from that now, where it's like... It's about music that's for the here and now, and there's not much, you know, substance to it. And I think that music is being so recyclable and replaceable and microwavable that...

Yeah, it's not going to do that much other than be here for the next two months, then go away. And then you see people kind of gravitate towards the shit that's actually lasting. So perhaps, you know, that's a part of it. But, you know, I've definitely been watching that. Hip hop is a little bit...

It seems like there's nothing surprising about hip hop. There's nothing shocking about hip hop. And also what is going to happen if you become the predominant art form. Exactly. It's going to start to lack acceptance because people just want to do it to be famous. And also people get watered down. When you become the mainstream thing, it becomes watered down. It becomes a little bit more cookie cutter. You have the greatest producers in the world that are all producing the same songs. That's why all pop songs sound the same because they're produced by the same five people or whatever. So the same thing is happening with hip hop.

So the sound becomes synonymous. And that's not to say that these producers aren't fantastic, but when they're the only ones producing the music, it sounds a little similar, right? So then you hear something a little different. What's really popping right now? Afrobeats.

Because it's different. The sound is different. It is unique. It is organic. It is a, I'm not saying a rejection or rebellion, but it is at least a little bit of a different wave from what you've been listening to. And now that's killing it. When I listen to Afrobeats these days,

It's so distinct than when I listen to hip-hop. I listen to Lil Baby, he's rapping about the clothes he bought, the bitches he fucked, the people he gonna shoot. And it feels like it's in one ear and out the other. And when I'm listening to Afro beats, whether it's like, you know, Asake, Thames, I'm listening to Rima, I'm listening to Burner Boy, it feels like it's shit that I'm like, oh, they're talking about love.

They're talking about, you know, feeling good. They're talking about things that like... What's the rejection of negativity? Positive. But how do you explain Burner Boy's album sales? A lot of that is we don't know what he fucking said. First of all,

That's a whole smoking mirror because, you see, Burner Boy is an international artist. Oh, by online sales, you meant not enough. What I would report on my page. Speak on this shit. What I would report on my page is what you sold or what you streamed in the United States. Burner Boy is an international artist like Bad Bunny is. Like, for example, I'll use this breakdown.

Drake last album, by the way, Taylor Swift owns the record for most streams of the year. Okay. Before her two years ago, actually a year ago, Burner Boy broke the record by July. No, not Burner Boy. Bad Bunny. Bad Bunny streams way more than Drake. We look at Drake like, oh, he's the GOAT.

Drake streams on all platforms globally does not even hold a candle to what he does. Latin's listened to a lot of music. Right? Now, here's the thing. In the U.S., we still only report on what the U.S. sales does. We don't report globally. So, for example, Drake drops an album, Bad Bunny drops an album. Drake's album in the U.S. sold 400,000. Bad Bunny's album sold 200,000.

except if we look globally, Bad Bunny's album sold three times more than Drake. Oh, shit. Basically, the US market is just not... Everything is now turned globally. So there used to be a time where if you're an African artist, if you're an artist from Puerto Rico, if you're an artist from anywhere, you need to get to the United States to really be legit. These days, the United States is not even the primary market. So for example, Burner Boy, for example, Lil Durk sells 120,000 records first week.

Burner Boy in the U.S. sold 25,000. Lunder can't do 15,000 or can't even do 10,000 in New York City. Burner Boy did Citi Field. So explain that because we're talking about U.S. numbers and like if U.S. numbers did more. I think there's another piece of information that's missing from this conversation, which is the labels buying streams.

And it's so rampant that I think Spotify said, yo, we're going to start punishing labels for it.

I don't think he's ready to speak on that because he gets paid by the labels. No, no. What? I speak on anything. You get paid by the labels? Oh, yeah. I pay for them all. But anyway, here's the thing. That's a yes. Oh, and I will speak. Listen, what are you going to do? Not cut me a check? I think I'm the number one. Like, you got to cut them all. You got to cut me a check. Listen, I'll say this. So when you post somebody, it's because they paid? No, no, no. Yes.

Most likely not. Most likely not. Stop it. Can you just be real? No, I'll tell you the truth. If you post somebody's music, it's because they paid. No. Because you're either posting hip-hop news and then when it's music, it's because they paid. Me and Playboy Cardi, who, by the way, we got some stuff coming up. I've been posting his stuff. He doesn't pay. Me and French Montana, who's a friend of mine, who brought me to a Richard Melly party, where I was trying to finesse a Richard Melly. He doesn't pay. Don't find that awful watch. Huh? It's an awful watch. No, I wasn't going to pay. I was...

Like, I was around the guy who, like, the Richard Milley guy. Respect to him as, like, a watch engineer. Like, his ability to build a watch. But, like, the watches are disgusting. You're the hater. That's some hater shit. They're truly disgusting. It's hater shit. They're very gaudy. It's just because you don't like it. I've seen one or two I don't hate. But Nike guy, I don't like Adidas. They're disgusting. This is what I was going to— None of you guys are wise. They scream poverty. Wait, wait, wait.

This is what I was going to say to you. This is what I was going to say to you about streaming. And people don't understand this about streaming. It's the orange Lamborghini Urus. How do you feel about bus downs? Well, I have a yellow Lamborghini Urus. You can't get rid of the Urus. Can I help you with things? Can I make this point about music, brother? Because I know you want to talk about cars. What car you got?

A beetle. I have a... He's a beetle. Hey, can you tell him? God. Tell him, tell him, tell him. So Andrew made a kit car, which is a fake Porsche. Do you know what a kit is? You have your hair looks great, sorry. So there's a, basically, very quickly, I'll get through this. It's just a fake car. A 356 Porsche Speedster is a... This is the car. This is...

Half a million dollars. You can't even find one if you wanted to. You can afford it. No. I found a $50,000. They basically make one out of an old beetle. You pay $50,000 for that? That's...

Fucking crazy. Wait, wait, wait. Pay for the look without the speak. As annoyed as I am by him. It's a replica Jordan. It's like people act through. It's a fake Jordan. It's a fake Jordan. It's a replica Jordan. It's a fake Jordan. It looks exactly like it, but it just wasn't made at the time Jordans were made. That's it. Exactly. What about the internet shit like that? So why? No, nothing. Nothing. It's the same. But everything made to spec, but.

I guess, whatever. The point is, it's a beautiful... I'm not like a car guy. It's gorgeous. I go to the subway. It's stunningly beautiful. That's what it is. Look at that car. Stunning. But it was a Frankenstein monster. It was a death trap. I mean, look at that. So supposedly, that's supposed to cost how much? That would cost $400,000, $500,000. And the one you had cost $50,000.

That's a thank you. White boy shit, man. Jamaican's gay. No, no, no, no. He didn't get to finish the story. Is that Jewish? It's a story. Whoa. This right here, y'all can get the test. He didn't get to finish the story. Oh, well, the problem is that it didn't work in a little far. If y'all find out this ain't worth what I paid for it, I'm jumping my jaw. He's acting out. He's acting out. The car didn't work in a little far. He's white, so you got to, like, white people. Hey, no. Um.

But we're not going to do the bus down anymore. Wait, hold on. The car didn't work? Tell them the funny – you guys don't even know this story. The car didn't work. It lit on fire. It stopped working. It was very bad. We're trying to sell it. The car is so beautiful that people still want to buy it, and they're like, we'll just put our own engine in it. It's stunning.

we'll figure it out. It is what it is. The bus down thing. Wait, yes. Go, go. You didn't finish it. So he's like, sell the car, get the car sold. We have a new business manager and the business manager. I said, get us the paperwork for the sold the Porsche pizza, but it's a kit car.

He gets back to me a week later. He's like, we can't find the documentation. Like, what's going on? What's this car? How do you get that registered? This idiot didn't tell them that it was a kit car. So they were looking for a fucking Porsche Speedster. So they're trying to find this registration for a real Porsche. The business manager calls and says, is the car a Volkswagen Beetle? Ha ha!

Because they use a Volkswagen Beetle chassis to make the car. It's registered in Arizona. Anyway, whatever, whatever. Moving on. Keep going. Oh, the bus down thing. You know that with the bus downs, we're not doing that. You could do it with the Cartier watch, but we're not doing it with the Rolexes. We're not doing it with... No, no, no. What if it's factory? Wait, wait.

There's no such thing as a factory bust down, but there's a factory diamond bezel on watches, etc. What I was actually trying to explain in terms of... Answer that one. Huh? Answer that one. No, no. This is my first watch. I'm not a watch guy. Why don't you just call me and then... Bro, this is my first watch. It's $25,000. It's a fucking Cartier little watch. Also, bust down to Santos. Hold on, hold on. You can't really be selling. I'm pretty sure... Listen, I talked to my man Vlad. He's extra white. I think he's Jewish.

He told me, no more of this shit. You know what I mean? You get one of these. I thought you were Jewish. That's why you had the thing sticking out of the side of your head. Oh, man. I get that. Hey, but so, yeah. So I won't be doing this to like every watch. I'm not the- This is the only watch you do. Yeah, that's the only watch. You know what I mean? And to be honest-

I also bought an obnoxious piece that goes around like one of the Cubans. It looks so stupid. When the guy told me, it's 3D. You're the prize. We're going to build you a box. It's going to be like a present. It opens up. The scorpion pops up. It looks so crazy. I'm glad you're out of that era. It's not that era. You have to do it once. Duval's Toilet is Fire. You got to have your moment. Also, I think...

It's so different for dudes coming from the internet era because nobody knows if anybody on the internet is making money. Like there are people on TikTok that are the most famous people and you're like, but are they making money? Like everybody's watching, but they make money. So I get you got to let motherfuckers know, no, this is different. Like we're out here, we're getting paper. But the biggest flex is not flexing.

Yes. You're right. The richest motherfuckers are wearing khakis and fucking sandals. Well, the rich are white guys. Diddy ain't going to lie. Diddy still flex on these. The black dude that owns the fucking oil. The guy doing the freak off is still going crazy. But he not the richest. Jay ain't flexing no more. Diddy not the richest. Jay don't flex no more. Jay got fucking dreads. He's wearing oversized t-shirts and shit. That's Alzheimer's right there.

Jay was the crazy one. Maybe he does. They flex in different ways. The point about all the streaming stuff like that, which I think a lot of people misconstrued with streaming,

There's a lot of people like for example, I talked to my man culture from Spotify who you're good at all day on topic culture right and Street thing was this he say yo, I here's the thing about streaming that people never really consider right whether we're told my bad bunny Which I want drink whoever he said, yo, you have you guys ever heard of the rapper yeet? Okay, he said by numbers. I

Yeet has the smallest audience that streams his music the most. His average fan listens three times as much as any other fan. So this is why streaming is also a little bit like it could be manipulative. Because when you hear that someone does 300 million streams, you're like, oh my God, how many people stream that? It could be 2 million people that stream that, right?

As opposed to, like, say, somebody else, they had 18 million people that did that. It's very interesting. It's very interesting. That's the interesting thing about streaming that sometimes people don't think about. When somebody bought your album back in the day, your CD, your cassette, you didn't know how many times they listened to it. Just one box. So you didn't know if somebody was a casual fan or a super fan. Yeats has super fans. It might not be everybody, but he has super fans. And...

How we view somebody like that it might be over amplified in terms of their like global ubiquitous success But it is underappreciated in terms of the investment of those people if they listen 200 fucking million times or whatever it is to your album They coming out to your shows. They're gonna go watch the minions movie and dress up. They like they're really locked in So let me ask you this question, right?

Would you rather have, let's say, 100,000 fans that will watch your special or come to your show 50 times versus having a million fans that will watch your special and come to your show two times? Two times total in their life? Well, two times for, let's say, the next four years. I understand the question that you're asking, but-

You're saying it's different with stand-up because when people... No, no, I get it. I do a new hour every time. So with music, I would rather what Yeet has. With stand-up... So you'd rather the small audience that's just really tapped in... Dying for you. But what about stand-up and comedy? Would you rather the bigger audience that like, hey, maybe they came to see you once in the last... Let me give you an example. Go ahead. Do you know the band Phish? Phish.

Seems like a setup, right? Don't fall for it. So there's Phish, there's Tool, there's, what's that shit? Grateful Dead. Grateful Dead. You never heard of these bands? Okay, I've heard of Grateful Dead. So all these bands, this is actually fantastic.

So all these bands have unbelievable live shows. They're like, well, at least with Grateful Dead and I think Phish, they're like jam bands. So they just go out there, start ripping. It's not exact songs, but they do have songs. But they've cultivated such a community. People go there, they exchange T-shirts, they exchange cassettes from other shows.

Going there is like almost a festival experience when they go to the show and people will go to 30 shows. They'll travel with fish. These people that I say are like the owners of basketball teams. 30 is a low number. People will be like, this is my hundredth show.

So their audience isn't even close to as big as Lil Baby's audience, but those people- Oh, that's how they spelled it. And show him what their show will be at Madison Square Garden. So Fish has performed at MSG 79 times. 79 times? No, they're going to do another one. They're about to do The Sphere. Oh, they're going to do The Sphere.

So these bands, they don't have the biggest- Do they have original songs? Of course, but they've cultivated an audience like what you're saying with Yeet, where it's just they are diehard fans. The experience is unbelievable, but the average person might not even know who the fuck they are.

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What's up? How do you feel about that? Because now you have the driver who has said he's seen Kelsey hold the girl. So are you vindicated now? Because you were saying that Tori is innocent and you were the biggest preacher of Tori being innocent. No, no, I was not innocent. You were the biggest preacher. No, no, I was a skeptical and a doubter of what was being told as the normal story. We all have a brain.

Okay, like, for example, the story that was being told is that if I told you a story, right? And again, if I told you a story that someone shot a woman because if I told you that you shot or I told you that a car shot a female comedian because she does his comedy abilities or his lack of comedic success, you'd be like.

I don't know if he's shooting women over him being dissed over that. Right? Now, if you give a better story, maybe you would be believing it, even though Akash is your friend. The story was rather weak when it came to Magnus Stallion. And I'm going to be honest with you. You know, again, I wasn't there at the trial. He was found guilty. You don't see me outside of jail like free Tory Lays. I'm like, all right, it is what it is. I left it alone. Mm-hmm.

Recently, though, the driver came up, which, by the way, here's the thing. If you're going to think about this night, you have three people who go to a party. It's a college generous party. They're all intoxicated. Apparently, one of them is about to be passed out. Try one of these. What is this? That's a weed shit. I'm good. It's not weed. It's a Zin. It's nicotine. Oh, hell no. No, no, no. You're going to be hooked. I'm good. It's not about a hook. You won't get hooked. Hell no. I'm good. It's like a dip.

Just try it. Will you just try it? I got an addictive personality for real, for real. This is not going to make you addictive. No, no. I have a really addictive personality. You see, whatever you're doing right there, you're going to see me with a mouth full of acorns, my nigga. We're not doing this shit.

You're not about to go get me like, nah, we're not doing this. Just try it. Nah, I can't do it, brother. You can literally take it out a second afterwards. You're not going to feel anything. Just try one. No, I can't do it, brother. I can't do it. Just try the white boy shit for one. Why are you so afraid? We drank it. We finished a whole... I get it. I get it. What is this? That's a bottle. That's a bottle. It's not a fifth?

It's like a fifth of Hennessy. No, it's not a fifth. It's more than a fifth. Here's the thing. Yo, Andrew, I can't do it. That's so funny. Yo, I am like, I'm an addict. One thing I've realized. How many fluid ounces is it? We can do the math. I can't do it. Why don't you try one? No, no, no, because I'm going to be addicted. You're not going to be addicted. You're not going to be addicted. It's such a stupid thing to think. And when you see me. Also, you're probably an alcoholic anyway, so what are you going to say? No, no, no. Probably. All right, so hold on. Let me ask you a question. Akash, when you see me.

Why are you saying it like that? That's out of racial. No, no, no. Yeah, it was so angry. You see me on a date with Saucy Santana for one of these. You're going to blame me for being an addict? Would you go on a date with Saucy Santana for some Hennessy? No, no, no. I might be an addict. I might be strung out by that. Would you go on a date with Saucy for some Hennessy? No, no, no. Because Hennessy is very plentiful. I don't know where you got that from. You get strung out on nicotine? It's hilarious. You can get these at the bodega. This is way more available than anything in your life. Way more available than alcohol. No, no, no. I'm good. I'm good. I'm good.

This is a peer pressure. Hey, let me tell you this. If anyone wants to be like, hey, how did academics succeed? At the- Hennessy. Well, even before then, at the probably most pivotal point in my life, I tried to eliminate- I have a very addictive personality. I eliminated everything. I didn't play video games. All I did was I was addicted to work.

now these days i'm addicted to henny and a few other things but at the time i was the most down bad i eliminated everything i was addicted to only doing what was going to give me some progress now you're so good yeah and here's the thing so now like i'm addicted to playing fortnite bro like you that's some you rubbing your gums what the fuck is going on yeah you don't have to do it like you gotta get on both sides suspect how to get on both sides how'd you make it gay how

Wait, you're addicted to Fortnite? Yeah, I play Fortnite all the time. Well, I use it to de-stress, but you can call it addiction because I play it a lot. Is there another game? NBA 2K, but like... Well, you're not good at that. Of course, I'm really good at it. Wait, so you play it on stream? Because when you're on stream, you're usually talking. Listen, really, I'm addicted to gambling. What do you mean you're addicted to gambling? No, I am. How so? It's something I'm not really proud about.

How much money are you putting down? And are you getting paid? No, no. This is like personal money. I've lost over $3 million gambling. God damn, bro. This is the way I laugh about it. That's crazy. No way. You won't do a Zin? Huh? You won't do a Zin? Hear what I'm saying? How much do you make?

Well, net total is minus three. Three million down. I want you to look up- So he lost more. Yeah, you know, it's- Hold on. That's just the balance of- I want you to look up three million dollars- God damn. No, it's not something you should be proud of. So like- With 8% interest over 20 years. You didn't? If anybody who gambles, you've lost money. I just know because I've gambled on one website a lot to the point where they give me all the-

I could go to any game. I get box seats at Madison Square Garden and like Prudential Center. You don't even shout out that name. That's how bad he is. I get box seats. What are you gambling on? It's like a virtual app, which is the worst because like. Not even sports? No, like Jack, but like you see virtual money. So it's not real to you. It looks like it's not real. That's the idea of chips. It's the worst thing because I've betted.

$60,000 on a single hand before, and I couldn't fathom sitting in person and see 60,000 in front of me in bed. But online, it just looked like a number, you know what I mean? So- This is off a million, I couldn't even do 3 million. So can you put in three? No, it wouldn't let me do three. So if you had $1 million and you just got 8%, so you just put it in the market, you got 8%, which is conservative, over how long?

20 20 years you would get 4.6 out of now listen That's not 3 million is gonna be even more compound on that. No, of course Wow, and by the way, we all we all have a vice. Oh, no, we all have our vices Oh, let's be honest. You know, I want you to know your your real Cost of your vice. No, of course. No, and by the way, I have definitely taken steps to you know Stop that

Well, really, I don't really play as much anymore. You stopped gambling? Yeah. Or you completely stopped or you... I mean, significantly decreased like 90%. How do you limit yourself? Shit, I ain't gonna lie. My bank limited me. I ain't gonna lie. It was like, yo, if you're gonna put quarter million dollars in a fucking casino, hold on. Let's talk to you for a second. So really, you had a real addiction with this? I mean... This is a very common thing. I just want to let you know. You're not like the only person. No, definitely call it that. Is that why you shit on Drake's album? Because of the steak? Yeah.

No, actually, well, here's the thing too, which I could definitely get a gambling. In a heartbeat. Before I signed to Rumble, Kick wanted to do some stuff with me. Why wouldn't you do it? I'm going to be honest with you. I didn't want to get too much into gambling because it was going to enable that habit. So they would give me millions to gamble too, right? To gamble. And it would just make you- But I was at the- I'm going to tell you, I knew my gambling was a little bit out of control.

Like, I remember losing $400,000 three times. Jesus fucking Christ, dude. And it was because I couldn't, I needed, I wanted to have half a million before I withdrew. And I gambled and gambled and I lost it three times. I never got to the half a million. Yeah, yeah. Wow. And you get to realize, you know what I mean? I tell people, I'm like, hey, listen. Just alone in your home, just you. What do you do right after that? Go to sleep. I mean, at that point, sometimes. That's why you got to say why you were emotional with the saucy shit.

You got there, it had nothing to do with Saucy. No, no, no. I was like, the game website made me a party boy. If anything, I would probably say for people like Saucy, if I'm losing $400,000 multiple times...

If you think me and you about to be boxing, you in for a really bad surprise. It's got to be big money. No, I'm trying to say I get you knocked off before I do anything like that with you. What does that mean, knocked off? I don't know what that means. No one knows what that means. Sounds like you have sex with them. Beat them up and then have sex with them. Knocked up. Is that what you said? Knocked up? Yeah, you knock them up. Knocked up like that. I think Akash will knock them up. Movie knocked up. How do you navigate streaming on all different platforms and also having ads?

That's kind of interesting, but I love live streaming. This is a year of live streaming. It really is, bro. It's crazy. I've honestly taken a slight hit, especially after we culminated our podcast contract with Spotify. What do you think the future of that is with Spotify? Well- Because Spotify's firing people like crazy. They're making more money now. They're saving money.

So you think they invested all the money in terms of to gain market share. Now they have market share and they're like, okay, we don't need to invest as much in private. They're going to do a little bit more content, but I think at this point –

they're just trying to find ways to make revenue. I think they're a new thing because now they're the number one in podcast listening. They're going to probably try to incite and offer it to people who they don't have to pay exclusive contracts to. But hey, listen, we have a monetization strategy where you can do ads for us. So just like YouTube, they're trying to compete with YouTube. Yeah, of course. So obviously, I think they knew what they were doing with the exclusive contracts and pretty much

I think from what I last was told, it was like they only got like about four left. Why didn't they re-sign you or why didn't you re-sign with Spotify? It was kind of mutual. Like, first of all, what they were asking for, it didn't make sense for us to continue. What were they asking for? A lot of episodes per week. But I mean, you stream a lot. The way you stream is like a nine to five job. There were three podcasts from Spotify that I think would have viral moments.

It was Joe Rogan. What's her name? Call her daddy. Call her daddy. Academics. Yeah. I don't know another podcast that would have viral moments. Now, I'm not Daniel Elk. I don't know what he's looking for. Maybe he feels like your market share is already there or something. But I don't know another podcast that would have viral moments that exists on the Internet.

Then those three. They're not paying for viral moments. Yeah, I don't know if they're listening to just viral moments. Like they're looking at just like I listen to NPR news and shit like that on Spotify daily. Put it like this. Spotify has been in a very interesting position for the last year where with all due respect to the top two podcasts who they claim is top two is...

Rogan and what do you mean they claim? Well, I mean, I know Rogan's number one, but they claim that corn daddy's number two. And you don't believe that they claim.

I think she has a massive market. No, no, she does. But if you look at all podcasts, that's Rogue. It always comes number one. I don't know if she always comes number two. But again, it's their asset. So it's number two for them. You get what I'm saying? No. No. Tell me what you think about that. He's saying that even if they're not number two, they're going to say she's number two because she has the exclusive contract. So there's going to be like, if she's four, let's just move her to two. Which makes sense. Right. But...

at the point that they are they're at is like they're not looking for necessarily like viral moments and shit like that i i think they're looking for okay we have to keep these two to keep a significant audience here but the majority of their traction and audience were not coming from creator-filled podcasts like for example

I've seen some of the stats, like most of their listenership because it stopped becoming about, okay, how much do you guys publish a week, once or twice?

Once regular and then once patron. Okay, so once. So great, you guys might do phenomenal numbers, but they're like, well, we have NPR or we have whoever. And they're doing more volume. And also they're like, you know, some of these like true crime podcasts. It's not necessarily about unique visitors. It's about how many people you could get coming. So really they're looking at it like,

Even with us, they would have wanted us to drop every day. They want hours, listen. Yes. Because me and my lawyer was arguing about this. It was like, yo, hey, listen, per the contract, you just need to drop. And I'm like, if the content isn't good, I don't want to drop. They're like, you just have to drop. And I'm like, it's going to water down the brand. They're like, well, listen.

It's all about just getting the content out. Yeah. So that's a different strategy than what most creators would want, right? So like if you guys signed, I don't know, what's the number for you guys? 40 million? 300 million. 300? Mm-hmm.

Well, he's just not into anything. 300? Maybe 300. Okay, I bet. Yeah, nine figures. Okay, cool. You got Rogan's contract, right? I think Rogan does three a week or two a week? Four, I think, sometimes. Yeah, sometimes. Really? Okay, cool. Now you guys have to do eight a week. Also, you have to keep a career up. Can't do it. Yeah. Okay. I'm out. So now you can't really do it, but...

You are in this contract. You're trying to do it. I don't think people realize what Rogan does, bro. It's insane. Of course. And not just the number of episodes, the duration of each episode. Of course. And every person he's speaking to.

Except comics is an expert in their fields and he has to know what the fuck they're talking about to ask questions about. He's fucking amazing. And does two hours of comedy a week at the comedy club. Yeah. And with us, if there's a moment where I'm not listening, he's probably listening, he's probably listening, he's probably listening. He's locked in. We're all listening. He's all him. It's insane. God, gosh. Yes. So that's the thing. So-

Once you realize, you know, because so Spotify, other than for the flagship, you know, at first the contracts that they're giving out is, hey, we're we want people.

We're doing user acquisition contracts. Hey, well, you're the hip-hop guy. Or say before me, Joe Budden. We want to get the hip-hop people over here, so we're paying you really to bring the hip-hop audience. Right. Right? Okay, well, Joe Rogan, you're this guy. We're paying for your audience to come here. And that's cool for the first year or two. Then the mentality turns into, well, shit.

It's also about the sales team. Now, what the sales teams need. They need... They need views. Views. Yeah. A lot of episodes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So now it's like, okay, cool. All these celebrity podcasts they did that was supposed to be once every month. Those are done. So now they're like, for the regular podcast, like say they gave you a contract, they're like, well, we said you was cool with once a month, but we need to up it up. So...

Their business model changed a bit. And then, you know, midway through and, you know, you know, again, I love Spotify. I think they did an amazing job. Unbelievable what they've done. Of course. But also everyone who reinvented and revolutionized the podcast game there.

They were content people who then moved on. And also they already ate up your market share. So they just want to get you listening or watching podcasts on their platform once they get that. And here's the thing, too. So they were also carefully watching as they're spending, hey, millions here, millions here, millions here. Every quarter they're going back to their investors saying, hey, we're down, but trust the vision.

The stock price dropped from damn near almost 300 to 60. Spotify isn't Disney Plus. Spotify isn't Netflix. I'm watching Netflix as long as there's a Netflix show I want to watch. Spotify is my listening app. If I want to listen to music, I turn on Spotify. If I want to look for a podcast, I turn on Spotify. So if they gobble up all of your audience...

Once they know they have your audience. They've already committed. They're buying they're spending every month They have a confidence that they're not gonna your audience is not gonna stop listening Matter of fact, if you just go do your podcast on your own, you're probably gonna upload it to Spotify We're already on Spotify right now for free. Mmm. Why would they pay us 300? Mmm, we're we're not on a Spotify exclusive contract anymore. We still have loaded Spotify. I

Yeah. Right? You know, Joe infamously, who had to deal with them, at first he tried to withhold. He was like, yo, I'm not putting it on there. What's Joe? Joe. Oh. By the way, also— Joe is always Joe Rogan. Okay, okay, my bad. Well, someone which— There's Joe Rogan, Joe Biden. I'll leave it nameless for now, but someone told me on Spotify, which—

To me, that was very, like, alarming but indicative of how they viewed things. They said, hey, when Joe did this whole thing. Which Joe? Joe Budden. Oh, my God, my nigga. There's one Joe. Okay. The second Joe is the president. When Joe Budden said, yo, hey, listen, I'm not putting my stuff on Spotify and whatever, we're boycotting. They literally cited the actual number of people that they knew unsubscribed.

And it was like, I don't even want to say the number. They could actually be like, oh, it's like 15 people that left. So they looked at that and they were like, oh, good riddance.

According to what they told me, I don't know. There was a... And by the way, I'm not saying that to be an indictment against Joe. No, I know, I know. This is a business strategy. It's not even a shot because there's very few people... They're probably saying the same thing. When you first brought your audience here, they've been subscribed for two years. You were here for two years, motherfuckers.

Exactly. Right? They've been listening to not only your podcast, other podcasts, music, this and third. Now we're done with you. How many people you think are going to, like, you could leave the charts like, hey, leave Spotify. How many people think you're going to leave? Because I think audio platforms are much less. So it's like once you subscribe to an audio platform, it's like you're here.

But like video, there's a thousand of them. It's way easier to switch from a Netflix to a Hulu to a whatever. It's behavior. It's like, yeah, it's like we're not going to Netflix because of because we have this behavior that just turns on Netflix. We're on Netflix because they have a show we really want to watch. So they need to create keep creating content with Spotify. The majority of our time on Spotify is with music. So once it becomes our music platform, we'll also listen to podcasts there.

So it's very hard for me to unsubscribe to Spotify, which I now listen to music. I listen to all my other podcasts on or do whatever I listen to just because one person left. I'll just go follow that one person to wherever else they go, but I'll also keep this platform. I just need to get you into the store. Name audio-only platforms. Yes. And by the way, I think this is why they only keep, and if you look at all their exclusives, they're only keeping things for namesake platforms.

Rogan because you can't have Rogan go wide. Can't. You keep Rogan. You keep Caller Daddy. I think there's like two more or so. And after that, everyone else, thank you for your contribution. Yeah, I can't think of anyone else. Which, by the way, here's the thing. I knew it was going to be that all along. It's almost like it's more beneficial for you for the first time to sign a crazy long deal. It's almost better for you to be like, instead of two years, give me a 10-year deal. You know what's so funny about that?

I feel like it almost gets like off, off podcast, like kind of conversation. I remember, you know, like me and my lawyers, we would always be talking and there was a time where like, even our strategy used to be like, yo, we want the shortest period of time that we could renegotiate. Like, fuck no. Tell them like, yo, we're here for 20 years. 20 years.

You know what I mean? We're over 20 years with the biggest amount of money because what happens is that- You gave them your whole audience. They realized they love the listening platform. They stay there. They have analyzed the fuck out of the statistics. They know they're-

I mean, we'd have these quarterly meetings, like, hey, this is how your audience acts, blah, blah, blah, blah. They are engaged, blah, blah, blah. You'd almost like, listen, I'm like, yo, how the fuck do you know my audience more than me? Oh, yeah, motherfucker, we've been tracking you. So now it's like, all right, cool. Hey, listen, you know,

We could bring you on back for continued years, but it will be definitely way less than what you thought it was. Because they already got your people and they know they're not going anywhere. And by the way, here's the thing though. One thing I'll say, I'm never like, you know. But that's why I say the number's so high. I don't think that the number for us is honest, if you will. Dove uses this term like honest when it comes to a deal. Our number isn't honest, but I know that if we bring all of our listeners onto a platform,

If your platform is good, like Spotify is good, they're just going to keep listening to everything there. So what is the cost to bring all of our listeners onto your platform forever? You don't have to pay for two years. You pay them forever. So let's talk about Rogan. Do you think Rogan is getting properly compensated or? No, he deserves even more. If Rogan went to Apple, I think everybody would go to Apple. I think he has that much influence. Oof.

By the way, let's go back to the last conversation we were talking about, like, well, a couple, like, maybe an hour ago, moving audience. Like, if Rogan says today, I'm out. Big deal. Well, here's the other thing. Here's the other thing. If he says I'm out, he also has so much money that he could be like, I'm out. I just, I don't want to be on your platform anymore. And matter of fact, I'm not even going to upload my podcast to your platform. I'm just going to put it on YouTube. Mm-hmm.

Yeah, if he stops putting it on the platform. But if he continues... Why would he continue? If he's like, listen, I can get all my YouTube... If he leaves the platform... If he does what Joe Bund was doing, that would work. Because his market share is just ridiculous. Because people need that. And they need it four times a week. So now he could be like, listen, guys, I think I'm going to need a little more. It was rumored that it would pay him like $100 million a year. Like...

Do you think they're upping it or they just have to keep it the same? They would have to up it, I think. Really? What is the cost to the stock? I think that's what you got to look at. It's like, what is the hit the stock takes? If the stock takes a billion dollar hit, you got to pay him a billion. You have a fiduciary responsibility to the stockholders. Well, they haven't let him go yet. I will tell you this, though. Ever since they've cut their spending back, because shit, I follow the stock. I ain't going to lie to you, which I've never told anyone. I'll tell you this.

The money they gave me the first year, I dumped half of it in stock, which, by the way, tanked. It only came back on the hour. It did. It tanked. Stop gambling, bro. That's not gambling. I'm like, yo. How do you bet on yourself twice? That's crazy. Side note. Side note. Anyway, anyway, anyway. No, no. It's good now, though. It's good now. By the way, it's good now that I left. I got to say this. I'm up in crypto, bro. Really? Wow.

Didn't I tell you? Hold on. Hold on, man. Hold on for dear life. I love you. I'll be big with you. There's no way. I'm back even. I'm up in the air.

in crypto two years in the making well you got bitcoin or like 150 percent in 150 000 percent 150 percent 150 percent 150 mil bought at the high 150 dollars no yeah there's no way that's done i went over it today i was shocked dollar coin yeah i text my wife because after i bought the first bitcoin that was the worst investment i've ever made in my life i

I came back and I told my wife, I was like, I'm putting everything in crypto. She's like, don't do it, don't do it, don't do it. And then I kept putting money in.

And I guess I kept buying at low enough amounts that now it has readjusted and because I think it's at like 45 grand right now. So I think it has given me some sort of profit. Wow. That's fire. I got most of my money in theory. So Akash was right. Wow. The long game. Hunches, baby. The long game. Yo, y'all want to go through like hip-hop rapid fire? Oh, I have a hip-hop question about Diddy. Yes. How much do you think he paid Cassie? $40 million or $50 million?

$40 million. You got to pay more than what she was asking for before. Yes, exactly. That was what I thought. People thought that they settled for less. Nah. If you're Diddy, you pay upwards of $100 million. You pay a Spotify contract. Hey, listen, sir. I think Diddy saw that shit and he saw the visceral response, which obviously was going to happen, but he knew...

Hey, listen, you're on the board of a lot of these other companies. By the way, what people don't even realize about Revolt, he funds it. He funds Revolt with his own money. That's crazy. Not only does he fund it with his own money, for anything that's subsidiary to what he's funding, it requires advertisers. So instantly he saw his mortality. It didn't take like a board to go tell him.

Any of these companies, most of Diddy's things, he's not one of the guys who's like, hey, oh, you know, I have a percentage of he's he likes to own all of his shit. So he's seen his mortality quickly. And for him to say this came out today, let's close it out. And I need you. You have to remember, you have to pay them to basically say, hey, this is over in 24 hours right before weekend.

They wanted 30. Gotta go above it. Can I tell you the rumor I heard? I don't know how reliable they are, but they're definitely not people that just throw shit out there like that. I heard 100 million. Never know. That's crazy. I've heard 50 a bunch. I don't know if it's 100. She only asked for 30? She only asked for 30, but if you're her...

Everybody seemingly believes you. Oh, the price went up. It seems like I'm going to win. And there's clearly, I believe her. But even if you don't, there's clearly animosity and hatred toward this guy. So if I can ruin your fucking life and get my $30 million, how much you got to pay me to not ruin your fucking life?

are not realizing that her lawsuit was really strategically written, that she left out the most important things that could really ruin him. So what you saw in the lawsuit, so what you saw in the lawsuit was a teaser. Like, that was a porno. This is just an appetizer. That was a nigga just rubbing his pants. He ain't pull a cock out yet. You feel me? So, no, I'm serious. Ain't no pause. Like, the nigga's rubbing his shit. So,

What was required to pay was, hey, if they're going that crazy now, imagine if I drop the bomb. And he didn't want it to get there. And I heard he paid a pretty penny. This is one thing I've also heard that's incorrect that people are running with in the hip hop community.

they're saying that insurance paid for it. Fuck no. That's not true. Listen, if anybody has any insurance policy, I don't care on what. No insurance pays in a day. Also, to his point, there's no insurance. Imagine calling up one of these insurance companies. What about

Like what's the policy? So easy a K-Bank can do it. Yes, that's how easy it is. Yo, but there's a few people who are really in belief. Warren Buffett. What's your monthly premium for mutilating and f***ing women? There's a few people who they were trying to equate it to this. They said, well,

Cassie not only sued Diddy, but also his companies, but she sued his companies as an employee. And that would trigger the insurance policies to kick in to pay it off. I just know there's no insurance policy on earth that says when you file a claim,

As soon as they see it, take the money. Listen, if your car gets hit, they'll fucking at least go look at the shit 20 times before they even pay you. Okay, before we wrap this up, we have a couple questions. Go ahead, man. A lot of questions. Okay. Does Gunna's comeback end the snitching stigma? No. No.

It's really divided with the gunna thing. There's a lot of street rappers acting like they're not with it. I think it's a signal to most rappers that fans don't care because it's fans that don't care. If you talk to any rapper in Atlanta, they act like gunna is like 6'9". But then it gets awkward. I won't tell you who messaged me, but I said something. I did Yachty's podcast and I said, yo, why is everybody in Atlanta acting like

Gunna's not the hottest rapper out. And everybody's acting like they didn't hear, whatever the case is. And one particular rapper, I won't say who it is. Well, I'll say she. She hits me up and she says, it's so interesting because all of these dudes, they don't want to talk bad about him because they don't have beef with him, but they don't want to acknowledge him. And it's because they want to act like they're tough and thuggy, whatever the case is.

I don't think that it means that, oh, you could cooperate or whatever. But what it has shown is that the street entities who thought that they're dictating whatever, if you really appease the fans, it doesn't matter. Music wins always. The music wins. Kanye's coming back. By the way, here's the thing. People have turned on Lil Baby because of Gunna. Question.

Is Kanye's run with music over? Never. Never. Kanye's run is about to start again. Do you really think he still has it? Kanye's new album.

People are listening to it. By the way, this is how garbage music has been. Yeah. People are listening to everybody making songs that have nothing. There's no substance, no nothing about it. That when they hear Kanye West coming out with music that he always has this palette of music that really is meaningful and really is like, you know, earth shattering. They're saying that Kanye West is back. How?

How long has it been since he's had an album like that? Well, some people are going back to 2019. I think it was 2019 or 18 when The Life of Pablo dropped. That was, to me, the last impactful album. That was like 2016, 2017. Everything has been a miss since then. A while ago. Stop it. When he went up against Drake, his album was so much. By the way, people love Don as well. Yeah.

everything like like i don't think donna was i thought the first week is not what it wasn't the thing with kanye is what rap is missing and what most musicians missing and unfortunately drake is such a phenomenal artist if he got this one thing he would be more in the realm of being in comparison to michael jackson his presentation is always garbage

Kanye West will drop some shit with the best presentation possible. He'll premiere it on the fucking, he'll have projectors on the side of some pyramids and some shit. He knows how to give it up and you

You see him on stage with his fucking barefoot with his socks on. His daughter is there. Every rapper is behind him just looking lame, just like sitting there because they know Kanye is the guy. Drake, no matter how great of a rapper he is. Yes. I'm sorry. It is what it is. It means something. I think Kanye is so corny. He's unbelievably corny. No, he is. When did he become such a Zionist, yo? What is happening?

I just feel like Kanye, like everything I see him do is just so unbearably corny. And then when I hear him rap, the rap is corny. The rap is falling off. The bars are corny. It doesn't matter. He's always been a horrible rapper, but like the music has been so good you forget it. It doesn't matter. Yeah. He's teaming up with Ty Dolla $ign. Whoa.

His voice is unbelievable. By the way, a person who people feel has been the underground king of R&B for a long time. Just never got the credit. Kanye's the person. Kanye's production has been phenomenal, but not in the last almost decade. This is why Kanye is great. Ty Dolla $ign, everybody's saying criminally underrated. You know what Kanye says? Fuck it, I'll stand next to him. Drake is going to stand next to Sexy Red at our peak.

He's going to stand next to the other hottest actor. No, because I think Drake will put people on. What I would say the difference— He's not doing a collab album with a Ty Dolla $ign. No, but he'll put people on that you don't really know about yet. But he'll find them here. He'll find them here. He finds them on that. He won't be doing a—this is a collab album. This is a Yeezus, Ty Dolla $ign album. That's different. Do you know what stamp that is? This is a guy who is—

who used to be on Chris Brown's songs for eons ago and never got the proper credit for like his- But to me, that says that Ty Dolla $ign got nothing to lose. Of course he has nothing to lose. But Kanye West could do an album with anybody. It'd be a little tough. Tougher now. Who? Kanye would do an album with anyone now? Kanye can't even sample the Backstreet Boys. What are you talking about? Do an album with anybody? Who could Kanye West do an album with anybody? Backstreet Boys.

They say no. Okay, you're talking about Backstreet Boys. Everybody but you. First of all, the Backstreet Boys is a bunch of bums. Let's be honest. Kanye and fucking Wes. They just trying to get a payback. Yo, this is Kanye West. Kanye West and hip hop is fucking hip hop royalty. Everybody who's around him, including Drake. Drake just rapped recently saying, every time I thought it was cool with me and you, I was excited, but it wasn't that.

Even Drake wants to be cool with the guy. Jay wouldn't do an album with Kanye. I don't think Jay would do an album with Kanye again. Drake tried to come back around about him. Jay probably wouldn't, right? Because Jay got some other shit going on. I'm talking about the rest of the rappers. You know how it's hard to get Jay-Z on a collab album at this point? I'm saying the entire rap community. I largely agree with you. Anything he does...

They would like put it like this. All those rappers you've seen on stage, they're fucking jealous of Ty Dolla $ign. They're like, why him? Kanye still got it with the rap community for sure. I was just finding an exception. I don't think Jay would, but everybody else, yeah. Talking about hip hop, wrestling, and WWE, Youngboy and Dirk. Is that real or is that fake? Completely real, unfortunately. Really? Yeah.

You know, I was covering it recently. I feel like both of them need it and they use each other as well. They do use it. And that's what I'm saying. Like, unfortunately, sometimes the hip hop and this is why people look at hip hop like this. There's sacrifices. Like, for example, Kwan Arondo, the guy who went broke because nobody playlists his music anymore. The industry blackballed him because he killed King Ron. He's young boy's friend. He

Young boy every time he disses little dirk makes millions of dollars because he's gangsta even though he's on probation or house arrest He has an ankle monitor can't go past his mailbox But if he says you know little dirk if I ever see you ever once I get this thing off I'm gonna kill you millions of dollars the guy who was involved in incident fighting and the gunshot went off and

Everybody in the industry hates him because he killed King Vaughn and everybody loves him. So yeah, those guys, Dirk, this is young boy for attention. He does hate him though. You know what I mean? So it's not bullshit. It's not bullshit. I don't think they're both just drawing it up just to like... But how much do you hate your enemy when there's some symbiotic nature of it where...

I can't hate you if you're making me money. Yeah, you're making me money. And I'm making you money. Like, for example, yo. It's Batman and Joker, bro. So Youngboy just said something recently. He was like, yo, they asked him about, like, Lil Durk and he says, yo, we talk all the time on the phone. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, of course. Yeah, you guys make money, to be honest.

Youngboy sales tanked ever since he stopped dissing Dirk. His highest sales was dissing Dirk. Dirk's highest sales was acting like he was going diss Youngboy. Did he still have the same influence? I remember when you came to Brooklyn, the first time you said, these kids are fucking Youngboy. He's the guy. He still has the same influence.

These kids look up to him especially like these young black kids like they really think so and be young so the sales have dropped Dramatic. Yes, because what happens in people called out the whole industry buying sales No, because what happens in the music industry is that you know, I would imagine I like comedy if they see something working They add a lot of like sauce to it so if we see that you could pull out 200 people by doing a

Now we're going to do A times 15. And then it gets exhausting. And then we're going to have bots into it. So, you know, I'm in an argument with NBA Youngboy fans these days. They're like, yo, the YB better. They used to have bots. Like you would tweet something like, YB better. And I said, hey, listen, a lot of that was real. But the industry and the labels who don't know how to promote, they're smart. Once they see that start to work, they start to.

hire people that would hire bots to type that all day. They're in disbelief. So it's the illusion of fandom. A lot of hip-hop is the illusion. Okay, Charleston White. Charleston White was one of the funniest motherfuckers in the game. He is. Do you think he got... So he gave me credit because one time I was watching him like,

One of the most compelling communicators I've ever heard in my life. It is impossible to see a clip of him when you're scrolling and not stop and wait for the whole thing. There are very few human beings that can stop a scroll. Do you respect him as a comedian? He's not a comedian. He's not a stand-up. Not yet, but he's hilarious. He's trying. He's trying.

Maybe he's on stage. Would you have him on here? Yeah, I think we would. Before he said this most recent thing, no. He charged it. No, no. Listen, I'll bring him on here with y'all. Before he said the, I mean, if you guys came on, that'd be amazing. Yes, let's do it. But before he said this most recent thing, I'd be like, I don't know, because he had said some very fucked up. The duality about him is ridiculous. Then he recently came out. Did you watch the Cam Newton one? It was the Cam Newton one. Fucking amazing, right? And he was like, listen, I did all this communication.

You need to work. I've been working with these different people. I've been trying to change laws. Nobody took me seriously. I came out and I played this ignorant character and all of a sudden I became the biggest thing on the internet. So I'm just milking that. That's the only way to communicate to you guys. And,

Now that he said that, I go, okay, I can look at all these horrendous things that you've said that I wouldn't want to platform. And I can go, oh, that's a character that you're playing. You could do that. I'll try to do a comedy show with him out here. I saw that. And you would say some stuff about some Asian people. But those are the things that I'm like, if he's actually. At the time he said some wild shit. I think like right now you would have no problem doing that.

I don't know if in New York City. I'll probably go down south. Because I'm going to be honest with you, like even when, you know, talking about like just being controversial and shit, even when I was having a show out here-

Man, I had to have some conversations with some of the venue owners and certain people that I was like, these aren't even things that people talk about, but they were concerned about even me. Yeah. So like Charles and White, I'm like. Well, I mean, down south, unilaterally, they don't give two fucks. Yeah, but you stepped on stage in New York and you had people pressing you. Like that was a thing where it's like. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Establishments need to consider when you go on stage. No, no, no.

But it wouldn't be that. So what you're talking about, I went on, somebody invited me out. So this is back on Fit Guys and the Fig Media guys. They invited me out to a show. Again, it was a show with a bunch of gangster dudes on it. Obviously, like, you know, a guy like me who touts like, yo, listen, you do something to me, I'm going to call the police. They didn't like too much. So they started heckling me a little bit.

I love that. You know what I mean? Because I really love live shit. But an establishment doesn't love that. So if you are drawing that type of engagement, they're not going to want you to be on stage and you draw that type of engagement. Okay. No, no. Okay. Granted. But what I'm trying to say is that's not the normal engagement because that wasn't my crowd. So it's not that if I threw a...

because I did an event before. I did it in Jersey. It was the most... But your event is different than a Charleston event. No, no, no. What he's talking about is imagine you go out... No, I know his situation. Imagine you come out to my show, right? And my show thinks you're racist. And they're like, fuck Andrew Schultz. Yeah.

If you threw an event and it was your crowd, they're not going to say, fuck Hands and Shoes. They're going to be like, yo, that's our guy. So that's kind of what happened there. What I'm saying is if you threw the Charleston event, the venue might be concerned that there are people that are upset at Charleston. But again...

I just, that's only New York. Do I think fair enough? I just think he's such a compelling communicator. And then if this is all a character by design, like if he sat in a room somewhere and he was like, how do I get my message out better? Okay. Let me try to do this. I'm fascinated that if I, if I sit down with blue face and blue face goes,

Yeah, listen, I just kind of like assess the market. I assess what I could do. And I thought, oh, wow, I'm actually really good at creating these storylines and creating drama and chaos within this relationship dynamic that I'm pretty good at. These girls I've talked to, they're kind of on board with it. We're going to light the internet on fire. I want to hear that behind the scenes. I want to hear. Now, is he willing to come out and say that while it's happening? Maybe not, but maybe a few years from now. I don't think none of these people are that much in control. Fair enough. Even Charles White.

For me, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh. So you don't think Charleston did this on purpose? I'm not saying he didn't do it on purpose, but I know Charleston, and he's the person where when he crossed the lines, it's because of ego and emotion. And yes, he does have a general, like, hey—

this is the angle I want to approach it at. But it's not like some like maniacal plan. Like when it comes across perfectly, like for example, he called me after, you know, that did millions of views with him in Cam Newton. He said, that should have been me or you. He's like, you challenged me in that way where it'll bring out that side of me. But when he's being challenged by these gangbangers, you know, he tells them, you don't run up on me, I'll kill you. That's his thing. It's not like some really like carefully like, no, I have this all in control. It's like, no, I'm,

I'm kind of going through this and I'm taking it as it is. And, you know, hopefully it kind of works out good at the right moment. Like, for example, I feel like both of y'all navigate that way. Like you kind of call motherfuckers out who sometimes are really about that life. And it's like, you know, so so one thing is a call out. You won't hear like what? And I tell I tell Charles to this. Don't.

Say things against large groups of people when you're offended by one person. You're offended by somebody who's Asian. Don't diss all Asian people, right? Just that guy. Yeah, right. Because it was him and China Mac. Yeah, just that one guy. Right? Now, with me— And China Mac is going to want to handle that. Yeah. Now, with me and I think with Charleston and maybe a few people in that space, it's like, yeah, you're not going to— especially in a place like that, you're not going to punk me into—

like fear in you type of stuff is like dog like for example like my song like i'm like why am i scared of you you know i mean and obviously maybe other people are looking at like well this is like encouraged no nobody's scared of you you know i mean and um i'm gonna continue to stand on that you know i mean like somebody like my song or some random bum because here's the thing a lot of hip-hop meet this is why i like people what's the issue with my song

Well, there's a lot of people who feel like, you know, because you're not from their environment, like he's a guy who used to walk around with a hole in picket fence. Yo, you know, Black Lives Matter, whatever the case is. Before my son was on that time, he was really on that time, though.

Well, regardless of what his platform is, his issue with me is because you have people who think that they're deserving of your platform and you didn't work hard enough for it. Or based on what they do, they should get the same attention as you.

I'm not here to dictate the results. You can do what you do. I do what I do. If the results aren't the same for you, it's not on me to try to make that for you. You think there's an envy play there? No, of course. He's like, yo, hey, anything I do wrong, you'll be like, hey, this is the guy you all listen to. Look at him.

Right. So it's like, well, I get you're doing that. Number one, they're not going to stop listening to me. It's not going to diminish my platform. But also, if you think this is helping you in any type of way, it's not.

But then you get that type of person who tries to, you know, then use what they feel is their advantage to try to belittle you because they can't get people to stop messing with you. Hey, Andrew's a punk. You know what? Andrew, you know, like, I'll fuck Andrew up. Or they'll say whatever the case is to now intimidate you. And obviously they want your space. So they want you to be like, you know what? You got it. You know what? I'm going to go over. I'm going to go to that other town and I'm going to leave you alone. But

But at some point, you got to stand up for yourself because these people don't know you. I don't know my son. I've never had a conversation with him. Also, I've always said this. You can't... We had him on Brilliant. He was great. Well, I've always said, if someone isn't willing to have a conversation with you, I said that about that Looney Tunes guy. Yeah, I had on Brilliant as well. Oh, yeah. Why don't you guys talk? Nah, there's no need. If someone isn't too...

I told him that. I was like, you guys should just have a pod. If someone isn't willing to have a conversation with you, why should you really even validate the conversation or what they're saying about you? That's fair. If you're not willing to talk to the person you're criticizing. You have these people who think they're morally superior to you. At this point, I'm a whole boss. You think I'm going to sit down with a loony tune nigga who's getting paid 50 bucks an hour from Charlamagne and sit there while he's over there...

Thinking he's giving me game? Shut up. There is an argument to be said that you need to be on a certain level to maybe have conversations. I just said it to Adam recently. The same guy who Al was talking about. There was an argument about with Al. Remember I didn't want to say the guy's name?

But I said it to Adam. I said, Adam, the guy made some good points, but you're at the point where you could choose who you sit down with because that guy is there to try to dunk on you. You know nothing about him. He knows everything about you. And he's just trying to get some type of viewership off your embarrassment. Yeah, that's a good point. Would you sit with anyone at this point? No. No.

You can't. But I'll only sit with the people that I'm interested in. Yeah, that's the J Blue of 50 by responding to him. And that's what I think he realized because I think with Adam with that situation yesterday, like he was trying to sit with some guy named Charlie Kirk, but it wasn't him. They swapped it out for this like grifter and this guy went crazy. Hey, you know who I want to ask you guys about? Yeah. Because I'm about to do an interview with him. Matt Reif. Yes. What do you guys think about him?

Matt Rife has had an unbelievable rise to superstardom in the stand-up community. I saw his shit pop up on YouTube, which I think he must use YouTube in a really unique way. YouTube and TikTok. TikTok is where he really blew quick. But unbelievable fast rise. I've never seen anything like it. And I think sometimes what happens is when you have a super fast rise, we were talking about this on Patreon a bit, but you don't have...

Your fans don't have the time to like really like invest and understand you for who you are. So anything that kind of goes against their perception of you, because again, they don't really know who you are just yet. They're quick to react to and be like, hey, this isn't the version of you that I thought you were.

Whereas like your fans, fans that have been listening to you for what the last 10 years you've been doing content, you could say pretty much any fucked up thing. And they'll be like, I know who ACK is. I've been listening to ACK eight hours a week. So I think what happens with Matt is he's in a situation where there's so many people watching him that don't really know him.

And then it's very easy to get a convoluted idea of who he is. And there's a lot of people that I'm sure are looking at him and going, fuck that guy for being so famous.

Remember, when you get really successful, people want to tear you down. That's just human instinct. I also knew him from Wild N' Out. He's a sweet kid. To me, he's 27 now. He's a sweet, nice person. I saw him do a few interviews. It was kind of hilarious because I saw him with my man Dave Portnoy from Barstool. He was pretty much explaining. He's like, yo, in a sense, he said something that I've heard in rap before from Dave East and a few other people. He felt like

maybe his perceived attractiveness hurts his comedy. And that was like a whole conversation. I was like,

Dave East once said that and people were laughing about it, Bill, like, motherfucker, you just can't rap, my nigga. What do you think? You look too good to rap. You know what I mean? But he made a... I was listening to his ideas about it, compelling thing. It was like, hey, listen, when you're a comedian, usually it's your words that is making people enamored about what the fuck they're into with you. And he was just like, yo...

He would have these shows where a woman would just show up just to be like, yo, he looks amazing. Your skill always has to exceed whatever else you bring. So Tom Brady is the most handsome dude, but he's nice and he's nicer than he is handsome.

As long as you're nicer than you are, whatever else you're nicer than you are tall. You're nicer than you are fat. You're nicer than you are skinny. You're nicer than you are shredded. Nobody says a single fucking thing. Tom Brady is the nicest quarterback that's ever existed. So nobody even talks about how he's good looking. It's not until he's like retired that people are like, damn, that motherfucker hates him. Because before that was like, that motherfucker is nice. So I think that you could make the argument that that's being used against him, but it's

He just got to make sure that he's putting everything he possibly can into being nice at comedy. And if people know you for being nice, being attractive is awesome too. But you just got to be nice. If there's a gap between how good you are and how something else you are, people always be resentful of that. From the comedy community, and I don't know if he was alluding to that maybe lightly.

Is there possible resentment on his come up? Because some people. Yes. But here's the problem. Comics are haters, but they don't realize that like Matt. So the example that we've given before is like Russell Peters. You know, Russell Peters, a comedian, Indian comedian, absolutely hilarious. He probably exposed most of the world to stand up.

And I genuinely mean that by numbers, most of the world to stand up. So that's Russell right there. Hilarious. Yeah. He exposed most of the world to stand up. Like by number, he probably shared stand up with more people than any other human in history. You have to be grateful for Russell because so many other people, myself, Akash, are eating because he exposed people.

people to stand up and those people also want other stand ups. So when I see stand ups hating on Matt, I'm like, bro, bro, bro, bro. He got all these girls who might have never listened to stand up to start listening to stand up. Now they're listening to you. The same thing like when we started putting out stand up clips, we were exposing whole other audiences on YouTube to stand up that might have never listened to it. Now they're listening to it. Don't be resentful of the success. Understand that now there's way more market share for you to tap into.

So the resentment is like short-sighted, bitter. It's hate. You're kind of smiling. Oh, no. I was laughing. Oh, but it's like. Is he cute? He is cute. He's got a handsome lawn. My point is like, you're going to eat off of this. You think he's cute? Man, I ain't going to lie. I heard that nigga talking about himself looking good. I'm like, yo, this nigga is tweaking, man. This ugly motherfucker. I don't get it. You don't like white guys?

Like white women or white girls. I don't know what metric men... Who's the hottest dude to you? Nobody, me.

But there's nobody better looking than you. You don't think anybody looks better than you? I don't look at men. Objectively speaking, you can't say another guy is good looking. A guy? You're being ridiculous right now. Yo, niggas don't look good to me. Not a single dude is handsome. Not one nigga looks good to me. We're not saying look good to you. We're saying you can see how women find him attractive. Put it that way. Put it that way. Bro, that's like saying, yo, could I put on my gay lens and figure out who is this guy? No.

Saucy Santana, not top five. That's the most crazy shit. Like, saucy look crazy. Okay, okay. Are there guys that are ugly? I think all guys are ugly. So there's not one guy that's uglier than another? So you're ugly.

No, no, I ain't ugly. I think all y'all, I'm going to be honest with you. All y'all ugly the same. You think you hot? You think you sexy? We're all ugly the same. Okay, okay, okay. I think, like, if I seen a girl and they pick between y'all, like, I would be so confused. I'm like, if they were like, oh, no, I find whoever hotter. I'd be like, like,

Like, how? But you just brought up Dave East, for example. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So do you think Dave East... We've been laughing at that motherfucker. No, no, but... No, you just can't rap like that. But, but, but, but, but, you did bring him up as someone who presented as good-looking. Yeah. And you think you're better-looking than Dave East or equal or what? No, I think he's an ugly nigga.

You don't have to do this. You don't have to do this bullshit. You don't have to. It's okay. Nobody's going to check your... I actually like Dave East. You're making me insecure about this. No one's going to check your sexuality. I think he's an ugly nigga, man. A good-looking dude. I think Chris Brown looks ugly. I think Usher looks ugly. I think Barack Obama looks ugly. I think Donald Trump looks ugly. I think all these things look ugly. All these things look ugly.

Are y'all attracted to these niggas? There's a difference between attraction and then acknowledging the symmetry in someone's face. Some people are more symmetrical than others, and they live up to- Well, you're not talking about symmetry, bro. You're talking about attractiveness. Okay, is Dave East symmetrical?

he's symmetrically ugly, bro. Who are you trying to prove? Like, you're trying so hard to prove to me. And I don't know who you're making. If you have a son one day, do you think your son would be handsome? If he looked like me. I'm the only person that looks like me.

I'm going to be honest with you. If you find anyone, if you're a man and you find any other man attractive. You have brothers. You have two brothers. Yeah. Are they? They don't really look like me. Is one of them better looking than the other? Nah, they both ugly. I'm sorry. Dad, you came for me, Dad. Nah, I look like my dad. Oh, so your dad's a good-looking ass nigga? Nah, I ain't say good-looking, but he aight, though. That's progress. That's progress. That's progress. That's progress. All right.

It was all right. It was all right. So maybe your dad could have catched it. Yo, why you got this picture with Matt Reif without his shirt, my nigga? Why does it matter? He doesn't look good to you? Yo, hold on. I see what he's talking about. He trying to tell jokes without looking at his ass. I'm just saying. I think there's a handsome man. He wouldn't tell jokes like that. Yo, he got like a BBL belly button, man. You know the BBL belly button? It look like a black hole. The stretch shit. It's not a stretch. We know the BBL belly button. It's not a stretch. What's the BBL belly button? Yo, why you looking at his belly button?

Yeah, I know. He was... Yo, son, I didn't even know he had a belly button. He was really... Hold on. Okay, is his belly button... You're saying his belly button... Nah, I'm fucking Matt Rife, though. He's a funny person. Yo, when I first saw him... Can I say one thing? You're saying his belly button is less attractive than other male belly buttons. Nah, I ain't never seen him. Get him.

No, no, no. I'm just saying. You said. Yo, one thing I'm going to say about Matt Wright. When I was first watching him, right? When I was first watching him.

He made you hungry. I remember I was just like, yo, I don't get how funny he is because I'm like, yo, I feel like he was like a dude just trying to impress girls. I'm going to be honest with you. Got it. Um, then I was just like, yo, this guy is fucking hilarious. He's quick and witty. Yeah. Yeah. And I think that's what he uploads to YouTube. And yeah, like, you know, um,

I think he's pretty good. Yeah, top tier crowd work, I think. But back to finding, or not finding- Would you fuck him? No, but here's the- But you understand, you can think a guy's good looking without fucking him. Yeah, yeah. I don't know if you think, I think you think- Okay, okay, okay. When you see male models, right?

Who's the male model? Like walking the runway or like in an ad for Gucci or an ad for Dior, when you see the models, do you think that the casting agents for those models are just pointing at any guy and putting them there? Or do you think there are certain things they're looking for? I do think that I think they're looking for probably physique, but facially and shit like that. So you're more of a body guy. Yeah.

That body. I like that. I would say they're looking for physique to see which, which, which guy the clothes fits good on.

Who the fuck is this nigga? That nigga on steroids. Do you think these guys are the same level of attractive? Like those two guys. Left and right. Same level of attractiveness? Or ugliness, I guess. Oh, ugly. Yeah, I ain't gonna lie. If my bitch fucked either one of these things, I'd be mad just the same. Well, of course you'd be mad. Oh, yeah. Wait, so you think you're better looking than Thor? No. If you had to get... If a chick picked...

Who's Thor? That's the one over there, right? Yeah, I ain't fucking with that. If a bitch picked him over me, man, I ain't with that shit, man. Acura legend. Wait, wait. Acura legend. Acura legend. You think he look good? Acura legend. Yes, he looks incredible, though. Okay, listen. There's Thor, right? Okay. And then that's Thor. Okay.

Yeah. Long hair. Oh, yeah. Short hair. It's like, eh. Then there's that, dude. This is a good... Okay, now get out of the body because the body's distracting. Just go closer to the face, right? Now, do you think this guy is in any way better looking than...

The other guy. You're just so confused right now. You're like perplexed. Y'all play like gay games, bro. I think both these ugly ass niggas is the same.

Can I give you an honest theory? No, no, no. Can I give you an honest theory? I think you're afraid that if you admit a guy is good looking, you'll fuck him. You might be a little gay. No, no, no. It's a little gay. If y'all ask, hold on. If you ask a pertinent question like who do I think is in better shape, of course I can tell you who's in better shape. Not better shape. We're not saying that. Like who do you want to get nutted on? Who do I...

If you think anyone is attractive, you gay. No, we didn't say they're attractive. Who's more? Who's more ugly? They're all ugly. Who's more ugly? They're all ugly. Who's more ugly? They're all ugly. Who's more ugly? They're all ugly. Who's more ugly?

Who's more ugly? Yo, yo, you answer the question correct, you get 100 million. Who's more ugly if you just answer it correct? By societal standards. 25 million. By societal standards. And you just got to guess it. It's not act. It's not act. It's just by societal standards. Who's more ugly between those two? Thank you for saying that. Not to say the truth. They both ugly as shit.

I knew you were fucking going to do that. I knew you were fucking going to do that. It's weird how much you're overcompensating. You think women can be better looking and uglier? You said what? You think women can be better looking than other women? Yeah, because I have an attraction to women. So like, I could tell you. You could discern. Wait, wait, wait.

Me, if I'm judging who's uglier or whatever, it's based on who I'm attracted to. So play this. I might think a girl is more attractive. You might think not because, you know, it's my attraction. Yeah. So if I'm attracted to her for whatever reason, but you're not, I think she's more pretty or whatever. Remove attraction. Remove attraction. I don't think looks are objective at all. Okay. How about this? Oh, here we go. That's interesting. So by- Do you?

Yeah. Yes. Okay, I don't. Okay, okay, that's fair, that's fair, that's fair, that's fair. Now, what you're basically making the argument is, if the closer to what your aesthetic is, the closer to what a girl that is attractive for you looks like, whoever gets closer to that, they're more attractive. Is that fair enough? Yes. So if there is a man that is closer to your style, you find him more attractive. I don't have no style of niggas.

I'm just saying. You think I got a style of niggas? You know, that's crazy. That sounds crazy. I'm just saying. That's interesting to say beauty is just not objective at all. It's completely subjective, male or female. No, 100%. That's interesting. No, no. To me, I do think. Then it worked kind of bad up to him. The last time I was on Fresh and Fit, it was actually me and Chicks, and I'm like, yo, I really think this is completely subjective. They were trying to get you over. So like this shorty, for example, is she attractive in your eye? Um.

Is she like a 8? But like she has a dick. So you think that she's 8? Can you scroll down a little? Can you show him the reveal? Can you read what that says, Ak? She was born with a dick. Can you just read what it says? What's this guy doing, though? I'm just saying she was born with a dick. She was.

Yo, can we just acknowledge that that girl is fine as fuck? That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. Can you read what it says just for the people? For who people? You read what the headline says? Chris Hemsworth fucks a bad bitch. Oh, that's a bad bitch? No, no, no. A girl born with a dick is an eight. Y'all trolling now. Y'all trolling now. Y'all trolling now. She's an eight.

With a dick. Can we acknowledge she's kind of hot, though? Here's my point. If you could acknowledge that a male looks attractive, I'm not knocking, I'm not calling you gay. To me, I could only...

visually see what would be in the realm of attractiveness to me and then judge off like for example I have a type of girl like what y'all think is a 10 I probably don't think is a 10 so who's really going to be right what you think is a 10

- BBL, Caesar, beard. - No, what's your 10? What's your 10? Tell us exactly what your 10 is. - Alex, check your mic. - It's gonna be a girl with a natural body, that's number one. If you have any fake parts, you can't be a 10 to me. Not no way, no how. - I respect that, I respect that. - Me, it might be a Latino or a mixed girl,

Just say a name. No, no, I won't describe her because I don't... Say a celebrity. I don't think none of these bitches is 10. Like, what the fuck? Just say an easy... That's like simping. I don't think none of these bitches is 10. Like, listen, we're all humans, bro. We all got flaws, bro. Like, you just sound like some mad simper. So there's no one in the world who is a 10 in your house? Fuck no. Bro, bro, bro. 10, we throw around that like the word goat. Yeah, it's so easy. Like, everybody's a 10, everybody's a goat. It's a bunch of 10s. What do you think it's 10?

Beyonce's a 10. J-Lo's a 10. Beyonce's a straight 8, my nigga. So Beyonce and this dude are the same to you? Yo. You fucking Bopty boy. I'm just saying. I was going to let anything. Look at this guy. Young Sophia.

My nigga, this picture looks like it was taken in the 70s, dog. It was. It was. She's Sofia Vergara. She's 70 years old. She's beautiful. Yo, I get to play. It's Ruby Rose like an 8 1⁄2 to me, man. Like, you know what I mean? 8 1⁄2. 8 1⁄2. 8 1⁄2. Ruby Rose.

You know Ruby Rose's? Yes. She had a nigga spend $100,000 on her. We all have the explore page on Instagram. That was Kat. I mean, well, there's Kat for that. But it's Kat. Well, that was good marketing. It's fantastic marketing. But that's fantastic surgery. I like how you gave the trans dude an eight, though. That's progress. Okay, who is the hottest? Saucy is going to be like, yo, you know what? He's the hottest. Who's the hottest? Who's the hottest?

In the entertainment realm right now. Shania. Bring it up. She's a Jamaican singer. How do you spell that? S-H-E-N. Yeah, right there. What about Shania from South Africa? It's a beautiful woman. Yeah, Tyler. What about Tyler? She's beautiful.

Nah, ain't she like 18, man? What do you mean? I don't know Diddy shit. I'm a grown man, so it's got to be at least like 21. You just gave a trainee an eight. But she was grown. I was just mentioning. I just pull over anything. Nah, but as a woman, she's probably like a year and a half old. That's true. I'm going to be honest with you. You just gave one old pussy an eight. The Tyler person, she looked too young, bro. I'm going to be honest with you.

But like, if you start liking, like play this, I don't even rate Call of Ray. If you like Call of Ray, you a pedophile. I actually like that. I used to feel that way about Ariana Grande. I feel like that about her too, real talk. Now I know you good. You now want some Diddy shit. No, because here's the thing, it's like,

If she looks underage. If she looks like a boy, man. It don't matter if she's 23, if she looks 14. Yes. I respect that. Because tell her I feel the same. I was trying to catch you and you got me. Well, how old is she? 14? 21. I don't care about nothing but that. Man, she got to eat some meat, man. So you like a little bit more thickness? No, I like people who look like adults. Adults. You feel me? Yeah.

That's a good standard. You know, white people, they be on some old type of shit. You know what I mean? It's white people that realize the age of consent in most of these states is like 16. And who invented that? White people. Now, what's the age of consent in non-white countries? Do you think it's older or younger? Nah, Jamaica's like 21, man. You can't fuck nobody up in 21, man. Let's go look at the age of consent in Jamaica. Go look at the age of consent.

The wildfire don't work. The wildfire don't work. Let's look at the age of consent in non-white countries. This ain't Australia. This ain't Australia. White people fuck the oldest bitches, bro. Nope. Nope. White people fuck the oldest bitches. 16 and you could get daggered at 16. Where's that?

The age of consent in Jamaica is 16 years old. That's Jamaica Queen's, motherfucker. That's not helping. That's not helping. That's not helping. That's not helping right now. All right, but for real, though. You don't find no guy attractive. Wait, do y'all really find men attractive? Like, also, I'm not even bullshitting. You're not sexually attractive. When I look at y'all, it's not like I'm like, oh, y'all are worth it. It's just that, like,

I can't distinguish what would be more... Yeah, but I'm not wearing my best outfit. Oh, this guy. He's trying to get... He has pretty eyes. Can you acknowledge that? Hold on. What? You're going

too hard to not be gay. You couldn't even look me in the eyes when you said that. He's got pretty eyes. He won't even look me in the eyes. He's too afraid. Yo, you curl your eyelashes. Yeah, that's crazy. You do curl your eyelashes. You mad game for that. Only girls ever tell me that. Your eyelashes are like

Your eyelashes are like this. Black stuff. Here's what I'm saying. Nah, bro, you don't kill yourself. If having this discussion, you're like, yo, could I acknowledge who's in better shape, who's taller? You might not think eyelashes. You got curly ass eyelashes, my nigga.

I ain't gonna lie, man. Y'all the only dudes who ever mentioned it, man. Y'all on some such of this. I'm gonna be honest. I used to be told my eyelashes was kind of curly, but yours is bad. Your eyelashes are crazy. They're like this. They're like swooped up. Before you come to a podcast, you take that little metal thing and you go like, yeah, you crimp them. Did you crimp your eyelashes? What?

Son, stop acting like you didn't crimp your eyelashes, bro. It's okay. It's okay. It's good. Now, he don't do it. He don't do it. Come on. I got a lot of learning from Matt Wright. Yo, look at this guy, man. But look at him. How often do you get this shit shaped up right here? Once a week. Once a week? Look at that guy, look. Look at that guy. This is the sexiest man alive, 2020. That's the sexiest guy alive? People Magazine. Would you fuck him? Nah. It's not a sexual thing for me. Would you fuck him? It's so funny. Okay.

It's not a sexual thing. It's not sexual, dude. You're just like looking at him. Okay. I don't understand the action. He just has eyes. I would really ask you, why do you think this guy's attractive? He paid for it. He paid for it. Paid for what? He paid for that slot this year.

I don't think he deserves it. Miles offended, yo. That's a good-looking guy. Back in the day, what was he? This man been acting 40 years. He's like 60. You wouldn't know. He's McDreamy. Back in the day, like 10 years ago. But he don't got it. What about Bedford? What's his name? Tyson Bedford. Tyson Beckford. Beckford. Yeah, he's some old-ass nigga. I always thought the niggas was gay. What?

- But being gay or being straight doesn't change whether you're-- - Of course, if you're gay, you're eliminated more than 10 times. - You're eliminated from what?

Being hot? Hot. When we talk about if somebody look attractive, we talk about could you get... Listen, please. The way our men talk... Click the face. The way our men talk... Play this. This is a compliment. This is how black men give compliments. Like, yo, that nigga get bitches. So if you not get bitches... You think he gets bitches right there? I think he get niggas. I ain't gonna hold you. But when you look at his face... Who you think get bitches? Huh? Who you think gets bitches? Not Saucy Santana.

No, but who do you think gets bitches? Shit.

You cute, though. I'm married. Pause. I'm married. That's not flirting. You said it. You're the one that said it. No, that's not flirting. It's just like, it's not. Actually, no, actually, I think you got bitches too. Why do you think I get bitches? Why do you think I get bitches? Nah, he didn't say you. He didn't say you. No, I didn't say you. No, no. Awful accomplishments, man. Oh, so you're saying that's my success. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what's got me bitches. Don't do that to me. He said it. He said my looks. Don't tell him he got a great personality. He said my looks and your accomplishments. It's all good. But hold on. Right there. Tyson. Nah, Tyson, though. Tyson Beckford.

That's a handsome upset. You don't think that that's a handsome guy? Nah, he said he gets his dicks. Nah, man. Probably one of them niggas in the free cloth, man. You know? But you don't think Diddy only selects the best looking dudes for the free cloth? Diddy said he was selected the biggest dicks. That's crazy. There's been rumors about him. You know, the whole time I'm hearing Diddy was selected the biggest dicks, I never got a call. What?

Never got a call. So maybe it's wrong. Maybe it's just a rumor. Another Diddy question. Sorry. We need to talk about this. Because we've been trying to figure out. You said everybody's afraid to talk about Diddy. Explain the history of 50 and Diddy and why 50 is not afraid to say that shit. Yo, 50 the GOAT, bro. He's incredible. 50 is the GOAT. We got to realize 50 is a little bit different because I think 50 really don't give a fuck. Nobody gives a fuck.

Less than 50. No. Well, I'm going to be honest with you. I think Diddy fucked up when he dated 50's babe moms. So there's a long history. It goes back to 50 trying to sign Mase. There was some contract stuff. There's some music stuff that's really in between 50 and Diddy. A lot of bad blood, but not really. It's one of those like you're in an industry with somebody you don't like, so you got to kind of play, do the song and dance. Don't really fuck with him, but it is what it is.

And then I believe it got to the point where Diddy dates his baby mama. It's over after that. I've always said, listen, let me tell you this. Put it like this. Like, I don't even know who your girl is, right? Or let's say ex-girl, right? Or both y'all ex-girl, right?

If that girl told me, oh, you're a United States marketer, I'm good. Because to me, we're beefing after that. I always say you got to leave people's girls, ex-girls alone. People go to war over that. And I think that's what 50 is doing, man. Oh, so you think that this was from the past? It's not him trying to— No, of course. I think 50 has been waiting for this moment for like—

10 to 15 years. I don't know where it went wrong because they did a collab. There was a song where it was Puffy, Diddy, and Jay-Z. That whole Billionaire's 1, 2, 3. 50's not a liar, though. He's a truthful dude. He said y'all was cool and everything was good. And the motherfucker asked me to go shopping. You don't ask a man to go shopping. You know what I mean?

You ever ask Mark, like, you want to take him shopping? I would like that. He and I shop together for sure. No, no, but did you take him shopping? Not shop together. Take him shopping. What do you mean? Like, I buy him an outfit? No, no, you'll be like, yo. I couldn't afford to. Like, shopping is on me. We're going out. That's a little weird.

Not really. Because if he dressed like Ak, I'd be like, yo, Ak, I'll take you shopping. Just because I want to help you try to level up your shop game. Wow. That was flirting, bro. You see? That was flirting right there, yo. That was flirting when you were sexual. I was flirting crazy right now. I respect Saucy a little bit more. He said he was going to knock me out. He said he was going to take me shopping before he talked to me. He's trying to seduce you. Yeah, that's seduction. He's trying to seduce you, bro. At least Saucy was like, I'm going to knock you out before you do it. You don't remember it. That's right. That's right. You don't fuck with me.

That's where it's a problem.

That's where it's a problem. Or you and I be like, yo, hey, does it fit? And be like, uh, now come on out here. Now you gay. You gay. You gay. Come on now.

That's what you're going to do? That's not what I'm going to do. I'm just trying to elevate your chess game. Can you tell if a dog is better looking than another dog? A dog? Yeah, can you be like this? Like an animal. Yeah, can you be like, yo, this pit bull is better looking. Yo, what type of bitchy alley shit you on? Nigga, you open that realm up. Not for sex, just in general. He literally cannot understand.

Objectiveness, like attractiveness being objective. So like when you buy a dog, are you like, oh, that dog is better looking than that dog? Cuter. You don't think dogs are different cuteness? Nah, it's a dog. A dude with no teeth, hillbilly, just meth head, is you think equal attractiveness to Tom Brady?

I think both of them motherfuckers is ugly. And you think if I see a dog and I'm like, oh my God, that dog is so cute. Now I understand why he was crying, bro. Now I understand the tears, bro. I'm like genuinely confused. Like, for example, I got a Rottweiler. Yeah. Like, this never crossed my mind. Like, hey, another dog is like...

Bro, you fuck dogs? No, no, no. See, you never thought a dog is cute. You never been like, oh my God, a dog is so cute. No, no, I've thought dogs are adorable, but I've never been like, I've never compared cuteness. Okay, what man is more adorable than another man? That nigga's not adorable to me.

Wait, y'all think men are adorable? No, but they... Yo, yo, you're fucking gay. This guy's fucking gay. Yo, Al, you're not inviting men adorable? You're walking up to Mango Gucci, Gucci, Gucci, Gucci. Let me ask you a question. So if someone asks you a question...

Who's more attractive, me or him? You can have an answer. Yeah, it's Mark. It's not even close. Yeah, Mark is more attractive. What are you talking about? Thank you. That was good. That was good. That was actually hurtful. He didn't have to say that part. He didn't have to say the other part. I was saying like. He didn't have to say the last part. That was. Round top, round top, round top. Yo. Yo.

Yo, my boy said that like he had a boner. Nah, that's crazy. Did you have a boner? Yo, that dude said like he had a boner. No, but the finish was great. He is way more attractive. No boner? No boner. Way more. Like way more.

Every girl will come up to him before they come up to you. Every girl. Every girl will come up to him. Yo, yo. It's the most. White girl. White girl. They all want to see you.

walking up to him before they walk up to you every single day every single everybody there's no boner

work off your bonus. My boy popped a honey bag or some shit. A rhino. He popped. He popped, bro. He's still trying. The craziest thing is this is the most animated we've seen in a long time. He looks good. The blood.

Yo, he's fired! If you ask me, if you ask me, anybody, any girl and me would fuck him first because it's such a definitive ass question. It's the most clear-cut question ever. You know what I'm getting for? Craziest part? I'm gonna say

The craziest part is like Marcus sizing them up like, does he even know I don't even fuck with black dudes? That is true. I don't even fuck with black dudes. I know he don't. I shut that down. I did shut that down earlier. No. We love you. We appreciate you. This is crazy. This is DJ academic. This is sexual tension, man. We gonna go fuck.

On the Patreon version, they're going to be figuring it out. You parted the prequel of After Dark. Oh, hell nah. You parted the prequel. You parted the prequel. Have you read it?