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You know, it gets weird. Home for 10 minutes and then we're already back out. I am looking forward to Casper, Wyoming, though. I am very much looking forward to Casper. We will be there this Friday and Saturday. Yeah, we were just talking about before we started the show, but both me and you have pretty crazy schedules coming up. I'm basically through November.
I'm just a ton of traveling, a ton of podcasts, a ton of standup shows. Um, and then I, I get a nice little break, uh, in December, but, uh, yeah, it's, it's really crazy, man. Um, because obviously we like, we do standup comedy. So we have a lot of standup comedy gigs, uh, booked. And then of course, with, with this show and the stuff we do on politics, it's like, we are really in, uh,
The season. I mean, it's only a few weeks away. It's September 3rd as we're recording this today. I was reading earlier today that early voting starts this week.
like there are people who will be i don't know who it is like military people maybe get to like cast their ballots first or whatever um like absentee ballot type corpses take a while to make their decisions the dead people well they're going to be voting for months they got they got a lot of time um but it is it's strange because for the last say 15 years in america um presidential campaigns have been going longer and longer
They start earlier. There just is a longer election period where they're campaigning. And then, of course, this year in like the most –
I mean, I don't know. I mean, I guess the last two were so it's almost like you hit like this, this critical mass where you're like, I don't know if the stakes can be raised on this anymore. I don't know if everyone can dial it up more, but if they can, they have, I mean, this election has been just insane. And yet the result of it is like the shortest election that really we, we just found out a few weeks ago that the democratic nominee was going to be Kamala Harris. We really only found out for 100% certainty two weeks ago that,
And yet here we are. You know, it's like on our last episode, we were sitting here talking all about how Kamala Harris finally gave her first interview. And then you sit here and you're like, oh, and we're only a few weeks out from the election. And it does seem to me, if you just kind of zoom out and try to have, you know, like just some analysis of where we are right now, I'd say it seems
It seems like there is no good outcome for the country. And I don't mean like, I'm not trying to be like black belt or anything like that. I'm not saying like the long run is we're all screwed. I don't, I don't believe that I'm, I'm not a pessimist. But in terms of just this election, you've just, I think you've got a situation where if Kamala Harris wins the election,
or perhaps I should say, if it is announced that Kamala Harris won the election, I don't know about you, Rob, but the percentage of Trump supporters that are going to believe this was a legitimate election are single digits, I'd say. I mean, I literally think it's going to be the overwhelming majority of Trump supporters will believe this election is stolen if Kamala Harris wins it. And
It's kind of hard to blame them from my perspective, kind of hard to blame them for feeling that way, because it's like there's that. Do you remember that the Time magazine article about the 2020 race? I forget the title of it, but it was about how they basically stole it and playing and they rigged the thing in plain sight. Yeah.
Especially now, there were reasons in the year 2020. And let me say this, OK, completely aside from any allegations of actually stealing the election.
Like completely outside of any accusations against voting machines or or ballot harvesting or like any of the you know, there were some videos that were pretty sketchy that came out from the 2020 election where like they're covering the windows and stuff like that. But all of that stuff aside.
What you had throughout the year of 2020 was the entire U.S. economy was shut down. A lot more than that, obviously, much of the global economy. But you really had like the United States of America, the economy was shut down, something totally unprecedented. Yeah.
And this happens in a reelection year. It is obviously there were a lot of Republican governors who did this as well, but it certainly was at least –
uh, cast as more of the democratic governors really pushing it with New York and Los Angeles. And these kind of being the, like the centers of, uh, of democratic voting bases. And this is where they were the most outspoken, um, on the side of shutting the whole economy down. You then had, um, the biggest, most sustained riots of my lifetime, um, in terms of like
They swept major cities across the country, billions of dollars in property damage. Dozens of people were murdered and hundreds, if not thousands, of pretty vicious assaults. And this is cheered on by the Democratic establishment and the corporate media. You have throughout the whole year, you have this mass censorship campaign where anybody who is critical of democracy,
the lockdowns and the riots, they are at risk of being censored. You then had the, what is just objectively, and everyone admits it at this point, the Hunter Biden laptop story in October, which is,
suppressed in a way that no story has ever been suppressed before, where you have the New York Post, one of the top 10 biggest newspapers in the country, their Twitter account is suspended. The link is unshareable. Of course, at this point, Zuckerberg now has admitted that they censored the story on Facebook and admitted that it was based off FBI lies. The FBI came and told them it was Russian misinformation when it wasn't.
Just given all that, and I could go into more detail about that. I mean, you also can't leave out the fact that for the previous four years, their president had been framed for treason, which came out as a big lie. And then this idea that Donald Trump was some Russian agent was also ridiculous to begin with. But anyway, you give you take all of that and then your guy loses the election, even if you don't.
You know, even if it's not true that they flipped votes, you know, I liked Glenn Greenwald's Glenn Greenwald's framing of it, where he said basically, yeah, they didn't steal it, but they rigged it. You could understand why anyone if you were if you were a Trump supporter, you'd leave that feeling like, yeah, they robbed us. They did not give us a fair shot. OK, well, take that and multiply it by one hundred.
I mean, that's how they're going to feel about this election. And you can't really blame them. I mean, like, as I've mentioned many times on the show before, I'm completely agnostic about election legitimacy. Like, I don't know. I don't really trust what governments tell me. I don't know. They're able to pull off a lot of lies. Maybe they could pull this one off, too. But, you know, going into this year, there's just no way that any—
I don't even say forget even Trump supporters. I think I don't see how any honest observer would look at this if Donald Trump loses and not go like, yeah, I mean, obviously they rigged the whole thing against him. All right, guys, let's take a moment and thank our sponsor for today's show, which is Interra.
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No, but I mean, if you just think about like this time going into it, it's like, OK, they weaponized the justice system against him, charged him up and down with all types of crimes. They intentionally did it for them to all fall on the campaign year. Right. Like as we've we've talked about before, like even if you think Donald Trump was guilty of some crime related to October or excuse me, I do this a lot related to January 6th.
All those other guys got charged for those crimes in 2021. Why is Donald Trump getting charged in 2024? Why did it happen to be that his Stormy Daniels hush money trial happened in 2024? The election interference thing happens in 2024. The defamation suit happens in 2024. All of these things came down automatically.
very clearly, intentionally on the year he was campaigning for president to drain his time and resources and divert them somewhere else. And also to give the talking point, you know, that is used by every single democratic politician, surrogate, campaign advisor, every Democrat is going to say over and over again, he's a convicted felon, blah, blah, blah, right? So you have that.
You then have, I don't know, trying to put this, I'm trying to put this in the most plain but undeniable way. You then have the Secret Service allowing a guy with a rifle to get less than 150 yards against Donald Trump and get a clean shot off, at least one clean shot off at his head. You then have a straight up coup.
Donald Trump's about to win, clearly. And so rather than accept, well, it looks like Donald Trump's just going to win. And, you know, we had a primary and the president of the United States says he's not dropping out. Instead of just letting that election happen, then.
They literally could the sitting president of the United States out of I mean, I don't know, maybe coup is not exactly the technical term because it's like he's still the president. They didn't exactly overthrow him, but they forced him out of his reelection, which is pretty clearly how it went down. And then on top of that, we've almost certainly got one or two more crazy things that are going to happen between now and then. So when this happens, nobody's going to accept it.
On the Trump side. And I mean, if Donald Trump is able to pull this off and he's able to win, well, we've already had a taste of how much the left half of America is going to lose their freaking minds about that. And I don't know about you, Rob, but I have not seen any indication that they're going to handle it better this time.
I think it's going to be pretty rough. By the way, it should also get pointed out that the entire Democratic establishment and voting base...
Did not accept the election results of 2016. And they carried on for years claiming that it was Vladimir Putin who had overthrown our democracy and installed Donald Trump. The most it is funny. Look, you can make the argument, by the way, that it's which many people do. But you can make the argument that it's not exactly the same thing.
um and fair enough it's not exactly one of the things that uh democrats love to point out is that hillary clinton did concede that she had lost but but donald trump didn't concede now hillary clinton did not give a concession speech that night which is typical she reportedly got drunk and furious and was breaking glasses in her hotel room but the next morning she did come out and give a concession speech
Now, you can argue that these things are different. You can argue that January 6th was whatever, an attempt to stop the certification of the voter. Look, all those arguments aside, I'm just saying, number one, that Democratic voters in their heart did not accept that the election was legitimate. And number two, the claim from Trump supporters that this whole thing was stolen from Donald Trump is –
100,000 times more reasonable and plausible than the claim in 2016 that Vladimir Putin had overthrown our democracy, which was just...
straight up invented like there's just not even a shred of truth to it there's not i mean not only was it there's not a shred of truth the the it's not even like overthrown our democracy they they found like a few hundred dollars in bots that were purchased by a guy who once had dinner with vladimir putin that's like the closest they have to it so that anyway my point is just that the
In the in the middle of this kind of white hot culture war that there is no resolution to that that's possible through the results of this election. So that's one thing we know for sure. We're still going to be right there. I had no idea Hillary Clinton was that rock and roll.
That would have me on board. How did I never hear that story? She trashed a hotel room? I'll have to find the source on this. It's 100% this was written. I don't know with 100% certainty that it's true, but yeah, this was evidently a few people on the campaign. I want to say it's Bob Woodward, but I'm starting to think it may not be him. I'd have to double check who the source on that is, or one of the listeners will do it before I can. But yeah, that was the...
the allegation. She was drunk and furious up there with bill, bill just sitting in the corner. Like, I hate when she gets like this. I have a little bit of a suspicion that the Democrats might take it a little bit more gracefully this time. If Trump wins. And the reason I think that is because we saw the way that they had to kind of adjust when it became reality of the fact that Joe Biden had dementia and they finally kind of settled into the loss of that.
I wonder if with Donald Trump winning a second time, they finally go like the last time they bogged him down and they said, hey, he's a Russian asset and they didn't allow him to do any of his agenda. And that worked really well. And then, you know, the second we've heard all the anti Donald Trump storylines. I just wonder, I guess sometimes.
I can't even see how they spin it or lie about it. I mean, how do you claim he's just representing the racist? Do you still get to play that card? Like, I almost can't see what their storyline is other than to go, all right, he won. Let's see what he's actually going to do.
Yeah, well, it does seem to me that, and we've talked about this a bit, I've talked about this a bit on other shows, but it does seem like Donald Trump, like this isn't the 2016 Donald Trump. And, you know, I got to say, we'll get into a little bit of this later, but I think he's running a terrible campaign at this point. I mean, it's just like, it's just really not...
It doesn't have any of the magic of the 2016.
A lot of the vaccine was great, and you guys should be thankful to me for it. There's not enough gusto on the important stuff. Well, that's right. And it's always, as I've been saying now for months, it's always at the, or not always, but at least at these very key moments, he's casting himself as the defender of the establishment.
It's just like, oh, man, like, has no one told you that the whole appeal of you was that you're not that? No, look, man, I mean, as you bring it up, the J.D. Vance pick at this point is just looking like, I guess the best thing you can say for him is that, oh, Trump was thinking of picking Marco Rubio and ultimately was persuaded to pick this guy. It's like, okay, he's better than Marco Rubio. I got to say, yeah,
You know, like, obviously, I've made my feelings on this very clear that my hope was he would pick Vivek Ramaswamy. Now, you could kind of say that, well, maybe Vivek would be better if he was put in a position with some actual teeth in it. OK, but, you know, he hasn't been elected yet.
And from what I'm seeing, I'm just like, I don't know. Vivek was just so much better than JD Vance. And it's not just that he's like closer on some issues that I agree with him on. I mean, obviously that's part of it. And I'm sure that influences my thinking to some degree, but I just mean that like,
like the vague is able to like it when if the vapes in an interview he can like he like kills it he very consistently like he'll be asked the thing you're like yo he just like was excellent like he really like had a great compelling answer for every question that was asked to him i just haven't seen anything like that at a jd bounce um and then donald trump will just almost as if he is uh
At certain points, it seems like he's either attempting to lose or he's attempting to kind of be like, you know, like when a golden retriever like lays down and shows you his belly.
Just to make sure you're like, no, you're the dominant one here. I know I'm not a threat. I'm like, it's like almost like that's what he's trying to do. I mean, like that's when Elon Musk was asking him about his thoughts on the Secret Service. That's what it felt like to me. Like he was just going like, guys, please do not blow my brains out. I have nothing but good things to say to you about you.
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It was a couple days ago. It was kind of overshadowed by the fact that Kamala Harris did her first and only interview. Of course, Donald Trump did a much longer interview. But this clip was just wild to me. Let's play that. It'll be gone. Israel is under tremendous pressure right now. It's amazing. If you go back 15 years or even less, the strongest lobby in that sense is
in the United States was Israel. You couldn't say a thing about Israel, Christian or Jew. You couldn't say anything about today. It's like under siege. You look at AOC plus three, you look at these people, the way they talk about it. And then you see Schumer, who's become a Palestinian, as far as I'm concerned. I mean, he's actually become like a Hamas agent. Schumer, how did that happen? Let me ask you about that.
You see, let's pause it for a second. I'll come back to it because there's already so much there. We'll come back to the video in a second. But just to break this down, I mean, it's like every time and I don't know, by the way, if anyone else can relate to this struggle. Right. But throughout this whole campaign, as everybody knows who watches the show, I've been a sharp critic of Donald Trump since Trump burst onto the political scene there.
I mean, there's just so much to say. But every time I almost get pushed during this election, like, there'll just be one thing after another. It's like, okay, like, you know, Joe Biden at first is running, and it's like, Joe Biden just deserves to lose so much. And I, goddamn, I hate Joe Biden so much. I mean, I hate Joe Biden for things he did in the 80s still to this day. But as a president, I mean, just like the...
The COVID vaccine, pushing that on everybody, all based on lies, when no young, healthy person ever needed to take the damn thing. Just insane. His...
His responsibility for the catastrophe in Ukraine is he probably is the single most responsible person for that between his time as vice president and his time as president is just hundreds of thousands of people dead when there was like a million off ramps. And he intentionally refused to get off at any point, provoking the thing the whole way.
And then weaponizing the justice system against Donald Trump. It's just they really did violate an American political norm in the most egregious way. So you're like, he just deserves to lose. He deserves to lose so much.
And then like the libertarian nominee just like stinks. So it's like, yeah, there's no like other real third party that I'm considering voting for. And you just get to a point where you're like, oh, all right. Maybe I got to just support Donald Trump. Like maybe I should just be like, yeah, it is like, you know what?
All the goddamn Trump supporters want me to do it. And, you know, I do kind of feel I am kind of rooting for him in a way. And I really do think the Democrats need to lose. But every time, every time, like clockwork, when I even think about maybe I should just throw my support behind Donald Trump, he'll come out and remind me why I shouldn't.
There's one thing I can always count on Donald Trump for. Because like this, you know, I remember I used to say back in like 2016. So maybe it was early 2017. But this is like when the allegations of Donald Trump being a Russian agent first started like to be popularized. I remember saying there's so many things you can say about this guy.
You know, like there's so many legitimate criticisms of Donald Trump. And yet you guys have picked the most absurd, ridiculous, clearly untrue thing to criticize him for. You remember? Remember how stupid that was? The idea that anyone was supposed to believe that Donald Trump, of all people, the guy who's been famous forever, the guy who my entire life has been a famous person.
mogul that this guy was a Russian agent all along. It's just made no sense whatsoever. It was obviously all a big lie. And you remember how fucking stupid it is that anyone fell for that? Yeah. Okay. What could be stupider than that? I don't know. Maybe that Chuck Schumer is a Palestinian. Maybe that's actually dumber. The idea that Chuck Schumer is an agent of Hamas, like how fucking retarded is
How could that ever ring true with anyone except for like your dumbest Fox News watching uncle? Like the dumbest one would actually look at that on Mark Levine and say, yeah, they just broke that down. These Muslims infiltrated and took over the Jewish senator, lifelong Zionist Chuck Schumer. Go look at any aid to Israel bill ever and look how Chuck Schumer has voted.
Okay? Is that not enough? Is funding and arming Israel not enough to make you not a member of Hamas? It's just so stupid. And then for him to be sitting here, is Donald Trump... Like, how can you even...
Like, I don't know what to say, dude. If you were trying to throw the election or you were just trying to instill that I couldn't possibly support you, you're trying to ensure that I, no matter how much I wanted to, I could not come over and support Donald Trump. Is there anything you could say better than, you know, you used to not be allowed to criticize Israel. We used to ruin everybody's life who would do that. And then now we're just letting people do it.
You know, this lobby representing a foreign government used to ruin the life of American citizens who would dare criticize this foreign government, who's on American welfare, by the way. But we've got this system locked up where you're not even allowed to express that you disagree with that government or we will ruin you. But they don't do it like that anymore. We got to go back to those good old days when you weren't allowed to criticize a foreign government.
I mean, what the, like, what a, not only is it like politically stupid, it's such an evil thing.
un-American position to have. It is totally, I mean, just like obviously on its face, 100% incompatible with the idea of being America first, with the idea of being anti-war, with the idea of being pro-free speech. All of those are completely at odds with saying we had a powerful lobby that would squash all dissent against a foreign government.
Think about how insane that is. So there's Donald Trump's position. Deep state censorship used to be much better on the Israel thing. No one said a word.
It's such a why, because even if you were pro-Israel, this is the worst way to pitch it. Look at how much the culture has changed that you can even get away with criticizing it. The machine used to be so much better and have so much more control over people's lives on this topic. So, I mean, now you're pitching the left authoritarianism of, hey, I got to get back in there to make sure that we've got full control over topics like this because no one should be criticizing it.
And, you know, it's also just that Trump is so fucking stupid that he actually doesn't know. This has always been the major problem with Donald Trump. And it's so funny because everybody projects their thing onto Donald Trump. Everybody's got like he's such a fascinating figure because he's just fascinating.
First of all, he's so unique. He's so different than any other human being you've ever known. He doesn't look or dress or talk or do his hair like any other human being or do his bronzer. Like everything's just different.
But then he has this like effect where like the left wingers project this like Hitlerian figure onto him, which is just like the Russian agent stuff. It's all stupid. It's totally it's totally untethered from reality. It's just something that they've like made up in their heads or been instructed to make up in their heads.
And then the Trump supporters do the opposite. I mean, they cast him. He's the champion of the working people. And everything he did wrong is because someone duped him or tricked him. But none of that's real. And Donald Trump, what he is, is really just what you see in front of you. That's actually the depth of it. And that's it. And his major problem is now what it has always been, which is that he doesn't know anything.
I mean, literally knows nothing. The guy has never read a book about any topic, like not one. There's not a conflict that he's ever talked about. There's not a policy that he's ever talked about where he has read one book on that subject. So he just knows nothing. And you're counting on that guy to be the guy for the tiny little task of draining the swamp.
He has the small task of rolling back the most entrenched, powerful corruption in the history of the world. But he doesn't know anything about anything. So like even with Donald Trump's talking about this, what Donald Trump knows, right, is that, oh, people are criticizing Israel a lot more than they ever used to.
That's what he knows. What he knows is what he's watched on Sean Hannity show. Like people are talking shit about Israel. They sure didn't. And so he concludes from that that AIPAC used to be a lot more powerful because he knows there's a big, powerful Israel lobby and he knows now people are criticizing Israel. So he's like, oh, AIPAC used to be a lot more powerful.
but that's not what's going on at all aipac is more powerful today than it's ever been go measure they spend more money on campaigns than they've ever spent before they they have more power than they had what has happened right because all you got to do is think about it like this has the that dynamic that uh trump's talking about which is true that a lot more people are criticizing israel these days than ever before well is that true in the corporate media
Is it true that there's been a drastic change at the New York Times or at CNN about the way they cover Israel? No. They're doing exactly the same thing they always did. What's changed? Oh, yeah, there's this whole Internet thing now. You don't have a monopoly on information anymore. Where you're getting the truth about Israel is largely from the Internet.
That's where you're going to get these things. I mean, look, it's even like, and I'm not even talking about like me or some of the other like people who are like critics of Israel, but I'm saying like John Mearsheimer, you know, if you want to read his books, you know, or go watch his lectures, you find them on the internet. You don't, you don't find them on MSNBC. It's not like they're not inviting him on to break down all of these things. And so,
That's the difference. But if you think about this, Donald Trump, this is how fucking retarded he is, is that it's like, so what are you saying here, Trump? You're on the side of we should go back to the model where there was a monopoly on the flow of information, where the corporate media and the Israel lobby could work together to stomp out all critics of Israel? Because that old model is the same one that would keep you out.
Like you tweeted your way to the presidency. The entire corporate media hates your guts. It's part of the reason why most left-wingers think you're freaking Adolf Hitler is because the corporate media told them so. So now you've positioned yourself again, just like these other issues, you've positioned yourself as the defender of the old order, the defender of the establishment. Well, if anyone wants the old order, if anyone wants the establishment, you know what they don't want? Donald fucking Trump.
All those people hate your guts. So on top of this just being horrible, like I don't know what else to say. It is a genuinely awful, evil thing for a leader on the most profound level to say that my people ought to be subjugated, like that my people used to not be allowed to speak their minds freely about a foreign government issue.
And I want to go back to those days, which like, okay, he didn't explicitly say that, but it was pretty clearly implied, right? He was pretty clearly saying it's a bad thing that we've come to this point where we can criticize Israel now. And I guess that makes you like a Hamas. It's like, okay, so why is it? Why is it that so many people are criticizing Israel today? Is it because AIPAC has been weakened? No, no, dummy. It's because...
of what Israel is doing. It's because people can go on social media, people can listen to shows on the internet, and they can hear the other side of the argument. And then, oh, by the way, on that same app on their phone, where they can hear the other side of the argument, they can also watch the videos of babies being suffocated to death by the thousands, tens of thousands, probably. Maybe that has something to do with it.
And then it's like, you're going to, you know, you're going to criticize AOC and the squad and these people. It's like, on the one issue that they're good on, on the one issue that they've kind of got right, that this war is horrifically immoral and we ought not be funding it. God, it's just awful. Whole thing is just so freaking stupid.
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Tremendous. In our streets. Yep. That wasn't happening when you were president, but... It didn't happen when I was president. But you signed an executive order extending the Civil Rights Act to cover Jewish students and their free speech, which Jewish students are using now to defend themselves in these Ivy League colleges. You see what's going on in the streets. Do you think this administration, you know, they give a speech here and there. Do you think they've done enough?
to fight this because colleges are opening now and they're saying it's going to happen again and it's going to get worse and people are running for their lives and they're hiding and so forth. When you see that, what do you think? Well, it's getting worse. I just see Cornell is a hotbed right now. Today, all of what's happening up there. So right now, it's a little bit early, but as colleges are starting to open, Cornell was the occasion. It looks like it's worse than ever. And
They don't respect this administration. It's very simple. You know, the power that you have with all of the endowments and everything else, the big tax breaks that they get, you have tremendous powers. But the heads of these schools seem like either they're weak and pathetic or they're sort of Marxists themselves, fascists, Marxists. One of the people, one of the professors was on from Cornell today, and he was talking about how the head people at the school are almost encouraging the students to...
destroy the place. It was actually an amazing statement. You think, you know, I could see them cowering in a corner, but I can't see that they're actually helping it. And it's shocking when you look at Columbia from last year, but it looks like it's going to get very bad, actually. It looks like it's going to get very bad. It's a little bit early yet. The season's just beginning.
Schools are starting to open up. Most of them haven't opened yet. But the ones that have, it's nasty. It's nasty. And the government does nothing about it. Would you consider federal funds that go into these schools? Yeah. You have tremendous power over those schools. It seems to me we blackmail institutions all the time with federal funds. The Democrats do too, but not here.
they just seem to have wide berth to go for it well also speech i mean you're not allowed to if if you're jewish and talking about a positive jewish event or whoever you may be or if you're conservative even you can't they won't let you speak so i wrote out an order very strong order and everybody okay we pause there um i just you know i i know i've talked about this before that's we're done with this uh with this video but it's like
look obviously there's a huge problem with universities in america today um but of all the things to start going down this path you just completely lose me i'm going so so that's that's where the the republican ticket is is that we should get the government more involved in the speech
at universities that what we should blackmail them with federal funds. And, you know, I got to say, I made this point back on a, on Candace Owens show the first time I was on, I think it was the first time I was on where it's, you know, there is something and, you know, me and you are both Jews. So, you know, I'm saying even from my perspective, where you go, Jews are like,
2% of the population. The vast majority of them are liberal. You know, there's not like, there's not that many Jews that are voting for Donald Trump. I just mean in raw numbers, in terms of like your base is it's a very small percentage of your base. That's Jewish. Obviously he has some, there's some Orthodox Jews who are conservative. There's some Zionist Jews who like the type of stuff that he's saying here. But,
These college campuses have been, let's just say, pretty hostile toward straight white men for quite a while. And that never, even though that is your base, that never warranted any serious conversation about threatening them with federal funds. And yet what? Because there are protests occurring.
against an ongoing mass slaughter campaign in Gaza, that's when we have to step in and threaten them? And isn't it like, Rob, like we've been saying from the very beginning of this conflict, way before the beginning of this conflict, but it is amazing how all of these, like,
Republican conservative leaders, thought leaders and all the way up to Donald Trump, the most influential leader of the modern conservative movement or whatever it is, all of them can just rail against the woke left.
I mean, man, have all of these guys just made so much money, gotten so many clicks, increased their own profile by railing against the woke left until Israel's brought up and then they are identical to the woke left. Identical.
Oh my God, there's been racism on college campuses and therefore the government needs to step in and take action. Think about the poor Jewish students, like the poor Jewish students. And what are we talking about here? We're not talking about criminal activity here.
Because we already have a pretty easy remedy for that. We're not saying like, oh, if a Jewish student was assaulted or something like that, it's like, okay, so call the cops then. Yeah, that should be a crime. And oh, luckily, it already is. We're talking about what? We're talking about Jewish students being uncomfortable? Like being uncomfortable that someone's protesting what the Israeli government is doing with our money and weapons? God.
Okay, since when are people who aren't woke leftists supposed to give a shit about college kids' feelings? Yeah, okay, maybe that makes you a little bit uncomfortable. You know who's really uncomfortable right now? The people of Gaza. They're really uncomfortable. And I'm just slightly more concerned about their feelings.
than I am about these. You know, I was doing, I did one of the debates on Israel, because I've done so many at this point, but I debated this guy, Mark Pellegrino, who was just, he did a very bad job, but it is what it is. He said at one point, and I always find this funny, it always comes up when it's the war in Israel and Gaza. At one point, he said to me, he goes, think about the PTSD issue
that the IDF soldiers are going to have as a result of this war. And he was like, do you know what that does to you when you're like dropping bombs on all these civilians? They actually invoked that. Like he actually went to think about dad shit. I'd be like, yo, like I couldn't believe it. And I was like, well, yeah, I mean like, but it's not even, by the way, it's not even that he's, he's technically wrong. I mean, yeah, he probably is right.
I mean, I don't know, but I know we had a whole epidemic of PTSD after the war in Iraq and Afghanistan. So like, yeah, I'm sure it might be real hard for some of those soldiers to come back home and live the rest of their lives knowing what they've done. But like, that's your first thought. That's your first like you got like a guy murdering a bunch of babies. And then you go like, yeah, but think about how hard that's going to be on his conscience.
That's like that's going to be real tough to live with being a baby killer for the rest of your life. But it is something like that where it's like, look, man, I look, it kind of sucks. I'm sure if you're a Jewish student and people are protesting Israel and maybe the atmosphere is a little hostile toward Jews. I'm not saying none of that exists. I'm just saying, like, it's been what are we on? Eleven months. Right. Right.
It's September. This war started last October. We're going on 11 months. I guess next week will be 11 months of this war. For 11 months, Gaza has just been decimated. And yet...
My sympathy, if I think about this conflict, is supposed to first and foremost not be on the clear victims of the conflict, but rather to be for the college students who are made to feel uncomfortable because someone else is protesting it.
Like all these guys, Trump and Levine and Ben Shapiro and like all of these guys, Jordan Peterson, all of them. If there was if somebody were making an argument that made the black community.
uh, college kids or the gay college kids or the lesbian college kids or the transgender college kids, if someone was, was making an argument that made them feel uncomfortable, and then you were to say, they shouldn't be allowed to say that because this makes this group of people feel uncomfortable. They would be the first to lay off in your face, call you a little snowflake and be like, that's not how real life works, sweetheart.
Sorry, this is higher education. And if you can't handle some ideas, then you go cry in your safe space. But we're all going to have this conversation, except when it comes to Israel. When it comes to Israel, that is the great exception where now we get to embrace all of the woke, all of the woke standards. It's just something. There's two things that come to mind while watching this is one, they feel like two tired old men.
And while the topic matters, interesting, because they're talking about going fully authoritarian and clamping down on free speech and taking away funding from colleges to try and force their opinion on colleges. So that that becomes interesting. You're like, but I'm just saying the actual listening to them is you have to actually really listen. Oh, wait, that sounds really terrible. The two of them themselves are kind of old and boring. And it's interesting, you know.
I'm not saying it's good for the country. Politics probably should be boring, but that certainly isn't how Donald Trump won the last time is by being this absolutely just neutered and tempered in an interview. No, and that's part of the reason why they hated him. It's part of the reason why they hated him so much is that he excited people. They don't like that. They don't like people getting excited.
The other thing is, you know, it's easy, particularly because we live in areas where we're around more liberals and usually the liberals have the upper hand. And so we're feeling them kind of press on us, such as removing free speech from the Internet, forcing us to take vaccines, stupid woke policies in your school. Like it just usually more often than not, we see liberals have the upper hand. And so it's easy to look at the conservatives as almost the underdog and go, oh, look, they're just talking about restoring freedom. Oh, look,
They're talking about a value I care about, which is freedom of speech. But then you see the real conservatives, which is the second they get the upper hand, they'll force you on a war. They'll take away your free speech in criticizing war. They might get enough of the upper hand where all of a sudden they start talking about – you get your church ladies back out there going, hey, I don't like this filth on the internet. But the second you see them get a little slice of power, you see they're the exact same thing.
And that's why you got to speak to principles. And that's why, you know, and what you were talking about before, sometimes you get excited about supporting these people. It's because you get suckered in by this underdog thing where you're like, no, Donald Trump is being censored. Look, the entire deep state's against Donald Trump. He's the guy that's going to oppose them. But then you hear him talk like this and you see, no, that's not what they're in this for. Yeah, man. It's like whoever, in my mind, it's like whoever's talking, the other side is winning. Yeah.
It's like if you just shut up and just let me listen to Kamala Harris, that's the closest to getting me to support Donald Trump. You know, there's something which which I do think, you know, now that I'm old and, you know, not old, but old for young people, I'm 41.
But one of the things that's kind of interesting is you get a little bit more of a perspective where I don't know if younger people are able to have this perspective because everything just like like if you're young today, social media, if you're 20, social media is just part of life.
Like that's one of the things we have in the same way that for us as kids, TV was just part of like, yeah, you have TV. Have you heard about like how your grandpa didn't have a TV? It'd be kind of like, man, there was a time before TV. All right. That's crazy. But your existence has not, but like, like I very vividly remember a time before social media. I have been doing standup comedy long enough. I've been doing standup comedy for 18 years now, believe, um,
When I started standup comedians didn't have social media, right?
Like it was a unique thing if one had one. Then right around when I was like a couple years in comedy, people started getting MySpace accounts. And then like some people would be like, you should start a MySpace because like it's good if you're going to be a comedian, you should have like a social media account. And that even seemed kind of weird. And then people were like, no, Dane Cook is like selling a ton of tickets because of his MySpace account. And this is back then Facebook was just for college kids. And there was no such thing as Twitter. There was no there weren't any of these other platforms.
I just say that to point out how relatively new a thing social media was in 2016. I'm fast forwarding a little bit here about 10 years between what I'm talking about when I started comedy in 2016, but it's only 10 years old.
And it and it was growing every single year. So it got to a point in 2016 where there was like this was totally different. This is a totally different thing now that like in a presidential campaign, you didn't need the traditional media in the same way you used to because you could speak right to your voters.
You didn't have to necessarily go on CNN. And also you could tweet something if you're a presidential candidate like Donald Trump. And then CNN had to talk about what you tweeted all day. So you could control the news cycle from your phone. This is a brand new thing that didn't exist before. And one of the things that rose up with with social media was like troll culture.
And look, troll culture has positives and negatives to it. There's, you know, it's entertaining. It can also be useful. It can also dumb down the conversation. Like there's good and bad with it. But young people got really into it. There's something about like if you go on social media and you see trolls, there's something about it that's the...
It's a very young and very male culture. Not to say there aren't women who are trolls, too, but generally speaking, it's a very young and a very male culture. And Donald Trump was kind of like the political version of a troll.
You know, like he just and when I say he's a troll, I just mean things like when like when Hillary Clinton would say it's a good thing. No one with your temperament is president of the United States. And he goes, because you'd be in jail that that just like captured the same energy that the there's a reason why today if Hillary Clinton posts something on on Twitter, the replies are turned off.
Because, you know, all of the replies are just that, just another version of that. Sometimes a more, a nastier version of that, but always just a version of like, you know, she'll just be like, we need to take measures to restore the American economy. And then like right underneath it, somebody's like, didn't you and your husband murder a bunch of people? You know, like it's just all that. And so Donald Trump in a weird way, and maybe not even knowingly,
or intentionally. But in 2016, he kind of became one with Pepe the Frog. You know, like he was the embodiment of that culture, which was very young. It's like what the young people at that time were doing. And then on top of that...
What was he campaigning on in 2016? Well, it was like, we never should have fought the war in Iraq. We shouldn't fight any of these stupid wars in the Middle East. We shouldn't have open borders. We shouldn't get ripped off on trade. By the way, all of Washington, D.C. is corrupt, and the corporate media are all a bunch of liars. They're all a bunch of liars. That was his campaign. And all of that together, it just captured this energy, like the dissident energy.
Like if you if you if you say fuck the system, who are you voting for in 2016 for Donald Trump? Because he's the fuck the system candidate. And now you fast forward to 2024. The establishment has failed even more. There's even more fuck the system energy. And also the person you're running against is just the system.
There actually is no person who you're running against. There is not a candidate on the other side. There is only the system. Kamala Harris might as well be AI. She doesn't really exist. I mean, she does exist, but what does she exist in? Five minutes of an interview the other day that she bombs at? It's all astroturf. It's all fake. You're running against the system.
And now in this environment, Donald Trump is not wise enough or does not have anyone around him who's wise enough to tell him that your path to victory here is to run against the system again. If there's a huge protest, I mean, just think about this. There's a huge protest movement on college campuses that is also saying, fuck the system.
And what they're saying about the system is they're saying, fuck the system that insists that we have to fund and arm what they see as a genocide in Gaza, which debatably is. And so they're like, oh, fuck the system. And by the way, who's the president of the United States of America? Well, as they would call him, Genocide Joe.
That's what the protesters are calling the guy who was your opponent until six weeks ago. They call him Genocide Joe. And so, Donald Trump, your instinct here is to come and signal against those kids on behalf of the system to say, why can't the system work the way it used to where we would shut these college kids up?
Like, are you not just smart enough to at least go, I should be playing those forces off of the Democrats instead of just bashing them and saying, I'll take out your problem, Kamala Harris. By the way, Kamala Harris was getting protests at her events a couple weeks ago.
A couple weeks ago, she was getting protested by this guy. There were protests outside of the DNC when she gave her acceptance speech. OK, then Donald Trump is going, I'll squash them for you. I'll squash your biggest political headache for you rather than going, look, even all your people hate you for supporting this policy. Look, even Democrats are acknowledging how terrible this is.
And Donald Trump, he doesn't even have to be he doesn't have to be me. He doesn't have to be like a critic of Israel. But if he wants to capture any of this energy, he would have to at least not be just a blind defender of the establishment, which is just awful. I think it's a it's a stinker like the vaccine that seems to be in the Donald Trump blind spot.
So what he could do is he could he could do a Donald Trump lie here and say, hey, I know how to fix it. The problem is Iran. And once I go and I oppose Iran, I weaker their power in the region. Hamas is going to know that they don't have any support. And let me tell you, they're going to give back the hostages.
and then we're going to deal with uh how it you know how we can fix the whole region i'm going to bring peace to the middle east is any of that true no but at least that that sells in a talking in a sound bite you can go out and go what's happening in gaza is absolutely terrible never would have happened when i was in power i know how to fix the middle east there's a power imbalance with iran we're going to get rid of that power imbalance hamas is going to be afraid they're going to get back to hostages we'll have peace is that true no sounds fine though
But instead, it's the same as the vaccine thing where he's so convinced, what I did, it was the best. No one else could have got it. So for some reason on this one, and maybe it's because of the donor class and who he's around or who's hanging out at Mar-a-Lago or otherwise, but he seems to think that, like,
the old school full support, you got to say, hey, I pledge allegiance to Israel is what's favorable. And so, hey, I'm going to it's what you always talk about the aces. He sees this as aces. He thinks he's going to pick it up and everyone else has lost touch with the nation that they're criticizing Israel. And what you need to be able to do is go, no, it's an American value that we support Israel. And right now it's the most important time to support them. I think this is a blind spot for him where he like,
It's the same as the vaccine. He actually thinks that this is that this sells. And it just I mean, the Torch Kennedy's campaign is
I don't know how this is going to play in a debate stage. You know, you're just you're totally giving up the hey, I'm opposing the deep state. I stand for not having censorship. I stand for America first. What happened to America first? Hey, we're going to build a wall and we're going to start caring about you. And now you're having a conversation about what's going on in the Middle East and we need to have more support for Israel. It just undermines literally all of the things that gave you oomph.
in the last campaign. - Yeah, 100%. 100%, and look, man, I'm sorry, but Donald Trump, like Donald Trump needs to really ask himself the question that Hillary Clinton so obnoxiously asked out loud in 2016, where she said, "You might wonder why am I not up by 50 points?" And of course, when Hillary Clinton asked the question, she said, "Why am I not up by 50 points?"
She answered her own question, at least to everybody watching. It was like, well, that's why. Because you're you. That's essentially why. Because you're so awful that as much as America, large swaths of America hated Donald Trump, they hated you so much that they wanted to fucking watch you lose to Donald Trump.
That's why. Now, if if if Donald Trump were to ask himself that question right now, which probably all Trump supporters should be asking, why isn't Donald Trump up by 50 points? He's running against Kamala Harris. How is he not dominating her in every single poll? You don't have to look any further than what Rob just said.
It was all right there in front of him, how to run on it. And he could even couch it in language or stuff that maybe me or you wouldn't say, but he could either say, he could even say, look, we love Israel. We love Israel. They're a great country. Great people. We'll always protect them. We'll make sure that nobody else can ever hurt Israel.
but what they're doing in gaza isn't right and we're not going to fund that we got too many problems here what i'm focused on is closing the border getting your jobs getting good health care getting all that's it if he was running on that he would be he would be winning by a substantial margin i completely believe that that and and also because look he could just say like he could he could couch it in america first in free speech
America has a right to care about Americans. We're in $35 trillion in debt. We can't afford to fund other countries' wars. And in America, by your birthright, you're allowed to speak your mind. You're allowed to say what you believe, period. That's what Americans are entitled to. I mean, you can't tell me that's not a winning message.
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By the way, real quick, before we wrap this up, let's just let's play that Nancy Pelosi clip, because, by the way, this is another thing of like, if you want to know what should Donald Trump run on, here's what Donald Trump should run on. This should be every single Donald Trump campaign ad right here.
the California lawmakers just passed a law. It hasn't been signed by Governor Newsom, but giving government assistance to undocumented immigrants to buy houses.
That's kind of a different place than the Democratic Party used to be on immigration. As a non-American, I say that's what the country is going to do. But that's certainly where California is. Well, let me just say, immigration had always been a bipartisan issue. I refer you to the... But not free houses.
Well, that's not free housing. It's American dream being available to more people. But understand this about immigration. The best speech on immigration was by President Ronald Reagan. This is the last speech I will make as president of the United States. I want to communicate a message to the country I love. And he talked about
the Statue of Liberty and the beacon of hope it is to the world, and what America was preeminent in the world because our door was always open. And we will cease to be preeminent when we shut the door. Now, I don't do justice to the great communicator. Google it. It's a fabulous speech. And George Herbert Walker Bush continued in that respect for the diversity of America and the rest. California's
always in the lead. Maybe others will follow that lead, but that's up to those states. But we are very blessed here with beautiful diversity. So you'd vote for this law? Excuse me? So you'd vote for this law? I'm not familiar with exactly what it is, but making the American dream of home ownership
available to all people is something we have to do for people who are here now. This is before you, this is undocumented. This is for the undocumented. Well, what I would like to do is move them to documented.
All right, you can turn this off. So that's a see now I kind of want to vote for Trump again. See, that's all. Well, it's like I mean, like that right there. And look, save all this stuff. Ronald Reagan gave a great speech. It's like, yeah, OK, 45 years ago, we were in a very different situation. We didn't have the border crisis that we have today. I mean, whatever. But isn't it just to say that it's like, what's your plan with the undocumented workers? Like make them documented. Yeah.
Oh, okay. Yeah. I mean, that is one way to solve the problem in the same way that if you got a problem with the crime of murder, you could say the solution is to legalize murder. Now you don't have a crime anymore, but that's not really, you know, that's not. And then of course the whole conversation is over. By the way, I find really interesting to this. And I know we got to wrap up, so I'll try to make this brief, but
First of all, the American dream being equated with home ownership is such a scheme by the big banks.
It's been something they've been really pushing for 30 years, but that that's somehow you're supposed to. The American dream was always historically about coming to a prosperous, free country and giving your kids a better life than they would have had back home in the old country. That was kind of like the American dream. The American dream was that you could make it here. You could be the author of your own story. And if you worked hard and you had talent, you could make it.
The idea that the American dream was equated with home ownership is something that like...
it was like something that jp morgan chase came up with in 1994. you know what i mean like that there's no and i as somebody who owns a home i own a home for one reason and one reason only and that's because i want i don't want my kids to have to move around a lot in their childhood i wanted i wanted to give them one home where they grow up for their whole childhood because i moved around a lot as a kid and i don't think that's the best um
Aside from that, if you're childless, I'm not sure it's so obvious that you should be buying a home. I mean, like, even if the value appreciates, like, go look at how much you got to pay back compared to what you borrow. It's not necessarily such a great deal. But regardless, we're talking about now the government giving you a free home. Since when has that ever been the American dream? The American dream is a handout from the taxpayers. That's the dream.
that you could be in a home that you know you didn't earn yourself they got and then just the idea that not only are you supporting it you're supporting legalizing illegal immigration but that also that hey mr taxpayer you know the guy who wants to build the wall not only do you not get that wall not only are we making illegal immigration legal but you gotta buy him a house
Oh, I know you can't afford a house, but you got to buy this other guy a house. I mean, that's what Donald Trump should be running on. He's got it all right here. Not this sucking up to AIPAC nonsense.
All right. Pelosi wants to buy illegal immigrants homes. Yeah, that's it. There's your campaign. All right, guys, we're going to wrap there. Thank you for listening. Catch you tomorrow with a brand new episode. And if I can plug a couple of days. Oh, yeah. Go ahead. Time this up. We'll probably have them up. But just added a whole bunch of porches. First one, September 21st out in Detroit, then September 22nd, Salt Lake City and then Jacksonville, October 5th in Miami, October 6th. And then more dates coming at you.
Hell yeah. All right. Thanks for watching, guys. Catch you next time.