The Christian Revival in the West and the Shocking Jobs Report in America
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This is what happens when the fourth turning meets fifth generation warfare. A commentator, international social media sensation, and former Navy intelligence veteran. This is Human Events with your host, Jack Posobiec. Christ is king. Why was Mike Walz let go?

So it wasn't let go. He is being made ambassador to the United Nations, which of course is a Senate confirmed position. I think you can make a good argument that it's a promotion. But we brought Mike on to do some serious reforms of the National Security Council. He has done that. I like Mike. I think he's a great guy. He's got the trust of both me and the president. But we also thought that he'd make a better UN ambassador as we get

BEYOND THIS STAGE OF THE REFORMS THAT WE'VE MADE TO THE NATIONAL SECURITY COUNCIL. LOOK, I THINK THE MEDIA WANTS TO FRAME THIS AS A FIRING. DONALD TRUMP HAS FIRED A LOT OF PEOPLE. HE DOESN'T GIVE THEM SENATE-CONFIRMED APPOINTMENTS AFTERWARDS. PRESIDENT TRUMP IS READY TO UNVEIL HIS BIG, BEAUTIFUL BUDGET TOMORROW. THE WHITE HOUSE HAS GIVEN GOP LEADERS A LIST OF WANTS.

after the president met with a group of lawmakers today. Federal agents announced the biggest illegal immigration roundup in Florida's history. More than 1,100 people were arrested last week. And Secretary Pete Hedges, directing the secretary of the army to cut wasteful spending. The army is planning a sweeping transformation that will merge or close headquarters, dump outdated vehicles and aircraft,

slash as many as 1,000 headquarters staff in the Pentagon and shift personnel to units in the field. Shein and Timu, these are two brands that made a name for themselves by being able to ship directly Chinese goods to U.S. households dirt, dirt cheap, really cheap. And so now you're seeing Shein raising prices and Timu putting the import tax

right into your cart. This administration closed a loophole that allowed these low dollar goods to be shipped directly to U.S. households. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events Daily here live in Washington, D.C. Today is May 2nd, 2025. Anno Domini, the jobs report that came out today.

Absolutely smashed expectations from Wall Street, especially the same Wall Street that I was told, oh my gosh, President Trump is going to destroy everything. The tariffs will never work. The tariffs, the tariffs, they are losing their minds. Do you hear all the tariffs or the complication? The calculation of the tariffs wasn't good. It wasn't good. It wasn't set up right. Now?

Look at the jobs report. Came in tens of thousands, I think 40,000 or 50,000 more jobs than were expected by Wall Street. We are only on the cusp. This is the very beginning of the Trump job boom in America. Yeah, only 100 days is all it took.

for Trump's job boom to get launched. And analysts are scratching their heads. They're saying, I don't know what could happen. Why could it be that the tariffs would do that? I don't know. Well, I'm not sure because maybe you could actually let the man cook. Just let the man cook. Also, by the way, not only did he stop

stun Wall Street with these numbers. But what have we seen? Well, and thanks to Zero Hedge, they've got a chart up. Let's look at jobs that actually went to Americans rather than foreign-born workers. American-born workers up now up a million foreign-born workers down 410,000. Well, folks,

That's what I voted for. So I'm going to take my, I got what I voted for award and pin it right up to my wall next to the other several hundred of them. Look,

there's a lot of people who didn't get this and i'm just going to say maybe you need to stop yapping and start listening by the way we're also tracking these reports u.s saying that they're now pulling out potentially of peace talks with russia and ukraine however i think that this might be another negotiation tactic

We'll see what actually takes place. This, of course, comes from Russia coming out and slamming the mineral deal that the U.S. and Ukraine signed a couple of days ago. We're going to keep an eye on that. And, of course, we're in direct communication with members of the administration every day to figure out exactly what's going on so we can get the story to you, the American people. That's what you hear here every day on Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec. We'll be right back.

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or are very excited here on Human Events Daily today. We have a commissioner of the FCC actually joining us here on the program. So I've got to be extra careful that I stay within FCC guidelines today because we got to be careful, folks. We got to be careful. The hall monitor is here and they're going to be checking every single word that we say. Folks, it's Nate Symington. He's a commissioner of the FCC. Welcome to the program.

Delighted to be here. I think we got a lot of cool things to talk about today. Well, Commissioner, I'd love if I could, and I know it's not exactly your lane, but I'd love to get your comment on this jobs report that's just come out because I think it really is stunning a lot of people out there who said, how can jobs be up this much given all of what we were told was a tumultuous stock market and a tumultuous economy over the last couple weeks? Right. Well...

There's a famous saying that originated with Warren Buffett, that in the short term, the stock market is a voting machine, and in the long term, it's a weighing machine. So when you see a lot of volatility in the stock market, it's a sign that people aren't necessarily sure which way to jump.

And it's worth remembering that lots of people on Wall Street make a lot of money, not on betting on the long-term valuations of the company, but instead betting on, for whatever company we're talking about, betting on a particular trading direction. So it's a little bit like if you're handicapping a sports spread or something like that. It's not necessarily important to win or lose. It's important to have an advantage over the spread to be the smart money and to buy and sell your positions on that basis.

So what we could look at is a lot of volatility causing people to shake money out of the system and get on the sidelines because they're just not sure how the strategies they've used for the last five years are going to succeed on a forward-looking basis. All of a sudden, maybe long-term valuation has become a bigger player than it had prior. So I'm not a finance professional, but that's my amateurish read from the sides, that at this point, the real economic numbers are going to be much, much more interesting than watching the stock ticker.

Well, I think this is exactly right. And I was kind of making a joke the other day when there are some people I said, tell me how I know you bought NVIDIA high without you telling me you bought NVIDIA high. I get it. All right. There are certain people that when certain policies are announced, they get very upset about that. But in this profession that we do, the question is, it's not about what affects us directly. It's about what's actually going on in the

And this is something where, by the way, this idea of onshoring, this idea of providing jobs for the American people, this is exactly what President Trump campaigned on. And, you know, I'm not trying to be a cheerleader here, but I'm pointing out, I'm calling balls and strikes.

This is precisely what he said that he would get to work doing. Here we are at exactly 100 days in, and he's got a Trump job boom. That is, by the way, it's not something that I'm predicating. It's something that's actually seen in the data. That's what's going on writ large across the country right now. Yeah, absolutely. Well, I mean, there was a report recently that showed that 25% of Americans would be willing to work in manufacturing.

The people who don't like the idea of manufacturing, perhaps they've never had anyone in their family who was involved with direct or primary production. And, you know, maybe they just have an email job. So for them, it's not appealing or they don't think it would be appealing. They looked at that number of 25% and said, wow, you know, this proves that manufacturing will never find takers in the American workforce. Thing is only...

Only 8% of Americans currently work in manufacturing. So my friends who do manufacturing were over the moon ecstatic, saying, look how many more people want to come work for us. So this is one of these things where it's very easy to misread the tea leaves from a comfortable berth at a DC desk.

There are a lot of real Americans who have, you know, perhaps they or their parents had real production jobs that were sources of pride and that were great options for them. And then when those went away, it's not as though they just sat around unemployed forever, but there's a certain amount of, you know, part-time security guard, gig economy in there. I think there are a lot of people who want to get back to work. And as the United States, I think we've got a huge amount of capital that would love to employ them. It's just a matter of getting the parts right.

Well, and that's actually a great point that you bring up, though. People willing, but also there's a lot of people who don't necessarily have the training or the family experience because a lot of these jobs, right, this is something that has been lost as we've moved our society more in search of these, you know, elusive at some point. Oh, the service sector jobs, the service sector jobs, the service sector jobs. I remember the first time I heard about that when I was, you know, I think still in college.

And we're going to move to a service sector kind of said, what does that mean? Who are we serving? What are we producing? What are we actually making? And nobody can ever really explain that to you. And ultimately, it's because there's a hollowing of the society. There is no primary industry. This is something, of course, Vice President Vance talks about all the time because he's literally lived it.

in the town where they once had a primary vector for their economic activity being factories or much of Appalachia you see mining of course coal mines now of course drilling with fracking and the LNG fields in like Marcellus Shale out of Pennsylvania where I'm from but we really have lost a lot of

At one point, it was generational knowledge. Now I'd even just say it's national knowledge of how to go into these types of fields. And this is going to become an issue as we move back towards it.

Yeah, I totally agree. I mean, if you talk to people who work in, for example, electrical utilities, or if you talk to people who work in various trades, you'll often hear this question. I don't know where the next generation is coming from. I don't know where the continuity is. I know of at least one major engineering college that shut down its power engineering program a few years ago.

for lack of interest, which is too bad because my son was considering going there to study that. But that sort of took that one off the table when we found out it had been shuttered. I guess I would say there is this discontinuity and probably the form of manufacturing employment that we would look to see grow in the future would not precisely resemble the mass assembly line labor, I guess, media image or vibe that a lot of people have in their bones or just saw it on TV.

It's not going to look like that, but it's going to look like something. And I mean, even in China, it doesn't look like that anymore. Not so much. There are sweatshops in China, for sure. There are people sitting at a sewing machine 12 hours a day, six days a week. But a lot of what we're talking about when we talk about Chinese advanced manufacturing, the kind of stuff we would like to make here, advanced batteries, you know,

weapon system components to be sure, but also just something as simple as the BYD car. The things stopping us from making it here are usually not the quality of worker available. They're usually not even the technology, although there's some integration that we could be doing. It's as much as anything, just capital systematic... Commissioner, we're coming up on a quick break here and I'd love if I can hold you over. So honored to have you on the program here today because

I think a big piece of this that we want to look at nationwide is China and what we can do to compete with China and hopefully, and I suspect we can, out-compete China. This is Jack Posobiec. You're listening to Human Events Daily, Real America's Voice, and the Salem Radio Network. Right back, quick break. Hey, you know, they talk about influencers. These are influencers, and they're friends of mine.

Jack Posobiec. Where's Jack? Jack? He's done a great job. All right, Jack Posobiec, here we are back live, Human Events Daily, Real America's Voice, Salem Radio Network, welcoming in the third hour, The Charlie Kirk Show. We're here live with FCC Commissioner Nate Symington. And Commissioner, just when we left before, we were talking about China and we were talking about capacity issues.

One of the things as a prior Navy intelligence officer, I think a lot about shipbuilding. I actually do. I spend a lot. It might be kind of my nerdy hobby, but it is certainly something that I consider when it – in terms of –

America's force projection in terms of our ability to protect our merchant ships out on the open seas and freedom of navigation around the world, an increasingly tumultuous world. Anyone can see what's going on in the Red Sea and the Houthis right now as pertains to that. And yet,

We have fallen so far behind the Chinese on shipbuilding to the point of where I believe Vice President Vance said that we've only built something like three major ships in an entirety of all last year. This is something that falls directly in line with what you're talking about, isn't it?

It absolutely does. It absolutely does. Imagine going back to the United States of 1930, 1950, 1970, and saying one day China is going to build half the ships in the world. Japan and South Korea are going to split much of the difference. Italy will have a piece and the United States will have zero. But that's within, you know, we built a few ships in the United States. There are some regulatory and other legal compliance reasons, but it's not the industry it used to be.

The father of capitalism, Adam Smith, was identifying things that governments should be spending on. And one of his examples was the Navy, which makes sense for 18th century Britain. It seems funny to say that we're going to have military shipbuilding unless we have a comprehensive full stack of the associated civilian technologies and people with relevant civilian training to step in. It's very, very difficult to imagine

a truly healthy Navy without some sort of strength in this area. And it's strange that, as you say, a Navy built to protect commerce internationally in an uncertain world. And there's still piracy. There's a movie about it. I'm the captain now. It's funny that in a world like this, the United States has less presence in this area than the international guarantor of the seas would be expected to have.

I guess just to put a pin in this one, what I'm saying advanced technology is to build the Navy. We need a steel industry for this that is truly healthy and flourishing, but we also need an advanced manufacturing sector that's capable of meeting the kinds of price points and capabilities that can only be acquired

by longstanding industrial engagement outside of the normal military contracting process. You know, I've heard from people working in this area that the South Koreans can do things in two days or a week that might take us six months or more to do. And they've developed that expertise painstakingly over time. And if the answer for us is that it's better to repair our ships there, well, that might be a good short-term answer. But as far as a long-term answer, it's obviously got to be development of American capabilities.

capability. Otherwise, we're not going to be up to our jobs of keeping the seas free.

And that's what it all comes down to, right? You know, you talk about these things, talk about Marist, Alabama, right? We needed our ship to be able to perform that maneuver so that the Navy SEAL snipers from SEAL Team 6 could be able to get in place to deal with those Somalian pirates. And so, you know, it's one of these situations where, you know, these are old problems. These are actually, shipbuilding is one of the things that in many ways built the United States, even back when we were just the 13 colonies. This was

these are not new industries at all what's new is this idea through globalism that we could that we didn't need these industries anymore and that we could offshore them and then somehow just bring back the products here through the flow of capital and it really isn't working and this is why for so many reasons places like plymouth places like our portsmouth places like newport news uh where so many incredible ships are built

This is why those areas have been built up so much and there's so many jobs out there. Well, guess what? They're going to be lost and those are going to be brought up in Connecticut. I could just keep naming off places and areas where there's so much economic activity surrounding this.

just from the military side, not to mention commercial. I'm from Philadelphia, by the way, where we've got effectively a mothballed shipyard that used to be one of the great job providers in the area. It was the Philadelphia Navy Yard. Commissioner, where could people go to track you? This was great. This was not what we planned on talking about at all, but sometimes it just works out that way. Where could people go to get more information from you?

Well, my at is Symington FCC. So S-I-M-I-N-G-T-O-N FCC. And that's the same at on Instagram, Twitter and True Social. Just maybe one last closing comment on the ships.

In Primary Colors, which came out in 91 or 92, the Clinton stand-in is already telling people in Portsmouth, you know, we're not going to be making ships anymore. The muscle jobs are going overseas, is I believe the phrase. So he's all but telling them learn to code. So this has been in the air for more than 30 years, and we've had plenty of lead time to deal with it. But, you know, the first step is admitting. First step is admitting you have a problem. We'll be right back here at Human Events Daily. And Jack wins, Jack.

Where's Jack? Where is he? Jack, I want to see you. Great job, Jack. Thank you. What a job you do. You know, we have an incredible thing. We're always talking about the fake news and the bad, but we have guys, and these are the guys who should be getting policies.

All right, Jack Posobiec, we are back live here, Washington, D.C. Another beautiful day in Washington, D.C. I'm glad it's good weather today because immediately after this, I'm going to a fun run with my kids where they're going to throw paint on me, which will be great. I'm really, really excited. I will be taking the jacket off for that.

It's a fundraiser. I want to welcome in here the Salem Radio Network as well as the Real America's Voice audience and our next guest, the great Dr. Steve Turley. Dr. Turley, thanks so much for joining us back here on Human Events.

Oh, it's great to be back with you, Jack. Do I get to come and throw paint at you too? You can come, but I've got to have my paintball gun there, so you better be ready. Oh, no. Oh, I'm going to get it back. Oh, there you go. With my kind of courage, I'll hide behind the kids. Yeah, I'll see some kids when I'm at Soposo when I get the Tippmann A5 out. But Dr. Turley, I wanted to ask you what we've seen, and you and I were kind of tweeting the other day when Easter happened that it seemed like

from a variety of different signs that this Easter seemed like a bigger Easter. It just, it just, it was, it's hard to say because Easter is always big. Of course, it's the biggest Christian, you know, festival and holiday of the year, liturgically and theologically, of course. But, but,

There was more around this Easter. You saw the great King of Kings from Angel Studios, by the way, was breaking records at the box office. And then The Chosen was at the box office with like three other movies. I think there was another Christian-themed movie that was at the box office. Meanwhile, Snow White went down in flames, Snow Woke. What is going on right now? And are we experiencing a Christian revival?

We are. In a nutshell, we are. It's pretty astonishing stuff. Scholars call it re-traditionalization, and it's really happening. We're seeing it in real time. I was following your X feed right around Easter weekend. You were on top of it all, as usual. But yeah, I mean, the numbers don't lie. In France, there was a record-breaking 17,800 converts baptized worldwide.

across the country. This is 10,400 adult baptisms, 7,400 young people baptisms. This is between 11 and 17, all into the Catholic Church. And keep in mind, these are baptisms. So these are converts coming in. They've never been baptized before. 45% increase from this time last year in 2024. It wasn't just France, Belgium. Baptisms were up 50% from this time last year.

In London, in the Catholic Archdiocese of Westminster, there are a record number 500 converts who received into the church on Easter Vigil. That's a 24% increase from their previous highest, which was back in 2018.

And this is, again, part of this stunning sort of surge, particularly in trad Catholic church membership in the UK. They're on course to surpass. And I bet you know this, Jack. They're on course to surpass the Anglican church membership for the first time since Henry VIII, since the founding of the Anglican church. And we saw some comparable numbers here in the United States. Yeah, yeah.

It's stunning. It's stunning. 350 people were baptized. Wait, does that mean, by the way, Dr. Turley, does that mean, does that mean we get all our abbeys and monasteries and churches back that the king and the crown confiscated from the Catholic church? I think I'll have to wait on that one, I suppose. Well, bring your paintball back. You may be able to get out of reach. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

No, it's amazing stuff. I have to tell you, because what's going on here is just par for the course of what's happening all over the world.

scholars such as Rodney Stark of Baylor University just passed away a couple of years. He was calling it what he was noticing over the last decade, the single greatest religious revival in the world we've actually ever seen. And it is turning the world more and more politically conservative. And it's this process known as retraditionalization, where more and more populations are pushing back against liberal globalism, against wokeness,

by re-embracing nation, culture, custom, and tradition, most particularly their religious traditions, as mechanisms of resistance against the anti-cultural processes of liberal globalism and its secular aristocracy. And they're embracing, what's so cool about it, Jack, is they're embracing real classical traditionalist

Christianity. They're attracted to the Latin mass. We're seeing in my communion, the Orthodox communion, we've seen an 80% increase in converts since 2022, which was the highest number recorded post-pandemic. And you and I were talking about this in Austin. It's being driven primarily by young men.

Young men, more than anyone else, are coming into the church. Actually, for the very first time, we're finding that young men's faith commitment is larger than women's. So this was based on an American Enterprise Institute study. Gen Zers, 5,000 of them. So these are people born between 1997 and 2012. And in that survey, they asked you, identify as religious or non-religious? Right.

About 40% of the women there describe themselves as non-religious, but only about 30% of the men describe themselves as non-religious. That's unheard of. We've never seen that before. Researchers always find men more non-religious than

than women always you any any age cohort, you name it. Not with Gen Z. Gen Z is looks like it's not just the most religious demographic that we have in terms of age. It may actually be the one representing where the men are returning and they're turning to faith. And this this is amazing. And by the way, and I've seen by the way, I'll say this with, you know, we see it at the Catholic Church.

where if you go to churches now, it started in the Latin right churches, but now it's moved over even into the Novus Ordo. That's the ones that you'll see in English for those out there trying to follow up with all of our liturgical talk. You're Latin. Yeah, that's right. That you will see the veils. The veils are coming back. And what's so interesting to me is that

You see the veils coming back with women who are sort of, you know, over 60, but also the women under 30. The women under 30 are coming in in veils. And you're seeing...

they will kneel, but full kneel before they go for communion and kneel and no communion on the hand, actually communion on the tongue. And what does that mean? That, you know, basically that is the more traditional way. I am not worthy. This is the body of Christ. And again, these are these outward implements that we can all see to realize that

that what's going on is, and I think, and I'll ask your take on it as well, but I imagine it's similar, that what's going on is that we've lived in such a secular atheistic world. It's like, guys, the atheist, you've had your shot. You had your shot and it completely failed. I said it yesterday on the program. COVID was your shining moment in the mud.

and people realize that we can't go on like this anymore, and so they're grasping for some sort of traditional meaning. They want to snap all the way back as far as they can go, and that's why they're going back where? To the most traditional forms of worship that we have available. Those available in the traditional rites of the Catholic Church and in the Orthodox Church.

That's why they're looking for that. They don't want the, you know, the woke modernist, you know, kind of stuff. And I was at that temporary prayer service with the female bishop that President Trump and J.D. Vance and she starts yelling at them and go. I was I was sitting a couple of pews behind them with my brother and just.

She's going off about illegal aliens and you shouldn't do that. It's kind of looking at each other like, what do we get ourselves into? And yes, yeah, pull their pull their tax exempt status along with Harvard's, by the way. But do you think that's what it is? Are people searching for meaning and they want the fullest meaning they can find?

Yeah, I think you're absolutely right. Yeah, well, what you found yourself in is something called Episcopalianism. Yes, you should listen to Tucker talk about it, being an Episcopalian. It's quite the fun stories there. I think you're absolutely right. There's a theorist, a cyclical theorist, very much like fourth turning, but at a bigger like civilizational level by the name of Petirum Sorokin. He's the American-Russian theorist.

sociologist. He founded the sociology department at Harvard back in 1930s. And that's his, you pretty much summed up his argument. His argument in a nutshell is that all civilization is rooted in religion, you know, classic ancient religion. All civilization is rooted in religion because religion provides those sacred frames of reference to

that give constant renewal to society. Society is always breaking down in some way, shape or form. It needs to find sort of like a fountain of youth to constantly rejuvenate itself. And that's what religion traditionally provided. And then he recognized that every society has a secular element to it.

You know, you got to learn how to you got to mow the lawn, you got to do your accounting, you got to cook the meals and blah, blah, blah. So, so he just saw the secular is just the mundane everyday sort of stuff but the secular was always in some way shape or form an embodiment of the sacred of the eternal of the of the religious.

He theorized that virtually every society at some point goes on a prodigal journey where the secular sort of breaks off

from the sacred and says, I got this. I don't need you no more kind of thing. So it breaks off from the sacred and tries to do its own thing for a while, but it inevitably ends up collapsing because it doesn't have those eternal sources of renewal that you get only with the religious sacred. So it ends up inevitably collapsing. I love how you said it like in a sense of

COVID in many ways, I think, was it was the most stark moment where we recognize, is this what we signed up for? The sterile, ugly, sort of tyrannical, despotic nonsense. So it starts to rot. But what Sorokin, this is the cyclical part, pointed out, Sorokin noted that that rot actually turned more into a compost crop.

And then the religious seeds are still there to blossom again. And they're still there because they really are eternal. They really are an eternal point of renewal. We may leave them these eternal seeds, but it doesn't leave us. And so when we rot, when we come back on our prodigal journey, all of a sudden you'll inevitably see another spring tide approaching.

of religious renewal. It's a beautiful cyclical picture. This is why, by the way, that when the communists come to power in any country, anywhere, and the revolutionaries, what's the first group they go after? Well, they try to root out those seeds. That's exactly who they target because they realize that there cannot be a competing religion to their religion.

And so what do they do? They target the priests. They target the nuns. They target the clergy. And we saw this from Spain to Russia to France to China and even the religious there, the monks. And they wipe them out completely until, or in some cases, they are stopped. By the way, happy Franco Friday. This is Jack Posobiec. You're listening to Human Events Daily, Real America's Voice and Salem Radio Network. We're on with Dr. Steve Turley. We'll be right back.

Jack is a great guy. He's written a fantastic book. Everybody's talking about it. Go get it. And he's been my friend right from the beginning of this whole beautiful event. And we're going to turn it around and make our country great again. Amen. Now, a double shift happening in American public life. Ever since the baby boomer generation, surveys have shown women are more religious than men, but not anymore.

Two new surveys show Gen Z men are more likely to claim religious affiliation and even attend church than their female counterparts. Let's bring in NBC News correspondent and NBC News Now Daily anchor Morgan Radford for a closer look at this trend.

what it means even politically, Morgan? - Mika, great question. It has a lot of political implications, especially if you sort of look down in the decades to come. But it's a trend that America's religious leaders have been paying attention to, but it's also something that a growing number of political groups are tracking since this shift toward religion is happening at the very same time that we're also seeing more young men lean conservative on a number of social issues. - All right, Jack Posobiec here. We are back live.

For the third hour of the Charlie Kirk Show on the Salem Radio Network, as well as Real America's Voice Human Events Daily, we're on with Dr. Steve Turley, the host of Turley Talks and the author of Fight.

the new book, you should go and get it and check it out. It explains so much about what's going on right now and what you can do about it. And we're talking about this religious revival. And, you know, we were just talking in the last segment about how this is also, by the way, coming up in political results. You see it in election results. There's this election in Canada that, yes, it went to the liberals. But when you break it out by age, guess what?

It's only the 55 plus that voted for the liberals. Every other age demographic under 55 voted for the conservatives. This is a complete inversion of what we thought would happen with politics. And so what is it? Do you believe that this is also something that's driving this, Dr. Turley?

Oh, definitely. Yeah. Yeah. And I'm laughing because we were talking before the break. There is a large books, about 400 pages, two British authors called The Cultural Backlash.

And it's been widely known as the cultural backlash thesis. I think it was published in 2018, 2019. And it basically made the argument that, yeah, Trump has won. This is back in 2016. Yeah, we're seeing the nationalist populace rise all over Europe. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But don't worry. Those are just a bunch of old white men who were threatened by this new, beautiful, multicultural progressivism that's rebelling.

awakening all around them. And they're just doing their Archie Bunker thing, but they're all going to die out. And within 10 years or so, this world is going to be this happy, clappy, woke place. And the reason why that is so

so absurd is because it's the exact opposite in the end. It's actually the boomers. Sorry, you know, Xers aren't that much better per se. I'm an Xer technically, but, but really the boomers are kind of the, they're the hangover as it were. They're the lag, uh,

of an old world, a liberal industrial modernist world that really came to the fore in 1991 with the fall of the Soviet Union. And then we became kind of the unipolar. We became a unipolar world with the United States at the head and kind of neocon philosophy saying we basically rule the world. We rule it politically. We rule it economically. We rule it militarily. And

And, and that world that concept of just the structures the WTO and the IMF managing world order the rules based order where you put all this trust in, in, in those institutions and in universities and science because they're all rational and objective, that world is dead. It is, it is dead in the hearts, certainly in the hearts and minds of

of people under the age, I would say, of 50. And it still lives on. There is the lag. It's still there, no question. But I think politically, it's really only living in the memories of voters who are probably 60 and up, who still have a lot of trust in those institutions, who still believe when they're hearing things from the CDC or the WHO, oh, I better listen to that kind of stuff.

They still believe in that. And they see the new nationalist populist movements around the world as fascist and Nazi and dangerous and white supremacists and Christian nationalists and so forth. And when in point of fact, all it is, it's another world that's rising. It's another world order that's rising. What is it?

nation, culture, custom, tradition. It's civilizationalism. So it's a world where civilization is rising together with the ancient religions so as to create a new world that is far more conservative, but I would argue as well, far more free because it breaks through those managerial institutions that function as a one size fits all top down rule.

That's an incredible way of looking at it, the rise and the return, perhaps, of Western civilization, because we see Eastern civilization being absolutely resurgent right now on the world stage. You see it with Russia, which, of course, is an ancient civilization. You see it with India. You see it with China. Certainly, these have been around for thousands of years. So who are we as the

the west and i think we've been sort of going through this uh national and civilizational question for quite some time and you know it's it's making us question some of the shibboleths and the taboos that that and the values that we've been holding up over the last 30 years and realizing that perhaps that was a that was a singular moment in global history that's never going to come back again and so we have to remember who we are dr turley we're all out of time where can people go to follow you and get the book

Oh, you can just punch my name, Dr. Steve Turley, into YouTube or Rumble. You'll find my channel there. And just go to Amazon to grab the book, Fight, How Trump and the MAGA Movement Are Changing the World. Amen. Ladies and gentlemen, as always, you have my permission to lay ashore. ♪