Trump Announces 2 Week Delay on US Involvement in the Iran Conflict - Blessed Are the Peacemakers
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Overnight, a routine pre-flight test of SpaceX Ship 36 ending in disaster. Ship 36 just blew up. I mean, even the other day when they, whoa! The US Supreme Court setting a precedent in a brand new ruling. Justices upheld a Tennessee law and banned children under 18 from getting any kind of transgender care.

This ruling is 6-3 in D.C. It affects states like Texas here, and it bans doctors from helping minors transition. At least 85 people were hurt in the latest Iranian ballistic missile attack, this in Tel Aviv and beyond, including a direct hit on a hospital in southern Israel. Overnight, Israel attacking dozens of military targets around the country, including an Iranian nuclear facility south of Tehran.

Right now, the president is getting an intel briefing inside the White House, and he and his team are weighing their options on whether the United States should join Israel's attacks on Iran. One U.S. official has already told Fox the president has been asking questions to his aides about bunker-busting bombs. I don't want to get involved either, but I've been saying for 20 years, maybe longer, that Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon. I've been saying it for a long time, and I think they were a few weeks away from having one.

And they had to sign a document. I think they wish they signed it now. It was a fair deal. And now it's a harder thing to sign. Now, regarding the ongoing situation in Iran, I know there has been a lot of speculation amongst all of you in the media regarding the President's decision-making and whether or not the United States will be directly involved. In light of that news, I have a message directly from the President, and I quote:

Based on the fact that there's a substantial chance of negotiations that may or may not take place with Iran in the near future, I will make my decision whether or not to go within the next two weeks. That's a quote directly from the president for all of you today. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition Human Events Daily, Washington, D.C. Today is June 19th, 2025.

Anno Dominique. Guys, if we can get that shot back up with that beautiful White House with those huge American flags next to it. Folks, take a good, beautiful look at those huge flags that you can see flying right there from the White House. That is the two flags atop the brand new... Guys, can we zoom in a little bit on that? I mean, that is just absolutely gorgeous. I'm seeing this now for myself the very first time. Absolutely gorgeous.

May they fly forever. Folks, the news is breaking and it is stunning. President Trump has just announced a two-week delay in his decision on Iran.

What can I say other than blessed are the peacemakers and in fact, blessed are the dealmakers. President Trump has announced also that Iran is, I believe he said, likely or unlikely to have negotiations and discuss these negotiations in a statement through Press Secretary Caroline Leavitt, which you just heard moments ago. That's a message to Iran.

our American troops that are there stationed throughout the Middle East, to our aircraft carriers and the thousands upon thousands of sailors on them, to the pilots, the crews, everyone.

Two weeks. There's not going to be a strike right now. There's not going to be a strike tonight. There will be a two-week delay in order for Iran to have these conversations and potentially continue these conversations with President Trump through, of course, his envoy, special envoy, Steve Witkoff. Folks, when President Trump ran in 2024, when he ran in 2020, and when he ran in 2016,

He ran on peace. He ran on being an anti-war president. He ran to be the dealmaker in chief. And if there's anyone who can put together a grand deal on Iran, Russia, and China, it's Donald J. Trump. Be right back. What America first truly means. Welcome to the second American revolution.

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Folks, as we are looking, as we're looking now at this decision coming out from President Trump, there's quite a lot of breaking news, as you can see, the back and forth from Trump.

What's come out in the latest? And the strikes continue. We talked about this war of air attrition, and the war of air attrition continues. IDF now releasing footage of the destruction of a containment dome at the Arak nuclear reactor by a cruise missile. A huge strike by Israel on Iran that took place last night.

Also hearing that Iran coming out saying, and Israel even come out saying, I should say, that Iran still has advanced missiles, and that only 65% of the missiles launched by Iran in the last 24 hours were intercepted by the country's Iron Dome system, versus almost 90 the day before. So that's what an Israeli official told NBC News earlier today.

What does that mean? Well, exactly what we told you yesterday here on the program, when we said with General Flynn and we walked through the stockpiles of these air interceptor missiles that are being shot by Israel every night on the Iranian onslaught of the ballistics. So they come in. First of all, one key piece of this to keep in mind, those air interceptors are incredibly expensive. The cost of them, it far exceeds the cost of

any one of these dumbfired missiles from Iran. And so, as General Flynn was saying, the precision targeting isn't necessarily there, but it doesn't need to be because the goal is an attrition to attrite, to degrade Israel's ability to defend themselves. And you do that through waves upon waves of missile strikes. And in fact, people are saying, well, why is Iran only shooting one or two or three missiles at a time? Well, possibly the reason is

because they want Israel to fire off their expensive interceptor missiles and keep this going on and on.

to the point where they know they can't defeat the Iron Dome directly, so what are they doing? They're degrading Iron Dome. They're draining them of ammo, draining them of resources. This is a strategy, and we're seeing that strategy play out as Israel has gone from a 90% interception rate down to a 65% interception rate. We've got now, I want to bring on Kenny Cody from humanevents.com.

the opinion editor there. Kenny, this breaking news just, I think, takes everyone, of course, by surprise that President Trump has made this decision to call for a delay, two weeks, to allow for negotiations, discussion, dialogue, perhaps even a White House meeting. A White House meeting, by the way, that Mark Levin said should not happen, that Mark Levin came in and said that President Trump should not have any more meetings.

And Mark Levin decided that it was his call that President Trump should not have any more meetings as opposed to the actual commander in chief that we all voted for because I remember who we voted for. His name was Donald Trump. It wasn't anyone else or any of these other figures. President Trump making his response to that pressure by saying, I want to wait another two weeks. Kenny, walk us through some of the initial reaction here and

And the tea leaves on why the president came out this way. I mean, I think it's pretty obvious. We've always had a foreign policy in MAGA and President Trump has always held it of being having peace through strength and prioritizing diplomacy, prioritizing having negotiations before we actually make a militaristic strike that's going to launch our relations into being violent, using bombs, using weapons.

And people are not used to that. I don't know when the panikins are going to learn that this is a process. They did the same thing with tariffs. As soon as we have anything pointed, as soon as we have any kind of negotiations, everybody panics and say, well, we're going to go into nuclear war. We're going to go into war and we want it. We want war.

but you have to get President Trump time. Foreign relations and America first foreign policy is not about just coming to the table and negotiating from the outstart. We are now having some sort of rhetoric that is aggressive, that has had strength to it, is a strong sort of rhetoric to bring Iran to the table saying if we don't, if they think bad things,

from America are going to happen if you do not come to the table, agree to denuclearize, and assure that we're going to have a conversation that is going to be best not only for America, but for the rest of the world. And that's what Mark Levin and others, neocons, Lindsey Graham, do not want us to come to hell. Tom Tillis that wants a regime-changed war and foreign policy do not want it. They want us to bomb Iran. They want us to send our men and women in the military over there to fight Iran.

on behalf of other countries. That's not what America wants. That's not what MAGA wants. We want Iran to come to the table, come to the White House, meet with President Trump and meet with the National Security Council to ensure that the most efficient America first foreign policy is going to happen

And that is not through nuclear war. That is not through World War III. And that is not the neoconservative foreign policy that Mark Levin and others want. We want an America first foreign policy. And that's exactly what President Trump has decided to do today in allowing Iran to have time to come to the negotiating table and come to an agreement that will be America first and be a safe foreign policy for America and the rest of the world.

Well, and Kenny, I think you just encapsulated it there perfectly, that President Trump understands the threat of a nuclear Iran. He has clearly spoken out about this for years, but he also understands the threat of getting America into yet another prolonged war that these neocons, who can't even tell you the population of Iran or what the ethnic groups are,

would do for Americans, American troops or others that got in. Plus, of course, this serious question about whether or not a strike on Iran would be the opening salvo into a greater war. I mean, certainly we can sit there all day long and talking heads can say, oh, it's just a strike on one facility. Well, the enemy always gets a vote.

And so the enemy could perhaps decide that they don't want to see it like that. And they would look at it as a strike into a wider war. So President Trump here pumping the brakes in a really big way, an absolutely stunning way, where I think a lot of people, certainly in the D.C. Beltway, because we have a minute till the break.

Washington, D.C. is a one-industry town, and that industry is government. And a huge portion of the people who work here in this town are funded through war, are funded through the military-industrial complex. And I'm not just talking DOD. I mean the contractors and all the money that gets spread around Washington. So much of this comes through that industry.

that business of war. War is a racket. And along comes President Trump and says, wait a minute, wait a minute,

I want to do less of that. I don't know if these things are always good for the American people. I mean, that's like going into Los Angeles or going directly into Hollywood and saying you don't want to do movies anymore. That's why the town of D.C. and the Beltway hates Trump so much and hates MAGA so much. MAGA wants to be secure. MAGA has no problem using the military on the borders and on the cartels because that's a direct threat to America.

What MAGA has an issue with is getting dragged into another sand trap the same way we did twice under George Bush and his successors. Right back, Real America's Voice. Today, you know, they talk about influencers. These are influencers. And they're friends of mine. Jack Posobiec. Where's Jack? Jack? He's done a great job.

All right, Jack Posobiec, here we are back live, Human Events Daily, here in Washington, D.C., on Real America's Voice. And gosh, I love looking at those giant American flags. Don't they look so good? It's a little bit of a nicer day here in Washington. Yesterday was a bit rough in terms of the weather, but man, did they look good. It just looks right. I'm just saying, it just looks right. Kenny Cody, another thing that looks right is President Trump.

President Trump, yet again, looking all of this down the barrel of a gun, potentially a nuclear barrel, and saying, you know what? I've got strength on my side. I'm going to take the meeting.

Potentially, he's now signaled that the United States will continue negotiations. We know that the NATO meeting is coming up next week. We know that the EU foreign ministers are going to be meeting with Iranian diplomats and potentially their foreign minister in Geneva next week. And Witkoff, of course, also speaking directly with President Trump's special envoy, meeting directly with and speaking directly with the foreign minister of Iran.

And the White House also saying that Iran could come to Washington, D.C. I mean, Kenny, could you imagine any other president actually sitting down and meeting with Iranian officials at the White House?

Absolutely not. Trump has his finger on the button. And most presidents would just press it and say, this is the decision that we're making. We're going to bomb Iran. We're going to end all negotiations. We're not even going to have people come to the table. But

but President Trump is different. He knows the threat and the amount of firepower that the United States military has at its access. We could help Iran out. We could bomb. We could make Iran all glass if we wanted to, but that's not what President Trump wants to do. He knows the risk that there is

in embassies on American bases. He knows that if we struck right now, we would be stuck in Iran for a very long time. Our men and women would be put in danger, in harm's way by the Iranian military and by China, by so many countries that back Iran. We know this. We know that it's exactly what would happen. President Trump knows that's what would happen.

So he has his finger on the button to bring people to the table. And that's exactly what his foreign policy has been over the last 10 years, is to use that strength negotiating power, know that the cards are in our favor, know that we have the power, Iran doesn't. We didn't know that we're not a third world country.

Iran is a third world country. If we look at these negotiations, we know that we have the power. We know that we control the conversation. It is no longer that any other country in the world controls the narrative, controls the conversation, where the power should go, what strikes should there be, who should be negotiating, who should come to the table.

The United States has that. America has that. And that's what President Trump's main focus is. I trust that regardless of what happens over the next two weeks, that President Trump is going to make the right move. And this shows that hesitation, knowing that if we can negotiate our way

into bringing Iran to the table and denuclearizing Iran, that we need to take the opportunity instead of just going into firepower, starting another forever war. And that's exactly what Trump is going to do. He is going to ensure that we stay away from those things and keep our men and women in the military out of the way and future generations from being in a forever war.

Kenny, by the way, you've got this incredible article up about how the No Kings protests seem to have just kind of completely dissipated from the news cycle. It's up at humanevents.com. Walk us through a little bit of that.

Yeah, I mean, there is this, I've already seen the comments on this article. I've already seen the mainstream media try to argue that the No Kings protests were some of the most successful protests of American president history. But let's look at the cities that actually had participation. Chicago, Los Angeles, Sacramento, New York City. You're looking at all these cities that are inherently liberal and inherently leftist in terms of their population that of course, of course,

are going to be anti-Trump because they've always been against Trump. They've always been against any Republican, any conservative, let alone the most significant, impactful conservative of the last 150 years of our country. Of course, you're going to see these outpours and these participations. But where it really mattered and where this dissipated was in these rural districts, in these swing districts, in states like Pennsylvania, Ohio, Florida, and Arizona, you didn't see this escalation.

massing or this huge participation in these protests from cities and states that it actually mattered. Yeah, I'm sure that these violent fires that they're throwing out there, these businesses that are getting broke into, it's a continuation of the LA riots, only it has President Trump's face on them. But the

This was already happening in these liberal leftist cities and protesting mass deportations. This was already happening. This is exactly what the American people think of the Democrat Party. They want to burn down our streets the same way they did in 2020 in BLM. There is this argument that this is some nuanced, unique protest, and it's not. It's the same continuation of leftism the last 10 years.

Kenny Cody, I'm going to be making a special trip to Washington, D.C. He's got some secret meetings. They're so top secret, Kenny won't even tell me what they are. But I hope to get to see you next week there, Kenny. Appreciate you guys. God bless you, brother. I look forward to seeing you. All right, take care. Make sure you follow him, KennyCodyHumanEvents.com. We'll be right back with Real America's Voice. And Jack, where is Jack? Where is Jack? Where is he? Jack, I want to see you.

Great job, Jack. Thank you. What a job you do. You know, we have an incredible thing. We're always talking about the fake news and the bad, but we have guys and these are the guys who should be getting policies. All right, Jack Posobiec, here we are back. Live Human Events Daily. Beautiful live shot of the White House there. You can see those enormous American flags.

Gosh, they look so good. I just love seeing him there. I love seeing him flapping in the breeze right outside the White House where we know President Trump is hard at work right now. We're told that he was having another National Security Council meeting and, of course, signaling that he wants to continue the negotiation process with Iran rather than jump for this immediate strike that

that so many people have been calling for and certainly that people on cable news, both on the left and right, seem to be uniting behind this immediate strike on the Islamic Republic of Iran. I want to bring in now Evita Duffy. She's the host of the early morning edition, early edition of the Bongino Report. She joins us now. Evita, how are you? Thanks for having me, Jack.

Thank you. So, Evita, I've got to get your reaction. And initially, I'd like to hear your immediate reaction to President Trump's announcement of this two weeks for a negotiation period that he would like to hold, but also sort of get your sense on where Gen Z is more broadly on all of this.

Well, I think, Jack, it's obvious that the president is thinking about the future of this country, of what is best for America right now. We have an open border. We have people dying of fentanyl on our streets. We have veterans homeless on the streets. I mean, we are facing really an invasion. This is what President Trump is like to do to address the invasion at our border. And he's saying, look,

I think we want to avoid war with Iran at all costs. That's what MAGA has always been. It has been anti-war, especially anti-forever wars. And so if there is a path for peace, President Trump is going to seek out that path. That is going to be the priority. It always has been for this president. And I think this is why he was elected in the first place. Now, what does Gen Z think about all this? I'll tell you what, Jack, Gen Z is not interested in a war with Iran at all.

But I think it makes a lot of sense because this is a generation that grew up with forever wars in the Middle East. I was born in 1999.

My entire childhood, we were engaged in conflict in Iraq and Afghanistan. And so I think this is a generation that looks at what's happened to our country, sees all of the problems here at home, and wants to avoid another foreign conflict at all costs. And I feel that this is actually where President Trump has always been and the MAGA movement has always been.

So the idea is, I think, that Gen Z is, when they say America first, what they're really talking about is this idea that, look, and I sympathize, too, because you see people, and I think about it, it's like, oh, my gosh. You know, earliest memories are 9-11, and then suddenly America has this huge rush to war in a country that wasn't involved in 9-11. So many people die. So many people are killed.

uh so many wounded warriors coming back their their their faces scarred their limbs blown off fathers and mothers who are never coming home to their children and in fact so many children were never coming home to their mothers and fathers then you got the global financial crisis you've got uh everything with china you've got covet on top of that all the rest and suddenly it's like wait a minute

When is my government going to do something for me now? Now, and and it's sort of like as a, you know, quote unquote, Gen Y or whatever. You know, it's like I can remember a time when the institution sort of made sense and the system sort of worked. And I can remember the collapse. I saw the collapse. I lived through it. But Gen Z doesn't really have that memory, do they?

No, not at all, Jack. And I think it's millennials that are the first generation to inherit an economic future worse off than their parents. Certainly Gen Z has that as well. We look out into the future and you're never going to own a home if you do. We'll own one maybe in our 50s or 60s.

Rent is skyrocketing. It's not keeping up with wages. You have an exorbitant, massive amounts of student debt that people are taking on. There again, like there's an invasion at our border. And this means that the value of labor has dramatically gone down in this country over the years. I mean, there are so many problems facing this next generation and we have been lied to, you're right, by our institutions over and over again, by the media, by our academic institutions, by our own government.

And so this is actually a bipartisan issue. I think left and right, young people in this country do not have faith in the system. And if we can't get our own house in order, if we look out into the future and say, what do we have to look forward to? How can we think about making some place on the other side of the world

better. I think this is a generation that says, let's focus on what's here at home. Let's make our lives better, the American people's lives better. And then we can worry about what's happening across the country or overseas. I mean, this is about priorities. This is actually biblical, right? Take the log out of your own eye before the splinter out of your neighbors. And that is exactly where this generation's at.

Well, no, I think that's exactly right. And, you know, when it comes to Gen Z, then when they hear President Trump has stood up to the war lobby that was calling for these immediate strikes and was saying that we need to go in right, right now, rush, rush, rush, get into another conflict, don't negotiate, don't, and I'm just going to say it, I'm just going to say it, and media wrote me up for saying this on Twitter last night, Mark Levin was demanding that the

that the President of the United States not take any more meetings. He said, no more meetings. No more meetings, Mr. President. You're not allowed to have them. And he's got that...

you know, very shrill voice. And it's, it's interesting because, you know, it's like, Mark, you're, you're, I'm from like 15 minutes from where you're from. Like we don't, you know, you know, like, like you don't have to do that. Just, you know, have some, like have some like hot tea or something. I don't know. And, and it's, you're not the president. Donald Trump is the president. Do you think then that Gen Z is going to look favorably on president Trump's decision to pump the brakes and say, Hey, let's explore all the options here.

Well, Jack, absolutely. And it's not just right-wing Gen Z, although that's certainly true if you look at the new right, the young energy of this party, but it's also people on the political left, young people on the political left that are looking at the situation abroad and saying, we just don't want any part of this. And there's an opportunity, I think, a golden ticket opportunity for Trump to create, and I think he already has, but to truly really cultivate it in the face of this crisis to say, we are a new populist movement that is bringing in people

who might not necessarily be traditional neocon Republicans, might not have even been voting for Republicans in the past. And this is what he's been able to do. And this is what he has an opportunity to continue doing, bringing this coalition of people that is extremely unique, and especially among young people, when they see the bravery. I think there was a soundbite where he said, you know, I don't think we want a war with Iran. And it was

circulating around left-wing TikTok. I mean, there are people who are watching him on the political left, especially among young people saying, this is an opportunity really for us to stand up for peace. And that being said, President Trump also has signaled that what else can be done with those two weeks? Hey, wait a minute, there's this bill that's out there. And I get that people have questions about the spending, and I certainly sympathize with that.

But this goes to funding deportations. And we know that this administration, and Kayleigh McEnany was out last night talking about this, that that's the number one priority for President Trump. And it has been his number one issue for the American people when they look at their list of priorities that are facing them.

Evita, we're doing your Gen Z whisperer analysis for us here on the program. But how does Gen Z view the deportations? Obviously, there's a split, I would imagine, between left and right. But in terms of prioritizations, deporting the 20 to 50 million illegal aliens that are here, how does Gen Z view that?

Well, I think it's a good question, Jack, because I think there's still a political divide on this issue. But I think once you articulate to Gen Z that it's devaluing labor in this country to have massive legal and illegal immigration, they come around because they see that they don't have an economic future. I think what President Trump has been able to do since 2015 is be—

He is very culturally savvy. He is somebody who, even though he's an older guy, is able to articulate the feelings of the people. He's able to have a pulse on the zeitgeist. And this is why what he said on the debate stage about ending the forever wars was so radical, but also so resonant because it was what everybody was feeling.

And I think this is a president that cares about what young people think and want. And I think if he is able to create a deal to make some peace in this critical time, he is going to be deeply respected by young people. And I think he is somebody who really cares about that more than any other president I think ever has cared about where young people are at. This is what this president has been able to do.

And you know what it is? It's the president, and I've seen it a million times, and I've heard it a million times. I've seen it myself on a few brief occasions. He really listens to everyone. It's a superpower that he has that so many people in Washington just don't do. They don't listen. They don't listen. They don't care. They are authoritarian. There's a huge, there's almost a philosophical conversation we could have. We don't have the time for it here, but there's a difference between being authoritarian and authoritative.

So the left is authoritarian. Get your jab or you're going to lose your job or get kicked out of the military or put your mask on. Remember, don't pull it down in between every bite. You've got to pull that mask. That's authoritarian. Authoritative means you're going to make a decision.

And when you make your decision, your decision's final. But you listen. You listen, you take feedback, you understand where people's feelings are, where their interests are, why they care about certain issues a certain way, why what matters to them matters high and matters low, and then he makes that decision based on listening to all sources and not just one or the other. And I really think that that's why

So many people across age groups. And you see this with, I think, the exception of super seniors was the only group in some of the last polling that was anti-Trump, that with every other age group in the last polls that I saw, he was winning in every single one of them. And earlier today, some of the polls came out, and he's still riding very high at 50% or even over 50%. Last minute until the break. To you, Evita Duffy.

Well, I think diversity of thought is really important. It's definitely something that this president values. Jack, something else I want to just add, blessed are the peacemakers and taking a second to step back and say, how can we get to peace? How can we get to a solution here? This is what we're called to do as Christians, to look at a situation and see with eyes unclouded by hate. It can be really emotional. And to have a president say, you know what, we're going to take two weeks off.

We're going to think about this. I'm going to weigh all the options. That's not only a rational thing that a leader does. It's what a Christian is called to do in a situation like that as a third party to diffuse and to have the least amount of loss of life.

And this is something that I think a lot of people are going to say, you know what? Look, we want peace in the world. We don't want threats and nuclear threats, and we don't want rogue regimes and all of these things. But at the same time, the American people also want to know that our interests are the ones that come first, as they should. Jack Posobiec, right back, Human Events Daily.

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out there on Gen Z and really on conservatism as we move into the new age and the new Trump era. David, I've got to ask you about this, that one of the biggest things that I've noticed looking at this Iran conflict is the massive generational split that you do seem to see on this issue. And one of the things that I noticed in the crosstabs of a poll that I was looking at the other day was

It also showed a split in terms of where people get their news from. Do you think that that's something that's driving a lot of the difference of opinion on this issue?

I think that's definitely something that's happening, Jack. If you look at what the mainstream media is, you're in alt media, it's a monolith. There's really not a lot of diversity of thought that's happening. The internet has democratized information and suddenly people who don't have the backing of a major media corporation are able to garner a massive following and create an audience of people who trust them as an individual, as a voice.

And this is where Gen Z is getting their news. And it's radically different from where the boomer generation are getting their news. And I'll say, Jack, I think there's a lot of animosity between the generations. A lot of young people will say, oh, those boomers, or they'll call older women Karens. And a lot of older people get offended by that. I tend to view boomers, frankly, as victims of a system. I don't necessarily blame them, as a lot of young people do. I think the reason that they...

have these opinions about foreign wars or their trust in media that is not very trustworthy, is it's been a long time, generations, decades of psyoping that I think is deeply unfair for the boomer generation. And this newer generation that's waking up and realizing this isn't the America of my parents and grandparents.

And it's going to take some time, I think, for for a lot of them to come over. But I think President Trump actually in 2016 articulating things like, hey, there were no weapons of mass destruction has been an amazing place to start. Well, you know, and I had I had Raheem Kassam on here the other day and we had a conversation about that where we were speaking sort of to Gen Z as, you know, a couple of Gen Y guys saying, look,

We remember what it was like in those early days. I was 17 going on 18 that year, and Raheem was, I think, 16 going on 17, and something like that. And I just remember this war fervor of, you know, we've got to stop Saddam. He's got the WMDs. We're going to be greeted as liberators. He's so evil. He's so bad. And we look at so much that was lost. We look at so much in terms of

The finances, the money, the blood, the treasure, the people that never came back, the people that were broken, and our politics that was completely devastated in this country because there was this horrific event like 9-11 that the neocons came in and then

essentially emotionally manipulated using emotional blackmail to win public opinion to their side. And I'm not saying that's what's going on now, but I am saying that a lot of us view the current world through that lens.

This is maybe maybe I shouldn't share the story. I'm going to share it with you guys. Anyways, I was in I was in D.C. a few days ago and I was talking to somebody in the Trump admin who's who's pretty high up. And my husband made a joke and he said, I don't want to spend my summer in Tehran. It was a joke. And this individual said, well, don't you want to die for your country?

And I think that there's a lot of older individuals, even many in the Trump admin, who think that this generation just isn't patriotic and they don't love America. And that's why they don't want to go overseas and fight for this country. And really what it is, is it is a disconnect between what's happened in the last few decades

and what the perception is among older people. Because there was really nothing accomplished in the Middle Eastern wars that we've had over the last few years. We left our equipment there. Numerous people died on both sides. It was horrific. Christian communities decimated. Not a lot of people know that. Younger Americans are awake to this. And it's not that they're unpatriotic. If there was a real imminent threat coming to this country,

I know that the young boys in America who are in their early 20s, 18, 19, they would go and fight. These are patriotic men. Nothing's changed about that. And that's how they look at the cartels. That's exactly how they look at the cartels and the illegals. Evita, we are just out of time. I'd love to get into that for a much longer conversation. Where can people go to follow you? Where are you posting all of these white hot takes? Awesome. Thanks so much for having me, Jack. You can go to Evita Duffy underscore one on Instagram and on X.

Make sure you're going and following her at Vita Duffy, an incredible voice. My favorite anti-communist, by the way, folks, I just got to say it again. President Trump, at the end of all of this, will deserve the Nobel Peace Prize for blessing other peacemakers. Ladies and gentlemen, as always, you have my permission to play a short.