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Julia Gets Wise with Jane Goodall

2024/10/9
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朱莉娅介绍了简·古道尔及其在黑猩猩研究和环保事业上的杰出贡献，并表达了对与自然和彼此保持联系的重要性。她分享了自己在加拉帕戈斯群岛旅行的经历，以及对野生动物的热爱。 简·古道尔讲述了她如何开始研究黑猩猩，以及她如何克服学术界的偏见，最终发现了黑猩猩使用工具的证据。她分享了她与黑猩猩相处的经历，以及她对黑猩猩社会等级制度和人类行为的观察。她还谈到了她对母亲身份的理解，以及她自己的母亲身份如何影响她对黑猩猩的理解。她认为耐心是她成功的关键，并讲述了她克服困难和挑战的经历。她反思了她第一次婚姻的结束，并认为尽管离婚是她人生中的一大挑战，但它最终带来了积极的结果。她分享了她对动物世界中悲伤的观察，以及这些观察如何帮助她理解她自己的悲伤。她认为她人生的下一个伟大冒险是死亡，并表达了她对未来的希望。她认为她现在的使命是给人们带来希望，并鼓励人们采取行动。 朱莉娅的母亲表达了她对简·古道尔的敬佩之情，并认为简·古道尔的名字本身就预示了她未来的成就。 宝拉与朱莉娅的母亲一起计划了一次露营旅行。 朱莉娅的母亲表达了她对简·古道尔的敬佩之情，并认为简·古道尔的名字本身就预示了她未来的成就。宝拉与朱莉娅的母亲一起计划了一次露营旅行。

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Jane Goodall recounts the pivotal moment when she observed chimpanzees making and using tools, challenging long-held scientific beliefs.
  • Chimpanzees were observed making and using tools, previously thought to be unique to humans.
  • Dr. Louis Leakey's famous telegram acknowledged the need to redefine 'man' or 'tool'.
  • This discovery led to increased funding and interest from National Geographic.

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On the Season 3 premiere of Wiser Than Me, Julia sits down with visionary scientist and conservationist Jane Goodall. Jane shares her reflections on turning 90 (spoiler: she’s just getting started) and what she considers her next great adventure will be. The pair also discuss Jane’s trailblazing work in Gombe, and how she uses storytelling to drive change. Plus, Julia and her 90-year-old mom, Judith, discuss the thrilling prospect of surviving a camping trip, courtesy of Julia’s bestie, Paula—because what better way to bond than trying to survive in the wilderness?

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