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朱莉娅·路易斯-德莱弗斯在节目中分享了她职业生涯中的挑战与收获,包括在《周六夜现场》的经历,以及她对喜剧和戏剧表演的看法。她还谈到了自己主持的播客《比我更聪明》以及从采访年长女性中学到的经验。她认为,这些女性对自己感到舒适和自在,这给了她们自由去做自己想做的事情。 英娜·加滕作为节目主持人,与朱莉娅一起制作了巧克力蛋糕,并分享了一些烘焙技巧。她还介绍了朱莉娅的职业生涯和成就,并对朱莉娅的才华和个性表达了赞赏。 英娜·加滕在节目中分享了她制作法式乡村早餐的经验,并详细介绍了朱莉娅·路易斯-德莱弗斯的职业生涯和成就。她还与朱莉娅一起制作了巧克力蛋糕,并教朱莉娅如何使用裱花袋装饰蛋糕。她对朱莉娅的才华和个性表达了赞赏,并鼓励听众对节目进行评分和评论。

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Why did Julia find her experience on Saturday Night Live challenging?

Julia was very young when she joined SNL at 21 and was there for three years. She didn't succeed in any significant way, but she learned what she didn't want: a tense work environment and unhappiness. This experience helped her realize the importance of finding work that makes her happy.

How did Julia connect with Larry David, leading to her role in Seinfeld?

Julia and Larry David connected through their mutual misery during their final year on SNL. A couple of years later, Larry contacted her about working on a show called Seinfeld, which became a significant part of her career.

What is the common thread among the older women Julia interviews on her podcast, Wiser Than Me?

The common thread among the older women Julia interviews is their complete comfort in their own skin, which provides them with a sense of freedom to do exactly what they want.

What was the toughest time in Julia's career?

The toughest time in Julia's career was after her stint on SNL, where she was pounding the pavement for work. She nabbed a pilot but didn't go to series. Another challenge was the juggling act of being a mother and becoming famous while making Seinfeld.

How does Julia describe the feeling of making people laugh?

Julia describes making people laugh as like endorphins you can taste, emphasizing the joy and connection that comes from sharing a laugh with someone.

What does Julia's father's art collection represent?

Julia's father's art collection represents his love for art and his interest in the outsider art world. He collected what he loved, regardless of what others might think, and eventually donated his entire collection to benefit the Harlem Children's Zone.

What was the recipe for the French country omelet that Ina Garten made for Julia?

Ina Garten's French country omelet started with four large eggs cooked until just set, then added potatoes cooked in the leftover fat from the bacon, and finished with a bit of salt and pepper.

How does Julia describe the experience of being herself on her podcast, Wiser Than Me, compared to playing characters?

Julia describes being herself on her podcast as a different kind of experience that doesn't feel like a performance. The relaxed nature of recording over Zoom adds to the intimacy of the conversations.

What was the key takeaway for Julia from her time on SNL?

The key takeaway for Julia from her time on SNL was learning by not succeeding. She realized she didn't want a tense work environment or to be unhappy, which guided her towards finding work that made her happy.

How did Julia handle being pregnant while working on Seinfeld?

Julia handled her pregnancies on Seinfeld by standing behind things or carrying boxes to hide her pregnancy. By the second time, no one seemed to care, and it was just part of the show.

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Julia Louis-Dreyfus discusses her early career and the lessons she learned from her time on Saturday Night Live.
  • Julia joined SNL at 21 and was the youngest member in history.
  • She didn't find success immediately but learned valuable lessons from her experiences.
  • Her time on SNL led to a connection with Larry David, which eventually resulted in her role in Seinfeld.

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Hello, there it's Julia. As you know, we love and a garden here IT wives than me. I mean, I love you, love I, me, who doesn't love face, who does not love and a garden.

And did you know that I has got a podcast now, it's appropriately named be my guest with inner garden because on each episode a friend of hers, R S V P, as to go out her house in the hamptons for a day to cook and hang out in her garages, kitchen and home. And in some of the episodes, there's a surprise visit from her lovely husband, jeffrey, too. And I had the thrill of being invited this season and we're going to play IT for you in just a second.

But I really, I have to tell you, IT was such a delightful day for real. There was no fake in IT IT was just like total bliss being with her. And now I know how to frost a cake correctly and I know what kind of kitchen countertops i'm going to get from my kitchen.

So win, win. Didn't get Better. That head on over to be my guess, without a garden, wherever you get your podcast to hear some other guests who are we pid? Yes, to. But before doing that, lets listen to my episode.

And I mind a garden. I love to invite interesting people in my house for good food, great conversation and lots of fun. The incredible eleven time any award winning actor, comedian and producer gilgal li dice is coming to the barn. We're sharing a french helmet.

and I have the big .

cat talking life, love and laughs.

It's like endorphins you can taste.

Then we're falling rms frosting.

don't make me laugh, ruin my cake.

making an amazing trip cake, and I Better watch out.

Look good here to take over.

Be my guest.

What .

SHE is move jam. My guess is july, we dry us. I mean, who doesn't love her? So I know he likes eggs and I know he likes big, and so going to make her my french country on let and IT starts with four sizes are big. And then I cooked until Chris is just can take them out.

put them on a plate and then .

we're going to do and a little bit of fat that's left. I'm going to cook some potatoes. I mean, who wouldn't like that? Eggs, potatoes, bacon, you.

This actually comes from the recipe from a beeston paris that I love. Okay, let's a sam pepper. And that's gona cook for about eighty ten minutes, until the potatoes, Christy, on the outside and tender and while they cook.

Let me tell you about my insanely talented and beloved guest. Do you? Will we drive this?

The incredible actor, comedian and producer is one of the greatest performance at TV history, winning eleven. M. S.

Born in new york, SHE divided her time, living with her stepfather and mom, writer and her french entrepreneur and philanthropist father. Julia studied later northwestern, where he met her husband, fellow canadian brad hall, at just twenty one. SHE was discovered by snl, the Youngest member in history there, SHE melt Larry David.

And three years later he joined him. And Jerry sign failed to play the beloved character alane. And sign felt, where SHE won her first emmy and went on to win a golden globe and five screen actors awards.

SHE won her second M. I for her hit T V series the new adventures of old Christine, while picking up a star on the hollywood walk of fame. In twenty twice, the political santa of vee hit our screens where he played vice president selena mayor, a role SHE won six consecutive ams four.

It's no wonder he has received the coveted mark twin Price for american humor. Her range also extends to incredible dramatic roles in movies such as enough said, you hurt my feelings and choose SHE lives in california with her husband, brad and two sons. I have nurses virtually on a hugely successful podcast why is than me and I can't wait to meet her in person .

SHE just does .

IT all doesn't SHE she's got comedic roles and dramatic roles and streaming and movies. She's the real deal amazing. okay? The potatoes are cooked.

Nothing like the smell. Bacon and potatoes. I'm going to potatoes on the plate.

and now I want .

to get the egg. So i've got five eggs. This is .

going to beat them.

three tablespoons of milk. What's some paper? Someone put a little button on the pan, just let IT melt. Okay, eggs go win, just like.

That so next time of the potatoes, bacon, but I want to mix them up and then all the trips always looks good at a little onion flavor to IT. I mean, that is pretty good. Does IT okay? It's going to put this in the other three hundred and fifty degrees for eight minutes, just until the exercise. I'll be ready when Julie gets here.

Okay, I am so excited because i'm in the Hiltons and i've been invited to buy a garden sales to help her make a chocolate cake. He needs my help. guys. SHE needs my help. already.

So how much are they asking for this place? What if SHE isn't here? Would not the hilarious? Are you guys pumping me? Did SHE not show? Is this not IOS house? I swear to god, if this is some sort of joke, it's funny. I know. Kk, well, i'm cooking in here no matter whose house IT is.

Oh.

how good does that look? That smells just as good. I understand Julie, his bigger fan, as sault as I am. So I think good can see, sell to be perfect on IT two plates and a .

mall set for Julia china. China, joy, china, you're hair.

of course, on here. where? Where else is what I think?

I thought maybe you .

were pumping me. I would never punk y you come on. Oh.

my goodness.

That is.

So wait a minute before anything happens. I've brought you something. He brought me something I did. It's a little .

house sift love tomorrow lab yeah.

That we plant in our and is the fruit from the very first? Well, I love you.

Thank you. I can't wait. I've major an armlet. Well, you .

something .

with bacon and potato, something nice and light for breakfast, perfect. No, serious. This a large enough piece. Can I?

Can I have the big gap? You like sot, right? yeah. I mean, just everything you want to just pour the salt on the plate and i'll eat the sault. You did give me the bigger please give you the bigger yeah .

so what's that like instead of playing a character actually being yourself on wise than me?

Oh, it's a different .

bulk total different isn't ent yeah in what way?

Um .

well.

It's not a performance. I mean, I know IT is like, but he doesn't feel like one at all. And also you know we do we do the podcast over zoom.

And um so there's something kind of relaxed about IT is resume. One of them we did in person for a variety of reasons when we talk to carper nett. But other than that, everybody is one zone. And I think just because you get to be in your own house, you don't have to put on hair and makeup even though this is how we look.

Norm always look like this. I get like this. I I mike myself first and morning.

But anyway, so sort of genders a kind of intimacy in conversation, which is what we're going for.

But also I think is interesting because when you're because you really connect with people.

yeah that's i'm .

trying to when you do you really do and when you playing a character, you're not really connecting with analytics, you're playing a character. So I think connecting with people is what we love to do and it's just really satisfying yeah.

although I agree with that. But the thing is too is that when you're playing a role, you're actually also .

connected necking with the other character.

Yeah it's a different kind of there has to be an authenticity in place as well. But anyway, now wait to IT.

What is this? It's belgian.

It's belching granet. Okay, I need a list. I'm taking this with me.

You'll have a hard time getting that. It's fine.

You'll be able to replace IT after i'm gone.

You'll figured that if it's missing on the word is coming up wisdom, I didn't .

really succeed in any kind of way there except to say i'd learned by not seed .

wise cracks.

You know what you need in the kitchen? No paper toles and chocolate .

cake is a fantastic. You know, people ask my friends what's going to really like and my closest friend or he said, well, she's exactly the way you think he is, but her language is worse. nice.

What would your friends say about you? Exactly what you just thoughts? Yes.

exactly.

What do you think that you always meant to be a comedian? Or is that just like an in your DNA?

I think it's in my DNA, certainly in the culture of our family. You know, funny. My mother was funny. My grandmother was funny. My dad was very funny.

Do you remember making them laugh when you were what you do?

When I was really little, I was trying to make my mom laugh, and I stuck raisons up my nose and he laughed, just like, that is so funny. And then he said, OK take them out and I held them and we had to go the emergency. But I was totally y worthy because I get the less.

I had a very complicated childhood.

childhood and my parents were divorced, and I went back in the between the two homes. But I was really raised by my mom, and's stepfather but I was this was back when divorce was like.

yeah.

IT wasn't did dime a dozen and IT was wise IT to .

jail force but you still had your mother and your step father to ground you yes, I did so in one thousand nine hundred and eighty five, when you weren't, we're knowed ssl. What did you learn from that experience most?

Well, I went to s very Young. Yes, I was twenty one and I was there for three years. And I didn't really succeed in any kind of way there except to say, I I learned by not succeeding, and I learned what I didn't want.

I didn't want a tense work environment. I didn't want to be unhappy. And I thought to myself, well, if I can't find work that's happy making like the work I was doing in chicago in theater, I don't think i'm going to do this because it's not right for me.

I always think some of the worst things that ever happened turn out to be the best.

That's right. Because my final year on essene, Larry David, was the writer there for one year. He was deeply miserable hair.

He was more miserable than you.

and I was deeply miserable. And so we connected to through our misery. And then a couple of years later, I heard from him about this. So he was working on that was called the sign field chronic. And and the rest history.

how does this feel to make people people laugh?

It's like endorphins you can taste. That's a good description. I would say that the that of sharing a laugh with someone is like another kind of language. A very good at just a great way to live life, just wonderful.

is IT hard to play roles that are both dramatic and funny at the same time.

Well, first of all, doing a, playing a role that both community and dramatic is where I live.

I really love IT.

So I because .

that's life. Yeah, that's how we live a hater movie. That's just all do one thing.

Yeah, exactly. I wouldn't describe one as being harder than the other. You know I have to I really enjoy doing dramatic work that has sort of maybe a commuted shell over IT. Finding those roles is can sometimes be a chAllenge, but when I find them.

I died in head first. One of my favorite quotes of all time is Oscar wild said, work as easy fun as hard. I always run my business if i'm having fun, everybody also, I have fun to yeah.

And I think on my right that you would do the same thing out. Questions know what to do for work. They know how to do their jobs. But finding something that's fun to do, I think it's much harder.

isn't IT.

yeah. But if you find that exactly, if you find IT going and you found IT, it's a soul and it's IT has so much energy and positivity is fabula tell me about your recent movie tuesday it's sort of .

an adult fairy tale the story centers around a mother and a daughter and the daughters quite ill and um so he has a lot of paths to IT but it's magical and but it's completely fanciful so I think people might really enjoy IT. I hope you like, I am sure I will.

What was the toughest time in your career?

Well, getting employed that there was a period of time where I was after S, L. M. At, which is about a one, two year period, three year period, in which I was, you know, I was really pounding pavement.

I nabb a pilot, which is the first episode of A T V. series. But then I didn't go to series. The other chAllenge for me in my career has been the juggling act, because while I was making sign fight, for example, I gave birth to both my children, super chAllenging you, but also fabulous, because I was becoming very famous at this time. Yeah, and IT really kept all of that in perspective.

IT, is that interesting? And they put you behind the power plant so they couldn't .

see that you're a pregnant yeah, when let's see the first go around. Ah yes, I stood behind things. I Carried boxes. Ea, by the time I was pregnant, the second time, nobody cared and we IT was like IT wasn't happening. We just out of, I walked in, I was out to hear and no one said me.

In twenty twelve you created the character of celina in vab, who is both egm, I echo, and kind of crazy yeah and kind of delusional in some way, right? Totally reasonable. yeah.

She's in a position of power, but it's quite there yet.

That's so smart .

and so you know you think you've made a million .

and nobody cares.

So so I know that there was so much to be so much material could be mind from that position.

talked into room in the present one .

hundred percent.

Just love that certainly answers always. No.

I was just the most exhilarating experience because there was a lot of improve sation and a lot of goofing around that got folded in to the show. And IT was all caps, fun.

all cap. Is that great? Yes, in your podcast, wider than me, you interview older women. What if you learn from them? That was interesting.

The big take away for me is that all of the women, including yourself, there is a common thread. And the common thread is complete comfort in their own skin.

Isn't that interesting.

And that is very freeing.

And it's like rocket feel that really gives you freedom to do exactly what you want to do. That's right. But don't you think that a lot of your guests were that way when they're a Young actually not necessarily yeah like ane founder and .

say that he was like that jane fonda said it's so hard .

to be Young yeah and I think.

yeah oh my god, he is so right.

I love that epson because in the little and up the bomb cyclone and you ve got discontent and you handled that so beautiful ly, which I was scream that .

the universe IT was so crazy, but IT became like a .

character in the show. And IT was just brilliant. Ly, done.

I will say that in in the second season of the show in which you are and we have another tele snaps. U.

and i'm sure you handled that the same way well.

Anyway, let's just say the audience gets another taste or by the see.

You made a wonderful documentary that I adored about your late father and his kind of wacky art collection, right? Yeah.

my father was an art collector, and he, a massed quite a collection.

describe his art collection because this wild, right?

He was a sort of a tour to a lot of the artists whose work key collected and was very interested in the sort of the outsider art world. He got to know people like jack mei and dubai, people like that. My father was french, french in american, both. And so anyway, he just my father, I think of him as a sort of, he was a harder, but a harder of really nice thing.

whatever that he collected, what he love, and he collective collect what other people would love, what he loved.

what he loved exactly.

And I love what he did with that.

What he did with that was, yes, he's set up his collection in such a way so and he has become fed the entire collection um to the harland children's zone, its most magnificent school. And so what the whole idea is to raise the awareness about the collection, we are slowly selling IT down to benefit the harland children's zone in we'd been my father past in two thousand and sixteen, and we've been since he's past. We have been, in fact, doing exactly that. And w, yeah.

so I understand you like chocolate cake. Would you like me to show you how to ice chocolate cake?

If you don't show me i'm going to kill you.

then i'm definitely going to show you. I give up, coming up, competitive cake making.

This is our first .

site with incredible results.

I can talk to you. I got to eat this. And we're back. I'm just Hillary drive this and I with I A garden minner kitchen and she's evidently going to show me you had to do something .

you like chocolate cake, right? Love IT. Okay, I picked the right thing. So i'm going to show you how to make a chalk ate cake with chocolate buttercream. K, and we're going get IT all over ourselves.

i'm sure. Now, wait, in IT, how did this happen?

Well, i'm going to show you how do I did IT. The cake is really easy. First, I sifted together one and three quarter cups of all purpose flower, two cups of sugar, three quarters of a cup of good coco powder, two, two prints of big soa, a teased phone of bacon powder and a teased phone, of course, assault.

And I put the dry ingredients into the bowl of my electric mixer. Next to wet mix. I combine a half a cup of vegetable oil, a cup of buttermilk and two extra large gs, plus one teaspoon of piano extract and mixing together.

And with a mixer on low, I headed the wet ingredients to the dry ingredients, plus a cup of freshly brewed hot coffee. And next to all together, then I pour the batter into two eight inch panes that had been buttered flowers and line with parchment into the oven three hundred and fifty degrees for thirty five to forty minutes. Then I took them out to cool in their pants for thirty minutes before transfering them to a cooling rack OK.

So that's the cake. yeah. Now the frosting over over the best in charge.

And yeah, two sticks of button insulted butter. Yeah, don't know. I can put that in yet. Can I just drink? You can do that.

You can forget the I think OK, we're going turn this on yeah, that's going we're going to put in one egg. Should I do IT? You should just do IT.

And if you don't want to use an ego you don't have, this is a good, but I just Better. You told me too late. Exactly one teasing of vanilla, yes.

And this is really strong coffee. It's a tablets of instant coffee grounds. okay. And then slowly, this is one in the quarter of clubs of safety conference sugar, yes. And just so we just put IT in, shh, I don't .

grow .

IT up. Screw IT up. I going too fast.

No, don't just fine. Okay, that's why I shifted. So it's like the one clock.

How important do you .

think shifting is for real? Actually, you know what like shifting is because I know when you shifted, it's every cup is exactly like every other cup, yes. So IT lightens IT.

So you know, can be really packed in some times. You can light, yes, yes, yes. Same amount of right infection, sugar every time or flower for that.

A far right, exactly. Actually like flower, I don't shift in. Only do I put a cup and a lightened and unless it's scoop t what does that mean? Lightning just got fluff IT out. You like, ffs.

excuse for you.

Different kind of lofer. SHE doesn't .

know what she's say.

SHE is no idea.

poor dear.

Even into the hamptons or four.

right? Yeah, when I was like three.

really you have been vaccine. Cce.

the story goes that my mom took me down to the hamp ton. I was at the beach. SHE was talking to a friend. He looked over, I was button ked running around and talking everybody. I taken all my closer, and this was, you know, one thousand nine hundred and sixty four.

because i've heard people talking .

about IT adorable naked little girl reading around, yeah.

that was me. And then this is six sounds of ma chop melted and we're good. That's the, I think, yeah, you read ice cake. Yeah K, I show you.

how does this sink workers at a prop sink? no. You know what you need in this kitchen paper tiles? Have you really paper tows?

It's a prop. Tel, okay.

next we're going to ice the cake. Yeah, ready? yeah. Let let's go.

And we're having a terrible time. As you can imagine.

it's really one of the worst says of my life.

So the first thing is you take the chocolate cake that we made before, yeah and put IT on the cake stand. And I put IT on a rotating stance so we can turn IT around when we ice IT. I love IT, so the trick to kick him play clean as I use partial paper or wax paper and just put IT underneath the cake, and then you to clean up the plate if you make a mess with the icing, just put underneath there, always around smart.

So now you want to put some frosting on the, do you want to make sure you have enough of the outside too? Yeah, for kidding. And we can always make more.

We've got, we've got our whole lives is ahead of us.

It's a great having a turn table. Oh my god, I love you so much. I think I need more frosting in here.

I think I do IT OK really. This is a that looks perfect. Okay, excuse me, but I think you really know what you're doing. You know what? What i'm here and here .

to take over.

Okay, okay. And the second one i'm going to put on upside down yeah because you .

want the top to be reit .

fat looks more professional. It's couldn't sticky.

What's your technique for this moment?

I do the sides first. First at the top. I want to .

watch you because you're here to teach me.

So take this battle and just do a thing there. And the key is you don't go back and force, if you go back and force over the cake, what happens? Crimes just like this, just smooth IT in one direction. And then then we'll smooth the whole thing when we're done. Just get the icing on first.

I'm .

watching. You're watching. Okay, how do you decorate cakes? What do you like to do?

I'm not I mean, I certainly appreciate cake decorating, but usually when i'm making a cake, like if I make my sons orange cake, I decorate IT with Mandarin oranges on to love that yeah .

you know what that is yeah it's just what I Y thing to eat. Yeah exactly.

And then if it's a cake, ke often just really have really crumbly pick cans and just put that here.

which is in the cake. Exactly right?

That's exactly what I what about you do?

Anything else you do, you do you? What about flowers? You ever .

put flowers, actual flowers, on a eating .

cake maybe, but not a regular cake, I know. yeah. And they can be centers flowers.

So I want to take the spatula. I'm going to put the rest of IT on time and just smooth out. Yes, you may. I insist, in fact. And then .

I say how .

i'd .

like to .

pipe IT look at, okay. So how about turning on the hot tap water? Yes, and say what they do, a one of the special and then you going to smoove IT all out. Okay, just a little bit, just enough. So that is a little smoother.

Jord have their sea. It's a miracle.

And then just run your statal around the edge and you have a nice square edge. How is that? And you get to look that.

no, i'm in entia.

It's not fantastic. Thank you. okay. So you want to pipe IT, I have some icing in a piping bag just for you. So this is the way I I learn how to do piping. Just on the board can just do you like that and when and when you're comfortable with that will do another cake.

okay?

I think I have to have a heavy your .

hand with IT here. Also.

what I do in order to do a shell. And you know, we can do to, we can do IT just, just start with that. easier. Won't do that.

Oh, sure. But i'd also like to learn to, okay, yeah, okay. Well, that's easy, easy.

That's easy. And the other one is like a shell, show you what you do. You start here and you go up and down and then up, up and down.

Ah oh, I see 他说 that's what this is。 That is up and down.

up and then you stop and then starting again.

You're doing okay. You do not doing okay. I'm not doing okay.

So up, down and then stop the lift, the bag stop. That's what IT takes time. IT takes time to figure IT down, up and down that look at that stop. perfect. Now you got IT yes, there's like a rythm to IT up and down.

Yeah i'm getting there.

Ah say, yeah IT took me like forty years to get that. So i'd say in like five minutes you did pretty well and pretty well.

Okay, am I doing later? I'll stuck.

Yah, i'll do IT around the edge. You start here and you go up and down and then up, up and down.

Ah oh, I see how. So you really lift IT. You right?

You right? You've got IT look that fabulous, fabulous ous. There's like rythm to IT. I mean, how good does this look up and down?

Oh, guy.

got IT. You're going to go home and started take that ring business in your spare time. Oh, hundred percent.

I've got all the .

paperwork doing up.

Don't make me lap to ruining my cake.

okay? So will show you what to do in order to take the paper out. Just run your knife along the bottom just like this, and just pull IT down.

That is so clever.

and I have a clean place. Right, here we go, you big piece, little peace, or that look like classic feeding hard. One for me, one for you.

Thank you.

cheers. cheers.

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