Trisha Speaks Out + James Charles Needs To Be Stopped...
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Her name is Trish, she's got the fish and all the gossips, filthy rich, pretty and pink, hot topic queen and says what everybody thinks, she's just Trish. Hello everyone and welcome to the Just Trish Podcast. It's a beautiful day here in California, it's overcast but it is beautiful, not too rainy, kind of...

The perfect day, if you will. We're feeling so festive. We got cinnamon rolls sent to us from All About That Cinnamon. We have our rainbow flag made from one of our viewers at the Heirs of Trish tour, which continues this weekend in Portland, Phoenix. And May 4th, here in Los Angeles at the Greek Theater, gender reveal. Is the bun in the oven blue or is the bun in the oven pink? I know. All About That Cinnamon Roll sent that.

Yeah, they're pretty cute. Trisha's bun in the oven. I love it. So we'll see. Not that it matters. We don't see gender here. And speaking of, we got the Protected Doll shirt. We had a discussion about this a couple weeks ago. This is a knockoff, but the original shirt was to raise money for Trans Lifeline. So on behalf of the Just Church podcast, we donated $10,000 to Trans Lifeline. Yay! They're wonderful. The more I looked into this, yes. Round of applause for Trans Lifeline. Donate if you can. We'll put the link below. Yay!

They made these amazing shirts that all went to it, but they sold out so quickly. Yeah, they're literally on backorder for months. Yes, and it's beautiful. It's wonderful. At first, I was just like, oh my God, I love it. Love the message. It's cute. But what Trans Lifeline does is actually so important. And each donation, $25, will connect a trans person to a peer. Because it's all ran by the trans community. So you get peer-to-peer support. They offer resources. I think...

$450 can help someone change their ID. Like just that's the fee it costs to change. So there's just so many different resources, obviously for protection, for mental wellbeing, for physical wellbeing, make sure all their needs are taken care of. In a crazy time right now in 2025, it's really sad that like basic human rights are at risk, but Trans Lifeline is doing amazing, amazing work. So when I like looked into it, I was like,

Because I got the shirt and then when you said the knockoff, I didn't know the original shirts went to a charity. So I was just like, okay, let's look into it. And then I was like, this is amazing and beautiful. So if you can, donate. We love it. Protect the dolls. Protect all trans people and all humans. That's what it is at the end of the day. You know what I mean? So we're here and we're queer and we love it. Okay. Speaking of, hi. Speaking of queers. Speaking of queers. You look great. I love this.

I reheated Not Loved Lines nachos. I took the upholstery off that little sofa on the set and I made a little hoodie. I'm wearing my I Heart Tana Mongeau shirt. I was thinking, I hope there is no international scandal with Tana with the wine lady because I think that was her last big scandal, right? Was that in Europe? That was in Europe, yeah. So no wine tours overseas, Tana. Let's avoid those. Avoid hydrangeas. Don't jinx it. After we film, it's always like right after we film, something happens. I feel like she's been low-key. She's been solo.

solo key. Right? Yeah. I feel...

Europe sounds crazy, though, to go to. Just all her stories in the hospital and the airports. I mean, it all just sounds a lot. Yes. Although her photo shoot in front of the Eiffel Tower with Makoa was something fierce. I loved it. I know. And then she was – everyone thought they were engaged or pregnant. Yeah, she had to shut that down. She did. I liked her message day on TikTok where she was like, the RU Engage is the new, like, go brunette. Like, everybody just wants them to get married. She's like, we're just dating for a year and a half. Like, let us enjoy dating. That's true. It weirdly feels so much longer than it – yeah, it really has only just been a year and a half.

and a half and they're young they're like 26 and you know what i'm guilty of this too i'm always like when are you gonna get married it's like you let people just date forever if they want honestly yeah i love it and then did you just have a cheetah sweater i've never seen you in cheetah and i love it yeah i um got this from uh shane dawson's favorite store abercrombie and fitch yeah yeah oh my god psychic that's crazy i literally it does look really good recently or a while ago

A couple months ago, yeah. I'm going to see if it's still online. You are giving Shane, Joel Goldberg, and Tana all in one today. Okay, work.

I had to contemplate that combination. But yeah, sure. I love it. No, I love this whole combo. You are looking so cute in your Converse and all of that. We're doing Patreon later. Patreon.com slash Jess Trish. We're answering your Q's and A's. Are we going to try the McCrispy strips today? I think so. Jimmy suggested that as well, actually. Did he? Yes. But I don't want to give you his opinion on the McCrispy tenders. He didn't like it. So we don't, you know, influence our own opinions. Okay. So maybe we should order some backup.

nuggets just in case. Just in case, maybe. Because I know when you don't like something, it's just like, oh. Yeah, sometimes their nuggets don't hit. They had a spicy nugget not too long ago and it wasn't everything. So it may not hit the same. I always get backup food just in case. That's smart. Yeah. What do you think I had?

I don't know if that's smart or just the fatty in me, but you look great. You look so cute. Oh, thank you. It's been quite a morning. I started my physical therapy, decompression therapy on my spine. It's kind of crazy. It kind of feels like a Jewel Sparkles bionic spine kind of thing because they strap you in a machine and stretch you out, basically. Oh, my gosh. Yeah. So you're going to get taller? Yeah.

Weirdly, I did get – my right side was like almost – not half an inch, less than half an inch, a quarter of an inch, I guess. It was half an inch or a quarter inch shorter. Wow. So, yeah, I did get that sorted out as well. Shorter? Yeah. It's quite crazy. I don't know. How are you feeling? Does it hurt? Are you in pain? Uh.

It feels funny. I have, like, a little back brace and everything, too. It's... Right now? Not right now. I took it off to film because it's intense. It is, like... It does give me good posture, though, but it kind of is, like, a core set in a way. So I do feel kind of cunty in it. Yeah, like, really...

Yeah. It keeps me up straight. You look like you have a corset. You look so tiny. No, just spanks right now. Thank you. You look great. Okay. You look so tiny. I mean, not to whatever, but you look so skinny. I think it's the baggy jeans and then the baggy hoodie definitely helps. Proportionizing, for sure. I do. I always say that. I oversize. I'm a 3X everything. I love it. For our audio listeners, I do look extra teeny. Just start lying to the audio listeners. I know. I know. Just tell them. No, but you are. Yeah.

You're extra teeny. It's also very Shane coded. I saw Shane this morning on a TikTok. I know everyone's like, oh my gosh, Shane, I'm sorry. It's with my algorithm. He did another one with that guy. You know the one where he was interviewed in the mall? Yeah. I think it's the same guy. Was it the same guy? Seems like it. Same person. You'd be odd if it's not. Taco Bell. And he was like, what's your Taco Bell order? And it's Shane standing with like a Baja Blast in his like bag. And then he gives the Baja Blast and goes through the bag of what he ordered. And he was...

And I can say that because Shane will take that as a compliment. One thing I know about Shane is skinny is a compliment to him. He looks great. I think especially too...

Everything else aside, just knowing, like, lifelong struggles with weight and then, like, getting to a place where you feel comfortable. He's comfortable enough where he gets, like, dressed cute and, like, go out and be seen full body on camera. Full body. As a former, still struggling, you know, with weight and seeing someone like that. I'm like, wow, good for him that he is. Yeah. He feels good. Like, you can tell he feels good. Yes. I feel like that as a Remy Joe. I'm like, you know what? I know they feel fire. Can I say, I know I talk a lot about my insecurity about my weight, but I'm

I always feel fire. I always feel like I want to show full body. Love. I mean, sometimes I like look back and I'm like, oh, I don't know why. But I love a full body moment. I don't know. Even on this, I like show my entire body. I'm like, I kind of like the way I look sometimes. You should. Yeah. You definitely should. It's such a weird thing, though, from going to like hating how you look to be like, I look really good. And then it's just like, I don't know. That's such a mind. Like, it's like, wait, why do I like the way I look?

I look good. I don't know what to say. Maybe I'm wearing baggy shirts. I don't know why. There is something about the psychology of the oversized. Yeah. I feel like so teeny tiny. That's like I like I'm going to be crisscross applesauce up here. I'll just be like, oh, my God, look how small I am. Let me see. Yeah, you are. Wow. OK. Oh, my God. While pregnant. While pregnant. While pregnant. Yes. That is hard to get the belly over. But I'm feeling teeny tiny.

And I'm not teeny tiny. For the audio listeners, I'm not teeny tiny. But it's a state of mind and I think that's all that matters. Yes. I think that was one of the first things we said in episode one of Just Trish that skinny legend is a state of mind. And honestly...

Absolutely. Years later, that sentiment still stands. Yes. People shout it all the time to me during my like fat chicks era. They're always just like, you're a skinny legend. And I was like, love it. Even though we're talking about fat and body positivity. I'm like, yes, absolutely. What I noticed, I know we talked about you last time, but what I noticed, we just started watching it. Yesterday was our day off. Okay, Fish King. Tin Fish King. Who sent that to you? Is that from the tour? Nothing.

actually kind of cool. A viewer sent it to me to give it to Moses. Shout out Jeffrey. He also made me a rainbow Birkin. No way. Where is it? It's in my streaming room. It's part of my streaming set now. Oh my god, you have to bring it. I should, yes. That's so iconic. Okay, love that. Shout out. That's actually everything. We started watching you yesterday because we already have so we've like binged like six episodes. Never can get a fatty in that box, I'll tell you that. He never puts a plus size gal in there. Oh my god, T. He could never catch me.

You're actually so right. I'm really trying to think, right? There hasn't been... No. Never. Has there even been a plus on the streets of New York or London or LA? Greg Berlanti, executive producer, is like, no fat people on this show. Oh my God. But it makes sense because when he clunked

Spoiler alert. I don't know. He clung someone on the head to drag them into the... I guess that happens every season, really. To drag them to the box. I was thinking about that. I was like, how's he going to get her in the box? Grinch is a small person, but he is also petite. So I was thinking about that. I'm like, if he clucks me in the head, could he move me to the box? That is a good plot hole because we never really see Joe Goldberg work out or lift or train, but he does carry a lot of dead weight. Literally, yeah. In the past seasons, he's like...

brought down a lot of really big guys too. That is so true. How strong is Joel Goldberg? That is a good question. Yeah, we should look into it. But I would survive him. Also probably wouldn't even be interested in me because he always liked the petite girls on the show, which I'm fine.

Reference is okay, by the way. You don't always have to like a fat person. I'm just saying. It would be nice for me to be in new season five. I didn't get the role. I love it. It's over now? It's done? Yes, it is officially done. No. I was thinking it would be kind of messed up, but I was thinking maybe down the line because, you know, they love a reboot. I was like, I feel like you could almost do a reboot with Henry. Spoiler alert, spoiler alert, spoiler alert for you season five.

Pregnant pause to give people time. Pregnant pause. I've never heard that term. Pregnant pause. But I could almost see like Henry being like a little Joe Goldberg-esque. I guess it is like the nurture versus nurture development, but both his parents are killers. Yeah. And he was abandoned by them. Yeah. It does seem like a recipe for disaster. That's true. Or he'll become a detective.

I love that more, Moses. The opposite of what it was. Serial killer. Stop the cycle. Yeah. Okay, work. That's a good idea. The positivity aspect of it. You never know. They are rebooting Desperate Housewives. See, yeah. Mysterio Lane. This is your opportunity if I've ever seen it. I'm excited. Do we know if it's like in this era or is it supposed to be like a different decade? I don't know if they've said like what time period it is. Like if it's modernized or if it's still like the time where Desperate Housewives ended. I don't know.

I also heard it was going to be like a 60s one. Like they were going to go back to the original Serial Lane and like when it first started. I couldn't be more excited for this. I like actually couldn't be more excited for this show more than anything in the whole world. Like –

Desperate Housewives was our show. We probably watched it twice through the all every season. I had Moses dress up as every single person, Orson, everybody. Like whoever he was, I was like, you're gonna dress up as the person. We walked to the actual streets of- We walked with Serial 8. Every time I go to Universal, I just pop on over there. I just want a show there at Universal so we can just always hang out at with Serial 8. That'd be so fun. Like on our lunch breaks, just go, you know, do TikToks. Do they give you lunch breaks on TV shows? I don't even know how it works. Yes, of course. They're mandated a lunch break, actually. Oh, really? Yeah. And if you don't take it, then what?

You were breaking SAG-AFTRA or whatever. Oh, wow. Yeah. Are you SAG-AFTRA? No. Really? Mm-mm. I'm surprised because you've been on camera for ET. You don't have to be on – Because I was digital. There's – you have like – I forgot how many. If you aren't SAG-AFTRA to do like TV hosting work, you have I think like two or three jobs that you can do until you have to become SAG-AFTRA. Yeah. Aww.

That's so funny. I have to because I remember back in the day it was like I was like trying to get any Zeg after jobs. I could too join the union, you know. But I got lucky. It was After and Zeg. They were separate. So I joined After which was like cheaper at the time. But then when they merged I got automatically lumped into Zeg. So now I'm Zeg After. And I was scared because Moses like started paying the bills like when we like got married and stuff. And I thought like, oh my gosh, what if he didn't renew, you know, my Zeg After because I didn't know if he knew what it

was or if I was like worth like doing but he has been doing it every because I did a TV show this year and I had to be saying after and I was like oh my god have you been renewing it and he's like yes I have been which is great because it's like every six months you gotta pay I don't know $200 I have no idea what it is but I never want to lose it because it's so hard to like get it and it's like expensive now even back then when I joined in 2007 was like

$1,800 for After Odd. I think it was like $3,000 for SAG and I was like, that's so expensive. So gotta hang on to that. Gotta keep, I still got those residuals from Nathan for you, 42 cents every single month. I love it. Keep them coming. Well, shout out 20th Century or 20th Television. That's the studio that's doing the Desperate Housewives spinoff. We know you're a SAG-OF-DRAW. Yes. Yes, an easy in there. Oh my God.

on like audition like I haven't been able to like audition you know I think I can nail a self tape I've done one self tape and I got the role so I feel like I can nail the self tape was a self tape like for a character based on you or was it like for a character I can't disclose that okay work okay work but it was a character okay work yes it was a character that reminds me have you seen Jojo Siwa's um live action Tangled's audition yes love so good actually it it

Every day I see more and more evidence that like JoJo Siwa is possibly you're related to you somehow. I'm thinking somehow you're a biological child. I don't know how. Absolutely. I need like a 23andMe to be done because. What year was she born? Because maybe I was like blacked out on the streets of Hollywood. The years that I blacked out and don't remember anything could possibly have given birth to JoJo. She's 21 so it must have been what 2004? 2004?

Oh, that's close to a black eye. I disassociated those years. 2003, May 19, 2003. Do you have any recollection of where you were? No, I was bouncing around. I ended up at my dad's house for a little while. Then I did homeschooling where I wasn't actually being homeschooled. 2003 was that year. It was my freshman year. And I wasn't in school. I was just hopping around. I disassociated. So maybe that's giving birth. That's why I don't remember. That would be...

Wild. Okay, let's do a 23andMe. Let's not do 23andMe. I think it's going to get canceled. But the audition tape is so funny. Jimmy, I'm sure, will insert it here. He's the one that sent it to me, so shout out, Jimmy. I love that. You don't send me the tape. Hey, Jimmy. Was your mother proud of that? My mother died when I was young. Oh, I'm sorry.

who took care of you i took care of myself that's how i became a thief speaking of there the snuggly duckling with horses out front as i suspected oh my gosh horses look pascal yes they're horses are we gonna ride them that's the plan who do they belong to i don't know how are we gonna pay for them i'm not gonna pay for them wait wait wait you're gonna steal them that was kind of the plan it is one of the wildest things i've ever seen it's just like

I don't know if JoJo is capable of being anyone other than JoJo. I don't know if she can get, like, lost in the character like that. No, I disagree. I feel like she was Rapunzel. Like, I thought she was so good. I think if she would have had, like, the hair, her face was so on. I thought her acting was on. No, like, her reactions were good because I think the hardest part is, like, reacting to someone. I thought she ate for real, for real. Not even in a camp way. Not even in the Katy Perry, like, dance way. She was actually, like, I thought, good. It was so good. So not in the camp way, like a legitimate actor way? Yes. Okay. Yeah.

I mean, it's a Disney live action. You know what I mean? It's just like, at this point, just give it to JoJo. I think that would actually help it. Can you imagine a live action Disney princess saga is Halle Bailey, Emma Watson, Rachel Zegler, Joni Joelle Siwa. That's kind of iconic. An iconic Hall of Fame. I think she would crush. I do think she would crush. I think sometimes too, especially when you get a good director and a good acting coach with her, I think she would, because she was kind of like naturally good. Yeah.

I saw Beyond JoJo. Okay. You didn't. Did you think it was not good? I saw JoJo with some flowers in her hair and...

that was Kim Kardashian. I think I see Kim Kardashian when she acts. But JoJo A, I want to hear her sing the songs. Yeah, all the Tangled self-tapes have been out there now. Everyone's been posting their, I guess because it's not happening anymore. Yeah, I think because it's been paused that these things are just coming out now. Do you think, because did they ever cast anyone? They never casted someone. No, there was rumors. There was rumors that Sabrina Carpenter was...

One of the top choices for Rapunzel in that Milo Manheim, is that his last name? Yes, he's currently Seymour in Little Chapel Horrors. What's he from though? I don't know what he's from. He's from another Paramount Plus show. I think it's called like Spirit High or something like that, I want to say. His mom is Cameron Manheim from Law and Order. Oh, okay. That kind of makes sense. She was also in Robin Michelle. I was wondering where he came from.

He's talented. He's so good. Yeah, he was in School Spirits and Zombies, those Disney Channel movies. Oh. Yeah. Random. Yeah. I just knew him as Seymour and he's so good at it. And I was like, oh, he's so amazing. Oh, okay. I could see him being like a Flynn Rider. That could be him. Yeah. I heard those two names bounce around a lot. But...

Now, who knows? I feel like they need a break anyway from... I don't know. I have a feeling Lilo and Stitch are going to be a hit and they're going to be like, bring them out again. Let's do this again, you know? Yeah. I couldn't be more excited about Lilo and Stitch. Like, the actual new movie because I just think the girl that plays Lilo is like the perfect cast. She's so cute. So good. Go check the ET TikTok of them doing the side-by-side that Oscar edited. It was so good. Like, it's so true to the original. It's so accurate. Like, it looks...

So good. Everything's Lilo and Stitch now at Target. Like I've been – last night I stayed up. It was like midnight and I was just like, why are you still up? And I'm like, I have to buy every single Lilo and Stitch thing I see online. I bought the Crocs. I bought the kids stuff at Target. My daughter's birthday is going to be Lilo and Stitch. By the way, people had really good suggestions. I was asking everyone on Instagram for Lilo and Stitch themed ideas for a one-year-old's party and they're like, get a laymaking station to make lays. That's making me so emo because – Did you do it? We – at my summer camp when I was little, we went to the –

What's it called? The theater that they always do, like the Disney experiences. Is it the Chinese theater? Oh, El Capitan. Oh, El Capitan. Yes, thank you. Yeah, I used to work there. Yeah, there you go. We...

Our summer camp took us to the El Capitan for like the Lilo and Stitch like experience when the movie came out. Not like the premiere, but you know, they kept the little activations and stuff. And one of the activities we did was laymaking. Oh, okay. So someone knew. Someone was on it. I have to do that again. Oh my God. That'd be so cool. It's like a core memory because I love Lilo and Stitch and I love like all the music in it. Do you have your picture from it? Of your day? I don't think we did photos there. I remember like...

I just remember going and being on the bus. I remember making a lanyard on the way to the bus. Such really random flashes. And then, yeah, making the lays. What else did they do there? I need more ideas. I think there was like a little sandbox or something to like build something with sandcastles. How old were you? I was, I must have been, when did Lilo and Stitch come out? Let me see. It was like maybe high school. I would say 2003. I was 10. It came out 2002. Oh, I was so close. Or nine because it came out before I turned 10. Yeah.

Oh my gosh. Okay, so that makes sense. You were like a little kid. Some people had suggested like peanut butter sandwiches. I have to watch the movie again. Like peanut butter sandwiches. What a good idea, you guys. Oh my God. No, they weren't killing it. They said like hula lessons for like the little kids. I was like, that would be so cute too. So cute. So literally at the midnight, I was like emailing our party planner and I was like, actually, can we get a hula lesson?

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So I was looking at that because I was like, what am I wearing? Should I be the pink stitch? Like it was this whole thing. You should be Piggly. Who's that? Piggly? Piggly, the little alien who's like a drag queen and he wears like wigs and stuff to be. Okay, kind of fierce. Okay, I didn't know this from the first movie. Oh my God. And Moses can be Jumba because he wears the Hawaiian shirt. Who's Jumba? He's like Piggly's partner. Okay, so they're, oh, they're like little FBI, like men in black. They're like from, they're trying to, they're from wherever Planet Stitch is from and they're trying to like catch Stitch again. That could be

so cute and he wears a Hawaiian shirt yeah they're like in disguise in Hawaii trying to like do intel and then catch Stitch and Jumbo wears the like big Hawaiian shirts and then Pleakley wears like wigs and big hats and Hawaiian dresses we're doing it I did order him a Hawaiian Lilo and Stitch shirt on DisneyStore.com everything has Lilo and Stitch right now so I got you a blue one so that would be perfect get some sunglasses on you get a little lay it's gonna be fun we're gonna have the Dole Whip love

So excited for the Dole Whip. I know. I was on my day off. I was just doing my invitations. I sent... We have my birthday. We have Mother's Day. And we have Elvis' birthday. So I've just been sending... I sent like three invites. I think I sent you like two invites. I'm like, don't feel pressured to come to all these. I was sending people like so many invites. I was so excited. Yeah, I'm excited too. You gonna dress up? Yeah. Well, ironically too, I'm babysitting... Me and Darren are babysitting my two nephews that day. Wait, really? Because, yeah, my brother...

And sister-in-law going out of town. She has to do like a work thing in San Diego that day. So I was already supposed to babysit them. Oh my God, that's so crazy. So yeah, it'll be... Because I said you could bring your whole family, bring everyone. So I'll bring the two. Oh my God, that's so exciting. Yes, Leighton and Bennett. Leighton's really like pretty much down for whatever. He's pretty easy to like entertain. He's a little bit older. And then Bennett is Malibu's age. And he's a little more...

He likes Darian more than me, weirdly. Layton likes me more, but, you know. It happens. At age, there's always a favorite. There's always someone. I think Malibu is... I'm starting to become Malibu's favorite, I think, because she was so excited for our spa day, our mask day. I'm like, finally. How cute.

My time to shine with the nail polish, the makeup. So I feel like I'm taking over a little bit. But that age, yeah, they're just – and you never know. It's good and bad days. You just never know. We tried to leave for lunch yesterday. My husband was not having it. I'm like, you know what? Let's just stay. And then she just went upstairs. She was a bed girl yesterday. She just wanted to stay in bed all day. I was like, she is your daughter because she never wanted to leave the bed. And usually she's not like that. She likes to play outside. She's like, whatever. But I was like, just let her rest. She's had some busy weeks traveling. Yeah, true. So it's going to be –

An extravaganza. Lilo and Stitch, we love you. I would love – I hope we can get invited to that, like if they do another activation thing. Oh, yeah. How do you get invited? Oh, you want to share with us? Yeah. It wasn't like through Disney. It was just like –

Anyone who got a ticket to the seat at the El Capitan could do the little experience or whatever. I do love that theater so much. Yeah, it was really cute and such a core memory. I'm excited for a new generation to love Lilo and Stitch. It's so cute. Especially the live action. It's just wholesome and fun. Yeah, and Maya, the little girl who plays Lilo, is just the most sweet, precious angel. Her enemies are cute. Yes. It's crazy at that age. You're starring in a movie. Yeah.

That's crazy. I know. How do you do that? Breakout role. Her first role. That's wild. Yeah. It's so cute. I'm excited to see it. Can't wait. Yeah. She's such a little cutie. I'm so excited. I hope no one is mean. I think everyone's liking it, but I hope no one is like on the hate train and wants to just be mean because it's Disney. Yeah. You can be mean to a little kid. If you're mean to a little kid, then you're like something's wrong with you. Especially like a lead in a movie. That'd be crazy. That'd be wild. That's a whole other thing. Yeah. People are usually pretty nice to kids.

I hope so. But even like the movie in general, you know, even if people like leave her alone but then are terrorizing the whole movie. I think it's going to be a hit. I think so too. It's like tracking to do really, really well. Probably one of the best movies for the summer, like for Disney. Love it. Is that the next big one that comes out?

Yeah, Thunderbolts is this week in the Marvel movie. Oh, Thunderbolts. Your future co-star is Florence Pugh. Oh, you love her. I do love Florence Pugh, yeah. She's a superhero? Yeah, she is Black Widow. We tried to explain this. Oh, what? I thought that was Scarlett Johansson. Yeah, spoiler alert from a movie from six years ago, but Scarlett Johansson died in Avengers Endgame. And...

And yeah, this is Scarlett Johansson's sister, Natasha. I love that though. She's like, I'm taking over. Yeah, well, there was a Black Widow movie where it was kind of like the passing of the torch. We saw that in theaters and fell asleep for sure. Yeah, it was like the only movie out. It wasn't a great movie, but you know, it doesn't take much to impress me. So you're going to see Thunderbolt? Yeah, it's mostly like a Florence Pugh movie with like other anti-heroes, I guess, as support. Like, you know, Sebastian Stan?

Yes. Oh, work. He played Tommy Lee and Donald Trump. Oh, there you go. Yes. Yes, I like him. He's always playing people. David Harbour is also, you know David Harbour? He was in Stranger Things. Yes. Yes. Wait, he was in a super, was he in the Black Widow movie? Yeah, I forgot. Yes. Okay, because I was like, wait, why do I remember him being like in the snow or something? That was, he was the dad. He was Scarlett Johansson and Florence Pugh's dad. Married to Lily Allen. Yes. Not anymore. In real life. Not anymore, yes. What happened? What happened?

I forget what she said. That was recent. They separated pretty recently. Yeah. The past couple months. We don't know what happens. Do you think people owe us an apology of why or an explanation of why they broke up?

I feel like they do. I really don't. I feel like it. Well, maybe not them. But I feel like if you're public, like if me and Mo's broke, I feel like if I'm just like, give us our privacy, we won't talk about it. But I'm like, I don't know. I don't feel like I should explain to you what happened. Like you're so involved with our lives. And then all of a sudden it's like, actually, no, we're not telling you. I think that's the difference. Like they're involved in our lives, but he's famous. Like they're not, they're being a couple is not the content.

I don't know about that. But that's not their content. They don't go making TikToks together. But they're still a public couple and we're all invested in them. They're just public. That's it. But I want to know. You know what I mean? I'm invested in them because they're famous. I think especially if there's like... I mean, I don't know if there's kids in their case, but like say...

Like, I'm thinking of a couple everyone loves right now, like Leighton Meester and Adam Brody. Like, if anything happened to them, like, I feel like they would just release a statement. We decided to go our separate ways. But you don't want it to get messy because kids will read that at some point, you know? So... We don't have to go full on Kanye, but you could just say, like, hey, he cheated. But what if there was no, like, big inciting incident? What if they just grew apart? Oh, well...

No one even says that. Like, we just grew apart. Like, it always, like, we remained best of friends. Yeah, that's true. But I think, again, if there's kids, like, wouldn't you rather read that than, like, yeah. I guess so. I just want to know. I was thinking about, I was kind of thinking about that, yeah, because Channing Tatum and Zoe Kravitz were engaged and they broke up a couple months ago. Yes. And they're both moved on already. Like, Channing Tatum has a new girlfriend. He moves on quickly all the time, I feel. I feel like he's always in a new relationship. Yeah.

He was with Jessie J for a while and then from Jessie J's next public one was Zoe Kravitz and they were together for a couple years. He's in a lot of people's DMs. I don't know that much. Oh, God. People in real life too. They're like, they'll show me too. They're like, I'm like, are you sure it's Channing Tatum because I feel like whatever. And they'll show me. They'll go to Instagram and then click on the profile and it's like a little blue check mark. And I was like. And it's like very, not whatever to them, but like it's like very random people. I'm like, how did he even find you? Like, that's so weird. I think he's dating an influencer now, right? I think. Really?

yeah they just went instagram official delaney rowe no um inca williams oh instagram official what does that mean he posted a photo over i think yeah i forget if it was on incas or channing but they one of them posted each other like a couple photo that is that's so yeah the um inca posted it she's 25 he's 45 do with that what you will

Yeah. Why? Okay. Well, we don't need to get into it again, but why? What? Who is this? Oh, is it Bradley Cooper? He's dating someone young. Gigi Hadid. How old is she? 30? He's like 50 something, right? I think she is. She is 30, yeah. How old is he? He's in his 50s, I think. Oh, no. 50. Yeah, I guess it's better. 45 to 25 is...

I don't know. Whatever. Do what you want, I guess. At least frontal lobe is developed at least. That's true. Yeah. And at least his past two serious girlfriends were old. Like they weren't young. So it's not like he has a Leo, Nardo DiCaprio pattern of, you know. Right, right, right. The 25 is so crazy. When I think about 25, it's like, oh my God, that's so young. But like, and I'm 37.

I still think 25 is so young. I always forget because like – I get it because Tana's like 26, but I always forget she's like so young and I'm like, wow, because she's been around for so long. So when we do talk and do the podcast, I'm like, I forget how young she is. Like it's crazy because it's like when she was talking about the engagement stuff, I was like, oh, yeah. Like why are people pressuring her? She's so young. Yeah. It's still like –

You're still so young at that age. I mean, you know stuff at 26, but... I guess it's just Hollywood. I need to just get over it. Everyone's just dating. Everyone's 20 years younger than them, so... Yeah. Even beyond that age gap relationship or whatever, I was more thinking too, like, damn, they were engaged. They were in love. They were so public. And then just a couple months later, they're so moved on. And I'm like, I just can't... I mean, obviously, it may...

I get how people move on and stuff, but it's just weird thinking about me. Like, I couldn't imagine, like, being with someone for, you know, five years and then, like, within a couple months being, like, Instagramming. Posting someone new. Yeah. I could never either. I think about that, too. I was like, oh, my God, like, have you ever broke up? I'm like, that is crazy to even, like, think about dating someone else, but then also just, like, post someone else. All of a sudden, you're like, well, where's Moses? Like, I don't know. It's so... Probably easier for me to move on. I think if you posted a girl a couple months after, I think people would be, like, unfollowed. You know me. I don't post anyone until...

You're married. There's a ring. Yeah. It is weird. I think about that with my favorite couple was Jason Momoa and Lisa Bonet. Yeah. Because they were together for so long and he was always like obsessed with her. He's like, I married the hottest chick. I married my middle, my high school crush, like all this stuff like that. And then obviously it's been years, but he brought a new, he's like my lady at the Minecraft premiere. And I was like,

And like obviously like you move on. It's fine. And probably she has too. Like whatever. But it does make me – yeah. When you know someone as someone, it's just like so sad. Who does it? There's a YouTube couple who still clickbaits. They're like we love each other. Like God, who is it? Oh, they're so old. You probably don't even know. I mean they're probably my age. But they're like an OG couple and they used to do pranks on each other. I know exactly who you're talking about. Yeah. I think Jessie is one of them. Jessie and Jenny maybe. Yeah.

And they used to do – like, they were beloved. They used to do these pranks and people were like, we love them. And they still make content together. Like, we're getting back together. Like, we're not broken up. Like, it's been literally 15 years, I think, since they broke up and they still make this content. Were they prank versus prank? Prank versus prank! And they used to get – like, literally this is like 2006, 2007. Like, they got so many views. People were, like, obsessed with them and, like –

Yeah. Then they broke up and no one cared about them anymore. Like truly not to be whatever, but they broke up and their whole brand fell apart. And then now I see they're like making vlogs together. I mean, they're probably fine. They're probably not vloggers anymore, but. Jessie and Gina, I believe is how you pronounce her name. Gina. Yes. Yes.

Wow, it is all coming back to me. It's so crazy. And then they kind of like disappeared, whatever. And like I said, they're probably fine. They probably made a ton of money, whatever. They don't need to vlog. But now they're kind of coming back like using each other and the thumbnails again. Yeah. I mean, they have to be my age or older, I would assume, because they were like engaged and stuff. Or maybe they weren't even engaged. I think they dated like a really long time and were like never engaged. Yeah, and their whole YouTube career, they were like a couple. Yes, yeah. And so when they broke up, like, I mean, really their whole brand fell apart, which is like –

Crazy. They were the opposite of Jake and Tara where it was like they thrived after a breakup and now it's like –

Yeah, it's so interesting because you just know someone as together and then – I think that was the downfall of David Dobrik. I think when him and Liza broke up, I think he went like – he went full on Joker. He went full on just like this is my villain origin story because like he was like – I met him when he was still with Liza and then like a couple months later they did the breakup video. And he was like so happy and so just like puppy dog, like going over, she's making me frozen pizza, like just so whatever. And then like after that he just started like I hate every single female in this world. Oh.

So that's why I was like, maybe that was the villain origin story of David Dobrik. But it does suck. It does suck. She thrived, I guess. So, you know, it's always interesting to see after a breakup, too. Like, who – not to say David didn't thrive. I guess he did. He made money, but – Yeah, it is – I'm trying to think of, like, a YouTube couple where, like, one has gone on to have so much success while the other one didn't.

I mean, you see it on TikTok, like Chris, we just talked about. That is true. And Ian was probably more successful than Chris when they started because he was like a Broadway dancer and danced behind Ariana Grande and stuff. But, right, they were a couple. But you kind of forget about it. You're kind of like, damn, I kind of forgot about them. I did love them. We watched them in quarantine. Yeah, that was their best. Oh, that was the best era? Best of both of them. Went downhill after that? Okay.

Yeah, it is interesting. Yeah, who had more? Or I always want to think too, like after someone breaks up, like is there someone who successfully had another relationship that everyone like championed? Oh, yeah. You know, even celebrities, I'm trying to think. Because it never really is. It's always like a comparison. Like, okay, it's not that person. Because look at Justin and Selena. Like no one can get over them, you know? Where's the Ace family? I think there's a podcast. Do you ever hear about them? No, they have podcasts out? I think the...

Whatever their names are, the aces, the guys. The boys. The boys. God, what is his name? What is his name? Austin McGrew. And the other one. And the brother. No idea. And the brother had a podcast. I remember when they started it because they said something weird and I was like, what is going on here? They said something weird on the podcast. It was something off-putting and I remember being like, okay, what's going on here? But that's the last I heard. I feel like they don't have a podcast anymore.

I would hear about it because I'm pretty like tuned in, tapped in on these things. Also, everyone that we forget about is just like on Snap making like a ton of money. That's true. That's the tea right there. Like where did they go? Honestly, kudos to them. Yeah, if they're making money elsewhere, but hmm. Did you see Tara Yummy's

Do a TikTok collab with Kenzie, Luby, like Jake's current girlfriend. I missed it. What was the TikTok? They did Girl So Confusing, which is like... What is that one? It's like Wicked Out on the remix. It's like that song, which means it's very fitting. It makes sense for... Were they fighting ever? Were they ever beefing? I think because there was so much like fan speculation because like anytime Jake vlogs, it's always Tara that's featured instead of his girlfriend, Kenzie.

So there's always that rhetoric, which is like, if I was dating Jake and he was posting his ex-girlfriend this much and they were hanging out and doing tart trips and blah, blah, blah, blah, then it would not fly with me. So there's been that speculation. I do feel we'll see separation. I mean, she probably did the TikTok to be like, no, we're cool, but it won't always be like that.

There's just no way. There's no way you're gonna be besties with that person. You know, even if they're like the nicest, sweetest, and they both are. I met both of them and they both are like so nice, so sweet. They seem like girls, girls for sure. But also like, it just won't. I don't know. But it's good for, it can be good for TikTok. It can be good for social media. Like, okay, look, we're cool together. But, um,

God, I remember that podcast. I don't even remember the name. It doesn't even matter. But it was one that Tara was on and then they had the act come on. Oh, yes, yes. Dropout. Yeah. Not to be shady, but even like what even happened to that? You know, it's like after that, I kind of was like, oh, like.

Because remember she was being quiet and then the girl was being – and then people were like, oh, I feel bad for Tara. And I don't even know what was happening in that. I just – I know we talked about it. Don't get it twisted. I do remember the whole – the guy. Yes. But I'm just saying that I think – The dynamics between Tara and Indiana. Right. So everyone kind of – they're trying to be like, we're cool, we're cool. But it like never came across that way and then it kind of – everyone started looking into everything more and we're just like – Yeah. So –

Anyways, I hope they're all well. Yeah, same. Mentally well, too. Yeah. And it also makes sense, I guess, why Jake hasn't really posted Kenzie that much because he was even on here before, I think, dating Kenzie. And he was like, next time I have a relationship, I will not be as public about it because he just –

like instead of put too much weird like pressure and like too many people like you know i didn't remember day one that i met jake the first time i met jake she was at the house because i remember she was there and i was like oh she's so pretty or like whatever um but yeah he he kind of told me but then didn't because i think he probably thought i had a big mom but then he told me that he was kind of like yes no kind of like i don't talk about it whatever and i was like okay so i think we've been dating like quite a while yeah okay that makes sense yeah i

And she is so pretty. So pretty. Like, I literally – we're oomphies. I mean, kind of. Are you? Yeah. On TikTok or Instagram? Instagram, yeah. I don't know if I follow her on Instagram. She was so nice. She's gorge. She seems really, really cool. And – Whenever a pretty girl, like, likes me, I'm always just, like, so intimidated. I get so insecure right away. I mean, now I'm, like, old, so, like, whatever. But, I mean, I still – like, a little bit of me in, like, high school is like, oh, my gosh. Pretty girl's talking to me. I'm a little nervous, you know? I get a little shy, but –

I, like, when I followed her, I literally couldn't even help it. Something takes over me and, like, I get full, like, unfiltered. Ironic. Okay. But I was like, damn, like, I don't understand. If I looked like you, I would be ruining men's lives. Like, you are the most beautiful girl I've ever seen. She was so sweet about it. Wait, you wrote it to her? Yes. As if I was, like...

How did you start that? How was the preface? You said something. I think I was just like liking her like her photos kept coming up like you know when you just follow someone then they show up a lot in your algorithm and I was just liking everyone that came up and being like damn I don't know how she could possibly like look like this. You commented on it. Yeah there was one where I was just like I can't like how are you even a real human being? Yeah that's good you should have left

people know that when you feel that way. Yeah, and it's very like unthreatening. Jake has nothing to worry about, obviously. No, but it feels so good because I feel like, you know, I don't know how it feels to be a pretty girl, but I'm sure they get insecure too.

You know what it feels like to be a pretty girl. No, not like that. Because what was it, Madison Beer, who was like, it's a curse to be so hot. Like, I feel like that I can never relate to. But I'm like, I feel like some of those, like, hot girls probably feel bad about themselves sometimes. Yeah, hot girls have problems, too, as we've learned. Different kind of problems. I forgot about that song. Where did that come from again? It's a song. Yeah. Hot girls, we have problems, too. Except we're just like you. Except we're hot. Where does that come from? I don't know.

song. I'm sure they like. Where's the origin of the song? YouTube I think. It was just like girls on YouTube because I think I did a hot girl problems video a long time ago. Yes. You are so right. Is it 2011 or something? Double take 2012. Wow. Oh my god. Yeah I remember that was an error because I think I did a video trying to be that. I just copied Ebony Tren that was coming along. That is so funny. Hot girls we have problems too just like you.

Except for hot. Is this new? Was I supposed to show this? I forgot to show this. You showed it last episode. No, this is a new one. Oh, it's a different one? I know, they love crochets. I just opened the other suitcase and there were more things. More crocheting. I love everyone crochets. This one looks really pretty. And there's one shirt. Oh, yeah. Show that shirt over there. Wow. Somebody commented on the shirt. I was like, I didn't see a shirt. Oh, yeah. Love it. Wow. It's like airbrush. Yeah, that was cool. Oh, it looks big, too. I'm going to wear that on the next one. Okay.

I remember they held it up in the crowd. I saw it. I was like, bring that up here. How cute. Yeah, it's really cute. Damn, how did they do that? What is her makeup? Oh, my God. I love that. Okay. Blonde Sandal 4MJ. Cute. Who's it from? Ed Smacked 222. Ed Smacked. Yeah, because the person is like Smack Sarah. Sarah Smack. Sarah Smack. But on Instagram, it's Smack Smacked 222. Love it. Thank you for that. It's so cute. People are talented. So many talented people. I can't even...

Do you want to give a shout out to your shirt, your Amazon shirt today? I was working hard trying to figure out the joke about my shirt, but I couldn't. Just now you're working harder earlier. Earlier. Like he would ask me and I'd be like, oh, it's from the rainforest or something. Okay. Well, you didn't use it, so I guess that's good. You said no, not that joke. The rainforest.

okay it's giving white lotus again i love it yeah i mean they're all i think it's all the same but this is the dragon so that's elvis you're you're the dragon love it yeah i think you look great you look like walton goggins oh next time next time i'll wear the goggles we have them upstairs my album warm everyone loves those goggles i'll wear them next time

Well, speaking of hot girls who like you, though, I had to give a shout out to Cat's Eye because their promo campaign for the new song is all about muck banging. And I feel like

A mukbang collab needs to happen between you and... I knew something was happening. I got a bunch of tweets being like, post the cat's eye photo. They finally showed their hair. They finally debuted. I loved mine. I did want to post it, but I was like, oh, I don't know if I need to get approval because there's like... We took so many photos. There's probably like 20 photos of us on the thing. But like sometimes one's eyes close. Sometimes, you know, I was like... And I was trying to look at everyone's face to make sure everyone looks good. And I'm like, I don't know if I'm supposed to get approval of these. They all look fierce. They look so good. But I just didn't know. Oh my God. So what is the song called? It's called Gnarly.

And what does the mukbang promo have to do with it?

It's kind of food themed, the music video. There's a lot of eating scenes randomly. It's very fierce. The music video is very fierce. The song is a little controversial because the lyrics are very campy. Some people don't like the lyrics. What's the controversial lyric? This one I will say maybe we do an edit. Really? Oh, even you. Let me read it. What was it? What was it? The meme first? The beginning is, Boba T, gnarly. Tesla, gnarly.

Fried chicken. Gnarly. Gnarly is good or bad? Good. It's like complimentary. I thought if someone smelled gnarly, they smell bad. It's like sickening. It's like, you know. Oh, they said Tesla. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There is a version where they say robotics instead of Tesla. So I think we got to run with that one. That's the clean version. You know what? We took out a Tesla joke in the Broadway show too. There was something like, what's next? A gay Tesla robot? And then how about we just say gay robot?

Yeah, okay. Very cat's eye. Yeah. They should probably eliminate the Tesla part for sure. Yes, yes, yes, yes. Did you contact them and tell them? Well, you're oomphies with Manon, but yeah. Oh, yeah. But I feel like not my place. You're like a producer. You're coming from the journalistic standpoint. Okay, to your yes. For me to say something's problematic. Actually, I wouldn't say that if I were you. That is crazy. Maybe they're getting sponsored.

I don't think they are. I think that... Because they didn't write the song or anything. The song was, like, you know, given to them. But... That is a weird shout-out, though. Yeah. So, I think maybe just added that line. But they look so good in the music video. I think that's where you probably saw them because they filmed that whole thing and, like, it was like...

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Like a studio kind of thing. So yeah, you probably saw them when they were working on that. But they look so good. So the hair is revealed. Yes, hair is revealed. The looks are revealed. They don't look too dramatically different. I don't know why. I was like, oh my God, they must have completely different hair. Like Megan had orange, like vitamin C kind of hair before. And now it's like darker. Okay. But other than that, they all kind of look not too drastically different. Well, they were adamant about it.

So I was like, don't worry, girl. It's my thing. I can post it now. Cause like it was able to take the photo. So I'm sure. Yeah. I'm sure I can post it. Yeah. What I saw about it was this and Jimmy added down if needed. Yes. The people are comparing it to this. The Cody Cole. What?

People are comparing Gnarly to the Cody Ko spoof song. What was he spoofing? What was he spoofing? What was that song? That's the first time I heard it. Cody Ko jump scare, though, always. Trigger warning. Trigger warning. Please warn us next time. That's how I learned about the new song. That's scary. Oh, my gosh.

What was that song? Knock It Off, Cody Ko featuring Noel Miller. You know he thought he aged. He's probably like, we're so funny. We're so funny. Honestly, yeah. I hate guys like that. I'm sorry. I hate dislikes. Oh, yeah. Sorry, Moses. I know. I was like, okay, I dislike strongly. Question, do we hate serial killers or no? I was thinking with Joel Goldberg. I was like, do we hate? No, because it's always the same when you say that. They always find the most extreme personality there is. Like, you have to hate him. I'm like, I don't hate anyone. He's a hateful person.

You know what I mean? Like, yeah, he's a hateful person. I'm going to take him to court, put him in jail forever, but I'm not going to be a hateful person. You take the high road. I'm just, why do I need to be a hateful person? I kind of see, you know, the... I know from like going to Catholic school and like, you know, religion classes, you know, that is kind of the lesson. Yeah. I see it...

But in practice, I'm like, I can't. I really, I don't know if I can do it. That's what I'm saying. I don't want to get back in this cycle, this vortex we got into last time. But you can hate somebody and it doesn't mean you hate everybody. Just because I hate this one person doesn't mean I hate my daughter. That's the craziest thing I've ever heard. My reaction the first time I heard it was extreme too. And then it takes time until you... It's not extreme. It's just common knowledge. No, it is. It is extreme because nobody wants to think of them as a hateful person. Well, I'm not a hateful person. I just hate some people. I don't know.

I'm good the other time. I'm great both. Not hateful. Yeah, hate-ish. The hate-ish. That should be good. Like, there's shows like Black-ish. There was another one, too. Hate-ish. Young-ish. Young-ish. Grown-ish. Grown-ish. Grown-ish, yes. I could be hate-ish. That is so funny. Starring Trish. I love it. Other hot girls that like me. Did you see Cutie Cinderella? We didn't name. Yes, I was so excited. Does she actually make cakes? Yeah, she's a really good baker. Like, she bakes beautiful cakes and cupcakes. She literally, like, bought...

I think it was like a restaurant or something like that was no longer in use. Like she bought it so she could film like her cooking and baking stuff there. And she has like baking series that she does on Twitch. Yeah. She's really, really good. Like, I don't know what the flavors are, but like they're really ornate. Like the three layers. She has like fondant stuff. I think she just made cupcakes that were like all flowers and like roses and stuff. So is she an artist? Like she's doing all the decorations and everything? That's what's so crazy. She's like, oh, does Elvis need a cake for her birthday? I was like,

yeah. Like, and I was like, actually, yeah. Do you, do you do this? That's so random. Cause like, it's so random. Cause like an influencer, like, that'd be like, if I worked on cars or something part time, I'd be like, Oh, do you want me to like fix your car for you? It's like, I don't know. Huh? There are TED talks you do. Oh, or Trish talks. Okay. Yes. I did fix cars in that one.

But it'd be weird to like hire me to like fix your car because it's like, well, I also do social media. But I mean, if that's what she does, I will for sure. I know. Props to her because she is very busy. She's always doing something. You were telling me like she has like three podcasts and stuff. And I'm just like, oh, okay. Love that she's taking on baking stuff too.

I would be so excited. Yes. We need a Lilo and Stitch cake. I'm excited to see what she comes up with. I really am. I can't imagine. Okay, I'm going to DM her back. Yeah, you have to. I never get DMs on Twitter. If it is you or Moses, those are the only two people I DM myself. I never see a Twitter DM either. Well, I see them. I just never get them. So if I see one, you know, the little one pops up in the box, I'm like, oh, who's DMing me on Twitter? And so it was cuties and relevant. Love. That's mage. Yeah. A lot of you. The connections just keep connecting. Love. Yeah.

Love QT. Have you seen this new debate that keeps going viral? I feel like you probably have missed it, but there's this whole thing about how many men would it take to beat a gorilla? Have you seen? Moses has seen it. To beat a gorilla? Yeah, to fight a gorilla and win.

No. Do you even care? No, but I saw a t-shirt recently of someone's like, I'm not a gorilla, but I beat off 100 men a day or something. Did you see that one? I was like, what is this shirt? I'm seeing it pop up. I'm really contemplating that shirt. Okay, I'm trying to visualize. I'm not a gorilla, but I beat off men.

Something like that. I love the first one you said more. Okay, I don't know what it was. There was something. Okay, work. Anyway, so what's this one? Who asked the question and why do people want to know? Well, I think I saw it become bigger when Mr. Beast also chimed in. He kind of wants to... Put a hundred men. Yeah.

To fight off a gorilla. How many men does it take to fight off a gorilla? Like I saw an AI image that was like a big gorilla and surrounded by a hundred men. Yes, I've seen that. Oh, so it's a hundred men is the answer. No, like do you think it's possible that a hundred men can actually overtake a gorilla? Probably.

With their bare hands. How much are gorillas? What gorilla are we talking about? Are we talking about King Kong? Like, are they that big? Like the one that you... It's a zoo. Yeah, like a real... I think 100 people could probably take a gorilla. I think 100, yeah, I do. I think a gorilla would take some of them out. But... Yeah. Right? Because there's no way... But 100 is just unfair, though. Like, 100 versus one gorilla. Yeah, no, that's actually not fair. But they're, I mean, they're insanely strong. Yeah. Like, it's not... I don't think they can. Yeah.

Without tools. Without any tools, just bare hands. You don't think you can hold them down? No. How much do gorillas weigh? Because the reality is like a hundred men, you can't fit a hundred men. You know what I mean? Only maybe 10 at a time can actually be touching the gorilla. No, but you could like hold them back or support them or... I can weigh up to 450 pounds. Oh, a hundred men could easily take a 450 pound gorilla. They're all muscle. I mean, they can literally rip you apart. Really? They've ripped humans apart before? Yeah.

Is that real or is that part of the game? Yeah. They for sure have killed... I mean, smaller chimpanzees have done that. Yeah. Oh my God. I don't think a hundred men with bare hands, no tools can do that. Where do they live? The gorillas. Jungles. But somewhere in zoos, huh? Yeah, definitely. I mean, aren't they scared to like go into there and feed them? Like, I'd be scared. Do you know what I mean? They take, I mean, they do it through, you know, let's say like, kind of like Joe Goldberg. They have like a door. They put the food. They close the door. Yeah.

How do they get them in there? Like Joe Goldberg? Do they drug them or what? I think so, yeah. I saw a video. Did you see this a while ago where there was one like zookeeper who got trapped inside with them and it was like a whole like thing where like the zookeepers having from like the other side of the wall having to like distract. Distract the gorilla so the person can get out. Oh, because they're not, they're never in there with them?

no they're so yeah they are aggressive so that should be like red flag number one to not have a gorilla at a zoo like what the hell like even the killer whales they're like up there and swimming with them and stuff like that but if you can't even be in there with them so they literally like drug allegedly i guess they drug them they will tranquilize them they'll be sleeping basically they put them in a container then take the container to the zoo and where are they tranquilizing them out in nature like they'll capture them but usually when they're small like a baby oh my

I mean, it's awful. Everything about it is... I think a lot of them are probably bred in captivity now. I would hope at least, but... Oh my God. Honestly, rip those humans apart. I would too. Could you imagine? It is kind of nature versus nurture. It's like Henry from Joel Goldberg. It's like if that's how you're brought up in this glass box in this cage, it's like the twin who turned evil. It's like all of a sudden the monkey's going to turn evil because they like evil thrust upon them. You know what I mean? That's so sad. Yeah, right.

So, I don't know. Mr. Beast joked that he wants to do 100 men versus a gorilla. Mr. Beast, how are you going to get the gorilla in there? Are you going to also tranquilize the gorilla? Like, what the hell? How can he do that without hurting people and the gorilla? Or the gorilla. I'm more concerned about that. And also the fact that he'd even want to try anything like that. Like, just keep the gorillas in the jungle. We don't need men fighting them.

Someone's going to die. People are going to die. And that sucks. But it's like, let's not do this. It's crazy. A wildlife expert and primate specialist also weighed in and said that he does think that 100 guys could beat a gorilla. But that if it was hand-to-hand combat, but there would definitely be some casualties in this hypothetical battle.

Which honestly makes sense. Who asked this question again? It was one guy on Twitter. Oh. And then it got viral. Yeah. So it wasn't like a scientist or anything. Okay. I thought this was like a big debate people were having. It became a big debate because this one tweet got so viral. So what are people saying? Some people didn't know if it could just be 100 or if it would take more than that. But yeah, a wildlife expert has weighed in to say that.

100 men probably could, but it would take a good chunk of them out. Like a couple casualties would definitely be happening. Yeah. We should be doing Save the Gorillas. How come no one ever does that? There's like Save the Whales, Save This, and no one ever talks about the gorillas. T. Wasn't there a big movement with Humber? What was his name? The gorilla. Oh, yeah. Oh, my God. Harambe. Yes. Good job. Remember when people were like, for Harambe. Do you remember that?

What happened there? Why am I forgetting the Harambe lore? I think did a kid make its way into the capture and then they had to shoot. They shot the gorilla. Yeah, you're right. And the gorilla wasn't even hurting the kid, I think.

And they were like, he didn't have to die. A three-year-old boy visiting the zoo climbed under a fence where he was grabbed and dragged by Harambe. Fearing for the boy's life, a zoo worker shot and killed Harambe. Oh, God. Oh, my God. That whole situation is awful. How did that become... I don't know. Google that. This is kind of like, you know, Connie...

Like it was in that era where things became a big meme. It was kind of the only meme and everyone took it to every possible direction. That's actually sad. That whole story is kind of sad. You saved a child from going under, they climbed under a fence to the elephants. Moses saved a small child. Oh my God. At the zoo. It was insane. It was like this weird situation where this kid and this kid was like determined to get to the elephants and

And I think it was a girl. Was it a girl? And she was like under the fence. And I managed to just grab her shoe, like the end of her shoe under the fence before she made an escape for it. And I was just like, what the hell is going on here right now? Where are the parents? Yeah. And her leg almost got out of the shoe. And luckily, I think then the parents showed up.

And we pulled the kid out. That's so crazy. That's crazy. I was like nervous because I was like, I don't know, like, what do you do in that situation, right? Because it's also like someone else's kid. I'm like, what if you just like, I guess you have to save him. You kind of have to, yeah. But also like, what if the parent's like, don't yank my kid's leg. Don't let her get in the elephant. It was already inside. It wasn't even like,

She's looking at the fence. I'm like, don't do that. Yeah. And she was like inside. We sat from across. We were kind of a crossway and Moses ran really fast. Like I ran and because I don't even know how I noticed it happening, but ran and I mean, if in that case with a gorilla, that would have saved that life. You know, that's true. That's true. I guess you have to. Yeah. At least elephants are a little bit less. Yeah. They're very humane. Yes. Yeah. Yeah.

I'm trying to remember the specific context of this tweet, but God, my mind consumes way too much like media and that like I don't know where the origins are. But I saw this one video and it was like an elephant foot hovering over like a human's bare foot. And it was the point was like, look how like aware and smart elephants are. But then there was. Oh, my God.

Oh, my God. And hundreds and hundreds of years ago, because the photo was black and white and like bad quality. So I'm assuming it was a while ago. They had a they hanged an elephant that like, like pursued and killed someone. And they were like, well, that elephant just knew that she was evil. That's why that it killed her. But they hanged them. Yeah, they hanged them with like a crane or something. This elephant was like, yeah, hanged.

Why? Because it killed, pursued. But why did they take that route? True, of all the ways. They're trying to humiliate him or what? Like, that's so weird. I guess the same message. Oh my God. Is that real? Was that a real photo? Elephants are amazing. Like they'll, they can paint, you know, and they, and they recognize, you know, people. And it's true. There was one person that abused elephants in a circus and one of them retaliated against that one person. And if somebody dies, they'll, they'll walk.

1,000 miles, they know. And they'll walk 1,000 miles to almost attend a funeral. Oh, my gosh. And the way they protect their babies. I mean, they're amazing. So it is real. This elephant, her name was Mary, R-I-P Mary. They named her Murderous Mary, which seems very uncalled for. She stepped on her trainer's head because that trainer was hurting her and was unqualified. What?

Period. Yeah. Like, this abusive trainer. She was like, I'm going to take you out. And then they freaking hanged her from a crane. That is so sad. That's so weird. It's so dramatic. You also don't need to be doing all that. That's what I'm saying. That is so odd and so weird. I would think, too, like, how do you, when you come to Earth, get chosen to be a gorilla or a human? Do you know what I mean? Yeah.

Like, their souls, they're smart. Like you said, they have brains. It's like, okay, so what stopped you from being a gorilla versus a human? I guess just fate. I guess just fate. What does that mean? I don't know if there's a scientific explanation for that. Do you ever think about that? Or like, why is that being a gorilla? Like, why did that soul and brain go to the gorilla? I think it's just fate.

Maybe another question for the vet whenever the hot vet comes. I would love for you to ask the hot vet that question. Buddhism, like they say, there's levels. You start from you'll be a worm and then you'll be like you. It's almost like the evolutionary. The gorilla seems above us if they're so strong and smart. It could be, yeah. I mean, being a dolphin is probably an incredible experience or a whale. That's so interesting. Do you believe in reincarnation? Do we come back as different beings, different creatures? Yeah.

Absolutely. The worst would be an ant. Yeah. You're just every day fearing for your life. Unless you're the queen ant. What happens then? Then everyone kind of like is the one that brings you the crumbs and stuff. So you don't have to really risk your life or whatever. You're just having babies all day. Oh, yeah. You could be that. I'd love it. I'd be a queen ant all day long. Bring me those crumbs. Bring me the babies. I'd love it. Remember there was a

their Ants World or something at Disneyland where there was giant ants? A Bug's Life World. Oh, yeah. What happened to that? They turned it into the Marvel Avengers stuff. That's what they replaced it with? I hate it. It was such a cute land. It was like these giant ants on top of your leaves and it was so cute. Oh, I hate that so much. As much as I love those giant chicken sandwiches, I still do not love it. Damn. I do love those. Ant-Man is there now. Oh, yeah. T. I guess the cafe is Ant-Man. Yeah. Oh, damn.

Oh, damn. I do like that giant chicken sandwich, though. That sounds so good, right? Yeah. Oh, maybe we could do a cooking video where we try to make that giant chicken sandwich. It has to be kind of easy. You have to get in front of a really giant piece of chicken. Because all the chicken fillets are so small. They're like this big. Yeah. How do they get a giant chicken that size? They must just... It's pretty thin, so they must pound it. They pound that thing. Well, we pound it, too, and never get it that big. Because Moses makes pretty good schnitzel. He could make that, but it just wouldn't be that big because...

I would love to interview a Disneyland chef. Do you think they do interviews? I don't think they let them. I know. I feel like it's under lock and key, all the secret recipes. Like gatekeep all day long. Yeah. I also have a weird craving of going to Universal, which sounds crazy, but they're doing fan nights right now. Have you seen this? I saw a commercial for that. Yeah. Where did you see a commercial? On TV? No. Randomly. Randomly.

This lore is kind of insane. But one influencer who was in one of the Joey Graceffa, are they gay or straight, whatever. One of those videos. He's like a fitness model or something. Anyway, but he was cast in the commercial for FanFest and they made him be one of the Vikings from How to Train Your Dragon. And that's how I saw the commercial. And he wasn't even like in the park working. He was just like an actor for the commercial. Yeah, just a model. Did it make you want to go to it?

I didn't show what it was. They just showed him walking around in this Viking hat. And I hadn't seen How to Train Your Dragon at that point when I saw the commercial. So what was this? Two weeks ago. I saw How to Train Your Dragon last week. That was fast. Damn. You're like, after you saw that, you're like, I need to go watch this movie. It was Darian's idea. But yeah, was that his birthday? Yes, actually, that was his birthday movie. What'd you guys eat?

Closing soon. I know. Save Magianos. Save the whales. Save the divas. Save Magianos. Save the clock tower at FanFest. Because they have characters that are dressed up as Doc Brown. Yeah.

And like Crispin Glover. And they like reenact like the scenes from Back to the Future. So you go to the back lot and obviously that's where they shot Back to the Future. So it's all decorated as if it's Back to the Future. Like you're in the movie and they have actors coming around. Like even before you go to the back lot, there's a woman being like, the clock tower. Like save the clock tower. You know, whatever. So it's like an immersive experience. I want to go so bad. Wow. That does sound fun. I love a good cosplay. Like when actors are like interacting with you. I hate interacting with those people. But I love seeing it happen.

Yeah. It feels like you're a part of the movie. I feel like you should go because that's like a thing. I want to go. I just feel like there's I never have time and I can't. But I wish. Yeah, I would be down to go. I don't I am not allowed to have that kind of roller coaster activity right now, though, for seven more weeks. But yeah. But hopefully if it's still if it's still going on. No, I think it's. Yeah. We never even went for Universal for the wicked food.

The Wicked Cafe. We meant to go over Christmas break. What happened? I think we just got busy. I know. Next time we have to make that a priority. Yeah. It's for Wicked for Good. We will be there. When does it come out? I don't think they even released the trailer officially yet, but I would assume November again. I'm assuming. Yeah. We have to make sure we're really on it this time. Yeah. We should...

Honestly, get the invite from Universal. They invite all these freaking people for their little, like, random, like, theme park excursions and activations. I'm like, come on now. Like, you know. I love activations. Where did that come up from? Where did that concept come from? I love the idea of people just, like, setting up fun things for people to try to promote.

We had, I guess I can say, I don't know if I can say it. Maybe I can't. I don't know. It's probably fine. It came to me unsolicited in an email, so I probably can say it right. Okay. Speaking of Activation, there's a new Megan movie coming out. Oh, yeah. You know, it's like a doll. Yeah, of course. It's a horror doll or something. You've seen it?

The gays love Megan Trisha. You should probably interview the doll or something because she's everything. Well, that's what it was. They were trying to have me interview Megan and they were like, but we need to know if you want to ask her certain questions ahead of time so we can program her. And I was just like, what does that mean? Like-

I was like, Amelia. I was like, no, that's weird. But I thought she possessed. A little possessed doll in my house. No, she is a diva. Megan is a diva. Gays love Megan. She dances. She loves pop music. She loves chaperone, weirdly. Okay. But she is so fierce. And Megan, yeah, Megan Chu is coming out pretty soon. And it's like even gayer than the first one. Really? They went full gay. She's full diva. She's like superhero diva.

Diva, she became like the anti-hero. She was a villain in the first Megan, but now she is saving the day. She's fierce. She's going up against another femme fatale evil girl robot. Okay. And there's good music. There's good dances. Oh, you love Megan. I love, gays love Megan. Why? How do I not know this? They even, they made Megan to...

Bigger and gayer. Like, literally... On purpose? There's a gay scene... There's, like, a scene where, like, there's, like, a Megan Stan that, like, wants to free Megan because she was incarcerated and Megan won, whatever. And...

And they go, Megan is a mother. And it's like this gay guy being like, no, she's Sophia. She is a mother. And I'm like, they know. You should have been that role. That was good. I should have been. That was believable. Okay, say yes to interview Megan if Oscar can be in Megan 3. In Megan 3, yes. But that's what I was thinking. It seems like a paid advertisement or something. They have the Megan doll here. Me giving a whole paid promo. Unpaid promo. It would be an unpaid promo. And then the other option was if you don't want the Megan doll, we have...

IRL Megans that show up, like a group of Megans that would show up. And I'm like, well, what does that mean? Yeah, they are just actors

Actors. They have them at Universal. They have like little Megans and they dance and run around with knives and stuff. They could do a little TikTok with you or something. Yeah. The Megans are fierce. I think you need that doll. It would be everything. That's not scary. Protect the dolls and protect Megan as well. Oh, that's true. I guess I can't wear this without protecting all the dolls, including Megan. All dolls. All right. Well, maybe I'll think about it. It was just so random. You should. And it came from the right hat and stuff like that because you always are like, is this real? And then you're like, okay. That is so fierce. Okay.

Megan interview coming soon. Yeah, honestly, T, I know the gays in the comments are going to be all about it because gays love Megan. But if she's possessed, we are possessed. She's not possessed. What is she? She's technology. She's just like, yeah, she's like AI. So why is she evil? Because her programming, spoiler alert for Megan One, but her programming like was to protect...

Katie this like little girl like protect her at all costs so anyone who like remotely threatens her or like is just mean to her she's like programmed to the extreme to like you know take them out to protect her okay I like that better than no devil yeah she's not like possessed no no devil it's just like yeah done and done she's invited technology yeah

I'm glad we cleared that up because that's as big. Yeah. I know. Here I was judging. I was like, I don't want a little possessed doll here. I think you're thinking of Annabelle. No relation to Annabelle. She is possessed. Yeah. Okay. And Chucky. Yeah. There's no possession here. It's just technology. Megan even trolls Chucky. She's like, I'm more iconic than you'll ever be, Chucky. Oh, okay. Yeah. She's on Twitter. She's on Twitter being messy. That's why I love Megan. That's why everyone loves Megan. She's cute.

cute she has wigs and like the girl who played the doll is like a dancer so like she everyone was impressed because the choreography was so good and oh it's a person that plays her there's like a girl and I guess they I think they have her in a mask or something or they animate her making like the doll's face over her but it's like her doing the body and like all the movements and then they put like the robot's face over her do you think Deadpool stole those nachos I think Deadpool was first with the dancing

Bye-bye-bye? Ooh, actually, you're right. Bye-bye-bye was after Megan. Maybe. They're like, ooh, we're going to also make this character dance. Honestly, yeah, because the dance sequence from Megan is what, like, really made it become a thing. Is it scary? It's PG-13. There's no, like, gore or anything. It's more, like, campy and not a lot of, like, any of the kills are, like, offscreen and, like, implied. It's not, like, in your face. Yeah. All right. Maybe. Maybe.

I love it. Shout out, Megan. You see the doll? Yeah, I'm looking at it now. I know what you mean. Like what your fears were. Thank you. It's scary a little bit. But I guess if she's a diva and the gays love, then we love. Take it into consideration.

Gaze, we got to demand it. We got to get Megan on here. I was so excited. It's like guest appearance for Just Trish. I was like, oh my God, who is this? From Universal. I was like, who could it be? No, that's exactly it because I was literally immediately thinking Wicked. But it's a good start. You know, he starts with them and then moves to the real people. That's true. We'll start with the doll. You'll be in. Yeah, you'll be in. I'll email back to him. Yes, please do. I wouldn't delete it. Usually I see it and I'm like, oh, okay.

Have you seen this TikToker controversy about – she's a wellness TikToker, Janelle Roehner. You know her? Oh, my God. My mom is obsessed with this story. This does give me Lena viers. This does give me Lena. The whole weekend I had to hear about Janelle. Every time she mentioned her Janelle, I was like, who is Janelle? What are we talking about? Because she kept posting the TikToks throughout the weekend. Oh, she just posted a new one, rebuttaled to everyone. I'm like, what's happening? I love that Lena was on this feed. Yes. Oh, she'll be so sad. She must be so sad.

This is her hottest topic. Yes. She is a TikTok wellness influencer, and she faced backlash for admitting to using GLP-1s for weight loss, even though she sells $200 weight loss courses. Which is crazy. That's kind of crazy. I feel like...

Yeah, because she admitted to it just recently. Yes. Like this past weekend and she's been selling this weight loss course. I followed her since like the pandemic. You probably have seen her. Yes. She was the nurse that always ate the like cream cheese on peppers. Like she was just like obsessed with keto. She'd always have like a watch monitoring like what she eats, macros. Like she was definitely that person for so long. So I just always know her as being like a little obsessive about her weight and what she eats and stuff. So I didn't think anything of it, but –

Yeah, I wonder why she admitted to it. She admitted to using GLP-1s over the weekend. Yeah, she posted a video, a YouTube video, and she said that she uses GLP-1s as a tool to help her lose weight. She said,

And that she also had previously tried keto macros and workouts. Yeah. But she said GLP-1s are not magic. They don't change your lifestyle overnight. It's just a tool to help. I still had to show up, show up for my meals, track my macros, drink my water, go on walks, do my workouts, everything I already teach and believe in. It just helped me regain a sense of control and it's something that I don't want to be ashamed of. What's a macro?

It's a type of – I'm going to explain it really terribly. But it's a type of calorie or whatever and you're supposed to like monitor how much of those that you eat and that's supposed to be the key to like weight loss. I mean she said she took it to regain control but it's like she's always been very obsessed with calories and all this stuff that she talks about. Like I've followed her literally for like five years and I feel like she's like –

always been obsessed with it so like what did she need it for maybe it's how I mean this is just like benefit of the doubt I guess or my experience with GLP1 so I guess like yeah you can still like monitor it but you still kind of have the especially if it sounds like she is like obsessed then you have like the food noise maybe I hear that term a lot what is food noise it's kind of this like in the back of your mind you're thinking yeah food food food like oh what's for lunch doesn't everyone think that yeah

Surprisingly, no. What? I know. You don't think about what you're eating for lunch. I do. That's why I'm on GLP-1s. But even GLP-1s are not canceling out your food noise? I had to increase my dosage, actually, because it's still not really. It kind of is the thing where, like, when I start craving something, like, I'll think I'm craving something and I'll be so excited to eat. And then I, like, eat a little bit of it. I'm like, damn, I really can't even fathom eating more, if that makes sense. The GLP-1s make you feel healthy. Yes, yes.

Cause there were some, Oh, like we had Cane's two days ago, whatever. And like, I was so excited for it. And I always, Cane's, I always get like the big, whatever the big boy meal is the one where you get extra tender. And it's really expensive, but whatever. Um,

But I could only eat like two and a half tenders. And I was like, I really can't even fathom eating more. Did it taste good? Yeah, it still tasted the same, but I was just so full. That's crazy. So I do get that. So it actually shrinks your stomach or just like makes you feel full? I think it makes you – it gives the sensation of that – your stomach feeling like really, really tight and full. Yeah.

pretty early on is from my experience but yeah so she's one of that feeling more I guess because even if you're like when you're obsessed with it and you're still tracking whatever it's still like hard you know it's still hard like it you don't really have that freedom of like oh my god I can't just like eat whatever blah blah blah granted I'm not selling people a weight loss plan so yeah that's I

That's always the issue. I think it's when people aren't honest about it. And it's like, it's fine if you don't want to be honest or don't want to disclose it. I get that part. But if like your brand and this girl's brand is literally selling weight loss, like I said, I've followed her for so long. Like it's, yeah, you should disclose that right away. Yeah. Be like, these are my results with a GLP-1 too. Yeah. And I think obviously, I think she started doing the plan before she started GLP-1. She made it seem like she started it.

Yeah. But still, I think the second you're, like, even thinking about it, you gotta be... Put the disclaimer on there. If you're, like... If that's your whole thing. If you're selling the plan and people are buying this, so... Are people not happy? She got a lot of backlash. On TikTok or YouTube? Because I just love how on TikTok she goes, people are asking if I did GLP-1s. Well, the truth is, you have to go to my YouTube channel. It's like, all right. I've seen it everywhere. It's on her Instagram. It's on her TikTok. It's on her YouTube. It is kind of everywhere. Yeah. People are not... I think...

people to be honest especially if you're selling weight loss or body positivity like I think people just want it's I think that's what the main reason Kardashians get so much hate is because like just be honest that you got work and don't just say like it's just diet exercise of course that of course you have to do that of course you do like but I'm just saying like you have to show with the assistance of you know what's

It's wild to me that people don't disclose that. Yeah. And like one of the comments said, there isn't shame in taking GLP-1. The shame is when you fool your audience into thinking they can look like you if they eat and exercise like you do. So that's disappointing. So that really is kind of encapsulates the whole thing.

Yeah, especially an influencer, especially these type of influencers. Like this woman is like, you know, she's a regular person, but she has like followers. So it's like when that's you're only famous and rich because or making money, I should say, because of your followers and you're not authentic with them. I'm like, that's that's so shabby.

Yeah. And to her credit, though, she did say she will do a refund for anybody who bought a class in the last 11 months. So I guess in the period of her doing GLP ones. So if I don't know, that's giving her credit. It's like you scam people. It's at least something I guess. Right. Like she's at least refunding people. No. No.

She should have been honest from the get. Oh, I agree. But yeah. Now those people, not only because it's not only did you scam them, but they had 11 months of being like, wait, why don't I look like this? True. That is true. It's because we're taking GLP-1s. Yeah. So I hate that part of it.

Doing the macro stuff does help, but obviously GLP-1 is like a big, huge... Of course. Look at everyone getting boosted. Even before she started taking it, she wasn't getting the results she wanted. True. So she was selling something that didn't give her the results she wanted, so she went to something else, an extreme...

And then so it's – Yeah. No, it's shitty. I hate it because I follow her for a while. I still sync with her on feeds maybe. Maybe not after this but I think it's – yeah, I think that's like so – that's so – especially like people who like literally gave you like this like career. Yeah. Yeah. For being – because everybody like wants to be influencers because they make money and when you're just like a regular person –

That does something like... Like, this is your whole brand, and then you just ruin that. You, like, tarnish it. Yeah. It sucks. That's why I've been very transparent. When I first got skinny, Adderall helped me a ton. Did you say it when you got skinny? Yeah, when everyone... I think even when you came and you asked, I was like, well, I started Adderall.

I mean, again, when I was like bobblehead, um, because yeah, I mean, obviously I didn't have a trainer and I was like working out and stuff, but like that Adderall, like for someone who hasn't, um, was undiagnosed ADHD for like, how old was I? Like 25 years. And all of a sudden I start Adderall. It was a super small dosage. It was 10, but like it made my metabolism like

go so fast. That's great. That is wild. So anytime anyone asked, I was like, I don't know.

And then even when I started faux-Zempic, I was like, do you hope he wins? Yeah, you were like day one. Yeah. Like, that's what I'm doing. Yeah. So I think you just got to be like upfront. For sure. And then if people hate on you for being upfront about it, then that's like their problem. It's not yours. Yeah, at least you're not like lying or being authentic. For sure. If I ever – I would almost take it just for social media. I'd be like, oh, first day on Ozempic or whatever. It would give you content whenever you need it. I know. I'm so torn with it. Ultimately, I'm just like, I don't know. Maybe not.

I don't know. You know I'm torn. Who knows? But you know I'll be the first to say it for sure. Especially if I start getting – oh my gosh, you might not lose 100 pounds. I don't know. I've just been working out, you guys. Diet and exercise. And you did – if they do your gym and they tidy it up, you can just always say – although I still have those vivid memories of your Instagram story when you were just on that elliptical and you would show the time and it would be like damn near three hours. Three hours. And I'm like, you cannot get this woman off. But I wasn't.

I wasn't like losing weight. I was kind of maintaining weight. I wasn't losing weight. I was there for three hours and I really was there for three hours. And I just – it is hard. It's hard to lose weight. It is, yeah. That's why I don't knock a Manjaro if it's going to help you boost it up. Because I was doing that. I loved it. Oh my god. That was fun. We would watch like Nine Day Fiance for three hours. I'd just be down there so long. Yeah. I felt good after it. I need to get back to it. Those endorphins. Those endorphins do the trick. I'm going to work out again. We're putting that into our schedule. A daily walk.

We used to do it a lot. The first time we used to walk on the beach together and just... You used to walk all the time. You were a walkaholic. Yeah, walking. I mean, for me, walking is the way. The way of life? Is there more to it? Of losing weight, being healthy, all the stuff you talk about. You were walking to lose weight? You were so skinny when I met you. It's everything. It's strength. It's your back. It's your core. It's everything. It's just healthy to walk. That you're like...

But I was maintaining. I mean, it was helping me maintain because I could eat and gain. When I first met you, you would say you forget to eat. You're like, I forgot to eat. I was like, what does that mean you forgot to eat? You work and run around. That's crazy. The thing when you work from home, it's easier to kind of like, okay, order food. But when you're going from place to place and you're like, I don't want to stop over there. I don't want to take an hour now in traffic. So you can very easily get to a point where like, oh man, it's four o'clock and

Am I getting dinner now or am I... I can't relate to that. Forget to eat? Well, since you're wearing a Protect the Doll shirt... Yes. Um...

Did you see the response from John Lithgow, who is in the new Harry Potter series? He responded to the backlash that he got for joining the Harry Potter reboot. Is this the boomer? Yes, he is quite old. Is he from like Third Rock from the Sun or something? Or is that someone else? He was in Conclave. What is Conclave? The Pope movie about electing the Pope. So he's old. Yes, he is old. I'm already scared. That's why people...

People kept saying the name for our baby, Conclave. Oh, yeah, the movie. I was like, why? Okay, that's why. No, not Conclave. Oh, my God. Okay. What did he have to say? I'm scared. Well, there was even, like, an open letter from, like, fans of his for asking him to, like, not take on this role. Who's he playing? I believe he's Dumbledore. Okay. Yeah. Yeah.

And he said, of course, it was a big decision because it's probably the last major role I'll play because it's an eight-year commitment. So... Did he die? And he's old. So... How old is he? Let me see his age. Damn. He's like, this is it for me. He doesn't care. He's like, it's eight years, you guys. That's it. He's 79. So, I mean, yeah. Okay. Yeah. He'll be like, what? He'll be 87. Yeah. Oh, my gosh. Okay. That's sad. Yeah.

Eight years? For like what? Oh, is that how long? What? Because it'll be eight seasons and a season a year. Is it just a remake? It's going to be a Max or HBO Max, whatever series instead of a movie. So a series for each book. And I'm assuming, I guess, for the last book, two seasons.

And he said that he received an open letter. It was called an open letter to John Lithgow. Please walk away from Harry Potter. And he was even sent this letter by a very good friend of his who is a mother of a trans child. And his response to it was, why is this a factor at all? I wonder how J.K. Rowling has absorbed it. I suppose at a certain point I'll meet her and I'm curious to talk to her. And he asked, he got asked at the backlash, made him reconsider the role. And he said, oh, heavens, no.

So his first question was why is this a factor? What does that mean? Like, why do people even care that, like... Oh, my God. Yeah, like, why...

Why should this, like, influence the series? Why should the series not happen just because J.K. Rowling is transphobic, I guess? Very actively, currently. Yeah, that's the thing, too. It's not even just, like, transphobia. It's, like, she's succeeding in, like, ruining. Getting more money to, like. Fund other legislation that could, like, put trans lives at risk. Yeah. Yeah. It's, like, literally harming people, putting people's lives in danger. So that's probably why people care. That's. Ugh.

I hate to say it, but sometimes it's like when the older generation leaves us, it's almost like – it's like shedding skin. It's like, you know what? New – okay, finally a new can come. Because it's like they just won't get it. You're like – you could explain it to this guy, but he's just not going to get it obviously. And it's just like – it's just sad. And honestly, just kind of, you know, let them –

go i guess yeah it's like crazy though that a friend of yours is giving you this like sending you this art letter and you know that your friend has a trans child and there's no part of you that can empathize and be like hmm is the check that good i mean obviously the money is going to be good yes but like how desperately do you need it and especially if you feel like you're going to be dead in eight years then yeah you don't need it yeah and he's been on big tv shows john let the go has definitely been on like third rock from the sun and like big broadway shows like he's definitely

Yeah. If like someone close to you sent that to you and once you – and if you got like an open letter, wouldn't you be like, maybe I should look into this? Because again, I've been ignorant to stuff, but it's like sometimes when you're like the whole like internet's crashing down on you, you're like, maybe something is wrong with the way I'm thinking. Yeah.

Yeah, it's harmful. It's dangerous. And the fact that he's like even – that was his – like why did you make – how did he make the response? Did he tweet it or what did he do? He did an interview with Variety. Oh, yeah. His PR person was not on top of it. I know. He needed Bill Belichick's girlfriend to be like not answering this. Yeah, where was his person? Where was his – yeah. He needs an handler for sure.

These old men, Jason Isaacs too, it's like they need to just get someone on it. You know what I mean? And not to generalize that for just old people in general, but they just seem a little out of touch, which is fine. We'll probably be out of touch when we're like, you know, 70, but I'll have someone to help correct me, little Elvis or Malibu. Yeah, but actually we don't use that terminology. Yeah. Yeah, that's what, period. That's what happens in Tim Allen's new show, Shifting Gears. His Gen Z grandchildren keep him in line. They're like, no, we can't say that anymore. It's just so disappointing. I don't understand how –

Warner Brothers didn't button this up. Like, how did you not do anything? Sign some kind of contract to shut her up? I know. JK Rowling up just so you could avoid this. I'm actually surprised it even got greenlit because she's so outspoken and the stuff she's outspoken about, especially the time of it all. It's just so odd. Yeah. And then did you see how she shaded Pedro Pascal? No. Oh, yeah. He wore a Protect the Dolls shirt at the Thunderbolts movie premiere in London. Yeah.

And he and J.K. Rowling shaded him, like, pretending to not even know who Pedro Pascal is. I was like, as if he's not in Game of Thrones, Star Wars, Marvel, The Last of Us. He's literally in every big franchise. Every single thing. Yeah. And he's all over the place. Don't even pretend. What did she say? Like, someone tweeted J.K. Rowling making fun of Pedro. And then she chimed in as if, like, she didn't even know who he was or whatever. I'm like, please. No. Please. Everyone knows Pedro. Oh, my God.

I'm so annoyed. It's so annoying. Is he British? Pedro? Yeah. No, he's from, he's Chilean. And he was, did he have a British accent in Game of Thrones? No, I don't even really remember him in Game of Thrones to be honest. I think they were all British in that show except for Peter Dinklage. But I guess not, I guess not him. I feel like, yeah. He must have had an accent. Maybe, but. I don't remember him in it either. It was a smaller role. It wasn't like a huge role, but. He went to high school with someone famous recently. I just saw. David Harbour. They did theater together or theater class. In Chile? In Chile?

Not Chilean. I don't know if he grew up in Chile. Oh, but his background. Yes, yeah, he's Chilean. Where did he go to high school? I don't know. Because I saw that yearbook photo and I was like, oh. So that's why I was like, okay. Is David Harbour Chilean? No. I don't think so. Oh, okay.

You know what I love when I meet people at the shows and they'll say, I'm Peruvian. I'm like, oh, that's so cool. And they're like, like Oscar. I love. That's so cute. Yeah. It's always so cool. You're the Peruvian influencer. Idol. I'll take it, I guess. I love it. Yeah. Yeah. Any of the famous Peruvians out there? There's got to be some, right? Interesting. Let me see. I'm actually curious. I feel like there's a lot of famous Cubans, but. Yeah. Yeah.

um none that i recognize yeah and no like no one immediately recognizable like name wise oh interesting yeah wow now i gotta make it big to you're the peruvian maybe you i gotta make it for my uh you know those sites like most like famous birthdays and stuff it'll say like the number one like top rated celebrity you might be that have you ever typed your name in there

Well, I'm not even – when I Google famous Peruvians, I'm not even on the list. Oh, you're not on the list. No. On Google, so – Because sometimes those websites will be like most famous person with a May 8th birthday. I'm like right under Enrique Iglesias. Yeah. That's fierce. But there's other categories too. It's like famous people from Riverside, California. There's always different categories. I wonder if you moved up on famous birthdays. I'm actually going to – No, I'm definitely number three. I think it's Enrique Iglesias. You moved up to number one. Over – is there like Tekashi69 or something? He's number two.

number one? We moved up to number one on famous birthdays. Who's number three? Dallas Mendoza. Oh, okay. Love that. Enrique's not on the list? I don't see him on here. What? Maybe he really fell. He's definitely made. I don't see him on here. Oh my god.

David Attenborough is number four. Does he play Demodoro? He's a host. Oh. A TV show host. Ethan Wacker is number five. Who's Ethan Wacker? It says he's an actor. Oliver Bierman, he's a race car driver. Ayo Sky, a wrestler. Desmond Dennis, R&B singer. Stephen Amell, I do know.

He's number nine TV actor. Number 10, Enrique Iglesias, pop singer. He is number 10. He was always number one. He fell a lot. Yeah. You've taken over. Oh my God. Number one and person born and made. That's big. That's huge news. Wow. I'm so honored.

I love it. Shout out famous birthdays. Thank you for making it happen. Shout out for, it's May today. So today is May Day, everybody. Happy May to all my Taurus May babies out there. Also to the Gemini May babies because Elvis is one of you. We also applaud you. May's going to be a good month. I feel it. It's your birthday. Gender reveal, gay music video, birthday party, Mother's Day, tour, Elvis's birthday, Lilo and Stitch. It's going to be so much fun. Club. Vegas. Yes. Not the club. Not the club.

I just looked. Pedro Pascal went to middle school in Orange County, California. Oh, wow. Which part of Orange County? I mean, Orange County is pretty small. Alamitos High School. What is it? Alamitos? Alamitos. Alamitos. Oh, okay. I didn't know he was an Orange County kid. Me either. I never thought that. Okay, Cali boy. I love that. Yeah. He's like you. I love Pedro.

California boys. Did you see the, you mentioned the gender reveal. Did you see the Lele, how do you say her name? Let me see. Lele Pons. Lele Pons. Gender reveal? No. You did not see that? No, what is it? I'm just trying to get ideas for ours. What did she do? Oh my gosh. So everyone is wearing like raincoats. Oh my gosh. What? Did you see this? No. I'll show you. Oh, she's lit it.

Twice. Oh, no. Lele Pons slipped? Twice. Pregnant. Wait, what? What is this? What came out? Was that paint? Yeah, because they're all like in raincoats of some kind, you know, like, and then there's liquid. So one side is blue, one side is pink.

Is she okay? Was she celebrating? That's so scary. And her partner just ran forward, not even looking back, you know, and she slipped once and then slipped again. Why did he run forward? Yeah, people get excited and they just jump. I mean, that is a crazy gender reveal. That is wild. I've never seen paint. Why did they do that? I mean, that's so sad. I guess she's okay. I'm hoping she's okay. That's crazy. She seems to be okay in the rest of her life. Oh, my God. Like falling when you're pregnant, too, is just like, ooh, so scary. I guess I like that I...

The idea – in practicality, no. But I think the idea is kind of – What's the idea behind it? What are you visualizing? Like, oh, you're in raincoat. Like, you're wearing all white. You have the little coats on. And then you're going to be covered in the color of whatever to represent whatever gender. I guess that – in theory. But, yeah, in practicality, then you're slippery. You're sticky. You're, like, wet and goopy. Yeah, like you can't go hug people in hair and makeup. Yeah.

All right. Well, you don't want to do that on stage. No, we have other plans for our gender reveal. It's going to be a big one. I was thinking something small and then the Greek was like, well, actually we can do this. I was like, all right, let's do it. We're just going to bring our little, you know, you pull the string and he does a little. Like last time. Yeah. I really did think that. That's what we did. Yeah. So.

Be safe out there. Gender reveals really can be dubious. I think everyone needs to like chill a little bit. They can start wildfires. I think that happened once. Yes. Oh my gosh. Be careful out there. Sparklers are happening. Wasn't there one there was another viral gender reveal where like

got, it was like a cannon or something and it got like projected out for the gender reveal. But then it, one of the people's like friends or family was sitting front row and I forget what it was, but it projected and it hit him square in the face and then like fell backwards because it got like pushed out with such force. Oh. Gender reveals are kind of dangerous. They are dangerous. They are a little silly. I mean, we're doing ours. We love a gender reveal because it's exciting, whatever. But it's like, they're kind of like silly.

But it is crazy how invested people are in it. People with ours are just like obsessed with like, why are you having? And I was like, that's so funny. People analyze everything because like I've seen so many that get criticized where, you know, the partner, like he ran to his mom or his mom ran to him instead of going to your partner. I see that a lot. I see when they run to their mom. The mother-in-law or the mother-in-law tries to steal the show. Or they come in to like hug the son. Yeah. It's like, it is crazy, but.

I mean they're fun. I guess they're exciting. It is kind of fun to be like, what is it? That's funny though. How do you see that? Just on TikTok? I mean not funny, it's like sad. Yeah, yeah. It was one of my hot topics. Gender reveal hot topics. I wonder how you're going to feel about this. Alex Cooper revealed that she wants to turn down an $8 million brand deal.

A what? No, I haven't heard this. What's the context? I know why you missed it. Because it was on Harry Jowsey's podcast. She was on Harry Jowsey's? Oh, it's on her network, right? Ew. I mean, like, let's... I literally had to block Harry Jowsey on Twitter just because he is doing ads now on X or Twitter for his OF. And he, like...

Every like five tweets, it's like something for Jesus and then something for Harry Jowsey. I'm like, okay, Jesus, whatever, I guess. Wait, what do you mean for Jesus? Some random person's like, are you Christian? Like it's just a random Christian person promoting Christianity. Random, okay. I feel like Christianity is like the least needing of advertisements. Oh, and he's promoting it? This random Twitter person, yeah. Because now just random people on Twitter can do like promotions. Oh, okay. Anyway, so half my ads are Christians.

The other half is Harry Javese. And it's like these same two photos of Harry Javese lifting his shirt up in a mirror. And it's like, should I shave? And then a wink and a wink to his OS. I've seen those too. Really? You too? Yes, I've seen those too. Because I was like, what is this? Me too. I literally had to block him because I'm like, I cannot see this anymore. I don't give a f*** if you shave or not. Shave what? Your abs? That's what I saw. What are we shaving? So weird. Who gives a f***?

I want to interview someone who is paying for Harry Jowsey's LF because I have questions. I have a lot of questions. Why are you doing that? Do you just have so much money that you're wasting it on Harry Jowsey? Like, please let me know. Well, I guess I could see why. That I could see. I mean, I guess he is, like, attractive. But he doesn't even show anything. It's my friend Art.

had the same manager as him for a while. So he's just... No, but he like will post in the messages like unlock this to see everything and it's like nothing. Yes. I do hate that too. So like... The original scammers. Honestly...

worse than everything I've fallen victim to that too it's like come on now there has to be like you know the FTC came in to crack down on like when influencer brand deals were getting crazy there's gotta be something to crack down on like this false promises on Wild West up there on OF yeah it's getting nuts but anyway is it still the same podcast what's his podcast called? Boyfriend Material oh so it's the same one same one yeah I remember he started just like sitting by himself in front of a grass wall I think he realized that

It was worse than watching paint dry. Like, I think I would rather watch paint dry. So does he have guests now all the time or just Alex? Last time he had Bob the Drag Queen on and now he has Alex Cooper. Wow. He's getting the bookings. Yeah, I love that. But anyway, Alex Cooper revealed that she once turned down an $8 million brand deal. Harry asked her, what's the most money you've turned down? And...

Aria was gagged that she turned it down for that much money. But she didn't say what the product or the brand was. But Alex said that she felt uncomfortable putting her face next to it and standing by it. And she said that the deliverables were also, like, a lot. Like, she didn't say what they were asking, but she made it seem like it was not just, like, one post. That it was, like, you know, multiple things. Yeah. And... Oh, she said she was not comfortable putting her face next to it. So, it's probably, like, a deal. Must be something contrary. Oh, maybe you're right, but...

eight million dollars for dill and that was like her brand right she always was the sex oh yeah um but she said i think it's important to say no to because otherwise you just lose your effing credibility so that made me think it was something like i don't know maybe the new harry potter she's like i won't promote harry potter that'd be fierce i would love that would you turn on eight million dollars to promote harry potter

It depends what the... Also, Alex Cooper is fine. Like, she's so rich. Like, $8 million, she's okay. But for me, that's, like, life-changing money, right? Yeah, yeah. And it depends, like, if the contract, like, I wouldn't be able to be, like, in the next episode be, like, FJK Rowling. Like, she is sick, evil, nasty. They would definitely put that. It would definitely be, like, you can't talk about disparaging about this person ever. No, you can donate a million to that charity we talked about earlier. Like, you can take it to...

Oh my God, it's tough. Like for a normal person, that is tough. For Alex Cooper, obviously I feel like that's a lot easier of a decision. But even for me, like you said, 8 million is like life changing. That's literally like, okay. It is a lot. Oh my God. But okay, for me, I still have a normal job. For you, I don't, how would you still do it? You have a lot of bougie jobs over there, bougie. I really want to, but...

You have your breath control. You buy it. More money in your bank account than I do. I have a 9 to 5. You have bougie, though. You're in entertainment. Entertainment is like the cheapest paying of all the industries, I gotta tell you. Unless you're Florence Pugh or Zendaya. But...

For you, if you did an $8 million Brando, Harry Potter, how could you show your face on Just Tristan next week? I don't know. You'd have to replace me with Spillstache or something. I don't know. Oh, really? I think people would be pissed at me. But, you know, influencing isn't my thing. $8 million. Yeah, I guess I'd have to. I don't know. That's so hard. That is hard.

It depends on what it is. It depends on what it is. Yeah, I want to know now what hers was. Because, yeah, I would say, yeah, if it was, like, a political person I didn't agree with, I don't think I could do it for a million. Okay, T, I don't think so either. Because that – I also was thinking, well, Tana said that, like, allegedly – Tana alleges that Trump's campaign was, like, hiring influencers to endorse him or whatever, right? And I was like –

Something like that, I guess if I don't agree politically, I'm like, well, that's something I wouldn't be able to do. Can't be like an anti-gay campaign all of a sudden. Yeah. So – Yeah, because I would turn $8 million down for – I mean, yeah, you'd have to. You'd have to. Yeah, for like a political thing. Because we just talked about losing a relationship with your audience and not – Yeah, true. That would be really sad. Oh, my God. They would use that clip again. It's so quick. I would just peace out. I'm like, okay, bye, guys. But, you know. Would you? Yeah. For $8 million? Yeah. Because I don't –

I don't even know how I would make – how many years it would take me to make $8 million. But what if it ran out and then you couldn't come back? Well, I would still have my normal job. You would keep ET? Yeah. You'd take $8 million and keep ET? Yeah. Well, then it's not life-changing because you're still working at ET. Well, it's the backup. You know I love a backup plan. Oh, my God. That's so funny.

Or like Darian will be an architect or something. So I guess I have my eight million. Darian can – That's true. Build things, design buildings. I don't know. But – So you'll take it for the Harry Potter promo. I mean it depends on what it is and I have to read the fine print and the contract. Yeah. But I don't know. Just because eight million is so much. But for Alex Cooper – Yeah. She just had like $160 million deal. Yeah. So she's like, that's fine. She can turn it down. A little odd touch to be like, I turned down $8 million. Like I –

I guess it's shocking and it's crazy. I guess it's like me with music videos. She needed to give Harry Jowsey a headline. She's like, damn, what can I do for my client Harry? What did he say? Was there a follow-up? He was just kind of gagged by it. There really was not much follow-up. He just asked, are you effing serious? How did she... She didn't say anything more. That was a conversation. No details. You know, that's how...

The Unwell Network kind of does things. It's like, you know. Do a follow-up. Be like, tell us. Give us a hint. You know, something. He's like, all right. Moving on. I'm not really a follow-up kind of journalist. Did he have questions prepared? I don't think. Actually, to his credit, I did only see an article about this and then went to the Boyfriend Material Instagram page.

And found that one clip. Okay. Yeah. And that's as far as I got into it. Do you prefer podcasts where people are, like, they have questions ready to go? Or do you like a conversation where they're just talking and it doesn't even have to be about them? I think it's very circumstantial and situational. Like, some people are very entertaining. Like, there's some, like, streamers, for example. Like, it's not like I watch...

Shout out Janix Penn. I watch Janix Penn. She doesn't have things planned, but she's naturally just very entertaining. Right. But there's some where it's like you really need to have some kind of organization because your thoughts are all over the place and you're also not that entertaining. So even you just kind of riffing isn't tea, you know? So it kind of has to be situational based on who is...

in front of the mic. Because you like to have something prepared because for our Patreon today, you're like, let's ask some questions for our mukbang where as opposed to me, I'm like, it's a mukbang. I loved it. We're doing it. I think that's a good idea but it's so interesting. You're always like that because even another time too, you're like, oh, I like to have something to talk about while we do the mukbang. The mukbang is the video but I get what you're saying though. That's why I trust your

and put it on the Patreon because I was like, oh, that makes sense. And to say like with like Patreon, we film, we like bulk film. So like some stuff that we talk about isn't relevant by the time it actually goes up. A Q&A, evergreen, kind of always timely. You sound so much like Moses because I remember when I was

going on maternity leave and I'm going on maternity leave again for like a week or two or whatever when you're about to give birth he's always like you guys should just do a generic episode that can be posted whenever I was like boring I like to hear what's happening now you know or talk about what's happening but that makes sense that makes sense so they can watch it anytime I'm telling you guys our last night love line will be like May 21st but then Tana will be back and it literally is like we just watched the White Lotus finale yeah

And we, like, kind of stopped talking about it. I was like, oh, my God, this is going to be so dated. But I just love talking about a hot topic, you know? It does remind me of, like, your OG YouTube days when you would, like – again, you would mukbang into the cars and stuff. But you were so, like, scheduled in advance. I'd be, like, three weeks late talking about it. Mine would be, like, a month. I would have a month of videos ready to go at all times. I was so scared. I don't know why. Like, I was going to be busy forever.

Like, that was never the case. So I had so many videos where sometimes I would just put, like, two up a day because I had so many. I feel like you were probably influenced because your whole group or whatever were very much, like, production people who were so planned out, like, with their upload schedule and everything. So you're like, damn, I guess I got to do it too. Oh, and I would, like, every day. I would post every single day because when the Athens was good, I was like, let me just post every single day. Now it's, like, crazy. It's, like, not even anywhere what it used to be. I was Vlogmas year-round with you. Oh, I...

Oh, Vlogmas is crazy. I would do two a day. I was like obsessed with Vlogmas. I'd have the vlogging channel and the main channel and I was just posting everywhere on Vlogmas. So funny. So much work. Where's your vlog? Where's the Broadway vlog? I'm just doing it.

You stopped. Vlogging? Did you give up? Temporarily, but there's stuff that I have in my brain that I've been filming some stuff. Your brain is crazy. I've been filming some stuff and I have an idea, but yeah, it'll come soon. Did you film when you did the podcast, Cuties in Nevada? No, I was too scared to vlog with them.

Although I meant to take like Instagram photos, but then I forgot my freaking influencer camera that I bought to take photos of. And I'm like, damn, because I really wanted a photo with Ted Nivison. But I didn't – I don't know. I was kind of like shook that he was there. So we'll have Ted back at some point for those maternity leave videos I think. Yeah, be on it. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, we'll have him on. Paige is a vlogger now. Tana's ex-assistant. Is Paige vlogging? She was vlogging in Vegas. And I'm so impressed when people vlog because it is –

It is a lot. To like think of it, to bring it, to – Do it. To do it. Yeah. Yeah, because when there's like a flow. I love it. I love it. If someone wants to vlog, I'm always like, yes, because it's like so old school. It reminds me of just like back in the day. And it's cool because then she posted the vlog of the Vegas show and it's like cool to watch it back. It's like, oh, that's so cool. But it's a lot of work. So when I see people do it, I applaud it. Yeah. Yeah. And at least Paige is like doing like interesting stuff. Like I'm not – You went to my Broadway show. Yeah. And I vlogged that.

Well, where is it? I want to... I actually want to see it because I want to see the footage you captured.

That's why I love TikToks too. I do love seeing like my show because I love when people capture. Some of the TikToks are going so viral. Oh my God. There was one of me dressed as like a yellow outfit with a Culver's apron and a cheese head singing Pink Pony Club. It has like literally 4 million views right now. It's like so crazy. And it's like just like literally 20 seconds of me singing. I love it. I think people think Pink Pony Club is my song because like every show everyone asks for like I swear that's like the number one. People like chant it. It's like shallow and that. I'm like I wonder if they think it's my song. I don't know if they think it's my song.

- No, 'cause everyone asks for that. Shallow I get 'cause I made the video, okay, it's like a thing, but Pink Pony Club was like never my thing. - I think 'cause your cosplay was just so good that it was like, damn. - When Malibu sees Chapel on TV, she says, "Mom." - See? - Yeah, that is true. That's tea. That's so funny.

Any in Chapel Rowan news? No, she's been quiet the past couple days. Yes, it's like the shove or whatever. So she's kind of just been chilling. She was on, I guess, WMAG lately. But yeah, she's kind of just doing her thing. I don't know. I don't know. Yeah. Got to see if Misha wants to come to the show. Maybe she does. I think she's back in Texas. I get terrified to invite...

performers are real creatives to my show because it's just so – I love my show. I love it and people love it when they come back. It's like so much fun. But if I was like – someone like Ben Platt was there, I'd be like, oh, I don't know. I don't know if I want you to see this. Really? Really?

But I think they'll see the crowd loving it. They'll be like, wow, this is it. This must be so good. I think even if you're the most nonjudgmental person, there's a little judgment. Be like, what is this? Why is there no music? Why is there no set? You know what I mean? It's just kind of, yeah, it's hard to get unless you get it. So I get very nervous if anyone of any sort of creative or talent position wants to come. Even my own agents at CA, when they come to the New York show, I'm very nervous. I'm like, oh, I don't know. It just makes me nervous.

This one too, there's a lot of CAA. I'm like, I don't have time to unsign me. They're like, oh my God. Girl, you told us you want to be on Broadway. You know what I mean? That kind of thing. I don't know. I feel like it'll just convince people even more. Maybe some casting agent will be there to scout you. A casting agent from Wisteria Lane, the spinoff. And then you'll be like, wow, we got to get her on. Maybe I should do a monologue at this show in LA. Yeah, you got to just in case. A little Hamlet. To be or not to be. I don't know if Hamlet is the way to go. No, you should actually feel like they...

Shots from with Daryl Lane like from the show and you should be in it. I don't think I have enough time Just do a self-tape like Jojo and tangled, you know, and just play it Done and done I can do that easily I can edit it perfect. Okay, I'll put a little reel together

Like for the halftime. Be like, hey, if you're an agent. No, I have an agent. If you're a casting producer out there, contact my agent at CA. Or no, it's LA. Everyone knows someone, you know. That is true. It is funny how people do know. It's so small in a way. Yeah, it's like all connected. Because if the new show is in current time, they need an influencer.

Yeah. You know, like the whistle down of Wisteria Lane, the influencer that... The whistle down of Wisteria Lane. Right. You know what I mean? Like somebody that is... The gossiper, the influencer. I would love to be an influencer. I hate when they... But I think I'm too old to play the influencer. I think they'd probably want like a 20-year-old to be an influencer. You never know. You never know. You're the... Yeah, like mom talk. Yeah, and you have the daughter that is and...

Oh my god, that's crazy to be like I could have a daughter on that show. Like that is crazy. Like Zac Efron played a dad in something and I was like, that's crazy. When he was just like a little kid in High School Musical. I think I'm not old enough to be a parent. I think I'm still too young. I'm like a teen mom over here.

You're not old enough to be a parent. Yeah. I feel like that sometimes. Like I feel like I'm too young. I feel that every day actually. Right. Yeah. When I'm babysitting, I'm like, I don't know how I could do this 24 hours a day for the rest of my life. Yeah. Like responsible for their life, for their feeding. Entertainment. Entertainment. Yeah. It is quite a commitment. So mama kudos. It's a commitment. With my bag. Yeah.

Oh, yeah. Kudos, Mama. Especially at the age Elvis is. They're just crawling and she's just like rolling. You just got to catch them everywhere they're going. You're like, ah. You're just like on top of them. I'm like, yeah, it's scary. Jojo Siwa was back on The Vile Files.

Recently? Yes. Oh, how did I not see this? I think the stress came out like today because she did an interview, an update. Yeah, literally today, April 30th. JoJo loves a straight man. You know what I mean? She loves to be with the men. Honestly, T, yeah, because she loves Nick Viles. She loves Tyler Cameron. Chris Hughes. Chris Hughes. Those are her people. All right. Well, she went on Vile Files and spoke out about her breakup from Cath Ebbs.

And she said that Kath cussed her out and that is what kind of led to JoJo breaking up with them at the big celebrity big brother after party. What did JoJo say? I am so happy where I'm at right now that I just want to stay here. Whatever that means, whatever this is, I'm great here. Obviously, a lot of people think that Chris had something to do with it, meaning the breakup.

But she said, Chris does not have Chris does not have absolutely anything to do with it. Chris and I are friends. We have a very, very great friendship. And then responding to Kath's TikTok where they talked about the breakup, Jojo said that that's not entirely the story. She said, all of a sudden we're at the wrap party for Big Brother. I'm getting cussed out. I understand they're angry and they're coming at me. But I also keep reiterating it like I'm not in a place to talk.

Well, you can see that. I mean, Chris Olsen actually said it in a TED Talk this morning. He said, you know, never trust a story that doesn't have like two sides to it. You know, I think that probably is the case. I don't like...

you know, back a little what I said last episode is like, I do feel bad for Kath. Like, I mean, that is awful. Like, you are in a relationship. The beginning is like, I love this person so much. And then by the end of it, it's like, yeah, you're kind of getting emotionally cheated on or just, I don't know, made it look a little silly, I suppose. And that is hard and not fair. And yeah, I mean, I'm sure, like I said, if that was, you know, Moses with Gabby Wendy, I'm sure I would also be cussing him out, you know, and be like, oh my gosh, what the hell. But it's like, you know, it's

I think there's... I think both of them probably have something to do with it because obviously, yeah, JoJo's... JoJo wasn't exhibiting relationship behavior on the show. Yeah, T. And then JoJo also said that Kath requested that she doesn't discuss their relationship or their breakup. Yeah.

And that, quote, out of respect for another human in this situation, they have asked to not speak about it. For me, not to speak about them. I told them, I said, look, that's going to make me seem like I'm an avoidant of the situation. And I am not an avoidant. So she is going to reference it and talk about it. Kath asked not to be talked about. Kath asked JoJo to not talk about them. And JoJo said, look, I have to talk about it at some point. That's a tough one, too. That is a tough one. I feel like you kind of have to.

You kind of have to. Yeah. You can be respectful, but you kind of have to. Kath was public with her too. Yeah. In the relationship. So I do feel it's kind of like, well, you entered that public relationship, but. Yeah. So there's. But then it's tough. If someone came to me and was like, don't talk about me anymore on the show. Like if Shane was like, hey, can you stop talking about me? I mean, I probably would. Even if he's a public figure and doing dubious things, I still probably like, I guess if it's like really bothering you. Yeah.

I think for JoJo, though, like this is like JoJo is one half of the story, like literally half of the story because it's her relationship. That relationship is like the headline like internationally because it's all over the big headline in the UK and in America. Yeah, right. It's like the story that everyone's kind of obsessed with right now. So you got to say something. What was the title of Nick Vile's podcast? Oh, good question. I always love a title. Going Deeper with JoJo Siwa. Oh.

Okay. Random. Okay. Thank you over there. I'll do the titles and thumbnails. What's the thumbnail? Let's see. Is it far away? I hate when they do far away thumbnails. I like them up close. I was looking at Spotify, but let me see what they did on YouTube. Okay. That's kind of kooky. Okay. And the Going Deeper title is crazy, but okay. Yeah, it is tough. I don't know the answer to that because it's like, oh, God. Yeah, if someone asked me to not talk about that at a relationship level, I'd be like, I don't know. It's tough. I think it's so situational. Yeah. Yeah.

they you i feel like everyone's at least title entitled to um saying their piece at least and you can be respectful about it like i'm not saying jojo should disparage kath or whatever but at least like say her side of the story right you know that really eloquent chris olsen uh tick tock that you reference i like there are two sides yeah um

So I think, yeah, JoJo's at least entitled to be like, you know, well, this is what my side of it. Yeah. But not like, you know, go into detail and like, you know, put Kath on blast or anything like just do it respectfully. Like there's a middle ground there.

there maybe yeah I don't know I don't know how long this is gonna follow Jojo though like it is the story right now but yeah I wonder like what is next if she gets into another relationship right after I will be like come on now I know I think at that point we just like let it go and it's on that person be like it's on you because you've seen this all play out and I think she needs like a year of singlehood yeah and self-exploration maybe a retreat or something ooh yeah a white lotus trip or something her on white lotus would be crazy haha

That'd be wild. Oh, my gosh. She should play herself if she's not like this. Mike White is watching that tingle friggin' audition and being like, damn. I would hire her instantly. Immediately. I would. For real. I thought she was so good. I thought she ate. What do you think someone like him does on a normal day? You have this huge show. It's so successful. And then what happens after it's over? Like when you're done done? Like just now. Oh, I'm sure he's probably... The next one's probably in pre-production, don't you think? You think you just go right away to work another one? Maybe. I mean...

I feel like sometimes they have like a nice like a couple months off, like a few months of just like nothing. But then pre-production on shows starts up so early because it is such a long process with like casting, crews, location. They use so many locations. And yeah, obviously they have like the four seasons, but there's – they use so many other like exterior shots. Why four seasons? I guess they just have some kind of deal that was – They do? I believe so, yeah. That was put in place after the success of the first season. Yeah.

But even in like the Thai season, like they still were shooting in other hotels for like different exteriors and stuff. Oh, really? Yeah. I read like a breakdown of all the locations they shot. And it's like even though it was still the White Lotus, it was still other hotels that they were using for different areas. Did you see Matt King had a paid partnership to go to the White Lotus Thailand Hotel that they used the Four Seasons? Isn't that crazy? I don't know.

Like the actual hotel where the main pool stuff was. It was paid partnership, White Lotus, Four Seasons Thailand. Isn't that crazy? Where was this? On TikTok. Hold on. Yeah. Yeah. I think he had like three or four from there. Yeah. In early March, we flew to Thailand with American Express to live out our White Lotus fantasy in Four Seasons Hotel's Koh Samui hotel.

uh delivered folks oh my god so crazy american express what the hell what's happening amex ambassador he turned off comments oh i wonder why he said the advertiser has turned off comments maybe american express just maybe he's like a sponsored post or something yeah oh my god yeah that doesn't make sense they must have put money behind it because it has so many views that they must have like so weird i know it's like so odd what

Yeah. I'm going to go through, like, who else did they pick for this? It's just so odd because, like, Matt King has just, like, never been, like, an influencer. Like, he's just not, like, popular. You know what I mean? Like, it's just such a weird person to pick, but he gets major brand deals. I don't know. They, the other influencers are Chloe Bailey. I guess she makes more sense to me. Which one is Chloe Bailey? She, Halle Bailey's sister. Okay, okay. Um.

I don't know who Jake Miller is, but they took him to a music festival. Interesting. I wonder, I want to know who was like doing the influencer list at these brands that they should like. Someone that doesn't know anything. Always, always. The people they pick, I'm just like, who is what?

They're like, someone just somewhere's like, oh, he's really influential. I'm like, okay, well, fuck him. So weird. It is so random. And also, like, do they need the promotion? Like, American Express and what? Four Seasons? It's like, what? And HBO. And HBO. Like, what? It's so weird. When the show is over? We said March, so maybe it was beginning. They went in March. He posted this the beginning of April. Okay, so like in the midst.

He posted this on 4-4. Okay. So before the finale. April 8th was the finale because I missed it. Oh, so the week before he posted it. Yeah. But everyone was already into the White Lotus by then. Yeah. No one needs to watch – to be encouraged to watch the finale. And they flew him out in March. So the White Lotus was already on and already a hit. What? And American Express. Like, are you going to go get American Express because Matt King is a partner? Yeah.

Or go to Thailand? Like, was anyone influenced by Matt King to go to Thailand versus the White Lotus show? Maybe that part, I want to go to Thailand. I'm not knocking. I'll take it. American Express. Pay me. I want to go to Thailand. Literally, that is mind-boggling. I know. That is truly mind-boggling. Sometimes I'm just like, what is going on? Like, who...

Some people just, I'm saying, brands have too much money sometimes and are just investing in weird things. I don't know. That is very true. I want to know, like, the rate. I wish he would leak his, like, Miss Hermione Ashton accidentally did. I would die to know. Just knowing the rates. I would die to know. Maybe he didn't get paid. Maybe he got $800. Maybe he got $80,000. Who knows? He does have, like, 500,000 followers on TikTok. That is a good amount. Yeah. Okay. That's better. Yeah. Because when I knew him, he wasn't really, like, an influencer. He kind of just, like, hung out with a bunch of people. Supporting, yeah. Supporting character, but. Supporting character.

That's wild. We love a supporting character. That is wild. I feel like we should do a protest where we stop talking about brand deals just because we are giving them more bang for the buck. Like now, you know, people know they can sponsor Remy and they get just Trish. Not only did they get a pretty basic, they got a pretty basic. Then they get just Trish all looped in. Just pretty basic unfiltered over here.

That is so true. That was going to keep paying her because they're like, Tricia can't stop talking about it. It'll be a hot topic. We got to freaking start putting our foot down. You're right. Let's censor brand names. Yes. Jimmy, every time we mention a brand from now on, censor it. Yes.

What did they say? P**sy. P**sy. I'm trying to get that P**sy brand deal because I'm telling you I love P**sy over Coke. I prefer P**sy over Coke. It's so good. It burned my throat the other day and it was so good. That's like the Kardashian when they blurred the McDonald's. Yeah, we're going to start blurring it for sure. Our mukbangs, no more. Was there a big one? I feel like there was a big one today. The James Charles one was, I thought, the big one. There really was nothing else, right?

Do you have anything? The confirmation of many of the things we heard about. Oh, my God. The situation. Did Moses break this to you or did you see it already when he texted it? Moses broke the news to me. We were in a group chat at like 7 p.m. Like, was he texting all of us at like 6 p.m. or something? And I was like, what is this? Yeah, I was. I watched it. Yeah, I mean, it broke by.

Be better. You know him for a while. Oh, that's what it was. Moses on stage is like, be better, send me this. And then I was about to send it to Oscar and then I realized you sent it in a group chat because we don't really group chat. It's always just like uploaded things. That's uploaded things. That's like our group chat. There's no other chat. So then I was like, what is he sending in the group? So yeah, I only had seen certain clips. Did you watch the whole thing? I watched the whole thing. Yeah. Be better interviewed.

Zach Gellers. Zach is a former friend of Evan Johnson. Evan is Kayla Malik's allegedly abusive ex-boyfriend. But Zach Gellers was, I guess, the whistleblower that first posted the TikTok calling out James Charles for having a friendship with Evan despite being friends with Kayla. Yeah.

So, Zach was the first one to post a series of TikToks with some screenshots and some receipts showing that James had – or alleging, I should say, that James had a friendship with

Alleging that James gave Evan advice on how to deal with the fallout from Kayla's allegations. And also invited... No, not even just invited. Flew out. Paid for his flight. Allegedly. Allegedly flew out Evan Johnson to come stay with him in Encino, California. And... Why'd you say it like that? Because in the video, it's crazy. Because Evan, who is supposed to...

Let me address this one in particular before we go back into it. But this was crazy and showed me so much about who Evan is because he's supposed to be like under the radar, not, you know, showing Kayla like where he's at because Kayla is friends with James. So if she sees that Evan is at James's house, she's going to be upset. Evan on Snapchat posting at James Charles's house, which is in the backyard, which is all over his TikTok. Very identifiable. Very identifiable.

being like, hey, what's good, LA? And then the next one being like, I'm going to be having to post a photo dump because I'm not going to be able to post. And then he puts the geotag for Encino to show where he's at. I'm like, how are you not? So dumb. He wants her to know. I think he just, I don't know. Everything goes back to Snapchat again, you know, because he was in the creator fund of Snapchat. So he has to post a lot.

So that's why he was like posting just backyard. He was just posting random stuff. But if you know his house, which Kayla knows, people that were there knows, they will recognize he's at James Charles' house. You don't think he did it on purpose? I would do it on purpose all the time when I'd be at someone's house. I'd always try and show like a little like backdrop thing to show where I'm at. I don't think he was trying to make her jealous. No. So it's not that situation. The gag is huge. So why this is obviously extra terrible. It's a James...

Or allegedly terrible. Whatever. James was friends with Kayla. Really good friends with Kayla. James...

had also wanted to do like a campaign for his blush, his new blush that was coming out in February, like a Valentine's Day themed photo shoot with Kayla and James. And so that was like already kind of scheduled. But then in February, Kayla broke up with Evan and she told James on the phone and allegedly explained to James the situation that was going on with Evan about

him being abusive towards her and allegedly James's reply was oh does that mean I can have him now and Kayla thought I guess thought that was a joke but then she picked up that Evan was at James's house and when she saw that stuff on Snapchat obviously

Zach and Kayla have receipts. Like, they printed out the snaps so that they knew right away that this was messed up. And Kayla even called James allegedly and was like, hey, is Evan with you? And James said no, he's not with me despite him allegedly – He's like snapping, yeah. Yeah, being there. So – So you, like, already lied basically because we saw on the Snapchat that he was obviously with James. Yeah, yeah. So – That sucks. That really sucks. It sucks because if –

don't gaslight me i like see it on snapchat yeah and to be like lying about it and stuff too it's like okay what so again that was in february so for context a uh kayla came out at the beginning of april with like her videos that really showed like all the horrible stuff that um evan allegedly did to her but the evidence is very damning like it is so graphic and so triggering and

the injuries that she sustained were insane. Um, so the evidence itself obviously is kind of irrefutable. Um,

But in February, it was kind of just like there was speculation. She had obviously talked to James about it, but she was on TikTok Live kind of alluding to what happened. So the public already kind of had a sense that he did something terrible to her. So the fact that like Kayla's viewers and followers already could pick up on that, but James was still with Evan and hanging out with him and giving him advice. Yeah.

very dubious. It kind of gets worse because in this interview with Be Better, Zach also alleges that James and Evan had a sexual and transactional relationship. Zach alleges that there are...

videos that he was shown of James and Evan having sex as well. What? And... Who was Zach in relation to them? So Zach was friends with Evan. They lived in the same town in Tennessee. Okay. So they were friends. And...

Does he know James? He does not. He only knew James. Yeah, he didn't know James or Kayla. He didn't know any of them. He was just his friend. So everything that he heard was his side for a long time. Yes. Until he heard Kayla's story. And when he realized what happened, he basically said, I'll support her in every way I can. Yeah. Oh.

He totally like flipped and was like, no. And then he ended up working with Kayla to kind of like, you know, put the pieces and the screenshots and stuff together. Yeah. So, yeah. So Zach does allege that he saw like these videos because he was friends with Evan. And at first he thought it was kind of funny. Like, oh, look what James Charles sent me. But then he ended up saying something along the lines of him to like, hey, money is money. So implying that there was some kind of transactional connection.

So he is close with Evan and does not know James. No, not personally. Obviously, he knew of James Charles. So that makes sense that the Evan guy would be saying this stuff to him because he's close friends. And there was times where allegedly that, you know, Evan would be like replying to James on like on Instagram. He said it was all through like Instagram messages, not Snap this time. Yeah.

So he was like in the room, like seeing when Evan was opening up, you know, photos or videos and it was very much like a sexual relationship. So yeah, and again, at this point, James had allegedly been made aware by Kayla of what Evan was capable of and or what Evan was doing. And

Once Zach first came out on TikTok about this, this was Coachella weekend one. So it was, you know, in April. James is like big weekend. Yes. He did. He went to Coachella and he replied or he messaged Zach after seeing the TikTok and was like, hey, I absolutely did not know about this. I was being manipulated by Evan. They show the screenshots to Jimmy. You can put it in here. I'll screenshot the screenshot. And so.

James kind of makes it seem like, you know, he was manipulated by Evan. He didn't know the extent of what was going on and that he absolutely does not stand by Evan. And he would appreciate it if Zach could take down the TikToks alleging that he had a sexual relationship with Evan and that he was happy to call on the phone and work it out or something. James loves a phone call. He loves a phone call. He's always like, we get to talk on the phone. Yes.

So it's all kind of a mess. So this...

Is kind of like where I punt it to James. Okay. So you know people are talking about this. You know you can't avoid it. You know there's comments on your TikToks. You know people are talking about it. You reach out. I previously reached out. Couldn't get a statement from him. At first I was like fine. Maybe he's going to do it on his own. So whatever. But at this point there's been nothing out. Like there's been no response. It's not going away. So and also you're DMing people.

Who are going to cover it saying this is absolutely not true. Like I don't stand by Evan. I was manipulated by Evan. If you're saying this stuff in people's DMs off the record, especially now that there's screenshots of you saying this to Zach, why are you at this point not coming on the record if that is the case? It's so simple. It's like your friend. It's DV. It's like standing up for everything that's right and just being like, I did not know about this. It's disgusting. I don't stand by it.

Yes. It's so simple. And it's like, if you can't even do something simple like that, then, like, what is happening? That seems odd. And then... It's easy to denounce someone who's, like, an actual, like, awful person. They're, like, a monster. You can denounce them, whether you're best friends or not. People did that, you know. And I get also it is going to very, very likely become, like, a legal thing with Evan. Like, Kayla makes it seem like she's really, like, wanting to push this all the way to court. I guess I get that, too. But...

there's ways you can still talk about it without jeopardizing a case. Like, obviously, that happens all the time. Like, it doesn't matter how big or small the case is. People still talk about it. Also, James' involvement wouldn't be, I wouldn't think, legally bombed out. Like, he could just say, I don't stand by this. Done. Yeah. And he could... If anything, too, he could be like, yes, a testimonial. Like, Kayla came to me and told me about this. Like, he is a witness, really, right? Yeah. Because...

She came to him and explained this to him. It doesn't look great. Yeah, it doesn't look good. It looks like you're still trying to save a friendship. When people don't speak out against someone that does something awful, it's like, I feel like you're trying to save something behind the scenes. I don't even know if it's saving the friendship with Evan at this point. I think it's saving James. I think this is just my opinion. I think...

he has learned from Dramageddon the second that you acknowledge something, it takes on a life of its own and it becomes very real. But also, this isn't something that's going to go away. Like, Kayla, she's not as big as a Tati or a Jeffree Star, I guess, but she still has a really big following. That's what that sugar bear hair we're talking about. We're talking about, like, domestic violence. Exactly. So, and the fact that you...

were giving an alleged abuser advice that you were allegedly seducing them wanting to be with them why would you want to clear that up why these are literally the first time i heard this stuff i was like there is literally no way this is real because of everything james has went through this is kind of his reputation i'm like this has to be made up because it's so insane how would he be having an affair with his ex his friends abusive exploit like when you put that in a sentence that sounds insane like how

And then seeing all this evidence, I'm like, what? Seeing James never come out. Seeing Kayla endorse everyone else who is talking about it too. Yeah. Okay. So that also is like giving me such like a epiphany. I'm like,

Why is Kayla saying like, I can't say anything, but I will say everything Zach and my sister saying is true. Why is she FaceTiming in the interview? It ends with a FaceTime of Zach and Be Better being like, thank you guys so much. I'm so excited to see you. I appreciate everything you're talking about. Yeah. She's endorsing everyone who is also speaking up about James and Evan's relationship. Yeah. So why all of a sudden? So now when it affects you, are we not going to believe the woman who was abused?

And now, and did you only care? I'm asking the question. I'm not pointing fingers or anything. Did you only care about it once Kayla came out with the YouTube videos that got like 5 million to 10 million views? Is that when you were like, oh shit.

I really cannot be seen with that man. Were you cool with it until it became viral? That is my question to you, James Charles. I would love to know. And I would love you to actually step to the plate. It is time. I get that you have a great team, a very successful team of really smart people who are probably telling you it'll go away. Whatever I'm telling you, it's not going to go away. Because as long as that girl has a platform, as long as everyone else who supports that girl has a platform, it will not go away. And I will always be looking at you funny because...

How am I going to sit here and be like, maybe James isn't as bad as I thought. Like, maybe he's coming around. Maybe growth and change. Yeah. And then the second that you can, like, swoop in and have some kind of relationship with your friend's abusive ex-boyfriend who...

ironically is your type as tall straight dark hair abs model all the same like none of this looks good none of this looks good it's time to just step up to the plate you wanted to be influencer you somehow have gotten a million chances somehow i've gotten a million chances and you know a

And I'm not saying like, I'm not trying to be a hypocrite. I'm with you who has also had a million chances. But I see someone who has had a million chances and has tried really, really hard to not let their audience down. You have had a million and one chances. Why are you letting your audience down? You ignoring it is letting your audience down. Speak up. Post a freaking notes app or something because it's getting ridiculous. Why is this 20 year old girl that you're supposed to be friends with?

endorsing everyone's story who is coming out with this. It doesn't look good. And anyone who's a fan of James who is like, well, he DMs Zach and was like, oh, I had no idea I was manipulated by Evan. Again, why is Kayla pretty much confirming that she spoke to him about it?

By endorsing everyone who's speaking out against James. It doesn't make sense. It makes literally no sense. I think you said it perfectly. I think you said all that perfectly. It pissed me off to be honest. I was like. Of course. Yeah. I mean, I feel on such a different level too because it's like I've talked to him and it's like he never don't want to ever say anything publicly and it's like

like you said don't just like message us and say like well I can't talk about this I don't want to talk about this but because that's like manipulative it's like well then say it say it like with your chest like say it if that's like the truth like why are you trying to convince us or each individual person that you DM oh I'm not a bad person you don't know the story it's like then say what it is yeah that's like the frustrating part and it's manipulative and it's awful and it's gonna be yeah it'll be like

Too late. And like you said, you've been given a lot of chances and chances like run out and then eventually people just see you as you are. And like you said, you are getting too old to be just, oh, well, he's just 18. He's just 19. Yeah. You know better. And this isn't like a drama get in where it was like, you know, people in their mid to late 30s against like a teenager. Like you are the adult. Kayla is younger than you. Why is she having to be more mature? Yeah.

than you she is 20 or 26 like how is she supposed to be the response and she's the victim so why is the 20 year old victim having to be the one that has to be like mature and the bigger person and like having to defend herself like this instead of her older influencer friend with a humongous platform it makes no sense it literally makes no sense

It's really pissing me off now because, again, I didn't believe this when I first heard it because it sounds so insane. But the more stuff that comes out, not only the more stuff that comes out, the more you remain quiet. That actually is what is the most damning to me. The more, again, you have nothing to lose because there is literally a screenshot of your DMs explaining your side of the situation that Zach and Be Better have now posted. You have literally nothing to lose. But you remaining silent says nothing.

So much, honestly. It says so much. So...

Silence speaks volumes. I have no like, I don't know. To me, I'm like, I don't really have a benefit of the doubt anymore. Like it's kind of gone in my, for me, my, my opinion. Yeah. Like you said, it's like, you can't just keep giving benefit of the doubt and be like, maybe this means it's like, okay, at this point, you know, especially like I said, Kayla being the one to, you know, why is Kayla thanking me for speaking out? If she had a problem with, if something I said was infactual, the last time we talked about it is something that Zach or be better covered was, uh, incorrect. Um,

she would be the one, you know. So like, of course, out of everyone's side, I'm not going to take James Charles side. I'm going to take Kayla side. Absolutely not. So come on now. And that's on period. So, all right. Well, we'll see. Maybe that's.

Let's hope by the time this is out, James has made a statement. I know, maybe this will be outdated. I think you're just hoping. Well, yeah, hopefully for him, but it's not. We know James. We know his pattern of behavior. I know, and I would love to be proven wrong. Like, this isn't me. Right. Like, I would love to be made a fool because that means that someone isn't terrible. You know what I mean? Yeah. And I am very open to changing my opinion based on information that is presented, you know? But right now, all the information presented is not good for James. So, like, that is why my opinion is so...

anti-James right now, but it would easily change if there was anything presented otherwise. Yeah. But there has been nothing. So... So easily fixed and yet there is no solution from James. All right. Well...

You are very informed on this subject. I like hearing about it. Well, shout out to Moses because he's the one that sends it. He's like, that's all this from Be Better. Also, shout out Be Better. Okay, doing interviews, doing soup style interviews. Very good interview too. Yeah, he was very good. Yeah, I did tell him that and he said, thank you so much. I did a lot of research and checked all of his claims with my lawyer. Everything he said is true. I even have receipts I didn't include to protect James' privacy. Wow. I don't know.

And just don't include stuff that, but he's happy to share anything. And they're really just trying to help Kayla at this point. Yeah, that's amazing. That's amazing. Especially a young girl. No one really comes to the defense of, so it's nice to see there's people online helping her. Yeah, that's why, especially Zach for coming forward too. I mean, he kind of had nothing to really gain from this, I wouldn't think. Yeah, especially he was, didn't know Kayla. It seems like he was in shock because he heard,

Evan's side of the story for the, you know how it is, you have a friend who's like, this crazy girl, this crazy girl, and she says all those things, and she does all these things, and so you buy into the story. So then when you kind of hear the flip side of it, you're like, wait a minute. You see that, and it's shocking. It's awful. All right, well, we'll hopefully have an update next Hot Topics on this, hopefully a positive one from James maybe, but let's not hold our breath. Yeah. We might pass out.

All right, you guys. Thank you for watching. I hope that this filled your appetite. We're going to... Not that part. This is the show. No, but... Filled your appetite. Wet your whistle. Wet your appetite. Wet your whistle. I do like wet your whistle. Wet your whistle. Is that sexual? I think so. Oh, Lord. Whistle while you work. Got a bowl. Oh. Okay.

Lydia Butthole Collins. Shut up. Will she? No. Oh my God. You can't say that. What? I would love. Should I DM her? Yes. I love Lydia. You think she'll be with Corey? Where's she based? She's like living with Corey. Or they've been living. Should we fly her out too? Maybe. Okay. I'll DM her today. Yeah. Oh my God. I love it. All right.

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