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How To Turn Suffering Into Purpose, Strength & Healing

2025/6/30
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Lewis Howes: 我认为验证比爱更能带来持久的连接和情感安全。如果一段关系中充满混乱和压力，即使彼此相爱，也可能缺少验证这个关键因素。渴望被伴侣理解和认可，是关于感到被看见和被验证。仅仅有爱是不够的，我们还需要其他东西，比如感到被看见能帮助调节神经系统。神经系统持续处于高度紧张状态，可能是因为没有学会如何看见自己和被他人看见。本期节目将讨论在冲突中验证他人的工具，即使你不同意他们的观点。 Caroline Fleck: 我进入心理学领域是为了治疗自己，但它也成为了我缓解他人痛苦的生存机制。减轻他人的痛苦是我的目标。我害怕化疗会让我再次陷入抑郁，只有通过利用痛苦，我才能应对它。来自痛苦的能量，要么吞噬你，要么被你用作燃料，推动你实现价值观或改善世界。如果我生活在痛苦、悲伤或抑郁中，而不采取行动利用它，我将遭受更多的痛苦。通过分享我的经历，我拯救了至少一条生命。当我与那些有强烈抑郁和自杀想法的患者分享我的经历时，这往往是治疗的转折点。我曾经也经历过他们现在的处境，我知道还有另一种出路。

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Dr. Caroline Fleck shares her transformative journey through 10 years of depression, breast cancer, and multiple sclerosis. She explains how she channeled her suffering into helping others, emphasizing the importance of using difficult experiences as fuel for positive change and service.
  • Transformation of suffering into purpose and strength
  • Overcoming 10 years of depression and breast cancer
  • The power of service in healing

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Dr. Caroline Fleck transformed 10 years of depression into her greatest superpower. I connected with Caroline about her book "Validation" and discovered how she turned decades of mental health struggles, including breast cancer and multiple sclerosis, into profound tools for healing others. Her story reveals why traditional therapy failed her but electric shock therapy provided the breakthrough she needed. The most powerful moment came when she shared how her darkest experiences became the key to validating suicidal patients in ways no one else could. This conversation will transform how you view suffering and teach you why validation, not just love, creates real connection in relationships.

Buy Dr. Fleck’s book Validation: How the Skill Set That Revolutionized Psychology Will Transform Your Relationships, Increase Your Influence, and Change Your Life)

In this episode you will learn:

  • How to transform your deepest suffering into your greatest superpower for helping others
  • How electric shock therapy saved Dr. Fleck when traditional methods failed
  • The difference between validation and love in relationships and why both are essential
  • Why validation is the universal antidote to the world's greatest pain - invalidation
  • How to support someone who is suffering without enabling destructive behaviors

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