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You Want Me to Watch the Kids While You Go Out With Other Men?, Where Are They Now

2022/5/19
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Where Should We Begin? with Esther Perel

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丈夫
妻子
治疗师
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丈夫:妻子与其他人约会让他感觉自己像商品一样被使用,并质疑自己作为丈夫的价值和身份。他担心妻子会忽略家庭责任,并对妻子与其他人的亲密关系感到嫉妒和不安全。他将‘快乐’视为逃避生活压力和单调乏味的方式,以及应对内心的悲伤和黑暗面的方式,但这种‘快乐’往往是短暂和难以持续的。他将‘快乐’与公平联系起来,这反映出他对生活不公平的感受,以及童年时期缺乏安全感和归属感。他作为黑人男性在美国的经历,让他在表达愤怒和寻求帮助方面面临着额外的挑战。 妻子:她最初提出探索其他关系,是因为感觉自己的快乐被限制住了,并希望重新掌控自己的性欲。她承担了让丈夫快乐的责任,这让她感到负担很重,并感到自己无法满足丈夫的需求。她鼓励丈夫诚实面对自己的需求,并追求自己的快乐,但她自己也需要在承担责任方面更加稳定,才能有更多精力与丈夫一起玩乐。她意识到,他们之间的关系已经从主要伴侣转变为共同养育子女的平等伙伴。 治疗师:治疗师引导夫妻双方深入探讨开放式婚姻背后的深层问题,包括性、两性关系、多元爱情、沟通、信任、嫉妒、责任、压力以及种族创伤等。治疗师指出,丈夫所谓的‘快乐’实际上是应对内心的悲伤和黑暗面的方式,以及一种应对愤怒和种族创伤的策略。治疗师帮助丈夫和妻子理解彼此的需求和感受,并鼓励他们寻找安全的方式表达愤怒和处理内心的创伤。治疗师建议丈夫寻求黑人男性治疗师的帮助,以获得更有效的支持和引导。

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The couple discusses the origins of their decision to explore non-monogamy, with the wife feeling a cap on her happiness and the husband grappling with feelings of inadequacy and societal pressures.

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When Esther first met with them two years ago, they’d recently opened up the marriage. At the time only she had ventured out, and after a lifetime of feeling her sexuality wasn’t her own, she felt an awakening. But at what expense? Her newfound freedom seemed to result in his misery. This time around, they are both exploring elsewhere, but the subject of their non-monogamy takes a backseat to other foundational stories within their marriage.

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