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Crystal: 本期节目讨论了Brooke Urich的新书《Wink, Wink, Nudge, Nudge》,该书揭露了Seeking Arrangement网站的性交易问题,并将其与Matt Gaetz丑闻联系起来。Crystal强调了该网站的欺骗性和对未成年人的潜在危害。 Brooke Urich: Brooke Urich分享了她作为Seeking Arrangement网站发言人以及后来批评者的经历。她详细描述了该网站的运作机制,如何通过模糊的措辞和营销策略来掩盖其性交易的本质。她还谈到了网站上存在的未成年人问题以及性交易受害者的困境。她认为,许多看似自愿参与的女性实际上受到了胁迫和操纵。她还批评了主流媒体对该网站的正面报道,认为这些报道误导了公众,并为网站的继续运作提供了掩护。她还谈到了自己对女权主义和避孕药的看法,认为避孕药的使用使得女性更容易受到性剥削。 Ryan: Ryan和Emily引导Brooke Urich讲述了她与Seeking Arrangement网站的经历,以及她对网站运作机制和社会影响的看法。他们还讨论了FOSTA-SESTA法案以及第230条对网站的影响。他们还探讨了该网站如何被用来进行政治和商业上的操纵。 Emily: Emily与Ryan一起引导讨论,并对Brooke Urich的经历和观点表示赞赏。 Brooke Urich: 我不了解Matt Gaetz和未成年人之间的具体情况,但我的一些个人经历让我相信某些事情。我曾联系非营利组织National Center on Sexual Exploitation,并与代表未成年人的律师取得联系,向他提供了Seeking Arrangement网站运作机制的信息。一位ABC的记者告诉我,指控被撤销是因为该女孩认为关系是双方自愿的,并且她私下与Gaetz和Seeking Arrangement达成庭外和解。我相信该女孩确实未成年,并且知道该网站上有许多未成年用户。我推测Greenberg是皮条客,利用该网站寻找女孩,然后让她们为其他人提供有偿性服务。性交易的受害者往往是自愿参与者,直到多年后才意识到自己受到了胁迫和操纵。许多有权势的男性并非该网站的用户,而是与像Joel Greenberg这样的人有联系,后者为他们物色年轻女孩。这些有权势的男性可能并不知道他们的朋友利用该网站为他们物色未成年女孩。Seeking Arrangement网站声称不是卖淫场所,但实际上是买卖性服务的场所。该网站将性交易重新定义为不同的东西,掩盖了其本质。我在22岁时开始为该公司工作,起初并不完全理解网站的运作模式。该网站上的男性不仅是为了付钱买性,还有很多骗子。该网站的模糊性导致受害者感到羞愧,不愿站出来。Seeking Arrangement网站通过营销吸引用户,并随着时间的推移改变了网站的外观,以掩盖其本质。用户自愿加入该网站,这使得网站在很大程度上免于承担责任。第230条规定使得网站对第三方用户发布的内容不承担刑事责任。Backpage网站因性交易指控被关闭,这导致了FOSTA-SESTA法案的通过。FOSTA-SESTA法案修改了第230条,规定协助性交易的网站不再受其保护。Backpage网站比Seeking Arrangement网站更直接,并提供用户评价。Seeking Arrangement网站比Backpage网站更隐晦,不直接说明价格和服务内容。Backpage网站被关闭后,许多性工作者转而使用Seeking Arrangement网站。Seeking Arrangement网站通过暗示性的警告来规避责任。Seeking Arrangement网站将责任推卸给用户,而自己不承担任何责任。

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Why did Brooke Urick join Seeking Arrangement?

Brooke joined the site at 21 after a friend told her about it, initially thinking it was a dating website where she could find a rich boyfriend.

How did Brooke Urick become disillusioned with Seeking Arrangement?

Brooke's disillusionment came as she realized the site was primarily used for buying and paying for sex, contrary to its marketing as a dating platform.

What role did Seeking Arrangement play in the Matt Gaetz scandal?

The scandal involving Matt Gaetz appears to have begun with the website Seeking Arrangement, where one of the underage individuals involved met Joel Greenberg through the site.

How does Seeking Arrangement avoid legal liability for user interactions?

Seeking Arrangement uses Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, which protects websites from being held liable for content posted by third-party users.

What is FOSTA-SESTA and how does it relate to Seeking Arrangement?

FOSTA-SESTA is an amendment to Section 230 that holds websites accountable for facilitating, assisting, and supporting sex work or sex trafficking. It was a response to the shutdown of Backpage.

What are the common misconceptions about sex trafficking according to Brooke Urick?

Brooke explains that many people think sex trafficking only involves children and immigrants, but often, victims are willing participants who later realize they were coerced.

How does Seeking Arrangement market itself differently from explicit sex work sites like Backpage?

Seeking Arrangement markets itself as a dating website, avoiding explicit language about paying for sex, which makes it seem more acceptable and less like prostitution.

What is the 'Prince Charming' myth and how does it relate to Seeking Arrangement?

The 'Prince Charming' myth is the idea that someone, often a wealthy older man, will save a young woman from her circumstances. This myth is used to lure women into joining the site.

What are the potential dangers of social media according to Brooke Urick?

Brooke warns that social media perpetuates unrealistic and often false representations of reality, which can mislead young, vulnerable people into dangerous situations like those on Seeking Arrangement.

How does Brooke Urick view the term 'sex work'?

Brooke uses the term 'sex work' because it encompasses all sexual services for money, including porn and OnlyFans, but she warns that it can be a damaging and exploitative industry.

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Ryan and Emily discuss Brook Urick's book on the website Seeking Arrangement.

 

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