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and John Ratcliffe in front of Congress there getting pressed about it. We're going to talk about the Democrats. They were able to flip a Trump district in the Pennsylvania Senate seat. Super interesting. It's a state Senate, obviously, but does give us some indication. This was what, Trump plus 15, Trump plus 16 district Democrat there was very narrowly able to win. Could be a sign of what's to come in the midterms. We're going to talk about some interesting developments in Gaza. There's been some protests online.

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Let's go ahead and get to the signal text, shall we? So after the Trump administration spent a better part of a day saying there was no classified information there at all, nothing, don't worry about it, everything was totally above board, Jeffrey Goldberg over at The Atlantic, against his better nature, Ryan, because he was trying to protect all of us from all this classified information, he just said, you know what, screw it. I'm going to release all of them.

And you know what? He should have done that from the very beginning. But okay, here we are. And now we can all see it for ourselves and judge. That's called journalism, isn't it? Isn't it? So, okay, let's go ahead and put them all up there on the screen. Let's start with the first one. Now, what do you notice in that very first text message, Ryan? What's the very first thing that it says? M-A-R-S.

Michael Waltz added you to the group. Yeah, there you go. The second thing is what? Disappearing message time set to one week. Okay, my message group with my buddies, it's got a one-day disappearing time. Right. So why is it?

It's after one week, that's crazy. Why do they have a better, why do we have better OPSEC, quote unquote, than this? It's totally ridiculous. Now let's continue, shall we? We had cut out and we're only including here some of the new text messages for people to see. But what's fascinating to me is

the internal debate here. Joe Kent, some of you guys might know Joe Kent. He was, ran for Congress twice in the state of Washington. Very, very realist guy. And here he is as one of Tulsi Gabbard's deputies actually arguing in the chat saying there's nothing time sensitive that is driving this timeline for the strike against the Houthis. We will have the exact same options in a month. Quote,

the Israelis will likely take strikes and therefore ask us for more support to replenish whatever they use against the Houthis. But that's a minor factor. I will send you the unclassed data on pulled on shipping. He's talking there specifically about the amount of shipping there. John Ratcliffe, the CIA director says, we are mobilizing assets to support now, but a delay would not negatively impact

us. And additional time would be used to identify better starting points for coverage on Houthi leadership. By the way, can we pause on this real quickly? Because there are a group of people in this country who still care about the Constitution and the War Powers Act and have insisted that this was an illegal strike and that you need congressional authorization for it. This proves that it was the case because the only way you can get around Congress is

is if you say this was an emergency. - That's right. - 'Cause obviously, Commander in Chief in an emergency situation doesn't have to let American service members die just because of paperwork. They are admitting in writing that there is no rush. They're literally saying no rush. We can do this later. If you can do it later,

Therefore, constitutionally speaking, you're required to get congressional authorization for that. Unless it's the 2001 authorization of military force. Which I don't even think they tried to use that. Because that's against al-Qaeda and the Houthis fight al-Qaeda. Yeah, but Ryan, they've been updating that thing for a long time, right? It never matters. Also, it's quaint. The Constitution, as we will talk about later in this show...

Yeah, who even cares about that anymore? But let's continue here with the text messages, shall we? Because this, again, we're revealing here a lot, both about how this entire thing was not only not time sensitive, it didn't work because it didn't actually accomplish its goal of stopping this.

I also think, just had to put this in here, about Mr. Waltz, Mike Waltz here. You can see him here arguing with J.D. Vance, who is saying, hey, why are we doing this? Only 3%. He's like, well, actually, the trade figures, we are 15% of global and 30% of container. It's difficult to break that down to U.S., specific because of the container going through the Red Sea or not. Whether we pull the plug or not today, European navies do not have the capabilities to defend the types of sophisticated anti-ship cruise missiles anymore.

And drones, the Houthis, are now using. Let's pause on that, shall we? So these European nations, let's say Germany, the UK, France, we're talking about, you know, what, three of the top G7 economies in the world. Actually, all of them have much more powerful navies than almost any other country in the world, except for like the U.S.,

in China. And so if our national security advisor is saying they don't even have the capability to deal with a group that has been bombed into smithereens for the last 10 years and is using like secondhand Iranian missiles that they've gotten, you know, by a transfer, that

That's a bit of a problem, shall we? Can we all just sit there and ruminate on that a little bit? Luckily for Europe and the UK and France and the rest of them, Waltz is either a liar or a moron. Yeah, right. Because everything you read there is a lie. Yes. Like they do have the capacity to shoot missiles at the Houthis. Or, it's like, or Mike Waltz is saying that we need to do it. Now, the only reason that we would need to do it. He's lying so that we can be the ones to do it. That's right. And why would we be the ones to do it?

either A, to feel big and tough and to stick it to Iran because that definitely worked under Biden, or it's to defend Israel. And as they admit also in the chat, the fall apart of the ceasefire has direct impacts here, as Joe Kent himself admitted. Now let's continue here with the text messages and let's see what else that we can, shall we? So this is the actual update from Pete Hegsath. And I would say this is the one where you basically got him

dead to rights. And let's keep this up here because this, by the way, America, this is what your government is telling you is not classified. This is before the strike. Team update, time now, 1144 Eastern Standard Time. Weather is favorable, just confirmed. We are a go. 1215, F-18s launch.

This is when the first bombs will definitely drop.

pending earlier trigger-based targets, 1536 F-18 second strike targets, also first sea-based Tomahawks launch. So the Trump administration's argument is that because he said that the target terrorist is at his location, that there was no classified information that was included there. Can we all just stop, you know, for a second? Like this level of retardation is honestly just too much for me.

Like, you're really going to argue that the known, like, use of the munitions and the exact time of an attack was not classified at the time that you sent it? Fine. Then tweet it out. If you believe that, if you believe that, then allow any American service member privy to that information to post it ahead of the attack. Okay?

Go ahead now as you and I know Ryan the stupidest shit in the world is classified by the United States government We have a massive over classification problem as you all saw with the JFK files So there is genuinely no universe on planet Earth where this was not classified at the it was no like not classified at the time that they sent it and then second is

What you also can just see here in the sheer stupidity of the way that they are acting. I know I'm calling for this early. Put A2 up there on the screen because this was the, you know, quote, unquote, the smoking gun as to whether it was classified. Look here at what our idiot national security advisor's justification is. No locations, no sources and methods, no war plans.

Foreign partners had already been notified. Bottom line, President Trump is protecting America and our interests. So their response is that actually Pete Hegstead shared attack plans and not war plans. Thus, there was no class-wide information here whatsoever. It is an insult to all good people's intelligence to argue this. It's just preposterous. We never got congressional authorization for war. Therefore, it's not a war. Yeah, there you go. Therefore, there can't be war plans. What are we doing?

doing here? I just, I really cannot stomach this level of stupidity. I cannot. Now let's continue with the text messages and let's go because there's also more that we reveal here also in terms of the way that we conduct war and what exactly is a good plan. Here's my current, my favorite from Pete Hexeth. More to follow. We are currently clean on OPSEC, meaning that there have been no leaks.

Godspeed to our worries. We are clean, clean as a whistle. All right, let's continue. And this also shows us, you know, again, how dumb a lot of the people who are in power actually are, namely Mr. Waltz, who added Jeffrey Goldberg. VP, building collapsed, had multiple positive ID. JD goes, what?

He goes, typing too fast. The first target, their top missile guy, we had positive ID of him walking into his girlfriend's building and now it's collapsed. Excellent and a good start there from John Ratcliffe. So presumptive there, it's like, oh, so did we kill the girlfriend? Right? So what's up with that? And everyone else in the freaking apartment building? Yeah.

Yeah, right. What is J.D. Vance, by the way, doing dropping excellent on a war crime here? And who's the thumbs up on the war crime? Like that's a war crime. It's just one of those where you rarely get to see the internal way that we even acknowledge this type of stuff. You're never supposed to put this in writing, right? Whenever you just kill innocent standby or whatever. And also, I can't tell you guys how many times I've been in the Pentagon briefing room.

And we would ask things like, so what steps did you take to, they're like, we take every possible step to minimize civilian casualties. We did this and this and this and this and this. And here you have the National Security Department, yeah, he walked into his girlfriend's building and we just collapsed it. We're like, uh, what? Hold on a second. What happened? The guy they're saying they killed was a senior official who works in the missile department. Right. They have other engineers. Yes. Like, okay, like.

This is not Osama bin Laden. This is a guy who is like somebody's boss in a missile program. When they kill him and his girlfriend and everyone else in the apartment, they will hire. They'll put out a little rec. Hey, we got a job opening now for a guy who can run a missile program. And Ryan, you covered drone strikes for years. So can you just tell us like not only the pattern that this strikes with the war machine going all the way back.

to the Obama administration, but just for you to be able to nakedly see this, I mean, what is it? Because as you and I have done, we have heard these claims from the CIA and from the Pentagon for almost more than a decade now. They're like, listen, you have no idea the amount of steps that we take. And here's, there's not even a pretense of rules of engagement or any of that. They're like, yeah, we just killed him. Got it. Right, because they think nobody's watching. Mm-hmm.

It shows how normalized it is to not care about civilian casualties. Nobody on that thread knows anything about the number of civilians in that apartment building. Nobody said, wait a minute, are we sure that this apartment building in the middle of the night was not filled with sleeping people who had nothing to do with this? I'm assuming you checked. You guys checked this, right?

And also all the references to God and praying while you're

actively killing innocent people? Well, they're saying, oh, God bless our troops and all that. Maybe one thing if I'm actually on the ground. I pray for victory. What do you mean we pray for victory? Victory in what? This is not a battle. That's the problem. You're shooting tomahawks off of a ship. Right. We're using bombs, dropping them from very sophisticated airplanes and from guided missile destroyers and acting like we're invading Normandy on D-Day.

And also victory. Guess what? The Red Sea blockade is still going on. The Red Sea blockade is still going on. There actually was just strikes again yesterday. Not that anybody's noticing and or doing anything in terms of the effect. Biden bombed Yemen for over a year. As you said, he even admitted, yes, the strikes will continue. Will it work? No. OK. So what are we doing here? Again.

And there's so much to say here, both about the stupidity of just feel-good operations like this, which do nothing, killed some hoothy guy. Great, strikes are continuing. Yeah, maybe. Maybe, right. Not that they even released him. Also, here's some classified information, by the way. We have positive ID that he's in the apartment building. Right. Okay, there's a chance that there's some drone that has some imagery. Yeah, he said MQ-9 Reaper drone. There were MQ-9 Reaper drones.

It's not obvious, though, that the MQ-9 Reaper drone was a source of the positive ID that he's in the apartment. Did they have a human intel on the block that said, hey, he's in there? Does that mean they have a mole? Or is it a civilian who's on the block who they're working with? Now Iran is going to sweep up all the comms from that block and try to snuff out

If there was a mole, a human source. So did Hexeth give up a human source? Or Waltz give up a source? And maybe it was a drone. I don't know. But that's why to say that this stuff is unclassified and you can just post it on Twitter is absurd. Let's call their bluff. Fine. Do it before every attack. Just post it. Fine. I'm fine with that. Actually, it would be useful because we're like, okay, here's what we're going to use. Here's exactly what we're going to use.

Here are the targets. And then you and I can say, so did it work? Did it hit the target? I would actually like to know that. It'd be nice, wouldn't it? All right, let's try that. So I already showed you guys Mike Waltz's dumb justification, but oh man, the White House line on this, I just, again, it insults the intelligence of the viewer and of the entire country. Let's take a listen.

What is it about what Pete Hegseth wrote that makes you say this is not classified? Well, it's not just me saying that, Peter. It's the Secretary of Defense himself who is saying this as well. And he put out a very strong statement earlier today listing all of the things that were not included in that message that he sent to the group. And again, this message, there was no classified information transmitted. There were no war plans discussed. Why did the Atlantic downgrade their allegation about war plans to attack

plans, they're now playing word games because they know this was sensationalist spin from a reporter who is well known for doing this. We have said all along no war plans were discussed, no classified material was sent. You have the Secretary of Defense saying that. You have the Director of the CIA, the Director of National Intelligence, the FBI Director all testifying to that under oath, and they should be trusted with that. Nobody's texting war plans. I noticed this morning out came something that

Doesn't look like war plans. And as a matter of fact, they even changed the title to attack plans because they know it's not war plans. Attack plans, not war plans. They are insulting all of our intelligence as if this is an excuse. You know what a better excuse would be or a better response? Yeah, our national security advisor, he's an idiot. And he added this person and we're never supposed to be there. And he's being fired yesterday. So we've dealt with the problem. We're moving on.

Instead, they're attacking Jeffrey Goldberg and the Atlantic as if it's his fault that he, what did Walt say? - He got sucked in. - Sucked in. - His contact was sucked in. - As much as I despise drug dealers, I ask you all the next time you do drug dealers out there,

get caught, to tell the police, oh, that number got sucked in. Yeah, I don't know. You ever been in a situation where you have a contact and somebody else's number? Try telling that to the police. Use that as a defense in a court of law. I ask you to do that for my own edification and amusement to see how it will work out. Every guy in the country who's been caught texting another woman. Babe, his phone or her number got sucked into my phone.

No guy would even bother to try that. No one is even dumb enough to try that. You've got to have someone that's like, oh, my friend sent it to me or whatever. It was initials. I didn't know what it was. Trying to text Jeffrey Goldberg. Fellas, try that one next time.

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It's just too much. The best what we've seen yet, the best actual response here has been from Secretary Rubio. He's like, look, someone made a big mistake. Yeah. Yeah, he's like, that's it. That's all we can say. Let's take a listen. A4. First question, let me just say on the signal thing. This thing was set up

for purposes of coordinating how everyone was going to call. You know, when these things happen, I need to call foreign ministers, especially of our close allies. We need to notify members of Congress. Other members of the team have different people they need to notify as well. And that was the purpose of why it was set up. Obviously, someone made a mistake. Someone...

made a big mistake and added a journalist. Nothing against journalists, but you ain't supposed to be on that thing. So they got on there and this happened. I've been, you know, I can speak to myself and my presence on it. I think my role on it was just speaking for my role. I contributed to it twice. I identified my point of contact, which is my chief of staff. And then later on, I think three hours after the White House's official announcement,

announcements have been made, I congratulate the members of the team. I've been assured by the Pentagon and everyone involved that none of the information that was on there, though not intended to be divulged, obviously that was a mistake and that shouldn't have happened and the White House is looking at it, but that none of the information on there at any point threatened the operation of the lives of our servicemen. Somebody made a mistake, just say it. That's how you handle it. You know why you can't say it? Because then you have to fire the idiot who made a mistake.

That's why I'm like, you know, watching Hegseth have to contort himself into a knot. This is, it's not even his fault. This is Trump. Trump is standing by and just allowing this idiot to stay in his job. I also want to say this. I think Trump is losing his edge. In the old days, anyone who was

who flailed like that on television, you're gone. Right, that's right. First term. That's the crime that Walt committed was being embarrassing on TV. Did you not see that TV interview? It was humiliating. You know, anybody, you don't even need like a 60 IQ to watch that and be like, yeah, this guy is obviously lying. And Trump is not only allowing this, he's beclowning himself.

by allowing this idiot to keep working for him who's like, oh, it got sucked into my phone. And now the White House said yesterday that Elon Musk's technical experts are, what technical experts do you need? Big Paul's just on the case. Yeah, but we need a forensic chain?

to look at how this happened? The guy had the phone number in his phone and then he added the wrong number. It's not hard. It's done. Case closed. We need an efficient review of this, not big balls spending weeks with a committee. I just can't get, for me, Ryan, I'm watching these National Park Rangers get fired and all these other folks get fired. Maybe some need to go, maybe some don't, whatever. But this guy gets a second chance, forgiveness.

14 years of impeccable performance reviews. Right. And you're fired because Big Balls didn't understand what your job was. And it's had something in the word diversity. Yeah. Was in it. And so. But Mike Walsh gets to keep his job. This guy is fine. Again, it insults the intelligence of all good people. Next part. Let's go to this one because this is great.

So as you'll all recall, Mike Waltz said, I have never met and never communicated with Jeffrey Goldberg before. Here's a photo of

of him and Jeffrey Goldberg. All right? They're standing right next to each other. And tell the world where they are because that's even worse. Yeah, it's actually even better. They're at the French embassy where they are attending, what was it, some French documentary? A Q&A with a French filmmaker. Yeah, that's right. Some Q&A for a French filmmaker. He should be in Guantanamo. I'll tell you, it is a nice embassy if we're all being honest. It's a beautiful place. It's incredible, yeah. You know, that is the heart of Swamp Washington. The...

It's just, it's too much. Again, where the guy says, I've never met and never communicated. Except at the French embassy. Except at the French embassy. And here's a photo of me standing right next to him. What, you think they didn't have a little conversation right before that? Maybe that's when his number got sucked into his phone. Right? Yeah.

It's just, again, you know, I can say it over and over. And then finally, A6, let's put it up here. Mike Walsh, apparently, for some reason, his Venmo list is public. I was talking to the team this morning. I was like, bro, am I the only guy who has his private Venmo list since I was like 20 years old? What are we doing here? Is Michael Walsh still walking around with this phone that is known to just suck up random numbers? Yeah, that's right. This is a dangerous phone. Yeah, would you want to get rid of this phone?

This is a very, yeah, this is a bad phone. This phone should be studied. So let's presume here that the CNN journalist and the MSNBC producer and all these other journalists which were publicly available on Mike Waltz's Venmo also got sucked into his phone. In terms of how this all shakes out,

At this point, Trump has now allowed the humiliation of this new cycle to continue. He has given congressional Democrats the greatest blessing to drag out some dumb, you know, long hearing process. Because now, if they don't firewall it so they can

Try and compel him to, of course, it's not gonna happen. He refused executive privilege. The Secretary of Defense has to testify legally before Congress, I think, what is it, four or five times a year or something like that. And so they're obviously gonna press him. If the Democrats do take the midterms, what's the easiest, you know, Lewinsky-style hearing type of thing to initiate? Classified hearings, referring things to the, you just bought yourself two years of scandal for no reason. And, you know, people might think this is dumb, but I mentioned this in the intro.

Axios did some data analysis. This is the most viral story of the Trump administration. This is everywhere. Andy Cohen joked about it on Watch What Happens Live last night. There you go. So Bravo was joking about it. That's what I mean. But okay, even take that out of it. Go on TikTok or Instagram or any of these. Everyone is making jokes about the group chat. Like this has entered the zeitgeist. Andy Cohen joked about it just talking about Signal as in everyone understands this. Like didn't need any context. Bingo.

It's just everyone understands this scandal. The whole country. If you're even like tangentially experiencing pop culture or the news or TV, this show, YouTube, whatever, you've heard about this. This is a real thing. Because everyone's made that mistake. They have. But nobody has defended it. And nobody has defended it as stupidly as Mike Walsh. And so I just keep coming back to this. You have a guy –

who literally committed the greatest Washington sin that you can make. Number one is jeopardize classified information. Then the second greatest Washington staffer sin is you become the story. You embarrass your boss. And now his boss, who is firing tens of thousands of people based on efficiency claims and others and excellence in government and we're getting rid of DEI, is keeping this idiot around. It's just shocking. And the problem that Democrats seem to have here is that

They seem hell-bent on trying to use this to get rid of Pete Hegseth. I noticed that. I was going to ask you about that because I don't get it. They got him dead to rights. He's an idiot. It's done. Closed case. Hegseth, I mean...

Look, should the guy have been sharing the info? Waltz is a pro-war Washington creature. I was going to say, I think that makes him more... And Democrats are more comfortable with pro-war Washington creatures who have the support of AIPAC and the pro-Ukraine war types. Democrats are just more comfortable with that kind of guy than with Hegseth.

who is more skeptical of, I mean, his signal chats notwithstanding. Like, he's not exactly a dove. He's not a dove. He's not...

He's got a bad neocon pass, but he's more MAGA. Let's put it that way. Whereas Waltz, like you said, I mean, this guy was arguing for war with Russia like yesterday before he worked for Trump. He's like actively trying to undermine. Right. He's like, you can see it in the group chat. This guy's like, no, actually, we need to bomb Yemen. Here's why. Because of some chat GPT analysis. 30% of the containers are, who knows where those goods are going? And in Europe, you know, they may manufacture some of it and then other...

The component parts wind up in here. So really we should go to war with the entire world. - That's right. It's like, okay, got it. Again, it's just the stupidest possible move. And watching the White House and even JD was attacking Goldberg. - But Democrats could get waltzed if they would just go for it. - I'm like, what are we doing? - Democrats just do it. - We're attacking Jeffrey Goldberg. I tweeted something to that rant. You know what? - Making us defend Jeffrey Goldberg. - Right, I hate Jeffrey Goldberg. I hate the man so much.

And I said this, I go, a journo exaggerating his headline, now a bigger problem than being the national security advisor of the USA, actually adding said journo to the chat and lying about it. As I said, you need a sub 60 IQ to go along with this. And the better headline was, you know,

war planners exposed war crime in real time. - There you go. That's a good headline. You know what else is a good headline? - And he kept that out. - Right. - That they knocked that apart and built it down. - You know, the other thing I can't really understand here about Goldberg is he's clearly protecting Walsh to some degree because, yes, he burned him. - Because they were buddies before, obviously. - But at the same time, if someone was like, if I leaked something, let's say, and someone was like, "Oh, I've never met Saga before," I'd be like, "Okay, well, here's a photo of the two of us together. And actually, here's whenever you added me

and here's all of our past communications. Just so you all know, you know, in terms of... My original tip that they are in contact and that they had been in contact previously, but he burned him because he kind of had to. You know,

Because at this point, you've added in, it's a huge story. You have to burn the guy. Exactly. Everything Goldberg has done since then affirms that original tip and that original idea because he has done everything he can. Yes, he burned Waltz, but he's done everything he can to kind of divert attention to Hegsa.

And to not burn Walt further. You're exactly right. He feels guilty about what he did to Walt. Why is it up to us internet sleuths to go and find a photo of Goldberg? If the guy says, I've never met you before, I'd be like, that's just literally not true. I met you this time, this time, this time. He even said, I met him before in the article. And so for Walt to come out and say he didn't, it's just aggressively stupid. He's such a liar. Yeah, it's just like the public record. And really what they are betting on

and this might be a good bet, is that MAGA and Trump are so stupid that they will allow their intelligence to be insulted to own the Libs and the Atlantic. The only people you're owning are yourselves.

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Dave Portnoy over at Barstool News, or no, Barstool Sports, not Barstool News. Call it Barstool News. I guess we could call it Barstool Sports. Barstool Sports, Dave Portnoy put out a video and he was like, you know, guys, Mike Walz has got to go. Let's take a listen. I've seen a lot of people be like, oh, you're mad about this, but we had a president like Biden with dementia who had the nuclear codes. Yeah, that's exactly it. That's exactly it. That wasn't right then. And this isn't right now.

In this new administration, you want to take accountability. Trump, you may love Michael Waltz. You love Pete Heskett. You may love these guys. Somebody has to go down. To me, it's Michael Waltz. He's the one who added him to this conversation. But you can't have the top of the top security people in the United States with the most sensitive information in the world adding random editors of a magazine that hates Trump's guts online.

to a group chat talking about an attack before it happens on a terrorist group. You can't poo-poo it. You can't downplay it. You have to sit up there and be like, holy shit, this is a fuck-up of epic proportions. There will be accountability. I will get to the bottom of this. And frankly, I think I don't like calling for people's heads.

Michael Waltz, it seems like you're the guy who added him to the group chat. You have to lose your job. Yeah.

Basic. Yes. Basic stuff. It literally says, Michael Walsh added you to the group chat. There's no sucking in. It's over. He's closed. You added him. Now the current spin from MAGA is, oh, one of his deputies added him. Guess what? They literally said, no, the deputy didn't add him. I added him. Okay. So, I mean, the only way maybe that you could get around it is my deputy sent me the guy's contact.

And that's how the number got sucked into my head. Not even trying that. But even if you did that, then fire the deputy. Why are we standing by this? Do you know who his deputy is? Because I do. Alex Wong. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Alex Wong's been around this town for a long time. All right? Alex Wong worked for Tom Cotton.

Laura Loomer's coming after Alex Wong now. As she should. Yeah, great. Thank you, Laura, for your service. Alex Wong worked for Tom Cotton's unreconstructed neocon. 100% probably been leaking to Jeffrey Goldberg since the day he came to Washington. This guy's a complete, like, just blob individual. You know, not a surprise that Michael Walls hired him. Those of us who track insider personnel have been tracking this guy for a long time. But that's another thing, you know, for Walls. Why are you protecting this guy, then, if it's not his fault? My only, then I can only surmise, it's not his fault. It's your fault.

Yeah, it's like there's the only way that this all went down. And yeah, Trump, for some reason, again, wants this to be the number one story that is surrounding him. I mean, I thought he was on better ground. Let's just look again. We can debate merits and all that stuff all day long. Even if you disagree on the deportations thing, and Glenn mostly convinced me that there were serious screw ups there. That's a better, that is a much better story.

for Donald Trump. - Yeah. - Immigration is his number one issue right now. Number one. Every single other issue is mostly underwater according to a lot of these tracking polls on issues. Now, sure, caveats and all that stuff, et cetera, but that's where I wanna be fighting. My incompetence on a group chat joke, that's not

And underneath that is that you're bombing Yemen because you failed to end the war in Israel, which has the White House having to respond to Portnoy. Whenever Portnoy is being used against Caroline Leavitt in the press room, you're losing. So let's roll that real quick because it was just kind of funny. That's right. Can you just clarify who is investigating, who's leading that, and also Dave Portnoy,

who endorsed President Trump said today that he thinks that Mike Walz should leave. Could you respond to that? Sure. Great respect for Dave Portnoy, but I just answered that previous question from Jennifer. As for your original question about

who's leading looking into the messaging thread, the National Security Council, the White House Counsel's Office, and also, yes, Elon Musk's team. Elon Musk has offered to put his technical experts on this to figure out how this number was inadvertently added to the chat. Again, to take responsibility and ensure this can never happen again. Got all the greatest minds trying to figure this out. Don't worry, Portnoy, we're going to get rid of it. We're technical experts. Ryan, it's too much, man.

Tulsi, who handled herself okay, some lying two days ago, was brought back to the Hill. Let's roll some Tulsi from yesterday. They're just still taking these lumps. Every time you testify for Congress, you're going to be forced to sit there and eat L after L after. There's no defending it. And watch. Let's take a listen. The time Mr. Witkoff was actually in Russia during this chat discussion, was he not? I was not aware of that conversation.

Was he on his personal phone at the time? I don't know. Well, it's my understanding that he was indeed in Russia. Director Gabbard, you were also traveling during this discussion, correct? Yes. And where were you? I was traveling through the Asia-Pacific region. I don't recall which country I was in at that time. You don't remember the country? I'd have to go back and look at the schedule.

We do, by the way, have news according to Witkow. Yeah, he didn't bring his personal phone. He did not bring his phone. So, okay, good. Yeah. No, but actually there's two things there going on there. He goes, you guys, you idiots, you said that this was on my personal phone. I don't even have my personal phone in Russia. And you're like, okay, but you did just confirm that this was on your personal phone, man.

You just admitted that this is your personal phone. You're not supposed to do that in terms of official government records. They can penetrate your phone while it's sitting on your bedside table. And not to be annoying, Ryan, because I do understand where people are going to take this the wrong way and be like, oh, are you asking for more inefficiency? I'd be fine if they used Signal, but you do need to preserve these records. The reason why you preserve it is because there might be, let's say, a plot to assassinate the president of the United States. That's never happened before.

for. And then maybe a guy named Jefferson Morley, 60 years from now, needs to get to the bottom of said stuff and literally doesn't have access. Some of my favorite books are the reconstructions of

very like difficult policy periods. So for example, the decision to oil embargo Japan. It is so useful to go back and to read the internal discussion. Cordell Hull said this, you know, in a memorial and you could see the cables.

You had our ambassador being like, don't do it. This is going to lead to this. Roosevelt, the Minimates in the Oval Office. You can literally watch it all happen in slow motion. Same thing. Another one of my favorite books is called – it's like the – no, it's The Best and the Brightest, David Halberstam, and specifically a reconstruction of the U.S. decision to escalate into Vietnam. Same thing. Reading the cables, McGeorge Bundy, Robert McNamara. This stuff matters. Like, you know, I –

I understand why the people in charge may not want it to be preserved. But for historical purposes, this is actually important. Someday, some naval historian out there is going to write about the ability of the Houthis, a non-state actor with limited technology, to fully blockade the entire Red Sea for the global empire. That's a remarkable event, no? Right. Yeah, and they're going to have to rely on, like, Fox News clips. Right, they're going to have to rely on tweets and news clips and not be able to look back on it.

And what I'm just saying is not just a norm, it's actually the law. Like you're supposed to have a record of preservation. And for this reason, to be able to go back and for historical purposes and for subpoena and to make sure that the law is followed. And, you know, just they're making a mockery not only of that issue,

But really, again, I just keep coming back to all of our intelligence. So same thing here. Director Ratcliffe from the CIA and Chelsea Gabbard still getting pressed and they just have nothing to say. Let's take a listen. Did this conversation at some point include information on weapons packages, targets or timing? Not that I'm aware of. Director Gabbard, same question. Same answer and defer to the Department of Defense on that question.

Well, those are two different answers, but you're saying that did not, that was not part of the conversation. That's my knowledge. Precise operational issues were not part of this conversation. Correct. So that was previously, and they said precise operations were not included there. We showed you all the messages, guys. Like, it's pretty obvious. Director of Ratcliffe for the CIA. Not that I'm aware of. What are you aware of then? You're not aware of your own group chat? I mean- What's happening? I don't read every message in every group chat, but that seems like an important one. Yeah, neither do I. But yeah, that's probably-

Out of all the messages in that chat, that's the only one I'm reading, right? That's the one that I'm like, okay, got it. Paying attention. And, you know, maybe you would want to scroll back in your phone and look at it. Look, I just, again, they are continuing this of their own making. The easiest thing to do immediately after. Mike Walsh, we appreciate your service. Susie Wiles calls him up and says, Mike,

Listen, man, we all made mistakes. You added a journalist. You added a journalist. The president needs his resignation letter on his desk right now. We've got to go. We'll see you. We wish you the best. And then you move on. And everyone moves on. It's a dumb mistake. Okay. Yeah, it's a really dumb mistake. No harm, no foul. Yeah, there might be one or two things. But instead, it's a one-day thing. Now it becomes a one-week thing that we've been covering this. I guarantee you the fallout and all this is going to continue. Every Republican in Congress is going to get asked about this.

every Republican or every member of the Trump cabinet, you're gonna be pressed about that. They're not even gonna be able to do a press conference now forever. I mean, Trump, every single, I watched the entire White House press briefing room, nine out of 11 questions were about this signal chat. And she was like, is this all that you guys have to ask about? And it's like, yeah, because you're lying and you just keep saying stupid shit. Like we're gonna have our technical experts

uh... look into this you this is not going away right and the press loves when

an official says a thing that can be verified. - Oh, 100%, same. - And you can verify that it's not true. Like they love that. It doesn't matter what it is. - Right. And you know, I think the public loves it too. - Oh yeah. - Like I said, there's something about the story. It has penetrated the zeitgeist. People are loving it, they're eating it up. The memes are everywhere. - Real crime but really stupid. - Yeah, it's the sheer stupidity of it and then if we pair that at a major political level,

Again, if I'm the government, what do I want my narrative to be? I want it to be about tariffs. I want it to be about immigration. That's right. We haven't even talked about the auto tariffs. That's right. Auto tariffs. And we haven't decided on to put in the show because it's actually kind of unclear what exactly they are. And I want to see the actual effect as they go in, just in terms of the whether it applies to just finished cars or not. So we'll probably cover it on Monday. But

the point is, is that you want like news about things that you're doing to be the thing. And so again, like I said, even on the deportations, look, we can argue about due process and all that stuff all day long. At the end of the day, this stuff is pretty popular, you know, in terms of deportation. I will acknowledge that. Yeah. It's popular.

Like that's what the ground that I wanna be fighting on. Just today, there was some MS-13 operation. Same thing, that's what you want the news to be about. Now they can say, oh, it's your fault because you're not covering it. It's like, no, no, no, no, no. You're the people who made a colossal national security mistake and you refuse to fire the guy and then be clown yourself

for a 72-hour period by attacking the people who reported it as opposed to the people who were responsible for it. You deserve everything that's coming your way. So this is the car clown show that reminds me just of 2017, except then I think Trump would have had the good sense to actually fire him.

I mean, Scaramucci was fired after what, 13 days? Yeah, and they're accidentally buttressing the credibility of The Atlantic and Jeffrey Goldberg. You're right. People are going to be like, oh, maybe that wasn't a hoax. Isn't that the worst part? That suckers and losers thing. Isn't that the worst part? That The Atlantic has been getting a bunch more subscribers. It's like, guys, why do you do this? You know? They need each other. They were failing.

They literally were going their road to bankruptcy before all of this. And now you just gave them the number one story in the world. It drove a ton of subscriptions. I bet you they printed millions just off of this story. Don't they have Bezos' –

Wives? No, Lorraine Powell Jobs. Even worse. Steve Jobs' widow is the person who is bankrupt. So they were going to be okay. Yeah, they're always going to be fine. Why they even pretend to need to make money is always a whole other... That's a difficult and different conversation.

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are none other than Selena Gomez and Benny Blanco. I can't wait for you to hear this episode about their love story, about their relationship, like you've never heard it before. I want to go back to the first time you ever met.

Thank you so much for this. One of the greatest. Thank you. I'm Selena, but we're watching Disney. When you're a pop star like she is, and you're a huge entity, and people set up all these walls before, and then the first second, you disarmed everybody. By the way, congratulations on your engagement. What I felt for Benny, it was everything about him was honest. He'll tell me anything, anything.

that he's feeling and it made me feel like I could do the same. If we would have met each other when we were younger, it would have never worked. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

In a special election for state senate in Pennsylvania, Democrats flipped a deep red Republican district. James Malone ended up defeating the Republican candidate by just a few hundred votes. On the other hand, you only have a few thousand people that end up voting in these races. This is

Lancaster County, the suburbs outside of Lancaster and the more rural areas there. Trump had won it by something like 15 points. Let's roll a little bit of James Malone, very Lancaster man, winning this seat. There is no safe seat or there's no place that is not available.

to run. Hours after polls closed across northern Lancaster County, Democrat James Malone was projected the winner of Tuesday's special election. You can certainly imagine that guy being a good time at the tailgate ahead of the birds game. Can you not saga? And apparently, so he was running against the chairman of the Lancaster County Commission who

Obviously, he's a high-profile guy in the area, but not terribly well-liked. Elon Musk had invested some energy in this race. He had a bunch of paid voters throughout the state in his database after offering $100 to anybody that would sign his petition and then go out and vote.

and vote against the law, by the way. But when you win- The reason why I think this is so significant is not just the Trump margin, but the registration advantage. So one of the things that was a canary in the coal mine ahead of the election was the crazy registration numbers coming out of Bucks County and a few other places. This is something that Scott Pressler, who's one of those Republican activists,

really bragged about, about the ability to have registered Republicans. And that registration figure ended up being obviously a canary in terms of the Republican advantage in the state of Pennsylvania and actually the flippening of some of these districts that previously had gone for Biden and went to Trump. So the reason why this is significant is that in this county, the Republicans actually held a huge registration advantage. Now, the seat opens up

because the person who held it left to go work for Dave McCormick, that's currently the Republican in the United States Senate for the state of Pennsylvania. But

The Democrat has not won this seat since 1979. 18. 1879. Oh, it's really? Yeah, it's like post-Reconstruction. Okay, big deal, Towie. And the reason why it all matters is that in Pennsylvania, they're all doing post-Trump analysis. What do we even do? Now, Josh Shapiro recorded a robocall

call that went to all of the people in the district. Remember, Shapiro, dramatically more popular than any other Democrat in the entire state. What is it, 13% approval margin or something like that? It's crazy. It might be 19%. You're right. It might honestly even be higher. Now, here we see- No, I mean, you might be right. It might even be 1979. Oh, okay. All right. But that's-

Yeah, that's a Democratic district back then. Regardless, it doesn't matter. Long time. It's been a while. 18 or 1979, same thing, same thing. Let's just consider that-

what we see here is a blessing and a curse for the Democrats. The blessing is this, before the election of 2024, these libs who are registered and want to vote in low turnout elections, they are ready to roll. They're ready to put up their signs and they're ready to vote and they're ready to donate and to get activated. That's the midterm advantage. Same thing, reason why we saw big midterm gain there for the Democrats.

The problem is, is that in a high turnout election with very low propensity people, people who have no idea what the state Senate even is, which I get it. If you're just living your life, you're like, what is the state Senate? You mean the United States Senate? For those folks, they are dramatically more pro-Trump

this time around. So we don't wanna read too much into this, but it's still obviously very important, especially for the midterms, because midterms is usually lower turnout, which means that the more dedicated people come out and you just can't look back at the Obama presidency and not say that 2010

Genuinely did change everything. - Right, 'cause they were winning special elections in '09. - Exactly, they were blowing it out in '09. You could see all the Tea Party stuff. All the script was right there for those of us who were watching. - And Lancaster is a particularly well-organized area for the left. There's a group called Lancaster Stands Up that I've written about in the past. Going back to like 2018, they've been doing a lot of grassroots organizing and door knocking and building up their local capacity.

They might be slightly better positioned even in a special election than in general. But Democrats are looking at this, and what you saw from a lot of them was, okay, now on to Wisconsin. Yes. Let's talk about that. Can you break that down for us? So Wisconsin, there's a Supreme Court race coming up between the liberal or the Democrat. It's a nonpartisan race.

Susan Crawford on that side, and Brad Schimel is the county judge, former Republican state attorney general. So even though it is a nonpartisan race, everybody in Wisconsin knows if you're Democrat, you want Crawford. If you're Republican, you want Schimel.

There are obviously major issues that will come to the Supreme Court, abortion rights, but also gerrymandering and election laws. That's what matters on the kind of national level. Yeah. Because Wisconsin, of course, will continue to be a battleground state. Elon Musk, his groups have put in, he has put in something like $17 million so far. It's like the most that...

There's been for a Supreme Court campaign already. It's, what is it, April 1st, so this coming Tuesday is the election. Emily will be there. - Oh really? - On the ground for the election. Wisconsin native. Democrats, they have money. They obviously can't keep up with Tesla cash, but they're not gonna be completely ignored and blanked off of the airwaves.

Wisconsin's going to have a Supreme Court race every year for the next six years or something, so we're going to potentially see a lot of swings back and forth. Why do they care so much, though? Why do they care so much here about the state Supreme Court? Because of the gerrymandering cases? The gerrymandering cases, which...

will influence whether or not, you know, what, you know, the, so the Republicans, when they took control in 2010 of the state, redrew, redrew the boundaries for the local, for the state legislature and also for the federal one so that the House delegation has been imbalanced despite it being, people can look it up now, but despite it being a 50-50 state, far more Republicans getting sent to Washington. So if you, if you can chip away at that,

when you only have a three seat deficit in the House, it's important to move from there to retake control of the House for Democrats. And then the Supreme Court decides when you can vote, what the mail voting rules are, what the rules are around counting. You just had this executive order from Trump yesterday trying to kind of take federal control of elections. It won't work.

because the federal government doesn't really have that level of control, especially without congressional action. He tried to put in something in place that says, you know, ballots that come in after Election Day, which are mostly military ballots, you know, can't be counted. But that so that's the battleground. And the battleground is the Wisconsin Supreme Court. Got it. So it's.

When Pennsylvania flipped its Supreme Court in 2017, 2018, Republicans see that as a key reason that they lost Pennsylvania in 2020 because then the court opened up, you know, did redistricting and opened up mail voting. That's right. In a way that the Trump team thought was, you know, fraudulent, unfair and...

and all those things. Because they probably would have, whatever. We'll get into that. It's like, yeah, you just happen to win the presidency with lower propensity voters next time. But whatever. Doesn't matter.

Doesn't need to go into that. Yeah, as you said, this election, I was just looking, determines whether you have the 4-3 liberal control. So this literally will determine the flip ahead of midterms. So that's why it's so important. And then more so, you actually, looking at some of the data, pretty, honestly, I'd be feeling pretty good if I was a Democrat.

Nearly 48% more early ballots have been cast compared to the same point from two years ago. Yeah. I mean, I don't know if I'm reading too much into that. Right. And this is low propensity because if you're voting in the Supreme Court election, you care about...

more than the average person. Yeah, you have a real, like, you're, no offense, but you're weird. You care a lot about the Wisconsin Supreme Court. You might end up getting a couple million people turn out. Yeah, so right now it says more than 345,000 people have returned their ballots, either by mail or by, that's crazy compared to 233,000 at this point just two years ago. What is even the voting population of Wisconsin? It can't be that many. So honestly, good for you guys. That's pretty high voter participation. But

I mean, they're also being bombarded with ads. Apparently more than $81 million has been spent now on a state Supreme Court race, just to show you guys how important that is. So not just Elon, who is moving in here, but this Susan Crawford, she apparently has raised more than $25 million right

now for the race so far. They're not going to be... They are actual. She's got George Soros apparently backing her, JB Pritzker, who has been doing some rallies and stuff. So they're blanketing the entire state. And like I said, it's not that big of a state, so you easily could reach a lot of people

with this amount of overall media attention. So super interesting. Just, you know, we're always looking for what does it mean, all of this, especially for the midterms. Like usually I think the rule here is that with the midterms, these lower propensity special elections and all that, you're going to have to really pay attention to them. It also goes to, it's a big test case of Elon because Elon Musk

You know, there's still a lot of question over how much influence Elon actually had on the Pennsylvania results because, you know, his people obviously want to be like, yeah, see our registration drive and all that. I'm not going to downplay it. But the fact is, is that we saw a national trend. You know, you can only pay so many people or inspire them to come sign some registration. And it would be different if Pennsylvania dramatically outperformed

the rest of the country, but it kind of didn't. The same low propensity figures were across the entire nation, from California to Texas, to even here in Virginia, the margins for Donald Trump. So you can see even where Elon and his groups had no impact, they still had a huge run up in the overall tally. And obviously Trump won the popular vote, so pretty important. - Right. - Yeah. So keeping it all together, we're gonna watch that guys, but the democratic race, it certainly matters a lot. And Emily's gonna be on the ground, so that should be fun. We can get a on the ground report from her.

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