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MSNBC’s Nicolle Wallace on Iran & the Limits of Trump’s Power

2025/6/19
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Nicolle Wallace, known for her MSNBC show, discusses her new podcast, "The Best People." She explains the origin of the title, its focus on human interest stories, and her reasons for creating a less formal platform than her typical news program.
  • Wallace's new podcast features personal conversations with various A-listers.
  • The title "The Best People" is a reappropriation of Trump's branding.
  • The podcast aims to foster a sense of community and deeper conversations.

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As President Trump considers striking Iran, Kara talks to Nicolle Wallace — host of MSNBC’S Deadline: White House and the new podcast *The Best People. *)

They unpack President Trump’s mixed messaging on Iran and his growing credibility gap with the American public, the political calculus behind his domestic shows of force, and the disturbing rise of political violence in America. Plus, a look back at the 2008 presidential campaign and a candid conversation about how journalists can remain relevant in a rapidly shifting media landscape. 

Please note: This conversation was recorded on the morning of Tuesday, June 17th, before Senator Mike Lee deleted his heinous posts on X about the assassinations in Minnesota, and before President Trump demanded Iran’s “unconditional surrender” on Truth Social.

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