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The Billionaire Who Took America Online

2022/10/17
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卡拉·斯威舍是一位知名的媒体评论家和播客主持人，专注于科技和政治话题的深入分析。
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史蒂夫·凯斯是美国最知名和最成功的企业家之一，他在使互联网成为日常生活的一部分方面具有先驱性，并通过Revolution投资公司和Case Foundation促进企业家精神和社会慈善事业。
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Kara Swisher 和 Naima Raza：本期节目讨论了 Elizabeth Holmes 寻求重审以及 Peter Thiel 领导的反觉醒投资集团在硅谷的影响。Holmes 的案件引发了人们对硅谷问责制和潜在性别歧视的关注。Peter Thiel 支持的反觉醒金融机构 Glorify 的失败启动也凸显了反觉醒运动的局限性。 Kara Swisher：硅谷缺乏批判性思维，导致投资决策失误。Elizabeth Holmes 的审判可能存在性别歧视因素，即使她被指控的罪行成立，她也只是众多硅谷不法行为中唯一被起诉的人。Elizabeth Holmes 和 Kim Kardashian 等人成为监管机构的目标，是因为她们是容易攻击的目标。反觉醒运动并非新鲜事物，只是投机者利用了人们的愤怒和不满情绪。其核心是商业利益，而非意识形态，缺乏可持续的商业模式。特朗普不太可能遵守传票。Elon Musk 停止向乌克兰提供 Starlink 服务是一个商业决策，而非政治立场。 Steve Case：AOL 的成功源于对互联网的早期信念和远见，但与时代华纳的合并失败主要是因为执行不力。大型科技公司的目标应该是促进全球沟通，但应避免信息茧房效应。互联网的负面影响是人性和算法共同作用的结果。科技公司应重视政府监管，避免因忽视监管而面临问题。美国可能因自身问题而衰落，而非被中国等崛起的力量所取代。美国创新资源分配不均，导致少数地区和人群获益，而大多数人群被边缘化。传统的美国梦对大多数人来说不再适用，因为创新经济和创业机会集中在少数几个地区。人们对美国梦感到失望，是因为他们被排除在创新经济之外。“Rise of the Rest”项目旨在通过投资和扶持各地创业者来促进经济发展。虽然硅谷仍然是创新中心，但创新和创业机会将逐渐分散到其他地区。应避免将创业文化政治化，以促进各地区之间的合作。各州应在制定政策时考虑其对人才吸引力的影响。通过促进创新和创业，可以弥合美国社会的分裂。年轻的创业者不必为了追求机会而离开家乡，可以在当地创业并发展壮大。

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Steve Case reflects on the evolution of AOL and its merger with Time Warner, discussing the vision behind the merger and the lessons learned from its execution.

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Kara and Steve Case go back — way back, to the 1990s. She was a young Washington Post reporter covering a new thing called “the Internet” … and he was a co-founder of the company that became AOL. In this conversation, they take a walk back through time to look at how far the world has come and where tech companies have stumbled or fallen flat. They discuss Case’s new book, “Rise of the Rest,” which offers an optimistic future for the expansion of entrepreneurship and innovation beyond a handful of places like Silicon Valley, Boston and New York City. They also discuss whether a more equitable distribution of economic growth is possible, given some of the nation’s political divides — and potential solutions for bridging those divides. 

Before the interview, Kara and Nayeema talk about the newsmakers of the day, including Theranos founder, Elizabeth Holmes, who is seeking a new trial, and the deep pockets of “anti-woke” investors in Silicon Valley including, of course, Peter Thiel. As always, Kara offers unsolicited advice. 

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You can find Kara and Nayeema on Twitter @karaswisher and @nayeema.

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