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Trump's Tariffs: Chaos, Confusion & Consequences

2025/4/14
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Kara Swisher: 我组织了三位来自贸易、经济和金融领域的专家,来讨论特朗普总统的关税政策。他的关税政策导致市场动荡,并让许多国内和国际盟友感到困惑。尽管他通过宣布暂停所谓的“对等关税”暂时平息了债券市场,但他造成的这种不确定性仍在持续。与此同时,中国已经对美国进口商品征收了145%的关税,并暂停了稀土矿物的出口,作为回应。 Catherine Rampell: 特朗普的关税政策是疯狂的,缺乏逻辑和目标。它不仅损害了美国选民的利益,也损害了全世界的利益。政府似乎默许欺诈行为。 Bill Cohan: 特朗普的关税政策是彻头彻尾的骗局,有人利用市场波动从中获利。 Raj Bhala: 特朗普利用国家紧急状态法来实施关税政策,这是对法律的滥用。他的关税政策将美国经济和人民囚禁在一个排外的自给自足的经济体中,这在历史上从未有过好结果。 Oren Kass: 如果特朗普政府的目标是重建美国制造业,他们应该采取哪些措施?

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President Trump's chaotic rollout and partial rollback of tariffs has roiled financial markets and confused many allies, both domestically and internationally. Although he temporarily calmed bond markets by announcing a 90-day pause on his misleadingly labeled "reciprocal tariffs," the uncertainty he created continues. Meanwhile, China has responded to the 145% tariffs on their imported goods by imposing retaliatory tariffs on American products and halting exports of rare earth minerals.

To help us makes sense of the mess, Kara talks to three experts: 

Raj Bhala is a professor at the University of Kansas School of Law and one of the foremost scholars on international trade law. He is also the author of Trade War: Causes, Conduct, and Consequences of Sino-American Confrontation).

Bill Cohan is an M&A banker-turned-financial journalist and a co-founder of *Puck. *He’s the author of a number of books, including Power Failure: The Rise and Fall of an American Icon).

Catherine Rampell is a nationally syndicated columnist at The Washington Post who specializes in economics, politics, and public policy. She’s a special correspondent for PBS Newshour) and she will soon anchor and co-host of MSNBC’s The Weekend.

This episode was recorded on Wednesday April 9th.

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