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111. Would You Be Happier if You Lived Someplace Else?
2022/8/21
No Stupid Questions
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Angela Duckworth
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Stephen Dubner
以《怪诞经济学》系列著名的美国作家、记者和广播电视人物。
Stephen Dubner：人们常常待在让自己不快乐的地方，即使他们可以离开。他以Angela Duckworth为例，Angela虽然经常抱怨费城，但他对生活的满意度仍然很高。他提出一个疑问：为什么不快乐的人们不都搬到更快乐的城市？他分析了人口数据，指出许多美国大城市的人口在疫情期间减少，包括费城和纽约。他提到一篇名为《不快乐的城市》的学术论文，该论文研究了不同城市的幸福感水平，并指出纽约是美国最不快乐的城市。他认为，人们留在不快乐的城市的原因可能与幸福感无关，可能是因为沉没成本，或者因为不同地区的人们对“幸福”的理解不同。他提出，人们对幸福感的判断可能存在偏差，不同地区的人们对“幸福”的理解可能不同，衡量幸福感的主观性会影响跨地区比较的准确性。他认为，人们选择居住地时，除了幸福感，还有其他因素需要考虑，例如经济因素，城市提供更多机会，例如收入、地位和交友机会，这可能会让人们即使不快乐也选择留在那里。他认为人们可能因为沉没成本而留在不快乐的地方，也可能是因为“草地总是更绿”的心理。
Angela Duckworth：她承认她对费城有很多抱怨，但她对生活的满意度仍然很高。她列举了费城存在的严重问题，例如垃圾处理系统问题、犯罪、毒品滥用和种族歧视问题。她认为，人们的幸福感更多地取决于日常生活中微小的互动，而不是整体环境。她认为她对费城的满意度更多地取决于她个人的生活环境，而不是费城整体的情况。她解释了她留在费城的理由：她的母亲、工作和朋友。她与朋友和丈夫的亲密关系是她留在费城的重要原因。她认为，搬到新的地方可能会促进创造力和活力，但她同时也承认，她对费城的抱怨可能是她自我认同的一部分，也可能是她对美好生活的追求不仅包括幸福感，还包括刺激和学习的机会。她认为，生活在城市中心可能更有利于刺激和学习。她最后总结说，人们做决定时，幸福感并非唯一因素，还有其他重要因素，例如家庭责任。
Angela Duckworth: While acknowledging her complaints about Philadelphia, Angela maintains a high level of life satisfaction. She lists serious issues in Philadelphia, such as garbage disposal problems, crime, drug abuse, and racial discrimination. She argues that happiness depends more on small daily interactions than the overall environment. She attributes her satisfaction to her personal life circumstances rather than Philadelphia as a whole. She explains her reasons for staying: her mother, her job, and her friends. Her close relationships with friends and her husband are key reasons for staying. She suggests that moving might boost creativity and vitality, but also admits that her complaints might be part of her self-identity, or that her pursuit of a good life includes stimulation and learning opportunities, believing that being in a city center is more stimulating. She concludes that happiness isn't the only factor in decision-making; other factors, such as family responsibilities, are also important.
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Angela Duckworth and Stephen Dubner discuss why people stay in places that make them unhappy, focusing on Philadelphia's issues with trash collection and population decline.
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