177. What Does Success Look Like?
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What matters more: meeting our own ambitions, or winning fame and glory? What’s it like to earn a gold medal at the Olympics? And why didn’t Mike’s grandfather get a watch?

• SOURCES:

• Alain de Botton), writer and founder of The School of Life.

• Kirk Flatow), head coach of co-ed varsity track and field at Monta Vista High School.

• Katie Ledecky), competitive swimmer.

• Diana Nyad), long-distance swimmer.

• Michael Phelps), former competitive swimmer.

• Martin Seligman), professor of psychology at the University of Pennsylvania.

• Kerri Walsh Jennings), professional beach volleyball player.

• John Wooden), men's basketball coach at the University of California, Los Angeles.

• RESOURCES:

• "Why Success Doesn’t Lead to Satisfaction)," by Ron Carucci (*Harvard Business Review, *2023).

• "Katie Ledecky Matches Michael Phelps Record With Dominant World Championships Win)," by Patrick Andres (*Sports Illustrated, *2023).

• Success Index)*, *by Populace and Gallup (2019).

• "PERMA and the Building Blocks of Well-Being)," by Martin Seligman (*The Journal of Positive Psychology, *2018).

• "Michael Phelps: ‘I Am Extremely Thankful That I Did Not Take My Life),’" by Susan Scutti (*CNN, *2018).

• "The PERMA-Profiler: A Brief Multidimensional Measure of Flourishing)," by Julie Butler and Margaret L. Kern (*International Journal of Wellbeing, *2016).

• "Diana Nyad: Dream Accomplished)," by Michel Martin (*Tell Me More, *2013).

• "A Kinder, Gentler Philosophy of Success)," by Alain de Botton (*TEDGlobal, *2009).

• "The Difference Between Winning and Succeeding)," by John Wooden (*TED, *2001).

• EXTRAS:

• "Where Is the Line Between Exaggeration and Lying?)" by *No Stupid Questions *(2023).

• "Is a 'Success Hangover' Real?)" by *No Stupid Questions *(2022).