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Ep 138: One Big Communist Rick Roll

2023/6/6
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Kyle: 参与了编剧罢工,旨在争取更高的版税分成,对具体比例存在分歧,并评论了罢工期间标语的质量问题。 Blake: 同意罢工标语质量有待提高,并指出标语的制作目的不仅限于现场效果,还包括在社交媒体上争取关注。 Adam: 讲述了其曾祖父Robert Meltzer的经历,包括参与《大独裁者》的创作、参军以及死于诺曼底登陆,并讨论了麦卡锡主义对好莱坞的影响,以及其在罢工游行中使用“Gays for pay”标语引发的争议。 Kyle: 对好莱坞编剧罢工的版税分成比例存在不同的理解,并认为罢工期间编剧们的标语质量参差不齐,需要改进。 Blake: 同意Kyle的观点,并补充说明罢工标语也需要考虑社交媒体传播效果。 Adam: 分享了他对好莱坞编剧罢工的看法,以及他在罢工游行中使用“Gays for pay”标语引发的争议,并对社交媒体上的一些负面评论表示不解。

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How's everybody feeling? Kyle, I heard you. I saw you on the picket line the other day. That's kind of sick, butthole. Hello. Yummy. I was out there. Yeah, yeah. I was out there doing the striking, standing up. Standing up. Trying to get a 2%. Trying to get our 2%. All right, come on now. Is that all they want? Let's do it. Let's go. We just want them residuals. Let's get them.

Okay? Wouldn't it be nice? It would be nice. Is that what they want? 2%? That seems like a shitty amount. It's a whup-whap. Is that a whup-whap amount? 2% of the gross, like they just want studios to give that to the guild so that the guilds can disperse it amongst their members, I believe. But also 2%, what does that even mean? And don't quote me on the 2%. I thought it was 2% of all of the profits that they were making as streamers comes back to the people. Okay. I think that's what...

That's what I understood it to be. Grossly wrong, though. If you're getting your strike information here. There could be four worse guys to explain that. Yeah. Yeah. I feel like that's way wrong. But this is why everyone's talking about AI instead of like the like ins and outs or like because computers can write this. Dude.

Admittedly, because I went and striked with Blake the other day. I was with him too, holding down Hollywood. Admittedly, looking at all the signs that were written by WGA members, I was like, oh, maybe we need some AI to help us write some of these signs because they were bad. A lot of them were really bad. Yeah. The signs are not funny. Oh, that's a slam. That's a big slam. Yes, points.

Or they were like so wordy that a car driving past couldn't read all that. You're like, it just needs to be like a few words. Right. Well, it's not for that. It's for social media. People are trying to get the clicks and the attention we deserve because people need to understand what we're fighting for.

That's true. Yes, the Royal Week. That is so right. The Royal Week. Good job, yes, exactly. The WGE. I posted a – I grabbed a sign that said gays for pay, which I was like, oh, that's kind of funny. I'll walk around with this sign. What's funny about it exactly? He's the furthest thing from a gay dude, all right?

All right. I'm so not gay, dude. I'm so straight. Therein lies the comedy. Go ahead. And I was like, oh, this is a fun sign. So I was carrying it around. And my DMs, I posted a photo. Kristen Schaal's like, let's grab a photo. Our friend Kristen Schaal is a very funny comedian. On shadows, baby. Yeah, she is. Very funny.

That's right. Taller than you think. And super, super funny. And she's like, let's get a pic. And I grabbed a pic. She sent it to me. And I posted it. People in my DMs were like,

Matt, dude. You should be gay for free. And in the comments, sorry, the compliment section of Instagram, they were not complimenting. They weren't complimenting? What the fuck? They were like, fuck you and your gay agenda, Adam. I'm like, I don't have a gay agenda. No, it's just they're called tendencies, not agendas. Those are the bros that are mad about Bud Light. Can't a guy gobble? Those are the guys who are secretly gay.

gay themselves and don't want to be gay themselves and are so angry about it. I'm still going to send it. Well, WGA does stand for wants gay assholes. Okay. Is that what it stood for? I never knew. It always has. And they actually converted it into the Writers Guild. McCarthyism during the blacklist era. Sure.

Download us. They were going after gay people. Then they were like, maybe we're just writers. I just want to party. It's not about gay assholes. And so then people started writing movies. Yeah. I'm starting to get in the weeds. You are. I'm listening.

And I'm sorry. I'm sorry about that. Oh, it's nice. It was good. It was good. No, I liked it a lot. Dude, I'm about to go into a little trip down memory lane when it comes to blacklisting because when I go to France, I'm looking for my great-great-uncle's

Oh, very cool. Do you know this story? Do you guys know this? You're looking for a great-great-uncle's grave. How much time do we have? Yeah, I don't know. I can do it quickly, but it involves the writer's guild. Yeah, give us the elevator pitch. I'll be right back. I'm going to go take a shit. It involves the writer's guild, so I kind of feel like it should be out there because it is the writer's guild. It's early writer's guild story and McCarthyism. Ooh!

Okay, well spit it out, dude. All right, so my great-great-uncle, a guy named Robert Meltzer, wrote for... I don't know the name. No, wrote The Great Dictator with Charlie Chaplin. Right, yes. Very cool. Never heard of him. Fucking sick. I'm a dude. He's accredited assistant director on that, and the Writers Guild was not around when they were making that movie. So he's an assistant director, but did a lot of writing on the film. When was this? This was in like 1941, or 38, 39, 40-ish.

But yeah, so, okay. Wait, wait, wait, let me set the pictures. World War II backdrop, hence the great dictator. World War II, great dictator. It's about Hitler. Yeah, what's next? It was very, very edgy for Chaplin to do that. Crazy. Is this when Chaplin does the mustache? Yeah. Well, Chaplin, you know, a little known thing about, a story about the mustache is that he had his character called the Tramp.

had that mustache, and he was a beloved character before Hitler rose to power. And actually, the rumor is that Hitler grabbed that mustache so that people would love him immediately because they would be reminded of the trash. So like smart guy, not like fully. But a real pile of fucking trash, that man. You're saying Hitler? Yeah. Yeah.

I stand by that quote. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, I feel like we could all get on board with that. Pretty edgy. Hot take. Yeah, yeah. Thank you. Good. I'm glad. I'm glad. Good. So what else has happened? So he wrote it. He was with Charlie Chaplin. And then, do you know that speech that he fucking, at the end of that movie? Yeah.

My of course, yes, everyone. My uncle fucking I don't my uncle opposed that speech and got kicked off set. Charlie Chaplin kicked him off of set when they were filming that. And how's the speech go again? Yeah, it's where Charlie breaks the fourth wall and all of a sudden does this like impassioned speech to camera. What's the fourth? OK, Polly Char and the reasoning that.

my uncle was like, no, you can't do that. It's because they were making a satire. And at that point it was like, right. You're breaking the fourth wall. I've heard you say that. So your uncle was like kind of pro Hitler's that you're saying and was like, dude, you can't, we're trying to make like a funny comedy. Your boobs are huge. That's what it's sounding like. They set out. No, no, no, no, no. It's sounding like your, your uncle was protecting Hitler.

His leg is late. No, you're not even close, bro, because I'll get to that part of the story. Okay, I'm waiting. It is a long story. I'm sorry. I didn't realize it was going to be this long. You just said it wasn't long. When I tell that I can do it, you guys are asking a lot of questions. I can't think of anything to talk about. Go ahead. Water trash.

Okay. So he gets on the grounds of satire. You cannot. Okay. Can't do it because the whole mission was to laugh in the face of the devil. It's like the whole mission was to laugh in the face of the devil. Right. And then this bro was like, it's like explaining the joke after telling me. And I get it. He was saying you can't do that. But Chaplin was probably scared. He was like, I think we have to. Yes. Otherwise, we're going to people are going to find out we're down with Hitler.

So they had to do it. They had to do it. We have to hide in plain sight. Down with the sickness. Anyways, I'll do the fast forward version if you guys let me. So he got kicked off set. He goes to work with Orson Welles on a World War II project that's in South America. Do you love him? Heard of him. All right. So they're making this documentary where it's called It's All True. Okay. And it's supposed to bring the South America and North America together.

That was the whole, it was supposedly a war effort. Oh, but what was Orson was just using it as a way to dodge the draft. Do not come. Orson didn't want to go to the war. Yeah. Uh,

Oh, well, who does? Nobody wants to. Of course. I'm like, yeah, I didn't want to do that. Some people do. Yeah, that's true. So he made this documentary and they were like pulling money out of the U.S. government and pulling money out of Hollywood to make this documentary called It's All True. Right. My uncle was like, he got fed up with that. He's like, no, fuck this. I hate Hitler so much. I'm going. I'm going to kiss him. I'm joining World War Two and I'm going to go fucking kill him.

I hate Hitler. Going to go kill Hitler? He wanted to kill Hitler, and he wanted to write. So if you see me hanging out with him, know your enemies. So was he a sniper, or what was his? He became an Alpha Team Ranger.

Which I don't know a lot about the military, but that shit's high up there. It sounds important. It sounds tight. Yeah. And he wanted to write the great American war novel. Oh, my God. In Hitler's blood. Like Kiss. So he fucking stormed the beaches of Normandy with a typewriter on his back.

Okay. That's a bad move. That's a lot of weight, yeah. Yeah, dude, that's going to weigh you down. People are going to hear you click clacking when you sneak up. He jumped right off the boat and was like, oh, fuck. Yeah, he maybe should have just wrote it in a journal and then transcribed it later. Pencil and paper. Pencil and paper could have done the job. Hold up.

So anyways, he's out. He's got the typewriter. He's out there. Please tell me he smashes somebody's head with the typewriter. No, the shit sucks after that. The shit sucks after that because he goes to fucking Brest. After that? The Battle of the Brest and he fucking. What's Brest? It's a place in France, northwest France. God, France is so cool. It's a famous battleground. Battle of the pussy. Yeah, right. Yeah. He went to pussy. Your boobs are huge.

And he fucking, he got shot. He died. He went to Clitoria. Oh, wait, sorry. That sucks. Battle of the booty. He was shot and died there. He got shot and died. He died at breast? He died. They mowed him down. He died in the titties. Done. Okay. Rough. Rough stuff. So they buried him in France. So you're going to visit him and...

at his burial site there. I'm going to find the burial site. Does he have a proper headstone or no, because it's war. I don't know if his name's on it. Cause we have like a plot. That's what's cool. Adam, there's a typewriter out there that people go to and you type a message of love, right? Well, here's, here's where the WGA comes in.

Because after he died in the war, the WGA gave him an award. Okay. So they had the Robert Meltzer Award that was active for four years. Cool. Yeah, it was sick. They gave it to people who served who were writers. And that was the whole. And then someone was like, did you ever meet this guy? We should definitely not have the award in his name. No. What happened was is McCarthyism. Oh.

And now I want to know what that is. Tell us what that is. So McCarthyism is what Durr's was talking about at the beginning, which is the blacklist era in Hollywood, where if you were a communist or if there was any chance you were a communist, you got blacklisted. Or if they just didn't like what you were saying. They would blacklist you and label you as a communist is maybe more accurate. Yes, they would tack it on. It was like a witch hunt in a way, isn't it?

It was. Yeah. It was. Awesome boy. And at that time, he was young in Hollywood, and he did, like, you know, communism, like, was still an idea when he was, like, 24, 25. So he was checking it out. Oh, that checks out. I'll say something checks out. I just want to party. Communism, like, failed the world during World War II. It fucking...

completely failed so it's like okay is that when i don't know i don't know when we were because weren't did it fail already or was it failing it was like when russia shook hands with germany that was when it like failed because everybody thought that uncle that joe stahl all the way through world war ii they were doing it a nightmare

Everybody thought that Joe Stalin was gonna like- Joey Stalin. Go beat up Germany. And then when he shook hands with Germany, people were like, what the fuck? And that was actually on the day they started filming The Great Dictator, which is gnarly. Because in World War II, my nine-year-old just told me the other day that Russia had the most casualties by far. Right.

Really? Yes. Yeah. That's Joseph Stalin. And did that happen before the handshake or after the handshake? It was at the handshake was when we were like, that was like, well, Russia was communist. And so everybody's like, Steve, look at, look at Joe Stalin. Like shit's working over there, I think. Jody Stahls. And then when, uh,

And then when they shook hands, it was fucked up. Yeah. This is important. Well, I will say I've never been to anywhere communist, but then shooting in Berlin last year and we were in East Berlin and you just see the difference between West Berlin and everything's newer and...

And then East Berlin was like all the old buildings and you see like the communist housing and it's just like fucking depressing looking. And you're like, my God, this is like, uh, you could see how they just made everything the exact same and there was no, uh,

They didn't put any – nothing was nice or they didn't go above and beyond because everything had to be the same. Well, that was because all those people were like we're doing this for the greater good of the community. But the problem was is that you have this dictator up top that then can turn and has control over everybody because nobody has any power. Everybody is the same. So it was like kind of –

And that's what happened. And then that's why there was so much genocide in Russia. This is important. And so here's my question. That shit's important. Stupid dumbass question. I'm a dumbass too. I'm like nervous talking like all these facts. I'm a dumbass. I'm a dumbass. So communism in theory is that like...

no matter what your job is, everybody kind of gets the same thing, but then it allows for corruption at the top. So if yeah, communism at the top isn't corrupt, is it fucking sick? Is it off the chain? Perfect. I think that's why everybody says communism is good on paper, good on paper. But once you put it into practice in theory, yeah. Once you put it into practice, it doesn't quite work because somebody is going to grab the power because of corruption. Kyle, uh, since you know so much about communism, uh,

I kind of do. If you are, let's say you're like a doctor or something, do you get paid the same amount as if you are a plumber or like a, you know, you lay bricks or something? Or like a really cool actor? As far as communism works? You know, I don't know how the pay structure worked in all of that. I know that, I don't really know. I'm not going to pretend like I know. It's kind of interesting. I think I'm into it. I don't know.

You're a communist? Okay, okay. Wait, whoa, whoa, whoa. I can see Ders being a communist for sure. Do I get to be one of the guys at the top? No, but it's interesting for people to become doctors because they want to become doctors, not because they're going to get paid out the ass and push pills and all that shit. Do you know what I'm saying? Right. Well, that's kind of which loops back to the WGA. That was kind of the quote that came from the bro, which...

Which bro was it that gave the evil quote where it's like, oh, they'll come back. They love their job. They do this because they love to write. Oh, you're talking about the guy. Oh, the executive. You're saying recently. Yes, very recently. For this strike, they were like, don't worry, it won't last long because eventually these people love to write and be creative and

so much that they will they'll they'll come crawling back if we just wait it out right sure but like also just go write a book or write something else or like make music start a podcast yeah still gonna send it we'll be fine send it still gonna send okay so let me finish let me finish the story real quick can i finish it that's still going it's still happening it's not done yet not done it's not done it's really quick at the end he was posthumously blacklisted

We've got to get the award back. And we're still in the elevator with you. And the award was stripped of him. And then... Right.

I got to get to a meeting. No, no, this isn't an elevator pitch. This is like my fucking kin. We know the elevator pitch. That was last week. Yeah, this is my kin, dude. I've changed shirts. It's clearly a new way. Dude, it's his really close relative from 100 years ago. Yeah, I've never met him. It's been dead for 80 years. It's in the bloodline, Kyle. I appreciate it. Yes. Nepo, baby. Yeah, the irony is that he is buried in an American flag.

while also being labeled a communist. You said buried or married? Buried. He's buried in an American... Oh, I thought he had a sick American flag suit on. He was buried fighting fascism and he died fighting fascism on the American side.

And he's still blacklisted, essentially. And the award isn't there. The whole world gone crazy. And then, yeah, yeah, it's hard to like, and I didn't know about him because of that. That's the thing that's fucked up. It's like, I found out about this guy five years ago. I've been down in Hollywood working and all of a sudden there's like this. How'd you find out about him? My aunt was searching our family tree and saw a purple medal and was like, who's this guy? Whoa. Purple medal? I mean, a purple heart. Wait, wait.

Wait. Unbelievable. That was tight. That was real tight. That was real tight. He got one. I don't know who it is. Who is it? She saw a metal that was spray painted purple and she's like, who did this? Purple magic? I can't even. I can't even. I can't even. I'm going to take a break real quick. Why did this bro spray paint his metal purple? And hang it in the fucking tree? What happened?

I can't believe you just misspoke. Wow, man. That's really touching. Kyle. Never misspeak on this podcast. You cannot misspeak on this podcast. No way. We want to get you. Oh, your uncle got the purple medal.

This dude said the wrong word. What a fucking idiot. Well, that's cool, Kyle. I mean, what is cool is that he worked with two of the most influential people in Hollywood. You know what I mean? Orson Welles and Charlie Chaplin. Very cool. The auteurs. Those are top 10s for sure. They're in my top 10. The auteurs, man. And this dude was like writing with them. It's cool. Yeah. Pretty radical. Yeah, that is wild. Nobody knows about this, but I found a... Now they will, I guess. But I found his journals, dude.

He's got two years of journals working alongside Orson Welles. Nobody knew that? Wow, dude. No. That's crazy. Nobody knew you found them? No. No. He hasn't told anybody yet. How did you find them? Where did you find them at? What's happening? You like went on an archaeological dig? They were under the Purple Metal, dude. Wow, dude. Don't tee it up like that. You want to know how I found it? We were looking this guy up because-

This guy was like a ghost. We couldn't figure out who the fuck he was. We were looking at him over the pandemic. We were looking at and we found a speech by Dalton Trumbo. Now we're talking. That's from the movie. It's the last speech from the movie that Bryan Cranston does. Who's that? Trumbo was the Bryan Cranston movie and he played Dalton Trumbo, who is this writer who was blacklisted and then wrote under a pseudonym and wrote like a million movies.

When he won the Laurel Award, which is, I believe, what he's winning at the end of that movie, in the actual transcription, he's talking about Robert Meltzer. That's radical. Who's that? That's cool. And he's talking about, he's like, we all know what the Laurel Award was. It was the Robert Meltzer Award.

And then he said, and he how ironic a man who died in battle had a daughter named Joe Victory. And me and my brother were like, what the fuck? That's hilarious. Daughter's name is Joe Victory. Wait, wait, hold up. I got to give points to my boy Meltzer for that. Yes, points. That is a point. Yeah. Meltzer, dude.

sick Meltzer if you're looking down on us fucking and then we looked her up and she was she was his daughter and and she had a she had these journals that's cool yeah so you reached out to her and she's like a super old lady now and she has these journals and then you know this is what death becomes hers about

She's actually really young. She has a serum. Oh, that's not what death becomes. Yeah, it's not. It's not old. And they take a serum to look young. Yeah, it's the fountain of youth. All right, go ahead. Sorry to try to derail it there. I'm just trying to. No, it's good. It's funny. We're having fun. This is really good radio. Well, that's cool. That is cool.

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Kyle, you are, you're from Hollywood royalty. And I don't mean that in like a Hollywood way. I mean that in like a nuts and bolts, like guy who was there on the ground, creating the things that changed the way people make and see movies. Yeah, that's radical, dude. Oh, well, so how are you related? Like what is the, the bloodline or whatever? Uh, my mom's dad, his dog. So my grandfather's, um, uncle.

Cool. So that's, I don't know. I don't know how to step that back. Yeah. Grandfather's uncle. Everyone can, can do that. Grandfather's uncle. I don't know what the proper name is. That third cousin first removed from your dad. Okay. Yeah. That would be a great, great uncle or something. That's huge. Yeah. Yeah. So cool. Yeah. Uncle's rock. Do you guys have any, uh, like famous, uh, relatives in your past or anything? That's a good question. Uh,

Do you, Adam? I do. I do. Yeah. Go ahead. Tee yourself up and fucking knock it out of the park, brother. Well, I have Jesse James, a guy in... The actress? No, Jesse James, the

The porn star. The tattoo artist. No, the fucking highway robber, right? The robber? This is actually related. He collects Nazi memorabilia. Yeah, he robbed banks. He robbed banks in the Midwest, in Missouri, in Kansas. He was a bank robber or a train robber? Oh, yes. The gang. Jesse James gang. Yeah, the Jesse James gang. And my great-great-uncle was in the Jesse James gang. Oh, that's sick. And...

was murdered while he was being a lookout as Jesse James was robbing banks on the inside. And see The Outlaws. Speaking of bank robbers, see The Outlaws. There it is. See The Outlaws, July 7th, only on Netflix. This is a bagel. Was your great-great-uncle in Shanghai Noon or probably? What is Shanghai Noon? What does that even mean?

I know your take back. You don't know the Owen Wilson and Wilson, Jackie Chan. Oh, no, he wasn't in that movie. He died like in the whatever, whatever year that was, the 30s, 40s. I wonder if he's in. I wonder if he's in that other movie. What's the other movie? The Assassination of Jesse James by Coward, Robert Coward, the great Robert Ford, whatever is that?

You know what I'm talking about? Yeah, yeah. The other Affleck dude. Yeah, Casey Affleck. Joey Affleck. Yeah. Joey Victory Affleck. What's this guy doing over here? No, that 1960s through the 1866 through 1882. Do we know his name? I'm sure my mom has it written down somewhere. Was it like fucking Buford Devine? Yeah. Right, yeah. Buford Devine!

He wasn't a Divine. He was on my mom's side, but he wasn't her last name either. Her last name is Cobb, and it wasn't their last name. Ty Cobb. Yeah, supposedly. Someone said we're related to Ty Cobb, but I've never heard any real. That's kind of crazy. That's cool. Can I tell you that Ty Cobb is more famous than a guy who was in Jesse James Gangs?

Yeah, but I don't know if that's true. That's just like my uncle being real stoned, being like, you know, and I'm like, how? And then there was no backup to it. But we went to the Jesse James house where he was murdered at in Missouri, I believe. And we went to that house. And now it's like a museum. And there's photos of my great-great uncle there. Wow. When I was a kid, my parents showed us. Does he look like you? Is he hot? Uh.

No. He had to be. No, not that high. No? No. I feel like people were ugly back in the day. No. Bandits were sexy. Yeah, but they put the uggos out front. Yeah. Because no one's looking at them, you know? You put the bandits out front to keep an eye because no one's going to do a second glance at my ugly ass great great uncle, you know? For sure. Catcher's met face. Yeah. Yeah.

That's why he was the lookout. The first guy you see. You're like, let's actually look over this way. I don't need to go to the bank today. I'm fine. They are not over here. It stinks like shit and there's an ugly bro over there. So let's go check the other bank.

Dude, I love that earlier I thought the Jesse James gang was 1930s. I was like, man, maybe the 30s? Way, way off. Long time ago, yeah. Way, way off. That's like Wild Wild West. You say 1860s, right? 1866 through 1882 was his years that he was a... Original spur posse. What the fuck? That's just straight up locomotives and covered wagons still, right? Absolutely.

Absolutely. Yeah, because my great-great-aunt, she died when she was 104, and I got to know her when I was a kid. She was related to him. Wow. Yeah. I don't think she knew him. I think she was her uncle or something, so maybe it was my great-granduncle.

but anyways she so she like remembers before cars she was like i remember the first time i saw a car damn it was like crazy shit that's 1918 yeah that's fucking nuts man yeah that had to be pretty great uh blazer yes any lineage any lineage zero zero that i know of i don't think i have anything other not famous i also just don't think my family is good about talking about

their past i think they just don't oh so you think chances are there's a ton of people probably a ton of professional athletes yeah there's probably like a pretty good chance that like or wrestlers pro pro wrestlers i feel like probably a ton of pro wrestlers so that yeah that's like literally like a close relative yeah no actually i take it back i i take it back there we go natural hard bodies

Three of my uncles made up Demolition, the triple tag team. Yeah, those were my uncles. Demolition, WWF. That's pretty famous. That's sick, dude. That is sick. When did you find out about that? Yeah, when did you find out? My mom just texted me. She heard. Oh, yeah, she's piped in. While you guys were going through your rigmarole, I was like, let me text my mom. And she said, yeah, sure enough. Demolition from WWF. Those are my uncles. Sure enough. That's cool. Sure enough. Yeah.

Yeah. Unbelievable. Sure enough. That's me. And no one in your family either, Jersey? I don't think so. I mean, I was named after an ambassador to Norway from the United States. Tight. But not like a known guy. And that was like in your family? Yeah. He was like my dad's uncle or something, great uncle or something. That's kind of tight. That's cool.

This is the way. Yeah. So there's that. That's kind of cool. But I don't think so. I think it's just me. So you guys are going to be the ones. You guys are the ones that in many generations, they'll be saying, did you know that? Hey, I doubt it. I doubt it. I'm not. No. Dude, what's going to be so dope is in 100 years, they're going to go like our great, great, great, great nephews.

are gonna go like, yeah, I guess my great-great-great-great uncle had a show. Got arrested for killing a dog on an airplane? There was these things called, like, television shows back in the day. And he had one? I don't really know, but evidently. It was a bagel. Dude, for real. And then, like, he snapped, and...

And went on that killing spree. Yeah. Apparently he like changed some law about how you can't have animals on an airplane. But then even after that, they found him underneath an airplane strangling all these dogs and putting firecrackers in their buttholes. Goodbye. Yeah. And that's Anders' life story. Yeah. That's it. And that's how he got the purple medal. Yeah.

That being said, though, he did go into war with a typewriter on his back. Purple metal. Wait, so who knew that Homeboy had a typewriter on his back? No, that's from... I don't know. How does that news get back? You know how this stuff works? Lore. No, no, no. It's because he was publishing...

while he was in the war. He was actually publishing to Collier's Magazine and writing short stories and stuff like that. You gotta meet Oliver Stone. Just because of the type of dude he is. He's really cool. Yeah, he's chill. He's a chill dog. But I bet he knows who your great-great-uncle was. Yeah. Have you sniffed around? Just because I think that he's that type of guy. Well, you know who else is also... The way that he got rolled on was because he was a part of Up By...

Rolled on for communist, you know, when they blacklisted him. He was a part of a group of actors called the Actors Studio. It's like the Actors Studio. It's Lloyd Bridges' studio.

I love this. Yeah, it's Lloyd Bridges' group that was basically up by UCB. And that's where a lot of... Isn't this the Actors Gang? Did somebody just say the Actors Gang? I said the Actors Gang. I thought that was Tim Robbins. I thought that was Tim Robbins. Adam knows. Yeah. But he's not the latest dude to be handling it? Or did he start that? Oh, I don't know if it's the same one or not. That would be kind of interesting. After Howard the Duck, he might have been like, I got this.

So I've often wondered, like, you know... That's who my uncle was. He was the guy in the Howard the Duck suit. Oh, yeah. For sure. Have you seen Howard the Duck? He was a... You know, he's a slightly shorter guy, but he was the guy who actually wore the Howard the Duck costume. That movie's a true... Yeah, really good movie. We should get Blake to be the voice of the remake. Howard... I feel like I need to re-watch Howard the Duck. It's the best Marvel movie. Because...

It gets no love. You never see anyone post about it or talk about it. You see people post and talk about older movies sometimes, but never, ever, ever do they talk about Howard the Duck. Well, there is the one freeze frame that gets a lot of love because there is a moment in the movie when you go into this bathroom where there is a female duck bathing and she has duck titties.

Yeah. Like big ass duck titties. Yes. Yeah. Why are you saying this like this is like a sneaky, like if you pause it at the right moment, it's a huge, it's like a. This is a moment where I think that we as friends know this very well, but I don't think all of the world knows that.

Howard the Duck has... It's a chick duck in a bathtub. No, dude. It's unprecedented. These are really good duck titties. Dude, Ders-level duck titties, okay? These duck titties are insane. They're bodacious. No, they're not. They just look like bolt-ons. They look fake. You're crazy. These are upper-level duck titties.

Like whoever made this duck suit was on one because the areolas. You know, they're fucking getting off on that shit. You know, they're making the duck suit and low key being like, yo, this is going to be the hottest duck. The titties are hot. My computer background. The duck titties are hot.

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Hey, wait. By the way, Todd just put it in the chat, the photo of the duck titties. I know. Buddy, your memory of how dope these duck titties are is a little off. Yeah, they're fine. Because those are a little foul. Also, I love that they took the creative license. Foul. Foul.

Yes, points! Give him points! Yes, points! I love that they took the creative license to make the left one way bigger than the right one. Yeah.

That's what they do. Yeah, they're like, let's keep it real. When I saw that as a kid, I lost my shit. I rolled my J, bro. That's a little quack. Was that the first time you rolled your J? Yeah, dude. Right there. You're looking at me. I for sure remember pausing at that moment. Dude, look at those tete's, bro. But also...

uh what is her name lee leah what's the from leah thompson leah thompson thank you like she gets in her underwear and is in the bed that's like my computer background rotates through like 50 photos and that's one of them well you're a legend mate you're a fucking legend well this is true and the music her science fucking goes and it's one of the greatest scores in movie history and it's marvel i

It's a Marvel movie. That's what people don't realize. Howard the Duck is the greatest Marvel movie ever. Oh, fucking for real? He shows up in one of the Marvel movies, right? Is that right? Yes, he is. Recently? He's in the background of, I believe, Guardians of the Galaxy. Because Howard the Duck was a Marvel product. Have you guys seen the new Guardians of the Galaxy? I've been wanting to see it. I have not gotten out to it. I have not. I haven't seen it. Not going to see it. You know what I saw? That was pretty good. What? Well...

I saw Dungeons and Dragons. I liked it. I liked it a lot. I bet it was tight. I heard it was great. Yeah. People are really, really digging it. It looked funny. People say it's really, really funny. It was fun. It's all Chris Pine, man. That guy is fucking charismatic. Dude, so hot. He's so hot, dude. He's hot and he's funny. He's got it all. He's cool. He's cool. He's great. I went to a screening of a movie at my agency like a week ago.

A week or two ago. Totally. And he was sitting right behind me. Is that really Hollywood heavy? It is. And he was sitting right behind me, Chris Pine. And first of all, so handsome, like in real life. Yes. And also- Big head. Big head.

Must weigh 150 pounds. He was so lean. Very slight. Just like lean. Really? Huh. Like no body fat. It's all muscle. Oh, okay. Okay. Okay. But it's muscle. It's muscle. I mean, I'm exaggerating. I bet he's like 180 pounds, 170 pounds. But like- That's huge. That's bigger than me. Well, yeah, Blake. You're a tiny man. You're slight, dog. Oh.

I'm looking at him right now. He was real lean. No one's talking about Chris Pratt right now. We're not talking Pratt. We're talking Pratt. We pivoted. There are a lot of hot Chris's right now. There's a lot of hot Chris's in the space right now. There's Chris Pine, Chris Pratt, and who's Captain America? Chris Evans. I think it's Chris Evans.

God, I would love to see them all on a talk show together with Chris Elliott. And of course, there's me. Eagle heart? That's my Chris. Why nobody think about that hot Chris? That's an awesome Chris. Why nobody think about...

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What is the last Marvel movie everyone here has seen? Because I have... Dude, I'm so far off. Yes, me as well. I just want to go to the movie theater, really. I went and saw Air a couple weeks ago. I know, but that's what you want to see? There's not much out there. About my father in theaters now. I got super high and watched Mouth of Madness or whatever. I'm going to go see the Super Mario Brothers movie, I think. Oh, I see.

I saw that. I saw Mario Brothers with my son. Was that good? Mario Brothers? It was all right. It was a little bit, it was chaotic. You wonder, I wonder when I bring my kid and he's so little when it's just chaos and loudness, what that does. You know what I mean? It destroys them. Movies are really hard to follow. So you didn't like Mario Brothers. Was it kind of? Oh, it's,

It was all right. It was all right. I didn't really think one way or the other on it. A thing to do with my kid. The voice acting's great. I thought everybody's voices were awesome. It's just a lot of go-karting, I found. Yeah.

Yeah. The Lego Batman movie, I liked that movie, but it was the same. The first like seven minutes of it are just fucking insane. And I'm just looking at my kid's brain melt, like leaning forward. I'm like, all right. Yeah. I don't know what is going on. Like, can we slow this shit down for the little kid's brains, man? Can we do that? What was the first super crazy movie, like kid's movie? When did it kick off? Toy Story was not super crazy.

complex. Hella simple. Toy Story 1 was not it. It's hella simple, dude. Toy Story 1, they're just like they're at the birthday party with the little fucking guy. What was the Mindy one? Inside Out? Was that the emotion one? I feel like the emotions one was like... Yeah, that one was pretty hard to follow. I feel like that one was... Was it imagery out the weehoo? No. It's just conceptually...

Like, it was hard to explain to a child, but it was a kid's movie. But it was like, how do you... It was rough. It was a lot. Well, I will say the...

to pivot topics because I don't have a child so he's like I don't want to talk about this he's like y'all are fucking crazy yeah what was your last Marvel movie well no I mean like going I went and saw air a couple weeks ago and then I told my have you ever seen a Marvel movie Adam ever

Yes. Yeah, I've seen the first Guardians of the Galaxy and I saw the first Iron Man. That's what I was saying. I think I tapped out Iron Man 1. That was so long ago, dude. Wait, Adam, that's it? I think I saw Endgame on a plane and obviously had no fucking idea what was happening. I'm like... Never saw it. I'm sorry.

And that's it? You've seen three Marvel movies. Yeah. Whoa. Okay, wow. I mean, I've seen some of the Spider-Man ones, not the newer ones, but the old ones. Did you see Black Panther? I saw Black Panther. I saw Black Panther. Yeah, I think that might have been the last one I actually watched.

Yeah. I like the first Black Panther. Yeah. I've seen them all. But I just like going to the theater. And I went and saw Air a couple of weeks ago. And I told my parents, I was like, yo, you guys got to go to the theater and see Air. And then my dad calls me. He's like, yeah, we just watched Air. And I'm like, oh, how fun was it going back to the movie theater? And he goes, oh, it was on Netflix. Amazon. And I'm like, yeah. Amazon. He told me Netflix. But yeah, Amazon. And I'm like. Our parents are the age where everything's Netflix. It does not matter. Streaming is Netflix. Yeah.

Right. Yeah, it's okay. Yeah, that's true. But also I'm like, well, that sucks that they dumped it on the streamer that quickly. Like, of course, movie theaters aren't going to come back if they're going to pull. Like, the word of mouth can't build if they put it on a streamer within a week. The word of mouth is dead. Dude, that's why there's no dough. That's why there's no dough. There's money in the box office. What the fuck are people doing? Why don't they just put it in the box office?

Like, there's money. There's a formula. I don't know if there is. I don't know if there is for a movie like Air. I think someone's crunched the numbers and based on the analytics, it ain't there. No, if you put it in for four weeks or more, it will catch fire. You just have to put it in for a month, six months, and have it nowhere else. I know, but guess what?

that same studio is like guess what we got to move that fucker out because we have another movie we're trying to it's all about opening weekend period we have new movies we need to launch you think it's all about opening weekend though yes is that the still the same way to think about it work in this industry but I mean like look at everything everywhere all at once and look at how it grew right and it made money look at every other movie and how I get that whoa yes point that's my point I kind of I'm just wondering if that's all

I'm not even rooting for this. I'm just saying that's what's happened. What happened? The whole world's gone crazy. I'm trying to put out like, you know, let's starve the streamers and fucking throw the shit back in theaters. Let's starve the streamers. That would be cool. But the point is, all these studios have other movies that they're going to launch

the next weekend and they want all the fucking theaters so that every hour on the hour you can see this new big movie. I know. They're not going to be like, hey, let's save three screens for air. They ain't going to do it. No, it's the theater companies that are like, fuck that shit. We're not going to hold it. Yeah. I know. I know. I know. Absolutely. The revival theaters are dope. That being said...

It sure was fun going to the theater. Air was a really good movie. Uh, I really enjoyed it. And, uh, it was fun being in a movie theater and I'm now I'm like itching to get back in. I didn't see the second guardians of the galaxy. So I'm like, am I going to be able to follow skip that one? One is one is way better. Hmm.

Three, I bet, is sick. Okay. Yeah. If they did starve the streamers, right? Don't you think that would increase demand in the theaters? Don't you think that then other movies might have a chance because you can't see these particular movies anywhere else for, say, six months? No. I will wait. No, because that's what they did for 15 years. People waited. Yeah. You think that

they would wait yeah like it's just like the same as rent yeah you my parents are like i'll rent it yeah i am that guy yeah blake i am that guy blake doesn't support our industry that he works at did you see everything everywhere all at once in the movie i just don't go to movie theaters i watch movies i just don't go to movie why not you don't like the experience i think that would increase demand i like to watch at my house someone's always like move your hair i like to watch at my house

It's not that I'm not supporting the art. I like to watch at the theater. I really get a kick out of it. Just being there with other people. I did until Arclight closed. Thanks, COVID. Thanks, Newsom. Right. No, I know. It is sucky that they're all going. Facts X is going to be the next movie that comes in theaters that I'm going to go see. Oh, perfect. That's going to get a billion bucks, man. That's going to get a billion. They got to save room for air. That's what's crazy is these movies are getting a B. Like, that's what they're getting. Yeah. A fucking B, dude.

That's a lot of dough. Yeah. It's fucking. I love it. Is that a bad thing? I think you can increase demand. I think they got to be smarter. I think, I think everybody got to be smarter. But Kyle, I think that there's hundreds of people in this town and I'm saying, I'm not saying that they're, they're, they're, they're making the industry better for movies. I think they know what makes money more often and that's why they're doing everything. Yeah. There's, there's people's whole job is to figure out exactly how long to keep a movie in the theater and blah, blah,

I'm just putting it out there. I hope they're listening. I'm just putting it out there. They are not. The hundred people that make the decisions absolutely are not. Well, let's try and get them to listen. Yeah. Let's keep striking. I was just going to say real quick, Adam, you got to go watch the Captain America movies. They're fucking great. Those are dope. Oh, I saw Winter Soldier. I never saw those. The first one is off the chain. The second one, Winter Soldier is off the chain. The third one, Civil Wars. All the Spider-Mans are worth a watch.

all the captain americas are worth a watch yeah okay hey look at me go i saw the spider-man scene my my bro showed me the scene where all the spider-mans are talking to each other and i was like what hoops did they jump through to make this work the spider-verse yeah yeah dude it's the multiverse based on the meme i mean from the cartoon yeah yeah

They have to. Yeah, that's crazy. Because that's the thing they put in the fucking trailer and then everyone goes, cool, I've seen that on my phone. I'm going to go see it. Perfect. Dollar dollar bills, y'all. Well, this is a very, very Hollywood episode of... I think we win.

Polly was. But you know what? We're striking. We're trying to get people aware as to what's happening. This is a Polly charged Polly movie. Hey, we're striking. Striking dude day. I guess I just, I wonder if people want to go see interesting movies anymore or if they just want to see big movies. Dude, I think they want to see interesting ones. I think you could fucking, I mean, I'm holding on to, I guess, a time. Well, I think they want to see cool movies. Like, I,

I don't know if they want to see really small movies, but I think they want to see magical movies. Right, that's a big... I'm saying that's big. Like a big spectacle. Whether it's a big spectacle or like a...

Like, Beetlejuice wasn't necessarily a huge spectacle, but it was really cool. No one is making Beetlejuice now, is what I'm saying. Ah, Beetlejuice 2. That's an interesting movie. Yeah, I think people would go see a cool movie like that. That's a very interesting movie. Beetlejuice could be big, though. So, Adam, I guess...

What I'm saying is you're changing. I'm saying there's big like spectacle and then there's interesting, which I think is what you're saying. Cool would be interesting. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, but I don't see Beetlejuice isn't a small character study movie. You know what I mean? It's still like a fun, weird, cool movie. No, it's not like hell or high water. Hell or high water is like a very character driven movie where there's just three people talking, you know?

Get her done! Or Mrs. Doubtfire. Yeah, but both of those movies would fall under the... Those are both small stories. They're not big spectacles. I think that... Beetlejuice could be. Beetlejuice was fantastically made, but it wasn't like some big elaborate like... Beetlejuice, you could spend time in the sandworm world and it could be really crazy or go like...

way crazy underworld. But the question is, back in the day, was Beetlejuice like a tentpole? Was that the question? Because I think it was. It had to have been a massive... No, I was just saying if Beetlejuice came out now, I think people would go see that in the theater if it was marketed well. And if it wasn't anywhere else.

Because you can't. There is a musical right now, Beetlejuice the Musical at Pantages, and I would love to go with you guys. I would love to go with you too. I would love to go with you guys. Let's plan a little date. So you think people want to see interesting movies? I do. Yeah, I think so. In the theater. I think they'll get in their car and go see interesting things. It would be so nice to see those. That would be so interesting. Something that's different, something that's a breath of fresh air. We're just not getting that.

Right? I know. And if it is coming out, it's very hard to find amongst the soup that is streaming. It's not getting its own like...

time and then what like you know how hard it is to find shit everybody calls everything Netflix it's like what are you talking about you don't find yes right I'm calling that soup speaking of good word of mouth is my buddy Jake Szymanski he directed the show jury duty on Amazon yeah I started watching it it's so funny I heard it's great you guys have some time check it out it Jake directed the

Mike and Dave need wedding dates. He's super funny. And the package. And the package, which we produced. And the package now streaming on Netflix. And that's streaming on Netflix. Great guy. He's a great guy. He directed Jury of Duty.

Cody Heller was the showrunner. She did a fantastic job. And it's just a really, really funny, funny show. Do you want to tell the premise? Yeah. So essentially it is a ton of hidden cameras and they say they're doing a documentary on jury duty. And,

Of the 12 jurors, 11 of them are actors, and there's one guy who thinks he's just there for jury duty. So all this crazy, and the judge is an actor, and the bailiff's an actor. Everybody's an actor. Everybody's an actor except the dude. The judge is Ike Barinholtz's dad, right? Is that right? Really?

who was who was a judge and then now he's on this oh wow that's incredible wow that's cool incredible yeah just leapfrogged uh whoops yeah so he so the i mean the show is so so funny and i mean they did such a great job of casting this guy because he's just like a great guy just like no he's just like a great dude he's like a truly what'd you say he's a doofus

Wow. I think he's a great guy. Keep watching. He's like truly. He seems like he's a nice guy from the clips I've seen. I've only watched the first episode. He's a funny doofus guy. Like, it's not a bad thing. A doofus isn't bad. I don't think he's a doofus. I don't think he's a doof. I don't know if I'd want to be called the doofus, but yeah. Well, watch the first episode. He's kind of doofy. He's like, James Marsden, that's what he was in. Oh.

Yeah, but that's James Marsden. You go like, he's in everything. And then you kind of are like, but what's the end? And you go like, oh, yeah, I didn't see that. But sure. Right. Disturbing behavior. Old school. But regardless if he's a doofus or not, he's fantastic. And he's also just like the nicest guy. And everybody fucking loves him. And so it's kind of funny that he was the guy. There's so many times that he could like.

mean things behind people's backs or like kind of shit on someone and he always takes the high road and you're like it's a real breath of fresh air that's cool and that's really cool on a thing that I don't know freebie freebie which is what it's on freebie which is the free TV that Amazon is doing you know like like a

Roku or, you know, all that free TV shit. Yeah, this is part of the soup. It's the whole world gone crazy. Is it on Amazon then? So it's but you can if you have Amazon Prime, you can just watch it on Amazon. Yeah. OK, so that's where I watched it.

it. So check it out. Do you have any take backs, apologies, or any epic slams? I take back calling the guy a doofus. You have a great guy. Sorry. It's just, I'm just a normal, nice guy. I'm straight enough for him. Uh, you know, I've never met him. I don't know him, but, uh, watch the whole show. I meant like a, like a lovable, lovable doofus. Just kind of just going with it. Nice guy though. Great guy. Keep watching. Uh,

I'd like to apologize for any of the World War II facts that might have been wrong or any of the communist facts. I'm learning about it all. I'm not a aficionado, but you know what I mean? I can't wait to see what happens when you get there. Yeah, I'd like to. I definitely said a lot of really wrong things this podcast too, like trying to remember facts that I for sure didn't remember. So I'd like to take that back. I'm trying. I think that that's the key. I think that's the key, Adam.

We're trying. Yeah, we're doing our best. Yeah, we really are. We are. So, Kyle, where is this gravestone in relation to Cannes? Close? Nearby? No, it's a 12-hour drive. You're a fucking disaster, my guy. But we're going to fly up to Paris and then go out to find it. This is with your brother, so this could be a pretty cool quest. Fly up to Paris? Yeah, because Cannes is south of France. It's on the south side.

South of the country. Got it. Okay. So you're going to be. Can is the name of the city? Can is the city. Yeah. Can I vanish? Can I vanish? Um. Uh.

Yeah. And so we're going to fly up there. We'll be in Cannes for three days and then or three days. And then we're going up to do this cool journey, me and Adam. And we're going to film some of that. That's cool, dude. That's that's a lot of fun. And how long are you going to be gone for? Just a couple days up there. So I think the whole trip is like seven days. Awesome. Perfect. Who has more in common with this?

this relative you or your brother who would he like more or respect i should say dude i don't know that's uh i don't want to put words in his dead mouth you know what i mean yeah but you but you have the whole podcast so you should just keep doing maybe maybe me maybe me but he'd probably like he'd probably like my bro i don't know my bro's solid my bro has held the fucking underdog approach his whole life i think my uncle would like a great story and i think that's

That's his thing. Story's pretty good. You're kind of an underdog. Does your brother see himself as an underdog? I think he does. I think Adam holds the same type of story on himself. And what are you, an overdog? I'm just a dog. It's a dog-eat-dog world. I'm just a dog. Yeah, not on my plane, is it? And that's another episode. Come back from last week, baby. This is Immortan. We got Rick Rolfe.

Bro, the communist Rickroll.

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