Sutton's behavior was likely due to the clickbait controversy surrounding her comments about 'white trash,' which she felt was taken out of context. She seemed annoyed by the music played at the event, which was targeted at her daughter.
Teresa was initially distant but later acknowledged Tamra, saying, 'Don't worry about it. It's no big deal.' This was after a misunderstanding about comments made on the podcast.
Tamra was excited to meet Dr. Pimple Popper, with whom she had previously interacted on Instagram. Dr. Pimple Popper even invited Tamra to assist her in her office.
Renna from Beverly Hills sat down at a table, but when Erica started to sit in the same spot, Kathy came and sat next to Renna, causing Renna to leave the table.
Tamra and Teddi felt their outfits were not bad and believed the list was clickbait. Tamra even reached out to a friend at the Daily Mail to express her frustration.
Teddi was obsessed with Shawn Mendes and Camila Cabello, enjoying their performance. She also had a good time dancing to Diplo's set.
Jason appeared unfriendly, even when Tamra jokingly asked when he would hire her for his real estate office in Orange County. He gave her a dismissive response.
Ken encouraged Tamra to clear the air with Lisa, and during their conversation, Lisa expressed that she was hurt by Tamra's comment about her not being brought back to Beverly Hills. However, Lisa seemed open to moving past the issues.
Drew's business, Dropitwithdrew.com, was criticized for promoting unrealistic weight loss claims, such as dropping 20 pounds in 20 days. Tamra and Teddi felt Drew didn't fully understand her business model.
Kenya showed vulnerability when her ex-husband didn't show up for a planned meeting. She later apologized to Ralph for yelling at him during dinner, showing accountability.
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Good morning, good morning. Welcome to Two Teas in a Pod with myself, Teddy Mellencamp and Tamara Judge from Palm Springs today. I know, what's going on? This is a whole new background. I don't see any hashtag twats. I know, I had to find a bedroom that was quiet. It's like the front part of the house is a busy street. The back part is the pool.
So it is what it is. If it gets loud, it's loud. Well, right now it sounds good. You're there for a little vacation? Yeah. So Sophia is out of school. So I took her and her friend to Palm Springs. Eddie's here for two days and he's got to go back to work. So yeah. Oh, that's nice. Just a little get out of town for a few days. And then I'll be home on Friday.
Friday, and then we're going to go to Lake Arrowhead. Well, we'll be missing each other because I'm going to be in Orange County this weekend for Slate's horse show. Oh, bummer. Rats, but at least... I've had enough of you. I saw you twice in one week. We saw each other twice in one week, and we have a lot we need to discuss. It was a very busy week. I want to say weekend, but our first night out was on a Thursday. And I'm telling you, I'm still feeling it.
I'm just tired just being busy and doing the glam and the talk, like the mental exhaustion it takes to do that. Having to, you know, hide from certain housewives or people we've mentioned on the pod. I mean, it's exhausting to go to the MTV Awards when you do this as a profession. Of course, who are behind in the press line? No other than Teresa. And I'm like, oh my gosh, are you serious? Great. Oh, great. But she was very kind and we'll get to that in a little bit.
Well, OK, so first we're just going to like answer some fan questions first. How was it? Who did you meet? I would say the the on the red carpet, we mainly just talked to press because we were so worried about getting too close to Teresa and there being a full situation on the red carpet. So we were like, OK, we just kind of kept our distance on the red carpet.
Am I right there? Yes. Yes. But then they took us into a holding room and that's like where you get touch ups or Tam went to look over her lines or whatever it was. And Bethany was in there. And of course, Tam goes right on over and does this big old hello. And then like kind of motions to me. And I'm like, I know what I just said on the pod. I can't, I can't, I'm not, I didn't say it. You said, I,
know but I can't go over and give somebody a big old hug that like you know I what I said isn't terrible I mean she's probably said way worse about me but I'm just not it's not my style so I just like waved from afar and then like said like to her daughter you look beautiful you look so grown up she was very sweet um I met her daughter I met her boyfriend um everybody was really nice
And I think that, you know, she was the most, you know, we have to understand what I talked about on the podcast was before she did her MTV award speech. But she was actually very appreciative to Bravo and the Housewives for the very first time. I never heard her speak like that. So that's also why I said what I said, because this has never been her narrative before. So it was nice to hear her actually thank the platform that gave her all that she has now.
Yeah. So who did you meet that you were excited about? Because I have one that I'm just... You go first. Dr. Pimple Popper. Oh. You know, I'm obsessed with that. I send my friends disgusting zit popping videos constantly. They're always like, you make me throw up. Stop. So her and I have talked on Instagram before. And yeah, guess what?
She wants me to come into her office and assist her with some of her pimple popping. I absolutely cannot. You should have seen this love fest that they had taking selfies. They took like a pity selfie with me, even though I blatantly said to her, I've asked you, Tam, multiple times to stop sending me
pimple popping or hair removal like i i do not want to see an ingrown hair i i i do i don't i want to see a big juicy i don't like i don't like the big sis i like when somebody has like multiple blackheads and they come out with big clear honestly i'm so sorry if you're on your morning commute and you're listening to this i apologize in advance i'm not the only one
She's got a ton of followers. People love that. People love it. I just don't need you to send it to me. But she was very lovely. She was very nice. I think then we could talk about, we'll talk about who we met on our way out later. But we got to kind of talk about our seating chart. So we walk in and of course the table next to us is Teresa, Louie, Joe, Melissa,
And then I don't know. Oh, Kristen Cavallari and whoever it was. Yeah, I was excited to meet her too. Yeah. And she looked beautiful. And she's so funny. And it's such good TV. We love chatting with her and talking about our mutual friend, Justin. And then our table, which was me, you, Dorinda, Dorinda's niece, Taylor Armstrong and her husband. Then the table next to that was.
Garcelle, her two sons. Wait, is her name Cherie? Cherie. I don't know if that's her husband or her boyfriend because she's not on the show yet, but very nice man. Her boys were there? Her boys were there. And then coming in later was Sutton and her daughter. She wasn't very friendly to me. Is that because of you? Yeah, she wasn't very friendly to me either. I mean, she's friendly to me on social media, but I just felt like she just...
I think my guess is she's annoyed about the... Because there was all the clickbait about her calling...
Erica and I sang "White Trash" where they didn't air it and they said to us, she said to us while we were filming, I already told you guys this, but like, I didn't come from those white trash towns, but then they take it out of context and make it seem like it is what it is. But then she just was kind of making,
funny faces about the music being played at the MTV Awards because of her daughter. And I'm like, you know what you're coming to. Of course, they're going to play these music. And like when you go to the MTV Awards, also people like the cameramen come around and they want you to stand up and dance and be excited. And we did that. We did it the whole time. But like she was just kind of making these faces. But know who I was dancing and having a nice time with. Yes.
Garcelle. She was so sweet to me. She was so sweet, so kind. Asked me like even personal questions like, how's your daughter? And, you know, just she was just so sweet. So down to earth and Crystal as well. Yeah. I mean, I think they were really fun. We we talked to Crystal a little bit about what we had talked about on the pod. And I think that we are going to find out more on this.
this week's episode of Beverly Hills on what happened last week. So last week, I tried to get it out of crystal.
I know, but I kind of did, but either way, I didn't try that hard, I guess. But, um, Tam also has a history of going up to people that have not listened to the podcast and apologizing for things that we've done. And I'm like, can you, I've done, I only did it once. Well, the Teresa thing, that's a whole nother thing. Cause I was wrongfully accused by the press, but
Okay, you got to tell the Teresa thing because I don't even want to bring up the other one, but tell the Teresa story what happened with Louie. Oh, so we were, you know, next to each other for a good hour.
through the press line, got sat next to each other. She didn't acknowledge me. I kept looking over like, oh shit, it's coming any minute. And I was kind of by myself for a second and Louie came up and he's like, Tamara, hi, it's so nice to meet you. So sweet. He asked me about Eddie. He asked me about Ryan. He asked me about my gym. Like he knew, like obviously he watches the show. So he was talking and I said, um,
you do know Teresa's kind of mad at me right now. And I just, you know, I'd love to explain that. That's not what I said. You know, I wasn't saying that anything bad about you. He's like, it's all good. It's all good. Don't worry about it. It's all good. It was a misunderstanding. I'm like, okay. And then Teresa leaned over and I'm like, hi. She's like, hi, don't worry about it. It's no big deal. And that was it.
Well, I was on Melissa Gorga's podcast yesterday and she was like, I knew because she said that she had talked to you about it as well. And she was like, I knew in that setting, one million percent, Teresa would be cool with it. Like she's not going to cause a, you know, not going to flip my table. No, not going to flip your table. But I was glad that we that was all squashed. We took pictures like everything was fine. Then.
then I don't know if you noticed this part, but this was a little interesting. So
The Beverly Hills girls, the cast, the current cast was a little split up. Like not all of them sat down prior to presenting. Some of them I didn't even see. I didn't see Renna. I didn't see Erica. I only saw them on stage, but I didn't see them come in. They weren't sitting next to us. They must've been in a totally different area. No, they weren't. So were they sitting down? No, I'm trying to tell you what happened. So they arrived right when presenting started.
when they're like right before they had to present. So they came later and did the right. So they stage each people at like different time to arrive the red carpet, because if we all arrived at the same time, the camera people wouldn't have enough time. Yeah. So they came. That was one of the first ones presented. So they came later. However,
So at the table, right after they present, there was, it was Crystal and Rob were sitting there and then some seat fillers because when, you know, they want it to always look full. So Renna sits down at that table. She's told by her PR person or whomever it is, sit there. I see Erica start to walk to the same spot. And then Kathy came and sat down next to Renna and then Renna got up and left.
So can I just tell you that whole drama? I'm so sick of seeing it on social media. Well, I'm so sick of it.
It's just too much. Leave it off social media. Well, I think ultimately what I'm seeing now, I mean, okay, but we have to still talk through the fact that Renna gets up, leaves the table, then Kathy walks over to Paris' table where Bethany is, and then proceeds to use a hand fan the entire... I saw that. I'm surprised she didn't have somebody there fanning her. I mean, it was unbelievable. That assistant that's exposing all those...
emails or texts or whatever they are why wasn't he there fanning her well by the way just kidding it's gone now back and forth so with this now I've come to the because now I've been on all the different trying to figure out this guy the one that said all of these things first he said you know rhymes is Milton who hired me then he's trying to come forward and say it was actually Rena
And I truly believe neither of these women know this person at all. I know. That's what I'm saying. It's so diluted. It's so stupid. This guy's clearly trying to get attention. Like, I don't even want to read about it. I don't want to hear about it anymore. It's all over. Every day. Instagram. It's like, just stop. Stop.
because this guy is doing everything he can but he didn't put enough attention but he just stopped giving them attention i know you say that but this is what happens ultimately on social media you you believe one side then the other side's leaked and this side's like but now that beverly hills girls have like bad stuff like that like it gets nasty oh and it doesn't get fans and stuff it's like no it's bad like that that's
I mean, it has nothing to do with the show. Yeah. And now you have this guy that's potentially just some, I don't know, what is he? A fan trying to get attention. And now it's caused a fight between two women. And it's just like, I mean, I tried to figure out who he is because we only have one mutual friend in common on Instagram. And I reached out to the one mutual friend and she was like, I don't even know why I follow this person. I really don't know who he is.
Um, she's like, I think he went and this girl that I reached out to was like one of my babysitter I've used a couple of times. She's like, I don't know. I think you went to high school with a friend of mine and then we follow each other years ago. Oh my God. You're like a detective. But anyways, that's that.
What else happened there? Oh, can we please talk about me presenting, not presenting, but announcing the new clip? I finally watch it because I don't watch myself. I was so nervous standing up there. You know how I was going into it?
I look like, like a deer in the headlights. The other girls are like looking at each other talking. I'm staring at the teleprompter going, I'm going to miss my line. I'm going to miss my line. I just know it. So I was like, it wasn't until the end that I was like, okay, just relax. I've never done that before. But you know what? You did a nice job. I couldn't see him. No, I didn't. You had your back face to me. So all I could see was your butt.
um so my cellulite oh my we'll get to that whole thing in the next the next post okay so that was during the show then I have to say girls trip that that trailer looked hilarious the brandy saying the cat meme I know it was so good it's so funny because after filming it like even brandy and I have talked and it's like wow I didn't think it was that explosive like there were definitely some moments and
But it was just bizarre. Like we're both going, I don't even remember that. Well, you know how it is when you film for eight straight days and like hardly any sleep. You're like, oh, I didn't know that happened. Oh, I forgot that happened. Oh, I forgot how dinner about juice. But it was a good clip. It was a good clip. So then what happens is like everybody's leaving at different times. You're trying to figure out your plans. And then Tam says,
We walk out with Chris Shell and G Flip. So we meet that hot new couple. They were super nice, friendly. I think we took a pic.
They were like, so we liked them. They're, they're good. Then Tam meets Lindsay Hubbard from summer house. I don't know what you guys are talking about. I read her on the part. I've, I've talked to her on Instagram and I'm, I met her on the red carpet. We have some mutual friends and they both like Julia's from New York and Dave Quinn. They're like, Oh my God, you guys will be best friends. You're so alike. And I'm like, really? And so it was like,
We were waiting to meet each other. And then we finally met each other. And I love her. She's so sweet. So fun. So cute. So fun. She was with the boyfriend. And then Craig was there with Paige, his girlfriend. They were super friendly. Everyone's just kind of like eating, like having pizza, drinks, whatever. Of course, then I see...
Can't even help myself, you guys. Then I see that producer, Adam DiBello, as we're about to leave. And of course, I have to ask him about what Christine Quinn said on Watch What Happens Live. And it's just like, Teddy, why can you not just be a regular person and being and not carry useless information? Did you ever want to be like a detective or?
I mean, or anything like that. But like he was actually really charming and funny. And, you know, we laughed, whatever. Luckily, we got our car pretty quickly. But before we left, all the cast of Vanderpump Rules that was there asked us to go to Tom Tom. I'm like, I can't I don't I don't think that I can go to Tom Tom. This feels weird. What does Tam say? Let's go. Let's go to Tom Tom. Let's go.
Get in the car. We go to Tom Tom and guess who's there. Guess who's there. Ken and Lisa. Ken and Lisa. And Ken is always so, he's always been so kind to me. And so he can come up and talk to me and ask me how Eddie was and all that. And then did you ask him?
If you can go talk to Lisa or did you just walk up? I didn't say if I can go talk to Lisa. Should I? No, I said, because remember, I've got like Tom and everybody being like, come please, like blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, you know what? I really don't feel like, I don't feel comfortable. I haven't talked to her in years. The last time that we had any conversation was not good. And so I, out of respect, I walked up to Ken and just said,
hey, I'm here with this group of people. Do you think I should go up and have a conversation with Lisa? Which would not be an apology on my part or anything like that. I'm like, but do you think I should try to clear the air? And he said, yeah, I think you should.
And then we probably talked for like 20 minutes or so. It was like 40 minutes. Okay. I was sitting with Lindsay and her, and her group and you were over there and I'm literally taking pictures like behind my shoulder of you guys. And there's some that look like are a little bit heated. You're all.
Like, yeah, I'm like, oh, shit, what's going down? Ultimately, we just went through it. Like all the things that you didn't even tell me what was said. I don't even know. So I mean, it was mainly like all the things we probably would have said to each other at the reunion had happened.
We shown up. Yeah. Had we had the reunion and mainly she's kind of over all that. Like, she's like, I get it. You know, neither of the guys that involved you in the situation with me even work for me anymore. Like all of that, like is water on the bridge. The one time healed time healed seem to, I don't know healed, but healed ish. But she said the one thing that I really didn't like that you said was.
that I would never be brought back, that you don't think that I would ever be brought back on Beverly Hills. That's just not opinion. Not that. And I go, well, by the way, I say the same thing about myself. Like, I just it wasn't me being disrespectful. I wouldn't think that she would want to go back. She's got so many other things going on. I don't know that she wants to go back or she doesn't want to go back. I just think that hurt her ultimately hurt her ego that I said that.
But we did have a nice conversation. We were respectful to one another. So will you guys be going to lunch soon? No, but I did ask her if she wanted to come on the pod. And she was like, why would I do that? And I was like, I don't know. I think it'd be funny. And so that's where we left it. Oh, so should I ask her? She'll come on. So I did have a conversation with her about Housewives. So...
She was so funny. She was like, Tamara, why are you not on the Housewives anymore? It's total crap now. And I'm like, got fired. I don't know what to tell you. You need to go back. And I said, well, you know, you never know. And I asked her, I said, do you think that I should? Yes, you should. It's a great platform. You should go back. And I'm like, okay, well, I'm waiting for that phone call. Well, we'll be waiting for that call for you, Tam. I'll be waiting for that call for years. Okay.
I'll be like 60. Are you going to call me? I'm waiting for that call. Hello. My phone hasn't been ringing. Did you call by? I'm sorry. Did I have a missed call from you? Okay. Can we please talk about the worst dress list of Daily Mail?
Yeah. Okay. Cause we all made it. We all made it. We all made it. So, I mean, it was me. It was the top three, me, um, you, Erica, you, Erica and Lisa Renna, which I didn't think any of our outfits were horrible. So I reached out to my friend that works at the daily mail and I said, what is this shit? Cause he was sending me messages going, Oh my God, you've never looked so good. What an outfit. I go, am I just, I mean, I'm, I'm no fashion icon, but I liked it. And he goes,
they love screwing with housewives. So he basically said like, they love screwing with house. It was like clickbait. You know what I mean? Like when they have somebody up there and they're going to click on it and I'm just, I'm, I'm sticking with that. Well, I don't want you to worry because right below, um, I, I think there was one more after you than me. So like, I still made the list, but then I started getting a
messages about, because you know, when you're on the red carpet and they say, look back, like, yeah, look back, look back. So you're walking away and then you look back messages about, I can't believe that you would show a picture of your cellulite. And I can't believe that you would wear a dress. So people are unbelievable. They really are in this day and age. Like really, you're going to comment on somebody's cellulite. We all have it.
I mean, I was ready. Like I'm super insecure because, you know, I'm 54 years old. Like I have a weight balance. Like if I'm too thin, the skin of my legs sag. If I gain a few pounds, then I get a belly. It's like, what's better than other? I'm like, I'm just going to stick to the saggy skin. Like what can I do? It is what it is. I am at a certain age. I'm not going to go and have knee tucks. Yeah. I mean, but I think ultimately, like I had the choice. I was like, I can either...
you know, post that glossy photo that everybody's going to post, you know, that's on any kind of platform, or I can post the one that people are messaging me about and saying this, because we need to have this conversation and like cellulite is natural. And yes,
I mean, the amount of people that responded, like Caitlin Bristow, Tracy Bregman, Courtney Lopez, Whitney Wildrose, Stephanie Hallman, Leanne Locken, Justin Sylvester, Carson Kressley, Sheena, Cynthia Bailey, Nicole Martin, you. I mean, so many- They all commented on your Instagram post? Yeah, all posted. And I think the truth is,
why is it that you, if you, if you show too much, you're, you know, put it away. If you don't show enough, you're hiding things. Yeah. And I don't know, I just feel like we all have cellulite. I work out, you work out, I eat healthy. It's just, you have it. There's nothing you can do about it. Anybody that says they don't, you know, I'm sure they're
young girls, supermodels, whatever, don't majority of women do. And there's, it is what it is. Get over it. You know what the thing is, is like this day and age, I cannot believe that Daily Mail is basically saying you're worse. Like why bring down women? Like, are we still doing that? I thought we were over that Daily Mail. Well, I, I don't, I think the other thing is, you know, when, even though there was, you
about people like saying, thank you for sharing. There was also people saying to me,
Why would you, you're a mother. Why would you even wear a dress like that? Oh my God. And you click on their picture and it's a picture of a cat, right? I don't even, but this is something else that I think we need to talk about. I'm not taking my kids to their piano recital in this outfit. I'm going to the MTV awards. And by the way, you're only 40. And I want to go and have fun. You're only 40. Even if I was 75 and I want to wear something for fun. Right.
Well, evidently to the trolls, you just have to lay down and die once you get a certain age because you can't put makeup on. You can't look good. You can't wear a short dress. You can't wear a body hugging dress. You can't do anything. It's just, you know what? But.
But you know what? I did like the comment where it said it looked like I was auditioning for Dancing with the Stars. I was like, maybe I'm trying to manifest it. OK, it is a Dancing with the Stars outfit, but it is actually I saw it on Revolve. I'm like, I almost bought it. And I've seen another girl, Kelly, just posted some birthday party and one of the girls there was wearing. So it's a very hot dress right now. And I just loaned it to someone. She picked it up 20 minutes ago. Yeah. Something she's going to tonight. Yeah. So we're going to take a little break. Then we'll come back. We'll do a little.
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All right. So we're back. We finally, you know, we made it through MTV awards and we have Wango Tango and there's a couple of things I need to touch base on. Okay. So I left Wango Tango pretty quickly. I went with my girlfriend, Heather. Um, we went and presented and you can go ahead and tell your story.
Five seconds of summer. Go ahead. Do it. You guys do it. So we know, you know, Wango Tango is from I heart who is our boss of this podcast. We get, we're told we're presenting a band. So Tam doesn't say anything about it in true Tam form. She doesn't even like look at the emails or the texts that we send until we're like, there's 7,000 text messages. And I'm like, I have to go back and scroll for an hour because you guys, I
So I didn't know who we were presenting. So then right. We're up there. We're on the stage. We're, we're got our script. I'm like, all right. So we're presenting five seconds a summer. And she looks at me with not even a smile, not a joke. She goes, I'm so confused. I thought we were presenting a band. I was like,
Tam, we are presenting a band. I thought it was like, woohoo, five seconds of summer. Like, I thought that was just like, oh, we're kicking off summer. Like, here. Okay. Sorry. Okay. So Tam. Again, I'm old. Tam was disaster zone. Tam really came to present. Name one song they sing.
I don't know, but I didn't know when they were singing them, but I couldn't name any of the songs that anybody sings. I'm not that type of person. I asked my daughter. I'm like, do you know Five Seconds of Summer? Oh, she actually Googled it and looked to see us presenting before. By the time I got home, she already had it. And she goes, oh, you presented Five Seconds of Summer. I'm like, oh, I don't know. I didn't know who they were. I thought it was just me kicking off summer. Well, know who I was obsessed with?
Shawn Mendes. Yes. And Camila Cabello. I realized that you like ate your sliders and like had a half a glass of champs and you were out of there, but I was celebrating my friend Kelly's birthday and we were absolutely obsessed. Like I had to tell Edwin, I think I'm in love with Shawn Mendes. Yeah. I follow him on Instagram. I watch a documentary or something. It was very interesting. I think I left too soon.
Because it was still, it was like weird. I'm in a cocktail dress. My girl was in a cocktail dress. We're there. It's outside. It's broad daylight. And I'm like, I kind of feel like we don't fit in. Then we went to the suite, saw the burgers, ate a couple of burgers. I didn't even have a glass of champagne. I had two bottles of water. I tried to drink and I'm like, mm-mm.
Don't feel like drinking tonight. So we were going to go out to dinner and we thought, well, let's just go to dinner as we're walking out. Diplo was playing and my girlfriend's huge in that. So we go running down the aisle, dancing, doing all that. And then we're like, okay, let's get in our car and go. Diplo was so good. Diplo was so good. Oh, I also sat down next to Jonathan Bennett, who was also on Celebrity Big Brother. And we had a good laugh about how we both got kicked out first.
And we're like, listen, and we were, we were even at a shocking turn of events. We were even liked on that show. And then we still got kicked off first. And so that was good. Um, other things know who else I saw Jason Oppenheim from selling sunset. He was rude to me at MT. It's weird. Cause I saw him. I don't know. I don't know if it's, um, I don't know who's who there's two of them, but only one was there, right? The brothers.
well they both there one i didn't see the one at mtv awards i only saw one i did and i was like saying i'm like hi and he was just like who are you you know i was talking to heather and tarik and um chrishell and all that and he was just not very nice i thought okay whatever and then um you know because i'm a real estate license so i jokingly said like when are you gonna hire me like that because they opened up an office in orange county and he just looked at me like like shut up
And I'm like, okay. And then I saw him in the suite at Wango Tango and still like just given side eye. I'm like, can you just smile? You got a big successful show. Like for me, it wasn't even, I mean, I didn't even see any of that, but I was seeing the, like, we have like our producers on this show who also, they like help us when we're at these events. So we don't get like, we're just hot messes. So they just take care of us. And I saw the way that he was talking to those girls and,
Oh, really? And I was like, listen, this is where I draw the line. Like, it was like, I almost, I had to take a breath and almost say something to him. Like, what was he saying? It was just more like treating. It was like, like they were help, like staff, staff, you know, like it was icky. And I was like, that's disappointing because I actually really like him on the show.
The one that was dating Chris shell is his name Brett I think that's bread. I don't know there's two of Jason's the one that was dating Chris shell. Okay, okay so Jason so Jason I think is the one that was at Wingo tango right, they were both at MTV and then just one brother was at Wingo tango. I never saw either of them and MTV but okay.
Now we got to get into housewife headlines and then we're going to recap Atlanta. Okay. Tom Gerardi, Gerardi, Gerardi, Gerardi, Gerardi, um, to pay 2.3 million in restitution to his former clients. I really hate talking about lawsuits cause it just gets so weird, but, um, I don't think that's any shock and they, I just read that he was disbarred. Yeah. It's hard to keep track of the lawsuits. Um, yeah, I mean, it is what it is. I mean,
I mean, I think everything just getting out of control and then you read in the press and then you see something different on the show. We I mean, we really have no idea. And then Luann and Sonia Morgan land a simple lifestyle reality show, which is crazy because Vicky and I were in talks with a producer to do that after we both were let go from Housewives. So I'm like, oh, I texted to Vicky. I got no response.
Well, also you FaceTimed Vicky. No, I didn't FaceTime Vicky. Somebody, let's talk about that. Oh, Claire Crawley. Claire Crawley was with another. Yeah, which is super sweet and pretty. Was with another girl.
And she came up to him. She's like, oh, my God. And I think she was a little she'd been drinking a little bit. So she was like, oh, my God, I'm best friends with Vicky. And I'm like, really? Because I've never met you before. And she said that she lived in Del Mar and she's and then she started going, Vicky's not happy with you.
I said, why? You didn't go to her birthday party. I go, I know Eddie's birthday. I couldn't go to Mexico. I can't just take up, take off and go to Mexico. I have a daughter in school that doesn't drive. I have two businesses. I have a podcast. I can't just take off and run to Mexico. Sorry. So she had a party in Orange County and it just so happened that we had a dinner party for Eddie for his birthday that night. So I couldn't go. I'm like, we've already talked about it, but this girl was trying to bring it up. So then she gets Vicky on the phone.
FaceTime. And I'm like, oh, you can't hear a thing. And then pans to me. And look who else is here. Oh, you did that? Oh my God, I did that. Okay, well, either way. But I literally text over the article where Louie
Luann and Sonia have signed a deal to star in their own show. Page six has learned, according to sources close to production, it's a simple lifestyle reality show in which the glamorous pals will live together in a middle American town and mingle with regular folks. Are they not regular folks? Their words. Much like Paris Hilton and Nicole Richie did.
So I haven't heard. I wonder if it's the same production company that reached out to you originally. Probably not. The one that reached out to us was an old producer on Housewives. But yeah.
I don't even know if this is true or not true. There's no network. But it would make sense if you go back and listen to the Luann podcast. She was being... Hinting, yeah. Hinting at something that didn't seem like legacy. But I don't know why they would do that.
only because that's going to hinder their chances of going back to legacy. Cause who knows when legacy is happening? I mean, let's be honest. We have no idea. There's been, it's, I don't think anyone's gotten their offer letters. I, I, I have no idea, but, um, other than that, I mean, we, we're going to run out of time and we haven't even gotten to recaps of the show yet, but, um,
Jersey, the last thing we can discuss here on Housewife Headlines, Real Housewives of New Jersey, Teresa reacted to Ramona Singer leaking wedding details. Teresa handled this drama like a piece of wedding cake, says E! News. What else can you do when your friend accidentally posts private wedding details online? The Real Housewives of New Jersey star revealed how she reacted. Eventually, we're sure people are going to find out about it anyway, she exclusively told E! News.
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Okay, here we are back talking about Atlanta. I'm so glad it was back on this week. I know. How did you feel about the episode? I thought it was good. It was good. I was sad. I was mad. I was like, oh, so many emotions on this episode. Okay, so we first thing we need to report is
is that we checked and dropitwithdrew.com is a functioning website. You can't go onto it. Yeah, I've gone onto it before because being in the fitness industry, like you, you go like, what is this about? Which it's very confusing to me. The one thing I did not care for is don't tell somebody you can drop 20 pounds in 20 days or something like that. Like that's not even healthy. This was the part that was hard for me. And I never want to
I don't know, shade somebody's business or anything like that. I don't think she's very clear about what her business is when she's talking about it to the group. And then when you see her get on with her business partners and then it,
Like if I were to ask you about Venus CBD, right. Ask me about all in ISIS. We have answers. Yeah. I suspect, I suspect it's a business that somebody else put together. They used her face.
you know, and she doesn't really know what's going on. It's more of a, maybe it's more of a collab. Yeah. That's what I think too. I think if, um, Sonia did a fitness, you know, website and videos and whatever, I don't even know what's on drop. It was true. She said there was meal plans, um,
Fitness camps, things like that. But if Sonia did, I'd be like, yeah, that makes sense. Her and her husband are in amazing shape. Well, not really, you know, but I don't think you have to be in amazing shape to help people change their life. You should work out. Well, if you're talking about, I agree that you should work out, but I don't think that it means that you have to be a certain body type. However, you need to know what you're talking about. Yeah. And I agree. We have trainers, all shapes, sizes fit perfectly.
Not fit, whatever. Like I think it ultimately, she just didn't really know. It's ultimately how educated you are and what you're talking about and how passionate you are about that position. But a lot of the times, I'm not saying that this is what Drew did, but a lot of the times when people become on house, come on housewives, they develop a business, but it's not really fully. Right. But you, it's like a wines by wives. I learned early on when some guy from New York
said, Hey, I want to do this thing. And Vicki and I were like, yeah, sure. That's, that sounds great. I didn't have any business at the time. I don't think I, or maybe I just started the gym at the time. And I'm like, um, okay, this doesn't really make sense for my brand, but okay, let's try it. It didn't work. It failed. I didn't know anything about the business. I don't know anything about wine. Like my advice has always been to housewives. Like if you're going to do something, do something that makes sense to you and your brand.
i mean it's like me going i'm gonna start like you know the chef business or this you know designer clothes i yeah i don't you know stay in your lane and it is stay in your lane the worst dress line i'll just stay in hand modeling yeah well
I can't even Kyle and I had conversations about our ugly hands. Oh my gosh. I can't all of us with our hands. Okay. So drew the show starts with drew apologizing to Sharae for getting upset with her about what Anthony told her and for putting her hands on Sharae's face. Drew understands that Anthony is the messy one. Finally. There's nothing worse than an assistant that wants to be on TV.
I am loving Sheree. I mean, I can't even figure out who's my favorite. I know who my least favorite is. Who's your least favorite? Drew.
Yeah, but I think they need. I mean, and I still like her, but I just. Yeah, I mean, least favorite in the fact of like some of her storylines feel a little forced. Yeah, but I mean, at least she's like showing up and going for it. And I did appreciate when all of the women started jumping on Sheree and saying, well, where is he? Where is he? Like at the group dinner, Drew like stepped up and said, like, let her be.
Yeah. And when I say least like, she's the least one I'm invested in. I like her. I think she's great TV. But I am just...
Marlo. Oh my gosh. Love her. Sheree. Okay. So then Kenya, they're just, all of them are so good. And they're talking, they're talking about real things, even when they're at dinner and with their vibrating panties on. Hold on. Also, would you ever do that? I was going to ask you that. I thought it was kind of weird with couples and,
Like it was kind of felt kind of a little swinger ish to me. And I was kind of with Kenya on that. Like if it was us girls going out, just joking and I'd be like, like that. I mean, it'd be a good laugh for about 20 minutes. And then it's like, take those suckers off. Well, I think the problem is it took away from,
The play, which I think is the ultimate thing we should have been like, I didn't even know what the play was about at this point because I'm so I'm concentrating on these vibrating panties. But how smart is Candy? That's her business. So she incorporated that. That is iconic housewife move.
Put in your vibrating panties. Don't say anything about your business. And then talk about your play that you just produced. Yeah, I mean, it really was all the things. But even when Kenya was at dinner and her ex-husband is calling and there's this stuff going on between her daughter, I think the way that Kenya openly shared about that is so...
Yep. And exactly what she's going through. So I appreciate it. I related to so many things that she was saying, like just being gaslit and trying to make, you know, the other one trying to make you feel bad or make you feel like a bad parent. Like I went through that. It wasn't fun. Yeah. Then essentially,
Marlo tells Candy that her sex stuff is getting out of hand. Candy snaps back that Marlo should start getting fucked. Marlo's funny that when people kind of come at Marlo, she just kind of so far,
She's just kind of laughs it off. She brushes it off. She brushes it off. She's funny. She's got a great personality. She really does. And her confessionals are good. And she looks like she totally like metamorphosis in each confessional candy too, with that blue outfit she had on. Yeah. I just can't with Sharae's beehive. Oh, that was, that's a hard look. That's a hard look. That was, that's a hard one. Kyle had something similar to that once.
Oh, I think she did. But that was I think that was not as drastic. No, that was during the Halloween days when she had bangs. Bangs are hard for anyone. I'm going to just put it out there. If you're considering bangs, it's really my daughter was actually asking me about bangs. I'm like, listen, it's very few people they work out. My daughter had those really short, like rockabilly bangs where I don't even know anymore. They're really short. And I'm like, are we over this yet?
Yeah. Then we get into them all going to the Broadway show, which is like, obviously they couldn't film in there. So you don't see anything. I cracked up about Marlo. I want to see a little bit of it. Marlo riding her bike there. That, okay. That was the best thing ever. She's like, can you watch my bike or whatever she said? Can I park my bike here? I'm like, oh my God, she did not just do that. She's so good. She knows how to steal a scene. She stole that scene. Then, um,
Son, Kenya apologizes to Ralph for if she offended him and yelled at him at dinner. He handled it fine. Kenya's so good like that. She takes accountability. She knows when she did something wrong. She's kind of the voice of reason. And I don't feel like that was the Kenya years ago. But also in that same token, I'm glad she apologized. But also I agreed with her in the moment when she did it. Yeah, she's not wrong. I felt like you were right.
Then Sonia tells Drew that she can't be the best friend to her when she doesn't agree with Drew's actions, like putting her hands in Cherie's face. Drew gets upset by that and then brings this up in front of the ladies. But to be honest, that wasn't clear to me. I'm reading that off our recap. That wasn't clear to me in that group conversation what Sonia was even talking about.
Like she was beating around the bush. I could, I did understand it. I felt like it was a situation where she was trying to make drama out of nothing. Because then she said, then she starts bringing up Drew's business and Drew saying she had a hernia, mommy makeover, but people do. Okay. Can we just talk about that? Yes. Remind me what she said. Cause I remember shaking my head saying, what are you freaking talking about? Oh, she said she had a lipo because she had a hernia. That doesn't make any sense at all.
I mean, she might have gotten a hernia from having lipo. That would make sense if they burst her stomach wall. But I had a hernia that burst. I didn't get lipo. I had to have emergency surgery and in the hospital for five days. So she was trying to make excuses to why she had a tummy tuck. Just say, I had a tummy tuck. But just say, here's the thing. I have blatantly said I had a neck lift. And you know what? I am very active. I eat a lot.
I have a business that helps people change their life. And for me, I can openly say, listen, this is something that I struggled with my, you know, yes. As long as I can remember that I had loose skin on my neck, especially from losing weight. And it made me feel insecure. And I'm going to be straightforward with the people that know me. I feel like I know me because I'm telling you this information as opposed to hiding. More people would be like that. Like when I had my facelift, I came right out and said it. I didn't care. I wasn't ashamed. I did it. I don't know.
whatever, we had a girl on the cast one year that was talking about how she needed a nose job. She needed a nose job. So finally she got a nose job. And then she said she got a nose job because she had sinus issues. I'm like, it's like, come on. And you know, so maybe it would have come off better with Drew. If Drew said, listen, I did do a mommy makeover.
But in order for a mommy makeover to even work or stay working, you have to still stay consistent with, you know, a healthy diet and exercise and all that stuff said tweak. It doesn't make you fit. It doesn't make you healthy. You know, and so ultimately, if how many kids does she have?
i think she has two um but i think regardless it's not our our place to judge if she got one or not but it just didn't make sense in regards to the answer she she could still do it she could have done those things and still have this business but the way she explained it was not good yeah she didn't do herself any favors
But Sonia didn't really explain or ever even really get to the point of... I didn't quite understand that. And that's where, like, her interview... Like, her interview questions and things like that when she was talking are so good. I thought she was so good. But this...
I think drew won that one because even she did drew goes, you were just in my room 20 minutes ago using my glam team didn't say anything. Yeah, but she did you see that glam team she had like six or seven people in that room. So I could see why she wouldn't bring it up then but also if you're a housewife you bring it up on camera. No, it was on camera because you saw. Oh, that's right. That's right. People. There was so many people in there. No, no.
that if i wanted to have an exclusive not when you're using her glam team you can't throw you can't like jab her when she's using it's worse to wait 20 minutes later and bring up the whole thing in front of the entire cast but she could have had that conversation privately okay speaking on camera yeah in portia ray okay now we have to get oh my god drives all the way to philly first of all he flakes unseen the group
Then she decides to go to Philly. And she looked so beautiful. So beautiful. So sweet. When she started crying, get teary eyed. I almost started crying. I felt bad. They've been together for a while, right? They've been together for a while, but now he's on. So he's on house arrest. And.
So he could only go a hundred miles. Then of course the editors are geniuses. They show it's like 94.7 miles. So he could have made it to the thing that time before, but either way, she drives to Philly. And this is the part that I got upset about. She's there a long ass time, which, you know, I have a history of being, you know, I know. I remember that, you know, so it's been, and that wasn't by somebody that I was madly in love with trying to show my, our, you know,
relationship on camera, but he obviously knew he was not going to show up and do this. And to let her drive that extra way, sit there. She was obviously freezing. She's like waiting to order. She's calling him. She's texting him. He's not responding. And at the point it took that the fricking producer had to come over and tell her I was done for.
I know. I mean, it was just so bad. They're not together now, right? I don't know. This is the thing for me. Like, how together were they if he's been in jail for all these years and then now he's on house arrest and they live in different states? We don't know how often they see one another when she's not filming. We really don't. So this could have been a situation where, like, just his... What they kind of made it seem like was the parole officer said that doing this show is...
not right essentially well i think what it is is that they the parole officer said you can't film it's not gonna be a good look for you right so that's why yeah but he could have said that to her prior to her showing up and waiting what what i love the most is when kenya came up to what called her i know it was like a real friend type conversation i felt in love with kenya at that moment like i've always liked her but i'm like she is a true friend what can i do
Like, don't cry. Want me to get you a plane ticket? You want a plane? What do you need? Yeah. And it just, it really, it really pissed me off that he did that to her. I hope that we get more information on that. But I mean, I thought it was a really good episode. We, we saw all the things, um,
And everybody was good. Everybody was involved. The only person I felt a little bit was like, Sonia, I felt like, come on, let's get in here a little bit. She's new. I give her room. I give her slack. Like you, you try to get into the mess, but if you're not fully prepared, was it candy or somebody said, maybe you should have wrote down what you were going to say. Yeah. I mean, that's exactly what it sounded like. Okay. We got to get into fan thoughts. Okay. I,
I felt bad for Sheree. That was embarrassing and cringy. To me, it wasn't cringy. To me, I don't think it was embarrassing either. I felt like it was like a real moment and it was a sad moment. She has nothing to be embarrassed about. She did nothing wrong. She did nothing wrong. Yeah. I think Sheree knew Tyrone wasn't coming. Hmm. What do you think? No.
Then she says the vulnerability felt intentional. I did not feel that way at all. I didn't either. I felt like it was a really real scene. We're also in a group chat with other people who agree with us on that. Like, that first thing we all texted was, like, that broke my heart with her. I disagree with that entire sentence. Sorry. Whoever it is that wrote that. Yeah. Sorry.
Cherie needs to dump her boyfriend. Drew is in denial about her marriage. I think that Cherie has dumped her boyfriend. I don't know. But I do think... Did you watch Watch What Happens Live with Drew on it? I didn't. It was a little rough with Drew talking about the husband. Sometimes I just wonder, is Drew wanting...
the audience to hate him. I mean, obviously they're doing polls and they're losing every single poll. Like, are they going to make it losing the poll? Is he a gas? Like you're losing the poll, you know, like every single one, but it was, it was pretty bad. And like, I still can't figure out if they're just doing this to for TV reasons or if this is really how their life is. Um, I don't know. The next one's funny. Marlo's confessionals are the highlight of my Sunday nights. You know what? Mine too. Mine too. I just want to hang out with her. Um,
They are too extra. Almost can't watch anymore. I disagree with that. I disagree. I like that they seem like an actual friend group and they can be extra, but they can also be vulnerable. That's huge. Not a lot of housewives you can say that about. Right. Then the final one is, oh, people are over the assistant storyline. They're saying it has been done too many times before. Yeah.
Kenya is much more likable this season. I think I was thinking too. I don't know. I think motherhood does her well. I liked Kenya. I'm loving Kenya this season. I loved Kenya on Dancing with the Stars. I loved Kenya on Girls Trip. So Kenya is we need to have her on essentially is what I'm saying.
Yes, we do. Okay. Well, make that happen. We've got to make that happen. I know I'm going to slide into her DMs, get through everything. I know you have to go because you, cause I have a pool outside the store. That's calling my name. I know go live your best life, but leave us a review and we'll talk to y'all later this week.
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