Answering Your Burning Questions About Us
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Does it bother you that Abby has more muscles than you? That's not even true. You are very, very fit. I don't have more muscles than you. I think your calf muscles might be bigger than my calf muscles. Did you combine your finances once you got married, pros and cons? What would be the purpose to itemize like that? Because like when you get married, you're going to be together for the rest of your life. That just seems like a logistical nightmare. What is your favorite feature about each other? I think you have really pretty hair. Thank you. It looks really good. It's thick. Yeah, I'm hairy.

I thought this question was super interesting. Baby names you liked but didn't use. I'm scared to say those. Because then we might actually use it. We cannot gatekeep baby names. Yeah, we can't gatekeep them. Do you know what name I really like recently? What? I like the name... What's up, dudes? And welcome back to the Unplanned Podcast. That's amazing. I don't know if you can tell, but we are in a freaking studio. This is

is so surreal honestly like it feels so fancy i know abby just saw this for the first time today we've been working on this for months and we're really excited about it it's fancy but it also feels like home which like you guys nailed it like you got a little kids corner over here we got the

I don't know, just like all the family elephant elements. The family elephants, we got all those? We should get some elephants in here. Should we tell them about... Wait, do you know the vision for the design? Like what it's supposed to entail? Yeah, it's supposed to be like...

your family's living room we'll have to bring our kids to the studio sometimes they can like play in the kids corner it's kind of cute oh my gosh i'd love it the little blocks we could not be here if it weren't for you all so we just first and foremost wanted to thank you for listening each and every week to our show this is crazy we are so so excited to announce that we have a studio um

You've probably noticed we keep getting some really cool guests on our show. And so we thought, man, we need to have a legit studio rather than just recording in our living room. And so that is what this is. And so we're probably going to see a lot more. You will be seeing a lot more of us in this space going forward. It's just so surreal that people listen to...

a long podcast of us just like talking and so when I meet those of you that listen regularly in person it's first of all so humbling and like thank you but also I'm like we're automatically friends to a certain degree because like you know me really well I know so I'm like

have a lot to chat about or probably a lot in common especially when other moms come up to me and talk about you know we have so much shared experience it's it's awesome i mean that is the crazy part you guys like we are we're very vulnerable on here if you can't tell like we're very open and honest about our life and um it's been really cool when when we get to meet people

that it's helping them in some way. Like that makes me so happy because if there's anything you gather from this podcast, I hope it helps you. I hope it makes your life better. I hope you laugh. I hope that some of the stupid stuff we say or do makes you laugh. Abby, what are you, what are you thankful for today? Anything on your mind? I'm thankful for plans. I'm the type of person that I don't,

don't like sitting around i don't like i don't know i need to leave my house i go crazy we have so many fun plans coming up so feel thankful for that and even just simple things like getting dinner with our friends like we had two dinner parties this week already like that's my that's my favorite thing i love like having that to look forward to at the end of the day where our kids can play together and they can get out of the house and do something fun and then us adults parents i just like

Love friends. I agree. I need friends. There's something about when you're a parent having friends that are also parents because you just can relate on such a deep level. I feel like there's a level of grace extended. Yes. Whereas like before we were parents, we might get more annoyed with people being late or maybe not us in particular because we were always late. But like.

in general, people will be like expecting you to be on time or like have your ish together. And you're like, as a parent, you kind of know that you're always flying by the seat of your pants and we might forget a diaper, but they have extra diapers or they have like the little baby plates and the packets, you know, they have everything, the high chair. Whereas like if we were to show up at someone's like newlyweds house with nothing, they'd be like, there's

There's a lot of hazards here. There's a lot of corners. There's a lot of things that they're going to rip off through your walls. Like, and yeah, I think that parents just, they, they have a common ground there. We happen to have friends that have dogs too. And our oldest is just obsessed with dogs.

So I love how last night at our friend's house, he was just chasing their dog around the room. And then when our youngest, Augie, was eating his dinner, he got blueberries all over the floor. And then the dog just came over and ate it up. I know. They're like, how do you do this? You guys have to vacuum every night. I'm like, yeah, it's a pain. But does it ever make you want to get a dog? We revisit this conversation, I feel like, quarterly.

I feel like that's a big question. Well, you know, I feel bad because I kind of said that we were going to get a dog like two and a half years ago. And then we found out like the next day that we were pregnant. But I really do think one day the dog thing will happen. It's just a matter. It's more of a matter of when.

Not if. Yeah, it's so weird. Like, I feel like I keep wanting it less and less. Really? I want a dog eventually for our kids because Griffin is obsessed with dogs. He talks about dogs every single day. He wakes up, he's like, dogs, poop. He thinks it's so cool that dogs poop. And he says, woo woo, dogs. And everyone that we know that has dogs, he always brings it up and talks about it to me. But the more I'm like, I don't know if...

i need another living thing to take care of you know what kind of makes me sad now that you brought up the dogs griffin used to call horses dogs and now he's gotten so grown up that he doesn't say that anymore yeah and he doesn't even call them nays it was dogs he'd go woof woof because he thought the horse was like a really big dog and now he just calls them horse which is also cute it is cute he's just grown up so much you know what he's been saying a lot recently too what today i

I was talking with him and he goes, chicken fries? What have we done? Did he want chicken? He wants Chick-fil-A. Yeah, he wants Chick-fil-A. That's what it is. He wants Chick-fil-A. He's like, chicken fries? And I'm like, you want chicken and fries? He goes,

We've taken him to the Chick-fil-A play place one too many times. He loves that. He loves going- We haven't done it that many times. That's the thing. He just remembers so- Like, he has such a good memory now. He brings things up all the time that he, like, pairs together. Like, my dad and popcorn. Like, he doesn't really have popcorn, but my dad gave him popcorn one time. He's like, Gah, popcorn?

I'm like, oh my gosh. Isn't that the most genius marketing strategy by fast food places to have a play place? No, it's incredible. So smart because then you hook the kids on the chicken and fries from the age of two. As a parent, I'm happy because we have an easy meal and air conditioning and a way for them to blow off steam. I'm like, this is perfect. Well,

One of my fondest memories as a kid is going to Mickey D's with my grandma. And she would take me to my brother's. We got Mighty Meals because you could get more chicken nuggets with the Mighty Meal. And I would get barbecue dipping sauce. And then like McDonald's had this big push to be healthy. So then they started doing apple dippers. Yeah, now they give you both, I think.

think you get you get both i think you have to get both okay or maybe you can get double fries if you don't want it i don't know i think they do give you both i don't know i haven't gotten him a happy meal ever the nostalgia in those play places is real the i feel like the mcdonald's ones are kind of until i realized that the parents weren't supposed to go in there wait what what was this i've been in there a few times with them really i go up there to the top i'm pretty sure those are like five and under yeah they are i'm

How funny would that have been if you would have collapsed the whole thing? Oh my gosh. I feel like it would have been, that would be like an episode of That's So Raven. They're like in the tunnels. They're like, Chelsea, we're stuck. Stuck where it breaks down. Like that'd be so funny. I miss old Disney. I don't even know what's on Disney Channel these days. Isn't it Disney XD or is that like 10 years ago? That was probably like 20 years ago. Okay. Yeah. We are old. Disney XD.

that that's like a new thing right disney xd it's been a long time maybe that was a new thing like when we couldn't afford cable anymore when i was a kid i think disney xd was like the new thing so i don't know if that that's probably old now yeah like in my brain that's still the new cool thing that's the cool you know what i was getting my

was getting my nails done the other day and in the salon they're playing fear factor what that's like early 2000s i'm pretty sure oh like on tv i thought you were saying like the salon ladies were just playing like a fun like a fun little game of fear factor like i dare you to eat this cockroach what is your brain that's what they were doing they were eating no they were catching cockroaches and they were eating spiders and then matt it makes me want to watch it with you we should watch fear factor but get this matt the couples were competing and the person at the very end

gets ten thousand dollars and it's a couple they're splitting it i think it's ten thousand they're splitting that and then it's getting taxed probably fifteen percent that's nothing that's not no seriously yeah they're probably fifty percent of that probably goes to taxes and they're splitting it and then you have to be the winning couple it's not like every participant you give away you give up like six months out of your year to go film this tv show and it's horrible and you end up getting two grand right they're doing horrible stuff

too. What is that? Like 50 cents an hour for your work? But it kind of made me want to watch Fear Factor with you because that was like when we were kids. Like we weren't probably, we weren't the age. We were missing, we were missing that stage. Yeah. So we should watch that. I'm in to do that. Would you ever do Fear Factor? I would love to do Amazing Race with you. That's what we've talked about. Do you think I'd be a good partner to have on Fear Factor?

That's oh, that's so tough. It depends because you are really like you're you're a really hard worker and you're brave and you're strong. Like not many women like willingly do CrossFit or just like want to just like I don't know. Like you're you're pretty freaking hardcore, dude. Thanks, man. You're tough. I'm going to say you'd be a good fear factor. The reason I think I'd be good is because I really feel like I would eat anything like and I feel like there's a lot of cockroach. Yeah.

Here's the thing. You eat a cockroach. If I knew that it was safe to eat, it was just like a matter of like whether or not you thought it tasted good, I could definitely eat it. I saw a cockroach today and it made me want to throw up. Don't eat that. I saw that cockroach. So, dude, it was like as big as my hand. It was the biggest bug I've ever seen in my life. We do episode one of Fear Factor right now. You eat it live on the podcast. Heck no. Are cockroaches poisonous? Abby, it...

I honestly would prefer a mouse in the house over a cockroach because that thing was so big. Are you kidding? I much prefer a cockroach. It had all these little tentacles and little grippers. It looked like it was an alien. Like a little mini alien is what the cockroach looked like. And I wanted to throw up. I picked it up with a piece of toilet paper. Oh, you already got it.

I put it in the trash. I'm literally pretty much the resident bug killer in our relationship. I don't mind flies. I don't mind spiders even, but that cockroach is freakish. It was scary. I'm looking up if they're edible. Oh, for some cockroaches are a delicacy that is eaten raw. Oh, okay. Let's go eat some cockroach.

You should do it. I think one time I was in this challenge thing in middle school and I ate chocolate covered ants. Oh my gosh. That's easy. That is so easy. And I ate grasshoppers. But those weren't covered in chocolate. They were just dead grasshoppers. And I ate one. That's big. Grasshoppers are huge. You mean cricket? Oh, maybe it was a cricket. Yeah, it was a cricket. That's what it was. Oh my god, grasshoppers.

I really think I'd be good. I think we'd be a good team on Fear Factor because I feel like you could do like the mental like puzzles. I feel like you have a good puzzle brain. And then I could do the food challenges that are just like, this is nasty. Like eat that. I think we do make a really good team. I think we have different strengths and weaknesses. So we kind of complement each other. And some of them are like very mental. Like they were like in a cage and they were dropping like tarantulas on them. Okay. Who would do that one?

I feel like it'd be me. You think so? I'd be like, put me in coach. What scares me on Fear Factor is they do the holding their breath underwater water unlocking stuff. No, I can't do that. No, I'll wear an ash note. I don't want to drown. But I think if I had to choose between drowning or getting burned alive, I would probably drown because when I was grilling the other day, I burned myself on the grill. Oh.

And it was a teeny little burn. It was like so tiny. And I'm like, imagine that times that a thousand all over your body. Matt, stop. No, thank you. Stop. That sounds horrible. That sounds so, so horrible. Where did this conversation go? Now I'm going to start talking about the Salem witch trials again. We talked about that on the last episode. I know, I was thinking about getting tart and feathered.

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Before we get into people's questions that they submitted for this week, because we had you guys submit questions for us to answer on the podcast Instagram. Thank you, everyone who did that. I wanted to get into our little situation yesterday with the Airbnb. Abby thought her phone got hacked or something because you started getting all these creepy messages from this guy. I didn't think it got hacked. I thought someone was like... You thought a creepy person got your phone number? What did you think happened? Well, the message said something along the lines of, you know you can read...

Airbnb and I was like what does that mean and then there was another message it's like I'm so embarrassed this is I I'm so disappointed in myself like please do not cancel this reservation and then another message that was like along the same kind of like panicky vibes and like broken like no coherent sentences I was like what's going on I went on the Airbnb app and I had like 17 messages from the host yeah

Well, there was that time when we lived in Hawaii where you accidentally clicked on that link and then gave up your personal information. And we had to go. No, Matt. It wasn't accidental. Oh, it was on purpose. Yeah, it was on purpose. Yeah. Well, it looked like it was from an official government website, but it was actually just a Google form.

It was a Google form. It was like, what's your social security? Okay. And you put it into the Google form. I think that was probably the dumbest thing I've ever done as an adult. And you know what? It's all right. I think you kind of just panicked and you didn't want to ask me. No, I didn't panic at all. I was confused.

was completely thinking everything was kosher i was like yeah this google document i'm like give up my personal i think my credit is still frozen yeah we had to freeze abby's credit after that um but we went to the police station reported it that was kind of spooky we like vlogged all that and then we were like maybe with someone stealing abby's identity right now we probably shouldn't like post this on the internet so i didn't even remember that at the time we didn't end up releasing that video um

But now that I'm thinking about it, that was kind of funny. We got through it, though, and we froze your credit. It all worked out. Yeah. But yeah, so I mean, like, when you brought up these creepy messages you were getting, my brain went back to, like, the identity theft situation. I thought, oh, maybe. Oh, no, it was just Airbnb. Yeah, I was like, maybe, you know, this is one of those situations. Again, I was like, did we give away our social? Like, what happened? But it was, all it was. You know what I really think happened?

I think this guy, I think his job is to manage the property, but it's not his property. And I think that he was worried that he was going to disappoint the owner of the house. And then he also, English wasn't his first language. Yeah. And I was getting all these calls. But the thing is, it wasn't from a phone number. It was from an email address.

I was like, this is so suspicious. So then I did try to cancel it, even though he told me not to. Well, you seemed really scared. I was scared because our babies are staying there. I know. So because you were so scared, I took it very seriously. And I was still confused as to who was sending these messages because you were like, I started getting these after I booked the Airbnb, but

it just didn't make sense. So I ended up calling the number that was listed for that Airbnb. And that's when I did figure out, okay, this is just someone who didn't speak English the best. And I think they were just trying to communicate to us that the air conditioning was broken, that they were going to try to convince us to still stay at that house, even though it had no AC. I'm not going to

stay in la with the windows open with two babies yeah and a potentially not the safest part of town i don't know i mean we just don't know the la area that well so we have no idea we have no idea if this is like a super safe sketchy parts of la we have well one time one time we drove up to the airbnb that we were going to stay in when we went to disneyland and they were like shooting up in the yard

Yeah, I don't know what drugs they were doing, but it just looked kind of suspicious. And you were pregnant. And we ended up just going down the road to stay at the Marriott. And we didn't get a refund for that Airbnb, but I just decided to take that loss and I did it with you or my baby to get hurt. Unborn baby. Yeah, my unborn baby. That was before Griffin. Wow, that's crazy. Yeah, before we had kids, we spent a lot less on hotels.

because we were like yeah it's just us we're gonna risk it now i'm like no no no it scares me yeah i i still refuse to spend very much on a hotel like when i fly to nashville to record music i always stay at like the cheapest hotel i can find because i just i don't know for me i'm like i'm by myself i don't have my kids i feel the same way it can smell like mildew and i'll get over it yeah probably not the best for my voice the next day when i'm singing oh that's

true yeah maybe one day i'll maybe one day on the couch in your studio i've done that i've crashed at my producer's house but i don't want to overstay my welcome like i've done that a couple times what about the couch in the studio i could do that yeah but the studio is also like at my producer's house oh i thought it was at a church there's two producers that i work with one he has a studio at his house the other his studio is in the back of a church in what used to be like a storage room so stay there but the hotel thing though yeah i i

When it's with our kids, like I'm not messing around. I'm not trying to stay somewhere that's super cheap. I just want, I want them to be safe and cared for. Well, it doesn't have to be fancy. It just needs to feel safe. Yeah. That's how I feel. You know, now that we brought up the identity theft thing, I, it kind of brings me back to that time where, can we talk about Duolingo? Can we tell, can we tell the story of what happened? I don't care. You don't care? Oh gosh. Yeah.

That was really loud. I don't know what just fell, but everything's okay. See? Duolingo is still continuing to curse me. That's...

it's okay you're all right yeah i think that was a book that fell over i don't know no no no this is why it was not a big deal so i gave my information to a scammer then we had to freeze my credit but it wasn't even detrimental to us when it came to buying a house because my credit was already bad and it's all because of freaking duolingo do you want to tell the story do you want me to

You can start. Okay. So how do we put this? Abby and I, we both got credit cards when we were freshmen in college because we wanted to build up our credit score. That way one day we could buy a house and all that because you know how it works in America. They check your credit score when you're going to buy a house. Anyway, long story short, we got a new credit card when we got married. We didn't close our old one, but we forgot that Abby's was connected to her Apple ID and Abby wanted to learn Spanish.

It came from such a wholesome place. So she got a subscription of Duolingo and completely forgot that it was... Or no, you knew that it was going. But I forgot that it was tied to your old credit card. Yeah. And I made sure that our credit card bill was paid in full every month. I was kind of a psycho about it. But then we were done...

We were done using those cards. Yeah, yeah. But we didn't... We should have frozen them. I didn't think about that. We could have frozen those cards, but we just had them open because if you keep your line of credit open and it's like a really old card, it's just good for your credit score. Anyway, Duolingo charged that card every single month for like a year. We didn't pay one penny of it. No, no, no. It was literally only three months before we realized it because I kept getting all these calls. I was like, Discover, he was calling me. It's so annoying, but I don't have...

I don't use that card anymore. So I didn't answer them. And then finally, I remember literally where I was. I was in a coffee shop, Kingdom Coffee in Springfield, Missouri. And they called me like, hi, I'm Dave from Discover. You are like, didn't they say like fraud? They used like a crazy word that was like. So the balance was like very low because Duolingo is not like expensive. But because I had failed to pay it like three months in a row.

It was a massive credit hit. I'm pretty sure it went on for a year. Because they didn't... Like, when you owe... You might be right. I think it was three charges, but then they were carried over for a year. Well, because think about it. I mean, Duolingo is what? Like $8 a month or something? $10 a month? So I think it was once you... It was like a $30 balance, though. Yeah. And then the interest built up. Because the interest on credit cards is insane. It was like 25% or something ridiculous. Yeah.

And so it built up like crazy and it ended up turning into, we owed them like $200, but it wasn't, it wasn't that we owed them $200. It was all the interest that built up, um, and fees. Cause if you don't pay the bill over time, they just like stack on a crap ton of fees. It was so dumb. But, um, what really screwed it, what screwed you was then your credit score got hit hard. And so then we ended up using my credit score for like buying our house and stuff. Um,

I wonder if it's too late. I wonder if we could dispute that. If you called and talked to Discover or called and talked to Duolingo, I wonder if there's some way that we could convince them that it was just all a little misunderstanding. I don't know. Whenever you tell me things like that, it kind of stresses me out. Really? I'm automatically triggered. Yeah. I hate that stuff. I'd rather just use your credit. Okay. I mean, we can do that. Whatever. Your credit's gotten better, though. It has because we have...

One of our credit cards is in your name. I don't need a perfect score. I just need a good enough score. This is a message to anyone who needs to hear this. Your credit score does not define you. That's beautiful. And that number does not put a value on you as an individual. I love that. And I still can't speak Spanish. Are you ever going to learn Spanish? Hola. Actually, I've gotten Griffin to say hola a few times.

Okay, there's been kids in our neighborhood that when I take the boys to the park, they'll be playing with other kids and the kids legit know so much Spanish because we're in Phoenix. There's a lot of people here that speak Spanish and it makes me want our kids to be bilingual. I think it'd be so cool. A lot of people in our neighborhood send their kids to Spanish immersion school. That's smart. But then how are we going to communicate with our kids? We got to learn Spanish too and we're going to have to re-download Duolingo and it's just going to be full circle Spanish.

Hey, your grandma can speak some Spanish. She can. She can speak it. And she learned it while she was a senior. 70. Which is encouraging because we could be retired and just be like, let's go move to South America and learn to speak Spanish. We can do it. That would be kind of fun. Maybe that's in the cards for us one day. Maybe. We might have to do Rosetta Stone or something. Thank you to Nutrafol for sponsoring this portion of today's episode.

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That's Nutrafol.com, promo code UNPLANNED. Our first question that we're going to answer comes from Janique Photo. And what she wanted to know is why we don't say what's up dudes anymore. I don't know if you guys noticed, we said what's up dudes to open the episode today. We don't say it because it's cringy, but I guess we're saying it again. Yeah, we stopped saying it because we're like, is this cringy? Well, no, we knew what it was. Yeah, I mean, we knew, yeah. You're so back and forth because sometimes you're like...

I think what's up dudes is stupid. We're going to cancel it. And then next thing you know, you're like, okay, we're going to start this off with three, two, one. What's up dudes. Okay, ready? Here we go. I'm like, wait, there was no conversation in between that. I want you guys to let us know if the top comment is to bring what's up dudes back, then we'll keep it. But if it's not the top comment, then maybe someone recommends this podcast to someone and saying like, it's like cool, insightful conversation. Um,

And then they first thing they hear is what's up dudes? Maybe, maybe what we'll do is we won't force our guests to say what's up dudes, but maybe like whenever we just do an episode of me and you. I'm, I'm, I'm for that. Maybe that's the way. Cause then our guests won't be so thrown off. Like these people are weird, you know? Yeah. Cause if you meet somebody and the first thing they say when you meet them is what's up dudes, you might be like, these people are weird, but we are a little weird and that's okay. Yeah.

Yeah. Next question we have is from Shreya. It's do Griffin and Augie get along? Augie doesn't really know what's going on right now. I think he just wants whatever Griffin has. And Griffin does not want Augie to touch what he has. Something I hope that Augie never loses is his laughter. He is the happiest little baby in the whole entire world. And you guys, if I just start tickling him for two seconds. He has a belly laugh and he rups.

And it's just, it is the best medicine any person could ever ask for. Hearing a baby's laughter is like music to my ears. It is so sweet and so precious. He's amazing. But yeah, I think Griffin started to get, Griffin is such a good, sweet, sweet kid. Especially when he plays with other kids and is around other little kids his age. Being almost two, that's a tough age. But he is so freaking sweet.

sweet. Like he is just a tender kid. Obviously he's going to get a little annoyed when his baby brother's like in his space playing with his toys. He'll just react impulsively. But, um, I don't think he ever has like malicious intent. We're trying to work with him more on sharing. I think as a little kid, it's hard to understand the concept of sharing. Cause you're like, this is mine. It's not yours. And even yesterday at our friend's house,

griffin was trying to claim all of our friends daughter's toys it's so normal yeah i mean i think they just get territorial and they're just like i want to try to claim as much of this stuff as i can um and we had a i had a heart-to-heart with griffin i said hey dude we have to share and so he was holding two big cars and i was like can you please give one of those to mia and he did that which is awesome yeah yeah i think

The best thing to do in those situations is pull them away from the situation and then just kind of de-escalate it a little bit. And then he usually comes around. Wait, can I play this video of Augie laughing? Go for it, yeah.

He has the best laugh in the world. That doesn't even totally do it justice. Like, he has the best laugh. But yeah, they get along great. And I feel like they're just going to be two pieces in a pod. They're starting to, like, become more similar in size. It's crazy. I just literally take clothes from Griffin's drawers now and put them into Augie's because the gap is closing. They are so close in size. Yeah.

And it is awesome. Like having kids that close in age is awesome because they just have a little buddy and they do everything with each other. They chase each other. They play with each other. They can even share diapers if they need to. I know. Yeah, they're sharing diapers now. Like we ran out of overnight diapers for Augie and then we just started putting Griffin's diapers on him. And we're like, wait a second. These are a little big, but they still work. He's such a big chunker. Yeah, they're so fun together. They play great.

I think what we could do is probably put them on each other's sports teams. Oh, for sure. I did that with my older brother. We're 18 months apart. And Griffin and Augie are 13, so even closer in age. And I played on my brother's baseball team for a while. That's so sweet. Yeah. That's so sweet. So I think that's in the cards. We just have to convince either my dad or your dad to be the coach.

because my dad coached my baseball team. So I feel like he'd be a great baseball coach for our kids. Yeah, your dad should do baseball. My dad can do soccer. Yeah, he'd have to move out here first. But yeah, your dad would be a great soccer coach because he played soccer in college. That'd be cool. I want to coach our kids to skateboard and to surf.

and to uh like and to snowboard too i think i'm gonna get griffin probably not augie next year i'll probably be too little but i think next year i'll get griffin on the slopes with me and i'll have one of those like little cords that we can snowboard down the mountain together and um you should get a little tiny mic on him so we can hear what he's saying yes i've thought about that i've seen there's a there's like a dad who's gone viral with i think it's him and his daughter snowboarding together

I know. I love those. It's so cute. Even just for us, like just to have, hear his little sweet voice when he's all big and his voice is all deep. Just to hear his little sweet voice right now. Griffin has a deep voice for a little kid. He does have a deep voice. And it's so funny. He's like, yeah. Compared to other kids. Because most little boys have like really high-pitched voices. But for Griffin, it's just like, hi, dada. Yeah.

Hi, Dada. That's what he says. Sometimes he's just like, honey. Something about Griffin. Sorry, we're talking too much about him. He's a family man. He loves going through every single person in our family all the time. In his bed, he'll be like, Addie Coco, Abby Uncle, CJ, Augie, Gamma Papa. What?

Like he just like runs through everyone in the family. That's his favorite thing is like, and he's surrounded by family and it just warms my heart so much. Like I just, I love that they're so involved and I feel like really, really blessed because I know that that's like something a lot of families want, but it's hard because of strained relationships or for whatever reason. But yeah, he's a family man. My parents were just in town visiting us and they left and I was kind of sad because I want my parents to have a good relationship with our kids. Um,

But it was cool because I FaceTimed my parents yesterday and it was just like they were there in the room with us. Like even though they're back in Missouri and we're in Arizona, they just had a full-on conversation with Griffin while he was eating his dinner. And it was so, so, so sweet. Yeah.

I love it. Next question is, I want to know the logistics of getting such cool guests. Wow. Okay. First of all, thank you. I'm so glad that you are enjoying the guests that we've had. This is kind of like behind the scenes. So hopefully you guys are interested in this. But I used to think before I ever like did this stuff, I just thought everyone who was like on social media had some sort of correspondent who just was like an insider. And they were like, make this video or here's this guest. Like kind of...

kind of like when you hear of like industry plants, like I just assumed like that's how this works. Everybody just had their secret person that was like pulling the strings for them behind the scenes. And it really doesn't work that way at all. Like for us, we're kind of just sending DMs and emailing people

and a lot of people don't even get back to us but when someone does we're like hey this is cool like this person wants to be on the show and so it's really just us and our and our very small team it's us our assistant our editor and we like very recently brought on a producer so yeah it's uh it's kind of a small little operation but i'm so thankful that you think our guests are cool i

I think they're very cool too. The next question we have is, did you combine your finances once you got married, pros and cons? I was actually just talking with my sister-in-law about this. I would be curious to pick someone's brain that's in a marriage where they decided to keep it all separate. Yeah. And to understand why, because you would have to be in a very unique financial situation for me to see where that would be necessary and more convenient. Because...

Like then you have to split it all up and you're like, okay, well, it's your month to pay the mortgage or like that just seems like a logistical nightmare. Yeah. Unless you're like, okay, you always pay the mortgage and I always pay the utilities. And but just like the only circumstance I can think of is if one person has a really bad spending problem and like you need to like protect yourself.

the rest like your finances like your funds but like otherwise I'm like what would be the purpose to itemize like that because like when you get married you're you're gonna be together for the rest of your life yeah

I would agree with that. I think it is interesting when people don't. I could totally see if somebody is like in a long term partnership and they haven't combined their finances, like if they're not married and they just, you know. Yeah, I will say a perk to that would be that if when I gave you a gift, it would really feel like me giving you a gift. Whereas like now it's like I.

to buy you something. Yeah. Which is still special, but... Okay, do we want to change that about us? Because we don't really get each other gifts. We get each other... I know, I want gifts now. We go on trips, so you want to change it up. You want to do gifts instead? See, it's not about the gift, but it's really the thought. Yeah. So it doesn't even necessarily have to be a gift. I just want something where it's not like...

oh like it fell on this day so that's what we're doing for your you know so and so and like you are amazing you did a trip for my birthday like like that counts i did set the bar high from the beginning of a relationship with like giving you a lot of gifts and then when we got married we decided to start taking trips because we we were like let's just yeah we're married we can like you know we sleep in the same bed let's go to like hawaii and stuff so we started doing that now but

I don't know. I actually take everything I said back. I don't really care about gifts. Yeah. I like the memories is what I like. Yeah, I like the memories. And there's so many places in our world. And the thought. There's so many places that I want to go to. Like, how cool would it be to go see the Sahara Desert in Africa and like ride a camel and see the pyramids? Like, how insane would that be, right? To go experience that?

I don't know if I'd bring our kids on that journey. Yeah. But then again, people do it. Like I'm really inspired when I see these families who take their kids all over the world and they get to experience so much. I see a little older. Yeah. I think right now is probably not the time for that. But, um,

yeah i i'd much rather have an experience over a thing that's like my personal take for sure yeah same i actually feel that i agree i i take back everything about the gifts yeah i just like the thought and the thought can be applied to a card it can be applied to a special date a trip you know all those other things how do you feel about you just you mentioned you said a car right like how do you oh a card i thought you said it could be applied to a car like oh my gosh that

be a huge that would be a good that would be a very big one because we like gifts i just want cars because the year that we moved to arizona we ended up buying two cars because we had no vehicle here we sold our car yeah when we left hawaii and we had guests and that were always coming from out of state yeah so like we bought two cars and both of those cars are five they seat five

Yeah. What do you think? Because I know you wanted to get a three row vehicle. You were you were very interested in that, especially once we had Augie. How do you feel about having just two rows right now? It's fine. I've switched my efforts to the house thing now. So I'm not going to mention the car thing until that. OK, so like the house is more on your priority list than the car.

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I don't really love sweets as much as you do. I love, I love sweets so much. But you don't like candy. I felt kind of sad. I, can I say this? My dad said to me, he was like, I never thought I'd have a belly. Oh,

And I feel like that's going to be me. Like, because my dad and I are so similar. Is that why you've been talking about your belly so much recently? Yeah. Well, because I have like a little bit of... I have a pooch. You do not. I have a pooch. You do not. I was always like the twig, Kenny. I was a twig. Like, I was a very, very skinny kid and I was embarrassed. I wanted to have more muscle. Ever since becoming a dad, I feel like it's just so easy. Like...

If I've had a hard day, I'll just binge cookies or sweets or ice cream or whatever. And now I have more belly fat than I've ever had. So yeah, I'm definitely aware of...

I could have a belly one day, which I don't want to have. I feel like just carrying extra weight, it feels like it holds you back in some ways. I always want to be able to do everything that I want to do. I want to be able to hike at an old age. I want to be able to surf at an old age. So yeah, I'm definitely trying to be more mindful of how much sugar I have. But I love all the sweets. I think your favorite food is a fresh baked chocolate chip cookie or sugar cookie.

You love sugar cookies. Fresh baked chocolate chip cookie is probably the one for me. That's your one? That's my weakness. When you bake... I love those. That's honestly for me too. Your recipe, which I think you got your recipe from our friend Bella. Yep. When you bake those fresh chocolate chip cookies...

That they just melt in your mouth. They're fresh off the pan. Oh my gosh. I could eat all 24. Seriously. I like those. I also like brownies, which you don't like. Yeah. And we like ice cream too. Yeah. We're like that. We're not as much the fruity dessert people. You're a fan of your Ninja Creamy. You'll make yourself a Ninja Creamy dessert. I need to get my Ninja Creamy going again.

I like it, but I can still taste the protein powder taste whenever you... I mean, I can make a non-protein ice cream with it. You can make regular yummy ice cream. But I like the protein powder.

protein one. I'm not picky. Yeah. So I like the protein one because it makes me feel more, feel more full afterwards. Something I admire about you is you have very good self-control when it comes to dessert and when it comes to portions. Like I, because I was always so twig skinny and I wanted to be bigger, I would like force myself to eat extra. So my natural state is just to eat until I'm like extremely full. Yeah. And I feel like you know how to have

have good portion control and you know how to like have one cookie and not seven you know yeah i just try to listen to my body i don't think i'm satisfied i'm just like oh i don't really want anymore because i don't think i've ever seen you eat like seven cookies in one sitting i've never done that yeah this never happened i've never done that no i can't i don't think that would make my body feel good i only do what like makes me feel good yeah you're good usually one cookie makes me feel good so i'm not like i'll never have cookies but we need to get you back in tune with your body

Yeah. I mean, it really did help. We got a cookie jar and when you baked cookies, last time you baked cookies, we put all the cookies in the cookie jar and they were out of sight. And so I didn't even see them and I forgot they existed because it's a lot harder if I'm walking through the living room and I see 24 cookies sitting out. I'm like, well, I'll just eat three, you know, like might as well. Right. But when it's in the cookie jar, it's not like hitting me in the face, like go eat cookies. You know, it's just easier for me to control that. I have a sight out of mind. That's how you always are. Yeah.

That's how you are with your parents. This is funny. Does it bother you that Abby has more muscles than you? That's not even true. You are very, very fit. Thank you. You have a really amazing body and you work so hard for it too. I don't have more muscles than you. I'm jealous. I'm jealous. You are like, you're very strong. I'm pretty sure you have, I think your calf muscles might be bigger than my calf muscles. Yeah.

That's really what I've been trying to grow. I've been trying to work on those calves. But I think you got that from doing ballet. For sure. Because you did point all throughout high school. So that's probably part of... My muscle capacity grew there. That's part of what it is. But you're very strong though, Abby. Like you, whenever you're like, I don't know if I could do a pull-up. You could probably do 10 pull-ups. Like if you actually tried to do pull-ups, you could probably do 10. I've seen you do one and then you...

This is you doing a pull-up. You really quickly do it and then you stop. And I'm like, you did that pull-up so fast. You could do so many more than just that. You're silly. I just like to work out. What's your average right now? Are you still doing five days a week? Yeah, my goal is five a week. I usually do five a week. That's impressive. My goal is three. So not quite as many as you. Three is great. I think anywhere from three to five is totally...

Even with a really busy week, I can at a minimum do three 30-minute workouts if I have like a super busy week. Right. So I feel like there's not like a big excuse there for me, you know? Whatever feels good. This one's a more serious question, but if you could choose any superpower, what would it be and why? I don't think I want a superpower. With great power comes great responsibility. And I don't want that. For me, it'd be flying for sure. Flying, yeah. Yeah.

Wouldn't everyone want to fly? Unless you're afraid of heights. Or, okay, shape-shifting would be sick. No. If you could turn into a gorilla. Then you could accidentally get into danger because they don't know that you're a human.

But like, say if someone, if you're in a dangerous situation. If there was a gorilla loose in Phoenix, what do you think is going to happen to that gorilla? But if you saw the person shape shift into a gorilla, then you'd be like, that's just a human that can shape shift. So I'm not going to, you know what I'm saying? No, I don't think that would be perceived normally. Because before the animal patrol comes, or say you see the animal patrol trying to catch you and like put you in a cage, then you can shape shift back to a human. Well, what's that process like is what I want to know. Like, is it quick or is it like, oh. Instantaneous. You can immediately. Oh, okay.

Yeah. I don't know how I feel being married to someone that could shapeshift. That's true. I would have some trust issues. Yeah. Oh, that's true. Because you could even... Shapeshifting to other people? See, I didn't even think about that. I was thinking about becoming an animal. All I can think about is Sky High when you say shapeshifting. Oh, really? Don't they shapeshift into guinea pigs? Maybe. But yeah, this book I read, this guy can become a gorilla or an elephant. And I think that could be very useful. Like if I need to get somewhere really fast and I don't have a car, cheetah. No, it's...

In America, if there is a cheetah running, it's not going to be good.

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What is your favorite feature about each other? I like these. These are like, there's been some questions that make us like say really nice things. Okay. And I like that. I'm actually curious what you think my favorite. Actually, I know what your favorite feature is on me. Physical feature? Yeah, I know it is. I know it. What are you going to say? You've told me it was my chest before. Yeah, that would be like my favorite body feature. Ah, okay. You have a great chest. Thank you. And that's very random, but it's just, I love laying my head on there. For your face, you have such...

You have such a good smile. Thank you. I love your teeth. I think you have really pretty hair. Thank you. Like you have, I'm so jealous because my hair is very thin and fine. But your hair is so good. Thank you. It looks really good. It's thick. You style it well. It's kind of a mess right now. But I like it when it's up though. I think it looks good up. Thank you. Yeah, I'm hairy. I'm all hairy.

Our son got it from me. Really? Have you seen his legs? Does our son have hairy legs? Griffin has very hairy legs. Really? I've never noticed. My parents both brought it up to me. They're like, have you checked out his legs recently? It's all blonde, so it's easy to miss. But if you look at it and it catches the light, he has a lot more hair than the average one-year-old.

That's so cute. No, what's funny about him is he has a full... He has all of his teeth. Yeah, so many teeth. And he's had it for a long time. For months. Like a year, honestly. He's such a little kid and then he has every single one of his chompers. He's like...

Yeah. Yeah. He's advanced. He's advanced. I think you have really pretty eyes too. And I like it when you wear green because green compliments your eyes. Thank you. What is one thing that the kids do that make you laugh every time? Dude, farting is so funny. Like when our kids fart, it's hilarious, especially when it's so loud that you think it's me. Yeah. That's hilarious. Griffin tooted on Addy yesterday. It was really funny.

that is hilarious. That's a good one. I think just the things they've randomly, first of all, Augie is such a mimicker. Like if we do this, like cock our head to the side, he'll cock his head, but so adorably, um,

That cracks me up. He does that and he can we were like snapping. He was pretending to snap to clap. He can mimic anything we do. And that just is so sweet because it's like I think he's like not as much there because he's still so baby. But then when he does those things, I'm like, oh, my gosh, he's just he's sitting there observing. He's learning and

And he's processing. Griffin, just the things he says are hilarious. And the way he retells stories with so much gibberish and then randomly putting real words in there cracks me up. Yeah, I love when he tries to tell people about how we'll like go see the horses. He'll be like, horse, beep, beep. And then he'll say like, poop.

Blake and he'll say Addy Coco. But he just assumes that everybody knows who Addy Coco is. But Coco is his uncle, which is your brother. And we'll go and see their dogs. And he loves their dogs. And so like it'll just go up to some random person and say all that. Yeah. And then he'll just like say beep beep. Yeah. Beep beep refers to the cat. The way he says trash truck is probably the funniest thing though. Trash truck? But everything's a trash truck to him. Yeah. Even a fire truck is a trash truck. He's obsessed.

I told my dad this because I was like, dad, if you became a trash truck driver, you'd be Griffin's hero. He seriously would be.

And I've even considered like, could I, could I convince like the, the trash truck service to let me be that for a day? Cause if Griffin saw me in the trash truck, that's probably a Holly highly qualified position. Probably. Yes. But my son would think I, I was Superman here. I mean, let's be honest. Kids think that we're super cool. It's just like part of being a parent. They look up to you a lot, but man, if I was in the trash truck, I think that would bring me to an even higher level. It totally would, which would be awesome. Yeah. How are you guys finding joy in your life?

How are you finding joy, Matt? It sounds so cliche, but really my kids just brighten my day so much. Yeah. Right now we alternate days that we wake up with the kids. It works out great for us. They're sleeping in longer now, but for a while they were getting up in the fives. So when you're waking up at 5 a.m., that's not ideal. You know, that's really early. So we were switching off and today Abby woke up with the kids, but Griffin ran into our room and came and said hi to me in bed. He tickled your feet.

He tickled my feet and then I snuggled with him and I ended up getting up then because I just couldn't resist that cute kid. Yeah. But that was like the best way to wake up in the morning is just to see my happy little toddler saying, hi, Dada. You know, I was like, Dada, be quiet. He goes, he like snuck in quietly and then he's like, oh, Dada. Like so loud. I'm like, OK, you were supposed to be quiet.

But yeah, there's so much joy. I love too when he wakes up from his like nap or he wakes up in the morning and he's just calling my name. Oh yeah. Yeah. I feel like I find joy of course like always in my family but recently like I said having plans like having something to look forward to is like...

I feel like for just daily joy, like having something daily to look forward to. And I do look forward to, I look forward to dinner plans. I look forward to us. Like I'm going to a birthday party and I am going to have that trip coming up. And then there's just so many things to look forward to a bachelorette. I love that. I dread the day that Griffin realizes that I'm not a superhero because one day we won't be as cool to him as he thinks we are right now. That's sad. Don't you remember when you realized that your parents weren't actually that cool? Yeah.

I don't remember having a moment like that. Really? I thought you did. Maybe I did. Maybe I was like a, I was a skater kid and I was like, oh, my parents are trying to make me wear a helmet. That's so not cool. You know? But, which I will make our kids wear helmets. I do that already. Yeah. Really care about their little noggins. Their little noggins. And they come in handy too. Like they, they fall, they fall over so much when I take them off the bike.

I'm like, should I take their bike helmet off? And I'm like, I'll just leave it back on. They'll be like running at the park and just Griffin ran into a metal pole and his helmet protected his head. That's funny. I'm like, I'm so glad I didn't take that. I'm like, I should put a helmet on that kid all the time. Truthfully, yes. We should just have a helmet on them literally 24-7. I don't know because then they might just be more reckless because they know and then one time they can't wear a helmet their whole life.

If your arm breaks, you know, it can grow back. It can mend itself. Oh, that's true. You can do all this stuff. But, man, you hit your head hard enough. That'll affect you for life. So I thought this question was super interesting. And I'm interested to see if you want to even answer this. Oh, boy. But it says, baby names you liked but didn't use. I'm scared to, like, say those. Because then we might actually use it. I don't know.

is fine. Who cares if other people use it? We cannot gatekeep baby names. Yeah, we can't gatekeep them. You know what name I really like recently? What? I like the name Fisher a lot. But then I've thought about the fact that your family has the last name Fisher. That's true. But is that good? Does it make it better or worse? That's a cute name. I like the name Fisher. I think the name Fisher is so cute. It's so similar though because we both have always liked the name Fletcher. Yes. Fletcher is so cool. So I feel like we either are going to have a Fletcher or a Fisher. Fisher is cool. Fletcher.

Fletcher is really cool. If I haven't told the story of how we came up with Fletcher, I met a guy on the slopes one time. He was a snowboarder. Super cool dude. And his name was Fletcher. And I jokingly told Abby, how rad would that be if we named a kid Fletcher? And then she actually liked the name. Well, at first I was like, haha. And I was like, but wait, I actually like that. So yeah, I like...

And I think they all fit with our, those both fit with our other names we have. For a girl, we've always loved the name Finley, but we already have a Griffin. So I don't think we can have a Griffin and a Finn. Yeah. Would that be weird to have a Griffin and a Finley? And also the main other reason is that we have family that likes the name Finley. So we'll probably let them use it. Oh, that's sad though. Cause you've wanted the name Finley. I know, I've liked the name Finley since I was like a kid. That's been like 20 years in the making that you've liked that name. It's such a unique name too. I know.

And I feel like, okay, Flynn Entangled is Flynn Rider, right? So I guess that's different than Finn. But I feel like that name could almost work for a boy or a girl. Finley? Oh, totally good. Isn't it? But I like it for a girl. It has its origin in...

Is it Scotland? Maybe. Is that what it is? Maybe. Isn't it like a... That sounds right. I'm a history nerd, so I looked it up one time, but yeah. I really like the name Finley, and I like the name... Those are all F names, Fisher and Fletcher. You got other names you like? The other one that you had that you've liked for a long time, we even came up with a middle name. It was... The first name was Emmett, and the second name was Oliver. Yeah, I like the name Emmett. That kind of still fits, too.

Oliver's also a name that someone in our family likes. And Oliver's a great first name. Yeah. Oliver Howard, Emmett Howard. They're all so, they're so good names. Like, all of them are so good. Mm-hmm.

And Daisy was one. You thought we were thinking of like if we ever had a girl, we'd name her Daisy. And we kind of thought that was kind of cute. I kind of like Daisy. I kind of am on the fence about it. But now that I say Daisy out loud, I go right. I just don't think it fits with our other names. It doesn't fit with the other names. And then it makes me think of Mario Kart. Like choose your character. Daisy. Do you want Daisy or Peach? You know, like that kind of. No, I love the name Daisy. I just feel like it doesn't fit with our other names. That's a really good point.

I also like the name Clementine, but you didn't love that one. That's cute. It doesn't really fit our other names either. It doesn't. I like the name Chloe a lot, and I like the name Blake. Fletcher would be such a cool name. And then because it is a little more unique, we could give him a very normal name.

A very normal middle name? Like, I don't know. I don't think Fletcher's that unique. I think it's, like, a good name. You think so? Yeah. Okay. I like that name. Because I thought about that, too. Like, if you give your kid a really unique name, you might want to give them a very normal middle name. That way, if they hate their name, they can go by their middle name. Well, also, just for flow of a name, I feel like it fits better to have, like, something...

Something more. Yeah. But even my friend, Brendan, like his middle name is Brendan. He doesn't go by his first name. His first name is John and his second, his middle name is Brendan. And then he chose to go by Brendan. That is interesting. Did you know it was a big crisis in my family when I decided to go by Matt instead of Matthew? Really? My parents were sad because they, they always liked me as Matthew, but I thought Matthew wasn't very cool. So I,

I thought it'd be like a cooler name to go by Matt. Really? Yeah. See, I like Matthew. Really? Yeah. Interesting. You want to go back to Matthew? It feels like the only people that call me Matthew are my parents. And then maybe like two or three kids that went to school with me in like elementary school before I changed my name to Matt. Those kids sometimes will call me Matthew. I'm down to switch it back if you like. Really? I don't know.

I don't know. You actually like it like that? I like Matthew for sure. Well, because my dad's name is Matt. So I'm like, that would give me a little distinction. Yeah. No one calls him Matthew. Why does Matthew not feel as like tough? Really? Yeah. Matt feels tough. Matthew doesn't. Ask yourself a deeper question. Why do you want to be tough? Just kidding. Yeah. Maybe that's some stuff I need to work out. Yeah. Well, you... Maybe that's a deeper issue. Maybe. Maybe.

We just aired out literally all of our baby names. I know that was, that was our whole list. I'm like, should we have done that? But what's funny is you guys, we've had those names for a very long time.

And we never used any of them for our kids. Griffin was like spur of the moment, random, like this name sounds cool. And I was like, I also think that name sounds cool. August, same situation. And both times they were you. You picked out both of our kids' names. And I was like, I also like that. Like it wasn't that deep. Well, it's also because I spend so much time thinking about it. And I'm like, if you were to come up with one, I would be open to it. Really? Yeah. I was thinking the other day, I was like, do I like the name Franklin? Because I think that's kind of cute. But then...

I don't know if I could do it as a name for our kids. Franklin is kind of cute, though. Franklin's kind of cute, but maybe we could get a turtle and name it Franklin. Yeah, I would do that. That'd be cute. Franklin for a dog? That'd be a cute... Wait, we should get our dog named Franklin. That's so cute. Yes. A big old fluffy Franklin. I thought we were thinking of the name Rocco for a dog. I think Rocco's a good dog name, too. I think of a big shaggy dog. I'm thinking of like a... Rocco. Like a... What's the breed called? Stop. You're getting my brain thinking because now I'm thinking about a house...

With a dog. Well, your cousin's dog is called Bear. And he looks like a bear. He looks like a big black teddy bear. Well, chocolate. Or he's a chocolate doodle. A chocolate doodle. Yeah. So such a beautiful dog. Such a friendly dog. And I think of a dog that looks like that named Rocco. Yeah. And our kids could just like play with them. We should do that. Now we're back on the team dog. Yeah. But I don't want to potty train a dog. No. I can't even potty train a kid yet. Yeah. Yeah.

We'll do it. We'll do it eventually. By the time you guys are watching this, we will have uprooted our lives to live in Nashville for a month.

And it kind of got me thinking, we'll be in the South. We'll be in the country. Are you going to start saying y'all again? Are you going to be? I still do. Like, are you going to like consistently be like, hey, y'all? Or like, howdy, y'all? I text it more than I say it. Same. Like, I text y'all. I don't really say y'all as much. I never say, yeah, I don't really say y'all in person. But sometimes if I'm trying to be kind or come off, you know. Well, you know what?

how about y'all do that and then but I won't be like hey y'all yeah that feels more unnatural for me it's funny because you never said that until we lived in Springfield Missouri which is near Arkansas living in southern Missouri will do that to you made you say y'all yeah I like it like when someone

says y'all i'm like oh they're friendly did you know my my own cousin developed a country accent when she went to school in the south college shapes you and it shaped and it definitely shaped you and then we we even started doing like two-stepping and stuff maybe we'll have to go out and two-step while we're in nashville i'm sure there's a good like dance hall that we could go to and dance i'm sure there's a million and it'll be really fun we're decent dancers but two-stepping is never something i got good at though oh i would look like a total doofus trying to two-step and it's really me like a line dance

I feel like those will be fun. And I feel like TikTok has made line dances even bigger. Really? Line dancing is big on TikTok these days? I think. I don't know. I don't have TikTok. But that's what I heard. I had a friend who went out recently and she said it was like all TikTok line dances. And then she didn't know any of them. Yeah. She's like, we should brush up. What I want to do when we're in Nashville, I want to go to like the...

Is it called Broadway? Is that the main road where there's all the live music and the bars and stuff? And I kind of want to experience that, which I think would be... That would be really fun. Neat. It'd be cool if we went on one of those party buses. That scares me. It is a little crazy. It seems fun, but I don't know. I get really overwhelmed with drunk people. Like...

I'm weary of them. Maybe we like only stay out till 10 because I feel like if you stay out super late, it's probably going to be a lot of... That's as late as I want to stay. That 10 o'clock is the new 1 a.m. Yeah. It really is. And we are waking up with the kids in the morning. So it's kind of like... It really is the new 1 a.m. Yeah. 10 o'clock is the new 1 a.m. 10 o'clock is the new 1 p.m. I love that. I literally need to go to bed at 10 p.m. or else I'm just... My body is ready to go to sleep then. Well...

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