Bella & Dallin Lambert on Adopting, Infertility & Faking Pranks for Views
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- We are adopting a baby. - Hey! - It's happening. We're gonna be parents, we have a crib. - With infertility, it's like an if. But with adoption, it's going to happen. And like when she said that, it just like hit me. - We're so excited to bring home a baby, like a real life human baby. I feel like we were kind of just blinded by the views. Every prank that we posted on our channel was staged. - And every prank that we participated in was staged. - Yeah. - With other creators, you're faking these videos and it's just like 100%.

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I'm really excited. You're not biased at all. Wait, Bella. Bella, have you listened to every episode? I have. You're joking. I'll be honest too. I think I've seen every episode as well. Yeah. Really? I'm not even kidding. Wait, you've seen every episode, Dallin? I really think I have. I feel really special. You guys sent me one of the episodes before it came out, the cancellation one. And I cried myself to sleep watching that one. Oh.

It's a really good episode. I really loved it. We were really scared to post that. So you letting us know that, I don't know, you watching that meant a lot. And then you saying what you said after watching the episode meant a lot too. You gave us the bravery to post. Well, it was good. And don't make me cry like that again.

That's funny. Yeah. So stoked to have you guys. I feel like we should give a little background of your story before we get into it. We're excited. Hey, I know what I realized today, Abby. Every single guest we've had on the podcast has waited until marriage.

Is that not wild? Wait, that's not wild. What in the wholesome? Yeah, because you guys, wait, did you guys wait so long? Yeah, we did. Okay. We need to probably like have some more variety. So could you guys actually, can we get some other guests on here? Yeah, seriously. We're out of here. We need to shake it up a little. Oh my gosh. That's funny. Well, we need to start back with like the beginning of like your guys' story. Okay. Like even before you guys met, because Bella specifically has some very cool,

things she's done in her life. Can I talk about your business a little bit? Yeah. So I've been a business owner since I was 14. I'm 26 now and I have a business called, it originally was Origami Owl, but now it's called Think Goodness. It's, we have a couple of different brands under the Think Goodness umbrella. And I've been doing that since I was 14. I did not expect it to take off like it did. And it kind of just blew up and I've just been doing it ever since. And I love it. And it's just, it's been,

It's been a crazy journey, really. Bella's really humble when she talks about it, but she freaking crushes it. Yeah. She crushes it. Well, you're so humble that, which we'll get into this later, like how we first met you guys, but when you, guys, guys, we were in Disney World and you gave me a necklace and I was, you were like, yeah, this is like my business. I was like, I'll share about it, like help her business. No, literally her business is like.

We thought you had a small Etsy shop and we're like, oh, this is really cute jewelry. That's what everyone thinks. We thought it looked really good and we're like, we should support her small Etsy shop. And we look up and we're like, holy frick, this girl's business is huge. This is not a coincidence, but I feel like every single person that...

really kind of, not like down talks themselves, but like, I don't know, they're extremely humble. Yeah. Has like the biggest stuff behind them. Like they've done the coolest thing. That's what I like about you, Bella, is you're very humble. You guys, I didn't know I was going to get like hot stuff like this today. No, you're very humble. We just gassed Bella up the whole time. I'm like feeling good right now. But like, you're probably,

I'll be honest, you guys are probably some of the most successful people I know in my life. - Wow. - And so like, and I like to be around people like you because you're extremely hardworking and successful, yet you're so humble. - Oh my gosh. - Like I don't wanna be around people that are prideful. I don't like that. I don't vibe with that. - I feel that. - But like you guys are real and you're authentic and I like that about you. So yeah. - Well thank you. - You guys are cool. - Thank you you guys. That's so nice. Actually funny story. When I first met Dallin, so we met, I had a party at my house

And he walked in with his girlfriend at the time. Wait, what? Yeah, this is like... Wait, wait. Okay, okay. Let me defend myself. We were going through a breakup pretty much. Oh, yeah. Like we were...

This girl and I were pretty much... It was the end of our relationship. Oh, okay. We went to this party and... We were friends for a whole year before we started dating. But for the longest time, I didn't want any of the guys that I dated to know that my company was successful because I didn't want them to like me for the wrong reasons. No, yeah. So I told him that I worked at H&M and... So listen to this then. I thought that Bella worked at H&M. We started dating and Bella has a convention where...

Everyone in the company, there's like 4,000 people. They rent out a hotel and these 4,000 people come and come to listen to Bella speak. And Bella brought me to this convention without having any idea. And I walk in the first day and they swarm Bella to take pictures. And I'm like...

what is going on dude i was mind blown he's like wait so you don't work at h m and i was like no that's what pretty much right around that same time i was like okay so i actually like speak at these like events do you want to come yeah and then he came and i was mind blown and then he fell in love with me yeah just kidding wait how long were you guys together before you found out that she owned this successful business and that was only like a couple weeks after we started dating yeah that i was pretty quick

We were friends for a whole year. We would actually go on like group dates and he would be with another girl. I would be with another guy. Yeah. So it's kind of funny. Like for a whole year, I was pretty much waiting for my time for, Oh my. Wait, hold on. I was like in line. Then you guys started dating and how long did you guys go from dating till engaged till, you know, being married? When we first started dating this, I just have to say this. Wait, do you know the dates? Yes. I know every date. You're kidding. When we first started dating, Dallin looked at me and he was like,

Mark my words within the next six months we'll be engaged and I laughed so loud I thought that was the funniest thing because I'm like there's no chance for getting engaged in six months like you're crazy and then Exactly six months later. He proposed and I said yeah pretty close pretty much within Six months later and then we got married three months after that we had a very short and you had the most epic wedding Literally, I wish that we were friends What you're

2017. Yeah. Whoa. Okay, yeah. We were... Well, it was a carnival-themed wedding, right? It was a carnival. With the Ferris wheel. It was like a party. That's cool. It was so fun. We had food trucks, a Ferris wheel, swings. The hammer ride. The hammer ride. That's so sick. It was just like a big party. We actually catered Cane's in. You know, Cane's Chicken. That was like our favorite. Yeah, that's cool. So we had like... You know, it was just a big party. That fits you guys so well. And I wish we were friends. Yeah.

We didn't want to do the whole. Traditional. Yeah. You guys should do a 10 year. We're going to. And you guys will be invited. Oh, yes. Yes. We're going to rent out that same carnival for a 10 year. We have to do it. It's so fun. You want to know another crazy story? What? As well, this is pretty wild. The first date we ever went on, we ended up going to a carnival. Oh.

Oh, cute. And that carnival that we were at in like a Walmart parking lot was the same carnival that was at our wedding. Yeah. Just coincidentally. Same workers and same rides. Whoa. Isn't that pretty wild? It was meant to be. Dang. You guys are some of like the luckiest people. It's crazy. Like you have so many coincidences and like things just align. Dallin is the most lucky guy I've ever met in my life. That's how I feel like Matt is too. He is so lucky. I don't understand. Like good things just come.

come to Dallin. Well, recently, not too long ago, talk about you on Mr. Beast. Wait, yeah, you, Dallin won a Mr. Beast video. Go watch it. It's Mr. Beast's Chocolate Factory video where he launched his brand, Feastables. That's crazy that you won that, bro. You,

You won $500,000. No, what's crazy is that- And everyone thinks it's fake. No, that's what I'm saying. It was real. It's 1,000% real. And you got picked completely random, which is insane because you guys bought, was it like $300 in Mr. B's chocolate? We just made a fun video buying the chocolate thinking this is fun. I want to win a jet ski or a Tesla or some merch. I don't even know. If we have a shot at this, why not? Whatever.

And then we just did that and then. But you did buy a lot of chocolate. How much did you buy? Unreal. We bought a lot of it. Like $300 worth? Yeah. I don't even remember. It was probably like $400 or $500 maybe. That's a lot. We bought a lot of chocolate. Let's just say we still have a lot of Feastables chocolate. You up your odds. But that paid off. It paid off. It did. It was an investment. It was an investment. If you guys want to share, I actually really like the chocolate. So that'd be awesome. You can have as much as you want. We have a lot of chocolate. You guys gave us like 20 bars and we ate it all. Yeah. It's really good. And we still have a connect. So quick phone call, you know. Do you have Mr. Beast's phone number? I cannot. I cannot.

deny or confirm wait do you actually have mr beast phone number not mr beast himself but do you have his manager's phone number i could get a hold of mr beast if i wanted to no way they recently requested he requested that dallin was in they just did like a promo video where they gave a tesla yeah and they had dallin fly out to give the tesla because mr beast couldn't be there so i was in new york with bella i was doing a show out or not a show uh some business stuff out there yeah and i just randomly get a call and they're like

Can you be in Salt Lake City tomorrow? We want you to give away a Tesla. He was like, bet. Yes. I'm like, done. Get the flight right there. Red Knight or Red Eye Home. So when you're giving away these Teslas for Mr. Beast, are you paying for your plane tickets to fly out there? Or like, how does that work? No. So that one I did. And they're like...

So they thought I was in Utah at that time. Okay. And that's why they reached out. And I was like, I'm not there, but I'll be there. He's like, I will be there. Because then I got to reconnect with like his manager out there. I got to reconnect and like just talk. We hung out for a while. His team is so sweet. We love them. They're so nice. Yeah, they were really cool. That's a really cool opportunity. I would have done the same thing. I could talk for like two hours about that experience. It was obviously really frustrating when people were saying that it was fake, but it was also kind of funny just because it's like, it's down. Like he's just this lucky dude. It's funny because like- You have Bella.

I feel. I know. I feel. Yeah, it's wild. I've actually heard Mr. Beast like gives away less money than he could because if he gives away say a million dollars, like people will actually think it's fake. So he only does. I've heard he just does like 500,000. Yeah. Because if he does more people like, oh, that's just fake. Well, I've heard too is like 500,000 apparently in the title performs better than a million. Oh.

Oh, you're right. That's a bigger number. It's like a bigger number and more people click on a video if they see 500,000 compared to a million. He thinks of everything. It's wild. His logistics behind all of that is just next level. I still cannot believe you were in a Mr. B video. Neither can I. How many views does that video have? Last time I checked, it was like 180 million. No.

180 million? Yeah. 180 million. And you were the star of that episode. He was the star of the show. You guys, you should have seen me watching that episode. I was supposed to wait for Matt. He was gone for the day, but I couldn't. Oh, I remember that. We haven't been posted on your guys' Instagram because we have the video of you watching it. Oh, really? And it's so funny. You sent me a video of your reaction. I think you were crying. Shaking. You guys are awesome. I was like, because before I was trying to get it out of you, I was like, did you win? And you had to convince that you didn't win. I didn't tell anybody. I didn't tell my parents that I won. I didn't tell any siblings.

I didn't tell anybody that I won. I didn't want to ruin the video. I wanted to be cool. And by not telling anybody, they thought I lost. I totally thought you lost. I thought you got in the top five or something. Yeah, everybody thought the same thing. And so it made it even better when that video dropped. Dude, my phone blew up. People were just like, oh my gosh, this is insane. It was so epic. I was going crazy. And when the challenges came up, it was like for the rock climbing one, I was like, he rock climbs

he's got this yeah I mean we honestly could talk for like hours about that it was pretty wild and you worked so hard for that bro like I can't imagine you ate like a pound of chocolate or something crazy I did that and threw it all up that night he was so sick oh my gosh dude I was so sick oh dude I I was not losing like it didn't matter what I needed to do I went into there like I will win this

He every day he like looked at himself in the mirror before he went. He's like you are going to like you've got this like he was like hyping himself up. He was meditating like he yeah. You can tell you were locked in. I was locked in. And we were in the green room behind like waiting for a challenge and I'm just sitting there like focused. Everyone's like eating like chocolate like hanging out. And they're like what's wrong with him? And Bella's like don't talk to him. Like he's in the zone. He's in the zone right now. People probably thought I hated him but like I wasn't there to make friends. I was there to win half a million dollars. I love that. Bottom line.

- Love that. - And he's also Gordon Ramsay's nephew, so it's kind of biased. - Oh my God. - Everyone thought that dude. - People thought that you were Gordon Ramsay's nephew. - People thought that. - I see the resemblance. - And they're like, it's fake. He's Gordon Ramsay's nephew, it's fake. - Dude, I don't even know how that began, but. - Oh my God. - Wait, that was another conspiracy that they thought that you were related to the industry? - Still, people are like, he only won 'cause Gordon Ramsay is. - My parents are getting approached and being like, so which one of you is related to Gordon Ramsay? And they're like, what are you talking about? - What? - Yeah.

It's pretty wild. We should put all of Dallin's doppelgangers. What did they say? John Cena? Yeah. I get John Cena all the time. There was so

- There's someone else too. - John Cena? - Who else? - Oh Ferb, 'cause I have a long head. From Phineas and Ferb. - It's crazy how on social media, because there are people that do fake videos, it's crazy that you have all these people that are like, oh, everything's fake. Mr. Beast videos are fake. The winner of Mr. Beast video is fake because it's Gordon Ramsay's nephew. And it's like all this, all these lies come up on a true video because people have ruined it for other people. - This is something that's really cool too about Mr. Beast. Part of that video was,

When he handed me the deed to the property, because you could either win the chocolate factory or I could sell it back to him for $500,000. He handed me an envelope and written on it was it said deed of the property.

And I was like, there's no way that actually in this envelope is the real deed. You know, because it's just an envelope. No one would ever know. I open it up. I pull out a packet. It is the actual deed of the property signed by Jimmy Donaldson. No. He does not fake anything. I approach him. I'm like, dude, you really put the real deed in here? He's like, what do you mean? And I'm like, well, like, why would you not just have an empty envelope? He's like, well, I'm not going to lie. And I'm like, dude.

i love that respect i love that respect and everyone's like that was eye-opening the 500 000 on the wagons he's like that was fake i'm like no it wasn't that's the first question everybody asked was that 500 000 on the wagon fake it was real dude 100 real money real money like literally dude i have chills i literally have chills every single thing he does is real why am i tearing up right now this is like i'm drinking an energy drink right now and it's really like you guys matt has been

on one for the past three hours. But going back to the original thing, I'm the luckiest guy ever. I have this girl. She is so successful. She's awesome. You guys really are a power couple. Thanks. And then we met you guys. Oh my gosh. We had to go into that story. At Disney. At Disney World. I have to

I'm so excited to talk about this. What? Okay. I will never forget the first time that we like met you on Zoom, okay? We had a Zoom call set up with the Disney employees. I remember you guys from that. And all the people who were invited to go on this Disney trip.

I see. So I was like curious of who was going to be on that call because it was just like coordinating like the Disney trip. And your guys' picture, you guys were sitting there and you guys were like bouncing up and down, smiling ear to ear. And every time they're like, okay, and this week for the, first of all, everybody's stone cold on that. Like just like sitting there, like chilling. And then every time they're like, and then we're going to ride Splash Mountain. You guys would be like, me?

At the end of the video, the people who were coordinating the call were like, we just got to give a shout out. Matt and Abby, you guys are like the most hype for this trip. Yeah, I remember that. And then I remember that call ended. I looked at Don. I'm like, we need to be friends with them. Like, that's the kind of friends I need in my life. That's so sweet. That's not all annoying for you guys? No. I have to... I just like have to give you guys some kudos because...

you guys are the most genuine people I have ever met. And you guys are just truly yourself. Like it just shows like in that Zoom call, I was like, because just like you said, like sometimes you might wonder like, oh, is that video fake? Is that staged? And like, I definitely had my suspicions for a minute. I'm like, maybe they do like fake some of their videos or something. But then when I see you guys on that Zoom call, you guys are just like stoked on life. I just love it. I'll be honest with you. There was one time, I remember this TikTok specifically, we did a TikTok back in like,

May of 2020 and there's this I saw this creator make this video where it got legit like 80 million views and we had like 50,000 followers and I was like wow

80 million views like what do you do and it was clearly faked and i'm like okay like do people actually do people actually fake their videos for views and i'm like i don't like that and but we but we did it and it was this it was this thing where you chop off you pretend to chop off your finger and put ketchup there yeah well i did it and then the video we posted it and i felt bad about it and the video got a million views and it was still growing way more maybe two million i don't know but i i felt i

- I felt weird about it. - We felt ill. - I felt really ill about it. - So then we deleted it. - And we deleted it. And it was like, it was that moment where I was like, I don't think I can do this. - But the thing that's kind of crazy about it is that no one in the comments, so people in the comments of like our other videos, they'd be like, this is so fake. And it was frustrating because it wasn't, 'cause it was real. This video, no comments like that, that I remember. And so then I was like,

like, wait. Why is that? That's so wild. Because I've started to think about this more and more because I also keep wondering, I'm like, why do Matt and I keep freaking getting hate? And then it's because when you're posting something that's not perfectly curated, like we're not thinking through everything all the time to be like, oh, this, like you're going to say this and then I'll say this and then I'll do this. Then it's

You're just opening yourself up. Yeah. That's really good. And in the beginning, like we, you know, you're, when you're, when you're a really small creator, like you're desperate, you, you want views cause you want to try to make it work. You want to be successful in it. And so like there's that. And I want to say there might've been like two, maybe three other videos where like, I don't know, like one time Abby pranked me and she like legitimately got me, wasn't recording. She's like, can you just like do that reaction yet? And I did it. And I still felt bad about that. But like, dude, I don't know. Like,

Doing this... The camera was flipped. I remember that. Oh, yeah, you flipped it. It was on your face. Oh.

But like, I really appreciate you saying that though, because it's, it sucks when we'll get someone who says like, oh, they're faking this. And it's like, no, we're not like, these are real genuine videos. These are our lives. And it sucks to me get hate because like, we are so vulnerable. We are so like just ourselves. That's why it was scary to post that cancellation video. Cause it was just, it was just what happened like 100%. And being in like the social media world though, for like the last like four or five years, it's

It's hard to find people like you guys. It's very hard. It's like... I also think that's also could be why you guys get so much hate because you guys stand out heavily with the realness and how genuine you guys actually are. That's nice. And so I just think like...

You're an easy target. You're an easy target. Because you guys are so vulnerable and genuine. Nobody else, I can't say nobody, but you guys, it's just hard to come across people like that out there on social media. Can I say something, dude? I don't think I've ever told you guys this. And I like, Oh my gosh, I'm nervous. When we first met you guys at Disney. Yeah. I thought you guys were so cool. I thought you were so genuine. I really liked you guys. I liked you guys as friends. I thought you were a country singer.

I don't know why, but it was like the pink room you were in and the piano, which now that I've been to your house, I like know where you were. And I was like, man, she just has a pink house in Nashville and she's singing stuff. I don't know why. I think it's the piano too. I'm so sorry. But I really liked you guys and I thought you guys were so cool. But I was like, why are they doing these prank videos that like to me –

They looked staged and they looked and they looked and they looked fake. I don't want to be. Bella keeps looking at me. And you guys have, your content has changed drastically over the past two years. We should talk about that for a second. When we first met you guys, you guys were all in. It was like prank, prank, prank. We haven't posted a prank in over a year. You're kidding. I look back and it's been like a year and four months. Since you posted a prank. We haven't posted a single prank. So yeah, we should talk about that for a second. Did you guys fake those? Like we're like...

Or like if you did, like how much? Like, I don't know. Do you feel comfortable answering that? Honestly, I feel comfortable answering that because we're so far, we haven't done a prank in so long. We, yeah, there was a time in our life where I feel like we were kind of just blinded by the views, like especially with social media and like,

YouTube and you're experiencing growth on these videos like it's so crazy because sometimes videos that you like want to do good and you actually are like being real and raw they don't do good but then you post a prank video and it's a million views so you get blinded for a minute you're like I'm making like money I'm also getting all these views and you just start getting into that world of faking videos and there was a time where we did fake a lot of our videos no like

- We faked every single prank. - Pretty much like every prank that we post on our channel is staged. - And every prank that we participated in was staged. - So with other creators, you're faking these videos and it's just like what you do. - 100%. - I was actually watching a podcast earlier, a different one, and some of these other big creators that were creating content

I don't know, like six or seven years ago, like kind of like the first era of pranks. Yeah. They've all came out and admitted that they were like going on Craigslist and finding like, yeah, like Roman. I want to talk about the Logan Paul one. He made a video where he got colorblind glasses and he goes, he he's colorblind. He puts the colorblind glasses on and he starts sobbing. He's like, I've never seen color like this before. And then he come to find out he didn't see anything differently. It was all fake. And he had made that video. Like you would,

I actually like teared up watching that video. I remember watching that back in the day. I was like, it must be so beautiful like to see the world so differently. And he's like, yeah, I didn't see anything differently. And it was all...

But he got so many views on that video and he even talks about this like I feel like you just get blinded by the money the success the views and I feel really bad about it now like looking back and I am so happy we've evolved into what we're in now we post our Infertility struggles we post our real and raw moments in our life and honestly we haven't even posted that much on YouTube lately because we only post moments when we're like really passionate about it or really happy and Yeah

So yeah, there was a time where we staged everything and I feel really bad about it. I honestly, I have like a guilty conscience when it comes to thinking back to that time. I don't know. It's also like we were taught that way as well. I think when you're surrounded by...

that world, like somehow we got into this like group of couples and creators that that's what they were doing. And so just being around it, I remember when we were like the first week of doing these pranks, I went to ball and I was like, I hate this. Like I'm not an actor. I don't want to stage this stuff. And to like, I feel like,

felt like everybody could tell they were fake anyway. They were so cringy. I'm like, how can people not tell? But for some reason, like a lot of people didn't realize, I guess if you're just not in that space, you don't notice when stuff is staged, but we notice it more now because we are creators and we, we do this. Yeah.

you can spot the bluff you could yeah yeah so i mean we just massively exposed ourselves well have you ever like admitted that we've never ever ever on social media for the first time i'm honestly shaking a little bit thing to like talking about this like i have a little bit of anxiety it's like it's not really that scary because that's i don't i don't regret it like that was our past that was an era it feels like that time was like come and gone how did that feel though when people would like walk up to you be like i watch your videos wait can i get into that

for a second. I remember whenever we would meet someone new and they're like, what do you guys do? I would always have to jump and talk about my business first because I was so embarrassed. I was so scared that they were going to look our channel up and see passing out in my husband's arms or throwing up in front of my husband to get his reaction. I started my period. Cute reaction from husband. Wow, you're going off on me. No, I know, but it's crazy. Back to the fact

the fact that we posted that. I'm like so embarrassed and I remember like looking at Don being like, don't tell him that we do YouTube because they're going to look at our videos. You're joking. You did not want to tell people. I did not want people to know I was so embarrassed and

Yeah, but we were very embarrassed. We were getting so many views and we were making pretty good money from the monetization. And now I'm like, we need to like somehow donate some of that money. Like it just doesn't feel right. Like, and you're just, you're blinded. So you're getting all these views. You're faking, you're faking these pranks. You're getting all these views and like blinding. I'm getting fired up now. I know, I could tell. You need to talk about how we would justify it because that's the most interesting thing.

How did you, wait, yeah. How did you justify that? Well, one, like being around, like I was saying earlier, like being around a bunch of people that were doing that, you kind of just like think it's normal. You feel like it's like everybody else is doing it. So it's fine. Yeah. It's normal. And also like, well, another thing too is like, I was told an analogy of,

like the wwe like that's all fake and that's all acting and it's entertainment it's like a billion dollar industry and like we're just being entertainers we're just being like content creators just fun and it's just fun and games and like i believe that at the time but like looking back on that now that analogy is terrible yeah it doesn't make any sense because these wwe superstars they have a character and being a different person than what they are

But us in these videos, we're the main character. They think that's who we really are. Yeah, and we're acting differently on camera than what we are in person. Yeah. And that's the big issue there. It's crazy how, like, sexual the pranks get, too. Oh, my God. That was such a big issue. Dude, can I say this, too? Like, when you look at some of these fake pranks with, like, couples channels, you'll see, like, moaning ones. Oh, my God.

- Oh my God, don't even go there. - Dude, crying with the door lock? - Don't even go there. - That was a big one. There's like hundreds of like, or not crying with the door locks, cheating with the door lock. Is that what it's called? - Hey, we have never done a cheating prank. - We decided to never do cheating. - And I'm proud to say, I'm proud to say that. - The two things- - We actually had a limit. - There was a limit. We both agreed in the very beginning, we will never do a cheating prank. Just that doesn't feel right to us to do it. - You're married. - Yeah, we're married. Like why would we do that? - So you're faking all these, but you're like, you know what? The fake cheating one, we can't do that. - Yeah, the fake cheating one is not right. - Yeah, I know, right?

I have never I've never said this out loud either but I actually at the time we had this is gonna this sounds so bad but we had someone tell us because there there was a time where maybe we weren't getting as many views we were doing a video and I asked them I'm like why did this one not get as many views and they're like well you need you need to make this more sexual like you need the thumbnail the thumbnail if you want kids to click on this

you need the thumbnail to look more sexual. And so I think what's scary is like, I think people know kids, people like kids, kids, that's what the kids want. That's why they do the cheating. And that's why they do the sexual because kids are watching these prank videos. No adult is watching. That's when I had to like, take a look back at like what we were doing. And I'm like, wait, are we pushing the line? Like, is this going too far?

If kids are like going to be like watching this, like I don't feel good about this anymore. And that's when we vowed we were not going to do pranks anymore. We decided we actually I have to be honest, like we got very inspired by you guys. You were some of the first creators that we saw where we were like, they're so real and genuine. I feel like I could actually cry talking about this because it was so eye opening to finally feel like I had like seen someone who I could look up to in social media and like want to be like.

And I remember telling Dallin, I was like, we need to be like Matt and Abby. Like they're so genuine and so real. And ever since we met you guys, I feel like we have like shifted our content because we've been inspired by you. And now we feel really proud of our content. And you guys should go check out our channel because I'm proud of it.

- I love it. I love that. - I love our videos. - I love this much. It's funny you say that 'cause the creator that did that for me, which like our videos are real, but I was like, I want them to be more. I don't want them just to be real. I want them to like do good. And I'm like, what's the direction we can move in? And Ryan Trahan is a YouTuber that like does good with his videos and he like fundraisers and does all these things. And like, I'm so inspired by that. And I wanna do, like, I wanna have the approach more like this year and for the years to come, like how can we like actually make the world better?

with our videos. And I think like our videos, I bring positivity to the world, but I want to do even more than that. Like how can we like actually see like actual real change? And it's like, that's like my goal is like to bring about like real good change in our world through the content we put out. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You can definitely feel that as well. You can feel it. I think it's like so the, I feel like it's misleading because a lot of content creators don't think that the viewers have a feeling.

Which is funny because it goes in the reverse too. Exactly. Yeah. Like as a viewer, you can feel when someone wants to do good, you can feel the intention that the content creator is putting off. And so when people are doing like these fake pranks or like, I don't know, like

I don't want to do anything specific because then people are going to come at me with like, I'm targeting someone. But like, any sort of video out there that's just a bad intention, the viewer can feel it 100%. And that's why like Bella, like we love your guys' content. We keep saying that, but like we do because it puts off such a good intention, like a good feeling, like good vibes. And there's other creators out there that do the same thing, but they're just minimal. They're hard to find. Yeah. That's really nice of you. That is really nice. I think it's just like scary when it's like talking about kids though, because it's like, I...

I like... I don't know. Like, having a kid, you're kind of like, okay, that's kind of...

- They're so vulnerable on the internet. - I would never let my kid watch those videos. - Those sexual, yeah. - Ever, no. - No, it makes me feel like sick thinking that we were in that world, that we were like surrounded by that. And I feel like it's just wild. We got so blinded and man, looking back, I just, I feel so sad that we got blinded and that was a time in our life, but I'm happy that we got out of it. And now we're like only doing real stuff. And I cannot believe we just talked about that on your podcast. - And to make you feel better,

feel better we've made some horrifying videos and I'm sure people are gonna it was cringy once too cause like in the beginning you're just like you're just trying to grow and you don't know what the freak you're doing and so you you do some like weird trends and like yeah it's like it's not a fake video but it's just like I don't know it's cringy and then you're like wow that's a cringy video that I put out puts you out of your comfort zone a little bit yeah we did some stuff I'm like I wanna delete I should have deleted that a long time ago you just learn as you grow and like I don't know I'm very I

I admire you guys for going through – I mean, I'm sure your viewership dropped. I'm sure when you stopped doing pranks – That was really hard, actually. Like, when Bella and I were like, we are done doing this. I remember we, like, sat down and we're like – We, like, shook hands. We're like, we're never posting a prank again. Never ever again. And then we – it's hard because when you're doing –

content over and over like daily of the same thing it's really hard to shift your mindset and start being like whoa like what do you want to do real and like trying to find video ideas of things to do and when we made that shift our viewership dropped massively we were getting no views on our videos all of a sudden yeah that's the sacrifice we had to make in order to change and now i feel like we've grown a whole new audience so it was worth it and it was 100 it was like six months of like our viewership went from like

like let's say we got 100 000 views we had like 10 000 views like it was like overnight but i also think that's why these couples don't get out of doing these pranks i really believe these couples don't enjoy doing that yeah because a majority of them have come out and said god

We're going to stop doing pranks. It takes a toll on our relationship. Blah, blah, blah. They say that. Yeah. And then Bella and I look at each other like, give it a week. Yeah. And then they post like random videos throughout the week. Their viewership drops. And then within one week, they're right back to posting pranks. Well, I think it's incredibly like manipulative too to like, I don't know, if you're like faking these pranks to then just like try to pretend to be authentic and then go right back into faking pranks. Yeah. That is upsetting. It confuses the viewer, I think. I think even some adults don't realize that like...

Totally. It's not even just kids. Yeah. It's everyone. But like Bella said, we're super proud of our content now. Yeah. We were able to share our whole infertility journey and we went through all of that and we honestly grew an incredible audience. Dude. Like it makes me like want to cry because like when we're at like some of our lowest moments,

our YouTube community lifted us up. I don't know. It was incredible. I don't know what we would have done during our infertility if we didn't have that community. And I think that's also one of the biggest reasons we wanted to start posting videos about our infertility. We actually hid that we were...

struggling to get pregnant for about two years. We didn't tell anybody, not even our family. And then I started feeling so alone. Like I felt like there's no one else out there who understands me. And I, wow, why am I going to cry? But I just remember feeling like if I'm feeling like this, I don't want anyone else to feel like this. Like I want other people to see people posting about this. So I started posting my journey, even though I was so scared out of my mind, like that was the scariest video we've ever posted. I sat there on the couch, just like

We posted that we were struggling with infertility. And then the reaction we got was the best reaction ever. I've never received a reaction like that. And during our first round of IVF, every night I would read the comments and I couldn't find a single mean comment. It was people like, we're cheering you on. You've got this. And I just felt like it was...

Just the best. It was the best community ever. I have chills. That's so cool. It was so worth it to switch our content just for that alone. Just for that, I feel so happy about that. You guys bring so much hope to people seeing that they're not alone. Because I remember you guys telling us about a year ago, and I was shocked.

I was completely shocked. I had never even thought about that. And I just felt horrible for you guys because I know I can't. I don't know. I don't know what that's like. I have not been down that path. You guys don't know what that's like? No. Oh, my gosh. We could just.

We can joke about it. Oh my God. We can joke about it. You guys are the people we don't like. You guys are the worst. We don't like couples like you. Bro. You guys think about a kid and oh, we're pregnant. I think we have the opposite problem maybe. I can't believe I'm saying this. You know what I said like initially which like

When Abby and I lived with the surprise pregnancy at first, I was like, it's so weird that like, like, Dallin and Bella have the opposite problem as us. Like, like, I'm like, what if we just like, I wish we could just like, like snap our fingers and like, boom. Let us get some of that baby dust. Honestly, I'm gonna be honest with you guys. You guys were like the first people I thought about. Like, literally that same day, I was like, Matt, like, what in the world? I was like, why can't, like, this is so, like, why is our world, why is the...

Universe so cruel, you know? Because I'm like, I wanted you guys to be pregnant. Okay, not to say that we're not. No, no, no, no, no. We're so excited. No, of course. Like, so happy for this baby. But like, I was like, why? Like, why? Why is it working out this way? It's wild. It's a surprise for us, but like, I wanted that for you guys. I wanted you guys to be pregnant. You know what I'm saying? It's so wild. Yeah. And I do have to say, like, I don't know if you've ever mentioned this on anything, but you guys were so sweet with how you told us that you were pregnant. Because that's also... We really, really appreciate that. We really appreciated that. Like, I think you guys, like...

I don't, yeah, you don't understand how much it means to me how you told us, you guys texted us and were like, you don't, don't feel the need to respond right now. You got, you could process this. We are pregnant. And I remember reading that. I was like, Dallin, that is so nice that they like, even like thought, like took that, went the extra mile to like write us out the sweetest message and make sure that we were okay when this is such an exciting thing for you guys. And we're so happy for you. What's kind of crazy is that you kind of knew I was pregnant before I told you. Yeah, I knew the whole

way i could tell i knew yeah so we were bouncing how like did you tell dallin after that so this is exactly how like 30 seconds afterwards oh my god why did you splash on my microphone are you okay are you okay are you okay yeah was your head okay you just knocked out your head so hard on my mic stand so what happened was we were filming a video for our friends the scories we were out of balance we've never talked about this i don't think

Yeah. We were at a bounce house and there was a sign. We were about to start filming the video. They're like, okay guys, three, two, one. And right before they said one, Abby looked at Matt. I'm standing right next to Abby. She's like, wait, Matt. And she pointed to this sign on the, there's like this tiny sign on the bounce house. It was like, do not jump if pregnant. And then it also said, do not jump if you have any medical. It gives like all the list of like back injury, whatever. I don't know.

And then you're like, Matt, is it okay? And then Matt looked at you and was like, honey, just take it super easy. Don't push your limits. And then I looked at you.

I looked at Talyn. I said, Matt and Abby are pregnant. And he was like, no, they're not. She probably just, probably because her hernia surgery. Well, you could have your hernia surgery. And so I was like, that's what it is. Like, you're just worried about running, jumping off slides. I was like, no, no, no. I can sniff it from a mile away. She's pregnant. And then, yeah, a couple weeks later, you're like, we're pregnant. Well, it's kind of awkward then because I think I waited like over a month after that. We saw you guys a couple times and I thought you were going to tell us. Well, I kind of thought so too. But then I was like,

Then I was like, no, I don't think, I think it'd be better to text it because I don't want you guys to like react in front of us or like try to feel like, anyway. We would have been, we are so happy for you guys. But then now in hindsight, knowing that you knew at those times and I wasn't telling, I was like, that was probably mean that I wasn't telling you. That was so early. Anyway. We understand. I was just over here overthinking everything. It's like a weird, hard.

hard like awkward situation for like both couples like other people like we have had siblings my siblings like tell us where that they're pregnant and like they feel really bad and we're super happy for them and it's just one of those scenes where it's like we're super happy for them and then we go in our bedroom and cry because we wish it was us no you know yeah but it's like yeah i have to be honest that's why i didn't want to do it in person should i tell them yeah

We're being real here. I don't know what you're about to say. Did I make you cry? After you guys... So we were at the Suns game when we got the text. And... I wish I would've known you were at the game. Dang it. No, it's okay. It's okay. Yeah, I was like sobbing. But it...

It's not because I'm not happy for you. I know, I know. It literally is just like because I've had so many friends tell me lately that they're pregnant and I just like started having a pity party for myself. It's nothing to do... Because I'm very excited. It's not a pity party. I need another baby to love on, really, is the real thing. But like I was...

I was kind of upset. And then I had a pity party for myself for a couple days. And then I was like, you know what? No, this is exciting. I'm very happy. That's brave of you to admit that. But like... I can't believe I just told you that. I didn't want to tell you because I know how you are and you're going to feel bad about that. I'm going to get a text later and you're going to be like, I'm so sorry. Sorry I ruined your son's game. I'm so sorry about that. No, it was... No, see, like Bella, you truly like are the best cheerleader like of a friend. Like not just for me, but like I can see how you love on your friends so genuinely. And so like...

Like you're 100% like throwing parties for things, throwing like you are. I mean, just I mean, just truly the most genuine, incredible friend. So it's like you even saying that, like it's like I know that's hard for you, but like you also are so excited for us and rooting us on, even though even within your difficult journey right now. You made a TikTok about this and you're so right. Like Bella was there when you had your hernia surgery and she came over and made us a meal and like took care of us. Bella was there when we moved into Phoenix.

And you brought us like a blanket and like a little basket with all these little goodies for us. And like, so you were there shortly after Griffin was born to like just hold him while we like did something like I love that. You've just been there so much and like been there for Abby and like, thank you. Thank you so much. And no one knows about it. It's not for show. It's not for show. Like, it's just there's so there's not many people like that. And I'm I'm not that person. Like, I'm horrible at remembering like little details like that. I don't know. Maybe it's my ADHD, but just like.

I can't blame everything on ADHD. But like the fact that you're just always thinking about like, oh, what's a gift I can get Abby? Like, what can I do there? And like, you're just, that's, that's really, really cool. You guys are so nice. I just love you guys.

Yeah, I love you guys. So, why we're really here today. We actually have a reason that we actually got them on the podcast. I'm sweating. The main reason you're here. My heart is like literally beating so fast. We're so excited. You want to tell them your big announcement? We are so excited. They already know. We've already told the world at this point. Oh, the world already knows. The world knows. But right now, at the time we're filming this, nobody knows. Nobody knows it's time to film it. We are going to be parents soon. Yay! Yay!

Let's go. I've never said we're going to be parents, so that's so weird. Oh, my God. How does it sound? You look like you're going to cry, babe. No, I'm not. Oh, I'm so excited for you guys. I've never seen Dallin cry. That sounds really cool to hear. We are adopting a baby. Let's go. I'm so excited.

You look so cute right now. Mom and dad. Mom and dad. This is the craziest thing that we've kept a secret for so long. We have been working on- Well, tell them how long. Five months. It's been five months. We've been working on our adoption papers. We finally submitted them. It's happening. Like, it's happening. We're going to be parents. We have a crib. It's so weird. Like, we're doing this. It's so sweet. We're going to be a dad. You're crying, baby. No, no, I'm not crying. Darling.

No, like it's just really cool. Four years of waiting for this. You know, actually longer. It's been almost five years. Yeah. And it's coming. It was really cool. Our social worker, like someone that walks you through the whole process of adoption was like with infertility. It's like an if. Yeah. If you get pregnant. It's a when. When we have a baby. It's going to happen. And like when she said that, it just like hit me. And it's like more than anything, I'm just ready to see this girl be a mom. I can't wait. Oh my gosh, you guys. He's so cute.

right now it's gonna be so cool like the day that happens it's gonna be the best day ever I don't think I've ever seen you this emotional before no I don't know I've seen Dallin cry two times in our whole marriage this is the third this is insane you're teary eyed right now I've never seen you like this it's gonna be I'm so excited for you you don't know how much this means bro I'm so excited for you this is like this means everything to us we've like

I don't think anyone, unless you've gone through it, understands what it's like to go through infertility and like every month, like taking pregnancy tests and they're negative and like, just like literally just the, it's, it's a lot. And so now it's like weird because we, right now, as we're sitting here, there's a baby that is in someone's tummy that is going to be our baby.

you know, and it's, it's so wild to think about. It's happening. It's happening. It's I'm going to be a mom. Oh my gosh. That's so weird to say. It makes me also. So, we can't do this. We're all going to cry. Time that like you were feeling disappointment, like throughout this, like fertility journey, like your baby was growing, like your baby was here. And it's like, so good. You're going to make me cry too. Yeah. Matt. So beautiful. Like when you think about it, like,

That's amazing. No, the day that you guys told us, Abby for a second was like, wait, like you guys texted us like, are you free to call? And you never do that. It was and Abby was like, you guys are in Hawaii, right? Yeah. I thought you might have been mad at us. We're in Hawaii. We had literally just filmed the podcast episode with Derek and Sarah Beeston. And I was like, wait, what? Are they pregnant? Like I was getting so excited. And then you guys tell us that you're adopting on the call. And I was even more excited.

I was just like, this is the coolest thing. I think adoption is so cool because, yeah, like you guys becoming parents, like so dope. And then this kid like gets a loving home of parents that like really care about them and like love them so much. And you just I don't know. It's so sad when you hear about what happens in the foster care system and like kids that are just like abandoned and just like that's so admirable. And I'm I'm just like really proud of you guys, too, just for like this is really freaking cool.

Yeah. It's... Yeah, it's the craziest thing. I have to tell you how we landed on adoption. Yeah. Because...

And this is, this was like the hardest decision we've ever made, like hardest, but easiest because it's just like when you're in infertility, you just think like, oh, maybe next month will be the month. Maybe next month will be the month. And every time you just get disappointed and let down. And I remember we had just tried to start our third round of IVF. I had done like six days of injections and I was feeling bloated and sick and like all the things that come along with that.

And I was waiting for a blood test to come back from our doctor to see if we could continue doing IVF because your levels have to be in a certain range to keep progressing and doing IVF. And we got the level back and it was the worst one we've ever had. It was, it was like the time that we thought we should be getting the best level. We got the worst.

And me and Dallin just looked at each other. We were both really upset, obviously. I was crying. And I just felt like at that point, I was like, man, a couple days prior to that, I had had a dream.

that I had adopted a baby and I was holding this like adorable little adopted baby and I just in my dream I like knew it was adopted like it kind of like went through the whole story and I just felt like this was my baby and I told Dallin right after waking up from that dream I was like I think we need to like look into adoption and you need to tell like how you felt about that because I think

I think it's hard too because like with infertility a lot of times it is like the woman like sharing their side but it's like you forget that it's like affects the couple like the whole unit. For me like when Bella approached me and said like we need to look into adoption like being completely honest I was like a little against it because I like I'm the type of person I don't like giving up and it felt like giving up and it felt like

Everything else failed and this was like our last option. Yeah, and like I feel like in the infertility world you kind of have like steps It's like we're gonna do this procedure and then this one and then this one and if this one fails We're gonna do this one and adoptions the last thing. Yeah, and so it kind of hit me like oh my gosh We failed at everything. This is our last option. We failed at bringing having our own biological kid and I don't know I just like

I was kind of against it. And I just think like I had to, we ended up talking to like some close friends of ours and they just kind of helped us understand that like, it's not giving up. They had adopted a baby. Yeah. And then they're like, it's not giving up. And it's just could be a shift in plans. And after talking with them, I was like, I got extremely excited. I was like, this is right. Like it all like came together and felt right after just understanding that like,

there's other ways to start a family and grow a family and just changing my mindset a little bit. I was like all on board with that. Yeah. I think, yeah, a lot of times you feel like adoption's giving up, but for us it's like this new hope. I feel like we feel like

There has been a different feeling in our home ever since we started our adoption papers. I truly can say I've never been this happy in my life. I feel like we're just both just beaming all the time because we're so excited. We're setting up a crib together. It feels like a movie, and I don't think it's actually hit me yet. I don't know if it's going to hit me until that baby is in our arms. Yeah.

But we just feel so happy and excited. And we never want our child to feel like they weren't wanted because adoption is such a beautiful thing. And we want this so much. We're so excited to bring home our baby.

A baby, like a real life human baby. That's crazy. It's so wild. I love how on top of it you guys are because like you guys have a crib set up. You guys have like baby clothes. Yeah. Diapers, bottles. You guys are on top of it. You can have me with adoption. You do. We could get a baby. Like the reality of this, you guys, like I don't think this is sunk in for us.

if all things go as planned, like we could have a baby, like if this is, this is like the craziest scenario in like a week, you know? What? A week? Yes, because we could be approved next week. True. That's obviously like the craziest. Wait, wait, wait. Yeah, because when this episode goes out, so a week from now is when this episode is out. So when the episode is out, you could literally be getting a baby any day. I mean, yeah, true. Holy crap. Technically, yes. If everything,

Everything like goes smoothly. We're still like in, we submitted our papers to the state. Which is the last step. It's the very last step. And it takes within 60 days to be approved. And then once you're approved, you could get a baby any day after that. You can match with the birth mother. Yeah. So a lot of people are probably wondering where we are in the process. Like that's where we're waiting for approval from the state. It's the last step. We've done all of our home studies. They send a lady over to your house. She has to be with you for like five hours. She has to interview us. We've done all the fingerprints. Yeah.

all that stuff. And like, we're just once the state says, you guys are good to go. The search begins. Yeah. The crazy thing is like now that we've announced, I'm so curious, like looking back now, what the response is going to be like, I'm wondering if maybe we even find our birth mother through social media. Oh my gosh. You know, like if there's someone out there who is going to put their baby up for adoption and is looking for a loving home,

Oh my gosh, you seriously could. That could happen. And that is what's crazier. That's actually a common thing. Like I have friends, they made a video. They're a couple. They made a video on Facebook, got shared like 100,000 times. And that's how they found their baby. Because if you go through an agency, which we are,

then it is extremely expensive. Very expensive. But if you and their goal is they're out searching and they're looking for birth moms and they're trying to make a match. I will pay anything at this point though. How does that work? Like, do you have to pay? Is it a lump sum payment all at once? Do you have a payment plan? Like, how does that work? Like, that's the weirdest thing to me. It's wild.

So I don't know if there's a payment plan because we haven't gotten to that point. Okay. I'm sure there is because honestly it's like, it's about $40,000 to $50,000 to adopt a kid. And I don't think what people don't understand, it's not just for the baby. Obviously you're not paying that. The thing that makes me feel good about it is you're taking care of the birth mother. I want her to be taken care of. Like she's going to be the most important woman in my entire life. Like I...

I want her to be taken care of. It takes care of her housing, her medical bills, and make sure that her recovery is good. The agencies make sure they do a good job of taking care of her. - Which is very important to us. - And that's what I care about. I want her to be taken care of more than anything. - But if you don't have an agency, and let's say, you guys know of a cousin or a friend that is,

placing a baby for adoption then we're approved from the state we could take any kid that's cool and you guys could connect us and then we just all you do is get a lawyer involved they do the paperwork and that's it so like you've just gotten approved with the state so far or you're about to we're about any moment we can get approved it's like any day now really but you haven't like fully worked with an adoption agency yet because that's what happens if you have we have pay and do all that stuff because the adoption agency takes care of the mom and all

Right. Once you're approved by the state, then you submit your papers to a bunch of different agencies around the United States. We're doing domestic adoption, not international. Yeah, we're working with a couple agencies right now, though. We've been in contact with a couple. Right. So. Yeah. You guys were telling me something freaky about adoption. It was like something about how there's certain countries where people go to adopt and

And there's like literal businesses around like stealing kids from people's homes. And then they like and they sell them, right? Like in other countries like that. That's why we just we didn't want to go. I don't think that's the case for like all. There's just definitely not for all. Yeah, that's just like there's certain countries that we were like looking into where we saw that it was like common. And so we kind of got nervous going the international route.

just because we don't know a whole lot about it. So we just decided to go domestic. And the other thing is too, if you go international, you can't get a newborn baby. Yeah. It's usually like a year or older. Yeah. Because the process takes a lot longer when you go international. And we're pretty set on...

having a newborn baby. Yeah, understandably. We're going to have a newborn baby? It's your first baby. Yeah, like first baby we want. Like it would be really awesome. There's situations where you can even be in the hospital when the birth mom gives birth. Yeah, depending on what she wants. It's all up to her. Oh, really? So the birth mom can decide if you're in the hospital or not? Well, we'll be in the hospital. I meant to say like if we're in the room or not. What they do is they give us a room next to her. Okay. And then she decides where sometimes...

If she's comfortable with it, she lets you in there. And sometimes they let you cut the cord and things like that. Yeah, it's cool. It just depends on what she's comfortable with. Like, I don't know. It's just wild to think... I don't know. That's like our next step is... The whole thing is like, I'm still processing this entire thing. Like, it doesn't feel real. I can picture it so much. Oh, wow. Like, I can just picture you guys holding your baby and...

It's so beautiful. You guys are going to be the most incredible parents. Like, truly. I've seen you guys around kids so much. Like, just there's a lot of babies and little kids. And even just with Griffin. And it just comes so naturally for the two of you. Thank you. And you, like, have some of the biggest hearts. So it's like you're going to just be. I just can't wait to see her be a mom. She deserves it so much. She deserves it. Everything she's gone through of, like, oh, hell. Like, baby.

The lowest of times, she's ready. Yeah. And I commend you guys for sharing like every step of that journey like online. Not that you had to do that, but I think it's been – I mean I personally know people that it's been like such a source of hope and inspiration for and it's extremely vulnerable. Yeah. And it comes with hate too, which is awful. Yeah. Because it's like your weakest spot to like leave that available for people to just stab at is awful. That was one of the worst parts of infertility was –

There was so many people. I don't understand why people feel the need to comment horrible things on people's videos, but...

I got so many comments of people being like, well, this is just a sign that you're not supposed to have kids or well, it's not in your plan to have kids. Like sometimes those would really bother me. Most of the time I would just like brush them off. But like, I just think of the people who are getting those comments who can't handle getting those, receiving those comments. It's just horrible. I just think, unfortunately, the bad is always louder than the good. Oh, 100%. You know, like you get a thousand good comments, but then one bad one and that's the one that stands out. You're right. And you're like, dang it. Like,

You can't forget, like, there are so many people that are so inspired by the content and are going through the same thing that we'd always have to remind each other, like, we can't let this one bad comment ruin, like, the good that you're doing by putting it out there. We've talked about this, too, on, like, actually a recent episode, but, like, the silent followers that, like, never comment, never message, never like anything. So many. That are just, like...

Consuming your content all the time and feel so uplifted by it, but then they just never that was like me I don't sometimes think to comment or anything like that. I don't either I mean I rarely comment on posts ever and especially something as sensitive as infertility like to publicly comment say like I'm going through that too Yeah, that's hard. So it's like I have to know that there's so many people that are just Radio silent, but the more real you are the more the hate comes. Yeah, it's just the reality Yeah, like when we were doing those pranks

there would be times where i would like react and be like nope like right run it back like a little bit better reaction yeah and so it's like when you're being fake you're gonna come off as the perfect genuine amazing person like because everything isn't real it's not how you are but like when

you have a hard day or something and you actually like share and talk about it and you're like open and real with your feelings then that's just like ammo for these people to like prey on with hate it's funny like we really didn't start receiving hate until we switched our content to real content you're joking no now looking back at it we I

I don't ever remember getting any hate comments when we were doing our pranks. When you were faking videos, you were not getting any hate. And every video was getting like 500,000 to a million views. What the freak? That we were faking. So...

that's crazy that's mind-boggling actually i think one of the reasons i think though is because i think it's just like random people who are just watching the trends they're not watching for us like maybe sometimes you well i guess we gain like such a genuine following that like people that love us but like i don't i don't know there's like a bad community surrounding sometimes around infertility people saying yeah horrible things there's a lot of hurt you know it's like they always say hurt people hurt people like if they're struggling with that on their own like they're

currently miserable so then the other thing too that i think about like receiving hate is i have to look at like who it's coming from yeah if it's like tick tock user four six no profile picture no profile picture like don's ugly i'm like i can't let that get to me yeah but when it's like you know like but when it's like people that were like

close to you at one point in your life like i have a 12 minute video on my computer of somebody that was like once was close to us that like slandered our name and was like terrible it's like those type of hate and like videos at some point yeah like those are the ones that are like dang like that gets to you that makes you sad because it's coming from someone that was once in your circle we have a good circle around us right now life's good like it's

it's a good we're just in a good place you gotta find yourself a good people like that good circle yeah you can't let it go like friendship is so important yes and if you're like you become who you're surrounded by and it's just like so important to have

Like you guys in our life and like so many other friends and we just, we're at a good spot. We're at a good spot. Like we're at, we're about to adopt a baby and gosh, that's so like, we're both just trying to be ready to be parents. Like we're trying to do everything to just be like the best person, the best person, people we could be and, and prepare to bring a baby home. And so I feel like that was the most important thing with that is like who you're surrounding yourself with. Who do you want your kids to be around? Because that makes a huge difference. And so I'm excited. You guys are going to be,

Auntie Abby and Uncle Matt. Oh my gosh. Wait, Uncle, that sounds so good. Cousin Griff. We might have a kid before you get birthed. Can we talk about that? I know you guys are going to have a kid before us. I hope you do. Honestly, that would be epic. That would freak me out. That could happen. Oh my gosh. I can't even fathom having a baby. No, like I feel it.

Why do I feel like it too? I feel like it's going to be a girl. You do. I do too. Bella does too. I want it to be a girl. I've already bought. When we, when you fill out your adoption papers, they ask you like no joke, thousands of questions of anything like race, gender, age, all of that. Yeah. And like we said, like with gender, like we're open, like we're pretty open. Yeah. We just want a healthy baby. We just want a

baby. Yeah, we just want a healthy baby. We're open and it's like ultimately it's up to us. We're going to be presented a lot of different situations, options and we decide. That's crazy because yeah, you guys told us that you said any race, any gender. So like it's crazy. Your baby could look like you. It could look just like you or it could look nothing like you. Like you have no idea. That's pretty cool. That's exciting. Yeah.

It does make it really exciting. We're really excited to just like, I'm excited to know who this baby that I like weirdly feel connected. Like I tell, I tell Dallas all the time, like I feel like I miss our baby and I don't even know them yet. It's like a weird feeling, but I'm so ready to meet them and be a mom.

I'm so excited. Something else that a lot of people, sorry, but like a lot of people don't talk about this with adoption, but like I'm actually really excited to meet the birth mother as well. Me too. Like that's a really special person that's going to be in our life. Like because of her, we're able to become parents. The most important person I think in our life. I think a lot of people like skip over that. Like sure, like the baby, it's like going to become ours and that's obviously like

more important i guess you could say but like that birth mother is a very important person to us and someone that like we're gonna forever cherish and be like super grateful for because yeah she's the reason we became the reason that we will be able to be parents so that's really beautiful it's such a special thing and so amazing we have a lot of respect for her we don't we've never met her but we don't know who it is out there like but we love her that must be so hard that's really respectable yeah i can't imagine being in that position yeah neither can i

Do you guys think you'll have a relationship with a birth mother like

like continuing on after this like what do you think that'll look like we've talked a lot about that it's hard because every situation is different you know definitely like know each other like i don't know if they're going to live across the country i don't think i want to talk to her and see how she feels like i want to i think we need to both just come to a mutual agreement and we're pretty open to do we we want it to be an open adoption yeah so we just don't know what that looks like like what amount of openness it is so a lot of birth moms want to

kind of move on. Move forward. Oh yeah, move forward I guess is a better way to put it because it's hard for them. Like they're going to go through like a grieving period. And so it's hard for them as well. And sometimes it's better for them to not have like

a close relationship. They just want updates once a year or... So, I don't know. Every situation is a little different. I think at the end of the day, it's... We're gonna... We just... Whatever... Whatever the birth mother wants. Like, we wanna have a good agreement with her. We're very respectful towards her. We... Yeah, we wanna make her happy for sure. We want her to be happy and...

Yeah, we're excited. Speaking of respect to the birth mom, I've heard that when the baby's born, you have to wait. Is it 72 hours? Yeah. Every state's different. Oh, every state's different. But in the state of Arizona. But the majority of them are 72 hours. Okay. So in the state of Arizona, it's 72 hours that you have to wait until you officially sign the papers, right? I'm terrified of that 72 hours. Yeah. Yeah. Thinking about that is pretty wild. So yeah. I mean, like what happens is the birth mother gives birth. Abby, are you crying? I'm not.

Oh, gosh. It's hard. And for like the way I look at it right now, the more I think about it, because the scary reality is that

we could be presented an opportunity and have a baby for three days and then have to give the baby back. And that will probably be, that would be the most heartbreaking thing of our life. But obviously we want whatever's best for the baby. But the way I've learned to look at it and the way I am going to look at it is like, if I can even like make an impact and love on a baby for three days, then I at least get to like,

be there for that baby for three days and like give them all the love that I can. And if I have to give them back, I'm just going to be praying for that baby. And that baby will still have like an impact in my life forever. So that could happen. But we've been, I feel like we've been through so much already that we're willing to

Put our hearts out there and hope for the best. It's going to be hard. And this whole journey already has been hard. So I'm just praying that now this is like the light at the end of the tunnel. And I'm hoping so bad that we just have like our perfect happy ending. And I'm hoping it's soon. I like, if it happened tomorrow, I would be so excited. I'm so ready. Yeah. That's crazy. You have so many people rooting for you and praying for you guys. Thank you. And...

we can't wait to hold the baby too, but we'll let you get all the snuggles in and we'll see from a distance. I don't know if I'm ever going to let that baby go. Like people are going to be like, can I hold him? I'm like, no, I'll just be cooking dinner in the kitchen. Yeah.

And doing your laundry. I don't even know if I'll be able to hold that baby. Yeah, honestly, no. Can I please have a turn with my kids? Can I say something? Me and Dallin have already started fighting over who's going to take care of the baby more. Dallin is like, I want to get up in the middle of the night. I'm changing every diaper. I'm feeding every bottle. I'm like, what do I do? Well, her work of adopting is Bella's not going to be breastfeeding. So I get to give him a bottle or her. I get to give the baby bottles and...

Bella won't be needed at night. So I get to take that role. And I'm excited for that. I'm taking, I'm doing everything. You're sleeping. You're sleeping for eight hours. That's actually really cool that you guys get to figure that out. Because like for us, naturally, Abby breastfeeds. Right. So for me, like I wake up in the night with Griffin. I get up with Griffin in the morning. I change the diapers.

You know, like it's funny because like our roles are like, it's more like, okay, well, Abby's feeding him. So like I just naturally need to be the one to get up in the night. And we recently started sleeping in separate beds, which was weird. Abby hates sleeping in separate beds, but it's helpful. You like it? Well, I like sleeping in separate beds. He's like, I like it.

I love it. He's like, I get my spring. Actually, I miss sleeping with you. Like, I want to sleep in the same bed, but it's better for your mental health and your sleep. Like, you're getting way better sleep now because I can wake up and go back to bed quicker. It works for you guys. It works for now. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, so that's cool that you guys get to figure that out yourselves and have the best situation however you deem fit. So, yeah. Everyone, go to Dalton

Bella's YouTube, Instagram, TikTok, everything and check it out to follow their infertility journey to adoption. There's so many pages like we we skipped over a lot of things like there's so many chapters you need to catch up on if you haven't seen it. In all seriousness too like this is weird to say but if there is someone out there that knows of someone that's placing a baby on adoption we're open ears like we're actively searching. Is there an email or something they can reach out to or like

How do they get a hold of you? Just reach out to us on Instagram. Send us messages. We'll see them. Yeah, we'll see it. Hey, if you guys have not subscribed or hit the like button or actually just like left us a review on the podcast, that would really mean a lot to us. It'd really help us out. Shout out to at L Madison 24. The title is Silent Follower. She says, I've always been a silent follower. I love this podcast so much. I look forward to it every week. Thank you for being so honest and open. I feel like I'm on the couch with y'all. Like I've really gotten to know y'all.

Again, thank you to Dalton Bell for being on here and we'll see you guys in the next episode. Awesome. Sweet. And as always, three, two, one. Peace out, dudes.