WE'RE PREGNANT!!! (again)
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We're pregnant! Surprise! I know, we are actually crazy. Yes, I'm sure you're shocked. We are too. I don't know, maybe they're not shocked because I feel like some people are starting to catch on a little bit. We've known for almost three months and I'm still shocked. There's still Easter eggs that you've been putting around though, like that sauna

there, I saw a couple people comment. They noticed that. Yes. That's not Griffin. That's actually our new baby who's in the oven. That's our new baby that's in the oven right here. Yes. I can't believe that we're doing this again so soon. What was the other hint that you gave? Oh, man. I feel like

I mean, first of all, the TikTok of me being sick. Yes, all the TikToks of Abby being sick. Abby threw up. That was because she was pregnant. The YouTube videos of me being sick. Abby's been sick in YouTube videos. She's been so sick. And no one was catching on. I wasn't seeing that many comments. I'm like, guys, how are you not catching on? Abby is freaking pregnant. And she was in the first trimester going through so much crap. I felt horrible for you. So I'm sorry. I was going through it. Abby's tough, you guys. She's tough.

Thank you. And, you know, I've seen some pregnant women who like really take it easy and that is totally cool. Like you should take it easy. As you should. As you should. But Abby doesn't. And I'm like, I don't know how the freak she's doing this. Honestly. You're insane. I definitely took it easy the first trimester. But...

know where to start. I mean, this is like so wild that this is happening again so soon. It's definitely not something that we planned. Yeah. Well, I think we need to start back at that first TikTok we made where we took a pregnancy test the first time. No, I think we need to start back before then. Oh, where's that? Without giving too many details. Okay. But let's just say, okay, post Griffin being born. Yes. I wasn't super stoked on...

getting an iud or any type of thing like that abby did not want an iud or any hormonal birth control at all actually because i was like my hormones are still adjusting from this massive hormone shift that takes place when a woman has a baby like when you go from being pregnant to not pregnant just like this like literally within minutes it does a lot to your hormones and i was like i feel like i just need to detox and just like kind of like

let things chill out. So then I was like, hormonal birth control is a no. So then we started using alternative forms of birth control once that six week mark happened. The pullout method. And condoms here and there, you know. We were doing both of those things. But I think that we both knew, obviously, we are adults, you know, we weren't, even though

even though we were shocked when we got pregnant, we weren't absolutely dumbfounded because we know how reproduction works. Please do not get it twisted. Oh my gosh, yes. We know how it works and we knew that the methods that we were using weren't 100% effective. Oh, of course. Pre-Griffin, I had an IUD and post-Griffin, I was like, I just don't want to. That area has had a lot of action recently. Yeah, well, Abby. I needed a break. You had a freaking hernia surgery. That was horrible. Yes, and I had a hernia surgery. I was like, I just don't want.

more medical interventions at this point. So we were using those two methods and without giving much detail, let's just say there were a couple instances. And when I say a couple, I literally mean two. We did it one time unprotected. We know this is what happened. We were like, okay, what, what should we do? We were looking up, you know, information on the internet. Obviously,

When you're breastfeeding, it's not like a form of birth control, but it is fairly, it is very unlikely to get pregnant while you're breastfeeding like early on. Breastfeeding can be used as a form of birth control. It's not 100% effective. It's like 98.5 if it's done perfect. It's called LAM or LAM. Look it up. We were doing it pretty close to perfect because I never got my period. It was still within six months. Yeah.

I was exclusively breastfeeding. But your doctor did tell you, hey, just so you know, make sure that you're using birth control because breastfeeding is not an effective form. The doctor did tell us that. That's what our doctor said. And so we were almost perfect with the birth control usage, but we weren't. Well, that first time we took the test and luckily, you know. No, we have to tell.

to that story. What happened? I don't know what you're talking about. The circumstances around it. You're going to leave out all the details of us being in Disney with my family? Oh my gosh. You got in a big fight with your brother. So Abby, that was the first big red flag. Well, not red flag, but like Abby. That's the first like...

Well, no, no, no. You skipped a step. Honey, the first test you took was negative. The first pregnancy test you took was negative. And we made a TikTok about it. Yes. Like you took a video. That wasn't a lie. That was real. That was instance number one. That was like completely 100% real. Whenever you take a test, it's like if there's a slight chance, you might as well record it so you have the memory saved. And I did and it was negative. And it was all good. And I was very nervous seeing that test because when Abby showed it to me, I thought for sure that she was pregnant. Which is true.

Which would have been fine. And I think that we also need to mention this, that like we knew the methods weren't 100% effective and we were okay with that because we were like, we know we want more kids in the future. This just wasn't the timing that we were planning on. But we're super excited about it now, but we just have to go back to the time that I found out. But being parents is a lot of work. And so like we did not want to get pregnant. We didn't. And so like that, it was honestly a big relief when that first test came back negative. Yeah.

um and we were just i mean that that that was a crazy time it really was yeah and so then fast forward i think it was like two months one or two months and the same it wasn't it wasn't even a month we're talking about like two weeks later dude okay two weeks later that was friendsgiving the the day that we post that tiktok was friendsgiving the day that we had that and then we went home thanksgiving

So we go home to St. Louis. We're spending, we're then spending the holidays with family. We go to Disney World. Okay. We're with Abby's family in Disney. That's where things got really weird because you started to have all these same symptoms that you had back when you were pregnant last year. Not exactly. Like they were,

so faint that I was like convincing myself they weren't real. What do you mean though? Like you smelled onion and you immediately were just like, Oh, I need to get away from that. Yeah. But I feel like I just like convinced myself. I was like, Oh, I just don't think that smells good right now. Like I feel like the early symptoms of pregnancy, you can like the really one early ones, you can really kind of convince yourself aren't real.

I don't know. You had so many. It was food aversions. You were craving Taco Bell. There were so many things that I was like, something's weird. In Disney, I was craving Taco Bell? And the thing is, you still had never gotten your period at that point. You never got your period, which is wild. I haven't had my period since before I got pregnant with Griffin. That is crazy. And now it's going to be another long while. That is crazy. So I remember that day we were at the parks in Disney World.

and you drank a grapefruit beer in Epcot. - I feel sad. - Well, you didn't know, it's okay. - I had no, really no idea. - We weren't trying. - I had a beer, which I have had, that was like the only full beer I've had in my life. - And again, even though breastfeeding is not an effective form of birth control, like it is still unlikely to get pregnant.

And so we just we just did not think for a second that Abby was pregnant not for a second especially with the fact that it's just so And then we went to universal you ride the you rode the Velocicoaster that one was fun. I was on crazy roller coasters Did you do the whole cried - I think you skipped on that one, right? You did a couple roller coasters I skipped on the Hulk because it makes me black out. Yeah, but that was a fun time. It was really fun and

And there was a couple things that had started to happen on that trip that I was like, you know, I just need to be careful and just take a test before we go to the parks again. And I was starting to think about the fact that I had that beer, which is so unlike me. And I obviously spaced it in between feeding Griffin so it was safe for everyone. But it was so unlike me. I was just like, you know, I just need to I just need to make sure. And so we were at Joe's was Joe's Crab Shack. Yeah. With my family.

there's a grocery store nearby. I was like, you know what? I'm going to pop over to the grocery store. Does anyone need anything? And my dad's like, my dad's super protective. Yeah. And he really wanted to go with you. He was like, let me go with you. And I'm like, no, no, no, it's fine. I'm a big girl. I can go by myself. But I think the reason you wanted to go to get a test right then was because I think you didn't like your food or something. Wasn't there an aversion to the food there? No, I was just starving at this point. Oh, it was earlier that day that you had that big aversion to onion, right? I had an aversion to onion and I was like, yes, there's just a couple things.

things I was like what were the other things there were a few things that we were just like that is weird there wasn't much I was just really hungry there was nothing like I remember when you first got pregnant last year we noticed like your poops got really big right away but we couldn't notice that this time around because you were breastfeeding at the time it didn't really show but man like there were there were a couple things I can't think of them right now but there were quite a few things and that's when I told you I was like Abby you need to take a test like we need to figure out if this is actually a pregnancy or not

I feel like it was just I was hungry and I That was it too. Yes. You had insane hunger. You could not stop eating. That was one of them Yeah, so yes, I we were at joe's farm joe's crab shack And I was like, let me roll over my dad's super protective and he was like no No, no, let me go with you and I was like no like I had to like convince him to let me go by myself Because I didn't want him to know what I really needed to get

And I get a pregnancy test. It was like the oddest grocery haul. The person checking me out probably was like, what in the world? I was getting like a case of beers for my dad and brother. Yes. Pregnancy tests. Some like protein drinks. It was a weird...

I was like, please don't ask any questions. And so then. We get home. We get home. And Griffin was so upset that night. Griffin had a hard night. We had been at the parks all day. And the poor kid. He was super tired. He was just exhausted, you know. Yeah. And I think that was another big sign, you know, right before you took the test that it was clear that you were pregnant because you, I think your hormones were just, they were different. And your brother Blake made a comment about. He just.

made a comment. He made a silly joke. Yeah, I was like super emotional. Like I got super angry with him, which is not normal. I don't even think we've had a fight since I was like in high school. Yeah, you do not want to mess around with pregnant ladies. Then I like go up to my room and I'm like sobbing. And I'm like, okay, this feels really dramatic, honestly, for the situation. And I was like, you know, I'm gonna wait till the morning to take this test because that's what they say to do. Like you take a test with your first pee.

of the morning and the next morning that first of all that night I feel like was an awful night of sleep Griffin was having a hard time there was just so many factors that was affecting his sleep it was tough I was exhausted it was probably like six o'clock in the morning and I was like finally like I'm just gonna get up and I go to the bathroom I see the pregnancy test on the counter and I was like I'm just gonna take this it's a miracle I recorded my reaction because that's how convinced I was that I wasn't pregnant I

I mean, we have the video of it. We might show a little bit on the podcast Instagram. I'm playing podcast on Instagram. But the video is honestly really sad. It is a really sad video, honestly. I'm kind of embarrassed to share it. But I'm sure there's mothers out there that can relate. You love your babies so, so much. And we knew we wanted more children. And we just didn't have this timing in mind. So it was...

At the time with everything going on with Griffin, the little sleep, like I wasn't feeling good. I was like, I felt not equipped to enter into a new pregnancy. And so you see the positive pregnancy test. Yeah. And I'm dead asleep. I'd been up super late the night, you know, that night editing. I think I was up till like 3 a.m. editing TikToks and YouTube videos and just trying to freaking like get our content edited while we were at Disney. That was stupid. It made the trip not fun. You rush then to wake me up.

Yeah, like most people I feel like, or at least like content creators usually think of like a cute way to tell. No, everyone does that though. They think of a cute way to tell their husband. So cute. But I was like panicking. And I think that people also can relate to being in this boat and maybe don't have a video of it. But I do have a video of this of me just like dragging Matt into the bathroom. His eyes were like not even open. I was still asleep practically. Yeah.

And what were you feeling in that moment? Dude, I don't even know. I was like, I was like practically sleepwalking. I just remember you being like, Matt, Matt, Matt, come here. And like, get up. Did you have any clue? I had no idea. I didn't even realize. You knew I was going to take the test. I remember you buying the test that night, the night before, but I did not think you were going to take it that morning. Okay. I don't know. It just, it really caught me off guard. So I look at the test. Your reaction literally looks fake in the video. You look like a cartoon. Really? Yeah.

I think I've only seen the video once since that happened. I've only watched it once. But I remember being so shocked. And at first, I kind of was like, is this a joke? But then looking at you, I was like, there's no way. There's absolutely no way. You can't fake those. Yes. And there's, women know, there's like no false positives out there. And I just remember thinking, oh, crap. Yeah.

Honestly. Yeah. I mean, I'm going to be honest with you guys. Like at first it was like the feeling wasn't excitement. I actually have like pictures on my phone. Yeah. I walked out of that room. First of all, I'm just like wide awake then. Like thinking through everything. Like when could this baby possibly be due? How old will Griffin be? What would their age difference be? What's this pregnancy going to be like? Like is the baby okay? I just had a beer. I was on a roller coaster. Like I was freaking out. And then Matt goes back to sleep.

Dude, I slept for like three hours. I was so pissed. I was like, how can he relax right now? Like my world is flipped upside down and he's just asleep. That's what I do. That's my escape. That really is. Like...

What a luxury, honey. I'm sorry. I was exhausted. I couldn't even think. I was like, I'm going to process this later. I'm going back to bed. That's really what I thought. Well, I didn't have that option. And I walk out of the room and I see Matt, like his eyes pretty much closed, laying next to Griffin in the bed. And I take a picture of them because I'm literally looking at that. I'm like, that is ridiculous. Look how I have a tiny baby and yet I'm growing another one in my stomach right now. In my womb. Unreal.

And so I took a picture of the two of them. I was just like, this is insane. I take another pregnancy test because of course I didn't believe it enough. It was also positive, shockingly. And then I'm like, oh my gosh. And then in my head, it took me a long time to kind of just like finally be like, I think I might be pregnant. We went to Hollywood Studios then. Abby, no, you denied it for weeks. For weeks. No, like for...

I don't know if it was like more than two weeks, but it was, it was a while. And that day, that day was rough, dude. That was not a fun day. I feel like it was so hard to process it. We didn't tell our family immediately because we were just like so not processed with processing it ourselves. Like we needed time, the two of us to work through it. I wanted to go to the doctor because I was like, so I was so frazzled. And I was like, I need a medical professional to tell me that this is the case right now. So we just kind of go through the day. I take, I'm like, there's a picture of me at the parks. Just like,

I'm just processing things. And you had a really bad headache that day too, I'm pretty sure. Because you weren't sleeping well. I wasn't sleeping well. Griffin wasn't sleeping well. It was just a mess. And I think that was the sad part about the trip, you guys, to Disney and Universal. Like, we really didn't have fun. Yeah.

There are moments of fun for sure. I feel bad saying that because that's where you should be having some of the most fun with your family. But it just wasn't fun. It was stressful and we were tired and we were trying to take care of our baby. Meanwhile, Abby's growing another baby in her belly and we were in denial about it.

And I think I was just like, I was just kind of scared at that point. It was scary. And you had to quickly come up with a cover for why you weren't riding rides. Because immediately we were just like, I guess that means. My parents and my brother were like, get on this ride with us. Like pushing so hard. They know I love roller coasters, right? So they're like, why aren't you going on your favorite ride? And Abby sends it. Like Abby loves riding roller coasters. No. Hang out with Griffin. Like. Mm-hmm.

Coming up with every excuse in the book. Were you jealous of me because I still rode the rides? I think at that point I couldn't think of any. You shouldn't even care. I was like anything I once liked is out the window. I don't know. I was like feeling dramatic about life. I'm sorry that I didn't like stay back with you. Maybe that was something I should have done. No, it's fine. I was fine. I think I was just wrapping my head around this major life change that was taking place. And so...

We get back home from Disney and we, I like call my doctor and I'm like, I don't know what's happening, but my, I'm taking pregnancy tests and they say positive. Like, I don't know what this could mean. And they're like, well, chances are you're probably pregnant, but you need to come in. And since you've never, because they were asking the date of my last period, which is how they usually determine what week you are in your pregnancy, like how far along you are. And they're like, since you haven't started like your cycle post pregnancy,

Like, you need to come in as soon as you can so we can, like, see how far along you are. Yeah. And because of the circumstances of this second child's conception, I was like, I can tell you the day that this child was conceived. And they're like, okay, great. We'll just verify it at an appointment. What was the day? These are details that the internet doesn't even know. Okay, that's true. That's true. Yeah, we don't need to share that. So, they can probably figure out if they really want to. Yeah, if you really did the math, you could figure it out. But...

Going to the doctor. The doctor comes in. That's actually my practitioner. Nurse practitioner. Who I love. And I feel like I had just seen so recently. To do my six week appointment post having Griffin. And she comes in the room. And she's like. So what's going on? She's like so so nice. And I just immediately start crying. I'm just like.

I don't know what's happening. And I'm just like crying. She's like so calm. She's like, it's going to be just fine. Like lots of women have babies close together and it's like, it's crazy, but they, they never regret it. Like it's the greatest thing. And so she was super reassuring and super kind. And so then I was like, we just have to get like, do this appointment. Yeah. Well, Abby, I think up until that point, you'd really been in denial. I remember.

I remember you using words around me like, yeah, if this baby is actually in my belly and like you were referring to the pregnancy as like a maybe thing. Like as it's probably not actually happening. That's some of the craziest denial I've ever been in my life. You took two pregnancy tests like that. I'm sure it's happened before. I'm sure there's somebody that's taken two and gotten two positives and then it was wrong. But like that must be like one in a million, you know? Yeah.

Yeah, that's some of the craziest denial I've ever been. I don't know. I can't even explain how I was feeling. You totally did. And like you kept, you were so confident in it too. Like you were almost convincing me that you weren't pregnant. I literally was like, yeah, maybe she's probably not honestly. And I was like, what am I saying? I'm like, she took two pregnancy tests. She's 1000% pregnant.

You know? Yeah. So basically they do the appointment. I'm so early on at this point, as I suspected, that they don't hear a heartbeat, but they're like, they don't have a heartbeat until six weeks. Exactly. So you'll need to come back at eight weeks and we'll, you know, do a pregnancy confirmation, a formal pregnancy confirmation. But they did do like an ultrasound up there and they were like, we don't even usually see something, but they did see something. Oh, they did? Yeah. And they also had me take

like a urine sample test that's like really accurate in their office and they're like you have they test your like hcg levels is what it's called to determine if a woman's probably pregnant or not and they're like yeah you have the levels they're all lined up if they were if they were low we'd have you come back in but they're super high so yes we're not even gonna have you come back in and then i was like well do one more thing because i was like i said like the most crazy denial and i was

And I was like, what else can we do? And they were like, we could do a blood work test if you'd like. I was like, yeah, like do it. They took like eight vials of my blood and I was like, yeah, I'm going to be interested to see how this comes back. I didn't even realize they did blood work that time. Yeah, you had to leave for some, no, I had to come in the next day because their lab had closed. That's right. But I think I had to leave with Griffin at,

either that appointment or the next appointment i walk i remember walking griffin for like 30 minutes in the parking lot it was that appointment of the office because you were doing i don't know what was happening but something was going on they were examining my breasts actually oh okay they did a pap smear wait what while i was gone yeah they did both of those all that happened yeah wow they're quick that's crazy but i yeah i literally drove all the our doctor is considerable distance from our house i drove all the way there and back again because i was just

Couldn't believe it. Yeah, the blood work the next morning. The blood work comes back. I think I had to wait like the weekend. And Monday morning it comes back and it's like, yeah, you're pretty much pregnant. They don't confirm a pregnancy until they –

See it and hear the heartbeat. But they were like, yeah, you're pregnant. At that point, we had like six pregnancy tests. Like there were so, there was just so much evidence. Like at that point, there was literally no reason at all to believe that Abby wasn't pregnant. And I think that's when we were like, okay, like this is the reality. And I think we were still both very scared. We were in a daze. We drove around.

For like an hour after that. I remember that. Yes. And you remember where we went? Because we had to go to our Airbnb, right? Then we have to go to our Airbnb and check on it. But then after that, we went to your brother's house. Yes. Oh my gosh. Where there's a really fun twist to the story. That gets wild. Do you want to tell it or do you want me to tell it? You can tell it. So we get to my brother and sister-in-law's house. We haven't seen them in a few weeks, I believe. Immediately after the doctor's appointment. Yes. Like literally right after the doctor's appointment. Right.

And we get in there and pretty much right away, my sister-in-law is like, hey, can I hold Griffin for a little bit? And we're like, yeah. She's like, I have a really cute Christmas outfit. I want to put him in. Yeah. So then she goes up to their bedroom and she's putting Griffin in this Christmas outfit and she comes down and

And we, I immediately almost started laughing. Like I was, I was just so shocked because Griffin was in a cousin onesie. Immediately. We were like, so excited for them. Of course. So excited because I know I knew like seeing them seeing us have a baby. I knew they're like, man, like that'll be so cool. Cause I,

We had the first grandchild of both sides of our families. All of our grandparents and parents were just so stoked for Griffin. And so I think they're like, man, that's really fun. Let's have a baby too. So yeah, they tell us and we're excited for them.

But then I'm like, oh, my gosh, I did not even think at that point that we were going to tell anybody for a very long time. But knowing that they were pregnant, I was like, we got to tell them. It was just too exciting not to. So I made a split second decision. I pull out my phone and I'm like, hey, let me take your picture with Abby. And fun fact, my sister-in-law is also named Abby. So not just Abby, Abby Howard, Abby Howard. There's two Abby Howard's in our family, literally the same name.

And so it's my brother, Caleb, my sister-in-law, Abby, and my wife, Abby, all in this photo with Griffin. And I say, all right, three, two, one, say Abby's pregnant. Which they had just announced that Abby was pregnant. And they go, Abby's pregnant. And it's like quiet for a second. What were you thinking? And I'm like...

Abby Elizabeth Howard's pregnant. And then they're like, no way. And we just all went crazy. It was really exciting. We went crazy. And I think that's where things started to first turn for us, where the shock was definitely still there, but it was wearing off a little bit. And it was really turning into excitement and feeling like,

while this baby wasn't planned and came sooner than we had anticipated, like it was really such a blessing. And we were so excited to go through this journey again, however rough the first trimester can be. And so, yeah, that's when it started to change and it really started to become more exciting and

And comfortable in our eyes. I was stoked. As we were telling family. When they told us like that was like a night and day shift for me. Yeah. I was so excited. Yeah. And then I started to be like, wait a second. Griffin's going to have a sibling that's 13 months apart from him. Like how cool. They're practically twins. You know what I'm saying? We hadn't even gotten to that yet. What do you mean? Their age is different. Oh. But yeah. That's right. I think that was another appointment later on. Yeah. So.

We go back for Christmas and we're like, okay, we got to tell family then. Even though we were still pretty early. Yeah. It was like, we're not going to see them for a while. We want to tell them in person. And how fun would it be to tell them with our brother and sister-in-law that we're also expecting. Oh, totally. It was just going to be like the greatest surprise for the family. Not that we want to steal their thunder or anything. Yeah.

Which I kind of did feel a little bit bad about. I was like, maybe we are stealing their thunder. No, yeah, we definitely didn't want to. So we were trying to navigate that. But what we ended up doing is we had them announce first. Everyone freaked out. And then we announced second. And then people freaked out again. Actually, I think they freaked out even more because they're like, you're pregnant together. No, but Caleb and Abby are so gracious. Oh, yeah. And like, not that...

not like that at all. So I wasn't really worried about that, but it did cross my mind. Yeah. But we didn't even really tell many friends. I mean, there's still right now as we're speaking, there's a ton of friends that don't even know me need to go tell them because. Well, they know now. Yeah. We have some friends. Because this is being filmed. That's true. You guys are watching this. When you're watching this, we filmed this two weeks ago. So fun fact. So yeah. But we go back and we tell family. And I think my favorite reaction personally was your grandma Sharon finding out. Aww.

She was, your mom was really smart because Matt's mom told her, he was like, she was like, make sure that grandma Sharon is sitting down for this announcement because it's going to be a lot. Oh my gosh. And so,

So I don't know, Matt, your family is like the most joyful people. And so they were so excited. And your grandma, man, I thought she was going to have a hard time. I love my grandma. She is the sweetest lady. And she still sends us cards. She'll send us gift cards in the mail. Your grandma always sends me Starbucks gift cards. Starbucks gift cards. And then she sent me a Cheesecake Factory gift card because that's where we go for our date nights. And what was really... She just sent us an Uber Eats gift card.

gift card no she's the greatest oh thanks grandma not just because of her gift cards no oh my gosh she's just so sweet most thoughtful person so thoughtful and we're not we're horrible at gift giving we're so bad we do need to get better at that but what's funny you skipped the part though we surprised my parents on christmas morning with the news right wasn't it christmas morning no it wasn't

Oh, that's right. We had to do it after Christmas because my brother came in late. Yes. Yes. So my brother and sister-in-law came in for Christmas late. And so we waited until they were there at my parents' house. And we had our own Christmas morning on like December 29th. 27th or something. 27th, one of those days. It was the 28th, I think. The 28th. And I think what, yeah, what they ended up doing was they gave my parents, was it the Cousin Onesie? Is that what they did? They gave your parents the Cousin Onesie. They're like, this is,

This is your Christmas gift. This is your Christmas gift. They didn't even give any context. And then. Yes. Then you want to say what happened next? Yes. And then what happened next is we had a big brother onesie for Griffin. Which might I add is very difficult to find a six month old onesie. Yes. That says big brother. They're all say little brother.

Oh, 100%. They make them. You can get them on Amazon. We vlogged all this, by the way. So I'm really excited for you guys to watch the vlog. I think we'll be posting that soon. Because just to live that and record that was really cool. I really tried to just be in the moment as we shared all this with them. Because it's hard. You want to document all those special moments. But you don't want to be so about documenting it that you don't live in the moment. But anyway, we set up our camera. We're like, all right, let's take a picture. And we get everyone together. I feel like I'm going to die.

I feel like it was really thrown together because we were just so excited. Oh, yes. So nervous. We waited so long. And then we hit them with the news and everyone went wild. It was really exciting. And my dad started to cry. My dad always cries. He's such an emotional guy. He's so excited. I think he's really, really hoping for a girl. Yeah, he really does. From at least one of us. I think we're having a boy. I don't know. We'll see. Anyway, so he starts to cry. I'm not even crying in...

I don't know. I didn't inherit that gene from my dad. I'm like my mom. My mom's an engineer. She got her bachelor's in...

civil engineering. She's a very smart lady and she's like super just like she's a boss woman. She's I don't know. She's not very emotional and either am I. So anyway, my dad's crying and it was just a really special moment. Your brother Josh was so sweet too. Just like giving the biggest hugs. Your mom was clapping and jumped. She probably did one of her classic high kicks. Yes. It was a great time. And then we told my family who my parents poor things.

Yeah. I think...

pregnancy, like experiencing your daughter being pregnant is a stressful thing because you're like, this is about to be really tough for them. There's a lot of things that can happen. And they just seen me go through a lot. And I don't think they were quite ready to see it happen again so soon. They love being grandparents, though. So they really were excited. But I think they were just shocked. It can be scary, though. And there's people that have really scary pregnancies and there can be different complications. And we've been so blessed so

so far to have no issues with this pregnancy or the pregnancy before with Griffin. So we've just been so, so thankful for that. Yeah, there, there is a lot of risk. And I think there's so many people get, have a miscarriage and people just don't talk about it. I think people are slowly starting to talk about that more and more. I think back in the day, people either didn't realize that they did, or if they did, they didn't want to share about it. They wanted to keep it private and they wanted to try to be all happy and, you know,

Put on not a show, but just not bring the mood down. It's just not comfortable to talk about. It can almost make it worse to have to just talk about it all the time rather than just kind of move on. Deal with it within your circle. But anyway, so we tell my parents and they're super excited, but also shocked. Tell my grandparents and everyone was just...

What's the age difference going to be between these two kids? What stunk is we missed my family's big Christmas party because they bumped it back. They bumped it back thinking that we could all be together, but they didn't realize that Abby and I were going to be out of town for New Year's. Yeah. So we were out of town with Abby's family. And so we FaceTimed in for the big family Christmas party when my brother and his wife told the whole extended family. Yeah, whole like big extended family that they were pregnant. And then on the FaceTime call, we're like, wait, what? That's crazy because we're pregnant too. Like we didn't know. Everyone freaked out.

Yeah. It was so cool. Very fun. Yeah. So, so cool. Telling family definitely started to like get it settling into our heads more. And at this point, I was starting to feel sick too. Oh. So I was like, if we don't tell family soon, they're going to find out because I started to throw up. I started to hardly eat anything. Well, there was that TikTok, Abby, where you – I remember being woken up in the middle of the night. Yeah.

where you just, you were like, Matt, Matt, I need you. And I'm like, what, what's going on? You're like, I think I'm going to throw up. And so like, I was hardly. If I get up like to go to the toilet, I'm going to throw up. Yes. And so I was basically trying to get you to get a trash can as soon as you could, but you were so tired. But I sprinted though. Like the second you were like, I was like, do you need a trash can? And you said yes. And I sprint to the bathroom. And right as I get up, you just started puking all over the carpet. Projectile.

Oh, it was so, it was so sad. And so I grabbed that trash can. I will never eat lasagna again. Oh my gosh. Mark my words. Yeah. Yeah. And you broke blood vessels. I can't, I can't vomit like a normal person. And I didn't know how to clean up vomit off the carpet. My dad always did that for me when I was a kid. Um, my dad's the sweetest man. He's just, yeah, such a great dad, but I had never cleaned up puke before. So I was like Googling how to do this. You cleaned up my puke the first pregnancy. Yeah.

Oh, you're right. Oh my gosh. I scooped it out of the sink. Yeah, you don't need to give details. Okay, we don't need to give details of that. Anyway, so actually, I guess I have cleaned up puke before, but never out of the carpet. So that was a learning experience for me, which I looked up how to do it on YouTube. And I think that shows my age because people are now looking up how to do things on TikTok, which is like way faster. Oh yeah, you're such an old man. I'm such an old man. Anyway, but we figured it out. Well, Matt was cleaning it up and I was feeling so sick because...

Like I said, I can't really throw up like a normal person. Like I literally have the most violent vomiting experiences. Not to be disgusting, but like it breaks blood vessels in my face, my neck, my eyeballs. And like I just had so much acidity in my throat. I thought I was going to throw up again and I did. It just kept happening that night. Yeah.

And then after that, like everyone for the holidays wants to make the classic Christmas ham. Oh my gosh. And ham is a massive aversion for me when I'm pregnant. It was with Griffin too. And so I'm like, I'm not eating any of that. The only thing I want to eat is bread and I don't even really want to eat that. Like I was being super picky, which is also not like me. I will eat any food.

Yes. And so I was like, if we don't tell them, they're going to find out. And that happened before we told them. All of the throw up and the being sick thing. So I thought they would be more on to us. Oh, for sure. But since it was so soon, I don't even think their brains went there. They had no idea. I think they were suspecting my brother. They were suspecting him and Abby to be pregnant, but they did not for a second think that we were. And either did we. Either did we. We were still in shock. I'm still in shock, dude. I'm still so confused. My mind is slowly wrapping around it. It's crazy. Because I...

I have to process it because it's happening currently to me. Yes. I feel like this pregnancy has been textbook like the pregnancy with Griffin. Yeah. Like I have the same things that are giving me aversions. I have the same like loss of appetite. Yeah. The same nausea, headache, fatigue, all that is the same. But it's now that I'm like about 12 weeks pregnant.

Totally. I'm starting to get over that. And which is like the same timeline. Totally. So it's been, yeah, it's been difficult, like figuring out things that Abby can eat. We've been, we've been doing a lot of takeout. We've been, we've been just like getting literally whatever just sounds good in the moment to Abby. Like I, and what stinks too is like something will sound good to her. And then like 45 minutes later, boom, it's gone. You can't get that.

It no longer is a craving for her. So it's not really, I don't really feel like I get cravings. I just like in an instant, I think of something that I could possibly eat. And today that was Krispy Kreme donuts. Today I did actually kind of have a craving though. I was like, I really want Krispy Kreme. That was a great idea, babe. Which the last time that we had Krispy Kreme was literally when I was pregnant with Griffin. And they were free too. We got some free ones.

Which is very nice. Maybe the hot light was on. I don't think it was because they were not hot. I think what happened is I think the girl working saw us recording and then she was smiling really big. And I think she might watch our videos because then she just gave us a bunch of redonuts. She was so nice. Or maybe she was just a super nice person and didn't even know who the heck we were. I ate two donuts. Yeah. Had a sugar high. They were so good. Yeah. That was really nice. But...

Yeah. I'm starting to finally get out of the sicky first trimester, which I'm really grateful for because some people are pregnant or are pregnant the entire time, are nauseous the entire time and vomiting the entire time and like need to get IVs. And that sounds miserable. And those women are warriors. But...

It's funny though, because I would never, I would have never thought I would be saying this, but I really do think we have the best years ahead of us. I really do. I mean, we're going to have two kids so close in age. They're going to be such best buds. I think it's going to be another boy. I think they're going to be, you know, just such good buddies. And hey, if it's a girl, that's going to be so exciting too. It's amazing. Yeah. I don't care. I'm just excited for a baby. And you know, I don't know.

Just I'm really looking forward to those years, especially recently going to Disney World. It'll be cool to take them there. Universal on trips. We love traveling and I want to show our kids the world. It's going to be so fun. And obviously it's going to be extremely challenging having a 13 month old and a newborn at the same time. But I can also recognize that we are like incredibly blessed to have the freedom that we have to both be able to parent and

at home the whole day and um you know we have such a great support system which means everything i know that a lot of women and maybe single dads too don't have that and that is

That's so tough. Yeah. My heart goes out to you. 100%. Yeah. I feel so blessed. But then also I'm starting to like finally just be so excited for this little life that we're about to welcome. And it's going to come so soon. I feel like the second pregnancy is going to fly by. Uh-huh. And it's just going to be. Also, this is why I've been crying a lot recently in our past two podcast episodes. My hormones are raging.

I'm shocked. I don't think you've cried in this episode yet. Oh, it could come still. I thought for sure you'd cry in this episode. Because I think that we've only been talking about the stressful side of things. And now things have flipped where I just like feel so grateful. It's the happy things that make you feel the emotions. Yes. Yeah. Like I get to feel, I feel like it's such a blessing just to get to...

You know, do this crazy thing again. Selfishly, I'm really looking forward to having more time with Griffin. I know Matt keeps saying this. I am so stoked. Griffin has just matured so much and he knows who I am now. He can tell the difference between... He prefers Matt, honestly. And we're just best buds. He's laying his little head on my shoulder and we just cuddle and I just... He glows when you see him.

And recently we had babysitters bail on us to where we I had to just like screw it. I couldn't work. I couldn't edit. I had to just like push all that to the side and, you know, have a lot more time with Griffin. And we've had so many good times together recently. I'm I'm looking forward to having even more of that as you have to, you know, breastfeed this new baby. But when the newborn baby is going to like need me, obviously more than Matt and I.

Matt at the beginning because I'm probably going to breastfeed this baby also. And so therefore that just requires a lot more of my attention than Matt. So then Matt thinks he's going to just take over Griffin duty. Griffin's going to be my buddy. And, uh, by the way, when we say Griffin duty, we've always said that. Like if Abby goes, if I work out, Abby's on Griffin duty. If I work out, yeah. Matt's on Griffin duty. That's just how we call it. Because we, we, we're,

we tag team like when we're both at the house no one's on if i take a shower i'm like you're on griffin duty yeah no one like at the house we we just like tag team we work together as a unit but when one of us is gone then the person that's at the house alone with griffin is on griffin duty because there's no handing him off like you're you're you know always watching that kid and that's why i have so much respect for single parents out there because no break oh my gosh they're incredible like seriously i don't know how single parents do it that's just insane they're superheroes yeah

It's literally going to be so wild, Matt. I don't think we have any clue what we're in for. If you have two children close in age, please send tips and maybe some encouragement. We don't need any discouragement because we really are excited for this new edition. It's going to be such a whirlwind. I feel like I'm already starting to get a little bummed, which they do say comes a lot faster with your second. Yes, well, I can already tell. I mean, I think it definitely is coming faster than it did before. It is coming faster and...

It's just crazy. I'm going to be huge again. I was literally going through my closet and looking at all of my maternity clothes with Griffin. I was like, wow, I'm going to be wearing those again. How are you breastfeeding right now? How are you doing that? It is a lot to be nursing while pregnant. I will tell you that. I feel like it's just sucking my energy out of me daily. But I'm just going to keep nursing because I've looked into it and I think you're good to go as long as this baby still continues to grow as healthy and strong as possible.

he or she has. Until that point, I'll probably continue. And Griffin's still eating great or nursing great. So I'm like, we'll just keep this up until further notice. Hey, I'm really proud of you. I really am. The way you've approached this whole thing, you've shown so much maturity. You've been so brave. You've been so bold.

And I know that you were so looking forward to like getting back into CrossFit and getting back into doing all the things that you wanted to do before you were pregnant and it crushed you that you weren't able to do that. And I'm just selfishly at first, at first, but just like the, I wanted to get in my strong phase again. No, but like the new way that you've approached this whole thing has been really cool to see. And it just shows how good of a mom you are and how selfless you are. Really? That's really sweet. Yeah. We are so grateful.

for this new baby and we are so so excited and we don't think that this is a mistake at all um of course it is unplanned it is an accident i mean it was it was accident sounds

It sounds so bad, but I mean, it really was. Accidents can turn into a really good thing. And that's totally what happened. I am so excited. Maybe an accident, but not a mistake. How about that? Exactly. Exactly. Yeah. I'm really looking forward to this. And I really do think that our best years are ahead of us. This was how our family was meant to grow. And it's going to be really beautiful. Yeah. And we're just continuing to hope for a healthy pregnancy, a healthy baby. Yes. And if you haven't subscribed to the podcast, do that right now. Hit the bell for post notifications. Hit the like button. It really would mean a lot to us.

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Yeah, we are. We are. So be looking forward to that. Yeah. So thanks for tuning in to episode three. I feel so good to have this secret.

into the world. Oh my gosh, this is so exciting. And we have so many fun videos coming, including telling our family that we're pregnant, telling our friends that we're pregnant, the actual video of us finding out too. You're going to want to see that one because it's great. It's not your typical pregnancy test video. That's very vulnerable of you too. Yeah, we'll see what I think of it. I'm going to review it again before we share it, but you'll probably see it because we always overshare. Thank you for watching this. And as always, three dudes.