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Exhibits 35 and 36

2024/5/7
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Prosecuting Donald Trump

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Andrew Weissmann认为Hope Hicks的证词对检方有利,她提供了关键信息,填补了案件中的重要空白。他认为辩方试图淡化Michael Cohen的不良品行,但这些恰恰可以反过来支持检方论点。他强调了文件证据的重要性,证明了Cohen对Hicks关于未告知任何人的说法是虚假的。他还进行了简短的总结陈词,论证了Weisselberg不可能在未告知Trump的情况下进行这些付款。 Mary McCord认为Hope Hicks是一位可信的证人,因为她与特朗普关系密切,但没有个人恩怨。她详细分析了Hicks证词中关于特朗普意图和动机的部分,以及其证词如何解释特朗普在2018年得知“封口费”事件后,认为此事在选举后曝光是件好事。她还讨论了混合动机的问题,指出即使特朗普也有保护妻子的动机,这并不构成法律辩护。她详细分析了Jeff McConney和Deb Tarasoff的证词,以及展品35和36如何证明虚假商业记录的制作过程,以及这些记录是如何被伪造的,并解释了这些证据如何证明特朗普知情。她还讨论了法官Merchan对特朗普禁言令违规行为的裁决,以及法官Cannon对佛罗里达州机密文件案SEPA文件截止日期的暂时推迟。

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Hope Hicks' testimony provided key insights into Donald Trump's awareness of the hush money payments made to Stormy Daniels, highlighting his acknowledgment of the payments and their timing.

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As witness testimony continues today with Stormy Daniels in Donald Trump’s New York criminal trial, jurors also recently heard from former Trump advisor Hope Hicks and longtime Trump Organization controller Jeff McConney. After trading some testimony takeaways, veteran prosecutors Andrew Weissmann and Mary McCord get nerdy on the significance of exhibits 35 and 36. Plus, Judge Merchan gives a sober warning to Mr. Trump as he rules on another gag order violation. And an update on the Florida classified documents case.

For further reading: Here are exhibits 35) and 36) that Andrew and Mary refer to in this episode.