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Immunity Denied

2023/12/4
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Prosecuting Donald Trump

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Andrew Weissmann: 本期节目讨论了近期两起关于总统豁免权的重要判决。法官Chutkan在刑事案件中裁定,前总统在联邦刑事指控中不享有总统豁免权,这一裁决具有历史意义,因为它明确指出总统豁免权不适用于联邦层面的前总统刑事指控,即使这些行为是在总统任期内发生的。法官Chutkan的判决基于对宪法文本、历史先例和司法原则的深入分析,驳斥了被告关于总统豁免权和弹劾条款的论点。她认为,总统的职责是执行法律,而不是违反法律,总统故意犯罪不应被视为其职责的一部分。她还引用了乔治·华盛顿的告诫,强调阻挠法律执行的行为会破坏民主原则。 Andrew Weissmann进一步指出,总统豁免权不具有永久性,只在总统任职期间有效。他认为法官Chutkan的判决具有重要的象征意义,它表明即使是前总统,也必须对自己的行为负责。 Mary McCord: 华盛顿特区巡回法院在民事案件中也做出了类似的裁决,该法院认为,特朗普在煽动叛乱方面的行为不属于其总统职责范围,因此不享有豁免权。法院驳回了特朗普及其原告的论点,认为应根据其行为的性质而非其身份来判断总统豁免权的适用性。法院认为,总统在竞选期间的行为不属于其官方职责范围,无论总统是否在任,其竞选行为都不属于官方行为。 Mary McCord还讨论了布雷迪动议,该动议要求检方在审判前移交所有可能对被告有利的证据。她指出,检方有义务主动搜寻并移交所有可能对被告有利的证据,以确保公平公正的审判。她认为,特朗普的布雷迪动议中,关于检方团队范围的论点有一定道理,但其要求披露的信息范围过广,其中许多信息与案件无关。她认为,特朗普试图通过扩大检方团队的范围来拖延诉讼进程。

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The podcast discusses recent legal rulings against Donald Trump's claims of presidential immunity, focusing on both criminal and civil cases. The hosts analyze the decisions and their potential impact on Trump's legal status and future.

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In what could be his most consequential legal defeat yet, a federal judge rejects Donald Trump’s claims of presidential immunity in his 2020 election case. MSNBC legal analysts Andrew Weissmann and Mary McCord break down what this – and a similar ruling in a parallel civil case --could mean for the ex-president. Plus, they'll talk GA where Trump’s lawyers say he shouldn’t be tried until 2029 if he wins next year’s election.