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I am here with your favorite girls, Julie Goldman, Brandi Howard. Welcome back to Juicy Scoop, girls. It's fun to be back. I know you guys like to watch on YouTube, and you better be subscribed, you better like, you better share, because it's extra work, and because we're showing our bodies in this new studio. Ugh.

And Julie has a new updo and new much hipper glass frames. The glasses are very cute. Thank you. Brandy got them for me. Thank you. And I'm wearing my Gucci tennis shoes that Brandy and Julie got me. Yeah, I mean, the brainchild. You're welcome. She's a good gift giver. She's an excellent, excellent taste. Excellent taste. We're excited for Julie, too.

move out of her Rachel Maddow era, I'm going to say it's Mel Robbins to me. So if someone wants to wear Mel Robbins eyeglass wear, let them. But if someone buys you a new cuter shape, let her. Let her. Let her. You know what? Don't be afraid. Let her. Let her. Let her. Well, Heather, I mean, honestly, those look so good on you. My shoes. Yeah. I'm so excited. I'll be wearing these to the Masters.

Where does the Masters take place? Augusto. So I'm going to stop by. I'm having lunch with Sutton's mom. That's right.

Just ask her what she really thinks of Garcelle. And yeah, I'm going to be there. We're going, I'm excited. I have all my green outfits. They're very strict about the phone. So I guess I'll just do a photo before and then just talk about it on Patreon that weekend and everything else. And just look for the rich people. I feel like all I'm going to be seeing is the families from White Lotus. And you just watch the golf and eat and drink.

But let's get into Real Housewives. Okay. Because there's a lot to discuss, girls. First of all, the last episode, I didn't feature this. This was... It's amazing. This was the last photo of Sutton that Drunk Drawn did. However, I got it because it really was the last... That's what they do when they do their little, like, what they're up to. Yes. And someone was like, they really... Like, the editors really did her dirty. They did. And...

You know, she has an interesting figure and so do I. So like on the wrong angle, it could be, it's can be alarming. And I mean, we all talk about who the fuck, what if I made you guys come on a girl's weekend, which we like to do in La Quinta. And I go, yeah, I need you guys to all wear G-string bikinis and feathers. That you drop by the casita. Yeah.

Yeah. Or otherwise known as the Julie Brandy guest room, right? And you just leave it in the gift bag. Here's what you're wearing to the party tonight. Not even just, but to dinner. But to dinner. You have to sit at a table. And eat. And eat. And eat and fight. And then an hour later. And then we're going to go to the red barn and then we're going to the nest. All in the feathers. So get ready for what a fun, relaxing girls trip, everyone. Fun and relaxing.

I don't want to say this because it's just going to get me into a world of hurt. But when, at first glance, in this outfit, it did look like she had on leg braces. I know. Like, it just did. And I was shocked. I said, oh my gosh. When did she develop polio? Yes, like...

I've had polio as a child that sometimes comes back when I'm on a disturbing girls trip where I have been beaten to death. How much more can I take? It must have been that small esophagus too. It's like you're eating and then it just blows the legs out. She's a ballet dancer. Look, she has a good body. She's 50. She's thin. But just this outfit and the angle and that they freeze framed it. It's like, fuck.

Fuck you. Like, I feel like, really, editors? Really? Like, you know? Really. That was just done on purpose. So let's get into...

Oh, also, Lisa Renner, before we go, she did a podcast and she said it was the fans who villainized her. That's why she left the show. It wasn't Bravo executives. It wasn't Andy. And it wasn't the women in whom she was seen fighting with. Right. It was just the fans probably booing her on Bravo stage and just being relentless. She probably crawled into bed after Harry made his sauce. Yeah.

And in her free people sweats and just got and read every comment and that just did her in. And you can't read the comments. I mean, I'm sure it wasn't, it wasn't, Ooh, you're angry. Yeah, I know. It wasn't that. Like she did so angry. Yeah.

So angry, so angry. And listen, Lisa Rinna is at this point, I mean, she's iconic. She's having a making a whole other world for herself. She is having the last laugh. She is doing it. She is living it. She is killing it. She is crushing it. She's nailing it. But I mean, at the end of the day, I've been saying for weeks, I think she's going to come back.

I think she will come back. Well, I was going to do something where they're going to like show like heels walking. Oh, good one. Yeah. Close up. And then it's going to kind of be like, what are you bitches up to? Right. You know, something like that. They do the horrific. That's good. The bitch is back in town. And you're like, her, her. And they open the door and everyone's like, Oh,

I don't know. I hope she comes back. I will say like via the Denise Richards show, which maybe we'll discuss. Yes. We, Julie and I watched the old episodes of Beverly Hills, like in like a weekend. Like, I mean the old season weekend we watched. Yeah. Like, like,

Six seasons. Oh, so good. And it was really disturbing to see Lisa Rinna's trajectory. Yes. Oh, interesting. You know, between how she... What she did to Denise, people really didn't like that, and then what she did to... To remind people what she did to Denise is that she...

Basically put it out there and made it that she was trying to get footage edited that would have incriminated her for having a rendezvous with Brandi Glanville while she was filming a movie for Hallmark. And there was a little, you know, whatever, a little lesbian fun happening. And...

They got Brandy to say it, not you. They got Brandy Glanville to say it, which she wasn't even a cast member at the time. They got her to say it on camera. And then it was like, when is she going to come clean with this? When is she going to come clean with this?

Which, the hypocrisy now, when I think about Morgan and Kyle, I'm like, oh my God. Unreal. Unreal. But continue. And that was her good friend. Yeah. They had done movies. They were close. You can see Denise.

who still retains that like innocent sort of ingenue. Somehow reality TV is not changing her or affecting her, but she, at this point, by the time Lisa Rinna's into this game with her, she's wearing long Kardashian wigs. Yes. She's doing lips on top of lips. Yeah. It's,

It's so crazy. She has changed so much. And then after that, then the Kathy Hilton thing starts and the fans did turn on her. Oh, let's remind us of the Kathy Hilton. That was when they went to Aspen and off camera, Kathy Hilton didn't like that they wouldn't play Michael Jackson at the Caribou Club in Aspen. And she got angry and...

went home in a Sprinter van alone with Lisa Renna with no cameras, no voice memo on the phone, and then came back and Lisa Renna said that she...

Freaked out that Lisa feared for her life and that Kathy spoke poorly of Kyle and Mauricio and that she even broke her own eyeglasses. Smashed her eyeglasses on the ground. Yeah. And poor Lisa Rinna had to lock herself in the room. And use the F-A-G word in describing the DJ. The DJ. Yes. Yeah.

But the cameras weren't there. Kathy had a little one too many for sure. And mixed with whatever meds. And, you know, we're big Kathy Hilton fans. Yeah. And I thought that was awful, personally. It was the same with Denise. I thought the Kathy Hilton... Like, if something's set off camera, like...

And that didn't work for her. The fans didn't like that because they know the circle of trust. Even gays were like, she may have, who cares? Who cares? We still want to eat a caviar stuffed potato at our house. Of course. We don't care what happened and there's no proof of it, so leave us alone. She's also not doing anything to harm any gays. You know what I mean? She was drunk. She said a thing because she felt, because she's so ingrained. You know what? When you need the beat, when you need the Michael Jackson beat...

It hits you. Pretty young thing. Repeat after me. If I don't dance to this right now, I have to get out of here.

Kyle, they're not playing MJ. You know Latoya Jackson's my best friend. And she did yell at Kyle, remember? Yeah. And Kyle just let her go. Kyle had already been mean about the tequila. That's right. They had been going in on Kathy. Her house shoes, slippers she was wearing at the airport. They made her sleep in the bunk bed. All of that. It wasn't right. It wasn't right. They did Kathy. They did her dirty. The thing is that literally last night I had a thing where I was like this with Lisa. I was like...

Lisa left it all, you know, no pun, on the dance floor for Bravo. She went there. She lost her friend Denise. She did every single thing they wanted her to do. And she...

And maybe she left of her own accord, but they were letting her go. They were sitting her down because the fans were done with her. And I just started to feel horrible for Lisa Rinna. I was like, how much do you have to give? She's not getting booked back on days to play Billy now. She's not getting her Depend spot. Maybe she's sitting at the fashion shows because of her daughter, but she has a podcast.

Like all of us. Yeah, exactly. And I mean, with her husband and nobody cares about their marriage. Like, you know, it's like whatever. And I just thought, wow. That's what I'm saying. Bring her back. Bring her back. Because we are talking about her. I always thought of this when I was driving over. So let's just get into all the juice that came out last night for our first part one. Very, very good. So since we're talking about Lisa Renna...

Let's just hop to a little bit later in the episode, which was when Dorit and Garcelle get into it. And Dorit brings up, you know, I really can't believe, Garcelle, that one of the most tragic times of my life...

that you would say over and over and over again that for some reason it wasn't real. My robbery wasn't real. You said that. And then Garcelle was like, well, yeah, it's my opinion. I said it. And a lot of other people were talking about it too. You mean you and Julie? Heather McDonald and Julie Goldman? I think she meant you two. I know, because she goes, what, you're four people on Twitter? And I'm like...

Yeah, I've talked about it. A lot of people have talked about it. We've all talked about it. Yeah. And the thing is, is that I feel badly for Garcelle because I think she had said it. I think she's probably had conversations with producers and it could have been that she did it on her own. It could have been, bring that up again at your beach house with Sutton and we see the scene when she goes, I'm not saying...

That Dorit, I don't think, I mean, literally Garcelle's theory is the one I've been saying. Me too. That it wasn't, Dorit was unaware. She came home a night early. She didn't turn on the alarm. They came at 10 p.m. Sorry, I think that's a little. It's early. It's a little early for a nighttime robbery. Yeah, like if we're going to do the robbery, we're doing it at 1 a.m. Defense, a lot of robberies. Daylight, Valley, a lot of robberies.

Her wedding ring, she still has. Again, could have been packed away and they only went to the room. Could have been... She could have been wearing it. She could have been wearing it, twirled around her finger, and they only had the things to get the stuff. The return of the iPhone, they could have thought, I don't want this tracking me. Why don't I do one Christian good deed before I take this stuff?

Back to PK's friend. I don't know. But I'm not saying that. And I'm not saying that. But now I do believe that if nobody is prosecuting barely anybody in L.A., this crime that happened two years ago,

I don't believe the police care enough about Garcelle's reunion and you and me and all of us talking about it enough. I don't think we will, if it is in fact not exactly what we thought, random robbers who chose their house on that day to steal stuff because they just, it looked like a rich house.

then we will never... I don't think we're ever going to know. I do not think we are ever going to know. It is over. Case closed. They are doing bigger fish to fry with everything going on. So I think she can sit there in confidence knowing, well, I do believe that she believes this truth to be. However, PK was...

was remember like, oh, get over your post part, your post, whatever. You know, like get over it. Come on. Come on. I'm sorry. I know. I, I, I said, I thought that it was real. I believe exactly what you're saying. And I believe exactly what yourself saying. And I've said it from the beginning and I'll keep saying it. And I don't, and listen, I'm loving Dorit right now. I don't want to hurt her feelings or the children. But the fact of the matter is PK is a grifting con man.

In my opinion. Okay? You can have your opinions. This is my opinion. I am not going to censor my guest's opinion about people going to reality.

on a reality show. We can talk about your issues, your money, and what People Magazine writes about you. Continue. That's correct. And again, we've said this a million times about reality. The joy of reality is that these people, I know that they're real with real feelings and real children, but we do go back and forth liking them one day, not liking them another day, commenting on them, not commenting. That's just the joy of it. It just is what it is. PK...

It's odd, even in looking at it, after the house, the robbery, that's their relationship started to go south. Like now he's irritated with her. Now it's all of a sudden after that robbery, he's been that robbery. I think he thought was going to save whatever shell hole he had built because he's moving money around and he's whatever cons he's doing is

He thought that was going to... I believe. And this is just our opinion. It's my opinion. We do not have facts for it. No, no, no. We're not accusing him of this. No. We're saying based on what we've seen, him as a public figure, what they've shared in your life, yeah, Garcelle was not the only one talking about it. Did she say it on camera? She probably regrets that. But did the producers... I believe you that I think...

producers for sure we know they encourage them bring that up again of course of course think it's the same thing here she is thin suffering going through a divorce

And I believe that was an extremely scary traumatic night for her, just like it was for Kim Kardashian, which I believe that was true. And you know that that trial is happening now. Oh, because I constantly said that was fake. Well, no, that one is real. OK, good. And those guys are actually in like in France going to go to trial. Because then that big diamond was just found in the street, too.

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them it was from Juicy Scoop. But get back to Lisa Rinna. Lisa Rinna was the one that was like about Yolanda Munchhausen. Munchhausen is a disease. And she went there with an agenda and even

There was a time where she kind of came out and said that like Lisa Vanderpump told her to say it, like say it. They probably talked about it on the phone. People probably put it in their heads or sent it or someone just goes, do you even

She has Lyme disease. It's probably Munchausen. Oh my God. Yes, it's Munchausen. And then, you know, Lisa Renner talks to a lot of people on DMs, you know, whether they're fans or podcasters or whatever. Well, that's good to know. Somebody gave her that stuff thing. I think this is it. She probably said it to Lisa. Lisa Vanderpump was like, well, we go to the thing with Kyle and we talk about it.

Let's bring it up. And then as Yolanda was filming with not even a speckle of concealer on and it was like, you really think I have that? Like, how dare you? And do your Yolanda. My loves, I definitely have Lyme disease, my loves. David, where are you? Are you with some boys under the piano door?

David Dixon the lemon tree Dixon the lemon tree my love my love I have Munchausen and I have Lyme disease my love but then like like Garcelle there was enough people and enough moments between the actual cast members that they were like

oh my god lisa renna's a for putting that munch house and storyline out there and i feel kind of the same for garcelle that you know she just was left out there to hang out to dry in the reunion there's like these things that happen on these shows where people get a bug up their butt about something being inappropriate or how dare you talk about this and how could you possibly and it's like

You accuse people of cheating. You talk about people's bodies. You ask somebody about their facelift. Andy Cohen himself will sit down and be like, oh, what work did you get done? No one has a problem with it. It's completely fine. We'll rate people from one to ten. But you have a problem with the fact that I think that because of your constant bragging, constant grandizing, constant, constant talking about yourself, that all of a sudden I'm yes, I have an issue because I don't believe you. I don't think you have that giving the shady vibes.

We know. Who? PK. Oh, yeah. What about like in the whole that season when it was like when they moved to the Valley or wherever they moved when they got that house. It was like, oh, the house is in Dorit's name. That's why when dumbass Sutton sitting there going, who's got the mortgage? It's like, bitch, we know from three seasons ago that it's in Dorit's name. Oh, really? Yeah. But she said in that conversation, Dorit's like,

I don't know. She proved Sutton's point. She's like, I don't know. And I'm going off of what PK said. She goes, PK said that the rate changed. And I'm like, the rate...

She did also say... So you had an adjustable rate mortgage and it suddenly changed and it wasn't supposed to? So she was like, you know, and that's what he did. He said, I'm not paying until you call me back. And guess what? They called him back, so now it's fine. Okay, but still, you're going off what your husband said and now he's not speaking to you. So two...

Sutton's point, like you should know what's up with this shit because you're not talking now. But even when he got the house and put it in her name, everyone knew that that was bad. We're like, because he was already in for a bankruptcy, so he put it in her name because he was in bankruptcy. Or she had the better credit for the loan. Yeah, it was a million things. And he was already in trouble at that point financially, which is why he put it in her name. And we were all like...

Yeah, no, that's a mistake. I mean, I do think she's a little bit playing catch up now, too. Like, I do feel. Yeah, like, I think that there's things that are, I think there's things that she's protecting and hiding because she's now is awakening to some of the, you know what I mean? So, I mean, okay, so let's read the statement he put out by wig. Hello, drama printed out for me. So that was nice.

I was invited to be part of the reunion. This is from PK. But declined because I don't believe engaging with Dorit in this form would be constructive. Dorit has made several mischaracterizations about me, but the one I must address is the claim that I'm a bad father. That statement is both heartbreaking and false. It is deeply hurtful to me and more importantly to our children who, despite Dorit's assertion, will inevitably see and hear all of this.

Including this statement. Yeah, exactly. Okay, if we're doing that. At a time not of our choosing. Those closest to us know the truth. Many have wanted to speak out, but I have asked them not to because the truth should never need a champion. I refuse to stroke a fire I did not ignite. The Dorit I married would never have allowed this, much less caused it. That woman...

embodied kindness, integrity, and grace. I can only hope this version of Dorit finds her way back to the person she once was, who was hot to suck my dick. And no, I don't know. But you know, like a couple of things with this.

i understand why he wouldn't want to show up at the reunion i i agree with that i understand why he'd want to write a statement um she you know she did say he wasn't a great dad for the first time on camera this season how

However, we did see last season that he had spent 72 days away in London. I understand he had a TV show, but I mean that you couldn't find maybe three days between the 72 to come home or have her and the kids fly out there. Or even maybe one of your older children could come and fly your kids to stay with you for a week. Like, I...

I don't know. I think FaceTime, unless you're a soldier in the military, I feel like you have means. You could have tried to actually spend a little time. But again, doesn't mean you're a bad dad. Just whatever it was, probably because you weren't getting along with her. But still, 73 days is 73 days. If a woman spent 73 days away from her two kids... Come on.

she the bravo spear would destroy her right destroy her and I'm like so yeah I think she has a point in that I do think he's a good dad it's his second time around I went on his Instagram the kids are really great kids little girls very talented your dancer

That's a lot of... I'm sorry, that's Dorit going to dance classes, going to music and fostering that. However, yes, he's there and he's supporting it and he's going to the baseball games and all of that. But I went to his thing and it was shocking because...

I went, when was the last time you wrote about her? March 17th. So only a year ago, PK wrote congrats on another successful season, another belt under for this incredible mother. And the next one right around there was their nine year wedding anniversary. So a lot has happened in a year, like, like a lot. And maybe their marriage wasn't always so strong. They're also mad that she used the word alcoholic. Well,

He did make a... Does that mean Kyle's not an... I guess Kyle's not an alcoholic, too. She gave up alcohol. He's now saying, I'm not an... I don't know if he is an alcoholic or he's not, but he's given up alcohol and he didn't like that she, I guess, used that word. Or Kyle didn't like it, but he... I thought she said... She said he gave her permission. He gave her permission. His approval, yeah. I mean, also, this isn't... Why are we... Like, if she said...

- It infuriates me, this. The sexism involved in this is so infuriating, but he's being such a dick.

And listen, whether they had a good marriage or didn't or whatever, something happened after that break-in and their relationship was declining. Maybe he had a girlfriend in London. Maybe he had another situation going on. He's a liar and he's shady and he's Connie. He's Connie Konsman. And that is my belief. And I don't appreciate that this double-sided, two-pronged, double-faced...

Yeah. You know, snaky, snake in the grass way that he's gaslighting us all to feel bad for him when he's gone for 75 days, when he talks about his wife like that, the mother of his children like that in public. I thought it was awful. It is completely grotesque. And he's an asshole for this. And he went on Alex Baskin's show. He...

And they both had the same story that it was he who encouraged her to do it. She did not even what was not really watching the show, was not looking to do it, did not want to do it. It was he who said, go back for the season, even though we're like,

separated because you need the job basically she didn't want to do it I think she's glad she did now however it's like yeah you do change okay you do change that's why people do get divorced you're not the same woman you were at 26 or whenever they met you're not the same person now add two kids now you're in your late 40s and you've been famous for 10 years

For something that had to show every aspect of your life where you had to gush over your husband and have him look like he's fucking James Bond coming out of a helicopter. Good Lord. And you had to have the surprise. Come on. You had to, you know, have George, George, boy, George, who's probably why he encouraged you to do it first was to feature boy George and remind people that like, he's still a great singer. Come see his shows or hire him from a private night. I don't know. So I think she just feels like,

I did everything I could. I was willing to stay till the end. I think she feels sort of blindsided. And that makes me think he has a girlfriend. I mean, there's no proof to it, but we'll see. Because he immediately...

was good and wanted his own apartment and she's still like it's like Maurizio it makes you think that he has someone else that he's more interested in and you know I thought the statement like the statement hurt my damn feelings and I'm only a new fan of her she's been getting on my damn nerves for like four years and this season we really like her maybe it's because he's not there but well she's coming around I think it's more gritty she's like waking up it's like somebody having an awakening

and it's great. She's more authentic and she is funny. We really like a housewife that's funny. I really like her. I really want her to come back and I want, I definitely want her to get a boyfriend and I want it to be a rich ass boyfriend. Yeah. And I want her to be alpha. It's like she's, she's right now I hope for Dorit that she is

she retains her independence and she becomes the alpha 'cause she was beta to him for long enough. - And Kyle said she thought she wore the pants. I never got that impression, but maybe that was just what they showed. I just wanna say lastly that again, we watched seven seasons of, and it was Dorit starting with Dorit's first season. Those were all the seasons we watched in one weekend. - Oh yeah. - 'Cause we had never watched, we had quit and then Dorit came on. - Okay. - So we watched that all in a weekend and it's like,

quite sure she changed after season one because her entire face changed. Oh, really? Okay. Oh, her whole face changed. And Chanel had to toe. She was one girl in season one and she has pretty much been the same person since season two, her season two. Which is all about the fashion and the labels. Right. And her face. You know what I mean? Her look.

She's been very consistent. So for him to say she changed, I'm like, no, no, no, no, no. She changed eight years ago. You changed. You're running around London like the cock with the walk because you have your dumb TV show, whatever that is. He completely him and Maurizio thought and same with Maurizio. All of a sudden he has his show with the agency. And it's like it's them. It's them that that that changed that got there now famous again.

in their own right and that's also and it's like no no no we saw both of them lost a ton of weight Maurizio's showing pictures of himself working out and let's go to Ibiza and stand behind the DJ booth and it's just like you guys listen

Each to their own. Live your life. And if you need to be free, be free. I wouldn't, you know what I mean? But what a bummer, too, that the two guys have never been closer going through PK's thing. It was this is what support looks like. And it's him hugging Mauricio. And the two girls didn't.

Because Kyle was like, well, I feel that, you know, there's only one narrative and it's out and it's her putting it out there. And I felt bad for PK and I've never seen that before. Why would you see it? If you already said you weren't that close and you only went on one trip together. What did you live with them for, for three months? Unless you've lived with like a couple for, and not just a vacation that they could go wrong. I mean, you lived in a house with two people for either your life or, uh,

a significant amount of time can you speak on, yeah, they had a fucking weird marriage or he was mean to her, she was sweet or she was a reclusive bitch. Other than that, like, shut up about talking about it and then, of course, keeping your friendship going more with him and, like, just admit, like, I wouldn't, maybe we will get to that place but it would be better and for the sake of the show if they're all coming back if Kyle was like, you're right, they're best friends and we're fighting. It's fucking bullshit. Yeah.

I don't need to send him stupid memes anymore. We don't need to talk about AA. I'm your girl, and we're going to work on the fresh show. And maybe we'll see that at the end of the three. Doesn't it come and say that she came back to the room and called PK? Yeah. Oh, gosh. So either it's next week or it happened. She went back and- She doesn't even get that PK's using her. Tell me what everyone says after my statement's read. She doesn't get it. I don't know what- She called PK? It's crazy.

It's crazy. It's insane. It's like offensive. It's literally insane. It's offensive. I'm sorry. It's literally crazy. I had one witness. I witnessed one moment with Dorit and her two kids at Adrienne Maloof's Halloween party a couple years ago. And she was there. There was no nanny. And she was all dressed up. And the kids were dressed up. And I didn't even recognize her. I recognized the kids. I recognized the kids.

And then because she had a wig on, she was like a princess or something. And she couldn't have been nicer. And they were sitting on the stoop, going through their candy, waiting for the Uber. That was their Halloween. You know, I'm sure PK was saving someone's house in London. I don't know. But I'm just saying, like...

I don't like a narrative that like, oh, you know, I saw a nanny pushing, you know, one of the kids on the swing last week. The kids are too old to be at the swings. They're at dance classes and baseball and she's probably there taking the video and all that. So I don't like it. You could even tell at the 4th of July party that while Sutton and that whole thing, everything was going on. Yeah.

She's like, look at Phoenix walking across the and everyone has to go look at Phoenix like walking by the pool. Like she was literally throwing that party as a real party for Fourth of July for all the kids. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Tell. I mean, it was like, oh, she's doing these scenes. But but her head was with the party with the kids.

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So that was Erica being annoyed because she's like, show more of your life. And then Garcelle's like, what more of my life am I supposed to show, Erica? I mean, we want the Juicy Scoop. Thank you. Thank you, Erica. Thank you for everyone who uses Juicy Scoop in their vernacular. Yeah, I want to put it out there too. It doesn't have to be a gay guy, but it normally is. Any of Heather's gay guy listeners that can make a track...

Oh, a track. Good one. Do the Juicy Scoop, Erika Jayne. Yes. The bitch track. We want the Juicy Scoop. You do the bitch track. Oh, yes. Put it with a beat. Put it with a beat. Why does Heidi Montag have to be the only number one pop star in the world? Put the Erika Jayne. I would like to also be a pop star. Oh, my God. I love it. Yes, please. Somebody do something with it. We want the Juicy Scoop. And it's here and there. We're going to take all of those with you. And get all of them being like, whatever, who cares? Yeah. Interesting. Sometimes I listen back to the show, I go, oh, my God, I say interesting. You know, it's just interesting.

Interesting. So we get... So, okay, getting back to that. So then Erica says to her, you know, she goes, what more do I have to show? You know, I've shown everything. This is my life, blah, blah, blah. I said that too. And I loved it afterwards when she gets...

to talk to Sutton later because that's what I've been saying like sometimes that is your year you already had your shitty divorce your boys are pretty good and one doesn't want to be on camera my boys at that age didn't want to be on camera we actually were like doing a pilot for reality show and now recently my son said

I was like, mom, if mom gets that show, I'm just going to like boycott it. Like he had a whole plan. So like I get, listen, most reality stars, they're little girls. Little girls are thirsty. Yes. A lot of the daughters want to be a part of it. They want to dance. They want to sing. But the teenage boys, maybe one or two, like one of the twins doesn't want to be part of it. Totally understand that.

The other one has had his issues, which she did share, Oliver, of addiction. And she shared a very disturbing story, I think, this season. Oh, my God. That was intense. And about, you know, and so, and then she's like, and they're like, you're not dating anybody? And they kept going, I'm like, what are you going to do? You haven't been fingered? Like, what the fuck?

Like, what do you want her to say? She's like, no, we're on two dates. It's slim pickings post-50 when you're at that level. It fucking is, you know? And she is busy. She's doing all these Lifetime movies, which there isn't any juice about a Lifetime set. She's just fucking working. And so she's like, yeah, sorry I'm not being sued. And then that's what Erica says. She goes, we've gone through divorces, legal troubles, da-da-da-da. And then I'm like, I love it. Yeah, her kids...

you know, her kid isn't, you know, going through something horrible, thank God. She doesn't have a sick parent. She isn't going through a horrible divorce. She isn't trying to get pregnant at 50, Bose. She doesn't. She isn't being multiply sued. And she isn't thinking about being a lesbian. So what else is there? And she says all that. Yeah, Garcelle, let's give it a try. What do you got

what do you got against meeting a lesbian, Garcelle? Yeah, what do you got to lose? Taking off my housewife consultants. That was a really, really good point. I had forgotten about that story. That was so intense with the, and not for nothing. And, you know, obviously said with love as she's the star of our new juicy scoop bitch track. She's the chorus. She's the hook. But she, but she,

Also has a son that we've never seen. Good point. And I get it. Well, he's a police officer, and it's not safe for him to be. However, he was a star witness in a case recently. I forgot what the case was, but of course, somebody found him because he had to. He had something to do with it as an arresting officer. And we all respect that. But yeah, this season, thank God, now...

Yeah, she is being still sued for the $25 million that the estate or whatever, the bankruptcy state is saying that she knew by using the credit card that was Girardi and Keith's credit card, that by using that to fund her music career, that she had knowledge that that money was actually coming from funds and that it wasn't just his...

card, like, salary-wise, whatever. Like, I honestly... She was barely talking to him. He was screwing other people and she was off with her gaze. And he's like, here's the card. Spend whatever you want. That was always her thing. I mean...

So whatever, they're still going off with her. That's all that she has to go through that next season. And you know what? It's not juicy to the audience anymore either. We're over that story. And so what did she do? Yeah, she decorated her place with fabulous Martin Ballard. So when we go, well, that was boring. Whatever, that's still her life. But it wasn't really fair for her to say, I wish you were just more interesting. And then I like that Garcelle's like, well, that's a shitty thing to say. And I think Erica, I would guess that.

is sitting back and sort of regretting that, but I don't know. I think she did that to cover the narrative online that all she did was redecorate her place. I think she was projecting to try to be like, I'm not the boring one. Now, Julie watched and pretty much pinpointed the moment Garcelle tried to, or decided she was to quit the show. Erica says the thing, like, I wish you a more interesting time, Jodi. And then... Yeah. And then...

There's a shot of Garcelle literally like where she she's looking up intensely into the sky. She's just like, fuck this. And in that moment, I thought that in her mind now I could be wrong. But in her mind, I think this is in her mind. She's going, I'm going to quit this motherfucking job.

Remember when Oprah used to always ask, when was your aha moment? Which I asked people all that time. I asked people that all that time, whether it's like if they broke up with somebody or got divorced, I'll be like, when was your aha moment? And someone always has it. They're like, we were at Cheesecake Factory. I was looking at his fucking sick face. And I'm like, thank you. And it took me three years after that. But that was the aha moment. I'm like, yeah. So it's like that. That's what she would say. And I think that was the aha moment because I was looking at her. I'm like, oh, my God.

She's formulating it right now. She's like, I'm done. Fuck all of you. No one's here. No one's supporting me. So, and in that moment... She's an island by herself, truly. And she was in an island by herself. And Sutton didn't jump in. Even, and I said to Brandi too, I was like, even if there's a slight possibility, had Sutton jumped in at that moment and just said, you know what, Noreen, that's just not fair, or whatever. Or Erica, yeah. Or whatever, and said to Erica, if Sutton had...

jumped in and tried to be in any way supportive or defensive of Garcelle. Garcelle may not have quit, but it was in that moment where no one was there for her and she was done. And then I also think, I think she's also like, and fuck Sutton because I, I, you know, threw my anchor onto her and I've supported her and I went to her, you know, Augusta thing with her mother and I,

I did all that stuff and supported her the whole way through her fights with Dorit when she was, you know, and being accused. She was a good friend to her. And Sutton has brought up, you know, and Sutton's character was not supportive of anybody like during the hard times. No. And so, yeah, I think that's, that was like, it was pretty crazy. And then what, so now let's get to the juicy. Well, let me just, I want to say this about Carselle. I was, you know, teen, young,

young teen in the 90s and was a model and I I love Garcelle I loved her since she's been modeling I like her on the show I like her energy I love looking at her face um I do think she's I think she's really funny too um she seemed very um sad yeah or upset from the minute the reunion started and she could just be wildly uncomfortable in that outfit

Though her iPhone was one of the best. But because those gloves... Yeah, the gloves were weird. She can't be on the phone, she said. It's sticking to people. She can't touch anyone. It gets stuck to people, so she's just sort of like... But she seemed really unhappy, and I think she... It sucks. She got on an island. Yeah. And that's the saying in reality TV. You know, you can't... If somebody gets on an island, they're fucked, and they can't continue on because they don't have anyone. And I felt like all season, she...

She really wasn't feeling Sutton anymore. Yeah, she was over this shit. Yeah, she just wasn't like... She was like, okay, go sniff Kyle's asshole. Yeah, go sniff her jock. You're a jock sniffer. Yeah. Go smell her underwear. So let's talk about now, Garcelle also, also being us, okay, the three of us, what the fuck's going on with you and Morgan? And she had some really great points because she was like, I understand Morgan's not a paid cast member and everything, but...

But you featured her on the show last year, and you're currently with her when the cameras aren't around. And this is a reality show. And we joked at Chuck E. Cheese, if you want to be a lesbian, be a lesbian. We all laughed. Like, just come out with that already. But I get it. There's also a sensitive subject of, like, you shouldn't force someone to come out. That's true. So it's like, it's a unique situation. But I will say, yeah.

I thought I said, and someone sent this to me, and I'm sorry that I don't know who sent this, because I was like, you know, this is a juicy storyline. It's the first time that a longtime married woman could possibly be crossing over to the lady pond and being gay, and I love it. And late in life, Les. And they're like, don't ever forget.

Kim Zolciak. All right. And that girl that she like did a song with. Listen. Lesbian superstar, Laurie Michael. No, that's Danielle Stubbs. And Danielle Stubbs. Remember they did on the Watchmen of Slime. Are you kidding? I want to say, was one behind her and were they both playing the piano or something? Heather, they're both on the piano. Julie plays it all the time. I love to relive it. So close to you. So close to you.

♪ So close to you ♪ - And it's-- - He called her a lesbian superstar. - Lesbian superstar, she calls herself that. - Oh. - Laurie Michaels, no shit, I mean, I've literally, back in the day, I worked, so I know Laurie Michaels, and so when that happened, I was like,

Slow clap for the fucking lesbian superstar, Laurie Michaels and Danielle Saab sitting at the piano. Then Kim got with the DJ. The DJ. Who is a les. And they did that lesbo for minutes. I remember being at Chelsea Lately and I got like an email or... No, I got a call at my desk, which was weird because we didn't really do many calls. And this is how long ago it was. And I'm like, hello? And this guy's like...

Hello, this is Heather. I have the juicy scoop. Yeah, he's like, I have the juicy scoop. And he tells me that like,

she's definitely with this woman. She's a lesbian. And I go, first of all, I'm like, I don't really care. And I think we already kind of knew it, but he was like confirming that they were more than friends. And I'm like, first of all, we don't even cover housewives and we don't break stories, but I don't care. But he was like, I'm just frustrated because, you know, she could be the biggest superstar ever. And she is just throwing away her career, me and Kim. And,

And I was like, what are you talking? Like, anyway. So there's that. Not for being gay, but I think for dumping him or something. Like, I think this guy was like used to work for her or something. And then he was like, here, talk about this thing that's going on. But then after that is when then she saw Corey's ass in an episode of like Amateurs Dancing with the Stars and then married him and now hates his guts.

You gotta give it to them whether it's real or fake or they're doing fake lesbo stuff, whatever it is they're doing. It's still, it's like good for you. That takes a lot of... And it's juicy to talk about. It's juicy to talk about. It's unique. It also takes balls to live in it without any kind of... What Kyle's experiencing is slightly off-putting because it's... She's so... Whatever it is she's hiding... And I blame Morgan. Right. Because I think Kyle would talk about it. I feel like, oh my God, glad was this weekend. Yeah.

They never invite us. They never invite you guys? Ever. Get the fuck out. Do you want to talk about Juicy Scoop? Want to talk about Juicy Scoop? What's up, Glad? I was like, I can't believe that you guys should be invited every time. Never, not one time. And that's crazy. Not one time. I mean. After all these gay years. All these gay years? All these gay years. Are you kidding me? It's like being a member of the AAA. Like, how many years are on your card? I have a lot of years on my card, okay? It's one of the first ones out there.

Well, I was saying like, well, they're not there. They were in Dublin or something. They're in Ireland. Kyle and Morgan. Morgan's performing. Okay. I follow Morgan. So I see her songs and stuff. And I do. You know, she is good. I like her songs. You do? Yeah, I think she's good. But she did. She did the song that like every Bravo star loves to do as a cover, which is.

You know I like my women just a little bit older. I don't want to lose myself tonight. So someone was showing that part. Which I guess Kelly Clarkson recently did one and everyone got wet because it's like, first of all, Kelly, I've always thought is gay and should be gay. How she is not gay is...

I don't know. I know she was married to somebody, but we all have hope. I think she should be. Yeah. And so she did it. And a lot of people, a lot of people did like the duets and were like, I'm straight, but like, what the hell was that? So, so then, so then Morgan did it and she's like,

you know, I like my women just a little bit older, which is Kyle. And everyone's like, woo! So they're in Dublin doing their thing. And so now I know if someone was to put...

all my opinions about this together over the last three years, it probably would be four to 17 hours of content. Also, our time together, walking to your country club in La Quinta. Talking about Kyle Morgan. Now I think 100% they are currently together. She is not ready to come out.

per se. And, and, but it's like, I feel like, you know what? You have, you have less than a year to be booked as the master's mistress of ceremonies, mistresses of ceremonies at the next glad, which Brandy and Julie will definitely be invited. I've been invited before. I'd like to be invited back anyway. So that's when I think that's when we're going to get our truth.

At GLAAD? Yeah, unless she conveniently is out of town again just to keep avoiding it. What are they protecting at this point? I don't think that she's going to come out. I think either they need to reveal the relationship. I don't know that Morgan is committing. I think Morgan is stopping it. I don't think Kyle's hiding a thing. I think if they were ready to commit and be in a relationship, what would come out is just, I'm in a relationship with her now. It wouldn't be like, oh, yeah. I don't think Kyle's coming out as a lesbian. And then when Kyle goes, I don't know, maybe I'll have a really good story to tell one day.

And they're like, maybe you will, like in one of the episodes. So I think she's just kind of like, we're not ready to say anything or she's not. It's maybe not forever. So I don't want to put all my eggs in, you know, I don't want to put all my... In that vagina. In that vagina. All the jade eggs or the goop jade eggs in that vagina. I still might...

want to be a wifey to a man. I don't know. Right. But let me ask you something as a lesbian. Yes. Because I know a lot of gay guys that were, are romantic with another guy. Yeah. And they break up and they remain friends for the rest of their life.

But I have not heard that happening with women. Would you like to know why? Yes. Because we're women. You answered your own question. Because imagine, if you will. Yes. You're a lesbian. Yes. Which is what? A woman. And you're with another woman, lesbian or not. Yes. Now we're two women together. Okay. What does that mean?

Hell. Why? Because you're too... I say this about gay men, are too...

unfettered men together without a woman to civilize them. So now we have fucking in holes through walls and we do every sexual thing we want because we don't have women around to civilize us. But we're smart enough to know that we're both successful. We're going to stay married forever and that's men. And we're going to be richer than ever because we're going to stay, we're going to form companies together but we're still going to have some fun with some

Dudes on the side, but it won't mean anything because we're really like partners. But women... Can you imagine? No way. Yeah, I know. Imagine. Imagine...

Women cannot have that. Just like, bye, Peter. Have fun at your orgy. No. We can't. We can't handle the responsibility of that. We can't handle the weight of that. We're threatened. We're jealous. We're insecure. We're codependent. We're women. So what are the chances that... What are the chances that... We're annoying. Okay, so you think the chances are very slim that maybe at one time they were romantic...

Now they're not talking about it because they're no longer romantic and they're just friends. And she just likes to go to every concert and films Morgan singing on her iPhone. I mean, I just, I think, I think there are some women who can, I think there are some who can, I wouldn't say all there obviously are some who can, but in my heart of hearts, I don't think women, I don't think women operate like that, but you know, but they did say on the reunion, but maybe they were always friends. I don't know if you caught this, that,

Kyle went to Garcelle and Sutton off camera at the beginning of the season and said, I don't want you guys to bring Morgan. Please don't bring her up. She doesn't want to be mentioned. Oh, that's right. I didn't really understand that, but okay. And so then she walked away and then Garcelle, then I guess through Sutton under the bus because Garcelle's when she walked away said that Sutton said that was a chess move. And then what does that mean? Like,

That it was a calculated, manipulative thing to do. So that she could have an easier, better season. She's controlling her storyline and asking them to...

You know, that's why she got mad when she made the joke at the Chuck E. Cheese and she and didn't follow her directive to not bring it on. But Sutton did. Sutton followed it to the letter because she'll do anything, you know, to get to get in the popular group. Yeah. So there's something Morgan Wade must be feeling because Kyle said in the in the thing like you said it to embarrass me. You said it to make me feel bad. Like there's some weird there's always going to be some negative thing when it comes to gay shit. Yeah.

And it's not. And I think Garcelle was like, that's not my intention. I know, that's why she asked. She was like, that's not my intention. And also there's probably a little bit of her like, are you trying to say I'm somewhat homophobic by like teasing you? Because that was not at all what I was doing. And that's why it's always annoying for the most part with this. It's like, why has someone always got to be making it negative? Right. If she was with some hot young guy, you'd all be...

throwing parties. Like, like let, if so, regardless of it's a Les or not, or man or whatever, it's like, I mean, I love it. I love it for so many reasons. One that I've talked about it for 20 hours, but also it is a May, December, a May, a,

A gay December romance. Yeah. Where a gay couple has a huge age difference as well as being gay. And so that part's cool. Also, it's so, she's such a different type of vibe from Kyle's, you know, grown up in Hollywood, Beverly Hills, has all the Birkins. Yeah.

you know, her whole style has changed. She's morphed into her partner. She's going and like becoming a music manager. The other prediction I have is this. The other, well music, whatever. The other prediction I have is she said that

I'm doing a documentary on Morgan because Morgan had some other double mastectomy voluntarily because she was a carrier of a different gene, not the BRCA. BRCA, whatever. Yeah, it's a different one. And so they were exploring that. But obviously in it, they would be covering her music and all that stuff. Yeah, wasn't this what came out last year? Okay, prediction. Okay. Prediction time. D.

Originally, that's the reason why she's not giving it to Bravo. She is not giving this coming out. We actually are a couple. It's going to be on the documentary. She's going to own it. It's on her time. That's what's going to happen. And it's going to come out. And that's where it is. Just like, you know, when Mauricio was doing the Netflix show. Mm-hmm.

They, I believe on the Netflix show is when the news broke that they were separated on People Magazine and they were all filming in Aspen. And the Netflix cameras happened to be there, which the show is not Mauricio's. The show is her daughter's legacy. It's not continuing. But I think she was like.

We'll give you the, I'll give you the juice of our divorce for your show by husband and my daughters. But this, no, no, no, brava. This is mine. I'm the documentarian. I'm the movie maker. I'm the. Okay. All right. Chills. Chills from the prediction. Listen, it's the crystal.

Oh, yeah. So you said that at the beginning of the show. She was like, I brought out crystals. And I'm like, you know what? She was raised Catholic. She converted to Judaism for Mauricio. Now she's a lesbian. It's time for the crystals. And she was holding it at one point. Yeah, she was holding it. And even though she's morphed into her partner. Also how scared it would be, though, if you promised your partner or, you know, your current girlfriend, love of your life.

I'll protect you. I won't talk about it. It's like there's no way not to bring up Morgan. Nope. She's in an impossible. I mean, with all that said. And Morgan, put yourself into the situation. Don't come on the show. Let me give you a tattoo. You're in here. You're in the music video. Yeah, you did the music video. You're in a thirst trap. And now all of a sudden you don't want to be involved. You can't put the toothpaste back in the tube. No. And I just know that that comes from Morgan. The doc's going to be nominated at the GLAAD Awards, by the way.

another prediction. Oh, that's 100%. Which you guys will be there to present. Will we? I would like you to present if Heather gets us invited. Best gay documentary. Documentary. Where the three of us come out. Yes. And walk onto the stage together like, hello. And we present it to this year's nominees for best gay music. Gay documentary. Yeah. R. Under the Willow Tree. Put it in the hole.

Yes. We did see that. We all watched that one. We all watched that one, yeah. Yeah, put it in the hole though. Put it in a hole. Yes. Glory me, glory you. Whoa, that was good. The story of a young boy.

They do the description. And then it'll be like, what will Kyle be called? It'll be like, Morgan Wade, A Journey Through Love and Lyrics. Produced by Kyle Richards. And the winner is? You do it, Heather. Heather, you open it. Since you got us invited. Hate to make it about me, but it was my prediction on April 2nd.

Morgan Wade, beloved lyrics. Beautiful. By Kyle Richards. Good night, everyone. We're not saying we're all together as a threesome. Good night. And then? And then we cut to Garcelle. If I was wrong, I was wrong. But I wasn't wrong. You're up next, pecan-dory. Morgan couldn't be here tonight. Here to accept her award is Garcelle. Garcelle. And then she's going to be like, my prediction too. I'm right.

I proudly accept this award. Well, turns out Garcelle just got interesting. That's right. Cut to flash forward. Wait, what? Erica's with a woman? That's right. It's expensive too, baby. We just bought the juicy skin. Erica did say she was with couples, but not. So she's been with a woman. A whole hour. I don't want to see one fucking comment of you guys saying this wasn't one of the best episodes we've ever put out.

Bo's also, you know, she was real bitchy on Watch What Happens Live after the final episode with Erica, and a lot of people didn't like it, about Garcelle. He's like, how do you feel about Garcelle leaving? And they both were like, oh. And so then Bo's put out this photo of the two of them together, but Bo's is in the driver's seat of a little of the San Diego Jeep or whatever. That's cute. And she said...

To Garcelle, for your pioneering bravery and grace in five seasons of Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, well done. I wish we'd had more time together on this platform to continue showing the world that both of us can exist in the same space with different offerings and different opinions and besties, but still find a way to resolve our differences without hearing the world apart and that we're able to shine bright together and individually too. And then at the end, she says, you are leaving on your terms and while I'm disappointed by your exit, it's

commendable. I'm wishing you even greater success onward. And someone was like, if that isn't the most corporate email goodbye letter, because she's like a corporate gal marketing exec. But I think, you know, I think it was a smart marketing move because there was a lot. People did not like their appearance on Watch What Happens Live. So I think that that happened too. But attention, PK, attention, PK.

Yeah. Even if you don't like each other or whatever, that's the way you do it. Yeah, why don't you call Boze to write your... Yeah, I mean, he should be having Boze write... Yeah, Boze should write it. It's respectful. I'm going to write PKs right now. Yeah, okay. Okay.

Though I appreciate the invitation to come on the reunion. I've had many good times on a reunion. However, right now, my family is fractured and we are doing our best to co-parent two incredible kids in the best way possible while being in the public light. That being said, I understand this is a reality show and during a divorce, people vent and

Unfortunately, I believe the cameras caught my wife saying some things in a moment of anger that are just, quite frankly, not true. I am a dedicated father. I was when we were married, and I will be however our relationship is after, as is she a wonderful mother. Thank you. Great.

No other nominees. Only one. No other nominees for best PK letter to Super Bowl reunion. I will say I heard from Kempire, who had some juice about the reunion, that, and I think they cut this out, but what really also pissed off Garcelle is that Bose said in talking about the robbery not being completely legal,

what it is said to be, she's like, that's, you know, she did say some firm words to Garcelle, but the word on the street is that she also said, if it was me, I would have sued you for defamation. Now that is just a rumor, but that personally, and especially if the, if the producers maybe encourage me to say it one more time on camera, because she'd already said it last season, I would have been like, yeah,

I would have looked up, like you said, and I would have been like, yeah, I'm fucking done. Now you're putting like a legal thing with me when the producers made me do that. Yeah. Yeah. So I'm allowed to have that opinion.

That's my opinion. I'm not putting it out as fact. If I put it as fact, that would be defamation. My opinion. We'd all be being sued every second of the day. It's a bummer. That is a bummer. It's a bummer because the optics look, you know, it's just... But I'm loving Bo's in between Bo's and Bronwyn, and Bronwyn really bugged at the end there with all her lies. But they're just, to me, they're both...

I think Bravo like hit it out of the park with that. Both of their casting. I like love those. Yeah. And then both. So both said, I think it's a very difficult thing to say without any proof at all. So saying that has enormous repercussions. I think it's dangerous of you to say that. That's what she says to Garcelle after the thing. But I think maybe there was more there or maybe Garcelle,

The juice that got to Kempire that he put out or is out there. Maybe I wasn't supposed to say that. Whatever. Maybe someone insinuated that this was her intention. Obviously, there's no truth to what I just said. Okay. Okay. Leah McSweeney, the judge has said...

They both, both Bravo and, and Leah, you know, want the Bravo wanted her thing to be thrown out and she wants it to continue. The judge went through a whole thing and said, no, no to you and no, no to you. But they, but it is going forward because she is saying, they're saying we were, it's our Bravo saying it's our first amendment right to show women drinking on camera.

Okay. I love that that's a First Amendment right. About a show about real life and going on parties. Okay. And they go, fine. You can argue at that. Her argument is...

You encouraged it when you know I had an alcohol issue and you acted like I could go to AA meetings in Thailand or wherever it was on their ultimate girls trip when in fact I couldn't or you made it difficult. And so I guess she has enough evidence. Now the next will be text messages and emails proving that somehow they were unsupportive of her work.

Sobriety? Sobriety, yeah. Interesting. So what responsibility does she have for her own self? Or is that part of the lawsuit? Her lawsuit is under the American Disabilities Act in that she is an employee and her disability is that she is an alcoholic and I think bipolar too and they were not accommodating to that. I see. Ooh.

So it's an interesting thing being that it's TV. It's kind of like setting a precedent. That's part of the reality reckoning that Bethany has not mentioned since chicken salad. So I don't know that. So, yeah. Also, I didn't know if you know that Carl from Summer House is starting a sober bar. At the time, Lindsay thought it was an awful idea. That's because it is. But he is saying now everyone can be a little part of it.

They can, you can, you can be an investor yourself. You mean we can? Yeah. All you have to do is go to the, and so people are like, well, that means that you didn't get real venture capitalists to do it. If you're doing it like a crowdfunding crowd, is it an MLM? Oh no. It's a crowdfunding where it's like,

You know, look into it. You can be part of it. You can be on the ground. You know, the whole thing of that is like I just heard an ad for a pickleball place when I was driving on public radio, you know, free radio. And it was like, get on the ground floor. Pickleball is the biggest growing thing. We're going to make these pickleball clubs. And if you're part of it, then just think like,

If they're all over the country and you have, you know, a stake in it, it could be profitable. So it's not like a wrong thing, but it's just kind of interesting that maybe this isn't the greatest idea. It's a dumb ass idea. Sorry, Carl.

But, I mean, you're opening a restaurant then. Why don't you just go get a good diner? What are we doing? We're going to have mocktail? We're all going to go to the bar for mocktails? So you're going to spend $20 for something you can't even get a buzz off of? And a ton of calories. Yeah, I'm going to go. I'm going to drink juice. I'm going to go drink juice is what I'm going to do. It's a juice bar. It's a juice bar. So why did you open a juice bar? I mean, like I get he's trying to, I guess, have a community for people who are sober, but...

i think it's a hard way to make a profit it's a good idea as in theory but as far as like a profit there's also something inherently like terrible for your sobriety about it too i would imagine i'm gonna go out to a bar and i'm gonna sit in a bar atmosphere and get fake drinks i'm putting myself okay now i'm gonna play devil's advocate because also

If you're really trying to stay sober or just get rid of alcohol altogether for health reasons or whatever, or so that you sleep better. Yep. Then if you go there, you're with other people that are like that. So if you're looking to date or whatever, you're going to find someone that's down to not make drinking part of your couple hood. You know, it is hard when, you know, like that's true when you're in a couple and what, and you were like, I'm not drinking tonight. It's Wednesday night. I'm not drinking tonight. And then I come home and, um,

After driving an hour and Peter's open like a really nice bottle of wine. There's no way in fucking hell I'm not going to have a glass. Yes, right. Well, maybe it's more than it's... There's something about the... It needs to have... I don't know if it needs to be a... I don't know. But there's something about it that's just... Like, have it be a restaurant. White Lotus. I have to get to White Lotus. Oh, my God. I love the three girls in this. And here they are.

Just having fun. Look at them. It's Julie, Heather, and Brandy in White Lotus. This is an amazing Photoshop I had Drake do in about three seconds. And I said, do it shitty. I don't care. And I do love the threesome of that. Of their friendship and the jealousy of White Lotus. And we talked about White Lotus, so I know some people, but...

I've talked about it. Give your general take on White Lotus right now because you're caught up. We have one episode left and the episode is going to be 90 minutes. Who's your favorite character? Definitely Parker Posey. Just to watch and everything. I like the actress. That's who I told Drake to make me. You like Leslie Bibb. Yeah, the slutty actress who acted like, he's cute for you. You should fuck him. And then she fucked him herself.

That is completely not me. Oh, no, no, that's not Leslie Bibb. Wait, you're Leslie Bibb, which you have to be because you're the tallest. Oh, wait, I'm Leslie Bibb, sorry. Leslie Bibb, I like her. She's the one that, like, they kind of think that she's conservative now because she lives in Austin. And then...

Yeah. Oh, then you're you're the actress then that I'm Michelle Monaghan. OK, that's who I am. That's perfect. The guy after a second. But you got seconds. Well, no, no, wait. No, she fucks. She fucks Valentin, too. No, I know. I do the other guy.

Because Michelle, you fuck Valentin. No, I'm Michelle. Oh, you fuck Valentin. I fuck the other Russian. He's a different Russian. Oh, he is? Yes. Okay, when I watched last night, I thought that she got the same dude. No, it's a different guy. Okay, well, that makes it better. That's good. Yeah. Well, what do you think in general of this third season? How are you feeling about it?

Well, I just watched the first season for the first time. Hawaii is my favorite. So it was Hawaii, Italy, and Thailand. And Hawaii is the first one. And that was my ultimate favorite. That's your favorite one. That was my favorite. Because I loved the family. And it reminded me of how we treat Brandon on a trip for so long. Oh, okay. How they put him in like the little closet. Like a closet. And then just like, just me, just...

Like, third kid just always gets, like, the shitty pull-out couch, like, everything. Right. So, anyway, continue. So, that... And so, I haven't done season two yet, and I've heard season... Everyone has a different favorite. Yeah. Whatever. For me, so far, I think I like this one that we're watching more than the first one. Oh, good. But, in general, like, I...

I like it. I'm not in love with it, but I like, I do. I'm enjoying it where I'm like, when's the next episode? I'm like addicted to it. Yes. And I don't, I don't know why I love that. They, I like when a show comes out and you can't binge it. I actually want to have something to look forward to because it's kind of hard for me to hook into a new show. So I look forward to going, Oh, it's Sunday night. The way I did with Sopranos, the way I did with sex in city. Like I,

I like it. I like that so many people are watching it, so it's not some little obscure thing. I really enjoyed looking into Patrick Schwarzenegger. That was a fun little deep dive, watching him and then looking him up. And Julie hasn't even seen the video. You've seen the video when he books it. Oh, yeah. He finds out he books it, and Maria Shriver's hugging him, and they all start crying. Right. That's so cool.

I do think the show's overrated. I always have, but I do like exactly what you said. The thing I miss most about Housewives...

and Bravo the way we used to watch it was that we had something every night to watch. Yeah. And now we don't, you know? Yeah. And I feel like I'm constantly like, you know, looking for like what, you know, teenage girl was murdered and found on a beach or whatever, you know, every night. So this has been fun too because yeah, it's like giving, it's back giving Mad Men, back giving Game of Thrones, even though I didn't watch either one of those, but yeah.

And Sopranos. The thing that everyone's watching. I tried to watch a new thing last night. What? Called Holland on Prime with Nicole Kidman. Is that a show or a movie? And here's the thing. Nicole Kidman has an incredible body and looks young. But she is like 57. And I'm like, is she always going to keep just playing like a 40-year-old? Yeah.

Like she's playing a mom of like a 13 year old and I don't know. And like this teacher. And so, so to play down her look, she has like a weird barrette in her hair and it's in 2000 and,

And I can't get into it. I don't know. Is it a show or a movie? It's I don't even know. I think it's just a movie. I don't know. I fell asleep after like I couldn't I wanted to get into something new and juicy. What about the perfect the perfect couple where she's the mom of the guy that's getting married?

Oh, that was so bad. I liked it. It was so bad. I liked it. I decided it was supposed to be bad. I guess I didn't read the book and I thought this is the worst, most unrealistic thing. And then I realized, oh, I think it's supposed to be this way. Okay. I don't know if, if this juicy scoopers really realized that the sweet spot with good old head is like a very campy, terrible show. Like the apple doesn't fall far. Yeah.

like anger with Annette Bening, remember? Yes, that was so bad. And you watched it all in like a day and were just like- It's like furious about how bad it was. And then you told us, and you had me and Julie laughing for like a fucking hour, just going through every single-

awful part of that show. Yeah, and then we watched it. And then we had to watch it. I'm watching The Perfect American Family right now. And how's that? Which is the scripted show of Natalie Grace, the little orphan that was... It's a scripted show of Natalie Grace? Yes, on Hulu. And there's like four episodes out. And I think because I knew so much about it, some people are saying they're not into it. The little girl that plays her is very good. I mean, I assume she's an adult. But...

But she'll just be like... So it's basically from the mom's point of view. And she's awful to the mom. And the dad is goofy and everything. So she's always trying to manipulate the dad. If you've watched the documentary, they're playing the roles pretty well. So the little girl would be like, I want daddy to get me my milk. And she's like, you don't drink out of a bottle, you idiot. We know you have your period. It's so...

Good. Like, I can't even tell you. Okay. I mean, that's getting watched. That's getting watched. That's immediately getting watched. I mean, immediately. I do want to say about White Lotus, though, I do love, there's two people in it that I actually, like, am loving so hard. Obviously, Sam Rockwell. And that whole thing, I thought was the best thing Mike White, one of the best things besides School of Rock that he wrote was that.

Monologue. Do you know how the monologue came about? No. So that guy, I guess, is Leslie Bibb's husband? Yes. Or boyfriend. Boyfriend. And he was like, you know, I'm going to be with her. I mean, I don't know if you have a part for me or anything. And it was, that's the story. It wasn't like originally going to be part of it. And he was like, well, God, I have access to this great writer. And then he just wrote that monologue and he was like, all right.

And did that like... Yeah. You can kind of tell. People were like, if this isn't every dude's monologue to get into like Yale Drama School, like the new great... I remember my monologue that I did for a long time was from Harry Met Sally. Oh, no, no. Harry Met Sally when Sally is saying when she realized she should break up with her boyfriend because he doesn't want to have kids. And she's like...

And then I saw this family. And then I was with my friend's daughter and we were playing I Spy, I Spy a Tree, I Spy a Car. And this little girl, and the little girl goes, I Spy a Family. And it was the mom and the dad. And the dad had the little kids on the shoulders. And I realized it isn't that great. We don't have sex on TV.

the floor when no one's watching and someone goes you don't and she goes no it was just this hard Mexican tile my monologue is by Meg Ryan too okay what part from the fucking one where there when a man loves a woman and it's still when Harry Met Sally of course and now wait can you remember any of it

Oh, I mean, because I paraphrase vodka. But I knew what my future would hold. It's you know, she she she just paraphrase it. Just she forgets her. Do it to the camera, please. I know because she forgets her. She forgets her daughter. I know, but you're acting. Well, I know. No, I'm not a good actress.

But that hit so close to home that it was quite easy. So was it the part where she's like holding the chip and giving her speech? Oh, that's a good one. That's a good monologue. Yeah, it's so intense. Actresses out there, that's a good monologue to do. Yeah, so, so intense. And I did get my agent and it was, yeah, no, that movie, like I cried all the way home from that movie. And I was like...

an hour from the movie theater living in Austin and I like I couldn't stop crying the whole way that movie is so intense I don't know that you've ever seen it I always remember the little kid is like I'm going on another trip because he was a pilot

And he's like, no, I'm leaving forever because your mom got sober and realized I don't need alcohol or you. And I was like, oh, my God. Like, I guess she just blamed him to be in a neighborhood. Okay, let me see if there's anything else I want to say. Oh, there's going to be a prison interview. Oh, great. The one we've been waiting 35 years for, TMZ, with the Menendez brothers. However, I've seen them do a recent interview, so I don't know why they think they have it.

They don't understand the first interview they're doing when they get out of jail, and I believe they will. It needs to be Juicy Scoop because you have been talking about these motherfuckers for literally two decades. I know, but I go back and forth if they should get out. I still want them to get out and have a podcast, though. I'm okay with that. I want them to move the Kelsey brothers off the top chart as brothers who podcast together. So Meghan Markle, I follow her, of course. Who doesn't? And...

She has no comments, which I'm bummed about. So I'm like, I'm just going to put it. So I comment going through scrolling. She has some music going. Okay. She has two pots going where she's stirring two different pots. Oh. And then they go over and it's got some like jazzy music. And then it's her going over all of her notes for as ever.

What is it called? I think it's called As Ever. What is it called? It's not As Ever, is it? What's As Ever? That sounds nice. That's her thing, As Ever with Megan. Oh. Maybe it's not... As Always? As Always? I don't know what her thing... She's changed her title so many times to like the Montecito Jam to the Santa Barbara Orchards. I don't... American Orchard Jam Company to whatever. So, and then... But then she... It just seems so...

Like, of course, I'm sure she was really doing this and just put her camera, popped on something, stirred two pots. But the way she went to her notes and it was like there was a printed out thing like, between cooking two things, let me just check the spelling on the copy of my as ever jam. And then she comes over and she's just like going through it and being like, it just seems so. But I was like, you know what?

Look, that's what you're doing. You took off the comments. You're smart. But I just had to share. I need to know what she was stirring in the pots. Yeah, but I need to know the music. What do you think? Do you know what it was? Was it pasta? Probably the jam stuff. Oh, the jam stuff. Probably the jam stuff. All right, girls. What a fun time we had together as a threesome on a Thailand trip. Talking housewives and everything else. So many things going on. Do tell, girls.

Well, you know, for anyone who's interested, we do have our Dumb Gay podcast, which right now it's a very political time. If you're thrilled and happy with everything, great. If you're a person who's having political fatigue or sadness, come on over. We try and chop it up with...

being funny and you know not taking anything too seriously. It's a good time to laugh about things. The liberal political podcast if you feel election depression we're just trying to be funny find the humor in it. Yes. You know Julie's doing Melania. My husband. She's doing Marjorie Taylor Greene. Point of order. Yeah she's doing them all.

We do it all. And then we're having fun with that. So come have fun with us there. And then we have our Patreon where we are doing Reality Wednesdays, whatever Thursdays and Blind Item Fridays. A lot of content. That's a lot of content. And where do they find that? You can go julianbrandy.com. You can just Google Julie Brandy Patreon. And the free podcast is called Dumb Gay Podcasts.

I have a very juicy Patreon this Friday that I'm going to get into. Oh. That I'm going to be bringing receipts. It involves Housewives. Did you locate the receipts? Oh, yes. Oh, God. How exciting. Yes, yes. And that's this Friday on HeatherMcDonald.net. If you've not joined my Patreon already. Oh, my God. Of course, it's been many, many years. It's always commercial free. And...

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