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Hey, everybody. It is me, Rob Lowe, and you are here with me on Literally. And I couldn't be happier about that.
Today, Jimmy Tatro. Jimmy Tatro is a friend. He's friends with my son, Johnny, a hilarious young, funny actor. I discovered him on a show called American Vandal, which you can see on Netflix. He's been in 22 Jump Street, Modern Family, started in Home Economics. Just a legit, funny writer, producer, great guy, and middling golfer.
Let's get it. Let's get it going with old Jimmy.
Well, first of all, I got to apologize for my outfit. I just came from the set. Oh, I just thought that was just a... Village people kind of vibe. Wednesday vibe. Yeah, I do a fire captain on Wednesdays and then... I've played my fair share of firefighters and cops at this point. I'll bet you have. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Didn't you play one in 21 Jump Street? I did. No, no, I...
They thought I was. They thought I was the drug dealer in the movie. Okay. But no, after that,
It's like once I get this mustache, they're like, firefighter, cop. Do we rock the mustache all the time? No, we don't. I actually, I just went to Mexico. Oh, and you have to have one to go there. Yeah. I didn't know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I love that. Yeah, I know. I just went to Mexico. That's why I have a mustache. Yeah, so I was there. Yeah, I went a couple weeks ago. And so, you know, obviously, yeah.
You have to have a mustache. I had to go with the stache. People were speaking Spanish to me and I was like, no, no, I'm not. I'm not from here. I'm not. I just have a mustache. From here. Yeah, so that's, this is, I walked into the studio. I'm like, all right, these sprinklers here, we're going to have to check them. Can you imagine if everybody's on the take, I'm like, can you just give me a couple, give me a couple grand cash, you know, you guys don't need to do anything. When I was, I was driving a cop car around
on a show called Tacoma FD. And I played a cop in the show. And we were just doing like a little scene where we were driving. We had to go from the studio, from the stage, like down the street. And so I'm in a real cop car with functioning lights and stuff. And I just make eye contact with this guy. And he's just looking at me and I just go.
and drive off. And this guy is just standing there like, like his friends will never believe him. Like a cop just pulled up, flipped me off and drove off. I turned the lights on too to run a stop sign at one point. But it was just those two, just those two things. And then I was like, all right, I've done my fair share of illegal cop activities. Yeah, it's amazing when you put on a uniform, the authority that you can kind of
Are you feeling it right now? I am. And it makes me sit taller. My boots make me walk taller. It gives me a little more height. That's true. I mean, you know who's really down with that is Downey, Robert Downey. He's like, bro, just you should put the insoles in. Just go for it. Do it. See, I was actually just thinking about it. I've realized recently that my left leg is like a little longer than my right leg. Yeah.
And I'm starting to consider, do I... Does it put your hips out? Do I put... Yeah. So my hips are kind of off. I don't know if my hips are off because of that or if that's off because of the hips. Well, I know when I have been doing a lot of physical stuff, that happens to me and I have to have my hips adjusted. When I have hip adjusted, then I'm good. The sacrum? Look at you. You're a yoga man. Yeah. Like, yeah. Let me adjust your scapula and your sacrum.
And your uvula. Uvula. I'm thinking of like all different body parts that sound vaguely sexual. Yeah, the sacrum sounds a little bit. Doesn't it? For some reason? For some reason it does. It sounds like scrotum. Yeah. Exactly. That's what it is. That's what our brains are going to. I think your hips are out. No, I've been told I need to adjust my sacrum when that happens. How's your golf game?
It's okay. It's okay. You and I played in Hawaii. We did. We did, yes. That was a fun round. That was a good... I had a good time. I've since then have purchased clubs. Smart. And... Because I was for years just like...
I'm not good enough to get clubs. And everyone's like, no, you get the clubs and then you get better. That's right. And then once I did that, I actually am feeling improvement now and I'm having more fun because I used to get back from golf and every time I'd go, I'm like, how was it? Terrible. She's like, you don't have fun playing golf. And then now I actually respond. It was great. Have you gotten to the point where
The penny has dropped and you feel like the addiction like starting to kick in a little bit? It's once you start feeling little improvements happening. Yeah. That's when it starts to...
You start going, oh, I'm making adjustments and I can improve. And you're sticking around. I tell people, people say, I'm not interested in golf. I'm like, good, fine. Because you start, it's like heroin. Yeah. I'm not into heroin. Good, don't do it. Right. You start fucking around. And the next thing you know. You walk into a Roger Dunn. Dunn.
It's over. I went in to get a bag, to get a golf bag. And I walk into a Roger Dunn and I'm thinking I'll be met with maybe five options. It's
It's unbelievable. And I just, I had maybe 10 minutes, you know, I'm going to pop in, grab a bag. I walk in, I see probably 300 golf bags. I walked right out. I said, I'm too, I was not prepared. Yeah. For this amount of options. You want a tour bag? You want a carry bag? What are we looking at here? What I needed was to think. And I went, I went home. I regained my composure. I went back like a week later, mentally prepared for the amount of options. I, I, um,
I've been wanting to play in some of these celebrity pro-ams. And they always fall during the season of whatever show I'm shooting. But this year, I was like, I'm asking for time off. I'm going to do it. And I feel like my game is kind of in a place where my handicap, I could be dangerous. Like if I get hot, I could really be dangerous. But I still have a pretty high handicap. It's kind of where you want to be as the celebrity. And so I played in the memorial.
Just Jack Nicklaus' big, it's the biggest tournament that isn't a major. And it's in Ohio, my home state. And I went back. I got to meet Jack Nicklaus. I got to play with Victor Hovland. I mean. Oh, wow. It was, my favorite thing is in the men's locker. I guess Jack Nicklaus loves milkshakes. And I love milkshakes. Milkshakes are like my thing. It's my jam. It's my thing.
And in the men's locker room is a milkshake bar. That's crazy. It's the sickest thing. It's a proper bar with like, you know, people, three guys, suits on, waiting there for your order. Just milkshakes. And was this... Sick. Is this always there or was this... Always there. Always there. There's a milkshake bar in your field. How many milkshakes are you sucking down a week? Well...
I have a responsibility to not be wearing a girdle. Right. Like, you know, Captain Kirk in season seven. You know, you watch the later Star Treks and you see Kirk's in a girdle. You can throw a lot of stuff at me and I won't have seen most things. Yeah. Well, I'm working on it. Yeah. It's not something you need to see. And I love William Shatner, but, you know, girdle. There's two ways about it.
So you're responsible with your milkshake consumption. 100%. And what would be your go-to? Dude, if I could end every night with one, I would. Yeah. There's nothing like the sugar high euphoria, euphoria of it all. And then the rapid plummet into a coma. Like, you know, Michael Jackson, he would go to sleep with whatever the hell, what was it? Sodium pentothal? No, that's the truth drug.
But whatever it was, I would do with milkshake. But aren't there, do you ever have like the, like what about a protein shake? Because those can be somewhat healthy, somewhat guilt-free. My thing is because I'm the spokesman for Atkins, I do their shakes, which are great. High protein. And the reason I work with them is because literally they're great. Like it's not like a pay thing. So that's,
When I'm trying to be healthy, I do the Atkins shake. And when I'm really off the rails, then I want to go back to Jack Nicklaus' locker room. Yeah. You know what place I used to love that they had here that got closed down, which I was super upset about, was Millions of Milkshakes? Millions. Millions of Milkshakes. I don't even... How did I miss this? It was like a very well-known milkshake place in West Hollywood. What?
One of those places that you just think is always going to be there. Yeah. And then LA just has no problem. No, just ending those places. It's really been upsetting me lately, actually. Oh, like they just, they just took down that golf course, Weddington. Don't get me started on that. That's a goddamn crime. I know. Really? When I drive, this is a place in the, in the Valley where it's been there since I think 1920, right?
A long, long, it's like privately owned. Privately owned, beautiful little like pub open to the public. Everybody can go and hit balls and chip. And there's a par three. It's par three. You need like a nine iron, a pitching wedge and a putter. And it's like, you go there and there's Sylvester Stallone and one stall. And then, you know, my contractor and another and like cool guy over here and the, a little league coach bringing his kids to,
And the next stall and Jack Nicholson over is like the most like iconic community. And it's gone. And they're building a literally you can't make it up. I think they're building a parking. They're building. Yeah, it's this thing like it's a sport stadium and it will be open to the public, but it won't.
L.A., baby. Harvard-Westlake. See, I already had a bone to pick with Harvard-Westlake because I went to school also in the Valley and we were rivals in high school. Yeah, you were rivals. What was your high school? So now I'm even more like those. Yeah. They're the rich kids though, right? Yeah, they've always been. Yeah. And what was your high school in the Valley? Mine was Notre Dame. Well, Notre Dame isn't exactly...
It was, I think, five times less than Harvard-Westlake, yes. But I went to Santa Monica High School. And we were definitely the scrappy, like, you know, white trash by the sea. Although not quite Venice high. I lived in Venice. And I didn't want to go to Venice. No. High. Because at that time, it was like, I don't want to get stabbed. I wanted to go to Venice high. Yeah.
Right. Yes. I would like to go to Venice, comma, high. But I did not want to go to Venice high. This is the perfect segue. And this is why I'm a really, you know, I'm a really good podcaster. Because it, you know. No, I've heard this. We're talking about high schools, which makes me think about American Vandal. Ah. Wasn't that a good segue? It was a good segue. Yeah. A really good segue. I know I told you this when we were at the golf course.
I love American Vandal so much. It is the most brilliant. For those who haven't seen it, first of all, where can we find it? Because I want people to immediately watch it. It's all on Netflix. Season one and two, yeah. How many episodes total per season did you do? Season two was a different crime.
So it was, I don't know if crime is the right word here, but season two was a different crime that they were covering. So I was in like some flashbacks and stuff, but it was pretty much, I was just in season one. How, I don't want to butcher it, it's your baby. To the uninitiated, how would you describe American Vandal? I mean, it's one of the funniest, like most perfect sort of French kiss movies.
moments in time. Thank you. It's amazing. But how would you describe it? I would say, first, when I explain it, I first ask someone if they've seen Making a Murderer or The Jinx or if they've listened to Serial, the podcast. And usually they have. And I say, it's basically...
The same idea, true crime, very serious tone, but it's about a kid who's accused of spray painting 27 dicks on cars in the faculty parking lot at his high school. But he swears he didn't do it, but he is a known dick drawer.
So two of the kids in the TV program at the high school make a documentary to hopefully exonerate him of his crimes. And it's just a very serious, serious tone, which I think is what made it so funny. It's so funny.
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And you can't then watch Making of a Murderer. Because then you're laughing at little things. Yeah, you can't watch any of them. You can't watch The Staircase. You can't watch The Jinx. You can't watch any of those anymore. That's my favorite thing, I think, is when someone parodies...
or does a satire of something that's been begging for it, but nobody's gotten there yet. Yeah. And then you can no longer take the first thing seriously. Yeah. You're, you're done. Yes, exactly. And like, it's so it's, it's, it's, it's super great in that. And, um, so what, when that came out and everybody loved it so much, what was like the reaction for you? What did, where did that lead you?
So I had been, I had already written a show with my buddy Christian Pierce called The Real Bros of Simi Valley. Which the sequel is? Which, yeah, the movie is coming out. The movie. July 5th. Ooh, big slot.
You feeling the pressure? Big slot. July 5th. Yeah. Ooh, bro. Big slot. Why is it so big? Because it's the day after. Fourth of July weekend. Yeah. Christmas, Fourth of July weekend. That's only where they put the hitters. I figure day after Fourth of July, everyone's going to be at home. They're not going to want to do anything. They're just going to be on their couch.
And they can just put on the Real Bros of Simi Valley High School reunion and, you know, chill out. Amazing. But it was after Vandal, I actually learned a lot from Tony and Dan, the guys that created the show. Because, like, there was just, the camera was a character. And when you're doing something like that, and you have to think about
You can't just film it. You have to think about, well, how would the camera be here? And that was a really interesting thing to keep in mind while doing like a parody reality show because it makes things so much funnier when you do that. Like they did such a good job of that on Vandal with, you know, when they go around the corner and they're like, don't film this and they keep the camera on. But the,
You can't see them. You just hear the audio. We even did that on Parks and Rec because at the end of the day, Parks and Rec is a mock doc. Yeah. They call them as well. And we would... You guys are one of the OGs. OG. If not the OG, mock doc. The office. We got that. The office is the OG. We're right there. Yeah. But we would always... Whenever it was...
stuff that you wouldn't believe that you would let the cameras in to record. The cameras would stay outside the window or outside the house or outside the car. They didn't do it very often. In fact, on our show, we pretty much, we still did the talking heads, but the notion that it was supposed to be a documentary kind of went by the wayside. And then you get Modern Family, which is like just a sitcom, right?
where they talk to the camera. So it's funny how that whole genre morphed. The line started to get border. And it's, because realistically, most audience members, they won't like actively notice it. It might be something subconsciously that you notice. That's right. But most audiences won't really be like, well, why is the camera in the bathroom? Like, how'd they get in there? Yeah. I feel like, I don't know. Do you think people think about that? They definitely don't.
100% they don't. And the other thing is, did, did at the end of the office, did they ever show the documentary on the English office or the American office? We're like, I don't think so. I don't,
I don't know. I think I fell off of The Office like late in the... Same. Like after season like six or seven or something. Same. I mean, it was still very, very good. But I did turn back in to see my boy James Spader as Robert California. Did you ever see Spader when he was on The Office? I think I've seen. I haven't like sat down and watched it, but it's been on. It's always on. Always on. It's just on. It's permanently on.
I mean, that's the thing. Well, that's the thing about, I guess, Vandal or Netflix, being on Netflix. It is always there, except you have to kind of search for it. I feel like there are other shows that are just rammed on your throat. It's like Big Bang Theory. It's always on. Yeah. Always on. I don't know if I've ever actually watched an episode of... No? No.
shade to the big bang theory but i don't think i've ever actually seen an episode of the big bang theory but they've tried they've tried to get in your head they've really tried to get me have you ever done a traditional like cbs i did i did um i did a show called home economics on abc but that was in the mold of a traditional with our boy dean holland they're
I love Dean Holland so much. Dean Holland directed most of the Parks and Rec and edited most of the Parks and Rec. How was that...
Because comedy is so subjective and there's so many different tones and so many different clicks. And there's, you know, there's almost different lanes of comedy that people are in. And you've been in a lot of different ones. I mean, you and I are both in Super Troopers. Right. Right? Super Troopers 2. Yeah. Very proud of Super Troopers 2. Super Troopers 2. I was, I made, I make such a little...
Such a little appearance in that movie. I think I... But Brian Cox, I think, the one scene I'm in, he hits me in the nuts with a little nightstick.
And that was before Succession. That's right. And now I'm like, he hit me in the nuts, that guy. That's right. Brian Cox. I always forget that's the great Brian Cox. Yeah. It's pretty crazy now that Succession is over that he's also in Super Troopers. That's the career you want. Yes. That is 100%. What is the definition of a great career? Super Troopers 2. Uh-huh. Not even 1. Yes. Super Troopers 2, Succession. Exactly. Brian Cox, ladies and gentlemen. Yeah.
I think I speed bag a prosthetic penis. In fact, I know I do. Cause you're not, it's not like, I think, did I do that? I might've, I don't know. I think I may have speed bagged a penis. It's something you don't forget. But Jay Chandasekar, who is the genius in Broken Lizard, who makes the Super Troopers movies. He came up to me, I'll never forget on the set one day and he's like super nervous. Yeah.
I'm just, the guys and I have this idea. And look, if you don't want to do it, you don't, you don't, I mean, really like, like you don't have to, I just want to say before I say, you don't have to do really like at all. There's like a no, super no pressure. You know what I'm saying? I'm like, bro, what is it? Cause well, like we were thinking maybe his penis would be out and maybe you would like kind of just yank on it. I'm like, I'm in, I mean, you had me at penis and yank.
So, like, you know when you, like, sadly pass away and the Oscars does your in memoriam? You want it. I want, I really want it to be. You want it to be the... Me going, quink, quink, quink. I forget whose penis it is in Super Troopers 2. I think that would be... That would be, it would definitely...
lighten up the mood during that segment. You know, not to say that I'm self-aware. I am. But like, do you ever get like where you're doing a scene where you exit and you get to a doorway and you open the door and you turn around for one more line and you go, did I just shoot my... Did I just shoot the clip that they're going to show when I die? I think I might have. See, for me... You got to watch out for doorways. I'm more like...
I'm more like, if I would do it, it would be, will I now make it into that segment? You need just a little bit more in the IMDB and you'll cross over into where I am, where I'm like, no, I'm going to be in it. The question is, what is it going to be? Yeah, see, this is actually funny because my thing is, this is actually, you were actually on this plane when we were leaving Hawaii. I get on the plane.
And I see Don Cheadle. And I'm like, wow, Don Cheadle. Keep walking and I see Dave Grohl. Dave Grohl. And then you get on. And I'm sitting there. I'm like, this is a crazy plane. And then I go, oh man, if this plane goes down,
I won't even trend on Twitter. You will be and others. I might be mentioned in this small print, but this is not Jimmy Tastro's plane goes down. No, this is Rob Lowe's plane goes down. This is Dave Grohl's plane. Don Cheadle. I had that with, I was on a private small plane with Wayne Gretzky and
At the height, he's like still playing for the Edmonton Oilers with like four Stanley Cups. One of the biggest athletes. Me, Wayne Gretzky, the great musician David Foster, and Alan Thicke, who was a Canadian icon and of course did many TV shows. And we had engine failure and we knew it. Oh, no. So we knew the plane was in real trouble. And we all spent this big argument about who would be first in the race.
in the plane crash. We survived, obviously. We decided that if it went down in the United States, I had a good shot at it. But if it went down in Canada, there was no doubt it was going to be Gretzky. And that's when Alan Thicke said he would be and others. Yeah, I mean, no. By the way, when did this take such a dark turn? I don't, you know, I think it's a funny turn, actually. Been meaning to discuss this with you for a while, actually. So good. All right, tell me about...
bros of Simi Valley let me ask you this you are so good at the bro thing it's so do people when people meet you they I bet you they feel like they know you went to school with you yeah so people screwed their sister a lot of that that's what I'm getting it's the energy I'm getting allegedly no I um it was actually a lot worse in in college I was like uh
Like I started in college making YouTube videos and a lot of them were like I was making fun of like frat guys and then it was like very college like just college themed videos and when you're on YouTube, there's no um, like you feel like you can just go up to someone and just like grab them and so people would be super aggressive with me and like Jump on me and and it started getting like kind of not not cool for a while and I think now
that I've been in shows and movies and I've acted in other things, people realize that that's not me. It's not a real... I'm not the character. Right. But they used to treat me like the character and then be super bummed when the energy wasn't reciprocated. You know, they'd come up to me on some like, let's take a shot. And I'd be like, dude, it's 2 p.m. And I'm like having a pretty casual lunch. And then you'd watch them turn and just go from like, uh-oh, like, wait,
fuck you. I love you, man. Let's do a shot. No, I don't want to. Fuck you. Yeah. They're like, you fucking suck, dude. And then I'd like go on Twitter and then they'd tweet like, Matt, Jimmy Tate's really the fucking dick. I'm like, damn. But no, it's calmed down a lot. People are much nicer now. And I think that the real bros of Simi Valley, the characters are so over the top. Like my character in that, I have like a soul patch. I wear these like
that look like they were ripped off of a transformer. They call those fast glasses? Do you know that? Yeah. Why are they called fast glasses? I think it's because you look like you're going very fast and they're wrapped around you. Like they're aerodynamic looking. Yeah. But I always go up to someone when they're wearing a fast glass. I'm like, what's the speed limit on those bad boys?
These are at least 120 right now. That's funny on those bad boys. I saw someone in a bar wearing them one time and I just pulled up a speed limit 100 and I was just like,
Gotta get out of here, brother. You're going way too fast with those bad boys on. You should have your own line of them. Your character should. Yeah, that is. I think you need an endorsement deal. Yeah. We do have a, what we did with the show that I'm actually super proud of is all the characters had Instagram accounts.
So the show came out weekly and we had 12 characters all posting as if the show was real life. Oh, that's great. So like he'd post a photo with like my, I'd post a photo with my baby on, on Wednesday. Be like my best friend because my friend had beef with my baby and
And then on Friday, the episode would come out and he'd pull up the photo and be like, you see this? My best friend. So then it like looped the audience in and they could like get teased with little snippets of information. So when they'd see the episode,
They'd like have way more info. But we did a clothing line in the show that we launched in real life called Dunk Surf. And maybe Dunk Surf needs to release a pair of fast glasses. Dunk Surf. Yeah. Val Surf. Well, so... Right? We shot at Val Surf. Amazing. For season one. And then for season two, they wouldn't let us shoot there. So we changed it to Cal Surf.
And Christopher McDonald plays Cal Surf. Yep. So we just made his name Cal Surf. And then Duncan, his son is Duncan Surf. So then Duncan splits from Cal and starts his own rival surf shop called Dunk Surf. Amazing.
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Tony Alvin, all the OG, like the Dogtown documentary. What's the kid? The kid, the famous kid. I mean. Jay. Jay. He was played by Emile Hirsch. Yeah. The Dogtown gang. How did Santa Monica become Dogtown? I want to know. It's kind of interesting. I could spend a lot of time in Santa Monica and never go, you know what? Good nickname for this place. Dogtown.
Even if I saw a million dogs, it would probably never come to mind. Wouldn't occur to me. No, you'd be walking down the street, see dog after dog. I would never go dog town. Maybe because everybody had the dog. Because they got that dog in. You got that dog in you. I think that's probably what it is. That's the Santa Monica. The Samohai boys got that dog. Did you play football in high school? I played football freshman year.
And quickly realized I didn't care enough to continue on given the amount of danger involved with. You take a couple hits and you realize they want it more than me. That's my brother, Chad Lowe.
Huge football fan, fan, huge football fan. Can't wait to play Pop Warner. Football this, football that, football the other thing. Gets his uniform, gets his cleats, gets his things running around the house, doing pushups, working out, the whole fucking thing. He lasted five minutes. He got hit once. That's all it takes. He got hit once. He was like, nope. Yeah. Nope, nope. I just went, you want it more than me. And I'm okay with that. Right? I'm going to respectfully...
Demure. Stick with basketball. Yeah. It's there are people that legitimately Chuck Liddell. I live in Santa Barbara. He's a went grew up in Chuck Liddell grew up in Santa Barbara and there's still legends of him as a kid. And the legend was he loved nothing more than getting the shit pounded out of him.
So like there are people that love to be hit. Like, yes, yes, let's go. And those are the people that are great at those things. My friend was telling me, he was like, you're either the hammer or the nail in football. And the guys that aren't thinking about their physical well-being are the hammer, which makes me the nail.
I don't want to be the nail. I don't want to be, never be the nail. I'd rather not be involved in that construction project. No, that's, that's not, that's not a good thing. Tell me about your, I'm going to go back and talk just really quickly about the, the Topher Grace show you do with Topher. Yeah, yeah, yeah. How was that coming off of
which is very kind of a very specific genre. Doing that was just like right down the middle, really commercial. Yeah. Very traditional. How did you enjoy it? Was it different? What were your thoughts? Because they're really different types of shows. Yeah.
It was definitely very different. I had done one before that. I'd done the guest book, which was another kind of more network thing before that. But that was just one season. So this was like, it was definitely took some adapting because I'm so used to the more freeform way of talking and dialogue not needing to be so...
like word for word. Right. And they really were flexible on that show with like letting me kind of say things in ways that were a little more comfortable. But it definitely was a bit of a change. Like it felt at times a little constraining when you're really trying to stick to a time. Yeah. When it has to be 22 minutes, you really can't let something...
breathe in a way that might feel more organic. That's why I've always thought that there should be a separate category for anything on a network in terms of awards. Not that I believe in awards either way, but like just the constraint you're on making a time or having to have commercial breaks. Yeah. It's just not fair to the storytellers. It's just, I mean, it's a discipline. Great shows have done it, but it's such an unfair advantage to not have to be
You know, let something like be 35 minutes if you want it to. That's right. Or 28 minutes the next week. Like that time thing is really, it can be constraining. But I really did enjoy, I liked the, it's like the only thing in this business that can feel like a normal job kind of, like you're showing up to work every day. Like you have your parking space and like you know everybody. And I also like when every, it's like when you go to an indie movie or just a movie, like there's that,
calibration period where you're getting to know everybody and like you don't know if people are going to be great. Like, you know, your hair person like butchers your hair day one and you're like, oh, fuck. This is going to be a long shoot. This is going to be a long shoot. But with something like that, you show up, everyone's good at their jobs and like you get, you get into a nice rhythm. So I did like that a lot. Do you, what do you, do you prefer the network or the... I like, I, they're both so different. I like them equally for their
different appeals. But I think comedy, comedy is tough right now. There's not, I mean, there's not a lot for me. You know, my show I do with Johnny, my son, Unstable, our second season is coming out August 1st on Netflix. And we're super fortunate because there aren't that many shows that are being made that are just trying to push the limits of comedy, which we are. Everything now is
Has a sort of edge to it. And it has a lot of dramedy to it. Like the notion that the bear, I love the bear, but I don't find the bear to be a comedy. Yeah. I'm not laughing out loud at the bear. I think the bear is a great show, but I'm not watching the bear to laugh. No, these are, this is, I'm like old school parks and rec 30 rock. Yeah. The office, uh,
Like, I also, I've been rewatching. I mean, I grew up watching the Seinfeld and I've been rewatching a lot of Seinfeld. How does it hold up? It holds up really well. Does it? I am like really enjoying it and I've seen them all, but I just didn't. I, yeah, I loved it and I still love it. And it's just nice to. They don't make stuff like that. Yeah. They really. It's just like.
They're just hanging out. Like the little moments when they're like waiting for someone to get here. And then he like says something like, hey, you know, you've been useful. Say some random line that has nothing to do with the story. Like little things like that just make me laugh. And I'm like, that was just a pointless line. Yeah. Oh, you know what else is great? It's always sunny in Philadelphia. Yeah. They're in like their 17th season or something. Yeah.
Something crazy. I didn't know it was still... Whatever it is, it's insane. That's crazy. Those guys are great. Yeah. But I love doing all that. When are we going to do our comedy? We need to have you on Unstable Season 3. Do it. So you need to watch Season 2, August 1st. Yeah. I'm going to watch Simi Bros. Real Bros of Simi Valley. And then we're going to concoct...
a character. I think you and Fred Armisen is on our show, who I just think is the funniest. He's so funny. He's a murderer. He's like... Comedy murderer. So, yeah, is he just killing you on set? And this season, we just turned him...
as you should. It's like giving the ball to LeBron and go, just go to the hoop. We're going to clear out. I feel like he's one of those guys, I haven't worked with him, but just seeing the way he acts, it seems like he's doing so much more in person that you're not even able to like really convey on the screen. No one, I mean, his ability to find a character and do it. I mean, just on SNL, you go, what's your favorite Fred Armisen character? I don't know where to begin. Yeah.
I don't even know where to begin. And then you have Portlandia. Then you have Documentary Now. By the way, if you guys haven't seen Documentary Now, well, it's like, I guess what I am is I'm obsessed with comedic documentaries. Yeah. I mean, that's what this interview is coming full circle. It's like Documentary Now, Vandal. It's just a great, it's just a great genre. It is. The Documentary Now, when they made fun of Vice, was they just keep dying. It's amazing. And he makes them for nothing.
He just goes out and makes them, which is what you started doing on YouTube. Yeah. That's what we should, everybody out there, just start being funny. Grab a cane and be funny. Anyway, this is great, brother. I'm excited to see you. We have a golf date. Got to get on that celebrity plane back to Hawaii. Let's do it. Let's survive it.
I'll get on a separate plane. You guys go. I'll take my own just in case. Just in case. Just in case. Yeah. And we just got to. But we'll convene out there. We will. Okay. We'll convene there. We won't fly together. We won't fly together just so that you can have your moment, not going to have my moment in worst case. But then once we're there, we'll, you know, we'll hit the links. Yeah. We're going to make it happen. All right, brother. All right, man. That was fun.
That's my guy. Hope you had fun with him. I love Jimmy. So good. Not sure about the mustache, if I'm being totally honest. But he was going to Mexico, as he says. So, you know, as one does, he had to have a mustache. I think you should shave it. That's just me. Thanks to Walmart for sponsoring today's Lowdown Line. Hello, you've reached literally in our Lowdown Line, where you can get the lowdown on all things about me, Rob Lowe. 323-570-5705.
So have at it. Here's the beep. Hey, Rob. This is Philip calling in from Atlanta. I consider you to be a stylish guy, and I've got a bunch of summer trips coming up and seriously need to upgrade my wardrobe. So I'm curious, what are your top three clothing must-haves for the summer? Appreciate your help, man. Okay, well, summer. You got to have stylish shorts. I know a lot of guys don't like to wear shorts.
Truth be told, if I could live my whole life and not wear them, I would do that. But you're in Atlanta, bruh. You got to have shorts. And look, my personal thing is I don't want cargo pant shorts. It's all about where they hit you on the leg. That's really the thing. When you go and try them on, you want to hit them in a place in your leg that doesn't make your leg look short. And you're going to find that that is obviously about...
A fist level above your kneecap, I think, is where you want your shorts to fit you. And most, a lot of guys screw that up.
And then it's a question of how fitted you want them. And that's a body, what your body shape is a big part of that. But the more fitted they can be, the better they're going to look. But don't go too fitted or you're going to look like Pierre who is done in Capri and he is lost in Atlanta and he does not know where is the peach tree. Everything is a peach tree there. Why so many peach trees in Atlanta? You don't want to be that guy.
And the other thing is a good polo. Super important. And then what you're doing with the shoes in the South, you can do this sort of Dockers vibe. That's, that's part of the uniform there. And I love it. And I,
If you're going to, if you're going to like live in an area of the country, like lean into some of the stuff you can do there. You can't wear your dockers out in California. Can't do it here. Um, so that, that kind of vibe is good. Um, we can have a debate about advisor. We can have that debate, you know, basics, shorts and, uh, polo. And, um, there you have it. Thanks for the, thanks for the call.
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