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Oh, yes. Yes, yes, yes. She's been in so many iconic, culty fan favorites. Party of Five, Scream, The Craft. And she's lovely and sweet as can be. This is a really, really good one. So hang on. Here we come with Neve Campbell.

I'm trying to think if we've ever met properly. We met at Stephen Dorff's 40th birthday party. Oh, my. The minute you get Stephen Dorff mentioned, you better be fucking rolling. That's all I know. So we met at Stephen Dorff's 30th birthday party.

By the way, it sounds like a Sofia Coppola movie in the making. Yeah, it does. And actually, I didn't remember this. My cousin, Colleen, who you sat, you guys had a night lovely chat for a good hour, I think. She told me. Oh, my goodness. See, I mean, like, well, you know, you've been doing it a long time like me. And there's so many things you remember. There are also so many things you forget.

I know. It's crazy the amount that you forget. Colleen is actually my memory bank. Yeah. Because it's too much. I think not one human being can remember that many events. Can you imagine the torture if you remembered absolutely everything in your life? I don't think I want to remember everything. I don't remember anything. I know.

Are you excited about the movie comes out? I don't know when we're going to air this podcast, but it comes out this week. It does. What was it like going back and being with everybody and just revisiting such a big part of your life?

Um, great. You know, uh, Courtney and David and I, Courtney Cox and David Arquette and I, um, you know, have known each other now 25 years and, um, we've been making these movies for 25 years, which is nuts. Nuts. Yeah. Did they meet, did they meet, meet on this?

They met. Yeah. And their daughter is Coco, right? Yeah. And she was the cutest little girl. God, she was so... She must be how old now? I think she's just about to go to college and... Oh my God. Kill me now. 18, I think. Yeah. Isn't that nuts? Yeah. It's nuts. But no, it feels good. It's... I mean...

I was apprehensive about doing this one because we lost Wes, obviously. Craven, who was the reason these movies are what they are and this franchise is what it is. And he was very much like a father figure to us as well. We were all so young when we started on it. And it was the beginning of our careers and...

So these movies mean a lot, you know, a lot more. Yeah. Just what they are. But you know, the, the new guys, Matt and Tyler, they just, they're, they actually became directors because of Wes Craven and they, they directed their movie ready or not, which is actually a great movie. I don't normally watch horror films to be honest, but it's a great movie. And they made that because of scream. So you,

you couldn't find better people to jump in because their enthusiasm was intoxicating. And, you know, they just, they were like pinching themselves. I couldn't believe that they were getting to make this movie. In fact, Matt, my first scene, he was watching the monitor and he forgot to say cut because he thought he was watching the next Scream movie. Oh, that's amazing. Which was really sweet. Really sweet. I mean, it's, it's a,

I mean, the first Scream was such a big deal. They all were, but I remember it just revolutionized, like revitalized. Now horror is, I mean, such a huge genre now, but it wasn't necessarily then. I mean, obviously there are movies that worked a lot, but it wasn't like it is now. Yeah, it had taken a minute. It had taken a break. I think people had gotten sick of them.

And then Scream came around and it was probably good timing as well. But I think the fact that it, you know, it took a look at the, the,

genre itself and was self-referential and it was fresh and new and had humor as well and also I mean some of our all of the actors um brought a lot to it you know just great movie I think they did a really good job casting it and funny horror for lack of a better term is super hard to pull off really hard to pull off yeah I mean that is a target that I mean

Most people, you know, I'm friendly with... Oh my God, this is going to drop. I mean, I'm friendly. I know Jason Blum, Blumhouse, you know, who's the king of horror at the moment and has been for a long time. And he... I was like, where can we find our American werewolf in London? To me, that's the ultimate funny horror. And he's like, I won't try. I will not even attempt a funny horror. It's...

too hard to do. Wow. Wow. Interesting. Yeah. It's really challenging. Kevin Williamson, I think he wrote the script over a weekend. He had the idea suddenly and just sat down and penned a page, you know. Yeah, it just came out like that. Yeah, just came out. And it feels, it felt like that when you read it, you know, it just, page turner, you couldn't, you couldn't stop reading it. And he did it. It was incredible. Yeah.

And Drew Barrymore was like nobody ever... That was the great calling card of the movie. It's like people could not believe. They thought she was going to be the Jamie Lee Curtis of it. Well, exactly. You're going to be brave enough to kill Drew Barrymore in the first 15 minutes. You might have something. You know what I mean? Right? Yeah. We actually... David and Courtney and I just did her show last week. How was that? I've seen parts of it and it's... I've known Drew...

Oh, boy. Oh, my God. I think maybe since she was 14. Wow. Yeah. And she's such a character. Yeah. There's no one like her. That's for sure. And...

What I've seen of her show is it's exactly what you, what you would want a Drew Barrymore talk show to be. Yeah. Which is her telling all her anecdotes. Yeah. I saw a clip. There's a clip like on YouTube making the rounds. Cause you guys are right in the middle of the big press tour. Okay. And she was asking, what is it? She was at, it was so Drew Barrymore. What was she talking about? Do you remember? What did you guys talk about? I haven't seen the clips. Um,

She, I mean, she went, she went there. I mean, she went, got into like drugs and, uh, I think she said she, when she was young, she would drink at 10, do coke at 12 and then something at five. I can't remember what it was. So she had a dad of like chronologically, uh, um, um,

It was interesting because she did the movie with us, obviously, but we didn't actually work with her. We knew her at the time because we were doing read-throughs and there was a gathering at Wes's and we would do some interviews after the movie came out and stuff. But unfortunately, I didn't actually get to work with her. So it was really interesting to listen to her experience on it and what it meant to her and for us to express that as well. But I'm not sure what the clip would have been that you saw.

Whatever it was. She just goes off, doesn't she? She just... It was like, I'm not sure where this is going, but I'm really loving it. What was Wes Craven like? I got to work with Stephen King. I've actually done two Stephen King things. And the first one, The Stand, Stephen wrote himself, adapted his own classic book and was on set the whole time. And... How was that? He's the loveliest. Yeah. The like...

unassuming. My just brief Stephen King story I'll never forget was we were going to see a basketball game together and we're walking through a parking garage and we were lost. And just one of those monolithic parking garages with 75 levels and everything looks the same. He's like, parking garages, parking garages are scary. Yeah.

I was like, well, here comes a book. You just know it. And was there? I wonder. I wonder. Well, there have got to be Stephen King freaks listening. Yeah. Is there a Stephen King parking garage opus? Because if there was, I was at its inception. Wow, that's great. You know, Wes was... Similarly, I guess, you expect these people to be really sick and twisted. And yes, I mean, Wes had a sick and twisted sense of humor. And obviously...

had an angle on the world that was interesting, but a sweetheart, like a gentle, gentle. When he walked, he was like long and tall and gentle. And when he walked, it was like a gazelle. Wow. So graceful and just really sweet and had a great giggle. Loved to have a giggle. And then he loved to giggle at really violent things too, like in the movie. He would just sit at the monitor like...

I love that. Isn't that the best when there's somebody behind the monitor that has a giggle? Oh, yes. And when it ruins takes, it's the best. Yeah, because you know you've done your job. Yes, yes. Top giggler of all time in my life, without a doubt, no one as close as Amy Poehler. Oh, really? Yeah, she has a cackle. Well, she doesn't have a cackle. She has a giggle. She has a cackle. Literally like...

Brilliant. So you'd know if you were being funny because you'd hear Amy cackling away. Great. I love it. Ricky Gervais, another great giggler. Oh my gosh.

I had dinner with Ricky once in London and met his wife, who's really lovely and has great books. I like her books. Yep. And what a nice guy. Yeah, he is amazing. So, Scream. Yeah. Get out of your pajamas. Go sit in the theater. You gotta want it. If you want Scream, you gotta want it. You gotta get into the world.

It's such a fun movie to see it in theater. It really is. Well, that's the other thing. You must have sat in theaters with any of the screams where people were like, don't open that door! Yes!

For sure. Of course. But you know, this is the kind of movie... Well, I certainly know that people have come up to me and said when the first one came out, they went 20 times, 30 times because it's just the kind of movie that's so much fun to see with an audience. Because you're at the edge of your seat and everyone's screaming at the screen at the same time and laughing. And it's just a joy. How old were you when you started? You were youngish. When I started everything or when I started Scream? Yeah.

No, when you started the whole, when you started in this wonderful business we call the Dream Factory. Well, professionally, so I started out as a ballet dancer. I started dancing when I was six and I was at the National Ballet School of Canada when I was 15. And at 14, I left the National Ballet School. And at 15, I

I did my first audition just turning 15, did my first audition, which was the Phantom of the Opera. And it was the original Canadian cast. And Hal Prince was directing it. And it was just one of those. I mean, I literally, I didn't even know what Phantom of the Opera was. And some ballet dancer friends of mine were going to the audition and said, you should come. And my mom was like, yeah, just go for the audition experience. You know, just go to know what it is to audition. And I went and I

And it was thousands of dancers auditioning from all over. And I just kept getting called back and called back and called back. And it was the most surreal few days because the audition process happened over a week. And yeah, I ended up one of the six ballet digout girls in Phantom of the Opera and understudying Meg when I was 15. Jeez.

Yeah. Yeah. I love that show so much. I know it's not like hip or cool to say it, but good Lord, do I love that show? That show. Oh my God, it's insane. Come on. And we had Colm Wilkinson, who is the Phantom. Yeah, the Phantom. The Phantom, the best one. And who's just, I could listen to him sing that show or anything for the rest of my life all day. Just a phenomenal singer. I finally saw it in London last year.

years and years and years and years. Later. Later. I mean, it had been running for... And I knew every note of it, right? I mean, I knew the music and was obsessed with it. I love that. Phantom geek. Oh, total fan. I'm a total musical comedy nerd. One billion percent. But I went and saw it and it had... It's so funny. I was thinking, what is it about this show I'm seeing? Because it had the feel of...

A little bit of a Disney Cruise version in that it had been going for so long that it felt a little like it had been going for so long, but it was still undeniable. Yeah. Now, did you ever meet Andrew Lloyd Webber? Yeah.

I did. I did. He came to our opening because we were the original Canadian cast. At that huge theater. What theater was it? An ambitious theater. Yeah. Garth Drabinski. This was in Toronto. Yes. In Toronto. And Garth Drabinski. Legend. Legend. Yeah. This is when he'd sort of been kicked out of the film world and decided, well, fine. He had some golden handshake from Subplex Odeon. That's right.

and said, okay, fine. And within a year was brought musical theater to Canada. I mean, other, other than Ed Mirvish, who was doing Les Mis, Garth just, he was like, okay, I'm going to take this, what was the old Pentagis and refurbish it. And it had been turned into, I think cinemas and he turned it back into this beautiful theater. But,

built yeah rebuilt the theater opened the show and then he went from show to show to show and won all kinds of awards and just you know one of those real I saw his version of um Riverboat yeah in Canada yeah oh okay yeah you know what was interesting with Garth he he would come in

to the theater or come into the rehearsal halls from the very beginning, almost every day. And he would sit in the seats, the back of the rehearsal hall and just cry. And I still wonder what is it? But you know what is? Garth was one of the last people to have uncured folio. Wow. Yeah. Walked with like a really heavy leg.

And the Phantom, that's what it's about. It's about someone who is disfigured, who, uh, yeah. You know, yearns for love and tries to overcome and becomes a bit of a tyrant. And, uh, it was really interesting. Wow. That is really interesting. Yeah. What, what is your, um, favorite Phantom song? So many great ones on that. Oh gosh. Um, um,

Music of my life. Music of the night. Music of the night, yeah. It has to be music of the night, right? Yeah. You know what was so weird? I did two years of that at my 16th birthday in the green room backstage. I did 800 shows. Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait. You did 800 shows? 800 shows in two years. So you think about people who do it 10 years or 12, and there are those people. And I remember Colm saying to me, Wilkinson, because I had...

During Phantom and Agent, I'm all... Wait, so 800 shows. Yeah. It's a lot, isn't it? It's a lot of pointe shoes. It's a lot of pointe shoes. You know what it is? Once you get above 100, anything beyond 100 is a lot of shows in the theater. It's a lot. Is it true that one of your first paying jobs was a Coca-Cola commercial? And I have a reason for asking this. Yes. Yes.

My first job was a Coca-Cola commercial. Oh my goodness. We're in a good club. What was your Coke commercial like? My Coke commercial was actually a tour for Bryan Adams called Waking Up the Nation. So it was Bryan Adams and his band and me.

with crimped hair. Yeah, for sure. In a white t-shirt. You were doing your version of Courtney Cox with Bruce Springsteen. Yes, exactly. I didn't know that at the time, but yes. That probably literally is. I'll bet you if you went back and asked Brian, he's like, yeah, and I wanted to do my version of

Courtney and Bruce. Exactly right. Yeah. I would imagine so. So yeah, that was my commercial. What was your commercial? Mine was the first commercial ever made exclusively for the Super Bowl. Oh, cool. It was in 1977. And it was, they spent a million dollars on the set. And it was a four-story New York tenement set.

in a soundstage. I don't think I'd ever been on a soundstage in Hollywood before. And it was a single shot commercial.

And the camera panned up from the street where me, where I was a little boy playing on the stoop. And I looked up and that motivated the camera. And the camera went up, the crane craned up and looked in all the windows. And in each window was a tableau of people living their lives and drinking Coke till it got to the roof. And there was a guy singing the new Coke theme. Wow. His guitar on the roof is way ahead of its time and super, super,

Super arty. And I think it only ran like once or twice. Wow. Really? But I got my... That was my Taft Hartley, as they say. That's when you get in the union for the first time. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. That and Tampax and McDonald's. I was a McDonald's girl, like in the McDonald's uniform. We brought McDonald's value home. It's in your mailbox. I still remember my lines. Oh my God.

Mine was Carl's Jr., which is a chain on the West Coast. And that was me and Regis Philbin. What? Yeah. And I remember my line from mine was, we've got taste. I've got taste.

Isn't it funny that we remember them? You probably can't remember a fucking line from Scream. No. You can remember the McDonald's commercial. Oh, yeah. Of course. Because I had to get it right. Yes. Oh, and by the way, are there any folks more uptight and wanting to get it right and more sticklers than the people in commercials? No. They're on it, man. I mean, they make Aaron Sorkin look like a slacker. Yes.

So true. Oh my God. They're like, um, so that was great. Could you just maybe, maybe a little more energy when you're talking about the food? On this word, not on this line. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's funny. Yeah.

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While you still can. At participating McDonald's for a limited time while supplies last. Now, this is also funny. I get, I've got great folks who help me research people. And one of the things that shows up in your research is she knew nothing about pop culture. You should know. How should you right here? Here's Neve Campbell. There you are. That's your life.

Yeah. Shrunken down into bullet points. Awesome. The one, two, three, four, five, six, seven. The seventh bullet point about you is that you know nothing about pop culture. Yeah. Now, when you say you know nothing about pop culture, how bad is it? What stage? Yeah. How ignorant are you of pop culture? Unbelievably ignorant.

Um, unbelievable. Oh, someone told me the other day that the weekend, uh, has me in his song, a song of his that just dropped has my name. And I said, which weekend? I love, by the way, I love you for that. That's amazing. Here's what I like about you already. The way, cause I have another friend who knows, I'm going to drop the name. Fuck it. Gwyneth Paltrow. She knows nothing about pop culture. Nothing, literally nothing.

Yeah. And, and, but she has a way of when she doesn't know it, there's, and I love her to pieces and she's, you know, she's the godmother to my son.

So I can get away with saying this. But she has a way... It's also a signal, a not-so-subtle signal, that she really doesn't give a fuck about that particular person, which makes me laugh. It's very sort of bitchy and funny. Yours is totally like blithe and innocent. Oh, man. And you're like, I just don't know what weekend. I literally don't know. I want to be that. How can I get...

I look, I don't, I'm not a pop culture person. Yeah. Then that way, but I do this show and I like, I like, but, but I have to know, I'm not comfortable telling people I don't know something. And that's, that's on me. That's a flaw. It's a character flaw. Yeah. I don't have a problem with that because there's so much, I don't know. Like I wouldn't be able to get away with it. Honestly, you know, I, growing up in the ballet world, it was so insular. Um,

I mean, you literally, all you pay, especially at the National Ballet School, all you paid attention to was the dancers in which company and what company you hoped to move to, which contemporary company or ballet company or just. And I knew even as a young child, the companies around the world, I couldn't tell you anything else because we weren't taught it.

We weren't around it. It wasn't part of the discussion. Also, my parents never really into pop culture. So whatever that word means even. But I can tell you things like Francis Ford Coppola had, I think, a script that he's been trying to make for maybe 30 years.

Called Megalopolis. Megalopolis. I was going to say, is this Megalopolis? Megalopolis. And I was called to do a reading with John Voight and Sean Penn and a whole slew of wonderful people in San Francisco in Francis's building. And they served a lunch downstairs and we went down in the studio and we recorded this. And when my agents called me to tell me about it, I didn't know who Francis was.

Okay, wait a minute. Okay, I have so many questions here. I have so many questions. How long ago was this? Like what timeframe? I think I must have been 22 or 23, something like that. Wow. So he's made Godfather 1, Godfather 2, Apocalypse Now. Oh, The Outsiders. Do they who? Yep. Yep. Didn't know Francis. No. Isn't that awful? Yeah. But you know what? My dad...

Really likes musical theater also. And I saw, I luckily as a child went to the theater a lot, went to the ballet a lot, went to see a lot of theater. My dad was an amateur theater director and high school drama teacher for 35 years. Oh, wow. So I saw, and my mom owned a dinner theater. So I was always... A dinner theater. How great is that? Dinner theater that my brother used to act in. So I was around the theater a lot.

In Canada. But... First of all, I gotta ask you about Megalopolis because he's still trying to make it, you know. Gosh, I heard that. Yeah. It's so shocking to me that Francis Ford Coppola isn't getting loads of money to make films. You know what I mean? Oh, you're kidding me? I'd be like, who wouldn't want to see Francis's

dream project. Yeah. Do you remember anything about the reading or the script or the experience? It was so heartbreaking. I was sick. I had the worst cold, like flu cold and didn't get the script until I landed and got to my hotel room at

nine o'clock at night and the reading was the next day and the script was 300, I think pages. Oh my God. So I could barely breathe or think, let alone read a very complicated script. Um, they're kind of surrealist script. Uh, so I didn't know what I was, honestly didn't know what I was doing. I have no, I like, it was a cool experience. The read through because he had sound people doing sound effects and they

They recorded the whole thing. And I know that he's done lots of different recordings of this script over the years. He's done it on stage. He's done performances. He's done, from what I understand, a lot of different versions of readings of it. Gosh, do I wish I'd been older and known what I was reading and not been sick that day. Right? I mean, when you look back, so you, but you knew the movie, you would, you have known those movies though?

with the Godfather and all that. I think when they told me, I then watched the Godfather the next day before I flew that weekend. They actually, for my birthday, sent me a box of VHS of like 50 top most pop culture movies, which actually was a great way to receive all those films. I hadn't seen them. I hadn't grown up with them.

you know, um, great opportunity in my twenties to see all of that. But, um, it's great. And I, I recently, when I'm bored on a set, which is a lot of the time, um,

I've taken to making my list of classic movies and it's really... It's so fun to do. Oh, yeah. And then you try to put them in order, which gets really, really, really hard. Great. And... But it's funny, no matter how I shuffle the deck, Godfather 1 and 2 are...

It goes The Godfathers and Goodfellas. And I hate the fact, I hate that my top three movies are all Italian mafia movies because it makes me sound like I have a fetish about it. But those are the three best movies ever made. I'm sorry. They are. Yeah. See, my dad raised me, taking me to review cinemas. I saw a lot of foreign films.

like Leolo or Babette's Feast or like just so many foreign films as a young child that that became my taste really. Cinema Paradiso was like my favorite movie. It's a great one. So I think that's why also I just was not exposed to the normal. Yeah. Apparently you also...

when you hosted SNL had Bowie as your guest. Gosh, and I didn't know who Bowie was. Come on. I know it's so awful, like so wasted on me, right? I know, I know. But my friend Michael did like expose me to a bunch of Bowie's music the week that I was about to go. Did you meet Bowie? Of course, yeah. He was like a

like an alien. Yeah. I mean, he and, is it Iman? Iman, yes. They're like two, they don't, they're from another planet. They're from another, they were from another planet. Incredible. And he's one of the nicest. So nice. And then I did meet him like two more times after that. For some reason, I ended up introducing him at two different concerts also. I don't know. But what a nice person. What an amazing, magical man. Bowie. I mean,

I mean, just, you know, that great thing where you're the best knowledge. You're like, ladies and gentlemen, David Bowie. You're like, yeah, that works. Yeah, I like that. Ladies and gentlemen, have you seen the famous... I always forget that I sound so old. The difference between a meme and a gif, which is the one that has sound? I don't know.

I don't know. Somebody can help me with this. A meme is the one that has sound. Okay. The famous meme of Daniel Craig on SNL going, ladies and gentlemen, the weekend. Oh, wow. Oh, really? Yeah. And every Friday, it's all over social media. People just go, like introducing the weekend. You have to, it's the best, but it's perfect for you because it's introducing. Well, now I know who the weekend is. Now you know who the weekend. The weekend. Yeah. Thank you. Yeah.

My son just got his law degree and he was interning at an entertainment law firm. And he used to have to get future on the phone. Okay. Which made me laugh. It's not the future. It's future. It's future. So what would he have to... Future was obviously up to some hijinks and this lawyer was helping him out, but it would be like,

I have future on the phone for you, Mr. Stein. Future. It's kind of awesome. Isn't it? It's kind of awesome. It's great. I love people who have the balls to name themselves things like that.

Zendaya. Yeah. Right? You know, just going for it. Yeah. What would I, what you and I could have, you'd Nev. I would have just been Nev if I were you. That's such a great name. So then everybody said Neve, Neve. Oh, no, no, no. They were, they still were doing it. I'm like, wait a minute. It's never occurred to me ever to call you Neve. I never thought it was Neve. Even when I first heard of you, what is with people who think it's Neve? Well, it actually makes sense in the spelling. There's an E at the end.

I guess. I guess, but no, Nev. Well, and also Nev is a more common name from Ireland. Oh. Nev is not a name until my parents came up with it. And it's honestly, it's my mother's maiden name. She's Dutch. And they decided to pronounce it Nev in Canada. I would have just stuck with that. I mean, not that you needed any help. Your career is great. But if you were Nev, just plain, just Nev. Yeah. Yeah.

Right? That now, can you imagine? I think you need to do that. Getting rid of Campbell. Get rid of Campbell. Listen, I would be canceled so fast. If John, if John Mellencamp can get rid of John Cougar Mellencamp, you can get rid of Campbell. Yeah.

I think. Okay. But then you also had to start a band. Do you sing? No. I mean... How do you not sing with all your musical theater, theater, schmier, mier? You know what? I don't consider myself a singer. I'm a dancer-singer. Dancer-actor-singer. You know what I mean? Yes, I do. I know exactly. I have a song and I can carry a tune and...

I can learn a song and I can sing a song. So you're in Studio 54 called just 54. Yes, yes. So you're too young to have ever gone to the real Studio 54. Yeah, yeah. And also, I wouldn't have known that Studio 4 existed because I knew nothing about... You would have gone to Studio 47. No, no, it's 54, okay? Yeah.

I would have thought I was going to a ballet studio. I'd have gone up to like 54th Street and looked for the ballet studio. You would have come in tight. Well, that would have been probably about what people were... That's true. ...were doing in Studio 54. So yes, I was in Studio 54. Mike Myers, man, what a talent. Yeah. A talented guy. I mean, talk about a Toronto legend. Yeah. Yeah.

Oh, yeah. He was made whatever that is that we are knighted in Toronto. He's got the Canadian Legion of Honor. Oh, my goodness. And he's very fancy. Very fancy. It's as close to royalty as I know. They haven't even called me about my handprints. Yeah. And at the Garth Drabinsky multiplex right there on Yonge Street or whatever. Right? Exactly. I mean, how have you not been the Grand Marshalette of Tiff, as they call it? Yeah.

Canadians never found anything that they didn't want to make cute. And it's like, there's always like, it can't just be the Toronto Film Festival, which by the way, sounds adult. Yes. Of substance. Yes. And worthy. No, no, no. Now it's TIFF. But do you think they decided that? 100% they did. They're also the same folks that decided that base camp in a movie should be called the circus. Really?

Oh, he's broke down at the circus, eh? Is that a Canadian thing? Oh, there's a whole list of things in the movie business that you can trace directly to Canadian movies. Like when you forget your lines on a set. Yeah. There's a person sitting by the monitor.

who you would ask and who would that person be? Who would you ask to see? You would ask to see the... Continuity. Oh, even better. Good. Good for you. Script supervisor? That's what I was going to say, but in Canada, it's not. What are they saying? Scripty. Scripty. Yes. Yes.

Yes, you're right. I worked with, she was, she was scripty on the big red balloon. We did eight episodes together. Don't get me. This is my side obsession that we've now gone into the rabbit hole. Tim Hortons. It's true. It's true. Timmy's. Timmy's. Oh yeah. We, we stopped at Timmy's and got a crew, me and scripty. Yep. And then we, we took them all to the circus. That's right.

And you know who joined us? The DOP. The DOP joined us. The DOP. Not the Director of Photography. The DOP. Literally the Director of Photography. We like to get things correct. Oh, don't you though? We definitely follow our rules in Canada. It's unbelievable. Yeah. I would say the Canadians never met a rule they didn't want to follow.

Now wait, your parents are from... Did you say Denmark? No, my mom is from Amsterdam and my father is from Glasgow, Scotland. Okay, because I... Okay, because I have a friend who's Czech, Czech Republic, and they...

will not follow a rule oh no I think it's the eastern communists like they had to find a way to rebel for so many years like my friend who's a Czech is like the antithesis and they would put her away in jail in Canada in a week like she's that kind of person that like won't stop at a stop sign if there's a line she's gonna cut in it it's like in her culture literally made to break

Yes. Rules are made to be broken. Wow. And candidates' rules are made to be followed. Oh, and it's crazy because when you're... Which is more crazy making? Okay, what? Of those two. Well, what I found challenging coming from Canada originally was getting out of that mode coming anywhere else. Like, it was so funny to me. But now I'm at that place where I was shooting something. I went back to Canada to shoot something a couple of years ago. And I... It was...

I was in a tiny town. It was 10 o'clock at night. There was nobody but one couple across the street. There were no cars. And I crossed on a red light and they looked so aghast. Yes. The fact that I was crossing the street. I was like, people, really? I'm telling people, all of my Canadian friends will be going, yeah, that's the way we roll. And there are other people that are going to think that you're making that up. I know you're not.

I'm not making that up at all. Your son's nine? I have two sons. Oh, I didn't know. I have a nine-year-old and a boy who's almost four. And are they going to see Scream? No, not for a long time. I am... My boys are older. They're adults now. But I... It's funny because every parent has to figure out how they're going to navigate what their kids see and don't see and watch and don't watch. And my philosophy was always...

I probably let my kids watch stuff that they probably shouldn't have watched in terms of content and stuff like that. But they were things that were fucking awesome. And my thing was, I'd rather have my kids watching that than shit. Like what they could not watch in my house was something that was bad. Yeah. Like there was no bad Disney comedy crap. It was not happening in my house. Yeah. Nice.

You gotta teach him taste. You do. Although I gotta say, Rainer loves Disney movies. He just loves Disney movies. He has to do them. Good Disney movies are great. You know the ones I'm talking about with the sitcoms that they do. Yeah. Yes, I know what you're talking about. Absolutely. But good Disney movies are fantastic. Yeah, for sure. You've worked with so many interesting people. It's like...

Sissy Spacek and Jeremy Irons. Yeah. In Last Call. Yeah, that was an amazing experience. That was this wonderful writer-director, Henry Brumell, who was a dear, dear... Oh, yes, of course. Sadly passed away, but was one of my best friends. And just an incredible, just an incredible writer. One of those people who...

just loves human beings and will just sit and ask you questions after question. You knew he was a writer because he was just so, so curious about everybody and everything and everything that made people tick. And it was just, he was a delight, just a delight. And he wrote this wonderful script called Last Call, which was F. Scott Fitzgerald in the last year of his life when he was writing The Last Tycoon and about that time. And, um,

I played this wonderful woman named Frances Crowell Ring, who was his assistant for the last year of his life. And I actually got to know her on set. She was still with us at the time. So it was so phenomenal to sit with this woman who'd spent all this time with Frances. And yeah, and then Sissy, who just, isn't she just an incredible human being? She's amazing. And Jeremy Irons is in one of my favorite Canadian shows.

directed movies of all time, Dead Ringers. You ever seen that movie? Yeah, where he plays the twins. Is that right? Yes. Really good. Yeah. And Jeremy's a wonderful man. Never met him. Great guy. Great guy. I got to get him on the show because I make me wish. Oh, he would love that.

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We're going to talk Party of Five, of course. Party of Five. Now, how has there not been a reboot of that? How is that not? They actually did a new one. They did a new one. It wasn't a reunion. I thought it was a really interesting concept and I wish it had continued the idea. Because you know, Party of Five was about five kids who lost their parents in a car accident.

And this time around, it's five Mexican kids whose parents have been sent back across the border. Oh, wow. That's an interesting new take on that. It's a great, important thing to talk about. And I thought they did a really great job with it. But it's so hard now. I mean, there's just so much content out there. Yeah. I think it's hard for things to carry on. You know what I mean? Like when we did Party of Five...

We did not have a huge audience in the first year, but we had all these fans writing into TV Guide. The TV Guide saved us, actually. All these fans writing in saying, please save the show. We can't let it go. And that saved us. And they gave us the opportunity to stay on. But back then, if you were on a TV show...

The likelihood is that people watch... Someone had seen at least an episode because there weren't that many shows. Right. Now, I mean, I don't even know where to turn when I turn on the TV. I literally... There's so much content, I don't know where to start. I end up turning it off. You know what? You and I are separated at birth because I...

Just know it's going to be too hard to... Just even like the Beatles documentary, which I'm obsessed with. And it was everywhere in the zeitgeist. Everybody was talking about it. Everybody was texting about it. It was so hard to find. And I knew where it was on. Right. And you go to the main screen and like, how is that not on the main screen? Uh-huh. And wherever the hell it was, Apple Plus or Disney Plus, whatever it was.

Especially if it's following your algorithm, you would think it would pop up for you and it didn't. You would think. Right. I did a series, one of my first things in 1979. There were three networks.

And there were only 62 shows in existence. Oh, right. So there you go. 62. Yeah. I know it was 62 because we were number 62. We were literally the last place show on television. On all of TV. But they kept you. They kept me for 13 episodes they did. But now I can't even imagine. There's so much, which is great for young actors or all actors.

It's great and it's not great. It's great in the sense that there's a lot more jobs. So your likelihood of getting something and being employed is probably higher. But that's why I think they have to do all this social media now. Because to get people to actually know your name and know who you are, unless it's the sort of unique group that's watching your show because they're into that show, not everyone's going to know you. Well, I think about that a lot. Because my youngest son...

is a writer, actor. And what it means to make a name for yourself today and how you do it, it could not be more foreign or different than it was for me. And certainly, it's different than it even was 5, 10 years ago. Yeah. That you have to share your entire self to build an audience.

I don't know, you're losing kind of the magic, aren't you? Part of me feels like you share too much. I mean, nowadays, what people expect and want, but you share too much. How are you getting convinced people you're a character? Look, it's a fascinating conversation. And honestly, I don't know where I fall on it because it's like, I don't want... We didn't see Paul Newman coming out of a Starbucks. Nope.

Do you know what I mean? Which is why people say, why do people not watch the Oscars? Well, it's A, because most America never even knows about the movies they've nominated. But other than that, it's like you had to watch the Oscars if you wanted to see those stars in person. Yes. It's the only way you could see it. The only way. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Or if they were maybe on a talk show and most of the stars didn't do them. I mean...

Jack Nicholson's never done a talk show. Wow. Never. Warren Beatty, never done a talk show. And there was also, you know, a sort of sense that if you did that, you were sort of a sellout. Like you are working it too hard. Mm-hmm. Can you imagine that? Today would not fly. So crazy. Now they want you to do a TikTok at your house. Mm-hmm. Yeah. And it's in most actors' contracts now. Most people don't realize. I know. Yeah.

I'm so bad with social media. I literally... I'm on Instagram because Dwayne Johnson told me to do it. Well, there you go. Because I was doing a film with him and he was like, Neb, you got to get on this. And I thought, maybe I do.

And in the studios do ask you now they want you to promote their films with your, and so I'm only ever on when I'm, when I've got a film coming out because I'm being asked to do it very, very rarely do I ever post it. Every time I do post, I have to get out of my cousin to do it or someone to do it for me because I've forgotten how to do it. I do it so little. I found that I, I actually kind of like it and it's,

Yeah, I kind of like it. I mean, I just got on TikTok. Can I ask why? Like, what is it about it that feels good? Well, on Twitter, which I've pulled way back from because stuff that people have gotten so crazy with... Everybody takes offense at everything. Yeah. But Twitter, I loved in the glory days because it was a way to comment on...

Anything and everything you wanted to comment on, if you had a funny joke about something or you thought that you had an insight, you know, and also if you ever wanted to have a sort of free shot on goal, like go right directly to your audience without having to do a proper interview, it was great. And Instagram, Instagram,

is fun. I still do that. And TikTok is pretty... I don't do it a lot, but when I'm inspired to do something, I do it. And it's just... It's sort of fun. And like, you know, people who I never would have thought who... I figure if Anthony Hopkins...

can be an Instagram star, TikTok star, then it's okay by me. Is he? Huge. No way. Yes. What? Huge. 100%. That's something I want to see. That's so interesting. I just, for me, I never, I just, it's not me to stop in a moment to think, to take a picture of it. Do you know what I mean? Mm-hmm. I don't share photos of my kids. Um,

Just because I feel like that should be their choice later. Totally. Also, our second is adopted and I just feel like I think about his birth mother. Oh yeah. How that would feel to just have your, uh, the child that you bore popping up in pictures everywhere. I think that would be challenging.

You're not wrong. Right? The people who say, I don't do it, are not wrong. I mean, the... And there's an argument for why there aren't any real stars anymore is that there's no mystery. And yeah, that's what I was saying. It's like, I don't know how you can...

If you, if you reveal everything and you're trying to convince people that you're someone else as a character, it's, I don't know, isn't that more challenging? Um, but I don't know. It's, it's such an interesting thing because so many people are all over the map on it. And I'm, I don't know. It's,

I just know that for me, I don't stop to take photos. It makes me uncomfortable. I'm gun shy about it as well. I just know that people will jump, pounce if you do anything wrong. And it just terrifies me. Listen, you're not wrong. I totally, totally get it. But it's... I don't judge anybody for doing it in any way. It's just a personal...

Well, like you look at somebody like The Rock. I've never met The Rock. I mean, it's not true. I met him briefly and I grabbed his arms and they were unbelievable. I mean, his arm, his bicep, I had to kiss him in the scene and his head is like, it's very strange. And his arm, like his arm is...

way bigger than my thigh. Like, his forearm. It's just surreal. He's literally the rock. He's a rock. An actual rock. I like to call that, though. DJ. Oh, that's so interesting. He's a really nice guy. But he's the biggest... I think he's the biggest social media person in the world. He's the new iteration of...

of a movie star. He is. Yeah, absolutely. And what I love about him is his work ethic. No one works harder. Nobody. But you're right. And then he walks on set and you're like, hey, DJ. Everyone loves him. And for good reason. But it's like, you know, I was a child actor in an era before there was a lot of it, really. And you...

We're on time. No matter what, you learned your lines and you didn't get your hair messy. Right. I know. Well, and I'm a dancer. So I'm like, it's all about discipline on time. And I'm Canadian as well. So like, forget it, forget about it. You know, I don't think I've ever been late a day in my life. But that's just my work ethic. I get super agita, like anxious when I'm,

I don't mind being a little bit, like five minutes. Five minutes. Just so I'm not waiting on anyone else either. I don't do that at all. I might happen to be, I don't know. But beyond that, what do they call punctuality? It's the kindness of kings. Have you heard that one? I've not heard that, but I like it. How old were you when you started? Eight. Oh my gosh. In dinner theater.

Wow, really? Regional dinner theater in Ohio. Wow. You might be the most good human being I've ever met who's been involved in dinner theater some how. I will say you haven't really acted until you're delivering a monologue while busboys are clearing the plates. Yeah. Right? Who's a dinner theater... Here's my thing is like, are you saying...

It's not good. The dinner's not good enough to warrant coming for the dinner. And the theater's not good enough to warrant coming from the theater. But if you get both of them, then it's worth going to this place. Might have a nice evening. Yeah. Yeah. You know, were you aware of the Burt Reynolds Dinner Theater?

No. Of course you weren't. I forgot who I was talking to. You don't know who fucking David Bowie is. See, now you know me. Now I know you. Burt Reynolds, God rest him, had a dinner at the Burt Reynolds Dinner Theater. Just that phrase. I want to say it again. The Burt Reynolds Dinner Theater. It's the greatest thing I've ever heard of. In Jupiter, Florida. And people would go...

My friend Martin Sheen did Mr. Roberts at the Burt Reynolds Dinner Theater. Oh my gosh. It's a little like waiting for Guffman. It sounds a little bit like a Christopher Guest. It does.

I met Burt Reynolds. I went to one of these autograph signing things a few years ago and I was summoned to his table. And I thought, oh, that's the coolest. Yes. That's the coolest. And I went up and he had like orange, he had like some heavy tan skin on, big glasses and this fabulous suit.

Little man. He was a little man at that point. I have no idea why I was summoned. Oh, my God. And I went and shook his hand and did a photo with him. And it was really sweet. It was really nice to meet him. Tell me about these. See, it's funny. I was going to ask you about these. And then I got sidetracked about...

Scream, between Scream and Party of Five, that's a huge fan base, culty, like you could crush it. You could crush the personal appearance autograph circuit. Yeah. And The Craft as well. Of course. Yeah. That's got a big cult following. So what is, at one of those autograph shows, what is the vibe? Like who's there? What's it like?

So my first time going to this, I was really nervous. Like, are they going to be creepy? Who are these people? And you just realize it's like the nerdiest film geeks in the world who are all like-minded and can't wait to see each other, are excited to see each other and have a weekend together and so excited to meet you. It's just the sweetest, kindest,

Most wonderful. Honestly, it's a really wonderful experience. Especially when you're not in theater and you're doing film and stuff, you're not meeting your audience and you're not getting a sense of really how people feel about it.

I mean, I get people coming up with tattoos of Sidney Prescott on their calves and ask me to like autograph their arms. I'm like, I have the worst autograph in the world. I'm like, are you sure? I swear you're going to regret this. But so you get very surreal moments like that. I've even had parents bring their kid up and their kids got like a fake ax sticking out of their head. Oh my God. And they're like, it's your screams. They're his favorite, maybe like five-year-old, six-year-old. But...

These people love these movies. Just love them. And as I said, are just so happy to be around like-minded people. And yeah, I love it. I have a hard time with those things because I really like people. And it's super hard to get through a big lot because I want to... Where are you from? What are you doing? And everybody wants to say something and you want to say something to them. And...

You know, you can't... You literally cannot spend three minutes with every single person. You can't do it. You can't get through the line. Even honestly, like, 40 seconds. Like, I do give people time and I don't get through the line. But...

I really think these people have come to spend some money and, you know, they've maybe flown from somewhere and it means a lot. And so I guess I don't really understand it when some people don't talk. They literally just sign and they, you know, I don't get it. I'm incapable of doing it. Can't do it. You know what? Cause you're Canadian and you follow rules and that's, you know,

And I'm a Midwestern people pleaser. Yeah. So am I. People pleaser, for sure. But it's also just a nice thing to do, right? I mean, I don't understand it otherwise. What's the point? Yeah, it's so fun. Well, this is fun. I love... This is such a fun... I hope you had fun. Just a good little chat. We did. Right? Are you in the middle of a big press thing at the moment? Is that what's happening? Yeah. I just came from Kelly Clarkson. Oh, she's great, right? Gosh, what a sweetheart. Great, right? The best.

And she learns a song and sings a song every day. It's insane. How talented can you be? I love her show. Yeah.

And I love her. She's wonderful. Such a sweetheart. Yeah. So that was nice. Yeah. So just a whole lot of press and it's, what's nice is it's getting really well reviewed, you know, getting well received and, and, uh, people are enjoying it. So that's, that's what, that's the goal. It's going to be big. It's going to be a blockbuster. Who knows? Who knows? You never, you know, you never know. You never know. Especially with on the crown. Yeah. I mean, who knows what the people are going to want to go to the theater. Um,

I bet you they go. That's my bet. No, we'll see. By the way, I had fun making it and hopefully people will enjoy the film. For sure. Good luck. Break a leg. Have a good one. Thank you. Take care. Well, I hope you enjoyed that. I'm going to go take Scrifty to Crafty. There's Hot Pockets there, eh? How great is she, right? She gives me the warm and fuzzies.

And I'm psyched to see Scream. So go see Scream. Support our girl Nev. And I see the light is flashing on the answering machine here in the studio. That is the lowdown line. Hello. You've reached literally in our lowdown line where you can get the lowdown on all things about me, Rob Lowe. 323-570-4551. So have at it. Here's the beep.

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More seasons of The Low Files. We'd like it brought back. I can contact Annie on all of our behalf if need be. I think the question really is what's next for Rob Lowe? Is there more seasons of The Low Files? More firefighter stuff?

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I talk to them all the time about bringing back the low files and I'm wearing them down. The issue was they never put us where we should be. We should have been next to ancient aliens, which is a massive hit for them. And they put us there once and we crushed it, but that's where, so I think the show's great. I loved it. We were going to,

I mean, we have all these plans for the next season. We were going to go to Hawaii and do the Manahunis and the Nightmarchers, which are really freaky spirits of Hawaii. Loved it. So,

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