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Penn Jillette: Dice Stacking

2025/5/15
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Rob Lowe: 我认为 Penn Jillette 的观点总是非常疯狂和精彩,我喜欢和他聊天。他与 Teller 合作 50 年,并即将开始新的巡演。 Penn Jillette: 我和 Teller 合作了 50 年,人们好奇我们是如何一起度过这么长时间的。魔术本身并没有改变,但观众的期望改变了。过去,魔术师是科技前沿,但现在观众对科技的了解和我一样多。所以,魔术现在更多的是关于欺骗和手法。重要的是,观众不应该因为我的表演而相信任何我不相信的事情。我受到 James Randi 和 Houdini 的影响,他们都强调魔术的诚实性。Houdini 从一个逃脱艺术家转变为一个揭露虚假灵媒的人,因为他不想欺骗人们。我认为魔术应该是一种娱乐,而不是一种欺骗。我一直认为,未经同意的欺骗是不道德的。我与 David Blaine 在魔术的道德观上存在分歧,他认为魔术师的职责是混淆现实,但我认为魔术师的职责是娱乐,而不是欺骗。我喜欢那些不依赖大型幻觉,而是依赖手法和技巧的小型魔术表演。

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Penn Jillette reflects on 50 years of Penn & Teller, discussing the challenges of maintaining a successful partnership and how their show has adapted to changing audience expectations and technology. They've performed over 8,000 shows, far surpassing other iconic acts.
  • Penn & Teller are celebrating 50 years.
  • Their new tour includes larger venues like Radio City Music Hall and the Palladium in London.
  • The show has evolved to incorporate audience expectations of large-screen visuals.
  • They've performed over 8,000 shows.

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Penn and Rob wish they were invited to "We Are the World!" Magician, television presenter, and author Penn Jillette (of Penn & Teller) joins Rob Lowe to discuss his surprising favorite magic trick, the genius of Bob Dylan, 50 years of “Penn & Teller,” and his new novel.

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