Ralph Macchio: Johnny & Sodapop
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And as competitive as it all was, especially now at this age, all I do is root for all of us. Oh, right. Yes. Hey, everybody. Welcome to Literally. This is the second time one of my fave people is back on the show, the great Ralph Macchio. He's got the Cobra Kai universe is doing its thing with the new movie Karate Kid Legends.

which is play obviously he plays Daniel LaRusso, but alongside Jackie Chan, um, pretty sick movie. And of course he's like, you know, as a fellow outsider, I always feel like whenever I have some of the outsiders on the show, it's like my, um, college high school, but would have been nice. Yeah. I was eight. I was 17 when I, I was 17 when I met this guest. Let's just leave it at that. Ralph Macchio.

Let me see what's going on with this hair. Yeah, no, it looks amazing. Dude, we have hair. We do. Fuck yeah, baby. We do. All mine are named and numbered. We have hair. At times I see it go down the drain. I'm like, why? What have I ever done to you? I know. Why are you leaving me now? Do you like the hair? It's good. It's okay, right? Okay. You got good looks on the hair. Okay. We know Ralph has good hair. No, please.

Always. Wait, wait, let me put this on. There we go. Do you come from a long line of here sweet people? Like, is there male pattern baldness in your family? He totally is. My dad wears, you know, I mean, he's in his 80s now. But I would say in his late 30s, one day I was like, boy, dad's hair looks great.

because it was just this full head of hair. I always said that's how blind I was that he was wearing a piece at the time. A piece? Yeah. That's amazing. You know, I, Alison, I would wear it if I had to, but look, guys our age, you know. Hey, not many. We are in a select group of well-preserved. Well-preserved. Congrats on the movie, man. Thank you. You're back in theaters where you belong. It was kind of fun. Yeah, yeah. It was kind of nice to, you know, launch it on the big screen, get back there.

I mean, movies are so hard now. I know. It's big ideas, conceptual, opening weekend. What's your drop off the second weekend? And see you on Netflix. What was it like going through a movie experience as someone who

Did tons of them in the glory days. We were all doing them. And then, I mean, you were an early pioneer at YouTube. Yes. I mean, which I want to get to because that's now the place to be. Right. So it starts in YouTube, goes to Netflix.

Goes into theaters. I mean, it's been a whole journey for Cobra Kai. It has been. Well, you know, I mean, what's in the theaters is a separate ecosystem in the grand universe. Yes. In the Karate Kid universe. So, but Cobra Kai, yeah, came up. I mean, we pitched that, you know, eight years ago, wound up on YouTube Red. Yeah.

Which then became YouTube Premium. No. I see. So it was at the point that Google gave YouTube some cash to say, hey, we want to be in this scripted business. Yes.

And they soon realized they can make a lot more dough with someone doing some stunt, jumping out of a helicopter. Right. Than hiring a staff and setting up studios and paying actors to live someplace. But the show, they were... Suzanne Daniels was at Utah. I think she still is there. And she was the one who just said, I know you're going to go someplace else, but...

we don't need to read anything. We don't need to see anything. We want this. The pitch was really good. And we were at Netflix. We went to all those places. But the thing was YouTube had one card to play and that's sight unseen, start making them because they were trying to build

That scripted entity, which in essence, after season three of Cobra Kai, when it became this hit, the low expectations for that show did not hurt us. It's like, this is going to suck, but I'm going to watch it. And then all of a sudden, 100% on Rotten Tomatoes, critic scores, and it was the surprise. And then...

Then they kind of, it was the only one still standing when Google was mandating YouTube out of the scripted world as they were seeing it. They couldn't make sense out of it. Pandemic hits. We have no home. They don't want to cancel the show, but they're not going to do it. But we had 10 episodes in our back pocket. Yeah.

out of a show that was successful and then we went you know to uncle ted uh uncle ted who's where we wanted it to begin with shout out to uncle ted i know he's listening yeah he is listening oh boy they're 100 if not we'll send it to him oh no bully i get great i get great reviews yeah yeah yeah yeah so um you know and that was just about figuring out a way uh to you know

The world is shutting down, but we needed, someone needed to spend a lot of money to extricate and get it from YouTube or share it. And then it was relaunched. It was sort of like an out of town tryout. Yes. That's what it feels like. Or, or, you know, the grapefruit league and then you're at Dodger stadium or shall I say city field or maybe even Yankee stadium. I almost wore the Met hat today. You and I have so much to talk about. But, um, it was, it was, it's, they're,

Hopefully we'll see in the postseason. Could be. Did you see my online feud with Frank the Tank? I know. I heard of this and I need to check it out. You need to check it out. Yeah, yeah. Somebody said to me, who's Frank the Tank? I go, if you watch Howard Stern...

He's like stuttering John. Right. Wouldn't you say that's the perfect... Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sidekick. That guy. Not John Boy. That's another thing. I love those guys. Ed Barstool. Yep. And he was saying that the Dodgers have no likable people in the organization and that Dodger Stadium is... The manager's likable. Freddie Freeman. And you're likable. And I'm likable. So I went after him in a very, very funny way. And...

Yeah. We'll see you in the playoffs for sure. But let's say back to back to movie star Ralph Macchio, my favorite Macchio of all Macchios. Me too. Because I've known them all. I've known teen idol Ralph Macchio. I've known I've ate is enough Ralph Macchio. Wow. That's right. That's right. I remember sitting across from you. Yeah. ABC Century City. Yes. I remember. Yes. Going to the network read. It was going to be you or my mano a mano. And only one man came out on top. And it was.

Ralph Macchio. Yeah, that was, wow. I Was Nine was too many and that was the end of that show. You were like that moment where they add on like a Martian or a talking dog. Yeah, no, it was like a cousin whatever on Brady Bunch. Cousin Oliver. No, he was, yeah, no, he was kind of, it was an ABC talent search.

That's kind of where I came out in New York. I did what I guess what, you know, Disney Channel and Nickelodeon did for so long and, you know, finding their kids and then keeping them in the pen and like plugging and playing them in where they needed. So this was kind of the show that was on that, oh, we need that.

that type, that rebellious East Coast. Young Fonzie. Yeah, right. Young Fonzie or probably Young Chachi is what they were thinking at the time. Oh, Young Chachi. Yes, of course. And so... Of course they were. Yeah, I remember flying out here and being nervous at ABC Entertainment Center. I think your mom was with you. No, it was...

You know what? You probably remember better than I do. And my mom says hello. Give her my best, please. She never forgets when she knocked on the wrong door at the Outsiders and you answered it in a robe or a towel or whatever. And she'll never get that out of her mind. I was like, God, just a little too old, maybe. That's right.

Mrs. Macchio, the graduate. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Awesome. But yeah, that's ABC Entertainment Center, Century City. And that was one of those when you go back to the hotel room

I think it was like the Holiday Inn on like, you know, where the Dolby Theater is, which is probably the Lowe's now, I think. I don't know. And you're just waiting for the hotel phone to ring and it was one of those and you got it. Like, it was like, it's crazy. Those don't happen. No, they don't happen anymore. And what's interesting, that happened for me so often at the onset.

And then there were the dry years where it's just like just staring at the bat phone and not even Alfred was calling me. I mean, but that's my, that's just the way it is. It's, I always say that to people. I go, if you're lucky enough to be in it as long as we both have been for sure, then,

Part of the deal is surviving the inevitable fallow periods. Yeah, exactly. I mean, nature has them. Why wouldn't a human being? No, and it makes it all the richer now. I mean, just to, you know, just last two weeks ago, the premiere for the Karate Kid Legends in New York City and my wife and kids, I never, we never had a premiere for any of those movies. Right.

I just think the Will Smith, Jackie Chan, Jaden Smith, that had its premiere. But the movies that I did and The Outsiders, we never really had a premiere. Crossroads was the only, my cousin Vinny, I didn't have a premiere. I'm going down the list now. But Crossroads was the only proper premiere movie.

of a movie that I had. And then so two weeks ago, whenever it was, we, you know, to see my kids experience that, even the whole Cobra Kai thing, you know, watch parties at college and, you know, it's, it tastes sweeter the second time around, you know, and I know how fleeting it is, but to have that, you

you know, is really grateful, really grateful. And I have, you know, eight, 10, 12 year old kids running up to me like I'm Santa Claus. And they, you know, they, you know, and they know who Mr. Miyagi is and they read the outsiders in school and they go to Broadway to see the musical. And it's just, it's incredible, man. I was going to say who, um, you've got a, you've got a 13 year old coming towards you. Ah,

Is it going to be Johnny Cade or is it going to be... It's close. It's close. I mean, for the... It matters if they go into a fight stance. Then I know which... Then they give you the crane thing. The crane. Yeah, no, they... The crane thing. The...

The Outsiders, it's usually teenage girls. I'm sure you're the same. I mean, you see, if you walk by the theater in New York, you know, they're outside dressed in the costumes of the characters, and it's 40 years past, and they love these characters. Really quite unique to have that with a few franchises, if you will, or, you know. Yeah, it's...

And I've gotten, as I know you have, you've gone to the Outsiders Museum in Tulsa, which is so sick. It's great. I want all those images. Those images are...

Where did they get those photos? We had, yeah, there were two main photographers, I think. I'm blanking on their names, but- They were there the whole time. They were there the whole, I mean, we were shooting stuff. Did they, did you use, I used to get the contact sheets. Yeah, yeah, yeah, the slides. And I remember- The transparencies. So those things, they shot not only everything of the outsiders, but if Francis did an angle

He shot the angle. Yeah. So you could do a still book of every single angle of the outside. Jim Zink. Yeah, yeah, you got it. Jesus Christ. Good job. What did you have for breakfast, though? I can't remember anything. I know, same, same, same. The fucking unit photographer from the outsiders is Jim Zink. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Shout out to you, Jimmy, baby. Yeah, there you go. ♪

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What do they ask me most about it? I guess, I mean, they'll ask about the burn, like the, you know. Oh, wow. Yeah. They'll ask about like the makeup and that, then the fire and that stuff. I did say that's a youthful intrigue. Like how, how'd you do that? How is that done? Um, um,

Um, more so besides is Cruise cool or not? That comes up a lot. How's Tom? Yeah, how's Tom? What's he really like? You and Tom, the only people in theaters. I know, in movies right now. You and Tommy. Side by side. The outsiders are fucking undefeated. Yeah, yeah, that's right. That's right. I, um, um... Do you remember when Tom removed his tooth?

I do. I do. Yeah. It was like part of his character. Do you? Okay. So let me ask you this. Um, whenever I see Tom doing these amazing, um, just beyond insane, it's hard not to say insane, but it's, it's, I look back, I look back at when Francis made us for whatever reason,

to practice to be gymnasts. Do you remember this? Well, yeah, everyone was doing their backflip. I mean, I got away with all that stuff as the Johnny K, the introvert internal. I don't remember. Yeah, I don't. Just walking by himself. Yeah, there was never any pressure on you to do a backflip. Well, I wasn't in the rumble. I was in the hospital. That's what it was. But there was a lot of pressure on us to like learn backflips and do all this shit. And I don't know if you've ever

a standing backflip. It's hard. It's scary as shit. No. And of course, there was only one person. Off the diving board into the pool when I was young. That was like my version because it was always a soft landing. Well, Tom was the only one who did it. And if you watch the movie, the movie's playing and then the movie just stops.

And there's a shot of Tom doing a backflip for no reason. Right. And then the movie continues. That's right. So. But I realized that's where it started for him. Yeah. One hundred percent. That's where it started. For sure. And then he was quite driven from day one. I mean, that gentleman had a plan.

Right? He really did. So it's not just me. I'm not misremembering this. No, no, no. Very distinctively, it was happening there. And he has the backflip and he comes up grabbing the back of his head because I'm not so sure he stuck the landing, but the car, it was out of frame. By the way, maybe it's a Texas switch.

Could be. I don't think so. Oh, my God. But it does have a Texas switch look to it. It is very Texas switch. Yeah, it totally does. So, Texas switch is... Yeah, explain that. My favorite Texas switch ever, and I watch this all the time, is I'm obsessed with 1970s television show openings. Uh-huh. Obsessed with them.

And my favorite one is... Hawaii Five-0? Well, that's the best one ever. Right, right. That is, that's amazing. Yeah. But there are also some that are ridiculous. And my favorite ridiculous one is SWAT. Yeah. And it's shot of a van, just a van, going down a street. Just like, oh my God, I can't believe it. And anyway, and each one of the SWAT guys comes out and does some gnarly stunt. Right. And one guy...

breaks, dives through a window, falls out of frame where he's obscured by boxes. And then what's clearly the actor who did not do the stunt pops up. Right. So Texas Switch is one of the stuntmen. It's the best. So maybe Tom, let's start a rumor right now. That it was a Texas Switch? That Tom Cruise actually doesn't do his stunts.

And we have the evidence. And the evidence is the outsiders. Right. We'll go back. It's kind of tough with the current footage that is playing on your feed right now of him not wearing a parachute, but just... The burning parachute, just when you think you've said it, it makes my stomach hurt. Yeah, yeah.

It's incredible. Anyway, all right, enough about that. I'm joking. So you're still a Springsteen fan, I'm assuming. Always been. Always been, and yes, you know...

From day one, yeah. Did you, I mean, because I know Swayze, myself, we were big Springsteen guys. Were you a Springsteen guy at that point or just getting into it? Yeah, yeah. No, no, for sure. Because I... Because it was The Clash, Adamant, and Bruce. And Cheap Trick I had going on the onset. I had my big boom box. Clash, Adamant. Oh, and Matt had... Matt was into The Clash. And Bowie. Yeah, Bowie. And...

T-Rex. Yeah. But Springsteen's, you know, always, I've never met him. I know you're friends. Wait. Never met him. Come on. Never met him. And my family's pissed at me about that, but I'm like, I'm not that guy. There's also, it just never happened. I mean, I did, I've seen him a thousand times. No, a thousand. And not quite, but I've seen him a bunch. Saw, I went to the Broadway thing twice. I actually sent a note backstage saying,

for my wife saying, you're sending him a note backstage, you know, because he's underscored my entire life. And so I did. And in my shitty handwriting, I said, but I can't, can I type it? No, you can't type. All right. Because I...

I stopped writing when the phones came out. All you can do is write your autograph. Yeah, that's it. I could sign. That's it. And that, that pays off way better than any other kind of writing. But, um, so I, um, I did send a note backstage, um, just to send, just, just to, uh,

A respect note, not like, hey, can we meet? It was that. Right. You didn't say, I'm in aisle double C. I'm in aisle C2 off the aisle. It'll be me. I'll be waving. No, it was really a totally respectful note. I think that night Patty wasn't in the show. You've seen the Broadway show, right? Yes.

So she wasn't because, and he commented that there was something, something going on with the, one of the kids. He said, I think his comment was, you know, I thought at this point I'd be, I just participate in an advisory position, but for some reason now we got to go in full Monty. So.

An advisor. We're dealing with this crisis, so Patty isn't here. So maybe there was something going on. How great is this? I never heard back, but I don't, I'm just a, you know, my God, what a career. Just listen to the song, The Wrestler, from the movie The Wrestler. It's just gorgeous, the one trick pony, just a gorgeous piece of. You know the story for that. He got boned. Yeah, I know all about it. He got boned on the Oscar. Yeah, that's ridiculous. Because what is it, the rule? It has to play within the movie.

The narrative. Yeah. It can't just be credits. Right. But I guess Philadelphia played in the narrative. It's some weird thing. Says someone who's been boned by the Oscars on, well, it wasn't the Oscars, but like I did a movie called Behind the Candelabra. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I, my character. Jerry Weintraub. Jerry Weintraub.

There's another connection. Michael Weintraub, I know you're listening. Yeah, he is. He's with Ted right now listening. He's with Ted. He's in Sarandos. But there was like a screen time limit. Like... Mm-hmm.

And I got, everybody else won every award and I won absolutely nothing. Well, but I just remember your face. Yes. It was awesome. It was fun. Yeah. What a great, what a great fun role that must have been. So, so fun. You don't have to carry it, but you could add, come in and kill, add the color. It's awesome. That's what I'm, that's what I'm looking for now. You know, after all this, this awesome franchise stuff and God, I mean, the Karate Kid, just that.

From 1984 to now, how many movies, television, and that it's relevant for four, almost four generations now. They could all, you could have your grandparents and your nieces and nephews all watching a piece of that same thing. And I kind of was the Luke Skywalker of that franchise. But to that type of role. You're the less angry at George Lucas. Yeah.

A little bit less. Mark Hamill. Yeah, that's what I am right now. Well, give me a week. Right. No. I saw Lucas. I'm segueing like crazy because with Francis Coppola's AFI event. Oh, tell me about... Oh, well, we got to take off. Go in order. No, no, no, no. I got in order. This is all bullshit. Tell me about...

Tell me, so I had Francis on the show. That's great. And it was, I cannot tell you what it was like for me. I did. I listened to some of that. Yes, yes, yes. I saw that. I almost could get super emotional talking about it now. Yeah, I'm with you. I mean, I don't even know what it's, I don't know what to compare it to. It's going back to high school reunion, to the principal you, or the teacher you thought didn't like you or did like you or whatever. It's,

so full of like baggage in a way. Right, but for you, because of the film's initial cut and then the complete novel cut, that narrative is just an awesome thing

you know, fully realized. Right. You know, with a third act now. It was great. I mean, having that cut, the complete novel cut out, and having Francis say, because it was a mistake. It was a mistake that he made. Was it the studio? Was it running time? He said when he would get angry, I think his... Correct me if I'm wrong, if you know this, but he would say when he got...

you know, when he butted heads with the studio, he usually would just cut stuff and make it shorter. That's amazing. Yeah, I think he's on record for saying that. And when he looks back at that, you know, that's something he wishes he could have course corrected and now you kind of can. Yeah.

maybe not for the theatrical release, but, and so I think that was, you know, he had to, he had a longer movie. You either follow the Curtis brothers or you go up to the church in Wintersville. And, you know, fortunately for me at that point, I was in all that stuff, but, but on the, on the flip side, you lost the brothers and you lost that beautiful scene that you, you, you have. And,

And so it's great. Francis and the whole that's on, do a plug for that, TNT June 18th, that'll air. The AFI Lifetime Achievement. For Francis. Yeah. And George was there and- Lucas was there, Spielberg. It was nuts. Lucas Spielberg, Ron Howard, Pacino, De Niro, Hoffman. Me. Me.

No, sorry. You know, and it ain't bragging. Yeah, that's right. That's right. And and see Thomas Howell, my my partner in the in our little outsider's piece, Diane Lane was there. Morgan Freeman, Spike Lee, dude.

I mean, for someone who lives outside of it, which is me, I've never kind of, I've always kept one foot in and one foot out, right? I'm back in New York for the most part. So to be at even at Ted's pre, the night before gathering at his house and just be in the backyard, you know, they had the lemon trees brought in. It was like Sorrento and the opera was playing and pizza and veal parmesan was being served and everything.

and Francis came in and it was just to be part of that, you know, and we started our careers there. It was really, uh, it was really kind of warm and wonderful. And then it was also, look at this, look at this, look at this patio, look at these people. Yeah. It was kind of the Oscars without all the stuff. Yeah. The guts good about it. And it was, um,

Harrison Ford and everyone had another Francis story and me and Tommy had some fun stuff that we did and it went over really well so I look forward for you to seeing it but the first thing Ted said when he said I just got to Rob feels so bad he can't be here that was like the opening line of like hey Ted how are you? Yeah yeah so he threw you cred right away because I guess you were in Ireland shooting the American TV show which is how it's done. That's right that is

you know, if you're not going to take a hundred Americans to Ireland to shoot an American TV show, what are you doing? Like, uh, that's the way the business goes.

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He, sometimes he talks like a cowboy. Right. He was a little less, he dialed back, I think he was about, he was kind of half cowboy. Because, I mean, bro. No, he goes full cowboy. I feel like I'm in Tropic Thunder now. And I'm going, okay, I get it.

I go, yes, Sam Neill's getting older. Yep. Tommy's found a lane. Yep. Exactly. He's got his music. And it's good. And it's, oh, he's great. Yeah, yeah. But then I did notice when he came back to the outsider stuff, he'd talk like Tommy Halligan. Mm-hmm.

Yeah, it's like when Madonna went British. Yeah, you've never had a vocal affectation. No. Well, if you watch old footage of me when I first came up. I think you need to have a vocal affectation. I'm going to work on that now. Well, now I'm in the transition. I'm Australian. Yeah, that's right. That's what I'll do. Because they're better actors, you know. Yes, of course. They take all the jobs. They do.

They do. You're just better. You know you're just better if you're Australian. Better actor. I think, good time. Shrimp on the barbie. You're British, you're better. British, you're better. America sucks. And then Blue Eyes helps too. You have that. So I don't, I don't. There was one point where I literally was when I was out of work for a chunk. Yeah. And, you know, you're flipping through what's on TV or people I've worked with.

And I was convinced everyone had blue eyes. See, I think it's the opposite now. Yeah, it might be. It might be. Yeah.

Yeah, yeah. It might be. But the pendulum always swings way too far either way. Do you have any of your Tiger Beat – OK, there was 16 Magazine. Yeah, 16 was – We were both pinup boys. Yep. 16. Tiger Beat. Tiger Beat. They were the Newsweek in time. Yes, yes. Above the Teen Bops and those others. That were, yes, lesser citizens. Right, right. Yeah.

I think that's all gone. I mean, yeah, it's all gone, obviously. Because it's all just digital. Yeah. I wonder what it would have been like making The Outsiders in the TikTok world. I mean, we'd be just in between scenes doing sketches. Right. I mean, we kill, you know, when you do these, I'm just coming off the press tour, you know,

And the stuff that they submit, you know, you just have to... Because it's... I'm like, on Cobra Kai, it was easier because I say, give this to the kids. They're awesome at it. Right. So me and Billy Zapko, we would always just say, give it to the... And the kids, they'd eat it up. They'd do the sketches, the skits, and all the games. But it's...

And then when you, you know, from the international aspect, when you go to, like, I went to Mexico City and London or whatever, they all, each outlet then comes up with, oh, what we'd love them to do is this. Yeah.

You know, I understand because you got to cut through it all. Yeah. Right. So an interview like this, I mean, the nice thing about this is a conversation. It's, you know, and you feel like you're in the living room with two people you know and like, and that's wonderful. But in those, in your three minutes or two minutes on your scrolling through, you have to...

do something ridiculous. My buddy Chris Pratt tells a great story about, I should probably save it till I have him back on, but fuck it, about going to China for the first time and not being aware of how many people were watching the Chinese TV show. And he just decided all he was going to learn was how to say in Mandarin, China is great. So the entire thing, all he did was scream at the top of his lungs.

Right. And he said when he came out of his hotel the next day, it was like the Beatles. Like people were – he said he saw a guy start crying and faint and they just took – they just carried him out like an ant, like ants would carry a piece of meat. The international press tours are bananas. Yeah, they are. We would just – Mexico City was – it's such a big market for –

The Karate Kid, it always has been. Latin America and certain countries. And it was, I felt like a matador at a bullfight. It was like cheering La Russo, La Russo from the buildings. And it was fun. Do you- Up until I got the Montezuma's Revenge. And that was no fun. It wouldn't be- But there wouldn't be Mexico coming away with that. Do you ever have like anybody get all hammered and be like, Hey, Karate Kid.

I'll show you some karate. Yeah, I'll kick your ass. No, I think they, I mean, they knew I had one magic kick that I kept going for 41 years. One magic kick. It was a piece of, it was a cinematic magic trick. Have you gone to UFC or any of that and walked in? No, no. Oh, you have to do that. I mean, you would imagine, it's probably a, the

The closest we got is they brought us to, because Netflix carried it. It was a big, big deal. Tyson and the recent fight. Did you go to that? Yeah, I was there. No way. And they put us on the thing, me and Zap, it was side by side, right up front with Bella and all the Netflix people. I did see you. And then it's so funny because with the data, they just said, you know,

52 million people just saw that. It's just crazy. They had it all. I was with the Netflix team watching it as well on somewhere else. And they had it all happening. And it was breaking the infrastructure. Yes, it was because it was spinning. And they couldn't. And I said, you better fix this before the football playoffs that you bought this year. Yeah. And they seem to have done that. They fixed it. Because that's, it's at the 10. He's at the 5. Yeah.

By the way, I've had so many guests in the show. Look at this Ralph Macchio document. Oh, it's a Bible? Oh, wait, wait. Okay. Oh, Walk of Fame. Okay. Yeah. Where's yours? Where's mine? Mine is not too far from Musso and Frank's, which is always like,

Gee, I wonder who... I'm down by Las Palmas. Yes. Which was a nice thing because I spoke of, I remember being at the light heading to the Outsiders audition. At Las Palmas. And crossing, ready to cross Hollywood Boulevard. And I remember distinctively looking at, and because I was pretty new to the town. I mean, I'd done eight is enough, but I was never down in Hollywood. We did that at

what is Sony now is MGM. Not only were you not of the town, but you were the first person I ever knew who pronounced it Suplevita. Suplevita.

Yeah, for a while. Mm-hmm. Supple Vita. Supple Vita. Supple Vita. That's it. Once I got there. You got it. Put the right emphasis on the wrong syllable. Syllable. But I, and I remember looking at all those stars on the thing and heading to the Coppola audition. And so I use that as part of my speeches. That's great. And so that was a nice segue. It was great. The family was there. My kids, you know, the story I've told way too many times, I'll do the

quick version of it is when my son found a bin full of teen magazines that my mom had saved and he came in and went to his sister and says, Jewel, dad was huge and we missed it.

And I've told this story a ton. It's the first time you're hearing it, but I ended my Hollywood star speech saying, after all this and this experience with Cobra Kai and the new movie coming out, you know, I guess dad was...

okay and we didn't totally miss it that's so sweet right that's really sweet book and storytelling that's really good now that's really good um so wait you mentioned muso and franks yeah is that known as the prime real estate no i don't think so it was the big i mean i guess you want to be like in front of the dolby theater you know you want to be like right in in tourist central you could be right in front you'd be at the front door of muso and franks like someone i know is

Is that where you are? Front door, baby. The reason I'm asking is... So it was taken. That was the problem. I'm just asking if it was known...

like the golden quadrant of Holmby Hills. Yeah, I think it's a good, I think that's good real estate. I got, they put mine respectfully and it's really kind of wonderful right next to Pat Morita's. No, that's so great. So it's pretty good one-stop shopping for those Karate Kid fans out there. You don't have to have the map and you get Miyagi and Daniel-san in one place.

Oh, that's great. So that's kind of cool. Am I misremembering or was Pat Morita, he was in Happy Days. He was. He was Arnold on Happy Days. Yeah. And that's when- Did you ever go and watch Happy Days film? No. You didn't? No. I don't live here, dude. I mean, I was just, you know, I was here to work. I remember you being here. And I went back to watch the Mets and the Islanders. But no, you would be at Patton Place-

God, that's right. It's still there. Is it still there? It's still there. So that's Sherman Oaks. That's crazy. Yeah, that was... A patent place is an apartment building where every struggling... Dick Van Patten owned it. Dick Van Patten owned it. Eight is enough. He's a real estate tycoon. I didn't live there. I had some friends. Jeff, your manager. Jeff Ballard. Yep.

Rest in peace, sad story. But he was a great guy, friend to all of us. And so I lived in Santa Monica. I had a, on 12th between Montana, Wilshire and Montana, a condo that someone was, it was great. And then they separated, the people who owned it, and she was moving in there. And then I was, I had to find a place. So I wound up in Marina del Rey, California.

Like 1,452. As they say in the Californians, Marina de la Re. Yeah, right. The Californians. What are you doing here? Exactly. And that was Tahiti Way or something like that. Tahiti Way, yes. Literally watching the boats come in. And that was for the end. That's where my son lives. My son lives off Tahiti Way right now. That's killer. That's killer. But it was, and that was right sort of the end of...

Of the last part. Actually, I lived there when I took acting lessons, when the Outsiders auditioned. Because I started taking acting lessons after my first Outsiders audition. You wanted to unlearn everything that you learned on 8 is Enough. I just got jobs by hitting the mark and looking pretty good and everything.

and not sucking. And by the way, and after all the acting lessons, you realize that's the most important thing. That's right. Exactly. Exactly. Hit the line. Hit the marks. Yep. Say the lines. Tell the truth. Yep. It was Tom Hanks. Tom Hanks said a thing. Be on time. Know the text. Wait, wait. You almost did a Tom Hanks. Oh, I did? You were very close to doing it. Well, because I've heard him say it. Know the lines. Be on time. Be on time. Know the text.

And have an idea. And have an idea. Yeah. There he is. He's the karate. He's the guy. We love it. He's the guy. Here he is. He's right here. He's right here. He's got it. And I love it. That just turned into somebody else in the middle of it. It was a good start. It was good for a minute. And then it devolved into something not so good. What is your summer like? What are you going to do? Um.

I'm going to try to enjoy some family time and those things I've been punting for seven years as I've been in Atlanta shooting the series and in the movie.

So some of that stuff on my desk I'm looking forward to and a lot of it I'm not. You know, it's just a part of the chapter of life where you have to. Speaking of chapters, when are you writing the book? The second book? Yes. I don't know. I don't know. I think that's going to be a little bit down the line. I think the one that I when I was on last time, Waxing On did very well. We cracked that New York Times bestseller list.

So that was cool. It was a great experience. I loved it. I did it myself, you know, with... And that feels really good, you know, when you just write it and you set up those chapters. I had the, you know, the template of what I wanted to do, where I wanted to go, the promise of each story within, and then I delivered that. And for good or bad, that was what I wanted to do, and that feels really good about it. I don't know...

You know, my guess is unless I could find the right irreverent, sarcastic, self-deprecating humor angle of that part of me that a lot of people don't know, if I could find the right book to write in that tone, then I'll jump forward. Otherwise, just doing another, well, here I am now, and it's not as much interest. Maybe later in life I might have the full-on...

the complete journey version. Do the version of you at my roast. Yeah. You got the edge in you. I know you do. That was, that was, that was fun. That was a good, um, that was a, something I probably wouldn't do again, but it totally made, and I never say never. So right now, you know, I'm doing it again because I just said that, but that was a, that was a, a,

perfect scenario, as challenging as it was, because when your slot gets moved down and you're hearing jokes that are similar that are either scoring or not scoring and you don't have that experience to like duck and move and call an audible. And, and, um, as I was when we first met, very prepared, very on time. And I have an idea. Uh, but,

but to shift and move in that comedic way where they're starting to hand you, okay, this didn't fly. So we're going to pull that. That had me on, on, on edge. But when I, I got there, it was a good, it was a good segment. And the main thing is I stuck the landing on that side because I saw, because it was a story and I, I,

it spoke to you and I. Yeah. Like, what don't I have that he has? And yet, it was fun. It was fun. And then right after that, Cobra Kai explodes on Netflix and now I'm in the movies. By the way, I... Crazy. I think... It was that. A lot, I mean, there's a lot of that, those...

Those roasts at that time were fucking ginormous. Yeah. I ran into Peyton the other day and he still remembers some of the jokes about himself that were just vicious. Mine was, my Peyton joke was- What was your Peyton joke? Peyton wrote a children's book. He didn't know it was a children's book, but-

everything turned out okay. I don't remember the last of it, but it was like he didn't set out to write a children's book, but when he got done, it was a children's book. That was a pretty good joke. They're all, everybody murdered. Yeah. And that was the, that was sort of Nikki Glaser's

coming out party. That's right. I was like, who's she? What's, when they're giving me the list of who's on it. I was like, okay. And Pete Davidson, that was Pete Davidson. He came out of that, his, his trailer, like Spicoli. Oh, right. I mean, he was right across from me. It's like, just smoke. He was smoking on the dance, on the air.

I'll never forget he said to me, he goes, it was so high. And he was like right now, it was Jewel was next to me and he was Amy Kavlini. He goes, I'm texting with my family in Staten Island and it's, I told them you're here and it's like, they're acting like I'm sitting next to Bruce Springsteen. That's amazing. I said, well, I just have that effect.

Pete. So cool. So much fun. Well, listen, I'm trying to think, is there anything else that I need to know about the great Ralph Macchio? Because, I mean, this is your podium, baby. Yeah, no, it's good. Listen, the movie is, the fans are loving it and I'm, you know, we're pushing in a very crowded summer. So, I say get out to see Karate Kid Legends. You get to see little Jackie Chan and a great kid. This kid, Ben Wong, is spectacular. What'd you find, Taylor?

they searched like they did an open call 10,000 submissions and you know he's just he's wonderful likable uh he knows the martial he he could do martial arts speak mandarin he checked a few boxes but he delivered and uh the one thing i know about the karate kid franchise you gotta have a kid you want to root for and you care about and so if you don't have that

All the bells and whistles go away. And so he's really quite wonderful. And the kids like him, kids and parents. It's a film that celebrates fish out of water, mentorship, dealing with bullies, coming out ahead, being the best version of yourself that parents get to see with their kids. How many films do that that aren't just animated stories? So I'm proud of that. I'm proud of that connective tissue of what

is the Karate Kid franchise. And, you know, for me, next, I'm just going to

you know, have a little bit of a summer and develop some of the things that are, I got going, you know, how hard it is, especially now. But, but I don't have to sweat it now either. So it's, it's, I'm very grateful. We're privileged for what we have and how long we've been able to, to keep this ball up in the air, man. I know. It's always great to see you. It's great to see you. It's such a kindred spirit, the Outsiders guys. I mean, it was just,

we were in this little movie camp. It's our, I always say it's like your fraternity brothers. Yeah, 100%. Always, you always have that, always, no matter what goes on in life, it's like,

We know. We know that. I know that you know, that he knows, that we know. And as competitive as it all was, especially now at this age, all I do is root for all of us. Oh, right. You know, it's the graduating class that's still, you know, you could have a couple of us in movie theaters and on podcasts and TV shows and game shows. It's, you know, you keep the legacy alive. It's good. It's good. Congrats to you and all of us, man. Yeah. Thanks, brother. All right, buddy.

One of the nicest men in show business that you'll ever meet right there. And seeing him thrive all these years later just warms my heart because there is not a nicer man in the business. And I am so happy that he got his star on the Walk of Fame. So deserved and so happy that it wasn't near Seplavida Boulevard. I will see y'all next week right here on Literally.

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