cover of episode 188. “She makes 2x but wants me to treat her” Nate and Serena return

188. “She makes 2x but wants me to treat her” Nate and Serena return

2024/12/24
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通过分享财务挑战和关系经验,Nate 和他的伴侣 Serena 为其他夫妻提供了宝贵的财务管理和关系维护见解。
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Serena: Serena和Nate在金钱观上存在差异,Serena希望能够更好地规划财务,并对未来的生活有更清晰的规划。她坦诚自己原生家庭的经济条件不好,这影响了她对金钱的看法和处理方式。她希望Nate能够更积极地参与到财务规划中,并制定一个明确的还款计划。她同时也表达了对被照顾和被重视的需求,希望Nate能够在金钱方面给予她更多的关注和体贴。 Serena也承认自己存在一些矛盾的想法,一方面她希望能够独立自主,另一方面她又希望能够得到Nate的照顾和关爱。她希望能够找到一种平衡点,既能保持独立,又能感受到Nate的爱和关心。 在与Nate的沟通中,Serena也逐渐意识到自己之前的假设是错误的,她低估了Nate的感受,也忽略了自身情感需求在金钱问题中的重要性。通过与Nate的沟通和反思,Serena逐渐认识到,金钱不仅仅是数字,更是一种情感的表达。 Nate: Nate的财务状况比较紧张,他目前收入较低,负债较高,这让他在金钱方面感到压力。他坦诚自己需要时间从工作状态切换到私人生活状态,因此无法立即给出确切的还款计划。他希望能够与Serena更好地沟通,并制定一个双方都能接受的财务计划。 Nate也表达了对被理解和被尊重的需求,他不想让金钱问题成为他和Serena之间争吵的根源。他希望能够找到一种平衡点,既能满足自己的需求,又能维护好与Serena之间的关系。 在与Serena的沟通中,Nate也逐渐意识到自己之前表达方式存在问题,他希望能够更有效地与Serena沟通,并表达自己的感受和需求。 Ramit Sethi: Ramit Sethi作为节目的主持人,他引导Nate和Serena进行沟通,并帮助他们分析问题,找到解决方法。他指出双方在沟通中过于理性,忽略了情感因素,建议双方换位思考,尝试不同的沟通方式。 Ramit Sethi也指出金钱问题背后隐藏着文化、性别和沟通等因素,鼓励双方探究自身金钱观的根源,并找到一种更健康、更有效的沟通方式。他强调,金钱问题不仅仅是财务问题,更是一种情感问题,需要双方共同努力才能解决。 Ramit Sethi还为Nate和Serena提供了具体的财务建议,例如制定债务偿还计划、制定合理的支出计划等。他鼓励他们积极面对财务挑战,并相信他们能够通过共同努力,改善财务状况,并建立更和谐的伴侣关系。

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Key Insights

Why does Serena feel stressed about Nate owing her money for the trip?

Serena feels stressed because she wants a clear plan for when and how the debt will be paid back, as it leaves her with a sense of uncertainty and loose ends.

Why does Nate feel that he can't give Serena a straight answer on when he can pay her back?

Nate feels he can't give a straight answer because his financial situation is unstable, and he needs to see his paycheck and credit card bill to know if he can afford to pay her back.

Why is Serena's response to Nate's financial stress about going out to dinner not ideal?

Serena's response is not ideal because it puts pressure on Nate to either split the check or decline, causing him to feel like he's groveling to her for financial help, which is stressful and affects their relationship.

Why does it feel like a cruel joke to Serena that she can now afford nice things but Nate can't?

It feels like a cruel joke because Serena has recently moved into a higher-paying job and can afford to go out and do nice things, but Nate, despite his future earning potential, is still in a financially challenging situation, which creates a disparity in their ability to enjoy joint activities.

Why does Nate feel he has to grovel to Serena about money?

Nate feels he has to grovel because he often has to ask Serena for financial help when he can't afford something, which is emotionally and psychologically difficult for him.

Why is Nate's high future income not a silver bullet for their financial issues?

Nate's high future income is not a silver bullet because just making more money doesn't solve underlying communication and emotional issues around finances. They need to address how they talk about and feel about money.

Why does Serena find it hard to consider paying a more proportional share of rent?

Serena finds it hard because it's not a natural inclination for her to think about Nate's financial burden, and she has grown up with a transactional view of money, which makes it difficult to shift to a more emotional and supportive perspective.

Why is the way Nate and Serena currently split their rent problematic?

The current rent split is problematic because Nate's fixed costs represent 97% of his take-home pay, leaving him with no financial wiggle room and causing stress, especially when it comes to covering other expenses.

Why does Serena wish Nate would treat her more often, even though she makes more money?

Serena wishes Nate would treat her more often because it's an emotional gesture that makes her feel taken care of, which is important in their relationship, regardless of who has the higher income.

Why is it important for Nate and Serena to communicate about money in a less judgmental and more empathetic way?

It's important for Nate and Serena to communicate about money in a less judgmental and more empathetic way because their current approach causes stress and arguments, and they need to build a strong foundation for their financial and emotional relationship.

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What happens to the couples that I’ve spoken to months, even years ago? It’s time to find out in our first follow-up episode, featuring Nate and Serena from episodes 73 & 74 of the podcast.  

We're looking back on their original conversation, and then both Nate and Serena will be back next week to share where they’re at today, and their reactions from watching their original episode. They were incredibly honest, sometimes brutally honest, and also very sweet.

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