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The Plan to Get America Building Big Ships Again

2025/2/20
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Mark Kelly: 我认为美国海运业的现状非常糟糕。1986年我从美国商船学院毕业时,我们大约有400艘美国国旗的远洋船舶,而现在这个数字已经下降到80艘。相比之下,我们的竞争对手中国拥有5500艘船舶。如果中国切断对美国的货物运输,我们的经济将几乎瘫痪。这是一个国家安全问题,我们必须解决它。中国船舶的配置也满足了中国人民解放军海军的需要,这使得我们在冲突中处于劣势。我们需要重建我们的海运能力,这不仅关乎和平时期的货物运输,也关乎战时的军事调动。我们必须支持像美国商船学院这样的学校,并为船厂提供培训项目,培养合格的劳动力,从而建立一个完整的生态系统。 Todd Young: 中国在许多经济领域都通过补贴等方式获得了优势,而美国则缺乏类似的政策,导致我们在造船业等领域竞争力下降。这不仅是一个经济安全问题,也是一个国家安全问题。我们不能依赖主要对手中国来运输物资和人员。我们需要政府干预,因为中国并不以纯粹的商业眼光看待商业交易,他们总是会附加地缘政治或军事考量。通过《美国船舶法案》,我们可以通过税收优惠、联邦船舶融资等方式激励私营企业参与造船业,同时建立一个中立的仲裁机制来避免裙带关系和浪费。我们还需要通过外交和贸易政策来打开国际市场,以确保市场竞争,提高效率。我们必须认识到,中国可能会对我们的行动做出回应,但这不应阻止我们增强自身经济韧性,维护国家安全。

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The US possesses only 80 US-flagged vessels involved in global trade, compared to China's 5,500. This stark contrast poses a national security risk, as it leaves the US vulnerable to economic coercion by China. The conversation explores the decline of the US maritime industry and the urgency to rebuild this capacity.
  • Only 80 US-flagged vessels in international commerce compared to China's 5,500.
  • The decline from 400 vessels in 1986 to 80 today.
  • China's ability to disrupt the US economy by restricting cargo shipments.
  • The need to train more mariners, build more ships, and create more yard space for military shipbuilding and repair.

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The US is a dominant force in a number of important industries, but it's been lagging behind in one crucial area: shipbuilding. Today, there are about 80 US-flagged ships involved in global trade, compared to more than 5,500 China-flagged vessels. The worry is that the US has been falling behind in this important component of international commerce, and that the country's entire economy could be at risk of being choked off. The SHIPS for America Act is a rare bipartisan proposal that aims to address these concerns by getting America to build commercial vessels again. But how exactly do you go about reviving an industry that's been all but moribund for decades? We speak to Senator Mark Kelly, a Democrat from Arizona, and Senator Todd Young, a Republican from Indiana, co-sponsors of the bill, about their plan.Read More:US Lawmakers Seek to Bolster Shipbuilding at Home)The Shipping Industry Is Getting a Slew of New Vessels—Right as Demand Cools)Odd Lots is coming to Washington, DC! Get your tickets here.)

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