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Why Government Hiring Is So Inefficient

2025/1/13
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Joe Weisenthal 和 Tracy Alloway:政府低效问题普遍存在,但识别问题容易,解决问题难。大型组织普遍存在效率低下,政府部门尤甚。高通胀和政府能力不足导致公众对政府效率不满,公众希望政府减少浪费,提高效率。政府支出存在两个问题:一是大型项目的必要性,二是现有项目的效率。 Jennifer Pahlka:政府支出效率低下,而非单纯的资金浪费。政府高额支出并未带来相应成效,反而阻碍了必要的改革。政府继续进行大型项目,而非采用更有效率的方法。政府项目周期过长,导致项目完成时已不再需要。政府拥有巨额预算,却缺乏有效支出管理。五角大楼审计失败的原因是其内部系统过于复杂,拥有数千个不同的后端系统,导致效率低下。国会提出的额外报告要求导致政府部门开发定制软件,而非使用现成软件。解决政府软件问题,关键在于减少不必要的需求,而不是开发更好的软件。政府部门缺乏权力来减少不必要的需求。政府部门内部系统复杂,导致审计困难。 政府科技项目往往从零开始,而非利用现有资源。政府部门习惯于从零开始构建系统,而非利用现有工具。在儿童福利机构的工作经历让她意识到政府低效的严重性。政府应该将最好的资源用于解决最大的问题。加州失业救济系统现代化项目耗时11年,说明政府项目周期过长。政府项目需求过多,且随着时间的推移不断增加。政府系统长期积累的政策、流程和法规导致系统复杂化。政府部门只进行修补,而非彻底改革系统。政府缺乏对系统进行彻底改革的资金和意愿。政府需要同时进行法规简化和系统现代化。政府官员与供应商合作不够紧密。供应商更倾向于维护系统复杂性,而非简化系统。失业救济系统本质上并不复杂,但由于长期积累的问题变得复杂。 Jennifer Pahlka:政府招聘的最大问题不是薪资,而是缺乏有效的技能评估。政府招聘主要依赖候选人的自我评估和简历筛选。政府招聘流程中,招聘经理被排除在外,人力资源部门控制整个流程。政府招聘流程中,优先考虑退伍军人,但可能忽略了其他优秀人才。政府招聘流程中,招聘经理往往会拒绝人力资源部门提供的候选人名单。一个在“黑客入侵五角大楼”竞赛中获胜的年轻程序员,由于简历与职位描述不符而被拒绝。五角大楼招聘人员多次尝试招聘这位程序员,但都失败了。这位程序员因为在简历中列出了具体的编程语言而被拒绝。人力资源部门使用模糊的职位描述,导致无法有效评估候选人的技能。人力资源部门不听取招聘经理的意见,因为他们担心引入偏见。人力资源部门认为自己拥有确保招聘过程公平的专业知识。程序员招聘中,程序员不被允许评估候选人,因为担心引入偏见。1978年《公务员改革法案》的初衷是基于能力和公平性进行招聘,但实际操作中却变得僵化。人力资源部门控制招聘流程并非源于法律规定,而是源于操作手册。实际上,招聘经理不允许查看所有申请人的名单。解决政府招聘问题需要从根本上改革,而非简单的修补。1978年《公务员改革法案》的基础是良好的,需要对其实施进行彻底改革。“F级计划”可能损害政府雇员的权利。政府应该改进解雇表现不佳员工的流程。 Joe Weisenthal 和 Tracy Alloway:仅仅识别问题不足以解决政府低效问题。人工智能可以帮助简化政府流程。大型组织普遍存在效率低下问题。

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Why is government hiring so inefficient according to Jennifer Pahlka?

Government hiring is inefficient because it relies heavily on self-assessments and resume screens, with 90% of hires using only these methods. Hiring managers are excluded from the initial screening process, which is controlled by HR. Candidates who know how to game the system—such as by copying and pasting job description keywords into their resumes—are prioritized, often leading to unqualified candidates being shortlisted.

What is the 'cascade of rigidity' in government hiring?

The 'cascade of rigidity' refers to the process where well-intentioned laws and policies, such as the Civil Service Reform Act of 1978, become overly rigid as they are operationalized. This rigidity leads to hiring practices that deviate from the original goal of merit-based hiring, resulting in inefficiencies and the inability to assess candidates' actual skills.

What is the SMEQA initiative and how does it address hiring inefficiencies?

SMEQA (Subject Matter Expert Qualifying Assessments) is an initiative by the United States Digital Service that allows hiring managers to assess candidates based on their actual skills, such as having programmers evaluated by other programmers. While it improves hiring quality, it remains a heavyweight process and has not scaled widely due to the cultural and procedural barriers within government HR systems.

Why is it so difficult to fire underperforming government employees?

Firing underperforming government employees is difficult because there are numerous pathways for employees to protest, such as filing complaints or lawsuits. Managers often avoid giving bad ratings or initiating termination processes because it consumes significant time and resources, leading to a culture where underperformers are transferred rather than fired.

What role does Congress play in government inefficiency?

Congress contributes to government inefficiency by adding layers of requirements and regulations over time, particularly in areas like software procurement. These requirements often lead to bespoke systems that are costly and slow to implement, rather than using off-the-shelf solutions. This accumulation of rules and processes complicates operations and reduces scalability.

What is the impact of veterans' preference on government hiring?

Veterans' preference in government hiring, while well-intentioned, can sometimes lead to inefficiencies. When combined with other screening criteria, such as self-assessments and keyword matching, it may result in qualified veterans being excluded from the hiring pool, as the initial screening process prioritizes candidates who know how to game the system rather than those with the best skills.

How does the government's approach to software procurement contribute to inefficiency?

The government's approach to software procurement is inefficient because it often involves creating bespoke systems to meet specific, often outdated, requirements. This process can take years, as seen in the case of California's unemployment insurance system, where requirements gathering alone took 11 years. The focus on accommodating every regulatory detail prevents the use of off-the-shelf solutions, leading to costly and slow implementations.

Chapters
The podcast opens by discussing government waste and inefficiency, particularly in Medicare. The hosts acknowledge that identifying problems is easy, but fixing them is the challenge. They introduce Jennifer Pahlka, an expert on government technology and efficiency, who will offer insights into these issues.
  • Difficulty in identifying and fixing inefficient government processes is endemic in large organizations.
  • Public frustration with slow implementation of government projects and a desire for better results.
  • Introduction of Jennifer Pahlka, expert in government technology and efficiency.

Shownotes Transcript

Regardless of your political ideology, it's easy to agree that government should work well; that it should be able to hire talented officials, and build things in a timely, cost-effective manner. Of course, what that means in practice is open for debate, and different people will have different priorities. But at the moment, there are reasons to believe the public sector isn't operating optimally. Things move incredibly slow in many cases. Software systems are often old and extremely costly, and don't do a good job serving the public's needs. It can be extremely difficult to bring on the best workers, even setting aside questions about public sector salaries. Jennifer Pahlka is the author of Recoding America, and was the founder of Code for America. She has also served as the US Deputy Chief CTO and has seen how much of government operates up close. We talk to her about what she's seen, how waste happens, how government operations get bogged down by inertia, and why simply identifying things that are going wrong isn't enough to change them. She talks to us about Elon Musk's Department of Government Efficiency, and why a major jolt may be necessary to get better results.

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