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旁白:马可·奥勒留作为皇帝,拥有至高无上的权力和显赫的地位,但他同时也是一个悲剧性的人物。他痛失九个孩子,他的统治时期饱受战争、灾难和瘟疫的困扰,他的身体也日渐衰弱。罗马人会同情他,为他感到难过。然而,在《沉思录》中,我们并没有看到马可·奥勒留放弃希望的迹象。事实上,每当他提到自己的不幸时,他都会很快纠正自己,认为这些不幸是幸运的,因为他从中幸存了下来。他曾经是一个幸运的人,但命运抛弃了他,但他仍然怀抱希望。真正的幸运是你为自己创造的,是良好的品格、良好的意图和良好的行为。他成为了坚韧和毅力的象征,一个尽管经历了生活最大的考验,却依然保持完整的人。他的善良、仁慈和对别人的爱,并没有因为所有指向他的痛苦而受到影响。这就是为什么,尽管人们可能会同情他,但他们也必须钦佩他。不是因为他的权力,也不是因为他的智慧,而是因为他拒绝被击垮,因为他证明了在难以想象的痛苦面前,真正的幸运并非取决于发生在我们身上的事,而是我们如何选择应对。 Ryan Holiday:写作的瓶颈不在于写作本身,而在于研究准备不足。只有充分的研究才能支撑流畅的写作。我阅读实体书,并用笔在书页上做笔记,多次与材料互动,从中提取信息用于写作。我将笔记整理成卡片,再将卡片组织成书。每本书都是这些卡片的集合。写作过程中,如果遇到困难,通常是因为材料不足,需要进行更多研究。例如,在写关于林肯的章节时,我发现自己需要阅读更多材料才能提炼出所需的信息。因此,我认为作家的障碍不是写作本身,而是研究。一旦完成了研究,写作就会变得容易得多。

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This chapter explores the life of Marcus Aurelius, highlighting the tragedies he faced and his unwavering resilience in the face of adversity. It emphasizes his perspective that true fortune lies not in circumstance but in our response to it.
  • Marcus Aurelius's life was marked by significant personal and political challenges.
  • Despite immense suffering, he maintained a stoic perspective.
  • True fortune is defined by one's response to adversity, not the adversity itself.

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Marcus Aurelius represented imperial power, to be sure, pomp and circumstance. He also must have seemed to the Romans to be a tragic figure. Here was a man who had buried nine of his children. Here was a philosopher whose reign had been marked by wars and disasters and plagues. Here was a wise man whose body was failing him.

They would have seen him, as the song about another statesman who lost their son goes. The Romans would have pitied him. They would have felt for him, as they should have.

And yet for all this, we don't see in meditations any sense that Marcus allowed himself to give up. In fact, whenever he speaks of his misfortune, he quickly corrects himself. No, it's fortunate that this happened, he writes. It's fortunate that this happened and I've remained unharmed by it. I was once a fortunate man, he writes elsewhere, and at some point fortune abandoned me.

Except he counters himself with hope. True good fortune is what you make for yourself, he writes. Good fortune is good character, good intentions, and good actions. And in this way, he would have become another kind of sight, the sight of perseverance and resilience, the man who remained unbroken despite life's best attempts.

A man whose decency and kindness and love for others was unaffected by all the pain directed upon him. And that is why, though they might have pitied him, people must have admired him. Not for his power, not for his wisdom, but for his refusal to be undone. For proving in the face of unimaginable suffering that true fortune is not what happens to us, but how we choose to meet it.

Hey, it's Ryan. Welcome to another episode of the Daily Stoke Podcast. This is a new intro for me. This is the first intro of its kind because I am holding our new puppy in my lap while I do it.

This is Oreo. I did not get to choose the name, but my wife and I were driving down our road a couple weeks ago, and we saw these two little puppies just running on the road, and we rescued them, and we found a new owner for one of them, and my kids insisted that we keep one, and Oreo here is in my lap. We don't know. We just did a DNA test. We haven't figured out what she is.

But hopefully she'll be my new running buddy. And at the very least, she's my recording buddy. And I just have a short intro for you guys today. It's a Thursday episode. As you know, we do Q&As. I've been bringing you some questions I answered when I was in London back in November. This was the first stop at the Troxie Theater. I think it went great.

Hopefully you can come see me at some other talks. I'm trying to do another tour at some point. And then I'm heading out. Actually, I'm heading to Riverside, California tomorrow. This might be after you're listening to speak at my alma mater where I went to college. Hopefully I'll be able to bring you at some point in the future as well. Enjoy.

I'm finding myself like immersed in reading a lot of books now and doing a lot of note cards, but not dedicating a lot of time into the writing part. Okay. And I really like the style that you read. I know that Robert Greene was a great mentor for you.

And I would like to know, like, how do you balance those? Sure. And how do you apply creativity to the process? Like, I know your perennial seller book is amazing. I have it here. But yeah, I want to know how you balance and how do you strive to be that part of writer, especially during like all this occupations we have, like jobs and everything else happening. Yeah. Okay. So I only read physical books and I'm proud and happy with that fact, uh,

Up until I have to travel and then I have to decide how many I can fit in my suitcase. Usually it's more a problem of how many I have to bring home from the trip. That's usually the trouble that I get into. But I just find if I'm going to spend the time reading, I want to spend it

and actually do it. And then I want to, not just a physical reminder of that, but the physical process of reading with a pen, writing in the margins, noting down what I want, and then going back through it. That's the process by which I'm

I am interacting with the material multiple times, and then I'm finding stuff often that I end up using with my other books. So usually like in my office, I try to read just one book at a time, and then I finish it and it goes in a stack near my desk. And then whenever I have a few spare minutes, actually I was talking to James Clear about this. It's really important that

you have something to do with your extra time. Like when you have a few extra minutes, when you have time, you don't know what to do with, you know what to do with it. And so when I finish something early, I'm waiting, somebody's late for something. The zoom was supposed to connect and it didn't. And now I have 30 extra minutes before my next thing. I pick up one of those books and I go back through it and I transfer those to note cards, which I then organize for my books. And

And every one of my books is a collection of those note cards. And I just more or less finished the manuscript for the Wisdom book.

which will be the fourth book in this series. And then on Thursday, before we flew here, I took out a box from the shelf to start the note cards for the next book that I'm working on. So I'm just always doing it. And it's not spending hundreds of hours uninterrupted, you know, hours on it. It's whenever I can squeeze it and I do it. As far as the relationship between researching and writing,

Whenever I'm having trouble writing, it's because I haven't done enough research. I find the writing stringing together of sentences to not be particularly difficult.

But what is in those sentences, what is the material that you are distilling down to say what you are trying to say, that is the rarer part of the process or that is the rarer raw material. And so whenever I'm having trouble writing or I'm even finding myself procrastinating for writing, it's usually because the material is not there. And at some level, I know that the material is not there and I have to go back.

to do more research. Like in the book I just finished, I was going to write this chapter about Lincoln and I've already read a lot about Lincoln. I thought I had a lot of cards and I had to read like another 2000 pages and distill all that down again. So it's usually, I don't think writer's block is the problem. The research is what's blocking the writing. And once I do the research, the writing tends to come real easily.

My name is Nick and I'm a scientist. I'm specialized in infectious diseases. Oh, you've been busy. Yeah, I know. And for the last four years, everyone has an opinion about my discipline, right? All big fans? Yeah, I know. How would you manage this?

these type of arguments or opinions? Do you choose a specific fight or do I just focus on the overall picture and try to fight the big fight? There's a Marcus Aurelius quote that maybe you'll relate to. We don't know what he's talking about specifically, some incident, something somebody said about him. But he says, being emperor is to earn a bad reputation by doing good deeds. And he was talking about how you...

inevitably don't please everyone, right? There's some group of people who are upset with you. And it is a reality of any profession. I think the tragedy of your profession is that if there's somebody that doesn't like my stuff and I ignore them,

There's no cost to society in that. We are struggling as a society to how do we balance freedom of speech, which is essential, and then people who are actively poisoning or polluting our information ecosystem, which has real world consequences for the human society. And I'm not quite sure we figured out the balance.

I'm not quite sure we figured out what you ignore, what you respond to. Sometimes we're responding too heavily to things and other times we're not responding enough and we're just allowing things to take over whole platforms and systems. My first book is kind of all about the wicked incentives of the system that leads this. I

I have another Marcus Aurelius quote that I think a lot about. You know, he lives through a plague, the Antonine Plague. It's a fascinating book about this called Pax Romana, all about the Antonine Plague. And it's a pandemic that doesn't last for a couple of years, lasts for like a decade and a half. Millions of Romans die and they have essentially no ability to respond to it. And as distant and different as it was, he has this quote in there that I didn't really understand until 2020, which

I didn't understand meditations as a book written during a plague, but it was. And he says, you know, there's two types of pestilences. He's like, there's one that can destroy your life. That's the actual virus. And then he says, there's the one that can destroy your character. And you could say, there's also the one that can destroy your brain. There's a whole bunch of people that we haven't gotten back since COVID. And they caught a different kind of virus, usually on the internet. And that is...

tragic thing. I think it goes to what I've been trying to say is our big problem. How do you stay sane in an insane world? And how do you stay sort of clean and unaffected or uninfected when all these people around you are catching this thing? And it's not always...

about infectious diseases, but it's a mistrust in institutions or it's a loathing for a specific group of people. I mean, you could argue anti-Semitism is like the oldest virus that there is. And many of the Romans caught it. So there's always been this thing that spreads amongst human beings of distrust and hatred and disillusionment and despair. And the ability to not be infected with it is kind of like the ultimate thing

that we have to have. We have to figure out how you immunize yourself. How do you develop an information diet, cultivate a sort of sense of self, an information ecosystem that allows you to get information from people who you agree with and disagree with without also breaking your brain as so many smart people seem to have done.

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