Travis Pastrana on Passion VS Money, His Worst Crash, & Electric Vehicles in Motorsports
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Could crashed anyway little he was I want proximately to near death situations you're too stupid to ever make IT as a racer and think god freestyle came out turned down a little million dollar contract to which motorcycles I want to try racing. There's no amount of money with what you're going to put your body through.

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travis is stronger, man. Thank you for comment. This is quite honor being the life wide open podcast. I think there's no Better guest to have that quite honestly, lives their life wide .

d open more than you. I really appreciate guys. Me, like three, went to natural circuses last week.

Yeah, yeah. So yeah. Thanks for thanks. support. good.

I mean, we wouldn't be here without you and I know you hear this all the time, but like we grew up watching nitro circus, like wanting to be just like you and we're we're nothing like you. We can arrive like you, we can do. But I mean, I think without what you've done, we wouldn't be making the videos and we won't be senior right now. So it's super like IT feels really weird for me, like sitting here with you on our podcast.

IT feels so cool. So thank you. IT living never growing up, just living life like open, having a lot of fun.

So it's it's always really cool when I see you know people coming up that they did was natural circus. You and like my dad said, he like it's nothing new. He's like we've been token stuff behind cars and doing the all the stuff he was. He just, we finally have a platform now with we had dvds before youtube and know you guys with youtube, you can actually go out, have fun with your friends and you try to make a living travel in the world, do what you want to do. Yeah.

did we hear the same thing? So I do IT if if me my bodies had video cameras and youtube back when we were on, we'd be bigger, new, you know, all that. But no, I was pumped to see andy bell about the van.

And I was like, what? six. Because, like I said, we just been big natural circus fans for a long time, so he hasn't cut his hair.

That's why I didn't .

really recognize them right away at the sunlight is the hat on.

But yes, so literally the genome way back when was like you got to be the biggest fan. And no matter what they were sticking in, until until I won a askar race, he couldn't cut his hair. And then he kind like this. So he just kind of kept running at super long and like in the letter. So yeah, he's here to finally get a haircut.

Good end.

Yeah, fifteen .

years we do IT today.

I only .

if I win. Let me heal if if straight to vote.

The starks, yeah.

yeah. We're taking the starks of agas.

The rule is always been with here that you have to ride the vehicle home. So like the helicopter of the water, I need a couple charges. Yes, be interesting.

We'll figured out honestly that seems like the list of our concerns right now, how we're going to get our starts home that's pretty low on our we grow out list wish for thinking to have that problem.

This race has real, actual drivers like yourself. And then IT has people like ben. Have you seen the video him hitting the tree in the hook?

Orn, well, that was like a really short video. Yeah.

first.

And IT was a long video. I'm just saying like I was all excited to see you going to IT.

IT was second time. Yeah yeah. So anyway, love the rakes. There's no trees today. I just got done .

with like pretty much in our long podcast of clay is just cooking me on IT. So and then everyone i've met here has brought that up of me. So i've figured out that you word has spread that i'm a part of this race. And I think it's going to actually do me a favor because they're going to just get out of my way.

But I mean, you guys, guys like greg bio, one of the greatest national car drivers of all time. I actually, I hired a ringer because in a two persons race. So the first person's job is just to not crash the .

vehicle first. So what are we do?

So the second person is really ninety nine point nine years in the race. However, i'm going first, so i'll be with you just like i'm here for the sherman.

There's back of the cars for a reason.

Yeah, the boys were just joking. Like adam, do we should have thrown some tree stickers on the back of people's cars? So I try, I think, where is the tree? I mean, you're seemed pretty good.

You get know a who is actually an asco racer who who get privilege of meeting when we are a teledesic. Great dude. But yeah, as soon as I saw that that was the lineup was like, dude or so cooked.

It'll be you guys that every time blood at the end of the day, there's probably a have second difference to in the best car. In the worst car and clear doesn't stack IT like clas has been in the worst car quite a few times where yeah you can tell like okay, this person is good, but i'm just unflagging industry laser. Like my first time we could qualify.

Well, we ran okay, but I didn't have first year, so I went for the last every restart. So as long as I didn't restart like you coming up, so there are old in a crown vics, there's going to be a difference. Now generally, one of your top drivers is going to win because one of them is going to be in a car that's decent.

But you great wall jumps in and like one of the greatest national car drivers as well time and he goes out there and he's run and you know seven eighty nine to some youtube ers that you know no sense. But at the other day, it's a low horse power car. You're pretty much wide open most of time. This is a cool track as you get some some exams. Yeah, no trees.

So do you have any advice for me?

I haven't want yet. I heard a ringer. Get a Better person to do the.

oh my god, I got mike, I got this I got can slow and steady yeah, we have a flood plane that sounds like, yeah, I tally this this too. I was like why I know that you didn't invite us here for the competition. So I hope that we can at least provide on the entertainment fact.

you know, the silos came out, the that whole group, awesome athletes, worse drivers. I was like, what every group is like one red neck, they can just drive. They didn't have that. But he stayed on the the lab and actually had a decent finish at the ankers. Well, i'll be bump in each other, I mean clear, and I will be spend each other every chance we get that we were one, two and spending each other back to, like almost completely other race.

But IT was great. So bs race, rob robb's. I know the movie .

do is so you've .

done so many different things as far as you know, racing motor ross, to freestyle, to rally car is a kind of fun being a part of just something that is just like so low risk. I guess you could call IT of like know what's on the line as far as sponsorships or anything like that. But you just get to go out there and have fun when you've done you know about every race that you can .

imagine at the end of day, you have its already to lined up. There's going to be a completely sold out crowd of current thesis of people that love motors they love. They might be rooting for one of their favorite youtube might run for one the favor drivers.

They come from all over the country and they stay and they clean up the trash like they at the end of the race. They feel like you're part of this is so cool. So everyone goes out science autograft.

But what other event can you fly in in the morning? Like, not even that early. You go, you hang out, you sign autograph, you talk to everyone, you talk cars, you have fun, you meet some of your your heroes, some legends, some past driver, some up in coming celebrities, whatever is.

And then you go out there and you have the best time that you can possibly have destroying your cambia you know, of the day. It's not a fast car. You're not going to hit anything that hard.

Then you just wipe your hands and walk away. That's it's beautiful. So obviously, starks are the the prize of today. What do you think about like the electric starbucks? I know you post a video while ago, right in.

So electric is kind of killing motorsport in general. But as a writer and A A driver, like I love them there, I mean, I don't mean that negatively. Like my dad IT doesn't matter how fast they are. Like I literally, I put him in a car zero to sixty in one point two seconds. All will drive thousand rose power with an extra two hundred rose power boost the cars, the most fun thing you can ever drive.

And give me go on a hundred miles hour, break the wheels loose and do a donate and never worry about stalling IT just makes driving so much simple to these things as soon as people really figured that out and they get the break. But you don't have to change your flight to where the break is. And I can like, you can literally almost lip over frameworks and almost loop out in the same jump. So like a double backlit on these of a Normal rap, I can do, I can do in a back clip a single flip wide open. Just so triple flips on these are so much easier and the guys you're think in quite flips, flips are easy.

This is a crazy statement though.

But even front flips, like when you if you're wide open on the gas and you hit the break for whatever reason, you don't have to worry about the clutter, you don't to worry about stalling. I'm thinking like bike clips like you what they do in bm x world that you can't really do on motorcyle because of the geno, like you can hit the breaks, lock everything down and and start IT back up and not worry about stalling like this. I wish I was Younger because that it's i'm just only triple it's .

to push agression of the sport. You think it's be even though a lot of the old timers like you're kind of, I think, a looting to your dad don't like IT yeah just .

if IT doesn't make noise that that feeling the ela gas. But at the end of the day, like my kids growing up, they can will White and super set in the backyard and their friends can all be riding motorcycles and they can all be on their they go carts and then whatever, as long as there no does, no one really cares. So IT allows, IT just opens up so many more tracks and opportunities.

The neighbors love IT to do. Neighbor, like the urban motto, like with the escape parks and the start with the starks and stuff like that. I mean, cool, you can kind of get away with you. But I also might not be the best you know cut starks fine around the skatepark with little kids on scooters like I mean.

i'm kind of against that part because eventually we're seeing to shut down through that everything. But the fact that they are quite enough .

that you can do IT is is pretty cool. You really got into freestyle motorcycle. The bike started progressing through that.

But I would feel like gas bikes are very similar to what they would be. I want to say two thousand ord. And now there's not massive change. So short of going to electric, do you feel like you would have been Better if you had the bikes? Now, verse of the bike shade when you are kid?

No, not really. I mean, know the end of the day, if you watch super cross back in in ninety six like it's so compared to supercross in two thousand five compared to the writers get in Better shape ot by the time you get great at your sport nowadays no longer love what you do by the time you get good enough to do what you love, you longer love what you do because these kids are starting I mean, I started for, but IT was about having fund like no one was pushing you.

Oh yeah, let's go. You're going to make a living doing this. I was trying to push you the opposite direction like what are you're wasting your time on skate boards and bm x and on the stuff.

And now you knew the olympics doing the stuff and it's got ten so much more difficult to be the best you have to be. So it's taking a sport in my opinion. I mean, more across been around, but you have all these sports in freestyle and x games that we're all about having fun.

Now you put them in the olympics and IT changes the sport yeah you know the video parts aren't as as big, but then and we used to to have a year to make a video part. You guys have to a video part every week. yes. Yeah, it's a it's .

interesting how social media has played a factor and that of, you know everything is so readily available now where you're throwing instagram and you might see somebody do a double back flip and you might not even finish the video because it's like the next thing that you see is going to be just as insane. Where's when you did the first double backflip create x games but like you had to be watching x games to like, see that and I think just x games in general was probably like, you know, at the peak when you had to be like physically watching IT yeah like what do you think that like social media has played a factor? And just like elevating the sport of freestyle, motor cross and like how much crazier the tricks are getting?

Well, it's made IT reached. Everyone says, how do I get a nature circus, or how do I become if you're doing something that no one else is doing, you can be in anywhere in the world from any walk life. It's going to get you whatever you want to go.

The hard part is that everything is visible. They don't show. They just show the crash, but they don't show the injuries. Everything else. I think it's it's a catch one two because it's like in your face all the time and before if you came up with a good trick, you could save IT for six months and come out next games or gravity games or whatever the event was. Now as soon as you do IT, it's online and you have to do something Better next week.

not even next month. Where's the line in the sand get drawn of like you know this is this is how crazy the sport can get and tell its like you're trying out of five backflips and if you don't land IT your debt now.

But he is more creative if you get like exotic ges, he's like art. I don't want to do the flips. He's doing flips down and stuff, but he's like i'm going to do like lda really and all the other fun stuff.

So it's ah it's always about being creative in finding Lucy guys. It's you're not reinventing the wheel, but you're like what do we really love to do? And end of the day, please, is proved IT out here. If you're passionate about something and you love IT, you're going to do IT anyway and you're going to find people that are passion ate .

about the same thing. No, I think for sure that like when you're passion about something or you just want to do IT, the end results going to be so much Better than if you're just doing something for money or cloud, whatever, butter. And and that is a testament of today.

You look at the lineup of people that are coming here like huge, huge names and like they are just common, literally, for fun. No one's being paid to do this. They're common because they love driving.

They love, you know, this scene. I mean, I I still back and watch your double back flip do it's so lit, is just so lit. And like, IT was packed jam pack in there like.

mean, tony hawks, nine, one hundred. And now there was literally an eleven old that was warming up with nine going for tens. And you're like.

when did this happen? yes. So do you think that IT happened? Because now it's like the training regime is just people are are craft of training regiment. I can't imagine people were training as hard back in the day versus now like in terms of like fitness. Do you feel like there no IT .

definitely moto ross a little bit. But now there's so much more your fingertips. I mean, success leaves bread drums.

And but the thing was that used to be the memoires a and you, brian degen, and trust me, a dirt. People just went out like jeff, immigrant migrants with the top of races, and they were still doing freestyle. They were going out and writing and having fun.

At a certain extent, racing has lost a little bit of that passion, but at the same time, not taking anything away, because these guys work so much harder. They put their whole lives, their parents of sacrificer family. And if you can get on top of the sport nowadays, don't care what IT is.

You have dedicated sacrifice. You bled sweat, tears and I have so much respect for anyone that's made IT, but that's wife events like this work. It's not about the money.

People just love driving. They love around people that are passion and haven't fun in. It's really call to be able to come out and meet you guys came out and the as fun.

How about so like you mention metal militia back, uh, when I was brian deegan versus travel's astronaut, did you guys actually not like each other or maybe. I don't know. Like, how did you feel like told each other you think you you'd ever like getting a physical altercation back then? I was a possible. Or was that even?

Like, so the funniest part about that was in the start of free style to crush had mad my Jones clipper the fly and hollan adam to cowboy Kenny bathroom. Like, we just wanted to fight out how to ride a motorcycle and have fun and to make a living at IT.

And everyone was building the sport any way they could, building their image, building whatever we could to be able to go and do circus tricks on on more cycle, and to be able to travel the world with your friends and and find cool places to ride. So I was just this guilty too shoes straight student racer that happened really like free style moto ross and bryan, as a show man, was like, I got a way to that. This is going to work like bryan went to a level so far above and beyond like he didn't have a trick for gravity games one year.

And he told all of the producers and everyone at nbc like this is when for youtube, like it's a big network and he's like, I got the biggest trick i'm not showing when I got the biggest tricks, it's gonna use everyone's building up brand y and and a. He picks a fight with the police office of the day before ww doesn't post bail business, man. And the whole thing was all the man's keeping down. And i'm like. He would a Crystal, I went, gravity get so, so just took the .

rocks right out from .

monday completely. I'm like, he did, had he had nothing. But like, he is a very smart, you big. I ouldn't have gone the same problem.

But he was, I mean, dieting was great because he knew he did work hard, no, despite what is image, everything. And he knew exactly what he had to do and what he had to do. And even if he didn't have IT, he would go for IT anyway.

And I think that's what a crowd like because he's like, well, I haven't one in two years. I got to send something big. He go out, you be going to die .

literally yeah so where people taking sides, as far as I know, i'm team tp or team digin. And would they have any kind of like altercations.

like if you were walking on the street, you saw someone in some metal militia area or fuck.

I was just too goofy to realize anything was going on. Honestly, he was great, like my parents, to come up like oma astro.

So he was pretty core to hand sen.

he was, but is that he didn't believe in a thing like he he was honest. He just figured out away. He's like, look, this kid, there has to be an opposite.

There's got to be, there's got a fight. There's to be a show. I I just didn't know that I was part of IT. I so that .

answers my question yes.

it's kind of like A W W E, almost like you had the heel and you had I can't really like the good guy.

the guy and yeah I I play a role. The dig indeed because that helped us all the way through unfortunately. Like as a teenage kid coming up like kind of dorky training student guy, like digin head, all of the girls, all of the really like all the parents were like, ah go get him like just strippers something I like you would .

have been a memoires.

Yeah, the whole time I just, I just that I did run A A rock a lot of medal militia gear over the years. I will admit that yeah, but I was never not on team astronaut. What year was that that you guys we're both going for the .

two sixties you seen up this. This was yeah two thousand two l calcium IT was absolutely awesome. So I didn't know, like youtube was just really starting. And my friend posted something on the internet digging saw IT. So my friend Chris ain, thank you, Chris.

Post this on the internet about a month and a half before extremes they can sees IT has a phone pit and gets IT doesn't qualify as well does the three sixty first names at the moitie twist I like again, I said I saw on the youtube and you should check IT that oh yeah, that was the first of many, many weeks. Now that's you. But now it's it's a platform. It's not just a leak platform. It's like literally you guys to do IT back .

then knows like kind of use post to that and you weren't expecting people to see.

you know, has anyone recreated the tp seven? Not yet. So the that's the crazy st like two date i've said on this park. As mult times, that is the crazy st trick i've ever seen done.

So he was easier to ada flip. So with the dirt bike, the only way to really start the rotation, like you can get IT spin in real fast in a flip, but it's not like A B M X bike summer scooter, where you can kind of spin in off the lip, so you gonna get to pull the flip first.

And it's so hard, if you knew a backlit on eighty pretty easily, because you pull a flip and as hard as you can pull and as hard as you can spin, and get a half of a rotation of spin to a full rotation of flip. So I was like it's gonna easier to add a flip is like just i'm going to a double court tenant or yeah makes sense um so that was actually way easier. So I started on among bikes and i'm so inconsistent with like the back lip, three, sixty.

just had another flip, had a lip. Would that have been easier on the start? Your ways with the electric talk? Hundred percent. Did I hear rumor that there might be like a triple, seven.

twenty, maybe in the work, not for me. No one's completed any like even a back clip with a twist yet. So there's still watching up to two thousand and twelve. But those as prety .

cool that I mean like on technically older technology, people are still chasing what the bar that you said.

So most people, they wanted to win. For me, racing was winning. Freestyle was, is always about fun. So even when there was money involved, like, I was always a racist heart, and I was like, I don't even care really, if I win this event, I want to do something cool, something never been done, something that pushes myself, that the what can be done, like on a motorcycle in general, I would use kind of all the money that I meet in freestyle to build ramps. And just, I mean, we had a forty four foot tall takeoff. We're going over one hundred feet in the air trying to travel backlights, and most people just showed up into the rap gig. Lan and left never came.

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before even the phone pics. We thought, being a trolling product, that the film was not going to be a great idea. They didn't have the double partment.

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he landed on the fine. Did A P, I, one chAmber for air so .

as to and everything, it's Better but we actually worked with the a comment called bag jump out of austria and joshi and and can only do about three triples attempts a day, so he would drop about sixty feet out onto a flat bag and with a motor ycl on topic, like I was just bad, like pisces and blood, not a good thing like you.

So he's like, what if we can get the bag flat? Because like giving with from flips anything you're doing, how you're landing on a flat bag is totally different thing. You going to land. So we developed the first bag on an angle, and I was cooks when. And we get to hit up by oldest, like snowball ders and olympic committees were all over the world, like, oh, how to do this? And then bag jump took IT, and they perfectly and made a lot cheap er eventually but it's it's cool to be on that kind of four front .

of safety yeah your compound paste onto and I mean just legendary itself and I think anyone growing up that watch nature circular freedom factory you know looked at like having a compound like that and was just like dreamed of and especially with us when we got our shop and we built our tracks and everything like that, you just kind of like chip away at IT and eventually you get a cool compound. Is that kind of what the case was with pasta onto land? Did you just get IT a piece of land and add a rap and a phone pit and just kind of just continue to build on to IT and make IT into what IT is?

My hero growing up was getting guy airtime. Cooper, he was on as he was mr. zui. I, so I was on sui, eight years old. This guy is a multimillionaire and he comes around the corner in a beter car just flogging this thing and just like smashes into the side of his shaddy. We know where they're just doing IT because he just and i'm like, this guy is awesome.

My mom is like, can you believe this guy is just is like, literally, has he got blood on from whatever from this morning is covered in just oklahoma red dirt. All you can see is the Whites of his teeth just just like that doesn't seem like someone that has a lot of money and like you really like, that's a dream. This this is what? And he had tracks and motorcycles and go cards.

And IT was just as Cooper. And so that was always my goals to have like a little mini Cooper land. And over the years.

it's become a it's full on compound.

But I think anyone dreams of going on there. Our body gave s been there. Hopefully one day we can come quite. We're prety scared because being forced to do with something like a back lip, not forced do IT. But I feel half to when .

you go to a strong. And the hard part is when there's like an seven year old girl doing a backflip to dirt, you're like not to be sexy, but you you have to like, IT was good. The blocks came over in.

Ka ken's a middle ughi like doesn't really ride your books and we were trying to get mike to do IT. Mike is like, I I don't know. I don't think I want to here just comes out and nowhere.

And just like launches, like sea mounds, he was so high. I'm like, this is, this is awesome. It's a place that people either go and they go all out.

They're like, i'm going to do everything and they give her really quick where they go. I'm not touching anything here and then they don't get to experience any of IT. So it's rare that we find that crew like the six cos game over like those guys. We're just a crew that I didn't know a lot about and you five or seven of the guys went to dirt on day yeah.

they send me, send IT that was awesome.

But they've got good arial awareness like they do flips on skies and stuff like that, which I feel like I I know .

for a hundred percent. I lack stand IT took over three years.

Yes.

I did .

never give up.

So you mention like the .

money and like put that back into your compound. And how much like different was the money back and say two thousand three, two thousand and five in freestyle verses. Now was there quite a bit more money? If you took the first place at x games, I imagine you get a pretty good prize.

Freestyle was huge from ninety, the early nineties when XM started, and freestyle motorcycle rought IT in nineteen. So we had just started. Our first ever like freestyle world championship was in ninety eight, which was awesome because image gma graph we're judging yeah was good I trash and they gave me tens was it's like scary but sorry, I changed.

But when we got to go to x games, I mean, my grandma was watching was before the internet. So it's like people have to watch. It's on E, S. P. It's on A A regular network that was IT was so cool for you.

Cancel your plans to be.

they are to watch IT alive. I onder that when x games on in the summer was like being go outside for a whole week because you .

were watch next for me in my adhd friends, IT was the only TV we watched and we did not miss anything. You watching mirror hot.

I used to watch a fuel TV. IT was later, but fuel had like all the channels like that.

Ond you have an episode there. But yeah like so like the money was obviously greater. Like are you able to say like if someone took the first place, like what kind of prize like .

cash prize was that in ninety nine, the first place was thousand dollars. And generally there are weren't like the sponsors that were like ziua, I had to buy my own motorcycle like sugi believing as a racer and they were like, if you take one of our bikes that we're giving you and do this freestyle stuff, like you're fired nobody.

So I was kind of a weird little world that I working in, but ten thousand hours for the first year and by two thousand and three, fifty grand for first. And generally there be a sponsor like a dc shoes or whatever energy, drink or whatever. You're getting double that trip, right? You could go to x games and if you had decent sponsorship, you could win one year. I want like three gold medals and each one of those was fifty grand plastic came with you know fifty grand bonus or or you had medical bills that were bigger that but still like IT IT was your one .

chance that just to go. So is there more money now, like with social media and spots.

is there more money? Yes, but it's very different. Like even racing jet Lance, maybe digging could be exceptions. They've gone beyond motorsport, if you will. Yeah, really taking that whole next generation up.

please. This is going to do. Let's go.

That thing sick. That's a fourth burnt.

I he does that all day long like .

the freedom factory.

That sounds like gear truck bend.

squeak a little bit. Yes, got a little squeak. Minds get more of of a tin. So have a hole is bumper either? Yeah, that things a little bit different than mine.

You think them like model guys are getting the money they deserve. You don't underpaid right now.

Look, at the end of the day, if you're able to do what you love for for a living, you going to do in anyway no is like rebel rampage. They were doing IT for free. And the rebel steps up gives them a little bit money.

Someone get hurt. And like why rents you pay in, the more in the like these guys are doing in anyway, we're giving them something. You know, for me, i've i've always thought i've been very fortunate to do what I love to do.

And so my alcohol was called back ever bronco s for two years. You get knocked out by Price before your time, but I mean, definitely for all of our times. But he got knocked out by high tower from police academy that there's actually a astronaut's le in the nfl.

The time the quarterback was the only one to allowed to call time out. So the first year they had like the playoffs. My uncle is not unconscious. His team is trying to get him to take take his hands and put them together. So after that, then the coaches .

is a lot of all time .

out to so yeah so that yeah yeah. But long to very long my apple is he was never quite the same matter, just like because they didn't know what back the day needs, inject tim is whatever, and just keep on going so he he destroyed his body and then became a new health teacher and low community college. And dad said, he's the best athlete that's come out of our town, maybe your state, and he's still working construction and he's teaching health at the local community lodge that you're never going to make a living doing what you love to do. But any day that you cannot get up and do construction, do IT is like I would give anything to be able to to take one lap around detonator to do whatever.

So I kind of came out out with this different mentality where everyone else was like, I got to win my dads like, look, just work hard if you love IT do IT if you don't, it's not worth the physical there's no amount of money worth what you're going to put your body through so he was the down the pit where like my dad and marine and he's he's stuff like and work hard. But at the day he is the only dad that has slow down on the pit board. Like if I was going to roll, like launched. So just don't do the big jump. You going to kill yourself.

You mean I did not work with you? I and say was IT .

like reverse psychology, like you knew what he was doing. Slow down, you are only going to a twist IT .

wider no like so there's one years and eleven years old and that was pretty big for a cc motorcycle that time and we basically more completely out and the dads like, look, mom to you know he work too double to figure out how to make this happen. Or all my uncles are taken basically pay us to to get the gas and everything. So we go out and is like we have to win the chair ship.

And i'm dominate the first two models, three moto format. And there's a big jump that we can, Ricky car mics doing and I really like that. So he was like his fourteen and he's got a big wheel, so he had like little bit power.

And i'm like, I can do IT that's like just just went like, look, we've literally we've spent every last time we need this camping ship. We just if you want to raise motorcycles, you have you just told to the jump. I like, I can make IT with nobody.

Like literally no one cares. Just win this chemical please. Let's get zoom e happy like we're going to get sponsors. We're going to go us like enough money in suzuki box to like paper gas to take last lap, hit the jump, land in two black eyes, bloody nose, didn't breaking.

And think, is the motorcycle the hub? Like the old al collapsed force in the ground, broke the bike off, like at the the hand bars you case to that hard, I was bad. I was fifty, fifty. Just front that the back you face plan that IT was a hit.

My dad came over and he was deciding whether he was gonna super, super pissed off or like, worried if I was actually alive because the bike just sees broken and have so judge over so he sees that i'm okay. He starched yelling and i'm laughing like, did you see that? And just just that was like, okay, it's like, well, if I learned anything from his brother is that you do this because you love to do IT.

We're giving you an opportunity to chase your dreams, however far that may be. And you're kind of at sixteen, you're going to be working construction with us or you're going to in the military like the rest stator, whatever. But you you're too stupid to ever make IT as a racer and think god freestyle came out yeah let's .

my life in that wow don't do IT don't do i'm going to do ah impose .

that one on that one just I thought I could .

make IT realistically going .

to freestyle was the best thing that ever happened to you. You just became even bigger star like.

So I mean, racing like the motorcyle industry. The races will never forget me if you like. You came out at sixteen as a Young person, went after the national shame ship when over represent the U.

S. And more across nations one, the more across nations one. The super ross the next year, seventeen, like IT, was a great start.

And I just want you to have fun. And I wanted do freestyle and then Carry heart, does a back lip. And I go, let's try that and I break my foot at half way through the sea.

I didn't miss a race, but like, you know, was just those things that road to costers like to, i'm paying you to to and I I would work hard, like I put in the time. And running, bicycling, doing everything is just when everyone else was resting. You riding my dear bike.

I was what I love to do, and I was very fortunate. My parents allowed me to kind of chase these dreams and know I turned down a multimillion dollar contract to raise motorcycles because I want to try racing cars. And I put every day that more across my test, just and just like you.

why? But no, but it's because him. It's because of of my parents, is because they always allowed me to chase my dreams. And if I did exactly what everyone wanted me to do, the oldest ever supercross champion was twenty nine years old. Like i'm forty one.

Where here the freedom factory, we're still living this this dream and it's I mean, yet it's different now it's change some a little bit order, a little bit more crippled. But like I still have fun every day waking up. And now I going to do with my my wife with three times next games, gold medals and my kids, they went into cheer. I thought of the tumbling and the flipping and stuff was going to lead them action sports. But it's great because I can go to a cheer .

comp and not one person recognized me. Yeah, your dad.

I'm just i'm there .

you know even famous for a really long time over two decades now, right?

Doesn't get old. So we were on on vacation in europe this this year and guy comes over and or waiter and he he actually starts crying. He just pushes like my wife side my like, can you take a photo? And he is like, really, he barely speak english.

Yes, and we can get away from that. But what's really cool about that is the data that stops is the day that I can go out and crash cars and ride motorcycles and hanging out with my friends and fly around the world. Now my goal now, honestly, with starting a youtube channel is to be like you guys, it's to have this group together, like I wanted to have my friends together and travel the world, and we did that.

Now I don't really want to trade the world. I want to be with my family. And the youtube given us a chance to all of us that are a little bit older that don't really want to be the best in the world. Yeah and we still want to push ourselves. And sometimes that do myself has never been done just taking that mentality and trying to to get IT.

What we do, and that's something I really admire about you, is how you you set up camp in in maryland where you grew up and then you still have all of your best friends around you like yet street by Tommy and andy bell hopes out the van like IT is very much so like us, like I said, you guys just a lot more skilled. But like we grew up, you know, a small town together and and now were hanging in out doing all this stuff.

Is there any advice that you would have for us, you know, being that you've done so much with your friends, you know, just ways to avoid conflicts that you've maybe .

had not really I think in the end, people grow apart and most of time grow back together because which is it's hard because a lot of times there's just so many hours like everyone sees the the good side of IT, but you editing the videos and getting stuff out and trying to get the sponsors and figure out you know how it's actually going to be sustainable. It's not easy.

You guys have done awesome but the biggest thing for us was that, like any bell at one point, he goes, hey, it's not enough money for for me like fifty thousand dollars that we were all going to get to do a movie and and goes, I can't put my life on hold for fifty thousand dollars. Like, I got a way, if I got Morgans, I got, know, I I can't quit my job for this so he went and he said, but I think I could be a producer, I could be a director. I could do this.

So he started sweat pants media and they had the second biggest commercial last year. He's going to win ams and all kinds of stuff. And now he can run his production company. And he's the big boss that doesn't really have to be there.

So he can come on and he can produce all the stuff, and then he can hire himself as the stunt driver for the stuff and to be around and again, again and a lot of times. People will go away, but most of the time we'll come back like the end of the day. Street by timing is still hang in sheet rock and gym to chap is now working. He's a crane Operator and jim, we only see on the weekends yeah but he still comes over and he puts on on by great step astronaut and three, four times a year and we go out there and and we still push super heart even though he looks like we all out of shape and we are but it's still fun.

Now i'm sure you get billboards and whatever. You know, there's like a home of travis pastrana when you drive in a town. But like, what did your town think of you who logans as kids? Like, where they on board or where they like.

I don't know about these guys. We were pretty good to too shoe, if you like, what we did. The only thing that i'm amazed that was that we lived on a posted stamp.

I mean, we my dad like and mingles construction IT was unlike a half a aker. So that's why did freestone because I was always he had like three piles of dirt and they we're always leaving in coming back in rockpile. Es was basic, like just build a track and you race around the shop.

But that's in the middle of an apple ice. It's a mile from downtown. An appeal. S and no neighbors complained.

So my dad was one to nine and they were like, all american football across so in the construction. So the town knew you will grew up if you were in the town you're with one of unles answered. The family is is pretty big in that area. So they drove too fast. But yeah, they had A A general respect for the law.

So they, like you guys.

yeah we didn't cause a lot of disturbances other than the fact were loud.

And we were surprised when we we got to hang with greg god free and some of like went to those places, utah. And we couldn't believe that some of these zones that you were thought we're like way out in the middle wherever and you're like, oh, it's just right behind the trucking shop like IT was just you guys just carvel what you needed into this little zone?

Everyone even people think like astronauts, IT is huge and they go around back and just a rap rava. But we built everything. It's twenty acres like we've got a list of trees .

around the outside for twenty acres.

There's a lot of beauty, but know it's our friends down. Like I said that andy, is we're producing we get net vessel is of a welder. And like our whole crew, no matter what we need done, no matter what we need build, we've got access to to to everything. And that's that's kind of which really need about about being there and being .

home with the youtube channel. Guys want continue to do you know things outside of maybe their bikes and just the general motor's force that you .

been doing without IT out. My goal is to be able to build fund stuff, go car tracks, the drift ads, anything even. What could this is to doing here? Like really want to build a next level like natural across style canon course that is like healthy scare IT to drive, and then just started and vision, like guys like you may like, right.

have IT do. We will flip over max so fast. There is one thing that we are guaranteed to do every single one. So that Normally happens.

But IT was ool. We had no aggress and come over because he was going to drive the subby size this weekend. And at nature cross, he was on two wheels in the first term.

He had never driven all wheel driving his life. He never flip. He never broke anything. He never hit a tree. I've never been so .

impressed what is also a professional national car racer.

but some people, just like all as car, those guys, you know, they used to and left, no, those they're not only the best drivers, but they drive five times a week and every lap is on the clock.

Man, anyone that's just saying you just go fast and turn left. I don't think it's been to a nice car races and like experienced and up cloth, like it's it's insane how fast they're going on. So a street back to me.

we were doing a drift pad is like why I could beat anyone and ask car. I like, like, so we get out and he's like, all i'm good until the car start sliding I thought, tell me you're just aiming IT until the car starts sliding like I was going around the corner and I was drifting this whole corner and freking my my teammate travel bag comes around the outside of me at ristal first time there.

Like, what are you doing? He's like, well, what what sliding i'm like, do i'm sliding the whole corner is front, rear and i'm like rear. He's like, then tighten IT up because until the car is sliding all four wheels equally and then if one starts lighting more than other of the front or whatever, you change your your entry and then you change. We have these little fans that go to like basically just divert air of the tires like you have the the air pressure has to come up to temperature equally. So it's not just driving .

that's so technical. IT was amazing.

so I learned a lot, but I didn't know. I was called trickle. Put me the car I could drive to do a couple apps. good. Could never figured out the thing.

Oh my god, I can be me at today. I was just trying to figure out I .

had not at the wall, can we?

How long did you raise? Next car, got to do the date on a five hundred. And sick, the dream of any guy who's ever driven a car, ever to driving the .

date on a five hundred. I literally went to ask her, so on four us. Road cham ships and was either go to europe and chase W.

C. Or try something else. I am like, man, I don't know anything about this car. Let's go and I showed up to the first race with A O T shirt that said, boring in next car front, got my ascap and I was like, alright, physically, just all the track.

I'm like, what is these guys are actually really, really good, and they all like everyones like also a good old boys club. You'll never get in there. Everyone helped out so much. No, this IT was just a IT was right .

not to call evan out but i'm going to you feel the same way about ask are you they're .

just turning in left no, I was stating at from a spectator ors point of view that I didn't think IT was the most exciting form of racing to watch like on TV. But I knew it's all all strategy like they are the same track thought that you didn't have have so as the cameras yeah yes.

I think we have a podcasts saying all you do is turn left and push the gas. Yes.

from the from I set up what from the .

viewing standpoint like I guess i'd rather watch like .

a drifting or something.

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when they gave a free drink.

Yeah, yeah, the good part worked out.

The cool part of about nascar is like literally anyone, not anybody can win. But the best average finished this year was twelve place. That's like unheard of this.

So many things happen.

We went to tell the ga, and there was a crash over the finish line. Well, thankfully no one was hurt, but IT was so electric. Oh my god, we're just like thrown in our drinks in the air.

Five, five in each other car. The car goes side, writing the wall. And right there in front of us was across the finishing.

and he was so insane, my first run at a tonne start like, frickin, this is awesome. Going to get pounded around. Someone hits larsson. He goes up his car to syn grates. And it's like in the the fence you go on two hundred miles hour.

I didn't know where to go, so I go across the grass and i'm spinning backwards through the grass to two hundred miles an hour. And I ve still got tenth. And I was so bombed like, man told you we won the race. We could have been, you could have been tough. Five friends, like, did I would have given anything to be going backwards across the, I think, so awesome.

How come you never got into writing snowbound?

Ls, because gerbier the snowball?

Ls, but you do IT in the warm. You don't fuck called. no. Can lame.

You did back look a so first time on IT yeah my friends are horrible. They said is like a foreward. It's not like a foreward you guess is to me I could so I couldn't turn IT all but like the jumping seems fine that was like a little hill and like with the freestyle, can't feel my fingers, can feel my feet.

I got mittens on hard to hold on .

to the bars of minds. IT was so I jumped at once and I went all the way to flat. Like because I didn't have years. Like I was kind like to start like I don't know how to gage yeah I don't engage IT correctly so I always jump like just slam and fall off and then someone so you so do you could flip anything fine so I can't feel my fingers and the globe, the mitton, blows off my right hand. I'm upside down doing a one to hand back lip and i'm like, I see there's a good so I jumped off and I pink window down the landing that .

was ice you're going you're going straight to snow .

is a metal rap set at seventy five feet because why would you try IT forty first or something.

right? yeah. And so first, like hour of writing, snowy.

no, first five minutes .

you shoot the first one and then you just go straight for the back because I crash .

suck and my little that is so insane.

And then I didn't try to again .

because luckily the sled kind of like on land but I was fine. I was just penguins laying down the landing like, don't let so I think .

what's so it's a little bit of question. This was ice. Yeah, ice doesn't have much question.

You have never run the mountains.

Yes, andy bell took me to the mountains, and they were very disappointed. They took me because I was stuck. The entire did nothing made sense. I got on one that had like a track on the back of the motorcycle. Yes, yeah but then was like an undercover yeah like one twenty five yes.

they don't get around well and now you're like half metal. So the metal can't feel good in the cold right .

in hot tub all the time. And IT once like dress for her, but then you dress warmer and then you're sweating, then you take IT off and then you're frozen.

It's is no. So our friend leave by the valley. He is the man. He is the man. When we had among the podcast, he said that when he had talked to you, he said that you're very devalue value because of the .

way that he's built.

Yes, short. He knows how to take a fall because you can just kind of roll out of IT whether you are taller, more lengthy and you kind of more well.

we always called great guy through the muscle hampshire, but if there was any other muscle hamster, sorry, we were, he's got a way with stuff that would have .

killed in a mere model that's hand hea't stand up and kind of get a reference here. yeah. So like about same sizes ever is a way Better shape doesn't have as much going on down here.

Yeah I mean, even with event like they do knows how to take for I think that's a big part. Have to it's like survival mode. You take the far don't yeah but it's like a cat you've kind of looted to a couple crashes that you've had injuries. I heard that you ve had thirty five different surgeries this year.

I got my forty fifth Operation. Which one is the worst? Anyone that keeps you from doing you love. And it's honestly, I got a new replacement that suck. I am going on in this year for actually next month for a new .

hip was going to a ask what was the worst injury? Not because the pain, but like the one that you miss and maybe not like a competition, but maybe you were like a you you were going on a trip and you couldn't go because you heard something like that was everyone that you were like, man, this one really wasn't worth IT or of suck most.

I think everything kind of LED me to wear. I am now, but definitely I had the flu really bad in the best of my life. IT was one week from the start of the the chairmanship, and i've been sick for a whole week.

And I was like, i'm just going go right. The hills is still ranch and great god is there and the film crews there. And was a big step up that we've built. Ever seen something that you look at IT and you like IT works, like the physics work, everything mess out and you come up to and you said this got feeling like it's sometimes is not right.

You had that ah yeah yeah if you often actually for everything we believe that are not for whatever .

reason you're gut is usually right and whether you you manifest that. So I hit this jump as fast as the bike would go, just tapped out fifty year on a two fifty two stroke. And I hit IT in my lace collapse going up and I was the funniest thing because I was in the air and i'm freaking him out. I'm going over two hundred feet up the hill, over two bar bar offences .

yeah actually I know exactly the hill.

I'm going over the bars and i'm like, I have to get off, but i'm going seventy miles hour and i'm thirty feet off the ground. Them like this, this sex. So I jump off and I had this feeling for a split second and I was like, everything kind of slow down for me, and I giggled, and I was like, this is critical.

Why into the year? And then I hurt really blow my need and pretty much room my racing career. But because of that jump, and it's seem like the worst thing ever at the time and even my dad was upset, he's like, do you committed to racing? Just like what the hell you do in? And IT allowed me to then take a step back from racing, get into car racing.

And IT IT changed my life where I can still be driving events. Now was I insight? That was pretty good, but at the time .

that was pretty defy so much .

in the feeling of .

going flying seventy miles in our justice as you're going up into a .

hill that but yeah but it's just like i've just never had that .

before where you had time to like .

be panic doesn't think what was .

that early two thousands you're on a one twenty five in your case bad to be .

more specific.

They ever see, oh yeah, yeah, they can.

What year was that? So that was ninety eight. Actually, my pro contract in the fifteen th birthday. I send my pro contract for suzuki in in a wheelchair at at that point. So I got a question for you guys. Have you ever woken up and you think you're dreaming, but you hear and you're wondering what who's making that sound and you just like, I want to keep you making that got no and you can breathing. God, it's stopping when you when you're stop yeah anyway so yeah no.

it's fine that you bring up the concussion thing like i've had like kind of a weird string very much for the last decade like i've just a lot of concussions and like it's just tougher for me now like small thing things can like and make IT almost feel that way. I often times think about like, like, feel like I have a concussion even though I don't. And IT goes away after like a day or two or sometimes a week, sometimes takes month. My question you is like, how do you like if you have a do you have even a protocol after you knock yourself out? Or or if you do something and and does IT ever, you know, you give yourself symptoms?

Interesting thing about concussions is had a great opportunity to go down to some of the top military, the boot campaign, and they invited three of the natural circus. You just to actually kind of do more data and more testing IT would not generally on a dirt bike, you're not as prone like CT and that kind of step because if you hit your head hard enough to have any cushion, you probably something else that's that's keeping you down.

The interesting thing is the doctors down there is a look. If you're in an action sport, if you're in A A context port and you've made IT to a professional level, chances are your previous position to be able to take up a pretty good hit. So IT was interesting that a lot of the top free side motor sers and top racers, our grandfathers were almost all boxers.

My grand, I was going to go box like about genetically or whatever, just seems like the people that are able to make IT long enough to get in there have ancestry of people that like to get in there. Or or maybe that's just the next step. I I don't only know what's interesting talking.

The doctor was like, I can have someone that is not that call for fifty minutes and I would do do the test, whatever, but I would put them right back in and they're fine. Any of some people that don't even get knocked out that because they could never come back to doing so as so each head injury unique. And they have protocols in there to generally help because no athletes ever going to say, oh, i'm not well, they're going to lie and they are going to get back out there.

And the protocol is a general, but the only person that really knows if you're OK to get back out there is the person that that had the head entry. Y and sometimes you could have no real concussion. And I was showing up for three months and I didn't even get knocked up. Sometimes emotions are are different.

Like one of my bodies, he was like his mommy said something yellow s mom said, well, which like and then you start crying ying and here like, well, yes, why am I crying? Like, what is going on? So definitely something that knowing more about is is good, because even the people around you kind of have to understand that you have to take IT easy during this time, give you your head in the same spot twice before heels.

It's problem. It's kind of what happens you I mean, there's like two injuries, short succession .

yeah similar but i'm i'm doing a lot Better now. So but I you just can bring you up. I i've always thought of you whenever, like, I would be gone through those times. I like, man, how is he like, okay, you know, and you just like an instance. No, I mean, you are like, you're just like you're you're thriving and I was just like, man like I mean, it's just inspiration, quite Frankly.

that i'll be OK. It's it's a tough one. It's pride the hardest because it's not like a bone is six weeks pinin played you're back on but head is is something that and no one really else can understand, which you go on to. So it's it's a tough but yeah.

yeah no events cry.

Do I don't listen? Sweating this door, you can sweat in my eyes.

You do, you do like you're going. It's okay.

He runs hot. He runs hot and you were sweating after .

the .

plane last night no whisky, no dark later so travis, one of our biggest idles grown up you know with someone like you, someone like robbie deck but also can block and you know we are such big can block fans um when is passing um IT was just devastating for know everyone in the action sports world i'm just curious as someone that was close with him, what you thought his impact on the action sports world was and how prevalent IT is now that .

he's gone a tough question of very long when the answer needed for IT. But in general, you had a business man that loved to ride motorcycles, that loved to drive, that love to snowboard, and after he was able to sell dc shoes and then still run IT, he was able to build the sport of rally.

And when no one, everyone was like, you can you going to do a gym kind of video? Like what what are you doing? And he's like, i'm just going to go have fun in my my car.

And just because he could and because he knew the business stuff, like he shut down the golden gate bridge just to see if he could do IT to do donuts on IT. He shut down the one of one ten intersection because it's the busiest intersection in the world. His mind works very differently.

Then, like I was all about let's go drive and have fun. He was like, what can I do that no one else can do, and how can I? I do IT Better than I ever been done before.

He was thinking, two, three years out. I'm thinking, like, two, three hours out. If I ever had an idea, I would run up by can, and he was the first one to be like that.

stupid. You know what? I, that's great, but let's do IT right. But yes, so he was personally lost. I think a lot of people lost that, like he was just the guy that that I went to whenever there was was anything in life for anything that he was just a just a solid human being, great family man, you know, great businessman, amazing driver. He was one that was able to really take whatever he did and and turn IT to gold.

And not just that he took the people around him, like, for example, in rally, he took everyone in the U. S. Champions and made us all heroes so that when he beat us, he could be beating smart about what he did.

It's so cool. I mean, he was, yes, such an impact on so many different industries. Honestly, how caused IT to be able to do a gym corner?

So i've been bugging can for for the longest time like I that I could do that you know like everyone yeah and he's OK. We're going to the final scene for jim, kind of ten like sweet, he didn't little, he didn't tell me, so he brings me out there and they couldn't start the motor. Ch was like ten thousand dollars to start this study thing, so they didn't bring the engineer out to do IT.

So i'm pushing the car. So like, you brought me out here to push your car so that you could, like, stop in the last scene and him driving, but they could not. So he's prety funny, but he's like, all right now get in like what is like, get in this shot that we're doing is you getting in the car and you're going to pretend that you're stealing IT and you're going to start the next time kind of and I was so excited, like a forgotten muster, and I flied by my small.

But now what's interesting about that, as he was currently selling hoon again now, he needed to prove that without can block, jim corner could continue doing what jim corner does. And you based economies like we need twenty million views on this on this video. That's not me because the only thing that i'm going to says that has to be an epic built because I don't care what wantage whatever IT has been.

Epic build has been epic location and you can't do too much of this nitro circus flying bs. He's like you can have a couple jumps got to be cool but he goes, I want proximities to near death situations I want this to be a jim cana with your flair is like goal and he was IT was the second highest like viewed jim ka, which was an awesome. But IT was king as a business man and as a friend to be like, I am going to give you this opportunity because you have talked so much crap and at the end of the first day of filming, like x was doing donuts, the car called on fire.

It's late that we had. We had rain come in and supposed to be focused at the time we had copied. That was our last.

Like we had three days to shoot this, and we had day behind after day one. And I called him, almost crying, and he goes, all right, that's all I want IT. And no matter how this does, you calling me in tears as read my entirely.

So that was the .

florida.

Was that the one where you jumped out like one super fast over like like a hill in the road .

above of the power lines?

Yeah, we figured that out with a project al calculator. But the downforce on that suburb was like, I took off at one hundred and forty, which I thought was like, at least five, ten miles. Very fashion. I needed to go. I was in the hand of got .

terms .

like .

really had a had a twenty eight g impact. I was like seeing stars yeah and that speed .

on a two lane road in the had you've been .

driven and over that road like yes, your entire life and you were like, I wonder how .

I thought I could make IT. So IT was, the world record is two, six, two hundred fifty nine feet. So that was about two fifty to the the lip.

And I was like, you can go three fifty on this because you was going to keep falling down the self. And no kidding, because I had like A A mp in the road a week before we went. They repaved IT. no. So I was like, you didn't tell him, like they didn't .

know what you were doing from the time we .

scouted this road. I like, do I know? Like I write a roadblock, this, like when I was actually in shape.

And but I, like I wrote over this everyday thinking, man, you could probably hit this thing if you had a really fast car and make this single table up. And i've flamed out. So we had to do, we had to fake IT or not fake IT. We had to build like a little little kick at the top.

Last question to ring IT out. Really quick one. I don't know if you can even answer IT, but out of all of the super u body styles, which one do you think is the best good looking? Because we're all super u guys like we grew up. Just think in the S T eyes were the sick car on the street.

to be honest, like when I think of a suba, I said and might not have been like the best looking body, but the five, five, five world rally car from mcrae's error, like the ninety five kind of era, the group era was was amazing. But yeah, kind of that that two thousand three SCI was was definitely my favorite.

My favorite is probably like the old six, like the hawk. I just, I don't know that's just what I like when I was K, D, C, that driving street, like my luck, you know and they just looked awesome. But our cameras are over. Our cameras over.

Appreciate your time today. yeah.

Thank you so much. This is like check in off. A big goal to have you on here. Like IT almost seemed unattainable.

Let's get you guys to the house. I'd love to learn from you. whatever. Like even just film star like we filming, we were just overproducing self. And the stuff that done the best of just phones, I love to see how you guys next time we hang out.

hopefully at a pastrana land.

Thanks guys.

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