Why Ken Says No
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All right. Let's go. Well, welcome back to Life Wide Open with C-Boys TV. Currently the number one business podcast on Spotify. I don't know how that happened. I think maybe it was just kind of like a fluke little... Like we had gained so much followers in such a short amount of time. They're like, man, people really like this, you know?

But, like, how does that happen? I don't know. It might still be at the top of the charts. It's not. It's number two. Oh, it is? It was number two yesterday. It might be lower now. We're probably at 100 now. But, anyways, thanks for that, guys. We appreciate it. We appreciate all you guys. We've had so many random people coming up to us that we just didn't know even watched anything. And they were like, we didn't listen to your podcast. It's crazy.

It's like older guys or like even women. Older women? That you would just assume they don't know who we are. Yeah. Like Rob approached me at Zorba's yesterday actually and was telling me how much he loved listening to it. Yeah. Are you talking about your dad? Rob the plug. Oh, yeah.

Wait, you think Ken's dad's name is Rob? Well, his real name is Robert, so they call him Bob. That's true. Oh, that's true. I was like, and Ken is the type of guy to call his father by his legal name. I've never heard you call my dad that, though. Well, yeah, of course not. I call him Bob, but I wouldn't be surprised if you started calling him anyways. I'm pretty sure his name in your phone is literally Bob.

It's not dad. Pull your phone out right now. It's Bob Workphone. Pull this shit out right now. Yeah, it is. It is. It's Bob? It is. See? See? So it's not that far off. But yeah, our good buddy Rob. Is there anyone else out there that has their parents and their phone as their first names? No. Yeah, it's me. Only Ken. I think it's like if you work with them. Because I have a couple friends that work with their dad and they call him by their name, I guess, at work. I suppose at work, yeah. Because then it's a little more professional. Hey, dad.

Ken, you used to work with your dad. Is that why? Your daddy? No. You probably get a little bit more respect in the workplace. You didn't work with Bob? I did. Oh. Worked for him. Yeah. Yeah, CJ put him in his place. Worked for him, yeah. He didn't work with him. We skipped over this real quick, but congrats to Cody Bell on winning the AirPod Pro giveaway. We got to get this channel to 1 million subscribers because YouTube gypped us out of our gold play button for C-Boys TV when we hit 1 million subs. I don't know why, but apparently our channel does not fit...

their criteria and they won't send us a play button. What did they say? It violates community guidelines? No, they just said we don't fit their community guidelines. No, no, no, no, no. They said we didn't have original content. Oh, that's what it was. And then we asked why and they're just the typical like corporate thing. They're just like, I'm not really. Yeah, they were just like, I don't know.

You can try back again. So we can try in 90 days. And I think it's been 90 days. But something tells me they're just going to say no again. The only other YouTuber I've ever seen that happen to was SteveWillDoIt. I don't know if he ever got it, but they said something similar to it. But I'm sure it was more along the lines of not following their community guidelines. And I can understand on his side of things. That makes sense. Yeah, I mean, that makes sense. For us, it does not. Honestly, it pisses me off. I know it pisses all you guys off. Like, dude.

What? We earn, like, something that not a lot of people do, and then they're just like, yeah, you don't get the, you know, the plaque. I don't know. I think we're getting ripped off, but hopefully we can get to the bottom of that. But anyways, Ken, you're kind of on the hot seat today. I heard. There's... You're just...

How do I say this? You're so fucking interesting. And you're mysterious. You are so mysterious. Okay. In what ways? I've been your, I would say, best friend for eight years. One of them. One of the best friends, despite what you guys see on the videos. Dude, I think I know equally about as much as I did back when I first met you.

Okay. We know what we observe from you, but we don't ever figure anything more out than we knew last year or the year before that. Are you aware of that? Is that kind of your thing? Do you go about your life in a mysterious way where you're like, no, this is like me. I like people not knowing me or understanding what I'm about. I mean, what are you trying to figure out? I don't know, actually. Why are you the way you are?

You were just born this way. It's just the way things are. All right. Well, anyways, I have tons of questions. The viewers definitely have tons of questions. We got a ton of them written down. I don't know if we want to get into that right now. We'll probably get into that later.

But, Ken, why don't you kind of tell the viewers what your role is behind the camera around here within the company? So I'm, like, in charge of the merchandise, so making sure it's coming in, getting out, all the customer service, any emails that get sent to me, I usually am the one that responds. Ken is, like, our sole customer service. Sometimes Mike, I think, sends some stuff, and I'm always like, Micah, why did you say that?

Wait, what? I just love, yeah, like, I'm picturing myself answering, like, two emails just to, you know, take a load off Ken's back, and he just notices right away and goes, wow, whatever he said. Wait, like, what he said didn't fit the, do you have, like, a formula of what you respond or what you mean? I can see why you would think that. I got to take care of stuff, and usually it's like if someone's asking something, I need to take care of it, and then he just does it, and then I'm. . .

I take care of it. I would love a good example of this if this ever comes up because I just don't believe that happens. Do you feel it gets done wrong or unprofessionally? You know, it's like it sends the typical smiley face at the end of it. Bro. Have to, have to. You send smiley faces in emails to customers? For customer service? Every email I send is a smiley face. This dude hasn't changed. Are you serious? No, I wouldn't. I would say I'm sure I peppered one in there. There's a few that I've seen go out that are in there.

I haven't answered a customer service email in a couple months, so I don't know. When I look at the map of Seaboys TV over the past four or five years, you really started out as the villain.

Like, you were easily the most hated C-boy by far. People were furious because you would just, you do your thing where you say no. Yeah. Just recently, in the last six months to a year, I'd say, the tides have turned. And I think you might be one of the most...

Probably one of the top C-Boys, one of the top characters. Everyone really loves you now, and I think they really appreciate you when you say no. I'm glad. When I think of your path of C-Boys TV, how it started, and how you were as a character back then versus how you were now, I would say you started out very authentic. You were that no man. You were the guy that... You were being yourself. Yeah, you were being your truest form, right? And then I think that...

You started reading the comments and you didn't like being that villain because no one likes to get shit on. Everyone hates that. Yeah, exactly. So I don't blame you one bit for that. And people used to be extremely hard on you for that. But what people don't realize is...

Every group needs someone like that guy. Cause imagine if we were all just like, yeah, send it, do this, do this. It wouldn't be entertaining for you guys to watch because there would be absolutely no diversity in the group. So having you as that character back then, I think was very, very crucial to the early stages of C boys. But over time, as those comments, I think started to wear on you,

You changed and you started becoming that yes man. You started saying yes. Yeah, you wanted to almost be like that more like likable character and like down to do things and like fuck yeah, send it. Like doing shit like that, right? Or play too much? I mean, you didn't talk about it, but it seemed like you were trying to be that. A little bit. You were trying to just give them what they want. It depends on the situation though. There's some things where it's like,

It's not like doing a wheelie. I'm not going to be able to do a wheelie. No, no, no, no. I don't think anyone expects you necessarily to do it. But like, you know, before when we would ask you, you weren't even down to even fancy the idea, which was so entertaining for the camera. Cause then it was like, well, somebody else is going to step up. The only thing Ken's doing on a dirt bike is riding into a tree. Yeah. It was probably right around the time actually that you, that you kind of, he went back to his old ways maybe a little bit, but then, okay. So let me carry on on this thought process. So,

So very authentic. Then you didn't want to be that villain character, as CJ was saying. And then after it seemed like a year of doing that, you almost went back to your roots of like being authentic, which I would say would be the last nine months to six months. And now you're like the truest form of yourself, which is like...

The best on camera. You're back to the no can do. You're back to the fucking with me and getting actually riled up. What you guys see when me and Ken are messing with each other on the dock at Justin's bachelor party. That was real. We weren't even planning on using that. That was so real. Ryan was so mad at us because we were making such a scene. Ryan was pissed that whole weekend. No, he wasn't. Part of it. And I think that you are back to that

That Ken that people almost hated on in the beginning, but now I think they understand. That was you knowing how to push my buttons and pushing them so hard that you know you're going to get this kind of response from me. Look at Jamie. Such great service. This guy. There's something to be said there. Obviously, as entertainers, we have to do this or want to do this at least to get something out of it, but pushing your buttons is one of Ben's best things.

He loves doing it. Hobbies, honestly, at this point. I do love it. The camera comes out and Ben's just like, I'm going to push this so hard. I'd be lying if I said I didn't love pushing your buttons, but I know that there's a very fine line in the sand of taking it too far, which I think at moments I do take it too far. And I watched the footage back,

And I hate myself for it because I don't want to. Good. No, I don't want to be a bully. I don't want to be a bully. Because, like, I know kids watching our videos probably get bullied in school. And I used to, like, I used to get bullied back in. Yeah, you don't want to be a bully. I was, like, in elementary school. I never want to set that example that that's okay. But I think there's a very fine line of being a bully and being an entertainer of just, like, messing with Ken. Because, like, at the end of the day, we are best friends. And it's for entertainment. It also is fun.

And we all talk shit to each other. We razz each other up. Yeah, we do it to everybody. We're pretty tough on everybody around here, I would say. You fuck up around here, you're going to get made fun of, basically. You know what I'm saying, though, Ken? On the trajectory of your character, do you feel that way? I feel, yeah. Because you've never said that. I can feel...

I never really consciously thought of it that way. But, you know, taking a step back and looking at it. You've blossomed, though. You've blossomed into this character. And I've said it for years, though. Like, a lot of people... Like, I'll read comments. They're like, you need to kick Ken out of C-Boys. I'm like, you kidding me? He's, like, the best guy. Without Ken, like, you add so much to the videos. You've always been the one to say that. I've said it for years. Ken is the most important guy. Because it is...

Any of us can go rip wheelies or whatever, but Ken truly plays his character because he is just being himself the best, and it'd be very hard to replace Ken, which I would never want to do. Obviously, I don't want to replace anyone. They're our friends. Hopefully, this doesn't make you want a pay raise or nothing. Don't let this go to your head, Ken. It's like a sweet, sweet treat when Ken does do something.

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I have fully done things around the home that I think look good and then a bang in the night and I wake up to a shelf collapsing, a painting falling off the wall. Like it, I've seen it all go south. I own a home and I can tell you, I know how much work it can take. Whether it's everyday maintenance and repairs or making dream projects a reality, it can be hard just to know where to start. But now all you need to do is Angie that and find a skilled local pro who will deliver the quality and expertise you need.

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From plumbing to electrical, roof repair to deck upgrades. So leave it to the pros who will get your jobs done well. Hire high-quality certified pros at Angie.com. No. And it's not, you don't say no 100% of the time. So when you do do something, we get hyped up and I know you guys do too. Like, it's so great. There's certain things that... Yes, yes, Ken, do it. There's certain things that are just off limits to don't even ask Ken to do it. Like surfing. Don't even ask.

Don't even try. No way. I don't know why. What's up with your, you don't like surfing? You used to do it all the time. Yeah, I just moved on from it.

I'm fine now. Ken's changed, man. He's evolved. God damn. I have so many things I want to ask you. I don't know where to like really start. So we'll just kind of keep it broad here. How's life been? How's life been right now? Good. It's good? We all just bought that house. You're feeling good about that? It's nice. You're liking it? Finally buying an appreciating asset, not a...

It's a money pit. Must be nice. I feel like we don't really see each other in the house very much at all. I mean, realistically, we get up at... Well, us two get up at early. We get to the shop at 9. Before 9.30. And then we get home at...

10, sometimes later. So it's like we just kind of go to bed. We sleep there. We leave. It's no different than living elsewhere. It's just now I own it. A lot of people will be like, so how is that? They'll be like, oh, you have roommates? How is that? You guys drive each other crazy? I'm like, dude, I don't even fucking see them. It's a pretty big house, so we're lucky to be on different corners. But I already spend all day with you guys. One thing, Mike, your alarm clock.

He's loud as shit. He needs that though. He needs that though. He's got the bed vibrator underneath it. Does that bend you? Yeah, it's great, dude. It's great. It's like it actually works. It works. I do like that. You need that though. I wake up to that thing and it's just like... I

I tip my hat to you guys being able to work together all day and then go home and live together. We don't see each other. That's my point. That's true. Yeah. That's true. We don't see each other. I go to my corner. CJ goes to his. Yeah, literally everyone's got their corner. Micah goes underneath the stairs to his bedroom, his Harry Potter bedroom. It's not that bad.

You always make me feel like it's so bad this time. You get so mad when I do because you know it's true. You got so lucky with the master suite, and your closet's bigger than Micah's room, and you get mad when I say it because you know it's true. That's the sad part is that I don't give a shit how big CJ's room is, but his closet and bathroom are bigger than my bedroom. He's got like four closets. Oh, man.

It's two. We got to do something. It's two sides. It's a terrible floor plan for a closet, but it's gigantic. It is fucking big in there, dude. Dude, CJ always shuts me down so fast when I start talking about Mike's room. Well, I don't want you making Mike feel bad about it. I don't think he feels bad. For me, it's like an itty-what-it-is sort of thing. It is what it is. We'll do a little remodeling. We'll make it bigger. No, yeah, we're going to do something about that, though. We're going to knock that wall out and make your room bigger. Yeah, dude, I know how to use a hammer. Get to work, Mike. Ken.

Did you ever see yourself being like a YouTuber or like an internet personality? You definitely were. I would say you seems like you were thrown into this life partially. Pre-college, no. Because C-Boys didn't start until like... He's like, after it started, I felt like I might be. C-Boys didn't start until I was well into college. Yeah. You know, so I was what, 25?

22 at that point. Dude, that's crazy to think that you were older when we started. You were as old as Ben when we started making videos. Yeah. First videos. This lucky motherfucker. I am so... 22. Dude, I'm so lucky to be as young as I am. Just to drive around his brand new Corvette. It's like going into it, when we filmed that first slip and slide video, I never expected that much.

you know, that moment to bring us to where we're at. Yeah. Okay. So, uh, how about like if we're, if we're not filming and we're all busy, what are you, what are you doing on your average day? Let's say you couldn't hang out with us. You couldn't hang out with us and you had to go and kind of hang out with your second crew, you know?

What would you do? Or would you just hang by yourself? What would you do? Zorba's, you know, see what's up. Have a couple of drinks. Talk to Ben. Yeah. Did I not say that? Go and drink with BJ. And we're not even saying that like you're predictable. That's just, that was our guess. Honestly, I'd probably do the same thing. Yeah. If you guys were all busy and I didn't have anything else to do. Why is it that you love drinking so much, Ken?

I mean, I don't think it's any more than anyone else. Ken, you love drinking. I saw you smash that ice right before... Actually, right as we were filming. He's like, you made me. I mean, you're going to give me shit if I don't smash it. There's no winning. You're going to give me shit for smashing it. I'm just joking, Ken. I mean...

Well, there's another thing to say. I was like, maybe to answer Ken's question, not necessarily for him, is like, there's nothing to do around here in the winter, that is. Fargo, North Dakota is like the number one drinking city in the United States or one of the tops. Which is 43 minutes from us. Yeah, so it's like, there's that. It's just kind of part of... Once the lake freezes over, I mean, there's...

Quite literally nothing to do. Ken, but you're drinking all day here, too, in the summer. All of us are. I mean, all of us are. You're not just going to point this on me. You're right. That's a dumb question. No, in the summer you do because it's fun. In the winter you do because you're bored. There's nothing else to do. You do drink a lot, but I wouldn't say I've ever seen you get out of hand drunk. Micah.

I've seen you get out of hand drunk multiple times in the last week. Ken, on the other hand, dude, very rarely. There was one, what, two weeks ago that you had to get driven home a couple nights a week? Okay, Ken. Well, of course you got driven home. You're not supposed to drink and drive.

I'm like, I'm pretty proud of myself for that. But I thought you were going to talk about having to, like, carry me out on a holiday. Whenever I get really drunk, Ken just takes it upon himself. He's like, Mike needs to be saved. He needs to be saved. I'm going to carry him, and I'm just like, uh. Is he really saving you, though? Yeah, I'm just like, are you really doing anything? Because he's banging you around. He's so aggressive with you. At that point, we've been trying to leave for, like, 45 minutes, and here you are just sitting, like, just...

standing there being a rag doll and was like, okay, I don't have an option but to just drag you out of the ball. What about Ryan's point on the 4th?

Somebody was super hammered. They were throwing up. And then Ken goes, you need to go to bed. You need to go to bed. Like, they're barely able to stand up. I think they probably just got done throwing up. I think it was Jake. And he put him in a hot truck. And Ken opens up the door to the closest truck and quite literally throws him in there. And, like, the door wasn't closing. So he's stuck.

He's slamming it until it closes. It was Jake and it was his truck. Because his feet were stuck in the door. It's all coming from a good spot in his heart, but I think he does more damage than good when he starts trying to help out someone. Oh, that's great. Because he's also kind of inebriated. Do you think we take the pleasure of drinking away, being that we make you do it so unwillingly so often? Oh, shut the fuck up. This dude is drinking that White Claw. Ken, we do not make you drink. You feel like we make you drink?

Well, when Ben forces two six-packs of ice down my throat over a day. Ken. Yes, that is not fun. That's just a game. It's so easy, and it's fun, and it's... Yeah, that's not fun. There gets to be a point where it's just too much, though. Dude.

Can I possibly give you some advice here? And this would be advice for everyone watching or just the people that maybe feel like they get picked on constantly or whatever by their friends. So you're getting picked on by this ice thing. It has become a thing now that to ice can. Why do you think that it has become such a thing? I think it's because you know I'm going to get this kind of response out of you. Exactly. So why do you give that response every time? That's why it has now become a thing like,

they don't even consider wasting ice on me because I like it. I'm going to just down it. It's kind of like, oh, and I know I give a great reaction. I know if I ice Ben, there's a 50, 50 chance whether he's going to take it or not. This dude will put an ice in my, the driver's seat of my car.

on a tuesday night and i get done editing or working or doing something i just want to go home nobody's here drive you can't drink one yeah yeah yeah yeah nobody's there to be like gotcha and ken just does it right before i'm driving home like bro there's an art to it you know how about when we were putting the sherpen like and i threw it on your seats just gotta admit that when you were hung over that one that was a low point yeah i can't kind of a capper

That was bad. But that was... You're taking the worst example from me, and I'm taking the best example from you. Wow. But that is... It's the reaction that you give. Exactly. That's the moral. Dude, earlier today, I don't know where you guys got this, literally, but I do not eat steak. I don't eat steak with ketchup. I don't put ketchup on my steak. And literally, you guys just start texting, and I didn't react because I knew if I reacted, you guys would push it farther. And I just can't have people thinking I eat...

Ketchup with my steak. Wait, do you eat ketchup with or steak with your ketchup? Where did this come from? Who started this morning at like seven 30? He goes, Mikey eats ketchup. I wasn't that surprised though. Cause you're, I mean, you're a hot dog guy.

Eat little kid food. But also, is it... Yeah, I put ketchup on my hot dogs. Well, yeah, but I mean... Also, I don't eat hot dogs. Glizzies only. Okay. I don't know if it's that weird to put ketchup on your steak, though. It's probably weird, but I don't think it's like serial killer characteristic. It is weird. Like pouring the milk in before you put the cereal. Yeah. Yeah.

Weird that I just used the word cereal, but spelt differently in a sentence. Wow, that was actually super impressive. Yeah, but I mean...

Long story short, if you give a good reaction, like that's, that's the, the moral of getting like picked on. Right. Yeah. A hundred percent. If in, hopefully you keep giving good reactions, Ken, I don't know if you even are programmed to not react that way. So I don't think you could change it if you wanted to, but for those of you at home, if you're a kid or an adult and you feel like you get targeted a lot, maybe you should look at the way you react after someone cracks a joke to you. Very, very true. Um,

Every friend group has that kid, though. With that being said, though, Ken, do you ever feel like the videos misconstrue you? Do you feel like you have been painted as this character? And would you like to say anything to the viewers? Maybe anything you want to get off your chest and let them know about you?

That gets lost in the edits? Yeah. Or lost in the filming? Like a lot of people come up to you and maybe they have the wrong idea of you. Would you like to say anything? Clear the air? Take your time. Just let them think. I'm trying to think of something. Let them think. I'm sorry. Shut up. Everyone shut up.

It's like everyone that comes up to me always says like, oh, just literally they say no can do and then just walk away. So many people. If that's the only thing you get from me, it's just like, come on. Okay, how about this? How about this? I'll pepper some things in and maybe you can run with it. The tree.

I think that's going to die. I hear that all the time. Whenever somebody stops by the shop, they always go, that's Ken's tree. It's actually labeled on Google Maps, Ken's tree. They did. Somebody did post that. How do you even do that? Most of the time, I get in and rename them and just delete them.

but this one's this one's stuck i can't get this it's so funny because when we ride in ken's tesla ken's tesla uses those maps or whatever and it literally as you roll past the tree it says seaboy shop and then it says ken's tree it like has that specific tree label which is amazing only the tree shows up now anyways yeah that's that's interesting so you don't feel like like there's anything you'd like to get off your chest

I'm sure if I thought of something. Okay. Do you feel like you're ornery or mad often? I don't think so. I think you're very laid back. It's literally just when Ben makes me so pissed off I can't even stand looking at him. What?

Other than that. Steam rolling out his ears. I'm just happy that you called me Ben. What does he know you call me? Glasses are right in front of you. You've called me Cheddar for the past month. It's like, dude, I almost thought for a while that you forgot what my name was. Last night, just so quick, I said something to Ken. I think I was putting mints in Ken's pocket. I got this game whenever we go out to dinner.

You know, like the little mint patty thing? Andy's Mints. Andy's Mints. I'll grab like a handful of them and then throughout the night, I'll put them in his pocket. And it's like a game for me to see how many I can put in his pocket until he notices. It's so funny when he gets in his pocket. You got three in there last night. I had three in there. Ken was thoroughly surprised. And I can't go. He just looks at me so quick and goes, Cheddar! Cheddar!

Chill. We should do that at a retail store. Put stuff in his pocket and then see if he'll leave. See if the little beepers will go off. Then they arrest you for stealing. I swear I didn't know it was in there. Yeah, that's what everyone says. Being that we're speaking of names, can we bring it up? Are we doing this? Would you feel comfortable? I think it's been going on this long.

I don't know. We can go either way. Do you want to come clean? You don't want to, do you? You don't want to, do you? You've been hiding behind this identity. I think we can just leave it. Ken might have another life after Seaboys where people won't be able to look him up and find him if he decides to live something normal after all this.

They won't be able to search his name after a job application. Let's just... We can say it, but maybe bleep it out. Ken, you actually don't want people to know what your real name is? It just gets so many comments, though. It's like... That's what we want. You don't care about that, though. I'm always so intrigued to find out the people that know Ken's real name. I'm like, oh, you knew Ken before...

Before it all. Before it all. Because before C-Boys, Ken was Ken. That's what... Yeah, today Slick Rick walks in and goes, Dude, this is so funny. Our buddy Slick Rick walks in today and he goes...

You know, I got to say, I just feel weird calling you Ken. Is it okay if I call you by your real name? Actually, he asked permission to call me by his real name. And then he said that he used to read books to Ken when he was in first grade. He was his reading buddy. And he's like, do you remember that? And Ken's like, no. Of course, Ken, you don't remember what you ate for breakfast. I do. Okay, anyways. When people come up and they'll call Ken by his real name, Blank, they'll be like, oh, I just saw Blank today. I'm like...

Who? So, Ken, I think that this is the title of the podcast. I'm going to be honest. You got to give it's time. All right. Let it out. You're going to feel good. It's going to be a weight off your shoulders. All right. Take your time. I'm not going to lie. It's a terrible name. I didn't even know.

Jesus, CJ. You're such an asshole. Now we're not going to say it. Ken. Ken. Say it. Say it. Say it. Say it. All I have to say is this is such a buildup that people at home listening right now are just like, stop. Everything they're doing. I got a proposal for you. It's going to be so anticlimactic. If you let this, let your name out.

I will pay for the legal fees to change your name legally to Ken. If you want. If you decide to. I know how much of a pain in the ass that is. No, I don't think it is. I don't think it is. We'll do the work. We'll do the work. You've considered it? It's that bad of a name, you guys. Jesus, CJ. You're a fucking asshole.

I'm sorry, bro. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I don't know why your parents would name you this. What are you going to say to my mom the next time you see her? I'm going to ask her, hey, did you see the podcast? She's going to say no. Elon Musk named his kids a serial number, and that's better than this name. Hey, everyone. It's me, Drew Off Wallow, host of the Comment Section Show.

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That caught me so off guard. Holy shit. It feels like you just shot me. He kind of looks over and goes, I don't know. It's Grant. That's right, you guys. Grant. Grant. Okay, CJ. Does he look like a Grant? I was, honestly, Grant's not a bad name. I was just kind of hyping it up. No, that was funny. That was funny. I was like, it's really not that bad of a name, but I love where CJ's going with this. My mom's just going to sneak over here one day, and she's going to start choking you out or something. She's going to.

She's going to send the dog after you. Yeah. Yeah, Ken, she's going to sneak in the back door and choke CJ out when he's not looking.

You guys come in. She's got me in a full fucking chokehold. I have to pull you off? I'm purple. This is going to be so much funnier if you guys knew who Ken's mom was. She's going to get me like Abraham Lincoln. All right. Yeah, no, no, no. No. Well, he got shot from behind. I don't know if you can say that, man. What do you mean? All right, Ken. Ken. Grant. Are you worried?

Who's Grant? It's out now. Every time that happens, you're out to eat somewhere. Everyone's like, oh, hey, Grant. And we go, who's Grant? Grant Matthews. It's the one bartender at the inn. She always makes a point to call me Grant. I think she just calls everyone by their name, guys.

She probably doesn't know you as Ken. She just looks at your ID or your credit card. Ken's all the way across the restaurant. She walks over, looks him dead in the eyes and goes, Grant. She does go out of her way to call you Grant. How are you reacting when she calls you Grant? Because this might go back to the reaction. She's so angry.

Do the pleasantries at a bar for a server. Pleasantries, baby. Ken, are you giving any of the servers pleasantries in the area? No. All right. Don't worry. We can't be saying this. I actually didn't mean to segue like that. We're going that way, though. We're not going to talk about that, though. Pleasantries. I'm sure it wasn't pleasantries. Mike has been handing them out left and right. Yeah, Mike, can we talk about this? You've been...

You've been kind of a chick magnet lately. It's because we got the house. What the fuck? Okay, so that is what changed. I was going to ask you, what the fuck changed? I never, ever had girls over to the shop, ever. Mike is a fucking magnet walking around. But I don't know. Do you want to talk anymore on that? No. Probably not. Leave it there.

We'll keep that maybe for another time, another story. Ken or Grant, I've never probably called you Grant. I don't think you have. I'd rather we don't, but it's... I can't, but I think we need to get to the bottom of why we call you Grant. The story, I mean, why we call you Ken. Wow. I remember it like it was yesterday. No, I'm getting all fucked up. You're really fucking up today. I loved that people thought that we were calling you Jamie. Jamie was your real name.

Like, that's how we let it slip. The reason why we were calling him Jamie was because Joe Rogan's guy behind the camera that runs all the audio and cameras and shit is named Jamie. And he's, like, really good. And Joe Rogan's like, Jamie, Jamie, bring it up. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

First podcast. I didn't know that, and I was kind of getting annoyed by it a little bit. Actually, you didn't? No. I didn't. You thought we were just calling you Jamie for nothing? Yeah, I did. What the fuck? How confused were you? I was extremely confused. I don't listen to Rogan that frequently, so I don't pick up on it that often. Okay. Dude. That's funny. That is hilarious. Where the fuck did you pull Jamie from? Such a random name. But anyways.

I feel like maybe I should tell the story on why you got the name Ken or would you like to, Ken? You can probably do it better. I would leave out a few details. What? We weren't even doing anything. Okay, so... Wait, what? I don't know what there is to leave out. I don't know. That pasta is bad. I always tell stories so terribly. I tell stories so terribly. I always gloss over things. I'm like, fuck, I should have said this. All right, so...

The reason why Ken got the nickname Ken, which then became his real name and public identity, is because when Ken first got his license, his parents bought him a Subaru Impreza hatchback, like the lamest fucking car, which for those of you that don't know,

The Subaru Impreza is like the chassis that they build the Subaru WRX STI on. It's the WRX without anything cool. Yeah, so it's like an eco-friendly car. For those of you who don't know what a WRX STI is, it's like a rally car. So like Travis Pastrana drives one in all of his races or in the Jim Conner videos. It's a badass car. Really fast, cool. Ken had the Impreza. Not cool, not cool.

Not fast. Perfect for a 16-year-old kid who just got their license. Yeah, absolutely. But obviously, we saw them and we're like, well, it kind of looks like a WRX. That's pretty cool. It's got all-wheel drive. Let's go test it out. And Ken's the only one with his license. So anyways, we would all pile up in Ken's Subaru, and we just assumed since TP is in his Impreza WRX STI drifting around gravel road corners that Ken should be able to do it. TP? Travis Pastrana. Oh, I was thinking...

No, no, no. Chill. Sorry. Anyways. I'm the one who came up with... I'm the one who called Ken his name because he was drifting like Ken Block. Jesus. Mike, you're skipping. I'm the one who gave him that name. You just skipped to the conclusion. Okay, anyways. So, Ken Block, he drives for... Why are we talking about Travis Estrana? That's not how it came up. No. I'm like, he drifts his Subaru like Ken Block. Mike, you don't know where the story's going. Anyways. I was there. I was there.

I'm getting to the point where we... Hey, CJ, why don't you shut the fuck up? Mike, you tell it. I was getting to that point. So anyways, we would pile up in his Impreza, drift around, and Ken Block was the rally car driver for Subaru at the time. Travis Pastrana also does. I don't know why I was saying Travis Pastrana, just because everyone fucking knows who Travis Pastrana is, and I was also trying not to skip. Yeah. Anyways... Skip what?

I was trying to tell a fucking story, Mike. Why you always got to get in the way? Sorry. Anyways. Sorry. So Ken would fucking do these. He wouldn't want to drift, but we'd be like, come on, come on, come on. So we'd peer pressure the shit out of him. Eventually we'd go down this gravel road and he would rip the fucking e-brake and we would slide this thing sideways. Five deep? It was a death trap. I don't know how we still are alive. Yeah.

But anyways, he would drift around these corners and just... So we started calling him Ken Block because he was like the fucking Kmart version of Ken Block. He had the Impreza and he was drifting it. I know Ryan, he's monkeying with the cameras right now, but you have a great Ken story.

A ridiculous Ken story. Would you care to tell it or would you rather not? Would you like to hop on? Maybe switch places, one of us? Ken is like, all right, I guess I'll hop off then. Ken's settling in. He's leaning back. Ken, do you know what story this is? Was this at Ryan's apartment? No. Boy, do I have stuff to say today. Oh, boy. You mess up one time, you don't talk in the number one business podcast in the USA. You really regret it. Okay, so you know when you're a kid,

And you sneak out. You tell your mom you're going to your buddy's house to go play Xbox. And then you end up just driving around all night. Just got your license. So Jake and I, we went to Walmart. Oh, this story. Oh, yeah. And we bought a nightgown. And we dressed this girl up to look like the, well, from The Ringer, right? Yeah, The Lady in White. The Lady in White, which is our version of The Ring. The Ringer, basically. Yes. Right.

And so we went to Ken's house, snuck in his backyard. What time is it? Like 4 a.m. Oh, my God. It was like 4 a.m. It was way past our bedtime, for sure. And we get to Ken's house, and we sneak around the back, and we knock on his window, and Ken opens the curtain and screams. So we bolt, right? And we're running around, and Ken pops up on the patio of his house and goes,

Get the fuck off my property. The next county overheard it. I've never heard you scream that loud in my life, bro. It was...

It was terrifying. My blood ran cold. My blood ran cold. And then all I see is... And so we just kept running around the yard. So we had to get to Jake's truck, dude, in the front yard. No, no, no. It was your Scion TC. We did. We had the TC. And then all I hear is your little boiler exhaust. Yeah, yeah. So I ran. I was coming around the corner of the garage and you came...

Busting out the front door. You didn't know it was Ryan or Jake. I didn't until I saw the car. Yeah. And I was like, wow, this fucking asshole. So we run you like almost catch us. We get in the car. We almost got to your car. Like it was that mad, huh? What were you going to do? So mad. Wait, what were you going to do? It's a good thing. You didn't catch up. He was blacked out. Ryan might be dead. Ken might be in prison.

But the worst part is, is obviously my parents didn't know that I was out at 4 a.m. I was supposed to be sound asleep at Jake's playing Xbox. But you woke up your entire family and probably the neighborhood with this endeavor. You asked Cody if you could have a gun. Here's my favorite part. Did you know it was Ryan? You want a gun?

I didn't know who the girl was, and I was like... So you were going to shoot her. I don't know. Ken was ready to go to prison. You know when you're hot, Shredder? When you're hot. Yeah, I know. You do things you don't mean. Like grab a gun? You want a gun? So from Cody's version, don't ever wake Ken up from sleeping. Yeah.

Okay, so Cody tells the story really, really funny of him getting woken up by Ken going, where's the gun? And Cody's like, what? And Ken's like, give me the shotgun. And Cody's like, no.

Ken with a gun. So then the next day, I'm sitting here at the shop, actually, washing my car, and Bob comes strolling over. He goes, hey, that was really dangerous. You could have gotten shot. All this stuff. I got in so much trouble for that. How old were you at the time? Probably like 16. 16, 15? Yeah. Well, yeah, 16. If you had your license, I suppose, right? Mm-hmm.

Yeah, dude. It was bad. It goes back to the reaction, Ken. That sounds like a problem you had for your idea. So what? Ken, if you shot him, you'd be in jail right now. Yeah. I don't know. Legendary story to tell. Now I'm like, yeah, one time Ken shot me. What if you were alive? If you got shot, would you press charges?

I wouldn't have. I'd have been like, that's pretty fucking lit. It's trespassing, though. Ken's trying to justify it. He deserved it. Yeah, I shot my best friend when I was 17. If Ryan lived, it would be kind of a baller. He was trespassing on my parents' property. Be a badass story. To be fair, I have tried to kill Ken at least two or three times on accident. Yeah. I rolled the go-kart for one. Yeah, when we were little kids. Yeah, when we were little kids. And then it was our first...

Our first peanut. The first peanut. Like one of the first videos, we had that Cutlass Supreme. You fucking sent that thing like 150 feet. Mm-hmm. Just a flat. Airbags. Airbags at night. Did you have the seatbelts on? Yeah, we had seatbelts. We had helmets on. But Ken's head still went into the windshield. It was the airbag at the windshield. I think my head... Ken was so rattled after that. We still don't know for sure. You guys got to go back and watch that video, actually. I think it's called...

We bought a car and... Yeah, we totaled it. That was one of the dumbest things we've done. That was fun, though. We weren't even doing it for video. We were just doing it. Do you remember that we had to scrape together like $200? We had to borrow money from Justin. Justin loaned me bank. The $45 that we could pay for the car, dude. I don't know why I ever even paid him back. Man, guys. Dude, dude, dude. Dude, dude, dude.

No way. We might have just found a pirate ship, boys. Oh, is it the one in Pelican? We might have just found a pirate ship, boys. On the podcast, the next podcast. Wait, what? Let me see it. Okay, so I just got a text from our buddy Parker Fuller who used to work at Custom Offsets and he goes, listen to the podcast, Sean, old boss from Custom Offsets, built a pirate ship on a pontoon boat.

He was trying to sell it for a while, and I'm pretty sure it's still available. Can we get it up here? Ask him how much and where is it at. Where is it located? We might actually be buying another thing from Custom Offsets very soon. Package deal. Yeah, tell him it's a package deal. Exactly. Wow, that's really weird odds. Not the other Mike. Isn't it amazing you put something out like I want a pirate ship and people show up knocking at the door?

Hello? Hey, dude. Yo, so I just read your text, and we're actually sitting on the podcast filming right now. Oh, no way. What are the odds? What are the odds? But, yeah, we're so stoked. How big is it? Yeah, can I get his number, and we can get some more details on this thing? Can we ship it up here? I just texted him right now because I was like, hey, do you still have that pirate ship you were trying to sell? Because I know some people who need it. He had a legit cabinet maker, woodworking guy. No fucking way. It's going to be expensive.

But it's not like, it's just a pontoon with the thing built around it. So it's not like a legit pirate ship. But I just thought it was hilarious. You guys were like wanting a pirate ship. And I was like, huh, actually, no one. I mean, to be fair, we're not looking for a legit pirate ship. We'll see how much he wants for it. If it's like anything more than 30 grand, I don't know if we'll be able to justify it. Oh, no, it won't be that much. Okay, good. When he's actually back in Espinel, I'll get you the details. Sounds good. Thanks, bro.

Alright, peace. Dude, the pirate ship saga continues.

No way. We might make this happen before the end of the summer. You guys are a part of this journey. This is actually pretty crazy. Really? Only the podcast. The truth. We've really been capturing it. All right, Ken. Anyways, we're just going to wrap it out without you, Ken. We got the hot spot here for Ken. This is the last bit. We got a little, I don't know what we're going to call this segment. Just like a little Q&A. The hot seat. Ken's like, this has been a Q&A the whole time. He's got a bench review for an hour now. Going into this podcast, Ken was extremely nervous. I'm sorry. Ken, this has gone fantastic. I'm going to just ouch you.

And Ken was like, I'm just not good being put on the spot like this. I was like, dude, we're going to make you feel comfortable, Ken. I just know how you bench review people and you just ask them questions. Yeah, it's almost like I want to get to know someone. It's so fucked. All right, yeah, yeah. So we got a couple questions. We put some questions together that we're going to just spit at you. Brian, you want to start that? Whether it's a one-word answer or if you want to elaborate on it. Okay? Got it? All right. So we're going to start out by...

you know, pretty base level. Why do you always say no? Some things just aren't worth doing. You know, sometimes you can just get away with like, hey, I don't want to fuck with this. Okay. All right. Okay. Should we combat? Just accept his answer and go to the next one. Okay. All right. Second one. Why is your screensaver still your Focus RS? I don't have a picture worth changing it to.

Nothing's worth anything. That screensaver's been there for like two years at this point, so I'm just leaving it. All right. Would you... Okay, okay. Okay. All right.

I mean, CJ, I know your screensaver has been that dream board for like six years now. Yeah, Ken, it's because I have dreams and I'm trying to make them happen. And they are slowly happening. It's very different from your ex-car. The car that you don't even own anymore. Thank God you don't have a girlfriend. Otherwise, it'd probably still be you. You'd be one of those guys. All right. Do you ever think you'll shave your beard? No, I look like I'm 12 when I do. Fair enough. Do you plan on living the bachelor life forever? Do you want to settle down?

I could settle down eventually. But not right now? Not now. Are you actively looking? Not actively. Are you... Passively, dude. Passively. Like everything else Ken does. If it falls into his lap, quite literally. So what are some of your favorite hobbies outside of... Working. Working. Can't say drinking. What do you mean? Shut the fuck up. No, I don't...

Relaxing maybe? Cleaning? No. So moral of the story, you seem like a pretty good guy. I mean, this honestly might have been my favorite podcast. Yeah, this is great. We had a good time.

You're amazing, man. Ken, you're a natural, bro. So funny. You went into it so nervous, and if I wouldn't have said that, no one would have known. I hate being the center of attention on things. I love throwing things in there, but I hate being the attacking, bent-your-view person. No, but that was a really real answer. You just said it. I hate being the center of attention. That was probably the best answer you've given, the most honest answer, without your little roundabout...

Whatever. All right. Well, let's end it here. This is great. We're going to keep filming these every Friday. Yep. And go ahead and subscribe. We're going to give away one of the Life Wide Open signs we have right here to a subscriber. Yep. Next week we'll be giving it away. So we're trying to do a giveaway every time. But yeah, subscribe. Let's get to 100K. Thank you guys so much. And follow us on Instagram, Life Wide Open Podcast. Yeah. Ryan, you got to come on the next one.

Why is Ryan the way he is? Comment some questions down below if you guys want to know anything about Ryan. Dude, this just got me so excited because now it's like we got to do this for everyone. Yeah, 100%. No, absolutely. We should do this for everyone, the hot seat. Yeah. All right. I agree. We're hitting it. Thank you guys so much. Peace.

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