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Trump Nearly Blows It in Sham Lawsuit

2025/7/2
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Michael Popok: 特朗普政府几乎错过了对Perkins Coie律师事务所案的上诉截止日期。特朗普政府对Perkins Coie律师事务所采取了报复行动,因为该律所参与了罗伯特·米勒的调查。特朗普试图将该律所列为国家安全风险,并阻止政府部门与其合作,试图通过阻止Perkins Coie在联邦政府面前代表客户,来削减他们一半或更多的年收入。法官Beryl Howell认为,与特朗普和解的其他律师事务所本应寻求司法公正,独立的律师是防止暴政的重要保障。Beryl Howell质疑与特朗普和解的律师事务所是否能真正为客户的利益着想,而不是为了讨好特朗普政府。提起上诉需要提交上诉通知,政府通常有60天的时间。对特朗普政府不利的裁决于5月2日作出,因此他们有时间到7月2日提交上诉通知。特朗普政府尚未寻求紧急救济,但考虑到他们几乎用了60天的时间才提交上诉通知,很难再说这是紧急情况。上诉案件将由一个三人法官小组审理,预计在未来三到九个月内完成简报,口头辩论可能在2026年第二季度进行。特朗普可能会辩称他有权将律师事务所称为国家安全风险,即使没有充分证据。特朗普政府可能会认为Perkins Coie应该为几年前已离职的律师的行为负责,并质疑国家安全风险的证据。Beryl Howell法官强调了律师独立的重要性,并引用了托克维尔和美国国父的观点,他们认为律师是防止国家滑向暴政的重要力量。特朗普之前也曾对类似的人提起诉讼,但被法官认为毫无价值并处以罚款。特朗普担任总统并不能改变之前案件被判为恶意诉讼的事实。一旦确定了法官小组,我将报告他们的背景,虽然法官的任命者不应该影响他们的决策,但了解他们的背景有助于解读他们的肢体语言。希望法官们都能做出正确的决定,但如果其中有特朗普的支持者,结果就很难预料。我预计法院会支持Beryl Howell法官的裁决,特朗普可能会上诉到美国最高法院。最高法院需要四票才能受理上诉,五票才能推翻Beryl Howell法官的裁决。最高法院将在夏季处理一些紧急申请,并在十月的第一个星期一开启新的任期。

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Well, the Trump administration almost missed their deadline. They got 60 days to file a notice of appeal in a case, and they just filed a notice of appeal related to Judge Beryl Howell and her decision that the law firm of Perkins Coie was retaliated against in violation of its First Amendment rights, its Fifth Amendment rights, when Donald Trump tried to blacklist them.

because he saw their involvement with the Robert Mueller investigation and the rest, declared them to be a national security risk, ordered all aspects of the federal government to stop doing business with them,

effectively tried to cut their yearly revenue in half or more by denying them the ability to represent clients before the federal government. Judge Beryl Howell wrote a scathing decision, ultimately a permanent injunction against the Trump administration, and also at the same time, while rewarding Perkins Coie,

She also said the 14 other law firms that settled with Donald Trump should have come to federal judges, should have obtained justice and should not have bent the knee to Donald Trump. She said in there that the independent bar is one of the major guardrails against a tyrant, against an out of control tyranny that being developed by Donald Trump.

And she said, those lawyers and those law firms that settled with Donald Trump, how can clients ever trust them? Beryl Howell wrote in her opinion. How could you ever trust that Donald Trump's going to do right by you? It isn't going to or the law firms are going to do right by you. It isn't going to try to accede to Donald Trump and the federal government in order to curry favor with them. That order has now been appealed just in the nick of time.

We're just in the nick of time here on Midas Touch Network and Legal AF. Let's dive into it. An appeal. How do you get an appeal started? Let's do a TED Talk meets a law school class that you come to enjoy on Legal AF. How do you do an appeal? You file a notice of appeal. Normally, you have 30 days from a judgment to file your notice of appeal. Unless you're the federal government or a government, you get 60 days.

So May 2nd is when the order, the final order judgment against Donald Trump, Trump administration was entered by Judge Beryl Howell in favor of Perkins Coy, blocking the executive order, making them radioactive from going into effect. So that gave them until July 2nd. So they've now filed their one page notice of appeal. It starts at the D.C., the D.C. Court of Appeals, the Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit, if you will.

It will then be assigned to one of, well, three, a three-judge panel will be assigned to it. They haven't moved for emergency relief. They haven't moved for an emergency stay as of yet. That could be coming, but it's a little hard to move for an emergency stay when you waited almost a full 60 days to file your notice of appeal. It's hard to say it's an emergency when you've waited around tapping your foot for 60 days. So there'll be a three-judge panel that's randomly assigned by the clerk,

That comes from the 20 or so judges of the D.C. Court of Appeals, the Circuit Court of Appeals. And then they'll set a briefing schedule. Briefing schedule, if it's on a normal track, will be over the next three to nine months with oral argument probably in the second quarter of 2026. Could happen in 2025. All bets are off if Donald Trump tries to make an emergency application. I just don't see that prevailing here.

Arguments there will be that Donald Trump has the right to call out law firms and to call them and brand them national security risks with little or no evidence. The fact that a former partner of Perkins Coie, Mark Elias, who is no longer there,

and another of their lawyers who's no longer there. This is now six, seven years ago. Then Perkins Coie has to suffer for that. And where is the evidence of a national security risk?

that diversity, equity and inclusion is being used in the hiring practices. I mean, this whole thing is a mess, such a mess that Beryl Howell had to start her order with a recitation of the importance of the independence of the bar and lawyers in America, citing to de Tocqueville, who circulated America in the 1830s, pointing out the only thing that stops this country from sliding into tyranny is an independent set of lawyers.

And then citing to founding fathers who were lawyers who took on popular positions and, of course, weren't punished because of it. And so Donald Trump tried this once before, just to remind everybody. He brought a lawsuit.

Against these same individuals, against Hillary Clinton, against the Democratic Party, against others down in Florida. You know what happened there? The judge, Judge Middlebrooks, found it to be a wholly unworthy and meritless case and fined Donald Trump and Alina Alina Haber, who brought the case a million dollars in sanctions for bad faith filing.

Hasn't changed just because Donald Trump is now the president of the United States. So we'll get the briefing once the three judge panel is arranged. Once that panel is arranged, I'll be able to report on it on Midas Touch and on Legal AF about, you know, was it a Trump or an Obama person, a Clinton person? It used to not matter. But unfortunately, we're able to interpret a lot of body language when we know who appointed these judges.

Yeah, I want to say they're all moderate. I want to say they're all going to make the right decision or all for the rule of law. But let's be frank. You get a couple of Trumpers in there and all bets are off. So I want to see the three judge panel. Of course, the briefing will be outstanding on the Perkins Coie side. It'll be less than outstanding on the Department of Justice side. They will likely rule for Perkins Coie.

support the ruling of Judge Beryl Howell. And then the last stop on the train is Donald Trump trying to take some sort of appeal to the United States Supreme Court, which will not be an emergency application, but will be the regular request for an appeal. We call it a writ of certiorari. It gets filed.

There has to be four votes of the nine to be interested in the writ of certiorari. And of course, five votes to overturn Judge Beryl Howell. That will be in the next term of the United States Supreme Court. This last term just ended.

Yeah, with with about six or eight opinions dropped on Friday, including some terrible ones about birthright citizenship and nationwide injunctions. They'll be working over the summer on some emergency applications that have yet to be filed, but will be filed, including, I think, about birthright citizenship. And then they open their new term the first Monday in October. There's many ways to follow what happens here. Midas Touch, Legal AF, I do about everything.

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