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You Are More Like Grammy-Winner Jacob Collier Than You Think

2025/2/4
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A Bit of Optimism

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Jacob Collier: 我认为音乐创作和聆听的过程非常相似,都是对情绪的表达和调整。创作音乐时,我会根据自己的感受即兴演奏,并尝试将这些感受转化为有价值的东西。我从小在鼓励内省和情感表达的家庭环境中长大,音乐帮助我梳理内心的情绪和体验。我的学习方式是遵循兴趣,而不是刻板的练习。我将观众也视为乐器的一部分,通过与他们的互动,创造出更丰富的音乐体验。我的音乐创作既有结构,也有随意性,这体现了打破与构建的平衡。 我将钢琴作为表达和处理各种情绪的工具,它也是我的‘治疗师’。即兴创作和歌曲创作是不同的过程,后者需要将即兴元素组织起来。将原始想法提炼成可分享的成果,需要一个过程,在这个过程中,一部分能量会消散。我为过去的作品感到自豪,但更关注新的想法和探索。我会对过去的一些观点进行调整和完善,但这些调整不会改变我的核心思想。 我与观众的互动从简单的问答演变成多声部合唱,这让我意识到音乐是人人都能理解的,即使他们不懂乐理。音乐的基本元素是高低、强弱、多寡,这些都是人人都能理解的。引导观众演唱单音,并将其置于不同的音乐语境中,可以帮助他们理解自己在音乐中的位置。观众合唱团的成功与否,取决于超过一半的观众是否理解音乐原理。 我认为,音乐创作的过程是寻找秩序与混沌之间的平衡。当秩序过多时,我们需要打破它;当混沌过多时,我们需要从中寻找秩序。这是一种循环往复的过程。我将自己视为音乐的‘扩音器’,通过我的演奏,将音乐传递给其他人,并与他们共同创造音乐。这是一种健康的自我认知,既有自我,也有谦逊。 Simon Sinek: 真正的原创作品既要构建新的东西,也要打破旧有的东西,两者同时进行。艺术创作并非必须源于痛苦,健康的情感表达同样重要。每个人都是艺术家,只是需要找到自己的媒介。人们比他们想象的更像Jacob Collier。创作音乐和聆听音乐的过程非常相似。 我喜欢诗歌中列举的音韵。Jacob Collier能够将观众转化为乐器,创造出高质量的音乐。我为过去的作品感到自豪,但更关注新的想法和探索。我的新作品建立在过去作品的基础之上。我会对过去的一些观点进行调整和完善,但这些调整不会改变我的核心思想。 如何处理过去的想法,并使其与个人成长保持一致?我更喜欢与观众交流新的想法,并从中获得新的思考。我认为,音乐创作的过程是寻找秩序与混沌之间的平衡。当秩序过多时,我们需要打破它;当混沌过多时,我们需要从中寻找秩序。这是一种循环往复的过程。

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Grammy-winning musician Jacob Collier possesses the unique ability to transform his audiences into musical instruments, creating impressive three-part choirs during his concerts. His album, "Djesse Vol. 4," was nominated for Album of the Year at the 2025 Grammy Awards, showcasing his innovative approach to music.
  • Jacob Collier's ability to turn audiences into choirs
  • His album "Djesse Vol. 4" nominated for Album of the Year
  • Unique approach to music blending structure and spontaneity

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To create something truly original, do we build something new or break what came before? Perhaps the answer is both—simultaneously.

Jacob Collier does exactly that. A brilliant songwriter and musician, he’s known for transforming his live audiences into massive three-part choirs, making music with the very people who attend his concerts. His album Djesse Volume 4 was nominated for Album of the Year at the 2025 Grammy Awards, alongside icons like Beyoncé, Billie Eilish, and Taylor Swift. Although Beyoncé's Cowboy Carter won, Jacob snagged his seventh Grammy for his rendition of "Bridge Over Troubled Water."

I sat down with him in a music studio a few days before the Grammys, surrounded by multiple pianos, and it was a joy to hear him play. Jacob’s approach to music—blending structure with spontaneity—offers insights into creativity that are as inspiring as his sound.

This…is A Bit of Optimism.

For more on Jacob, check out:

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