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Paul Reiser | Club Random with Bill Maher

2024/12/15
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Club Random with Bill Maher

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Paul Reiser: 我写了一部关于早期喜剧演员生活的小说,这部小说以工会斗争为主要政治冲突,展现了当时喜剧演员的真实生活,以及他们为了舞台时间而愿意接受低薪的现实。电影无法完整展现早期喜剧演员的生活,因为他们的生活经历和故事远比电影所能呈现的要复杂得多。 我年轻时有勇气去参加脱口秀表演的试镜,即使演出失败,我也渴望继续表演。演出失败后,我无法面对自己的表演录音,这让我很难继续创作。但是,即使演出失败,我也渴望继续表演,因为这让我感觉自己是在正确的道路上。 成为一名优秀的脱口秀演员需要持续不断的努力,没有捷径可走。长时间不进行脱口秀表演会影响状态,只有不断地练习和磨练才能提升自己的表演水平。 删减文字是写作的一部分,观众总是领先于表演者,好的开场白能够迅速拉近与观众的距离。即使表演不好,也要承认并继续表演,因为这能让你和观众保持在同一频道上。 我年轻时过于注重搞笑而忽略了其他方面,我曾从一个平庸的喜剧演员身上获得了灵感,他通过持续不断的努力最终获得了成功。 喜剧演员之间通常是互相支持的,而不是互相竞争的,他们会互相分享创作素材。我曾将自己创作的段子分享给其他喜剧演员,并最终在电视节目中看到它被使用,这让我非常兴奋。 我写的小说中的人物并非完全基于现实人物,而是将一些有趣的人物特征结合起来进行创作。 编辑和修改是喜剧创作的重要组成部分,不断地调整和完善才能使作品更加完美。 Bill Maher: 早期喜剧演员的报酬很低,他们为了舞台时间而愿意接受低薪。早期喜剧俱乐部会提供食物给演员,早期喜剧演员会去俱乐部蹭吃免费的食物。现在的服务行业人员工作态度不佳,我停止巡回演出,部分原因是旅途中的服务质量差,旅馆提供的早餐质量很差。 年轻一代过于追求社交媒体上的认可,他们需要通过社交媒体来获得认可和肯定。喜剧演员创作的目的是为了给观众带来快乐,即使演出失败,他们也渴望继续表演。 好的开场白能够迅速拉近与观众的距离,即使表演不好,也要承认并继续表演。在朋友面前表演和在陌生人面前表演是不同的,好的开场白能够迅速拉近与观众的距离。 我年轻时过于注重搞笑而忽略了其他方面,观众希望脱口秀表演保持真实和自然。他欣赏那些勇于尝试和创新的艺术家。

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What was the pay like for comedians in the early days of comedy clubs?

Comedians in the early days of comedy clubs were paid very little. Initially, they received $3 a night, which was barely enough for cab fare and a hamburger. Over time, the pay increased to $10 a night and $25 on weekends, but it was still a struggle for many comedians to make a living.

Why did Paul Reiser write a novel about the comedy club scene?

Paul Reiser wrote a novel about the comedy club scene to depict the reality of life as a comedian, which he felt was often misrepresented in movies. He wanted to show the political and personal struggles comedians faced, including the tension between unionization and the need for stage time.

What was the relationship between comedians and the comedy clubs in the early days?

The relationship between comedians and comedy clubs in the early days was a mutual exploitation. Clubs used comedians for cheap labor, while comedians used the clubs to gain stage time and hone their craft. There was tension over pay and unionization, but comedians were grateful for the opportunity to perform.

How did Paul Reiser describe the process of refining a comedy act?

Paul Reiser described refining a comedy act as a process of constant editing and experimentation. He emphasized the importance of removing unnecessary words and finding the precise order of jokes to maximize their impact. He compared it to tinkering with a delicate instrument, where even small changes could make a big difference.

What was the significance of the Tonight Show for comedians in the 1970s and 1980s?

The Tonight Show was the ultimate goal for comedians in the 1970s and 1980s. It was seen as the pinnacle of success in the comedy world, and appearing on the show could catapult a comedian's career. Many comedians worked tirelessly to perfect their acts in hopes of getting a spot on the show.

What did Paul Reiser learn from working with Woody Allen?

Paul Reiser learned from working with Woody Allen that even legendary comedians are constantly refining their craft. Allen was meticulous about details and would question why a joke worked one night but not the next. This taught Reiser that comedy is a precise art that requires continuous effort and attention.

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Bill and legendary comedian Paul Reiser go deep on all things comedy, from the early days at comedy clubs like Catch a Rising Star and the Improv, the terrible pay of early comedy, the difference between being “club funny” and what works on television, Richard Belzer, Jerry Seinfeld, Larry David, and the New York comedy scene, Paul’s experience with Woody Allen, the tension between performing “works in progress” versus polished final sets, the concept of soul mates, hiring young comedy writers, and the importance of spotting talent and the subtle spark that differentiates a promising writer or comedian from the rest.

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