Anime Convention Horror Stories | Trash Taste #22
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- Welcome back to another episode of Trash Taste Podcast. I'm your host Joey, and with me are the boys, the British boys, the BBs. - I thought you'd only have like a Neanderthal or something. - Oh, okay. - Come on, Joey. - What's up residents of Cuckfield? Welcome back to another episode of Trash Taste Podcast. - Okay, I'll take it. - I didn't expect that. - If you're actually from Cuckfield then there you go, there's your shout out. - Today I found out that I was on a Samsung ad by accident. - Oh yeah, I saw that. - Yeah, I saw you sent the clip to Sydney, right?

- No, no, I didn't. - I saw you retweeting it, I'm pretty sure. - Did I send a sent a sent a sent? - I don't know. - That was for your Fiverr thing. - So I did a Fiverr video where I became a Fiverr seller and normally, right, Fiverr, you get like vastly undercharged. And it's kind of like, that's kind of how the website works.

But I got contacted by someone who was like, "Oh, let's do an actual ad." I thought, great, this is amazing content for the video because I can actually show people like how to do it. - My skills. - Yeah, right? I was like, "Oh, flexible." And I asked them a few questions 'cause normally when you do a commercial with voice acting, you need to figure out, it's like buyout fees and depending on basically,

how much the ad is gonna play and how many countries it's gonna play in is how you like calculate a buyout fee. So the normal studio fee, which is like the doing the work and then there's the fee for essentially using your voice worldwide. And you know, it varies a lot. Like you can, I know dudes who've gotten like 50K

- I mean, you were talking about like in a previous podcast episode about the guy who does the ads for McDonald's. - Yeah, he lives off just that. And like I did a commercial one time where I got like $8,000 for just one hour of work. - Was that the boats one? - Which one was that? It was a car one. I'll have to find it. I can get the link. - You did like a shaving one as well, right? - Yeah, I've done a shaving one in the past as well. - Like Gillette or whatever the fuck it was. - Yeah, ages ago, ages ago. And basically you get paid like quite a lot for doing these.

And it's like, okay, cool, right? Nice, nice. And I thought, okay, this commercial seems kind of small. - So how much did he pay you? - I asked, 'cause I thought this ad was like pathetic.

I asked for $300. Cause I was like, it's only gonna take like 30 minutes. - You were thinking of the content. That was what was on your mind. - I didn't wanna be too greedy and I really wanted to get it. So I thought 300 is a normal like studio rate fee plus like whatever. It's only gonna play on the internet. It's not a big deal. And then I actually had to do like dubbing, like actual mouth dubbing.

- So you actually had to dub out the entire scene. - Yeah, so I dubbed over the dude's mouth. - I didn't actually see the ad. I just saw you like retweeting it or tweeting about it. - It's weird. I don't think my voice fits the dude that well. - It was so weird watching it 'cause I was watching the ad and I didn't know what the process was, but what it felt like was, remember watching like those old Hong Kong movies where it was like badly dubbed lip flops over the film? - Like some Kung Pao shit. - Yeah, exactly. That's what it was.

- It's not bad, I mean- - I mean, he was still saying what you were saying. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. It just, I think the problem is that like,

especially 'cause everyone knows my voice. The problem is that like everyone knows my voice and that's not what you hear when you hear my voice. Normally if you don't really know the person, 90% of people are gonna hear the ad aren't gonna be like, "Oh, that's a normal ad, no biggie." But people who know me are gonna be like, "What the fuck?" - It was so weird hearing your voice come out of like a really old man or something like that. - I've done that before though. Like that's really like normal. - So wait, it was like legit Samsung?

- It's like a Samsung ad, yeah. I don't know what it's for, but- - Man, they got fucking, they got like the deal of the century. - I got fucking ripped off. Again, I mean, I priced what I thought was fair based on what the seller had told me. And if I knew it was gonna be Samsung and it's gonna be played worldwide like that, I'd be like,

- You thought you were playing them, but in the end they were playing you, man. They played you. - Also why the fuck is Samsung hiring Fiverr voice actors? What the fuck? - Yeah, you think they go to professional- - Yeah, it's a little- - Not to say that some Fiverr voice actors aren't professionals. - Hearing more stories makes me wonder how many big industry companies are going on these small sites, like hiring Fiverr voice actors, putting job ads on Craigslist or whatever. Right, Raylan?

- So what I think happens is that, okay, so Samsung is there like, listen guys, we have a genius advertisement here. We want a company to handle it. They go and find an ad agency. And then that agency is like, we know just the guy. They probably hire another agency who then probably hires the final agency that actually makes it. And then they've got like no budget. So they're like, get the five voice actors.

- I'm not gonna lie, a lot of the five voice actors are really fucking good. - Yeah, yeah. - And they're getting charged like nothing. - Yeah. I mean, I would argue that like almost everyone on that website is probably a little too overqualified for what you're paying. - I mean, they're either- - That's how the website works. - I mean, they're either overly qualified

or the heavily under-porned bike. - That's true. - There's no in between. - There'll be people like a blue Yeti that are like, "Yeah, I guess I can give you the commercial rights to it. "50 more words is gonna run you, "oh, geez, 400 bucks, man." - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - It's like, what the fuck? - I've had that with artists as well, where some of them are just fucking God tier, where it's like, you should make an art book. And then other people are like,

- Just started DeviantArt two days ago. Let's go. - $100 per commission. Let's go. And it's such a coin flip because even if they have like a good portfolio, right? I've had experiences where I've hired like artists to produce like artwork or music or something. And it is,

not up to the level they put on their portfolio or on their public. - Yeah, exactly. - You can tell it was like, here's my A-list work and you're just getting the D-list work on Fiverr here. You know what I mean? - 'Cause you're not paying me like $500 or some bullshit. - Same with the voice acting as well 'cause a lot of people get their demos done in a studio, like fully like mixed, produced professionally. - But then when they do it at home,

- Look at the fucking blue Yeti set up in a hotel room and it's like, all right. I don't know if this is what I paid for, you know? So yeah, that's how I got fucking scammed. I didn't get scammed, it's my bad. Well played Samsung. - Did you record this commercial?

- Shoot or commercial recording in your own room? - Yeah, in my room. And I did it like, I didn't do any of the treating actually 'cause they wanted to do it. So it was pretty painless. The only thing was is that like, because the lip flaps, they had like fucking, of course they zoomed in on this man's fucking face. So the lip flaps were so pronounced. So you could see exactly which syllable and which letter he was on. So, and there was one where they sent me where they were like, "Hey, can you change the script on this one line?" I'm like, "No."

the man's lips say this thing. What do you mean can I change the script? I can't fucking change it to what you, you've added in like three more words. How do you think I'm gonna do that? - You should have done it just to really drive home the Kung power element of it, right? - I should have just sent it and been like, this is what you wanted. This is what you asked for. This is 300 bucks by the way. - That would have been hilarious. It's like the lip flaps clearly say like, I love Samsung, but you just changed it to like buy Apple.

- It's like the next level from anime dubbing, right? 'Cause with anime dubbing- - It's so much harder than anime dubbing. - With anime dubbing, you have to match all like the lip flaps with the same amount of syllables. - It's only two frames, right? It's open mouth and closed mouth. - No, no, three frames actually. I know this because I have to edit lip flaps in abridging. - Right, right, right. - Because in abridging, it's easy 'cause you take your script and you just fucking edit these three frames

of mouths, it's closed mouth, half open and fully open. But with dubbing, you obviously can't edit the lip flaps or anything like that. So you just, sometimes you hear some lines and it's really, it's a really unnatural line. You know what I mean? But you just gotta match what the animation is. - Yeah, it's really like makes you, especially if you try and do it, it really makes you fucking appreciate these like,

in the countries where they mainly dub a lot of the images that they import, like how fucking insane that is that they managed to do like full seasons of shows and like it's not terrible. It's so hard because you're so constrained by the mouth shapes. 'Cause you know, I mean, you have to exactly copy it. And luckily this was English, but like, oh my God, another language? - And then meanwhile you have countries like Japan that are just like, fuck that.

- Yeah, I've noticed Japan is just like, fuck the lip flaps, let's just talk over it. - That's what makes it like a million times more hilarious though. - Yeah, I know. - The voices, the change in the voices is already hilarious, but then seeing them say something that's just not a single mouth movement is correct. - You almost don't mind it though, 'cause you realize that they're just like, they're not trying to do that. - Yeah, they're just like, whatever. - It's like, whatever man, I don't give a shit. I was watching something like fucking some,

like history channel car restoration show on TV. And they had like, it was like a really like old British guy and they had like the proper like samurai sounding old dude. I was like, wow, okay, geez, that's not what he, I don't think that's what he sounds like, but all right, cool. - What was that in French?

- That's what the old dude sound like in Japanese. - Did you say Muda Muda Muda? - Muda Muda Muda. - Oh my God. - I fucking know, dude. Holy shit. - Speaking of Muda, did we talk about that time we went to a JoJo bar last week or did we not? - I don't think we did. - So yeah, 'cause I wanted to talk about the JoJo bar. So yeah, to explain, like two weeks ago, we went to the same JoJo bar that Joey made a video on.

And it was a fucking, I don't know what is about Japan that has so many of like these small bars that are like themed, but they're like way cooler than any of like the big bars that you go to in the West or that I've been to like in England that tried to make like this themed bar. You know what I mean? 'Cause it was so small and it was so intimate and it was run by a guy

clearly really fucking love JoJo. - Oh yeah. - And I think what impressed me the most was the fucking drink list, man. - Oh my God, it's gigantic. - Holy fuck. - Yeah, like the, because in my video as well, and when we got there, they say that you can film anything and you can take photos and videos of like any of the merch or anything like that, but you can't take,

a picture or video of the menu. And for the longest time, I never understood why, like why only the menu? But then when you actually flip through this menu and you realize there's like almost like a thousand fucking drinks. - I think there's like, it's gotta be, I'm counting my head, like maybe like around 300 drinks. - Yeah, I'd say so. But it's like more than like your conventional,

- Yeah. - And out of those like three, 400 drinks, half of them are originals. It just says original. - Yeah. - And they're all like named after, you know, characters and phrases and whatnot. And you have to fucking like perform the phrase as well to the bartender. - Yeah. - And it's so like embarrassing when like you say like lines like, excuse me, can I get the . And then she's like, okay, one . - Coming right up. - Coming right up.

- It's so cool. - Yeah, because to explain how the menu works, basically the menu works like a fucking, the menu is the JoJo reference, right? So it goes by parts. So every drink is either named after a character or a stand

or just a random reference. Like, you know, you have like a random catchphrase or something. Was there like a drinking platform that was like, let's kill the whore or something like that? - Yeah, let's kill the whore. - Let's kill the whore beach. - There was like a reference to like the dead dog in part one and one of them was well, what was it? - Oh yeah, it was like,

- Danny or something like that. - That was his name. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or something like that. - Something like that. And then there was like, oh my God, there was just so many funny sounding ones. Like I just loved it. There was one Bohemian Rhapsody. I mean, that's a stand. I just loved that I could order a drink called a Bohemian Rhapsody. - Yeah, I just found it super cool that I was just basically ordering a fucking, you know, Kira Yoshikage or something like that. You know, you just basically, you're just basically ordering JoJo references. And I thought that was fucking brilliant. - Although there was one thing that I was like kind of upset about.

And I don't know if this is gonna be a spoiler for part seven, but I was very upset that I couldn't order a Jesus Christ. - Oh yeah, I would have liked the Jesus Christ. - Yeah, I was looking through part seven, I'm like, please say this is a drink for Jesus Christ. - Was there a president of the United States as well? I don't think there was either. - I don't know. No, I think there was a, was there a- - There was Funny Valentine. - There was Funny Valentine. Was there not a George Bush? - A George Bush?

- Wait, 'cause he's a canon character, right? That he appears? - I don't know. I fucking can't remember. - It's like a character that's more of a laughter or something. I don't fucking know. - See, what I love about being a JoJo fan who's only watched the anime hanging out with you two, who have read way further in the manga, is that I was hanging out at this bar and you were just straight up putting out spoilers for part six and part seven. And the great thing about JoJo is that I was listening to these spoilers and I'm just like, I don't think I've actually been spoiled at all. - JoJo's the only show that you can spoil without actually

- It makes so little sense that when you hear it, it's like, you just don't see it ever coming when you're reading it. - Yeah, so in part seven, Dio turns into a dinosaur because he's going after Jesus Christ's arm and you're just like, - I guess that's what happens. - That was my exact reaction. - I knew that happened, but I didn't, like when I was reading it, I was like, oh, and I only realized it when it was happening. I was like, oh.

Oh, that's what everyone meant. - Because out of context, it's like, how does this plot point supposed to fit into the story in any sense? - It's hearing it out of context. It's just, it doesn't hinder your enjoyment when you actually experience the entire thing, which is why I'm fucking looking forward to when I'm hoping when part six and part seven gets animated, although,

- Hearing you guys talk about it in the bar, I might just like go out and read it honestly. - It's so good dude, it's so good. - The six and seven manga is fucking incredible. - I'm a Jojo like cocks, Jojo, cocksucker, whatever. So it's like, I mean, I'm trying to say it's always amazing. - Is that what the Jojo fan base is called now? - Jojo cocksuckers. - That's basically what they are. What is it? All the memes where it's like a Jojo fans when they see an unsucked cock or whatever. Is that what it is?

- The best part is there is that like, you don't know if the drink, like, cause it's just as original, right? So you have no idea what it is, but you kind of got to guess, is it going to be like a fruity, easy to drink drink? Or is it going to be like just fucking alcohol, like straight liqueur. And like Joey just somehow kept ordering, like just, he was like, I'll have the Rie and the Aurora and they were all just like basically straight spirits. I kept ordering stuff that was all like Malibu.

- Fruity drinks. - I actually think he has a kind of like a power leveling system going on with the drinks. 'Cause anytime you'd ordered like a main character or like a Jojo, it was always a super powerful drink. - I know like out of all the powerful drinks I had, I think the most powerful one I had was, no, it was part three Dio. - Was it really? The re was like straight vodka. - Re as well was fucking bad. - You had to order a drink by going, re.

- And then this cute bartender girl is like, okay. - But here's something, do you think he actually remembers every drink that he made? 'Cause most of them are originals. - I think so. - I mean, he has to, right? - Oh wait, when you order the Yoshikage Kira as well, it comes with a severed hand. - Oh, it came with a severed hand, which I thought was fucking brilliant, man. - And the Sex Pistols comes on like a roulette, like a style table thing with a gun in the middle.

- It's just basically six shots. - Which is perfect. - So you go through the menu, one, you don't know how strong the drink is gonna be. And like two, you don't know what the drink is gonna be either. So it was just a fun experience just working your way through the menu and just being like, hey, this is a Kira or this is like a Sex Pistols and just,

being surprised at what you got. - But I think as well, that's such an awesome like marketing move as well, because that just incentivizes you to go back to like, just being like, all right, I finished all the part one drinks this time around. Next week I'm gonna go back and finish all the part two drinks. - It's basically like watching JoJo itself. You work through each part until you get through every part. - You can't skip any of the parts. You have to like complete it. - I love how there was like five Rohan Kishibays. It was like Rohan Kishibay.

- Have in store, Rohan Kishbe at the Louvre. - No, it was like Rohan Kishbe goes to Gucci, right? That was one of the drinks. - Yeah, I was like, how many rohs?

- How many Rohan Kishibe's are there? What the fuck? - My favorite one was when you'd order like a Jotaro and you have to like specify which part Jotaro are you ordering. - Yeah, that's so awesome. It's like, I don't know. I feel like those kinds of establishments are just the most perfect place to just weed the fuck out. Because it's like, it forgives you for weaving out. - You get so drunk as well. Cause you're like, you just want to keep fucking drinking. And it's like reasonably priced. It's like, I don't know, like $7 a cup.

- Yeah, and all the cocktails were delicious as well. - Yeah. - They were really, really good. Even though, you know, half of them fucked me up because they were so fucking strong. - I just kept getting the straight shots and I just kept getting the nice ones and I'm like, hell yeah. - I was like, I want something nice to like soothe my throat after all these fucking shots. - Or it's a fucking sex pistol and just gets, it's just straight up six shots. It's not even a cocktail. - I love it. - That was great. - But yeah, go check it out if you guys are- - What was it called again? - It's called-

- It's just called Dio, yeah. It's in Nakano in Tokyo. - So when the country opens up, go and spam a visit. They have a Twitter as well. - Yeah, they have a Twitter. - Yeah, it's right near Nakano Broadway, which if you're gonna come to Japan, I reckon like a lot of weebs come to Japan and they're like, "We need to go to Akihabara. We need to go to Akihabara." But I reckon like Nakano Broadway is also very, very much- - Nakano Broadway is fucking awesome, yeah. - It's kind of like the underground version of Akihabara. - It's like a condensed Akihabara.

- Yeah, exactly. It's because everything's you can get most of the things you get in Akihabara just condensed down into one building and you can basically walk around it for a lot less time than you would Akihabara. - Yeah, there's just, I don't know. There's just like in Nakano Broadway, I feel there's just a lot more like interesting like otaku stores, like very, very, very nice.

- Yeah. - You might not necessarily be into it, but it's just really fucking interesting to see. - 'Cause the thing about Akihabara is that once you've been once, you see what the form there is. You know what I mean? You see what shows get on display. It's all like the Moe stuff normally. And you know, it's very, it's a lot more difficult to find a lot of the niche shows and kind of like

kind of like figurines or merchandise that are like less mainstream. But in "Knock on No Broadway," you find a lot of like untapped gems and like really cool stores there. - There's this fucking store in "Knock on No Broadway" that's like right at the entrance of "Knock on No Broadway" that sell Genghis.

from anime and they sell like cells from anime. - Oh, I saw that one. - Yeah, yeah. - I haven't been there, what the fuck? - Some of these cells, I mean, like some of these cells are quite cheap because they probably were like mass produced or were just based on shows that no one really cares about. But some of the more expensive ones are just like, holy shit. - Yeah, I remember there was a cell from the end of Evangelion that I saw from, it's in the top floor of Nakano Broadway, if I remember correctly, and it's right at the back.

But they have some like really classic sales. The most impressive one I saw was one from like the end of Evangelion and it was the Oscar fight as well. - Oh shit. - And it was an expensive boy. - How much was it? - It was like, I think it was over like $10,000.

- That sounds about right. - For a piece of paper. - I mean, at that point it's basically like a museum. - No, no, that's true. - How can you put a price on art? - How do they get that? - That's what I wonder. - How does that get in the hands of someone? - Maybe they sell those off in auctions?

- Maybe someone like, maybe some staff member takes it and then they sell it all. - It's like, it's only one cell though, I know. - Like, hey man, this crunch was brutal, man. I'm gonna take a little something home, like make a little cash on the side. - Like there's a snitch in this studio taking out our cells. - Yeah, but I think they're only just gonna get more expensive because now animation studios don't use cell animation anymore. - Right, right.

at this point it's just become like a memorabilia, right? Of history. Cause you can't, I mean, you can get like gangers and everything like that, but you know, having a good old fashioned cell is just a flex. - Yeah, because you can't like, unlike a ganga, you can't like, you know, photocopy a cell, right? Because it's based off like a plastic sheet. - Yeah, exactly. - So it's much easier to tell when a cell is completely fake. Cause I've seen some fucking completely fake cells. And it's just like on these like flimsy pieces of paper and people paying stupid amounts of money for it because they don't know anybody.

I'm just like, no, don't, what are you doing? It's just a fucking drawing. - Do you guys miss the old like cell animation aesthetic compared to like much cleaner digital aesthetic of today? - No. - It's bittersweet for me, I think. Like obviously like, you know, the digital stuff now is like so much better choreographed in the later ends. Like you can tell that like, oh, these camera movements were done through a computer. But I don't know, there's something really charming about like,

- It's a manual camera shake. - Ed, Ed and Eddie, great animation. - All sales. - Dude, man, I love that. Love the bubbly lines. - It's comfy. - I mean, like Redline was all hand drawn, right? And that's fucking, oh my God. - And that took like, what, 10 years? No, seven years. - Seven years. - It took a little while. - It took a little while.

- But yet no one fucking watched it. - Yeah, I mean, I will say that I think, you know, on average animation is better quality now because digital animation has made things, has made it easier to get a higher level quality of animation for like most anime. But yeah, I think you're right. There is like a definite charm

about watching good old fashioned style animation. - I definitely wouldn't want all my anime to be based off cells, but there are some like, especially like when you go back to like, you know, the whole like eighties, just like general anime aesthetic that like the, oh yeah, this is an eighties anime girl aesthetic. Like that on cell animation is just. - It's like a bowl of like rice krispies. You're like, I never eat a fucking bowl of rice krispies. But when I do, I'm like, all right.

- It's not bad. - But then the next day you're like, I don't even think about Rice Krispies. That's how I see it. You know what I mean? - I don't, but I'll just- - I don't give a fuck about cereal. - I'll just nod and agree. I know literally zero things about cereal. I don't eat cereal. - Yeah, me neither. That's why it's like, it just kind of reminds you of being a kid again. You know what I mean? - I don't fully agree with the Rice Krispies analogy, but I-

I'll just assume that like you're fucking- - That's what it's like. - Old animation reminds me of like a bowl of cereal, right? Like I never, I don't eat cereal. 'Cause frankly, I don't care for it. There, I said it, okay? Controversial. - No, it's not controversial. - Here's the controversial thing. When I do eat cereal, I don't eat it without milk. I'd eat it without milk. I want my cereal dry. I think the milk ruins it. - It's better than people who say like fucking monsters who say like, oh yeah, I use water

- Okay, that is a level even I won't stoop to. - I'm pretty sure that's like in the like Jiva convention that you can't do that. That's like fucked up.

- Goes against basic human rights. - Dude, I knew a guy in my uni. No, I saw him fucking do it too. I knew a guy in my uni who- - Did you call the police? - Dead ass. Yeah, I was about to. I think I'm being assaulted right now. My eyes are being assaulted. No, it was fucking disgusting. - I've never condoned like spitting in someone's food, but I think-

I think there's an exception to be made. - Yeah, he was eating like just, and it was like basic ass corn flakes as well. And I'm like, it's already a human rights crime to just eat corn flakes with nothing in it. Let alone with water. - You can eat corn flakes with nothing in it. - Depends on the corn flakes. - Yeah, but like eating it with water is like- - Oh, that's a, yeah, yeah, yeah.

- It's like, here, let me top my water with more water. - That's like who likes the cereal when it's the soggiest, right? 'Cause that's all you're doing. You're just making your cereal soggy. - Exactly. - Like, what are you, were you that desperate for hydration that you needed to go for your fucking corn flakes? Like what the fuck? - Yeah, that's why whenever I used to eat cereal in high school, I would eat that shit so fucking fast. - Did he make it through high school or did he like just not make it? - I mean, he was in my uni, so I guess he did. - Oh shit, okay, wow. A university took him in. - I'm like, man, like you can't even afford milk at uni?

- Are you that much of a broke uni student that you can't even afford milk? - You just go to the tap and you're like, here we go again another day. - I don't know what it is about uni and like communal kitchens. And the one thing that always gets taken in the communal kitchens is the milk. It's always the milk. I don't know why everything else is just like- - It's because you can take it and you think they won't notice, that's why.

but everyone does it. - Like you can label your cutlery, you can label your food to be like, don't touch this, don't touch this. You can label your milk, but it never works. Your milk will inevitably disappear in like a day or two if you don't touch it. - Yeah, because it's like a lost currency, right? It's like water, but with calories. - I remember that. - It's water with attitude. - It's water with attitude. - I had a friend who was in my dorm and I liked him. And then one time, I did like him,

but now I don't. - You did, I liked him. - Emphasize the did. - You know, he was really high and then I came in- - Wait, stoned? - Yeah, stoned. He was really stoned. And then I walk in and I see him eating cookies and cream Ben and Jerry's. And I'm like, where's my, that's not my cookies and cream Ben and Jerry's, is it? And he's like, "Oh, sorry, I'll buy you one tomorrow." And I'm like, "I was gonna eat that tonight."

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- Thank you for sponsoring this episode. Back to the video. - In England, sometimes they have these ice cream vans, right? That only come out that one day that it's summer or that it's sunny. - I've never seen them do that though. - Have you ever had the soft serve from one of those ice cream vans before? - Yeah, you see it coming out of like the machine, right? The flake, right? - It's 99 flake and some of them, they do come out white. Some of them, they come out yellow, right? And you'd always know it's like the shittiest ice cream 'cause it's not even ice cream.

Okay, ice, there's the ice and the cream in the soft serve. With this, it's like 70% cream and like 30% ice. So it's like, it's not even filling either. - But was it you who said that you're not a fan of soft serves? - I think soft serve tastes too milky.

- But that's the best bit. - Nah, dude. - It's the fact that it's milky. - It feels like I'm eating milk. I don't wanna eat milk. I wanna eat ice cream. - Soft serve is the best ice cream. - Gelato. - Get the fuck out of here. Gelato is like eating a three course meal while in one soft serve. - I like how gelato can crush everything else in my stomach down to make room. - Wait, wait. So you've never had a creamy premium? - No, no, I have, I have. - Do you like it? - I think it's too milky. - You like it, right? - I mean, it's...

- It's good because it's a soft serve, but I do agree that it's a bit too milky. I think- - Japan are obsessed with milk. I don't know what it is. - I think humanity peaked in soft serves and in ice cream in general with the McFlurry. I don't know what it is about McFlurry, but I can eat that shit like for an eternity. - Is the McFlurry a soft serve?

- I feel like it's in its own category of ice. Like it's not even like- - I mean, out of us three, you're the only one who ever worked at McDonald's. - Yeah, yeah, if anyone should know it's you. - So it comes out of a machine, right? That kind of looks like a soft snack machine. Am I correct? - I mean, yeah.

- Is it a soft serve? - It's the same ice cream that they put in the cone for like McDonald's ice cream as well. - Yeah, like the 20 cent. - I don't know what it is about putting a soft serve in a cup and then putting some toppings on it and then fucking.

- Fucking spinning it? - I can't. - Mixing it. I don't know why that's just the magical formula, but I remember the first time I've tasted McFlurry. I'm like, I like all these ingredients individually.

but put them together and mix them in a separate way. - You McFlurried in your pants? - I McFlurried in my pants basically. - I can't even remember this, but is the milkshake machine and the ice cream machine the same? - No, no, it's not. - But it's the same machine, right? It's like two different settings, right? - I think I've had like three McFlurries in my life. - What? - Yeah. - No, because the McFlurry, the ice cream machine at McDonald's actually works. The milkshake, it's like 70% of the time it's not working.

- 'Cause I remember when I worked at McDonald's, I had to like refill the milkshake machine and it was like, it's just like a sack.

Like it's just a sack of fluid. - Okay. - Right? And to fill this up, right? You have to like hold up this bag, loosen the cap and then like pour it in the bag. Have you ever tried to pour something out of a bag? - Yeah. - It's like the fucking worst. Like there's no like faucet or anything, not faucet, fucking like lid or anything to direct it. It's just a fucking hole. And so I'm pouring this thing and then a little bit obviously like started splashing. Obviously when it starts splashing, you're like,

and I put it all over my fucking cell in front of everyone and the machine was broke. - And then everybody came around and licked it off. - The machine was broke for another hour 'cause we had to clean everything up that I fucking spilled everywhere. - So what was inside the bag? - It's milkshake mix. - So why is the milkshake machine always broken? - They have to clean it constantly. Like that's when I was there, like they would fucking clean it every few hours 'cause apparently obviously the milk can get stale really fast.

- In an hour though? - No, but it's like they have to clean it I think like two times a day at least. I can't remember 'cause like- - I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if the milkshake machine was basically the same as the ice cream machine. And that's because a McDonald's milkshake is basically a fucking soft serve, but you have to drink it through a straw. - Yeah, it's a melted soft serve. - So like every time I get a McDonald's milkshake, you have this like five minute grace period where it's impossible to drink the fucking milkshake. - True, true, true. - But that's great 'cause you eat the food

and then you can drink the milkshake. - 'Cause you try sucking in it and the straw just fucking collapses in on its own weight. That's like the McDonald's milkshake experience. - You create like a mini black hole inside of it. Everything gets crushed. - My brother worked for McDonald's and when I turned 16, I really wanted the fucking Xbox One. So I was like, I'm gonna get a job at McDonald's. You get paid like four pound 10 an hour, which is like $5 or like maybe $5.50.

And yeah, I fucking hated it. And I remember my brother telling me, he was like, "Yeah, you're gonna get sick of McDonald's food really fast." And I was like six months in, I'm like, "I fucking love this food still."

'Cause you'd get to make your own, like, you weren't supposed to, but like the managers were like, "You can have this." Like, "Go on." So you could basically make your own burger. So I used to just make like the, like in the UK we have like fried chicken sandwiches, like fancy ones. They used like the, like they had like a better meat

I mean, it's still all fucking awful, but I would just fucking put like a handful of fucking bacon and just shove it on. That was like the best part. And then you could get like meals for like half price, but everything else was fucking awful at McDonald's. Everything was awful. Like the people were the worst part, man. They were just like- - Like the workers or the customers? - Workers, the workers. - Oh really? - 'Cause I just didn't get on with any of them. And they were all, you know, like not to be mean, but a lot of the ones that I worked with were like people that like I wouldn't be friends with.

- Whenever I go to a McDonald's and I see like an employee smiling, I'm like, he's sus. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Who is he murdered today? So some orange is sus right now. - I remember I legitimately got like, I got like put, I had to go and sit in the, I got like fucking put on like detention.

for like 20 minutes. - At the McDonald's. - Because I was working on the fucking, like making the chicken burgers and the burgers. I was making the burgers and they told me off for not smiling. And I said, why do I have to smile when making burgers? And they looked at me like, why did you ask that question? And they told me to go and take a break for 20 minutes. - It's like a George Orwell novel, isn't it? - I was like, what do you mean? - It's like dystopia, everyone has to smile. - I was like, what do you mean? Why am I not fucking smiling, mate? I'm making a fucking burger, what do you mean?

I couldn't believe, I was furious. - Yeah, it's like they're at home, they make their own sandwiches, like, "Shit, I forgot to smile." - I couldn't believe it. And so I was like 16 one time, and the one time where I was like, "I fucking hate it here," was when they were talking to me, and these dudes were like 25, and they were bragging to me, like both of them were bragging to me about how they were going to the party in the school next to me, of like 16 year olds. And I was like, "So you went to a party full of 16 year olds?" And they're like, "Yeah, it was sick." And I'm like, "Why?"

Why did you go to a party full of 16 year olds? You're 25 and they were like, "Oh, I wanted to get with the girls." I'm like,

- What? Where am I in the UK it's legal for 16, but I was still like, what? - Yeah, but still. - What the fuck? - Yeah, but still. - And the only nice people there were the ones above 40, but everyone near my age was just the fucking worst. And every time I had to go and train someone, so I was there for like three months and after three months, you're ready to train people. You're a fucking McDonald's veteran because you've lasted more than 90% of the fucking employees. No joke because- - I believe that.

- Yeah, I believe it, but it's hilarious. - They over hire because they know that people are gonna like leave. So I was teaching this one guy and he was clearly like, just like not getting it and didn't wanna get it. And I could tell he was like, "Yeah, I'm not gonna listen to this."

So about two hours into his shift of me teaching him, he goes, "I'm gonna get a smoke break." He just never came back. He just left. He just straight up left. He never came back. And then I had to do the whole shift on my own, then doing all this shit. And I was like, I went to my boss and I'm like, "Oh, so,

- Yeah, he didn't come back. - He just went for a smoke break. - He went for a smoke break about two hours ago. - He just pulled like the dad leaves for a smoke break. - Yeah, that's what I was thinking. - He went to go buy cigarettes, he never came back. - He never came back and I was like, wait, so what do I do? And they're like, oh, you just gotta work on your own. And I'm like, what?

What do you mean? What do you mean? And I got a, for one another time I was making, it was the same guy actually. It was the first hour of teaching him. And when you're- - So what was the entire timeline? How long did he work here that you had to teach him for? - Three hours and a half and he went for a smoke break. But I had to keep working because, and I asked, okay, this is really bad. And I honestly, I could have fucking sued McDonald's for this. So,

- When we were, this really fucking hot oil, it's like 400 degrees from ridiculous. - Like fry oil. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's ridiculously hot. And this asshole next to me, I was like, yeah, just gently put it in, you know. Next to me while I was showing him, I'm like, yeah, so put the chicken nuggets in here. And he fucking slams them in, right? Oil went all over my hand, right? And then I asked, could I go and put it under cold water to my boss? And they were like, no, you gotta keep working.

And I'm like, what? So I'm here fucking like crying of pain, making these fucking burgers, right? And then- - And don't forget to smile. - Yeah, don't forget to smile. - Right, don't forget to smile. - I have a third degree burn. - And so about an hour later, it's finally my time to get a break, right? And I'm eating my burger and you can see my hand is bright pink and like blistered.

And the other manager, because of course there's multiple managers, there's one McDonald's. The other manager comes in and is mortified. He's like, "What the fuck is that?" He's like, "What happened?" And I'm like, "Oh, I spilled oil on it." And then he's like, "Why didn't you put your hand under water?" And I was like, "Oh, 'cause the other manager said I couldn't." And bear in mind, I was like 16. So I should have known that I could have been like, "No, fuck you, I'm putting my hand under water." But when you're 16, if the boss tells you to do- - You do what you're told, right? - You do what you do, right? - Of course, of course.

mortified and the other boss got into so much shit and they apologized to me profusely. And then they like, were like, yeah, it's okay. You don't have to come into work tomorrow. It's all paid. And I was like, wow, that's so nice of them. But I realized at the time they were just like hoping I wouldn't fucking try and sue them. Right, 'cause I could have. - You could have easily. - I should have, honestly. - That's like some serious OHS problem. - Yeah, and then finally when I quit,

I quit prematurely because I was just done. My manager was a total bitch. The store owner was horrible. She hated dudes. Like she would always be so nice to the women working there. And then whenever a guy did anything wrong, you get absolutely like shit on. I know I'm talking so much, sorry. That's the last story, I promise. - I just can't get over the fact

- My man was speed running McDonald's. - It took me like eight months to realize what he realized in two hours. - That's disrespectful at that point, right? Just like, all right, this isn't for me.

- I'm gonna head out. - He just wall clicked out of there. - He was like, you know what? The reduced money on the meals just isn't worth it, right? 'Cause okay, you gotta admit, right? I was the fucking king when school and I was like, you want a lunch break? I get half price off McDonald's meals. Who wants to come? You get two meals. - I remember the cool kids in school where whoever worked at the coolest place and could get like the big- - Discount, yeah. - The discount. So whoever worked in the fucking gaming store, man, they were the king. - Yeah, 'cause I could bring my mate and lunch, I'm like, we can get a whole McDonald's meal for two pounds.

Whole meal, any size you want. Treat yourself, treat yourself. Yeah, it was great. I mean, I could have got fat. So anyway, I'm working like a shift, right? And then I'd actually been training to be a lifeguard. I did all the stuff and I applied to be a lifeguard. And you know when you work for a place, you gotta put down a reference. I'd never, have you ever had this where they actually contact the reference? - No. - I'd never had that. So I just thought it was like a myth. I thought it was like a bluff. It was like, go on, name's on.

Name someone. - Who the fucking dare you to call me? - Name someone who will interrogate, I dare you. So they actually fucking called my McDonald's whilst I was working my shift. So they do it and they come in like, "So Connor, are you looking for other employment?" And I'm like,

Why? Like, what do you mean? Like, 'cause we just got a call from the council asking for a reference for you to be a lifeguard. What's up with that? You didn't tell us. And I was like in my head, I'm like, why do I have to tell you? Like, fuck you, you pay me $4 an hour. Like, what do I owe you? - Yeah, what are they gonna be like, you can check out, but you can never leave. - Yeah, and I was like, oh, well, yeah. I mean, I was looking for a better job and they fucking like flipped a switch when I said a better job. They were like, what do you mean a better job? Think McDonald's is a bad job? And I was like, well, I mean,

I mean, I'm like looking around and I'm like. - What surprised me is like how little self-awareness they seem to have over there, right? - 'Cause the thing is right, I don't wanna shit on some of these guys 'cause I know that I've met some managers at McDonald's that were genuinely like super nice guys and they have such like, you know, they understand like it's a McDonald's. But the managers of my McDonald's, they were like, what are you trying to say? Like, you're trying to say my managerial job is like a joke? Like, in my head, I'm kind of like,

- Yeah, kinda. - Yes, actually. - Did you see the food safety thing we had to fill out online? That was a joke, come on. It's like, don't shit on the lettuce. Obviously don't shit on the lettuce. So the manager's really pissed off, right? And the store owner is coming in 10 minutes and he's like, "I want you to talk to the store owner "and explain yourself." And 10, when he comes in, I'm like, "Are you serious? "I'm 16." So-

- They really did not want to make you leave home. - They really like fucking put me through the ringer dude for this $4 an hour dude. Can you believe that? - It's like you want your Xbox right? - And my mom wondered why I fucking hated working here. And she was like, no, you're just over exaggerating Connor. And I'm like, no, it was awful. So the store owner comes in, right? And they made me go and talk to her in front of the customers. And she's rinsing me in front of these customers, like shouting at me in front of these customers. And I thought that was like weird. And then I was like about to cry and I'm like, you know what? I quit.

- He said it, he said it. - I'm going for a smoke break. I'm gonna take my smoke break. - My mom was so pissed off at me. She was like, you have like, 'cause I'd actually been accepted for the other job. I had a whole like a month and a half left before I start the other job. She's like, I can't believe you quit a month and a half before your next job, Connor. Like that's really like, what the fuck? And I was like, mom, you don't understand how awful this was. - It's McDonald's. - Yeah, and like she was just chewing me out in front of these customers. And like, I was just like, I don't,

I'm not being paid enough to be humiliated in front of these random people. Right? Like, I don't, I don't come on, man. Like I am so fucking young. - Did you smile the entire time? - No, I was like, I was just sitting there like, okay. - Show the smile as you're getting rinsed. - And as she was just doing, I'm like, all right, you know what? Fuck it, I quit. Like I quit. I'm done. I'm done. Like, I'm not doing this. I'll finish this shift, but I'm done after this. I'm not doing this. - Yeah. - I never heard from them again. And then,

- Yeah, I went there like three years later after I'd like been killing it on YouTube. And then the manager, the one who's a dickhead was like, "What are you doing now Connor?"

- Well, I'm kind of- - What didn't you want to know? - Well, you know, I just got back from LA. I went to visit my friends in Japan. I was just making, you know, I work when I want, make my own hours. It's great. - You should have just been like, "Oh, I eat at Burger King pretty regularly." - Just fill my tax rates. Damn, did you know the tax rate's so high when you earn so much money? Dude, damn, that shit, that hurts, man. I'm sure. - Anyway, can I have a McFlurry?

- I mean, some of them were nice, but yeah, everyone was an asshole. - Yeah, I mean like working in retail is like, this isn't a diss at anyone who works in retail, but it is- - It's hard, man. - As someone who has worked in retail before, you know, a lot of people in college or in high school that get their first job normally works in retail and it's normally just to fuel whatever hobby they have or, you know- - Just stick up for yourself, man. That's like this thing that I wish I did. Like I wish I like,

just didn't roll over because I was very obedient as a kid and I didn't really like, I was always just taught like whatever the elders or the person in charge says. - Yeah, exactly. - They know best, right? I don't know what the fuck I was doing at McDonald's. Like what the fuck was I doing? Like I had no idea what I was doing half the time. I just did shit. And I, dude, oh my God. I used to spend like, when they were like, go and get some fries out of the freezer. I used to spend like 10 minutes just sitting in there. 'Cause I was like, fuck dude.

What am I doing, man? And it's so hot in the kitchen that when you get to the, you're like, who's gonna get the fries? - You just had a fucking existential crisis. Just getting fries. - The McDonald's freezer has become like a panic room. - I would literally just go there for like five, 10 minutes, as long as I could get away with it and just sit there and be like, fuck.

- Imagine if you open up the freezer, there's like three other employees in there. - Just like everyone's just hiding in the freezer. - I was so jealous there was this one dude and his whole job was just moving the crates into the like freezer and that was his whole job. And I'm like, I want that guy's job. Fuck being in front of the deep fryer, man. That made my acne so bad. - Oh, I bet. - Fuck man. - I remember when I worked at co-op, there would be all these odd jobs that I wish I could get. Like there would be...

one guy's job was just to fucking go outside and collect all the trolleys that people have taken to their cars. - Oh my God, I want that. - That's so nice because you don't have to interact with anybody, right? That's the best job. - 'Cause I was always on the till, right? And my least favorite part of the job was when anyone would try to make small talk. And I'm just like, "Look, I'm just here to fucking scan your food and take your money. Why are you trying to talk to me? I don't give a shit about how your day is going."

- Nope. - I got that smile talk as well. 'Cause like when they talk to you, you gotta smile and you gotta be having a good day no matter what's going on. And I just be like, I don't know. I didn't have like any bad experiences with the customers, but I mean, yeah, I had some like fucking awful managers as well. - What's up with those cashiers, right? Where they would like take fucking joy out of IDing you. What's up with that?

You know what I mean? Like if you ever get that- - Finally my power. - It's like literally like I'm being pulled over by the cops and I do you for like a beer. It's like, "I do you please." - Because at that moment in time, they have all the power. - Yeah, they have the power. They're like, "Look at you."

- Nice address, that's a nice area to live in. - I hate that, every time, 'cause in Australia, whenever you go to a bottler or when you go to the liquor store, they have to ID everybody, even if you clearly look like- - In the UK, it's challenge 25, I think is the name. - I remember, I went to a bottler with my dad once and my dad got ID'd.

And I remember like, he was like, obviously they ID'd me 'cause I was like 22 or whatever, right? Like obviously. But then the guy looked at my dad and was like, "ID please?" My dad straight up said, "You fucking kidding me? "Do you know how many gray hairs I have on my face?" I was like, "Of course I'm not fucking 20 years old." And the kid was like, "All right, fair enough." Yeah, I hate that though. Like it's the movement of looking down at your ID and then just looking at you with your eyes like this.

- Yeah. - It's that movement. I'm like, what is this fucking LA Noire? - I would hate the process whenever I was working in co-op and I had to ask for ID. 'Cause I was 16 at the time as well. For me, it just felt wrong asking someone for ID when I was obviously like younger than them. So anytime I'd have to ask for ID, it'd be like the most nervous stutter. Like it would be like, it was as if like the power dynamic was like the other way around. So I'd be like,

"Can I have your ID please?" And honestly, like if they gave him their ID, I'm just like, "Okay, they're probably over age." - Oh my God. - I don't have the balls to ask my manager to come check this man. - Can you check this guy's ID please?

- If they've gone through all the trouble of getting the fake ID, just give it to them. - Yeah, exactly. - Yeah, fuck it, why not? - No, it was like, remember your 18th birthday though? The first time you go to buy like a fucking bottle of beer. - And admittedly, I don't remember my 18th birthday for numerous reasons. - I don't remember what I did, but I do remember being like, yeah, being able to finally buy a bottle. - I remember that first pint or that first beer that I got. And it was like the biggest fucking empowering power trip that I've like,

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- So anyway, let's move on to the actual topic. - That was a very long tangent. - 50 minute tangent, only on Trash Tank. - I've seen the subreddit. People are like, "Just make a whole episode of tangents." - That's kind of what just happened, right? We went from anime sales to McFlurries to McDonald's. - One can argue like, what is even the tangent anymore?

- I was going through my bag, my like, 'cause you just have like fucking papers in your bag that just crushed down that you're like, "What the fuck is in this shit?" Then you finally like claw it out and you're like, "God, that's disgusting." But I pulled one out and it was like an Anime Expo pamphlet from when I went to Anime Expo. - Really? - And I was like,

- I miss anime expo so much. - I miss anime conventions period. - So much man. - I miss large crowds. - I miss getting sick from all the people fucking coughing and sneezing on you. - I never thought I'd miss "Con Flu". - God, I just wanna be sneezed on and don't worry about dying.

- I just want a handshake with like the sweatiest weebs. - I want a hug that's a little too damp for my liking. - I wanna put a hand on my shoulder and the shoulder is like really wet for some reason. - I miss going into the gaming room and just feeling like the dampness of the atmosphere. Like the fucking, I don't know what it is about the gaming room. - It's all the men from all the players accumulating. - It's all the game of you.

- Every fucking room needs its own weather report. You know what I mean? Like a humidity report. - Smash room, cloudy today. - There's always mushrooms growing in that room. - 92% humidity. - Yeah, but let's talk about the actual topic of this episode, which is funny or weird convention stories. - Just conventions period. - Just conventions. - Because like I've been seriously craving conventions. - Honestly, I never thought I would miss conventions. - I need it. - Yeah.

- I think I hit a new low the other day, guys, 'cause being stuck in the country, you know, I'm very used to, you know, flying out and going to conventions and stuff. So like Casey Neistat video started getting recommended to me of like him sitting in like first class seats. - Oh, I saw you in the Emirates one. - Yeah, and then I watched one and then I watched the entire series 'cause I just missed the feeling of being in an airplane. So I'm just like,

- God, I wish that was me right now. - It is share reclining. Oh God, it's so uncomfortable. I miss it. I miss it so much. - Every time Sydney comes in to be like, "Oh, beef please."

- It's like, this is fun. I remember, I think it was, I don't remember if it was last episode or the episode before, but you were talking about like, this is the longest period I've ever been like, that I've spent not being on a plane. And so many comments in the subreddit being like, wow, that was the most privileged thing Connor's ever said. - Yeah, it's true, I did think that.

- But it's true. - No, because even, I didn't come from a very privileged background, but it's just part of coming from an international background, I would say, because I mean, I'm full, like my full blood is Thai, but I was raised in England. So any chance we could get to fly back home to Thailand, we did. And that was just part of my life. Every year I'd go back and visit grandma and visit my family again. - Plus Sydney's from-

- Good privilege to flack to go on. - I'm not privileged, I'm blessed. - Yeah, but like, I don't know, like just,

it made me miss like this year with just the lack of conventions, because I thought at least that like maybe there might be like some smaller conventions that we could go to here because in the back of my head, like just the other day I was like- - Is it the same though in Japan? Like I miss the kind of scummy atmosphere that American cons have. - Oh no, no, of course. But I mean like I've been to a few, yeah, I get that. But I mean, I've been to a few conventions in Japan and it's still pretty fucking fun because like just the other day in the back of my head, I was like, well, I'm probably stuck in Japan until what, at least like end of April, I think the Japanese government said. So in my head I was like,

oh, that means I can go to winter Comiket, finally. But then,

But then I was like, wait, can basis aren't going on. The one time I can go to winter comic and winter comic it's not happening. - Exactly. - It fucking sucks. - All the stories I heard about comic is just basically it's you go in and you buy the merchandise or buy the or whatever and then you leave. - That's what I heard. - I mean, it's not like the convention experience that we have in America. - Think of anime expo or any convention but the entire convention is the artist alley.

That's what Comiket is. It's just a

a stupid amount of just tables and desks where dojo artists are selling their dojos. - Honestly though, honestly, I remember when you first go to conventions, right? I remember like the first convention you go to, I try to go to every panel. I'd have a fucking full on schedule where I'm really like, okay, this is the time to go to the panel. This is the time I'm gonna hit like the artist alley. This is gonna be the time where I hit up like the convention floor and everything. And now you go to enough conventions and you're just like,

- Whatever man. - I've never been to a panel that isn't my friends or my own. - Yeah, me neither. - I've never like just seen a panel and been like, "That looks fun, I'll go." Like I just don't, like I'd rather eat.

- Eating's great. - Like I'm not gonna hang out with people. - Now my favorite place to go in the actual convention is probably the Artist Alley. 'Cause the Artist Alley, when I first started going was the place that I never hit up. And then now you go to enough conventions and you live in Japan as well. And you go to like the main hall and most of the stuff you can find in the main hall is like synonymous across all the conventions. But I feel like Artist Alley is where you find all the actual cool shit.

- That's the thing, right? It's like the only, usually with conventions, the only thing about a convention a lot of the times that's completely different to any other convention is the artist alley. Because you'll always find some fucking artist or whatever where it's just like, oh shit, I've never seen that before. Because you go down like to the regular thing and as you said, it's like, oh, I could just fucking buy this in Akihabara for like a third of the price. - Yeah, exactly. - It's like, what's the point?

And the thing is, especially being on trash days, I've realized how limited my wardrobe is. Like cycling through all the t-shirts I have because most of the time, every time I go to an anime convention, I buy like two or three t-shirts from the artist alley. So just because I haven't gone to the conventions this year, I haven't been able to recycle any of my new clothes or anything like that. - I saw a comment that was like, oh my God, Connor's wearing the same shirt that he wore in episode like two. And it's like episode 19. I'm like,

How many fucking shirts do you own? Do you expect me to throw them away when I'm done? - I still haven't worn the same shirt yet. Because now that it's getting colder, I can finally bust out my long sleeves. I'm like, thank God. I was about to run out of my long short sleeve t-shirts. - I wore one shirt like a lot recently and I got a fucking comment that was like, why are you always wearing that shirt? And I'm like, you never heard of a fucking laundry machine? Washing machine? Like what the fuck? What do you mean? Like why am I always wearing the same shirt? - It's like what? Do you wear a shirt once and you throw it away? - Do you not wash your shirts? I'm confused. Why is this weird? I don't understand.

- Yeah, but I mean like that's all they say, right? A week span on trash taste might as well just be a day to them. - Yeah, it's made me self-conscious about just how many clothes I have in my wardrobe and how many shirts I can get away with without recycling the same thing too many times that people can notice. - Yeah, right? Especially with you because you very rarely like actually make a physical appearance in your videos,

- Yeah, exactly. Normally I don't care about this shit. Normally I'm just a fucking disembodied voice. - I mean, who knows like Garnt might be butt naked when he's fucking filming the audio for you, you never know.

- I like to hope so. Anyway, anyway, back to conventions. - Yes, this is the answer by the way. Back to conventions. All right, I mean, fuck, what should we talk about questions? Funny stories? - I mean, like just, I guess memorable stories. It doesn't necessarily have to be funny, but just like some memorable stories. - We do like a convention survival guide.

- Oh, okay, yeah, sure, sure, sure. - I'm sure we can have stories that like- - I don't know, I feel like, you know, here's the real privilege, lads. I've only gone to like one convention, like not as like a guest or like before I was a YouTuber essentially. So I feel like my experience of cons is like vastly different from other people's. 'Cause like, I feel like as an attendee, AX is like, I don't know.

- I don't get it. - Here he goes. - Because, okay, when you hear the lines are like five hours to get in, and I mean, let's be honest, we can apply for the badge that just lets us like walk right in. We can just walk right in. - We can just jump right into it. - Yeah, we can jump right into it. - Jump right into the pit. - I'm not gonna lie, if you told me I had a line of five hours to get an AX, I'd be like, nah, I'm going home. I'm going home.

what I don't understand about some people at AX is the people who are willingly waiting three hours to get to a panel. - Oh, fuck that. - Or like a premiere or something like that. And I'm just thinking, you know, I like anime.

- But that shit's gonna be out on Crunchyroll in like a month. I can wait a month, you know what I mean? I don't need to be at the premiere unless it's like, you know, I get a pass or something. - What was it, the "My Hero Academia" movie last year or the year before had like a four hour line or something? Something ridiculous like that. I'm like, guys, it's gonna be out on Crunchyroll in like two weeks. - The only reason I watched the premiere movie was because someone from,

G kids and trigger got me. I was like, I'm not cute in four hours. Are you kidding me? No way. I don't care. Like it could be like the second coming of Christ. And I'm like five hour line. Nah, get out of here, man. - Do you know how many chick filets I can get in that time? - You know how many beers I can drink in five hours? Like, come on, man. Like, I can have a good time in five hours. - You could just go down to the fucking bar or pub, which is what I spend most of my time doing now at conventions. Just like talking to different people and catching up with different people.

That to me is the real convention experience. There's the convention itself. But after I'd say about two conventions, I was like, I'd just rather just talk to people and just talk to other anime fans rather than going to the actual convention itself. - Do you ever try and get people in to stuff with you if they don't have like the badge? - Oh yeah, all the time. - Yeah, I love like seeing like, right, bullshit, right, okay.

- Yeah, no, he's with me. He's with me. He's part of the family. He's just got his badge. - VIP access, come on. You're with me. - You really gotta- - It's like my friend, what's your name again? John? Yeah, John. - Sometimes you have like four friends and you're like, "Fuck, here we go. "I gotta try and bullshit all of this." Yeah, they're all part of the Japanese,

- Yeah, security guards. - You gotta finger some bullshit on the thing and then like- - I have four managers. - You gotta hope, 'cause the problem is with some conventions, like I guess their problem is, not my problem, good thing for me. They have so many volunteers, the volunteers don't know shit. So you can just bullshit to them.

- Yeah, no, no, no, with me, that's cool, it's cool. Go around, get around. - If anything at Anime Expo, I've found that there's always at least one volunteer who knows who I am. - Yeah, they'll let you in, they'll let you in. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. They'll let me in, they're like, "Oh, Anime Man, fuck off." "Yeah, come in, bro, come in." "Oh yeah, the five other people behind you." "Yeah, come in, fuck it." You're probably friends with them, right? - You're the last to take a picture with you while you're like smuggling your friend.

It's like, I feel bad. - But I think one thing to like nail down is the difference between Anime Expo and basically every other convention. - Yeah, Anime Expo is a different thing entirely. - Anime Expo exists in its own bubble. And I think like everyone should experience Anime Expo like once. 'Cause it's kind of like, it's not even a convention at this point. It's kind of like a convention and a business expo all at once, you know what I mean?

So you kind of get a little bit of everything and a little bit of nothing as well, because if you don't plan yourself correctly, then you just end up experiencing lines. - It's a clusterfuck in every sense of the word. - I spoke to like some people who were like, yeah, is AX good? I'm planning to go alone. I'm like, do not go to AX alone. - Define good. - I'm like, you're probably gonna go to a local con alone

and probably make some mates. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Like everyone already has their group with them. - Yeah. - So it's like- - It's like you don't have enough time to hang out with the group that you have already. - Right. - Let alone hanging out with like randomers, you know what I mean? - Yeah. Fuck. I just had like so many flashbacks of hanging out with random people that were terribly wrong. 'Cause okay, you've all been there, right? Everyone goes to convention, right? - Yeah. - Yeah. - You know, you've got to decide, I really want to go to this convention, but fuck hotel rooms are expensive. - Right, right. - So it's like,

how many people can I fit in this hotel room to reduce it to a point where I'm comfortable, right? And I think we said this on one podcast where like, if you're in charge of the booking, you get dibs on the bed, right? So that's why I always used to be in charge of the bookings. I'm like, I'm getting the bed. I'm getting the best bed. I'm getting the key. - All you guys are getting the floor. - 'Cause oh my God, if the hotel doesn't ask you how many keys you want, it's like, there's two keys between six of you. And it's like, how do we- - How do we distribute that? - How do we decide who gets a key?

- The person with the key has the power. - Yeah, exactly. - 'Cause you can come and go as you want. 'Cause there's nothing worse than just sitting there with all your bags, being like calling up your mate, not fucking picking up and you're like, "I wanna go back to the hotel room, answer me you cunt." - Like mobile service in the convention is fucking awful. - Oh my God. - It's non-existent. - It's non-existent. You just basically gotta pretend you're back in like the fucking 18th century. Like how do I contact Joey? Especially when you're in America, we don't have American friends.

- I don't have a British phone either. Like I have a contract to my British phone that gives me American service, which is usable in most places. - I just buy another SIM. - In most places, but in like a convention you are getting like zero fucking service. - It's like a fucking Greek marathon, right? You have to like ask someone to like, can you run to the other side of the convention and tell Joey that I'm here? It's like, all right, I'll see you soon. - Have you ever stayed in a room with people who you're like, fuck, I regret staying in a room with them?

- Yeah, but I'm not gonna name names. - You can't name your name? - All right, fine. - I can't name my names.

But I mean, you stayed with some discord people, right? - Yeah, I stayed with a bunch of people on discord. - And that always goes well. - That was a fucking nightmare. - That sounds like a nightmare. - I was like the pseudo leader of the group. And there was just so many fucking problems. And this is also when I just started YouTube and I hadn't formally met, I'd met you, no, I'd met Sydney. Didn't get to see you, but we were gonna hang out, we already planned to, and I hadn't met you yet, had I? - I don't think so.

This was kind of like, I don't know, I was gonna make mates. I was planning to hang out with you guys for the majority of it. - Oh, was this the first AX that you spent most of your time with us? I remember that. - So I had told the people I was staying with like, "Hey, this is like straight up just like a room thing. Like I'm gonna be hanging out with other people like for like 99% of this." Told them that many times.

I think like one of them like didn't quite get the memo and he was like really hoping that I would introduce him to like everyone and be like, "Yo, he's my best mate, he's, hey." And the problem was, he was a fucking creep. So like, I didn't really wanna hang out with him.

And it wasn't like, at first he was a little strange, you know, he was an American and he was like a military dude. And in my experience, military dudes are like 50/50 on whether they're like totally chill or just fucking psychotic. - I actually totally agree. I've met so many military dudes and there is no in between. - There's no in between. - Either they're a fucking psycho or they're the most chillest dude you can ever imagine. - Everywhere I've met, it's always like that. It's like, no, they're like no chill.

So he's like kind of nice, you know, he's whatever, he's a little weird. And then like one time I remember I met you at a party and then like he was texting me the whole time. And I think I mentioned where I was. And as we're leaving this party, do you remember this? - Yeah, I remember this. - We go outside and he's waiting there at like 1:00 AM. He's like, "Hey Connor, how you doing man? Can I join?" And we're like getting an Uber and I'm like, "No man, we're getting an Uber somewhere else. I'm really sorry, man." 'Cause like, it's like, how do you introduce

it's like kind of creepy. - Yeah. - Everyone's already seen that he's waiting outside and it's really creepy and it's like- - It's the over enthusiasm, right? - 'Cause the thing about anime conventions that's so difficult for a lot of people to like wrap their heads around is just like, what is socially acceptable? You know what I mean?

- Social rules are thrown out the window at convention. - When you don't know someone, I think it's like a social rule where you shouldn't be bringing your friends in, like unless you have like a reason to. But if you don't like, okay, 'cause if you bring someone into a friend group and that guy's an asshole or a creep. - That's on you. - That's on you, I brought him in. And I didn't know him. And I got kind of signs that he was a bad guy.

- Yeah. - And so I didn't want to bring him in. Cause I was like, if I bring him to this party and he starts like fucking chatting up giga call night, like, "Hey man, I love your videos. "Can we take a pic? "Can I smell your penis?" Like, you know what I mean? It's like, it's like kind of looks terrible on me. So I was like, nah. - And the party was at my house. - Your Airbnb. And there was like only like 10 of us. So it was really intimate. So I told him, I was like, "Listen, man, I'm really sorry, dude. "But like, I don't really know like Garnt "or like anyone in this group pretty well. "Like I wouldn't invite you. "I just don't feel comfortable doing it." I explained to him and he was so pissed off.

- He was pissed off. - He was so pissed off. So then I came back at like 5:00 AM to my shitty hotel in like, it's the like suburbs of LA. - It was like near Koreatown, wasn't it?

- No, it was further away. It was like even like further out. It was really far out and it was really sketchy. It was like a, what was it called? It wasn't even like a holiday inn. It was one of the, even the more budget chains. - Like a motel. - It was bad. It was really bad. And at this hotel, for some reason at midnight, all the cards reset. So if you came back after midnight, you'd go to the front desk.

but the front desk wasn't open. So if you came back after midnight, you'd hope someone else is already in the room or just wait out your door till 6:00 AM till someone comes. Yeah, it's stupid. So he was in the room and he'd been like drinking alone in his room

And I felt really bad. So I'm like, "Hey man, let me in, let me in." Whatever, it's like 5:00 AM. I'm like, "Dude, I really wanna fucking sleep." So he opens the door and comes out blocking the door so I couldn't get in. I'm like, "Yo, what the fuck, man? "Let me in, I wanna sleep, it's 5:00 AM." And he's absolutely hammered. He's like, "Listen Connor,

"I thought we were cool, man. "Why didn't you let me in the party?" I'm like, "Dude, I'm so sorry, but not now, man. "It's 5:00 AM, let me sleep. "We can talk about it in the morning. "Dude, please let me sleep." And then whatever, so we slept, whatever. He finally let me in, but I thought it was weird that he, 'cause I was ignoring him. I'm not trying to open the door, he's blocking me. And I'm like, "What the fuck, man? "Let me in, it's 5:00 AM, I paid for this room. "Let me sleep."

near the end, one of the other peoples in my room who was like a lot smaller, and like, I guess he thought they were cute. And then they called me up and he's like, "Hey, he just tried to pay me to suck his dick." And I'm like, "What the fuck?"

- What the fuck? I'm like, what is happening in this hotel room? - What? Yikes. - And then I was like, I am so fucking glad I didn't introduce you to any of my friends. If you're going around asking people to suck your dick for money, are you kidding me? So needless to say, I went to the hotel room and just explained to him like, hey, what the fuck man? Don't do that you asshole. Like, this is my friend, don't make them uncomfortable. And then he didn't do anything. And he stayed somewhere else for like the last night. 'Cause I was like, dude, don't stay in this room with them.

And so I've never stayed with any random people on Discord that I've never met before ever again. - I've heard so many horror stories from Discord. I don't know what it is about Discord. And I'm gonna call it like the Discord hotel room. Those never ever go right. Like I've, 'cause even like the best you can do is have like a little bit of drama.

But there's never zero drama. Nobody ever comes out there with just like, yeah, everyone was just chill. We had the most chillest time. Everyone was understanding everything. - What is it that everything that's planned on Discord just ends up horrible? - What is it about that? - It's 'cause you can't like really know who's weird on Discord. Like the problem is, is that you don't really know how weird people are until you meet them. - Yeah, exactly. - You also- - It's doubly true on Discord as well, where you're here for this server, which is like solely where you talk about this one,

you know, common interest or whatever. And you rarely talk about your own personality. - I just don't understand the mentality though of like looking at a discord group and being like, okay, there's three other people in here.

never seen their faces. - I didn't care. - Never met them before. I'm gonna stay in a room with them overnight. - 'Cause I was broke, Joey, what you want from me? - At least like, you know, hang out with them outside. - I understand to all the convention girls out there who have done the same thing as me 'cause you're broke as fuck. Like, you gotta do what you gotta do. And plus I knew I could take care of myself. Like, I know I'm fine. Like, I didn't worry, but I, you know, when I hear like,

18 year old girls that do it. And I'm like, whoa, with like with dudes. - Yeah. I'm like, that's just calling for a disaster. - I mean, like it's a recipe for disaster, right? Because I've only stayed in, I've only gone to conventions after I have had like a, no, like after I had a full-time job.

So like, even if it wasn't like a great paying job, at least I could just afford my own hotel room and stuff like that. Like just a really cheap motel room. You know what I mean? But if I had gone before I was like, say 21, 22, when I was just a broke uni student or just,

God forbid, like before even uni, I can imagine so many horrible situations that could have arose. - Right, right, right. - Which kind of like, there's no real way to protect yourself around that, especially if you're just rooming with random people on Discord, which is such a coin flip. - And I would argue like, is the anime con really that worth it?

- Yeah. - Yeah, it makes sense. - Honestly, you know what? All that weird shit that happened aside that I don't think I told you guys that ever, but I mean all of that weird shit aside that I had to deal with, I'll fucking do it again, easy.

- Yeah, but you can fucking do anything. - No, I mean, that was fun. I mean, like the convention was fun. - I mean, the convention was fun. - That was a nuisance, but you know, I mean, it's nice exercise in knowing that I can tell someone to fuck off, you know? I don't know what, I mean, it is what it is. I knew that when I did that, there was a chance that it could go horribly wrong and it did go horribly wrong. And I learned my lesson and I'm not doing that again.

- You said you would if you had the chance. - No, I mean, I understand if, you know, when you're like 18, you got like 200 bucks max to your name. The fucking ticket is 50 bucks. You gotta get that hotel room down to a hundred bucks somehow. It doesn't matter how many people gotta go in that room. - You gotta divide the room with the amount of bodies that will fit in it. You know what I mean? If you need to sleep on the floor, you sleep on the floor. People who sleep on the bed, they pay a premium. - It makes it sound like a fucking human trafficking. - It is a human, have you ever been

- You're going to a fucking convention room, Joey? Jesus Christ. Like a fucking bomb could go up in there and it would be less messy than it is with just like the amount of like, and if you got a cosplayer in there, say goodbye to floor space. Say goodbye to fucking floor space. - For some reason they are allergic to closing their fucking suitcase. It has to be wide open the whole fucking time. Can't close it. Okay, fine.

- Yeah, I don't know. I mean, it's whatever. You should try it sometime. - No, thank you. I can afford my own hotel room. I'm good, dude. - For the frills, dude, fucking roll that dice, dude. Just go with it, dude. - Gotta get your thrill somehow, right? - Okay, I don't know. I like...

I know this sounds like super, I guess it sounds weird or dangerous to some people. I'd love just meeting new people in that kind of way. - I mean, look, I don't mind meeting new people either, but- - I don't mind meeting a new person for the first time in my hotel room. - I don't wanna pull a gotcha role where I might end up sleeping with a fucking murderer. - I don't mind that. I'll take that off. You might get the fucking coolest friend for life by doing that. - There's other ways to meet cool friends for life, man. - But you get that fucking story if we met in an anime convention. - That's what I'm saying. You'll do anything for content. - I love stories.

- Spoken like a true YouTuber. - I just know, I don't even think of it as content. I just love like the idea of like making a friend through such a weird and unconventional way. Like I feel like it makes such a good friendship. I don't know.

- I mean, again, but that's another coin flip though. - I feel like I'm somewhere in the middle of both of you here. 'Cause like, I do like meeting new people and everything like that. And I used to be that guy who was just like up for anything and be like, yeah, I'll go meet you down at like a dark alleyway, whatever. But like, I've had like enough bad experiences to be like, you know what? Maybe I'll do like a, just a little bit of a background check before I jump right into it, you know? - Yeah.

- Yeah. Oh my God. Yeah, I've met so many people on Discord who've turned out to be really sketchy. - Yeah. - You just gotta,

- There's a lot of dudes on Discord who like underage girls and you just gotta call that shit out when you see any signs of it, man. - Yeah, I feel like a lot of, especially in an anime conventions, a lot of people, especially obviously like anime fans and weeds and everything, they don't have the confidence to confront people when they see some shit happening. So I feel like with a lot of convention stories that I've heard, it's mostly boiled down to people just didn't know how to handle the situation, right? 'Cause they've never seen it happen in front of them.

And so the first time you experience it, you just, you kind of just freeze up to be like, what is this? Is this happening now? Is this happening now? You know what I mean? And no matter what you tell yourself you're going to do at that moment, you're totally unprepared for that moment. So I would say like the best advice I could give is if you see anything bad happening, like don't let that shit lie, call it out. - Also, especially if they're your friends. Like I know a lot of people who are like, it's hard to like, you know, bollock your friend and be like, dude, what the fuck?

but you gotta call that shit out. It's like, if you let it slide, they'll just keep doing it. - We gotta stamp the shit out of our community 'cause we saw what happened to the Smash community, right? And I don't know what's happened behind the scene of the anime community. I don't wanna imagine it because I wasn't part of the community when,

some of the worst stories I've heard happened behind the scenes. - I mean, yeah, with like the Seattle YouTuber that I used to do stuff with and I've had people on Discord who I considered friends who later on found out that they like did some fucking horrible stuff. And like, honestly, they were like, you know, there were signs and I just ignored it. 'Cause I was like, oh, well, I mean,

I think that, you know, they're just quirky. They're not gonna hurt anyone. Like you just gotta call that shit out when you see it, unfortunately. So if your friend, even if it's your friend, please call them out. - Especially if it's a friend, you know, only through the internet. 'Cause you know, we, I mean, we all met through the internet, right? But I mean, we've also met in real life and we've hung out so many times before I've really,

knew your guys' real personality and everything like that, right? So if it's some guy or some girl you've met through the internet, especially if you Discord or something, and you've only talked to them through the internet, meeting friends, making friends on the internet is completely fine. But understand...

that's totally different from being a friend IRL. And until you've hung out IRL a few times, you really can't have a true grasp of their personality and what they might be like. - And that's why it's always such a gamble, right? Like when you meet again, like when you meet that person on discord and then you,

be like, all right, let's go to a convention together. And you're hanging out with a completely different person. This is like, oh, you weren't like this when we were chatting on Discord. What the fuck? And I've had a lot of experiences like that where I would be talking to someone online and then I'd be like, oh, you're going to AX? Oh, I'm going to AX as well. Let's meet up and hang out. And then I talk to them, I'm like,

- Wow. You aren't what I expected at all. - Yikes. - Yeah, you are not the same person I texted two days ago. - Man, fuck. - For better or worse. Sometimes they're way cooler in real life, sometimes they're just like, oof, in real life. - And there's so many social norms that you, like,

- I don't know why. - I thought of all the dumb shit that's happening. - Common sense just doesn't seem to like make sense. Like common sense just isn't common in anime conventions, right? Especially when it comes to like meeting people and stuff. 'Cause you talked about, you talked about, you know, the introducing the one friend to like your friend group or something. What happens if you're like, you're going to this party, right?

And you can be like, okay, you can bring like this one friend that you might've kind of want to introduce, but they're with a group of like five, six people. And they're like, can you like get all these people in as well? And you're like, what is it about these people who are like, oh, plus one? Oh, so plus one group of friends, right? Like that's what it means? Yeah, all right, cool. I got like seven people coming. - It's hard 'cause obviously you don't want to be like, yeah, you know, only one person can come in, but you also gotta have the balls to just suddenly be like, all right, mates,

I've got the sick invitation from a guy. I'm gonna go to that. I hope you all understand. Like, that's what I would be like. I'd be like, "Hey man, I got an opportunity "that I don't really come across often. "Can I take it? "Please don't be mad at me." - Yeah. - I think it's just understanding that it's a convention. People, you know, you're not always gonna hang out with the same friend group all the time. - Right, right, right, right. - So I feel like if you,

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I mean, I should tell the story as it happened in order. - Okay. - Naturally. So I'm just finished with a panel, right? You know, killed it. Answered all these questions like a boss. - Yeah. - Haven't heard that phrase in a while. - Wow. - Was this 2004? - Yeah, right. So, and then when you're done with the panel, you're like, all right, I'll take pictures outside, you know, at the line. So I'm taking pictures and the first one comes up, first girl.

14, 13 and I'm taking a picture and she's like smiling like, "Hey, by the way, can I grab your ass?" And I'm like- - Oh, this one. - Yeah, I'm like,

- What do you mean? Do you know what you just said little girl? And she was like, and I was like, no, I think no, no. Why would you ask that? Okay, whatever. So, and then, you know, next picture, fine. Next picture, fine. And as I'm taking this next picture, I feel this like grip.

like tightening on my ass. - This grip gets like fucking iron clad on my ass. And I'm like turning around, I'm like, "Hey, what the fuck?" And I was in awe because I turned around and she's just like this. And I'm like, "What are you doing in my head?" I'm like, "Uh," 'cause I'm like, "How the fuck do I react to this?" I didn't like swatter away like a fly. - Be gone! - What?

And so I was like, what the, so she grabbed it. And then I, when I turned around, she fucking ran off. - Yeah. - I was like, what the fuck? And I'm looking at the guy who was helping me do my panel. I'm like, yo, what the fuck was that? And he's like, dude, what the fuck? And he went to go like go after her, like to like tell her off. But she went. - How many years ago was this? - It was like three or four. - Was this at MCM? - No, this was like a really small London one, a tiny one. - 'Cause like a similar thing happened to me at like some of the, one of the early MCMs, right? - Right, right, right. - And I was, so I was having a meetup

And it was like one of my very first meetups and it was just as I'd like, just after I started dating Sid. So it was like Sydney's first UK anime convention as well.

And so I was having this meetup and we were taking pictures and everything. And then this girl comes to take a picture and you can immediately tell that she was not respecting my personal boundaries. She was very, very touchy feeling. - The worst. - Yeah. And Sydney's like raise eyes, laser in on it immediately, right? Immediately. I could feel like the death glare on this girl without having to look at Sydney, right? - Like in the middle of the fucking like Harry Potter Voldemort.

- So I know that Sydney's watching everything and she's like being really touchy feely. And I'm just like, I'm trying to just be like, okay, you know, I have my personal boundaries. I'll take a picture and everything. And so we go in for the picture and she like goes on for like a full on hug. It's like, I'm just there being like the,

And she just grabs me like that, hugs me. And then I didn't need to see what Sydney's face was, but I could feel it. I could feel it. And then afterwards I'm like, oh yeah, thank you people for coming to my meetup. And she goes in for a fucking kiss.

And I had to like turn my cheek. I like, I turned my cheek in time, but she goes for my mouth and then I turn it to- - What, you went for your mouth? - And she hits my cheek. And then I just hear Sydney, like I've never heard Sydney make this noise ever again, but she fucking hissed. - Like a fucking snake. - She's like, "Snail."

- What does that do? - I don't know. And then same as your girl, she just fucking runs off before I could say anything. And I'm just like, what just happened? What am I supposed to do in this situation? - You know what the worst part was? When I got home that day, I go on fucking Twitter and she replied to my tweet being like, "Hi, I'm the girl who grabbed your ass. It felt good." And I was like, first of all- - And then you were like, block. - First of all, thank you. Second of all, what the fuck? What the fuck?

I was like, you know that's, I would probably be like, "Dude, that was super fucking inappropriate. "Why did you do that?" And she was like, "Oh, I didn't realize." I'm like- - I didn't realize? - What the fuck, you didn't realize? - What kind of family were you raised in where it's like, "Oh yes, hello." - What are they doing? Like fucking measuring your firmness every fucking day? Why would you do that shit? - What year was this? - Oh shit, this must have been like 2000.

- Fuck, 16, 17? - That's the thing, right? It's like, I feel like, 'cause I have a similar story that happened around that time. - You do? What the fuck? - Yeah. - 'Cause my mom's in about 2000. - We all fucking survived something here, god damn. - Mine was around like 2017, it was at AX and this is,

I had just like started going out with Aki, but this is before we went public. So this was like the convention that I met Aki and that's like two days, like literally two days after we decided like, oh yeah, let's start going out. And we were doing a signing together. This fucking girl comes up to me and she's dressed in like, I think it was like or something, but she had like a giant wand, right? Like a massive like staff. And she puts it down and she's like, hi Joey. And I'm like, oh no, it's one of these kinds of girls. All right, hey, what's up?

And she's like, "Can you sign the stuff?" I'm like, "Yeah, sure." And I start signing it. And then she's like, "Also, here's a question, but can I be your Anime Expo waifu?" And I just kind of stopped and- - How to trigger a flight of fire to me. Jesus Christ. - And the moment she said that, I just kind of stopped and just looked up. I was like, "Could you say that again, please?"

'Cause in my head I'm starting to panic. And same with Sydney, right? I could feel the fucking glare of hockey right on my fucking neck. Like I didn't even have to look over. I'm like, I know you're staring at me. And of course, right? I have the pressure from here and the pressure right in front of me, right? There's two women staring at me for totally different reasons.

I just fucking panicked. I couldn't like, 'cause at that point I was like, I couldn't say like, yeah, sure jokingly because my woman is fucking glaring at me. - There's no right to answer in that situation. - But I also couldn't say no, right? Because I don't want to hurt her feelings. And she lined up all this time to like meet me. And so I just fucking panicked and I said, I don't know, I got ranks. - Oh my God, Joey. You didn't have to murder her like that. - She's like, I got ranks.

And then she replied back being like, "Then can I come to the top of the ranking?" And I said- - Bro, you gotta learn to give up, man. - Yeah, and I was like, "I don't know, man, it takes time." I was just bullshitting the entire time. And the moment, and she's like, "Oh, okay, no worries." Again, tried to go in for a kiss and I just fucking dodged that shit. So she only got me on the cheek and then she walked off. And then Aki under her breath was like, "What did you mean by ranks?"

I'm sorry, I'm panicked. What are you supposed to say in that situation? - There is no right answer. - There is no right answer, but I definitely said the most incorrect answer. - That was definitely the wrong answer. - I felt so bad.

- Just politely decline them and be like, "Oh, thank you, but no." - I know, but I was at that stage where I really couldn't say no. It was at that point where I didn't know any better. That was probably my second or third signing session ever. - You mean like the story I told with Sydney where you don't know how to react in this situation. - Yeah, you don't know how to react because you don't wanna make them upset because they lined up all this time. You're like, "Oh, you fucking lined up for me? "I'm not anything special."

- That was at the point as well where like any absurd thing that they would request, I would just fucking do it just to make them happy. So I remember like at this like Canada convention, the first dude that came up to me was like, "Can you sign my ass?" And I'm like, "Oh, okay." And like, I thought it was like just his pants, right? This guy fully fucking ducks like his pants off. - In the middle of the convention fucking hall? - First dude in the line plants his bare ass on the table and was like, "Sign here."

Did you fucking wipe down this table afterwards? - I mean, yeah, I mean, you know, there's a bottle of hand sanitizer at any sign anything. I just fucking empty that shit out.

- That's so disgusting. - I know. - I think I would vomit on his ass. - Yeah. So like I signed him making sure not to actually touch his ass, like with my hand. And I did it. I was like- - I need one of those like garbage picking up things and just like, fuck it. - The tongs? - Yeah, the tongs like from far away. Like a radioactive suit on. - But you know that again, like that was the point where- - What is wrong with anime fans? - I don't know. - What the fuck?

- And like same convention as the guy who planted his ass. There was another girl who came up and she looked really fucking- - Jesus, what convention was this? - I think this is Otaku Thon in Montreal. And this girl like came up, looked and sounded really fucking normal, right? Until she said, "Can you sign my arm?"

And she had like drawn out like a box for me to sign on the arm. And I'm like, oh, that's kind of weird. I'm like, I have a piece of paper. And she's like, no, no, I want you to sign my arm. So I was like, all right. I just, and I had a lot of people to go through, right? So I just fucking signed it quickly. And I'm like, oh, do you want like a piece of paper for me to sign it on? And she's like, oh no, no, it's okay. I'm getting this tattooed. And I was like-

- No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no

- Just don't do it. - I don't know what it like, but that's the thing, right? It's like, I don't know if it's because of my lack of inexperience of being in situations like that, or just the fact that conventions have gotten so much more calm in the last like five years.

or it's a combination of both because you don't hear that kind of shit like last year, right? - I mean, I feel like things are way more regulated now than it used to be because I remember first time going to conventions, some of my first signings, it was kind of like anything goes, you know what I mean? And like last year they had like a ticketing system or maybe it was a year before that where they had like a proper ticketing system. 'Cause I remember I'd be booked out to do signings for like an hour.

And then it would end up going for like two hours and a half. And there was nothing that like regulated what was okay and what wasn't okay. - I guess that's like the benefit of the big conventions, right? Is that because there are so many people and they probably know how popular you are. They're like, if your signing session is one hour, then it's fucking one hour and we're cutting off the line. - And I think also, I think people,

it's gotten more in people's ideas or in people's heads now that just because you're at an anime convention, social norms still do exist. 'Cause I remember in the before time and I can't imagine what it was like even before I started going to conventions, but it seemed like going to an anime conventions, just like all rules fell out the window. You could get away with anything. - I mean, I watched footage of like Anime Expo at like fucking 2005, right? And like, you know, that was during like the whole like glomp and like yaoi.

- Like, you know, yaoi pad thing. And I'm just like, I can't imagine fucking being there and like staying sane. I'm like, I don't wanna like walk through the convention hall with the fear that a random person is gonna jump dive at me because it's "Lol XD, Glomp." - It turns from like an anime convention to like a survival horror. It's like, who's gonna invade my personal space now? - I'm like pressing X and down on everyone. It's like, who's next? - I feel like it probably came from a place of like,

I mean, I assume that it was the one time of the year where they get to meet anime fans. And like outside of that, you probably didn't get to see them. But now, I mean, everyone's a fucking anime fan. - Right, I think that's what it is. - It's so mainstream now. - All it is now is everyone just goes to a place to buy anime merch and get drunk together. - Yeah, pretty much.

I understand that back then probably was a little over the top because this is the only fucking chance you get to be a fucking weeb. Like every other day of the year, you can't be a weeb. You get bullied. - Yeah, I feel like the golden period for me for anime conventions where it was like, you could get away with things that were like fun, but I feel like the point where it starts to get really, really regulated was around 2016 onwards-ish.

- I mean, as it should, 'cause there was so much fucking sketchy shit happening in the back. - Yeah, there was a lot of sketchy shit happening in the back. - I mean, that was around the time when the whole cosplay isn't consent thing came out, right? - Yeah, which definitely- - Which is like, why would you even need to write that out? - That is a failure on humanity. That was a rule. - Which we needed to implement this rule. - Yeah. - It's like, oh yes, I need something written down on paper to know that being overly sexual towards cosplayers is a bad thing. - Yeah, exactly right. - It's like fucking...

- Well, I remember like, 'cause I've been going to London MCM Expo for like a fair few years now. I remember when they, so to explain London MCM Expo, it's like the biggest kind of- - It's a pretty fucking terrible convention. - It's a convention in inverted commas, 'cause it's more like an, it is an expo. - It just sells you stuff and there's not really anything to do there if you're like a fan. It's kind of like you can buy stuff and pretty much all anyone does is just hang out with their friends.

- Exactly. So there's this grass bit in MC outside of the convention center, which everywhere used everywhere where everyone used to hang out. And now it's closed off. But I feel like some of my best memories were when people were just doing like the most random shit on that grass. - All the alcohol bottles. - Yeah. Were you there that year where there was, they did that fight club?

- No. - Okay. - It's a fight club? - Yeah, so, so, so. - I don't know why the mental imagery of a bunch of weebs beating each other up is hilarious. - Fucking Naruto music blasting. - No, it was a fight club, but it was like a fight club. So it was like the equivalent of a mosh pit or something like that. But I remember there was like, you know, there was obviously the usual, you know, you got the fucking Jedi's dueling it out. But I remember the funniest one I saw

there was these two anime fans. And one was like the scrawniest, shortest anime fan who was like vitamin D deficient. You know, some of us, you know, that stereotype. - Like the clearly sick man.

- Skeletor. - Skeletor. And then on the other side was the fucking biggest, he wasn't like obese, but let's say he was a big lad. He was a big lad. - Hefty fella. - Yeah, and this was like the most,

- That was the most uneven fight I had ever seen. Like forget about weight classes here, you know? - They should like start punching each other. - So I guess they just try to like make each other fall over, right? So this scrawny dude fucking full on sprints into this guy trying to like push him and he just fucking bounces off him. Like he's in like, like he's playing four guys or something, right? And then the guy just sits on him.

- That was the end of the fight. - Were they all drunk? - Yes, everyone was drunk. - Okay, okay. - It just crushes the porky. - The convention ends at like six, but that area is still full of people drinking. It's just outside. - That sounds awesome. I would love to be there. Just to be a spectator. - It's kind of Fiesta. It's kind of crazy. - It's kind of Fiesta. But now it's like a lot more controlled of what you can get away with, which it's a bit of a shame because I liked,

I liked that kind of thing. - There's literally like an off license in a Tesco within like 200 meters of it. - Oh, that's not a good idea. - People are just buying, buying, buying drinks, drinks, drinks. And it's like, it's, it's.

- And I think the hotel headaches is literally a hotel right outside. They're like, what are you doing? Why are you all fucking getting drunk? - Why is this big dude sitting on this scrawny kid? - Why is there a fight club? - I think it was that fight club that made the convention actually cordon off the grass area.

- It was worth it. Anyone who was at that MCM convention knows that that fight club was hilarious as fuck. - Yeah, that sounds fucking awesome. - Health and safety issues aside. - It is fun when you walk down to make a venture and you see something that clearly will get shut down within an hour. You're like, I'm just gonna sit and watch this shit go down. This is gonna be funny. - I see that shit even regularly at anime expo still to this day, like outside of the West Wing, you know where all the cosplays are. I see some shit there where I'm just like,

- Why? Where are the staff? Who's regulating this? - Can we talk about how fucking crazy it is meeting people who watch your videos? It's so fucking surreal. How fucking weird is that? - I never get used to it. - It's so fucking strange. - Now I have a conditioned response that I could be like, okay, this is how I should respond to fans. - Activating execution 101. Activate McDonald's smile. - But that's why getting recognized anywhere but

but conventions you're so unprepared for it because you just never get used to that feeling. 'Cause I'm just like, man, I'm just a fucking dude who talks about anime online. - I mean, it's already surprising when people at conventions like come up to you and recognize you. But what's weirder is where you're like nowhere near a fucking convention. And it's just like a random like guy or girl who's just sees you like that fucking dude in Singapore. Oh my God.

- Oh my God. - Do you wanna tell us? - Yeah, you can tell us. - Go ahead. - Okay, so we were at a Singapore convention. I think it was Anime, what was it called? Anime Festival Asia or something like that. - Yeah, AFA. - AFA, we were at AFA Singapore. And we were in this, we were outside the convention. We were like getting lunch or something. It was me, Sydney and Joey, I believe. - And Alan, I think. - And Alan, yes. So there were four of us there and we were just walking in one of the,

in just like this random shopping mall. And then we just hear this screech. This is like the loudest screech I've ever heard in my life. - It was like a banshee screech. You would have thought someone came through with like a truck and was like running people over. - Exactly.

- It immediately triggered my flight or flight, flight or flight like instincts, right? - Everybody turned around and was like, "What the fuck?" - "What the fuck's going on?" And all we see is this fucking kid bolting it towards Joey, right? And I'm like, time just fucking stopped at that moment. I'm like, "Am I about to witness my fucking friend die in front of my eyes? Is he about to get stabbed or something?"

It's like full on like assassins creating me. Like just fucking like low as fuck like this, running towards me through this giant crowd. And as the crowd is partying, you can see this kid just coming straight. I'm like, oh, he's coming for me. I'm gonna die. And because he's like Naruto running almost, I can't see his hands right. So I'm like, this guy's probably got a knife or something. Like he's about to stab me. So I'm just prepared to die. He stops like right here.

He just screeches to a halt and he says, "I love you Joey." Meanwhile poop is falling out of my pants. - Meanwhile we're just like, "Oh, okay Joey's not dead, okay." - Terrifying. - He was terrifying. - And he's like, "Can you take a photo with me?" I'm like,

- Didn't like Felix say one time, like Southeast Asian fans are like the craziest. - Yeah, they are. - In public, they just scream. - Absolutely. - Shout out to the Southeast Asian fans. - The AFA was great. It's on like a whole different level from like any convention we've been to in America. Like I remember watching Joey walk from one panel to another. It was basically like watching Justin Bieber walk through like,

- That's gotta be an ego boost though. - I mean, it felt pretty good, not gonna lie. - I love it when you're just like chilling and then like someone in the line actually was like, "Are you Joey?" And he's like, "Yeah, yeah." - I think as well, like it might've been because like that Singapore AFA was, it was a first for that convention for a lot of reasons because I think I was like the first YouTuber that had ever been invited. And also I was the first ever guest at that convention that didn't charge for signatures.

- Yeah. - Oh wow. - And like, 'cause like, I remember when I was sitting there like waiting, the staff was like, "All right, so tell me how much do the signees cost?" I'm like, "What are you talking about?" It's like, "How much do they cost? Like $5, $10, how much is it?" So that I can tell people in the line, I'm like, "It's free." And like- - They're like, "What do you mean? What do you mean it's free?" - Yeah, he was like, "What?"

- What do you mean? What do you mean it's free? - They couldn't process it. - They couldn't process it. They were like, what do you mean it's free? I'm like, it's fucking free. - I've heard like some other guests get annoyed when YouTubers turn up and don't charge. Cause they're like, well, you're just devaluing. You're making us look like ripoffs. And I'm like, well, I mean, you just got to make signings, don't you? - If I'm selling something like a print or something that like, you know, I brought it all in. - But that's the thing, right? I was selling prints cause I was doing a collab with like key studios, right? So it's like, people can just

- Yeah, I feel like if they, like I shouldn't charge someone to sign something. They already paid the entrance fee to get in the car. - Right, exactly. - Yeah, exactly, exactly. And they're like already buying like the merch that I collab with, right? So it's like, I'm not gonna charge them anymore.

- Yeah, when you see these like fucking, it's like the guy who sneezed on set on Star Wars charged $50 for a signature and it's like, what do you mean? - I'm a storm trooper number 1,300. - It's like, who the fuck are you? I really disagree with them doing that. And they charge so much. I really hate it. Like, I think it's so conceited. - Give them something physical, right?

- Yeah, exactly. - This should be like an item. - My signature should not be worth money. It should be like a nice little memorabilia, but I don't know anyone who would fucking- - I think it completely destroys the meaning of a signature, right? Like from a famous person, in my opinion. - I don't know, I just feel bad charging people for my signature. - Yeah, me too. I feel like I'm ripping someone off. I'm like the greatest fucking hunk.

- Like the worst I would get away with is charging. I haven't even like charged for prints or anything like that 'cause I've never done prints, but all like- - It's a pain to sort out. - Yeah, it's a pain to sort out, but at least give them something physical is what I say. - Exactly, exactly. - If we need to do something like that. - Right, right. But again, like we're doing well enough for ourselves. Like I'm not that fucking desperate to be like, "I have 500 prints, they all need to go." - I guess just sometimes the conventions can't really like

like pay you much for your time. So it's like, I get it that some people want to like, oh yeah, you know, like that's not really the reason I go to conventions. I just want to fucking meet my fans. - Any conventions in Southeast Asia want to invite us? - Any conventions in general, please invite me. - Any conventions in general? - Fucking love conventions so much. - We miss it so much. - After this fucking drought of conventions, we really need to fucking go to some. - I mean like,

- Crazy people and inappropriate people aside, like my God, I don't think there's anything better than meeting someone who's just like nice and just is like, "Hey, I watch your videos." 'Cause it's so crazy 'cause,

you don't really get to ever, I know YouTube would say this all the time, you don't get to see people who watch your videos. - No. - 'Cause when I see a video that gets like 300,000 views, I'm like, "Oh, yeah, cool." - Yeah, cool. - But then when you see- - Whenever you see 300 people in your panel- - Like that's crazy that 300 people in one room would wanna meet me. - Yeah. - It like blows my mind. And then they're like, most of them are so fucking sweet, so nice. And it's like, "Man, I can't help but just like, "you wanna hug? You wanna hug?

- It's also just feels so nice, especially when it's like a small convention as well, where it's like the ratio of like attendees to people who know you is staggering. And it's so hard to try to voice your gratitude without sounding like that typical corny YouTuber, but that's just- - I appreciate you guys so much. - You want a hug? Ask me, I'll give you one. Probably even if you're sweaty, I'll give you a fat hug. - I will give you a hug too. - I just put pressure gone into saying that.

- Gon wasn't gonna give you a hug until I said it first. Just wanted to make that clear. - I'm not gonna give you a hug.

I'm gonna give you a hug. I'm kidding, I'm kidding. - You know, they're not ranked enough for Joey's hug. Sorry, sorry. - Yeah, I am ranked. - Joey is ranked, sorry, sorry. - But like, you know, that's like the other thing as well. Like, I don't wanna like dwell on the whole like cosplay's consent thing, right? But like, I feel that- - You can ask me for a hug, I don't give a shit. - Right, but like, I feel that like now, like at least with me, my general rule of thumb is like, especially if it's of a female, right? Like, 'cause I know like dudes don't give a shit if I hug them, right? 'Cause it's like just a fucking- - Yeah, let me cup your dick.

- Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Let me hold your balls. - Don't do that, please don't do that, that's a jerk. - Your balls heavy? - But like, I feel that like because of the whole thing with especially recently, how like cons have become a little bit more sensitive. Like at least my general rule of thumb is if you're a female or you're not like a dude comes up to me and like wants to take a photo, I always ask like, is it all right if I put my hand on your shoulder? Or like I wait for them to be like,

Can I hug you? - I do that, but like sometimes I forget and then I'm like, fuck, I just did it without asking. Am I a horrible person? Like, fuck, are they gonna go online and say if I can kill- - It's only until the last AEX where I like physically told myself I need to get into the habit of doing this. - Same here, like before I was like, I was just like trying to read the air, but now I just straight up ask, you know what I mean? - Yeah, I used to just be like, I used to just be like, okay, I kind of get the vibe that you're okay with it. Like, that's just risky. - Yeah, because a lot of them are just like,

- Of course you can. Why is that even a question? I'm like, no, you don't understand. I have to ask. - 'Cause it's weird, right? Because now, because when we started off, I don't think any YouTuber ever thinks they're gonna get any kind of attention or any kind of success. So you kind of come into it with like the small person mentality. And sometimes you just gotta realize that you can't get away with that anymore. Unfortunately, even though you still see yourself as that same person who started off

doing like YouTube videos in your mom's basement or whatever. - I still feel like that. - I still feel like that now. - Yeah. - But you know, you gotta- - But the numbers don't lie, right? - You gotta adapt eventually. - It's sad. I mean, I feel like I have to like, I mean, in some aspects it makes you like be a better person, right? In general, like I've got an asshole 'cause I'll get called out for it. - Yeah, yeah. - Which is good. But then also I feel like I have to make sure everything in my life is completely 100% like,

there is no doubt in anyone's mind that I'm totally like in the clear. Whereas most people it's like, okay, 90%, 70%, I'm not an asshole. It's like, all right, that's enough. But you know, it's kind of, and also like, I feel as well when you meet fans sometimes,

they're really nervous 'cause obviously they don't know you. And I feel like they're more nervous to put their arm around you. And so I feel like they're like waiting for you to take the lead, which is, again, like it makes it harder 'cause like I used to just be like, all right, I guess they seem like they want it. Or where they stand for the photo. 'Cause sometimes, they'll just literally just stand in position, puff,

like touching you basically. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Okay, then we'll put that on. - Yeah, yeah. - And I think that's like another good reason why like- - I need to get in the habit. - Because they also, some of them are like, oh yeah, of course, like they weren't expecting it. - I mean, I'm sure I'll come out of this pandemic being like,

- I'm sure the pandemic will change a lot of the behavior about what's allowed and everything like that. - Although, a million hover hand photos. - Although I do love the hover hand photos. There's something about it, man. - The best part is when they ask for a hover hand photo and I'm just like, you get it, you get it. - Whenever I get someone ask me like, can you do a hover hand? I'm like, I can one up that. Let's do a hover hug. Where you're just like doing this but you're not touching at all. It's fucking great. - I wonder, will conventions, will everyone be required to wear a mask when they finally?

- Probably for the first two years. - I mean, that depends on when the conventions are gonna open up. - Exactly. - I doubt that there will be any conventions open next year. - Yeah. - Yeah. I just don't think, I don't think the world- - Didn't they hold one in like fucking Idaho or some shit? - Yeah, but I mean- - Like in the middle of-

- Yeah, exactly. But you know, they got fucking slammed for that, right? - Yeah. - Like I don't think there'll be any big profile conventions happening till at least the second half of the year. - And the whole eConventions are like, get that out of here. Get that out. I don't want to do an eConvention. Are you kidding me?

- I mean, I did a couple of e-conventions this year. - Did you actually? - Yeah, yeah. I did one for Anime Con South Africa. - Oh, I think I saw that, yeah. - I did like a prerecorded interview for that. - Oh shit. - And I'm like, I wanted to, the only reason why I wanted to do that was because when the pandemic is over, I really wanna fucking go to South Africa. - That'd be sick. - So it's just like, it's just connection building. So it's like- - Damn, Joey's just playing with the five head here. - Yeah, I don't know. Like I can't afford, I can't get myself to like attend EA.

'Cause like attending conventions is like, it's kind of like the equivalent of when you're like watching a food video or something and you're watching this like three-star Michelin chef like produce this like gorgeous looking food. And then you're sitting there with like your conbini meal.

- This is almost the same. - You like tear open the paper salt like, yes I am Gormley. - My three star ASG.

- Do you hate it when you make a fucking great meal, you got a great, or maybe you ordered Uber Eats and you fucking add it all before like four minutes into the one hour movie you were gonna watch. You're like, fuck, I gotta put this plate away or it's gonna get dirty and like stained. I shouldn't have, I fucking ate that so fast. - I don't know how to pace myself with food. - I don't do it. It's like the movies. My popcorn's eaten before we even- - That's why I don't even order the popcorn, right? - What do you mean? Why would you not do that? - I don't order popcorn. - You fucking animal. It's so good here. Why would you not want it?

- Because it's fucking popcorn. Popcorn's that thing that I never get myself, but whenever someone offers- - It's just corn with attitude, isn't it? - I'll take it, my God. - So like, have you guys had any creepy experiences with people or fans at conventions? - Absolutely, yeah. - Oh yeah, of course I am.

- Because I'd say like this, the moment when I stopped, like where I had to like really pay attention to who I was hanging out with was 'cause of this one convention I went to, I think it was like three, four years ago. I can't remember exactly how many years it's been, but it was like my first proper creepy stalker experience. - Sounds like a YouTube title. - That's supposed to be a story time animation. - Yeah, exactly. - Why are you wasting this for the podcast, man? Make a story time channel.

I just make like a draw my life. But yeah, I was at this convention and there was like a communal area and you know, I add conventions. What I like doing at conventions is meeting random people, meeting fans, talking with people. And the thing is I've met like a lot of my closest friends I've met through conventions. Like our friend group in England, 90% of those people

- Or people who I met at conventions who were fans of me. So that's why I had always tried to like, you know, be as open as possible no matter who it was. And I feel like this was the point when I realized, hey, maybe my reach is a little bigger than, you know, what I'm comfortable with because I was with, you know, hanging out with just this random group of people.

And it was me and Sydney. And we were having a great time. We were just chatting shit about anime and other shit in like this middle of this convention hall. And then it was like, it was time to just disperse and go our own ways. - Right, right.

we, so me and Sydney start walking back to our hotel rooms and everyone else goes their own ways. And then this one kid starts, you know, starts walking the same direction with us, right? - Oh God, is it the same guy from Akihabara? - No, no, it's not the same guy. Compared to the guy in Akihabara, the guy in Akihabara was like a fucking fucking saint. - Yikes.

So this kid follows us and I asked, and so I was trying to be polite to be like, "Oh, where are you staying?"

And he was like, "Oh, I'm staying in the same hotel as you guys." Now keep in mind, I talked with the kid quite a bit when we hang out in a group. - So you thought it was plausible that you told him your hotel. - Yeah, yeah. And I wasn't wasted, but I had a few drinks in me and I was feeling friendly. So I was like, whatever, just making casual chit chat. And he seemed normal enough. It didn't seem like a creep or anything like that. And so we go to a hotel and then we get in the lift

And then he goes in the lift with us and we're like, "Oh, what floor are you?" No, no, sorry. So we get in the lift and I hit my floor and I asked, "Oh, what floor are you?" And he goes, "Oh, it's the same floor as you." - Oh no. - And at this point, nothing clicked in my mind. 'Cause I was so innocent at that point. I was like, "Oh, there's lots of rooms in that floor too." And both me and Sidney were like,

"Oh, what a coincidence, we're on the same floor." Well, that's a huge coincidence. At this point, I'm just like, "No, I just wanna go to my bed and sleep. "I'm way too tired." So I'm like, "Yeah, cool." That's a huge coincidence. So we go up to the floor and then, so I go to my room first and Sydney is just a bit behind me 'cause I'm tired as fuck and I just wanna get into my hotel room. And so I go to the door, put my key in, I turn around and the kid's still there.

And I'm just like, "What are you doing?" And he straight up tells me, "Oh no, I just completely lied. I just wanted to see where you were staying." And I'm like, "What the fuck do I say to this?" And then apparently, when I wasn't looking before I had asked that, he tried to go in for a kiss with Sydney.

And Sidney told me this after we had got in our hotel room. And then after he said, "Oh no, I'm lying. "I just wanted to see where you guys were living. "Bye." And he just fucks off. I'm like, "Do I call security? "What the fuck?" 'Cause I didn't even get his name. So I didn't know who this kid was. I'd met him. It was just this random kid that I had met. He knew who I was obviously, but it was this random kid who I'd met just on the convention floor.

And so this was the first time I'd had like a fucking freak out in my hotel room to be like, "Yo shit, we gotta call security." Would it be like, "Can we get like, "can we get someone to stand outside this door? "Do we change hotel rooms? "What the fuck do we do?" And that was the exact moment when I'm just like, "Okay,

I gotta be fucking careful about who I hang out with at conventions. So if I'm a bit standoffish when I meet someone new at conventions, blame that guy, okay? - That's where the PTSD comes from. - That's where the PTSD comes from. - Holy shit. - Yeah.

- What the fuck? That's creepy. - I had something kind of similar to that. I mean, I've had multiple experiences similar to that, but I think the creepiest one that I ever had was it wasn't even in a hotel room. I was staying, it was like the first time. So I'd been to Autographon in Montreal a couple of times. - Yeah, damn it, everything fucking was

- Yeah, legit. Nothing against Montreal. Montreal is a beautiful city, but all the weird shit happened to me there. So I was staying at my friend's place at the time. 'Cause he lived like five minutes train from the convention hall. So I'm like, fuck it, I'll just stay at his. And we were staying with a couple of other friends. And this was before the convention had even started. But I was a guest at that convention. So people around Montreal knew that I was gonna be at that convention. And it was like,

like 12:00 AM and I was just fucking around with my friends and we get a knock on the door and there's like, and I was like, okay, I opened the door and there's just a box sitting there.

like not even a package, like not even mail, just a box. And I'm like, is this a bomb? What is this? And I told my, like the friend who, you know, the place, I was like, did you get a package? And he was like, no. I'm like, did anyone here get a package? He's like, no. - What's in the box? - And then I flipped the box over and it says to Joey. - Oh my God. - And I was like, oh no. I fucking like looked around and was like, there's no one around.

So I took the box in, I don't know why the fuck I took the box in. I took the box and closed the door and I slowly opened it and it was a Tupperware container of, you know what poutine is? - Yeah, no. - Poutine is like, it's this like dish in- - It's cheesy chips. - It's cheesy chips basically with gravy. It's like a French Canadian thing. - I fucking love cheesy chips with gravy. - Yeah, poutine is fucking delicious, right? But it was a Tupperware for poutine. And on top of the Tupperware, it said, "I'm a huge fan of you, Joey. I made some poutine for you."

- Was it still hot? - It was still hot. - How did you know where you were staying? - That's exactly what I wanna know. That's why I was shitting my pants. - Wait, wait, wait, was it good? - I didn't eat it. - What the fuck? I would've ate that. - No. - Dude, okay. - I've seen Higurashi, dude. I've seen the scenes where you eat the fucking Ohagi and there's a giant needle inside. I was like, I wasn't gonna have that shit. - All right, one time, right? I got gifted like a whole ass bento box, like a legit like big ass bento box. And someone made a curry in it, like a whole curry.

And I wasn't going to eat it, but

I was in the hotel room, it was like 12:00 AM. I was fucking starving. So I remember I had the bento box in my room and I take this curry and I didn't have like a knife or fork so I'm like, I'm in a fucking hotel room. But I had like the ice pick thing, like knife. It was like a fork, like two prongs. So I'm just like fucking scooping up this curry and I was eating it and it fucking tastes so good. It was such a good curry. - Oh no, I fucking remembered. - But yeah, I was like so fucking ghetto eating that with like my fucking knife

- I would've fucking ice pick. - Yeah, I wouldn't do that. I just remember though with the poutine thing, I didn't eat it 'cause I was too fucking scared to. But my friend was like, "Fucking, I'll eat it." - I was eating that. - But then he ate it and the first bite he took, he was like, "Why is there a giant hair in this?" - There was none of that in the curry. The curry was clean.

- There could be two options here. Either one, she, or I'm assuming it's a girl. She accidentally like dropped the hair in or she was like, I'm gonna get Joey to eat some of my hair. - My DNA is in Joey now. - Yeah, my DNA is inside Joey. I'm like, just thinking about that. She was so fucking creepy. - I'm gonna be an S tier Joey. - I'm gonna be at the top of his ranks when a part of me is inside his stomach. But yeah, just a fair warning for anyone who wants to like gift us anything, don't gift us food.

like especially if it's handmade. - Unless it's real bomb, then I'll still eat it. - I'm not gonna eat something unless it's like packaged. - I'm fine with food as long as it just doesn't appear in front of my hotel room. 'Cause the weirdest thing I would say is when people know where you're staying in the hotel and regardless of whether you're a fucking famous YouTuber or not, that shit's weird. - It was the creepiest Uber Eats delivery I've ever gotten. - I would have eaten that.

- I don't know man. I mean, I just ate, like I literally just eaten like store-bought poutine beforehand. - Always room for more man. - That shit fills you up though dude. - I know. - Poutine's fucking delicious. - I haven't had anything like that. I've been lucky enough to like not be- - Really? - Yeah. - I'm surprised you haven't had this stuff. - Yeah, if anyone wants to have a crazy fantasy, it's you. - Come on guys, step up. Come on, it's a more story. I'm kidding, I know.

- Sort of, I guess, kind of. Okay, one time in this convention, so typically they don't put you on the first floor. Like they're not supposed to. Because obviously that's where all the elevators are and everyone's, all the people are there. So typically they don't actually put guests on the first floor. They'll normally have a floor that's specifically for staff and guests that's like separate so that no attendee should be on the same floor as a guest or a staff.

That's what they're supposed to do. But sometimes the cons don't do that. So one of them, I was on the first floor and I was kind of annoyed 'cause I was literally about

15 meters from the elevator. - Right. - So everyone knows where I come from. - Great placement. - Yeah, right next to it. - Where do I come from? Where do I go? - Exactly. Cotton-eyed Joe. So it was just like asking someone to see where I was staying. I'm sure most people saw where I was. Luckily no one took advantage of that. But at about like 2:00 AM one night,

I'm like basically naked, but I really wanted ice. And the ice thing was right next to my room. And I thought, "Mission impossible, right?" It's 10 seconds in and out, no problem. I'm in my boxes only, right? I'm like, "I'm just gonna fucking do it." Like, I don't care. If someone sees me, who cares? I open my, I'm like building myself up confidence. I could've just put a t-shirt on. No, I'm building myself up. I open the door and there's just two girls sitting there.

opposite my door. - Right. - And I'm like, what the fuck? I've been like fucking SpongeBob's been on like full volume in my room. - And you're naked. - And I'm like basically naked. I'm like, go to the ice machine and I get it and I go back in and I'm like, as I'm closing my door, I'm like, what are you doing? Like nothing.

I'm like, all right then. - Did they know you? - I don't know, I didn't ask. I just closed the door and they said nothing. I'm like, all right, I'm going back to bed. - Meanwhile, there were like huge fans and they're just creaming themselves. - Maybe, maybe. I mean, they're basically watching one of my cosplay videos. So it's not really like a big deal. - I saw C-Dog VA's nipples. He came out watching Spongebob. - Nothing new. - For some reason he came out of his hotel room butt naked watching Spongebob. I don't wanna ask why he was doing that. - I just wanna ice. - And one time I was on like the seventh floor in like Minneapolis and I was like,

I went to my room, no one else on this floor. There was just this like seven foot white dude just sitting in front of my door. Just sitting in front of it, literally blocking it. And I was like, can I get in my room? He's like, oh yeah, sure. - Yeah, I've had that plenty of times too. Like people, random people sitting in front of my door and it's almost always people who don't know who I am. - Yeah, because- - I'm like, why are you here? Because it's like a, I mean, at conventions, hotel rooms just become a fucking zoo. - Yeah. - You know what I mean? - I was just so confused. I'm like, okay.

Like he was literally like not even like next to it, like in front of my door. And I'm like, can you move? I kinda wanna get in my room. - Why did these attendees think that like hotel hallways are the same as convention hallways, right? So you can't just sit in a hallway. - I didn't say anything 'cause I was like, I'm gonna hope that when I leave this room in 20 minutes after I've had my shower, that he will not be there. Luckily he wasn't. - Yeah.

I was like, that was just so weird. - So you've never had like the getting a letter slipped under your hotel door and stories like that? - People stalking you back to your room? - No, they always like give it to my face, which is like, yeah, I had someone who- - That's much nice, I wish I had that. - I had someone who's like, this is for you and it was an envelope. And I thought, oh, that's nice, they've written me like a little card. And I noticed like, it's a little light. It's a little light. And the helper next to me is like, oh, you should open it. And I was like, I was gonna leave it 'cause normally I like leave it 'til I get back 'cause people are still coming. And I opened it up and it's a hotel key card.

And on the envelope, they've written their room number. And I was like, damn. - Damn, son. - And then the handle. - Did you go? - No.

- No. - Any street, any dude watching this is like, it's a free invitation. - They were like a fairy tale cosplayer. So I was like, no, thank you. I'm kidding. I just thought this is not the kind of Chris Hansen trap I need to walk into. I'm like, this is no, no, no, no, no. This is like a James Bond plot, but no, thank you. And like the handler next to me was like,

- I was like, "Can I have that?" - I was like, "You drew what you wanted?" I asked them to give it back to the hotel. - Yeah. - I mean, people give numbers and stuff. But it's just flattering. I'm like, "Thank you." You think I'm worth texting? - Yeah. - "Get outta here, get outta here." I like it, I don't know, it's nice. - Yeah, I think the nicest gift I've ever got from a fan was also at AX where- - A lot of my enemies.

- No, so someone had given me also like a, it was like a handwritten letter, but with the letter was like, it came in a box and in the box was like a lot of origami cranes that she had like folded herself. And I'm like, did you do this all by hand? And she's like, yeah, you know, I was just bored and I just wanted to give you something that was memorable. And it was definitely memorable 'cause it was like, you know, I was like- - I mean, you're telling the story of it right now. - Yeah, exactly. I still remember to this day, I still have it.

Fucking, it was the first time I felt like, maybe I'm doing some good in this world, man. I'm so happy, thank you so much. - I just talk about anime titties and I get this beautiful gift. - Have you seen like that Vine or whatever where the guy's making a sandwich with crisps? It's like, you made this for me? - Oh yeah.

- Bro, you made this for me? I love you bro. That's how I felt in that exact moment. - Do you remember that like really like creepy statue I had at my house? - Yeah. - I loved this. I loved this. A fan had made me this statue and it was like a proper clay statue. And it was like, you know, I don't think they were like amazing at it, but it was so fucking sweet, but it was so cursed and creepy at the same time.

But it was such a, so I just couldn't imagine the amount of thought they put into this that I was like, I fucking loved it so much. So I kept it in my house. So whenever people came to my house, they're like, "The fuck is that?"

"What is that?" And I'm like, "Oh, it's a statue of me." Like, "You? That's you?" I'm like, it's not the most flattering, but a fan gave it to me like, "Oh, that's nice." - Yeah, probably because when you said it's a statue of you, he was like, "Did you make that?" - The thing was as well is that it kind of looked really beat up 'cause it like went through the mail as well. And I had to like,

I thought this thing was so cool that they'd done it that I spent like an hour and a half super gluing it all back together just so I could display it in my house and creep everyone out, I guess by accident. But I thought like, oh, this is so sweet. And I took my parents' house, creeping them out, I guess. Thank you to that one fan who sent me that statue of me in like an L pose. - Yeah, we appreciate that shit so much, honestly. We don't do anything that amazing to be able to get gifts like that.

- Being given anything, it just feels really weird that you would want to give something to us anyway. - Yeah, exactly. - And not weird in a bad way, just weird for us because we were just like, we don't do anything special. We just fucking talk about- - Fucking make videos. - Talk about anime titties and whatever. - It's very humbling 'cause again, I feel like I make the videos just for myself and to also pay the bills. That's kind of like the main reasons, what that like, I make the videos first and foremost for me. And then it's just like, I constantly forget how much,

people enjoy them. And it's really just like, oh shit, it's these mean things to people. I don't know. Not that my videos are like worth meaning anything. I don't think that. I'm not conceited at all to think that, but when people are like, oh, you know. - My videos are deep.

- Right, like you meet someone on YouTube who's like, you know, I'm doing this 'cause it keeps people happy. - I'm changing the world. - Without me, depression would go up 10%. - I'm changing the world, I'm like, you make a reaction video. - It's like, you know, I get it in some people, it's like that routine. 'Cause I've had that where someone's video, even though it's dumb, is like, you know, help me out. So I've come to, I don't know, man, it's hard to explain. - It's always humbling because what we see on our side is just a number. A number means nothing.

But when we go to a convention and we see a room full of people and it's like putting a flight, actual people and faces and interactions to those numbers, it's like, unless you've experienced that you can't really describe it. You know what I mean?

it's very humbling and it's very flattering and you don't quite know what the right way to react to it is. So we just hope that we react in a way that one, doesn't make you feel bad and two, doesn't make us seem like conceited assholes. - I just want you, if you know me and you come up to me, just have like, go away from that interaction thinking, damn, Anna was everything I wanted them to be.

That's all I want. And it's so hard because sometimes I'm like, did I say the right thing? Should I have squeezed them a little harder with the hug? Should I have like shaken their hand longer? - Sometimes like every time after a convention, like I wake up in a cold sweat to be like, man, was I an asshole to that one person?

Like I was just trying to get food. - And it's also like, you know, cause some people they always like want a little more and it's hard. Cause you like, especially if you're going out for like dinner with your friends, it's like, oh man, I really don't want them to be like, damn Connor's an asshole. He wouldn't let me eat with him. And it's like, well, I mean,

- For some reason, I don't give a shit about the one hate comment or like the hundred hate comments. - Right, right. - You see on a YouTube comment, but the thoughts of this guy trashing me to his friends just fucking keeps me up at night, man. - Because it's so real, right? It's so real. - I could be totally in the right and being like, fuck off. But I can't do it 'cause I'm like, man, this guy respects me so much and I really don't wanna be mean. I'm trying to explain it so nice, but he's just not getting it. - Because you know there's a little part of you where if the roles were reversed, you'd be like, man,

- Yeah, yeah, yeah, I get it. - Which by the way, shout out to that guy I met in Akihabara, who I told the story about for being a good sport about it. It was an awkward interaction, but thank you for being a good sport about it. I saw your comments and everything. So yeah, I mean- - Yeah, bottom line, we appreciate every single person that comes up to us. It's just that sometimes every now and then there's just that one really weird person. - Just like-

- Just be you. - Just be you. Understand that social norms do exist in anime conventions. - You know that. You're a normal. You're a trash taster. You wouldn't do that. - Okay, I think the best way to word it is treat us no differently how you would just treat a stranger. 'Cause it's how I would explain like parasocial relationships where I've watched people on YouTube that you do feel like a connection with 'cause you feel like you do know them, but you have to understand that that's a one-way connection.

You wouldn't go up to a random stranger and be like, yo bruv, I know everything you've done. I know your entire life story. Let's be friends. There are several steps for both ends when it comes to making friends, whether you know the person or not. And our perspective is we don't know you. You know what I mean? So as long as you just come in with that perspective. - That is the worst question. I hate it the most. Can we be friends?

- It's the worst question because there's like- - It's so loaded. - It's like, how on earth do you expect me to answer that? Like, yeah, we're best friends. Here's my fucking phone number. We're going on vacation next week. Right, come join. - By the way, what's your name? - You don't make friends by asking someone, can we be friends? - Right, I feel like asking that question, you never win as the person asking that question. You're never gonna get what you want. And all you're doing is making the situation awkward for everyone involved. Where I have to explain to you and be like,

So I don't know you. I would like to, you know, I'm happy to talk to you and get to know you a little bit. - And I hate that talk too because it makes you sound like an asshole. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - I don't wanna, 'cause it makes me feel like I'm like putting them below me. You don't have the right to be friends. - You don't have enough subs to be like. - Right, but it's so difficult 'cause there's no way of really explaining that without making it sound like you're in the better position of like, hey, no.

- No. - The way I would think about it is, I mean, like I said, you wouldn't ask a person whether they're famous or not. You've just met, hey, can we be friends? Like 90% of the time they're gonna be like, I mean, I don't know you and you don't know me. - Who are you? - Like can we get to know each other first? - Yeah, yeah, exactly. - And then we can decide.

- Yeah. - But not through asking that question. - True. - Now I'm actually just curious, like once conventions do start to open up again, I wonder how many people are gonna come up to us being like, "You're Joey from Trash Taste, right?" - Oh, Trash Taste as opposed to channel? - Yeah, as opposed to like the anime man. I'm genuinely curious. - Who knows, man, who knows? - Because I'm sure there's like some Trash Taste viewers who don't watch our like individual channels. - Oh, for sure. - Or probably never knew us before Trash Taste, right?

I'm just curious, like who's gonna be the first person to be like, yo, it's Joey Khan Connor from Trash Taste. - I can't wait. - That's gonna be fucking weird. - I just miss all the mispronunciations of my username. I've like got a fucking list of all the mispronunciations of like everyone who's tried to pronounce Gigguk. - Dude, I get that too. And I'm like, I remember I had one guy in an anime expo being like, yo, are you Josh the anime man?

- Wasn't that the one guy who like- - Oh, in Singapore, right? He's like, "Are you Gigguk?" Meanwhile, Garnt is standing right next to me. I'm like, "No, that's Gigguk actually."

- How do you do that? - I don't know. Like, yeah, it's hilarious. Either way we fucking miss conventions. I'm sure if you're a convention goer, you probably miss conventions. - We'll go to any convention, just invite us, please. - Just invite us. - Honestly. - I'm sure we have some other stories that we've forgotten or something that we can tell.

- Yeah, there's been more in future. We'll just tell them. Also, if you want us to go to a convention to you when they eventually open up, the best way to do it is to like email the convention yourself and tell them you want to see us. That is by far the best way to get us going because the owners don't know who you want. So you have to actually tell them, don't tell us we can't do shit. Just saying. - Yeah, don't like we get so many like emails and tweets and whatnot. Like, hey, can you come to this convention?

- We don't make that decision. - We don't make that decision. - We get the invites from a convention. So if there's enough interest for your local convention, wherever you wanna go. - That's like saying like, "Hey, can you go to this random person's wedding?" It's like, "I didn't get the invite, dude. I can't go." - It's like, "Bro, you're playing at this concert, right? It's like you're playing this gig. Can you go to the gig?" It's like, "No, I can't, no." - So let your local convention or whatever know who you want. - I wanna go anywhere in the world.

- Honestly, like conventions, I fucking love conventions because it gives me the space to travel. - And whatever conventions wants to host the first in-person trash tasting. - Ooh, that would be some spicy shit. That would be some spicy shit. - That would be fucking awesome. - In the meantime though, look at these lovely patrons who support the show. - Damn, I love those patrons. - Yeah, I love them. - These guys are very normal at conventions.

- I bet they won't stalk me. - Yeah, they won't clomp me. That's all right. But if you'd like to be in part of that group, then make sure to go over to patreon.com/trashdays, best place to support the show directly. Also follow us on Twitter and Reddit, subreddit. Lots of memes there, lots of greatness there. We love it. - All right. - But yeah, guys. - That's it, boys. - Hopefully you enjoyed this episode and we'll see you guys in the next one. - Bye.

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