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Everyone Deserves Generational Welsh | Trash Taste #262

2025/6/27
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The hosts discuss the misconceptions and stereotypes surrounding Wales, contrasting them with the reality of their recent trip. They explore the country's unique identity separate from England and touch upon popular memes.
  • Wales's unique identity separate from England and the UK
  • Misconceptions about Wales being a barren wasteland
  • The significance of Cardiff as a capital city
  • Ayers Rock as a significant Australian landmark

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- Hey, what's up everyone? Welcome back to another episode of the Trash Taste Podcast. I'm your host Joey and I'm with your boys Connor and Garnt. - Why do you sound so- - Hey guys, welcome back to another episode of- - Because I was at a bar last night till 4:00 AM playing Mahjong. - Oh my God. - I slept over at the office. So that's how you know it's been a rough couple of days for your boy. - Well, you literally had the proper Japanese work schedule then.

- No. - You're on main cam as well, so you have to have at least half the talking today. - Yeah. - Oh, fuck. - That's how it works. - Is that how that works? - That's how I've always envisioned being on the solo cam. - Oh, shit. - You gotta talk more. - Why did we decide- - 'Cause it needs to cut. - Why did we decide that I was gonna be the host? - Okay, well, we just, last episode we recorded, you were here. That's what we've been doing.

I can't believe we're still like after all these years and filming so many episodes ahead of time that we're still like, yes, we still would need to go in order of the host. Everyone needs their fair share of host time. - Maybe it's just sentimentalism. Yeah, I kind of liked the moving thing. - Yeah, we should just call me in advance. - The King Arthur's round table, no man is greater than no man. - Okay, and I like how on this one, we're like, yes, we need to rotate every time. On After Dark, we're like,

- Yeah, whatever. - Yeah, whatever. - Yeah, we got our own, we got our butt marks on those couches. - Same old, same old. - Yeah, but what have you guys been up to recently? - Yeah, I mean.

- What? It's a topical episode. - I know, I just, I don't know, it's just funny you're like so fucking tall. Will you just shut the fuck up and talk? - Do some shit. What are you here for, bro? - Well, I suppose me and Garnt went to the UK. - Yeah. - You went to Wales? - I went to Wales, yeah. I didn't really go to the UK. - Is Wales not UK?

- He's trying to be superior. - As a Welshman, he was like, I'm not part of England. - I only spent one day in London. - You're gonna have to clear this stuff up to non-UK people because it's already confusing enough as it is. What's not UK and what is UK? - Great Britain is the main island, the big mass that we all know, not including any of Ireland.

And then the United Kingdom- - That's Wales and Scotland included? - Yes. - And England. - And England, yeah. - And the United Kingdom is Wales, Scotland and- - Northern Ireland. - Northern Ireland, right. - Yeah. - Right. - Yeah. - Okay. - Yeah, so that's- - So you went to the UK?

- Well, some say, some say. Some say. - Fuck's sake. - Some say. - You went to Wales. - Went to Wales. It was a lot of fun because we did a, and this was a little while ago now, I'm sure people, you know, they're like, "Ugh, honk shoo me old news." But no, it was a lot of fun. I got to finally do something that I've been wanting to do for a very long time, which was kind of show Wales as hopefully an interesting place and not the memes of it being a barren Ohio wasteland.

that people talk about. - Is that the memes around? I'm not up to date on the whales memes. - The whales memes is that all there is to do there is shag sheep. - Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.

- Yeah, that's pretty much it. - 'Cause you know, if you ever ask someone from the UK, if they're from England, they'll just be like, yeah, it's nothing there. 'Cause they've never been. Understandable. 'Cause when it's a new backyard, you don't really, you know, I'd rather go to France or Italy. - Sure. 'Cause even me, I was like, yeah, I've never been to Wales. And then you were like, yo, we had a show in Cardiff. And I was like, nah, that's not Wales. Is that Wales?

- Is that not the fucking capital? - Well, it's only like a new capital. - Explain. - I don't know if we can factor this one. - I don't know the Wales law. - When did capital become the Cardiff of Wales? It's a recent capital and it is the biggest city for sure. But other than having a castle in the middle of the town, which is very cool and Welsh. - It was cool. 1955. - Yeah, 1955.

I don't know I'm kind of biased I feel like because all the cool shit is just outside of Cardiff right I like I would think that as well yeah um because I mean I don't know traveling to Cardiff I'm just like oh this is like almost like just another London almost yeah yeah kind of it's like just the big hub really it's very nice it's a really lovely city but yeah I feel like when I think of like all the really Welsh things I think about

I feel more times than not as well. I don't know if it's just because of the countries that I've been to. I feel more times than not, the capital city of a country is usually the most boring part of that city. Well, it's the most sterile, because it has to be kind of, you know, the hub where all the masses... Yeah, because if I ask people to come to Australia, I'm not going to be like, yo, you should check out Canberra. Yeah. Because what the fuck is that doing in Canberra? Well, yeah, it's like Canberra too. They decided. They were like, in 1955, they were like, meh, okay, we'll make it. Yeah, true. Yeah.

Would you say the same thing about London? No. London's its own thing. London's a beast. Yeah. It is like its own thing that is, I think, separate to all of England. But I would say London's still worth going to. London's just fucking old as shit. Yeah. It's like a Roman stronghold, I think. It's huge as well. There's still some of the original walls the Romans built, I think, like, I don't know how many years ago. It must have been 1500 or 2000. Damn. It's still like there. They've just been built over.

Weird that we just thought to do that. Just fucking build over it. All your stuff just gets old. That's cool, though. At least you guys have that history and culture around it. Yeah. You know? Australia's like, oh, what's the oldest thing we got? A 150-year-old pub. That's about it. Oh!

I'm sure there's some really cool shit that's old in Australia. I'm sure. Well, I mean, old... You've got a big rock, right, in the desert? It's a pretty cool rock. I mean, yeah. We don't got a big rock. That is true. I mean, you can't climb it anymore, though. Yeah, this is a shame. Yeah, because it's protected land now, which is, you know, understandable. But the problem with Ayers Rock is that, you know, it's like that one thing where you go to... Or you look at Australia and everyone is like, oh, but you guys have...

- It's like the middle of fucking nowhere. - Yeah, it's just in the middle of the desert. There's this giant slab of rock and it's the single biggest, I think, rock slab on the planet or something. - Half of these things are only popular, I'm convinced, 'cause tour agencies existed in the past. They're like, "No, we'll just take you there." - Yeah. But if you actually go to Ayers Rock, there is actually nothing around it. Like from the closest city to Ayers Rock, I think it's like a six hour drive or something.

i imagine it it is really cool though to look at it i'm sure it is i've never been so i don't know for me i'm a little too lazy that doesn't sound worth it i'd rather just sit in a tent in like melbourne on the street and just stand outside the crown casino can i have five pence please can i i mean that is also an australian experience yeah yeah i love the concept of this it's just like oh

Oh, it's just big rock. It is. It's just big rock. Big rock in the middle of country. Man is like, what is worth seeing? Oh, big rock over there. It's the Audi belly button of Australia. I think we're memeing a bit, but I know there's some like...

- Yeah, with the, did you say Aboriginal or like, what did you say? - Indigenous Australians. - Indigenous, yeah. Is that offensive to say Aboriginal? - See, the term changes all the time. So when I was a kid, it was okay to say Aboriginal or even Indigenous Australian. I think they're called First Nation people now.

- Kai, you're Australian, you should know this bro. - I saw the panic in Joey's eyes being like, "Please let this be right." - I've been out of the country for 10 years, so give me some slack. I think they call First Nation people now, if I'm not mistaken. But yeah, the term is constantly changing, yes. - Yeah, I think that The Rock has quite

- Oh, incredibly. - Like it's a pebble. - Yes. - It's like this fucking stone. It's quite significantly, culturally important to people in Australia. - Yeah, it's like an ultra sacred area. - Yeah, that's why they closed it, right? - Yeah, that's right. - That makes sense. - Yeah. - I think if I had a really fucking sick rock that meant a lot, I think I'd be like, "Stop fucking climbing on it." - Yeah, it's like, "Get off." - "Stop pissing all over my rock." - "Get off it." - "Get the fuck off my rock."

- She's just like Australians. - Yeah. - Savages, a lot of them. - My parents went to Ayers Rock before I was born. And my dad told me the story of, I guess, this was like maybe, I don't know, not even within the first 10 years of my mom being in Australia. So she was very heavily underestimating Australian weather.

So, because to get to Ayers Rock, you first have to go to Alice Springs, which is already in the middle of nowhere. And then from there, I think it's like, yeah, like a four or five hour drive. So my parents went to Alice Springs because they wanted to go to Ayers Rock. And my mom, bless her heart, she was like, oh, let's rent out a scooter and scoot to Ayers Rock.

not knowing that the drive was there. And it was also like 40 degrees at all times. And that's how a lot of people die. It's on the way, five hour drive. It's a 500, almost a 500 kilometer drive to Uluru. But yeah, it's just really funny. She was reminiscing about it. You know, you're in 40 something degree heat in the middle of a desert. And you know, you just think like, oh, I can see it over in the horizon. So it's just a quick drive.

and you drive for hours and hours. And it's like, why is it not getting any closer? - I feel like your dad trolled all over here. He should have vetoed the scooter idea. - Yeah, I don't know. My dad should have known better. I feel, dad, you should have known better. - Oh yeah, fucking love some sand and fucking heat beam flash. - I was like, well, if the wife says so, I guess I'll do it.

- I guess I'll risk my life to go to this rock. - I feel like your dad has the fuck it, wee ball kind of energy as well. - I feel like your dad will be like, I feel like your dad saw it as an opportunity to make it so that he's always consulted now on future decisions.

That's what I saw. He's like, yeah, I'll fucking do it. - He's like, all right, just this once, you've got the reins, but we'll see how it goes from there. - That's the strategy. You have to hit it with a, I don't know about this and then do it anyway and then be like, ah. - It's like, well, don't say I didn't tell you so. - Then you can't say I told you so. - Yeah. - Then you have to save the I told you so. - True. - You have to restrain yourself from saying I told you so, Jack. - No, no, no, no. It's not about the I told you so. This is like, this is called marriage couple. Like,

This is the strat, all right? You never say, I told you so. You never say, they're wrong. But in a situation like this, you can be like, oh.

- Well, honey, this last time, I'm just saying, I'm just saying, you know. - It'll come back. It's like interest. You gotta let it sit. The longer you sit on it, the more it's- - It becomes like a Pavlovian effect. The next time my mom is like, "Oh, I wanna drive." You just have to say, "Ulluru." And she's like, "Ulluru." She's like, "You take the wheel." - Sorry for calling you out, mom.

- You don't watch "Trash Days" this month. - Going back to Wales. - Yeah, what was on the itinerary? - Yeah, what'd you guys do? - Well, yeah, I wanted to show, you know, 'cause I think it's also cool that, so it's very easy having Pete who is so- - Charismatic. - Optimistic. - Charismatic and also just down. He's just like everything, he's like, "This sounds like the best thing I've ever had in my life." - Yeah, he's so optimistic about everything. - I was like, "It's literally McDonald's." And he's like, "This is the greatest fucking thing I've ever had in my life." Which to be honest, sometimes it is when it hits.

So I wanted to kind of get a balance of things, do some interesting things, show some, you know, maybe some of the things that were just maybe some people consider boring, just going to a place, looking at a thing and going maybe, you know, so I wanted to kind of get a balance. So we ended up going to a lot of different castles, some really amazing ones in Wales, which were a lot of fun as well. Um,

We also, what else did we do the first day? Oh, we went to the Welsh cultural event called , which was really fun. - Is that where you got interviewed by the BBC? - Yes, yes. - I saw that.

- It's been zero days. - Shut the fuck up. - It wasn't me for once. - He said BBC, he said BBC, he said it, he said it. - It's almost like Connor and I are not allowed out of those worlds. - I can't say it. - It's like, I'll bring it up 'cause I know Connor wants to talk about it. - So basically this was like a massive learning process for me. And I'm sure like we're all very accustomed to filming in America and filming in Japan. And I know the process of how it goes.

you know in america you call someone up you're like can i film the like fuck why don't you just show up yeah like filming in america is so easy it's actually stupid how easy it is to film in america and like people are so chill about it because everything's on camera in america yeah um in japan i know the process as well because there's a lot loads of complete opposite but then it's predictable like i know what to expect and and the uk was like a weird one where it's kind of in the middle like some things were like you absolutely need to get full permission some things are like

nah, just rock up. And like, it was such a weird thing to have to navigate. And cause I was doing all of this myself. I kind of, normally I'll have help in Japan. Well, you know, we have like a team who helps us with it, but this time I was just doing it all myself.

Cause I was like, I think I can explain what I'm doing the best. And it was just like varying levels of difficulty between, yeah, sure. And can you fill out risk assessment forms and provide your, all this other stuff that I'd never heard of. And I would reply being like, Hey, I'm,

"Yeah, I don't know what any of this is. Can you help me out?" And I felt like such a noob. I'm like, "Please explain this." I totally forgot about risk assessments. - Yeah. - 'Cause we don't do that here. - Yeah. - No, we don't. But in the UK, they're obsessed with it. And you have to fill out this thing and you have to... It's so weird 'cause I just didn't know what to do. I was Googling frantically to try and figure out what this is. And I have to be like, "Okay, so if I'm filming in an old building, I have to write down stairs are old."

could fall or stair could break. What is the step I'll take to mitigate this risk? - Oh, so you have to write all of like the hypothetical. - Oh my God. - Do you remember this shit? - Well, I was a project manager, so you just unlocked like a fucking memory. - Wait, so you have to write down like all the hypothetical issues that you might get? - There was one place where I had to go and I had to,

I actually had help writing this 'cause I was so lost. I actually didn't know. And I felt like this was so dumb, but it is literally like, imagine you are dumbing yourself down to the maximum dumbness and you like point out everything that's dangerous. And then you just recognize that it's dangerous and that you've said like, you know. - So that you're aware of what's going on.

- I understand why they do it. It just felt like a little like, what? - It's just so it's like documented down on paper so that whenever something does go wrong, that you know who to blame. - So like an old-

like old historical place, I'd have to put like, the stairs are slippery. - Yeah. - So if someone fell- - So if someone slips on the stairs, you could be like, well, we tried to mitigate that risk, but there was something that we didn't see. - Right, right, right. - So you can't sue us 'cause you're aware that the stairs are slippery. - This was all like really new. 'Cause like normally in Japan, Japan surprisingly,

that we don't normally have to do a whole lot of paperwork outside of the generic kind of release forms. - No, because health and safety is just not a fucking thing in Asia. - Health and safety is not a thing in Japan. - Like in the UK, it's like everything needs to be documented. What are the potential risks? In Asia, considering how much paperwork people need to go through here, you're like,

go to a fucking race course or something. And you're like, ah, you don't really need a driver's license. - Yeah, that's fine. Just put your name and phone number. - Yeah, exactly. Exactly right. - Well, yeah, I don't know. Maybe because this is, I guess Japan is a lot less sue happy. I feel like they don't normally sue in Japan. It's kind of, I've never even, I've never even heard of it happening.

- I mean, it's only really happens in like super serious situations. But even then it's like, yeah, it just seems like a pain in the ass process to go through. - For everyone. - Yeah, for everyone. - Yeah, I quite like it. I like that everyone's first instinct isn't to fucking file a lawsuit. You know, normally you try to mediate a lot here, which is nice. Not that I've had to do that, but.

from what I've seen. Anyway, so that was a whole thing getting used to that. And it was nice being able to like, cause you know, in Japan there's, for me, it's a little tough to kind of, if I ring up and I'm like, ah, satsuei desu ka? And sometimes they're like, oh,

And then they asked me a bunch of stuff that I have no idea about. I'm like, I'm going to ask Nabi for help. It was kind of fun getting to do it on my part. But anyway, enough of the boring planning stuff. Planning took forever, but we got everything kind of set out. Very stressful having to explain to places like, hey, I'm rocking up at this time.

And I need to rock up at this time and I'm leaving in like an hour. And they're like, but we have a four hour tour. And I'm like, I need to leave it out because we got to do something else and we got to leave. And it's just all really weird because all of them thought like, oh yeah, we've done filming. I'm like, no, no, no. This is like different. It's all live. Yeah. All that stuff. So super new learning process for me. A lot of fun though. And it just takes a lot of the, you know, stress out of it when you've got permission and stuff. Yeah. Because, you know, most places you can just,

A lot of places you can rock up and you can be like, hey, is it okay if I film? And they say no, they say no, whatever. But obviously when you're kind of flying across the world and kind of banking on this working, you're like, I kind of want it to go smoothly. So anyway, sorry to bore about planning stuff. It is a pain in the ass, but fun to do occasionally. Made this beautiful itinerary. I don't know, I'm making shit up. And then we went to the Steadfod. Anyway, so the Steadfod was really interesting because they were like, for me, it was...

Interesting talking with them 'cause they're like kind of a, you know, it's like just a Welsh cultural event. They're not used to live streamers showing up or YouTubers or anything like that. It's all like legacy media. - Sure. - So every question that they asked me, I was like, oh, I am streaming this. Like this is different from, 'cause a lot of the questions like were definitely for mainly like- - Like what? - Okay.

they were like yeah you can start at 10 but then come meet us at the media booth for a meeting at 10 30 and i was like okay wait like well we will be live at that point i can't yeah and so i can't there's a lot of stuff where i had to kind of like explain like no no the camera's on the whole time yeah pushing the whole thing like i can go away from the camera and talk to you we can do stuff like that but like that'll be on the whole time yeah um but they were super receptive and they were like come on down come show it and it was so fun and i got to show like uh

the pete of an in very intense welsh day because everyone at this thing can like 95 people at this event can speak welsh okay and everyone is like speaking welsh most of the time so it's really fun to kind of throw a pete in the deep end and be like so so what's like the main like draw for this event so it's it's uh they have three of these welsh cultural events every year and uh

There's one for kids, one for adults and one that's international. - Okay. - And so this one was the one for kids. So this will be like all the kids who competed in the different events. It's like the finals for kids. - Okay. - Kids below 13, yeah, kids below 13, I think.

But we didn't film any of the competitions or anything like that. We just went around. There's a lot of stuff to do. We did some archery, some axe throwing, went on a bunch of sketchy fair rides, did a couple of plate spinning, had a bunch of food. It was really fun. Is it kind of like Renaissance fair vibes or...?

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- No, just like a normal fair. Like a normal fair with, I guess to keep it- - I'd say a state fair. - Sounds like a state fair. - Like a state fair, but because, you know, a lot of the parents are coming 'cause their kids are competing. Or maybe they just live nearby and they want something to do for the day. So it's kind of like they need

other stuff outside of just, you know. - Yeah, the competition. - The competition. And there's also like informational booths. So if you want to like go to a Welsh university, they'd have a booth there. You can go up and chat with them or like a tent, that kind of thing. So there's a lot of like things to do. So luckily, I didn't know that though. I didn't know how many things that were 'cause when I was a kid, I don't remember it being that much. 'Cause I was like, I remember it being pretty boring when I was a kid. But it was a little better this time. So I was very happy about that.

And so I was like, yeah, Pete, we should do this. And my main objective was that I wanted someone, and I had asked them beforehand if they could get someone who could teach us

'cause I did this while I was in school, it's called "Danshugwairin" and it's a kind of like folk dancing. And so I wanted to get someone to teach us how to do folk dancing as well as like the tapping one, I forgot what it's called, not tap dancing. It's something else in Welsh, I forgot what it was. - River dancing? - It's kind of like tap dancing. - Like river dancing kind of? - It's very much like river dancing. It's very much like the Welsh name for it. But they all, I think, come from the same thing. And they were like, "Yeah, we found someone who's gonna teach you."

And that was happening at like 1230. So the whole day was kind of like building up to this like thing where we're going to finally get involved and get taught. And then in between, I guess for some reason, the BBC had heard that I was there streaming. And so they wanted to have an interview with me. And I was like, okay, cool. It's like, guys, the world's most famous Welsh person is here. He's back home. Well, they were just wondering like, why would you want to like live stream this? Yeah. So we were live streaming, chatting with them. And it was a very standard interview. And I did it in Welsh, which was tough because I'm,

This is day one, so I'm kind of trying to like restart the Welsh engine. - It's rusty. - Yeah, I'm kind of rusty. And a lot of people who haven't heard Welsh, there's a lot of English words that get used 'cause they're loan words, kind of like Japanese. It's like, they don't have a word for cheeseburger. It's the same thing in Welsh. Same with YouTube. 'Cause they ask you about YouTube every five seconds, it sounds like, "YouTube, Twitch." So that's that.

I had my interview and then afterwards, uh, Pete was there and they were like, Oh, we'd love to interview you as well, Pete. So Pete, you know how Pete is. Pete just nails it. He's just being so funny. He's playing it up. You know, he's, he's playing the American who wants to find his Welsh, Irish, British roots to like 11. It's so funny. He kills it. He's just, he's a natural. He's phenomenal. And, um,

So later that day as well with this interview, they'd posted mine to like socials and stuff. And I got like tagged in it. I was like, oh, that's nice, thank you. But Pete's, they posted Pete's to the actual like BBC page. So like on the like full interview, like if you went to the BBC app that day on videos, it'd be like one of the top ones. And Pete's like, yeah, man, I'm like one 10th Welsh or something. I might be more Welsh than the people here.

And it was literally on like, on the fucking BBC. - The BBC guys were like, nah, this is too gold to not hear. - The BBC international news is fucking Pete being so funny. - American comes to Wales. - It's so perfect. He played it up so well. It was just really funny and it was great to see it. I don't know, it was just really funny to see it happen. - Good on him. - That was great.

And we finally went to this like dancing thing where as we were getting ready for this dancing, I saw my like old physics teacher there. And I was like, what the fuck? Oh yeah, I saw that clip as well. I was like, what the fuck? What the fuck, Bryn? What are you doing here?

And he's like, "Oh, I'm the one who's gonna be playing the accordion for you." And I was like, "Oh, okay." So when we learned how to do the folk dancing, he was the one playing the accordion. - But did he know you were coming? - No. - Oh shit. - He wouldn't have remembered me, I don't think. I'm sure he'll say he might have. - It's like, "Teach, do you remember me?" He's like, "Yeah." - But yeah, so he played the accordion and that was awesome. The accordion's so sick. And it was so cool watching him

As they were teaching us these, because they were like super talented. They were like 18 year olds. They were both like phenomenal, like best. They'd won the competition before. Yeah. As they were slowing down or speeding up, he was doing speeding up with the music or slowing down. So cool to see with the accordion. Because the accordion, you know, you're moving like this. So you go like,

All right. It's so sick. It's an incredibly difficult instrument as well. So badass. Yeah. So that was really cool. Did that. And then I think, yeah, we went to this like beautiful wine place. Anyway, other highlights trying to think. Okay. So the Welsh culture festival was probably one of my favorite days for sure. Yeah. And then we went on. What did we do on the second day? Oh, dude. So I'd hired this expert to find out all about Pete's grandma who

who was Welsh. And that was like one of the main points of this thing was to find out about Pete's grandma. Now, the problem is, is that Pete told me where his grandma was from.

And it isn't a very nice place in Wales. Okay. One of the like roughest places in Wales, maybe. Right. Because it used to be a big coal mining town that obviously coal mining became not so popular. Right. And so I was like, oof, okay. But I think this will still be really fun because we'll learn all about his history. We can go around the town and stuff.

The problem was that it started raining fucking buckets that day. It was awful. And we were going to go around the town and kind of like talk about his family's history and stuff. So it didn't go very well. And then...

On top of that, it was quite sad because every single thing we went to, we'd be like, this is where your mom used to live. This is the exact street. Look how cool it used to look. And now it looks like shit. And now it's dilapidated as fuck. You know, there was like, the houses were fine, but you know, there was this big school that she went to that would have been really imposing and really cool. And now it was just a field. Yeah. Right. Well, I mean, you know, fuck, it was like how many years ago? Yeah. And then there was the,

where you'd do all your shopping. You'd be like, this is the street right here. And it looks not great. - Yeah, it's not there anymore. - And it looked fucking amazing before. It looked so cool. And so it's raining, it's not going well.

And like every, you know, the information isn't hitting quite, you know, it is, I mean, he's interested. It's cool. It's, but it's just kind of, it's kind of sad. It's quite bittersweet, right? Cause you're seeing like this place where his grandma left, but the place has fallen on hard times. It just kind of makes you think like, damn, this place used to be like something really amazing. And then like on one of the sites, I can't remember what was used to be there, but there was just a fucking CBD vape shop.

where there used to be something like really epic and amazing it's like this is so sad this is so sad of all the things that could have been yeah yeah it was just yeah it was uh it was it was it was rough and then i did manage to take him there and there was a um a chip shop that'd been there for a long time we went to the chippy and uh i asked when i went inside i was like it's okay if we can we film and come inside and i kind of told them what we were doing i was like we're

I want my American mate to experience a chippy. And they took it as like challenge accepted. - Yeah, right. - Because they fucking made everything. - Oh my God. - And I've never seen Pete look so miserable eating that food.

- He opens up, have you ever seen the chip chippy like portion size? - I mean, I assume it's the same as Australia. - It's fucking ridiculous. It's like three kilograms of chippy chips. It's fucked. He's trying to eat it and bless him, he's Pete. So he's trying to be like, oh, it's so good. And it was good food, but after like four bites of the chippy chips, you're doing it for calories. You're not doing it for the love of the taste. - This is carb loading max.

And dude, the chip shop was so good there. And all the, everything, weirdly enough, I feel like, and chip shops know this, the chips are like the worst part of the chip shop. Like everything else is so good. Like the sausages, the pies. They had other stuff too that was amazing. I like the chips. Oh, I like only like the first five spoonfuls.

- Okay, yeah. - And then it starts to get really soggy. - It's not the main course. - 'Cause you know, when someone's like, "Oh, this chip is like soggy and like, not like, you know, not crispy and hot." And I'm like, I don't know, part of me is just like, "I like the soggy chips actually." I know that's a hot take, but- - It's situational. I understand what you're getting at. Some days- - We did not have the appropriate cutlery to scoop this.

They were all crumbling. Especially the fish and chips as well. If the chip is too crispy and fresh, I'm like, these aren't fish and chips. No, that's true. Yeah, we agree on that. Yeah, it was...

Impressive. And I think he loved the energy, but I'm not sure if he could eat it again. Was the food good, at least? It was really good. It was just so dense. Yeah, right. It's like pure oil. Yeah. I mean, and it was like 14 pounds for like enough food to feed eight people. It was actually like ridiculous value for money. It was an amazing chip shop. So shout out to them. And then...

- Did you take him to a pub? - We did go, yeah, that night we went to a pub. 'Cause that day was like- - I assume you went to many pubs. - Dude, well actually- - What else is there to do? - So that day was kind of a, it was fun, but it was kind of like, a couple of things went wrong. It was raining. It was kind of a miserable day and there was a lot of driving. It was just kind of like, the driving obviously was the worst part, but we had to drive. So it's what can you do?

And that day we pulled over at one point and I was like, I'm going to call this pub real quick and I'll just see if they're okay with us filming. Yeah. I feel like the odds are no, but let's call up. And as I called it up and this really nice woman answered the phone called Nerys and she, she's, I'm like, Hey, we want to come and film in your pub. I'm going to warn you with live streaming. It's going to look a bit weird and weird.

"Here's what we're doing. We have these, you know, we have this American, I'm trying to show them around." Well, she's like, "Oh yes, no, that's okay. Yes, okay." And I feel like, when I hung up and I was like, I just feel like she didn't understand what we're doing. - Yeah, right. - Like I fully explained everything. Like, I'm like, "We are live streaming. We'll have a big camera. There's a camera guy. There's an American who's loud. I'm sorry about that. I can't fix that. Is it okay if we show up and do it?" And she's like, "Yeah, yeah. But you'll have to talk to the owner when you get here." - Sure.

- Okay, well it's on the way, so it doesn't matter. So I go in, we get to this pub that looks like it's been there for a very long time. And I walk in to go and talk to this pub owner. And as I walk in, it's generally like hot farts, this scene. It's like three old men at the center pub, and they just stare at me and they're like, "What the fuck are you doing in here?"

And I walk into this room and I'm like, "Oh, hi, who should I talk to?" I talk to the owner and this owner comes out. And again, he's just like straight faced, big guy, just staring at me, not cracking a smile at all. I'm like, "Hey, so here's what we're doing. We're trying to film this. Is it okay if we do this? We'll be mindful. We'll not film any of the customers. They don't want to be filmed." He's like,

"Okay, I'm gonna go cook now, so don't bother me." That's what he said. And I was like, "Okay." So we go in and then, you know, obviously it's a little like, oh God, there's like the three older gentlemen, we've got a camera in here now, we're at a pub. But of course, you know, this is nothing for Pete. Within like two seconds, he starts going to the bar, befriending everyone. And he just becomes a local in four minutes.

He starts asking everyone questions. It's so cool to see him do it. He truly is invincible in that situation. It's just crazy watching him do it. I'm always in awe because I think I could do it, but I would feel awkward and I feel like that would come off a little bit. But he's just so good at just getting in the situation and just like putting everyone at ease and cracking jokes, even when the camera's on. Like he's just so good at it.

And it's a superpower, I think. Yeah, definitely. And so immediately within five, 10 minutes, the entire bar is bantering with us and Pete mainly. Yeah. But you know, they're okay with us filming and stuff. It was just great vibes. It was a really cool pub because it was like the most local pub ever.

one of the most local pubs I've been to. - I'm convinced Pete is one of those dudes where you could send him to, you could blindfold him and send him off to any part of the world. And you give him a few hours and he'll be friends with anyone. - I was saying like, you know the Sentinel Island on India, the one that people aren't allowed to go to?

- If we sent Pete, he'd figure it out. - It's like, they're actually pretty all right. - You guys just misunderstood. You guys gotta stop bothering these guys. - I feel like he would get it done. That's exactly what he did. He would like every single time he'd go to the toilet, he would be 15 minutes 'cause he would have a banter conversation with everyone at the bar and everyone at the other customer. He would just get it done. It was so impressive. - Hell yeah. - It was like magic.

that is a situation where I feel like

streaming in a pub, in a very, very local pub with only like five or six customers is really tough. And so to, you know, watching him do that is like, you know, kind of make the atmosphere really chill. Everyone's probably the most exciting thing that's happened to them in the last 10 years. You know, it's true. You go into those local pubs. It's just like any, any little thing that's new and different. Everyone's like, Oh, Americans. I've seen the one TV. It's so tough for me as well. It's like, I feel like because I don't have a Welsh accent at all. Right. Yeah. I feel like I,

I am even more of an outsider than like Pete. - Right. - 'Cause I'm like this pompous Southern British sounding guy who just showed up at a local Welsh pub. And I'm like, no, no, no, I speak Welsh. - I'm one of you guys. - We just went to the Istedfod. Guys, I'm one of you.

I'd be nice. But yeah, I feel like there's a bit of disdain initially when I talk and I sound like this. I sound like a fucking, you know, I sound ridiculous. And so it's hard for me to blend in. Yeah. Because people think like, oh, you're British. It'd be fine. I'm like, no, it's even worse. Yeah. Because I sound British. I don't sound Welsh. Yeah. Yeah, for sure.

But it was great and he you know like absolutely like just handled the situation perfectly and it made that stream really really good Yeah, I think I'd a really really fun. Yeah, the next day we rented out a long boat Then do you know what you know these are the canal boats? I assume it's a boat that is long. It's a canal boat. Okay, and This we can pull it up. So in Wales there is the largest aqueduct in the world I believe okay, and I think maybe we can

- Oh, okay, these things, right? - That one, that bottom second picture on the right. - Oh, that one. - Oh, no, no, sorry, sorry. Right next to it, you had it. Yeah, that. - Oh, I think.

I think I've seen a video on this before. - Yeah, this is the Ponta Casalte Aqueduct. Really cool. And yeah, we went over it on one of those boats. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Nice. - So I called them up and they was like, "Yep, you can rent the boat for the whole day." And there's no questions asked. I don't need a license. I don't need to do anything. They were like, "No, no, it's just like a little-" - Oh, you drove it? - Yeah. - Oh, sick. - Yeah, yeah.

- I guess it is like on a rail. - Yeah. Well, yeah, that part's fine. That part's fine. It's the part where you are actually in the canal. 'Cause we did like a couple of miles. You have to dodge other boats, give way, you have to take over. You have to moor it. You have to dock the boat, which is also hard. All of this was given not much explanation. So we walked up at nine. The safety briefing was 20 minutes long.

And I hadn't started the stream yet because the guy didn't want to be, he didn't say if he did or didn't want to be filmed. He kind of was like, eh. And I was like, okay, you don't want to be filmed. Yeah. Yeah.

So I didn't stream it and I thought, okay, he's going to give us the safety instruction and then we can just go. And then I'll start the stream and we can go, we can introduce the boat. This did not happen. What happened was is that he was like, okay, go on over to that boat. And then another guy got on our boat and started the boat and just went. And then he was like, all right, so, and by the way, the boat's moving and we're about to get onto this aqueduct. And he's like, all right, so yeah. So, you know, you turn this like this. Yeah, just don't lean on it. Yeah, that's about it really. And just make sure you tie it up properly. Yeah.

don't use the middle rope. I was like, okay. And then I was like, what about the other guy said something about teaching us knots. You're gonna teach us knots. He was like, nope. And then he jumped off the boat and got on the side and walked off. And then we were on the aqueduct.

And so then the stream hasn't started and we're fucking crossing the main point of the fucking stream. And I'm like, what the fuck? So I'm like, Pete, just fucking start stream, start stream. So we're trying to get over this boat. And yeah, it was a fucking, it was like, I was like freaking out. And then he taught me and Ian how to drive the boat. And I thought, okay, well, we're on the spirit. I'll let Ian take over.

And so I go down to the live stream. Turns out Ian did not know how to drive the boat, even though it's not his fault. It was very difficult. But I guess for some reason I would just kind of, I was okay at it. I felt really confident in steering it. It's really hard because the boat can't turn when reversing. So you have to kind of,

and you don't have a lot of room. The canals are pretty small and the boat's pretty fucking long. It was very stressful. A couple of things I didn't know we had to do. Like if you went, there's some periods where you have to draw the bridge. Like you have to get off the boat and draw the bridge. And then I didn't know this because we were just following someone else. And so afterwards, when we went through this bridge,

there was a woman who was shouting at us. She was like, you've got to close the bridge. You've got to close the bridge. I'm like, what? What? And so then I sent Ian and Ian went to go and close the bridge, but then we needed a tool that was on the boat. So Ian had to run back.

The boat doesn't go very fast, by the way. It goes less than walking speed. But you're like, oh my God, what the fuck? This is ridiculous. We kept bumping and stuff. It was really fun, though. It was genuinely, it would be such a great boys trip to do. You can rent this thing a whole day or overnight. You can park up in most places. And so when we got halfway, we docked up and then just went to the pub that was outside. And there's an outside area. It was great. Cool.

And it was a lot of fun. Yeah, hell yeah. And that was really, really cool. That might've been my favorite day. I think I've seen a Tom Scott video on this. Yeah. This seems like a very, I'm looking at that and I'm like, this seems like such a Tom Scott video. Yeah, I think it's, I've seen it. I assumed like the Romans built it because it was impressive, but it was built in like 1850 or something by a Welsh engineer. It's really cool. There were some parts where the metal was like cracked and there wasn't much like wall. And so I'm going on it with the boat and I'm like, what?

- And you're really close when you're- - Yeah, I'm looking at some of these images. - It looks terrifying if you look over to the right. - You can just trip and fall on the edge. - Oh yeah, it's genuinely terrifying. You go over like three or four, no, you go over like two different aqueducts on this little thing that we did. And at one point there was a guy who was like stuck and it took like three boats to pull him out. That happened a lot too. The boat would just get stuck.

There's tunnels as well, which is terrifying. It is literally this old ass tunnel that is about your height when you're standing out. And you have to go through it, but you can't go if someone else is coming. It takes a really long time for someone to come and you're not really sure. So sometimes you have to wait. Then one time or like two or three times I had to park the boat up to wait for the boats to go past so we could go. And the boat would just get stuck.

in the mud on the side, 'cause we got too close to the side. And so we'd have to like, I have to like put my foot off the side or like use a fucking stick to like push us off. It was ridiculous. It's like, it was so intense. It was a lot more intense than I thought it was gonna be. And a lot more hands-on. - And look at the risk assessment on that. - I did not have to fill out a risk assessment form for this. - Oh, thank God. - Oh, so this one you didn't have to fill it out? - I had to sign a bunch of waivers though.

that I wasn't gonna damage me or the boat or anyone else. And I didn't. - Or the aqueduct. - Or the aqueduct. And I didn't too. Luckily the aqueduct is like a rail. So that was like the easiest part. But you feel it like moving. But the whole time, all I could think about was the fucking Peep Shrew episode. You ever seen it? - Oh, I know the exact one. - Is that the one where they- - Where they eat the dog? - Yeah, they run over the dog.

You're gonna have to explain this in context, bro. - There's a really famous British sitcom called "Peep Show," which I highly recommend you watch. It's like my favorite Peep Show ever. And there's a whole episode where like, it's kind of like, the way I describe it is it's always sunny, but they get consequences. All their horrible actions. And they're as horrible. They're as horrible as people from "Always Sunny," but they get the consequences on like, it's always sunny where it feels like it resets. So there's like an episode where they,

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and the girls trust them to look after their dog. - Oh my God. - And then they accidentally in the process, run the dog over. - Yeah, they reverse. - Reverse over the dog. - And the dog's called like mummy. - Yeah, you remember the name. - Yeah, and he's like carrying these dog remains around for a while. - Yeah, because they try to burn the evidence, but unfortunately they get caught. So they're like, "Shit, shit." Like just hide the body, right? And so they're like, "What's in the bag?"

And it's like, oh, it's just chicken. We were just barbecuing chicken. Yeah. Oh,

Oh God. And he's eating it. And he's like, Mark, you should eat some. Eat some of the turkey, Mark. And he doesn't eat it. And then she's like, oh my God, is this his name tag? It says mummy. That's how the episode is. Yeah, that's because I think the whole premise of that episode is that it's his like stag do. It's Mark's stag. Yeah, it's Mark's stag or something like that. Oh my God. And it's an iconic episode and quite unhinged. It's probably the most unhinged episode of that show. Yeah, it sounds like it. Anyway, so that was great.

Fourth day, we went to the highest rated restaurant in Wales. Two Michelin stars. That was the main highlight. We also went to Castle. We went to Carnavon Castle, which is really cool. And Port Merion, which is this really cool Italian Mediterranean style architecture town in Wales. It looks pretty sick. If you type it in Port Merion, it should come up. You're going to have to spell it for Kyber. It should come up. E-I-M-E-I.

Yeah, that one. Yeah, it looks really cool. Oh, wow. Yeah, it's like a kind of like really crazy looking place in Wales. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, that's super pretty. Really, really cool. Highly recommend going. But we went to this fucking two Michelin star restaurant in Wales. And this is by far the most expensive restaurant I've ever booked in my life. Right. But I thought, fuck it. We're in Wales. Let's show that the UK has some good food. And when we pulled up,

It looked like a place where you would be murdered in the film. Because we had to go to the middle of nowhere and it was like a compound. And it was like fields and tents and a mysterious house that was painted black.

And then they had like a cellar that was visible as well. And a big like orange glass door. Like sitting in like Cluedo or something. Genuinely, yeah. It was like really like, what the heck? And I run in and I'm like, okay, we're filming. Is it all good? She's like, yeah. She's like, are you good to, it was like five o'clock. She's like, are you good to go in 20 minutes? I was like, I think so. Yeah, I think we're good. She's like, okay, just so you know, it'll be a 29 course meal and it will be five hours.

I was like, I didn't know that. I should have probably done more research. I just assumed it was like nice. - So that was just a day worth of content. - You were eating for half the day. - Yeah, we were eating for half. So I was like, oh shit, okay, all right, damn. And so I went back to the guy, I was like, by the way guys, it's 29 fucking courses.

And they were like, "What?" And we were all like, "What the fuck?" Full disclosure, the price of this was I think 400 pounds. - Okay. - So like 600, no 500 bucks, insane. - Well, I mean, you are eating enough to feed a small kingdom. - Yeah, 'cause I know people always wanna know. So you can obviously take that in mind. And I think, you know, obviously the whole time people are memeing me 'cause they, dude.

And I know people, this is like, this is the curse of living in Japan. This happened to be at other restaurants too, where like they bring out Japanese ingredients and they're like, this is a hamachi, this is a suit. And you're like, mm-hmm. And then chat's just like spamming, lol, overpaid Japanese food. Lol, lol, lol. So I'm like, I'm sitting there. And then we get inside.

And there's other customers in the room with us in this little lounge area waiting and I'm like, oh, this vibe is like a little intense and I kind of figured it could, I knew it was a risk. I was like, ah shit. And then the wifi dies. And then I'm like, okay, what the fuck? Why is the wifi dying? So I asked the staff, I'm like, can I get on your wifi? Yeah, get on it. So I get on the wifi, doesn't work. Great. So I had my style, like outside of the window we're sitting at, maybe like a meter away from us. It isn't working at all. This is ridiculous. This should, it's right there. It should be working. Yeah.

So I'm like, what the fuck do I do? And normally the way that we live stream, the device that uses it cannot connect to public wifi. 'Cause you know when you need to, when you can't do public wifi and it logs, it brings up a page and it's like, put your email in. It can't log into any of those 'cause it's kind of like a- - Like a security thing. - Yeah, but it can log into public wifi if it's just completely open public wifi. - Right, right. - And it was, so luckily I connect to it and it worked in this one room. It's like, great, it worked. And then in this room, we had a drink and then they gave us the soup.

And this is where I knew shit was about to get real. 'Cause they give us this duck broth soup. I was like, huh, it's like brown liquid. Well, how good can it be? And we take one sip and I'm like, it's the most intense flavor of anything I've ever had in my life. It was like, and I was like, how did you make this? They were like, yeah, it's like duck bones, stuffing, everything they didn't use at the dark. And I was like, this could have been the 29 courses, this duck soup. And best thing was that wasn't even one of the fucking courses.

- So it was actually 30 courses. - That was like the otoshi. - They were just giving you a little something to get you a little excited. I was like, that's fucked up. And they're like, do you want to come in the room and watch him like cut sushi? And I'm like, okay. - I bet you've never experienced this. - So we watch him, you know, and I know they were really sweet about it 'cause they were self-conscious too. They were like, yeah, we know that you all live in Japan. So that, you know, they were understandable about it. And you know, I'll say this, 'cause this has happened a lot where people have like, people assume

and maybe you've had this as well, Jerry, as well, that because we live in Japan or you're Japanese, that you never ever want to try sushi anywhere else in the world. And most of the time, yeah, that's fair enough. That's fair enough. But I've been to some restaurants where they, I wouldn't even call it sushi, what they do with it. They always add some weird stuff or they cook it in a certain way or they prepare it in a way that is, they would never even dare to do it in Japan. It's like a remix of sushi. Yeah, that is always like,

actually quite nice. Like, I've had a couple in LA where I've really liked what they've done with it. They've added some ingredients that I wouldn't have added. Maybe they added some like sriracha powder or something that I wouldn't think to add that I feel like adds a lot. - I mean, look, as much as I, you know, as much as we all know California rolls are not sushi, if there's California rolls on the menu, I'm eating that shit. It's great. - People are like, "Oh, the only real sushi's in Japan." If you want authentic sushi, I guess, I suppose.

- I think sushi- - What even is authentic nowadays? - Adding nothing. It's just fish with wasabi and soy sauce. - Which is great, but again, if you wanna spice it up and it still tastes good. - So if you live in a foreign country, look, your sushi is great too. It's just different. And I think when you come to Japan, you will enjoy a different flavor.

totally i think uh this is gonna go on a tangent but i think food is like especially like modern cuisine has evolved in a way where it's just become a lot more international right yeah there used to be a time where the term like fusion was just like cringe just because it was just like ah okay now it's fucking awesome foreigner tries to cook cuisine of a country they've never been to yeah and but now it's kind of like okay there's a real respect for the

original dish but then there's these local flavors that add to it and a lot of the times I'm like holy shit this fucking slaps because I had a similar experience where I went to me and Sydney had our anniversary in England this year we went to a restaurant in Brighton

And one of the dishes there was chawanmushi. - Oh, okay, okay. - Yeah, and I was like, "Ah, okay." But I don't know, they added some extra seasoning because in Japan it's super simple, right? - Yeah, it's super simple. - It's super simple, but they added some extra ingredients and some local ingredients as well. And I'm like, "I don't know what you added to this, but this doesn't taste like anything I've ever had in Japan." And it tastes different, but it still tastes fucking great.

Sometimes I would argue that the thing that is, you know, remixed from the original food is,

I sometimes feel is even better than the original. Yeah. You know, it's like, it's like, like the way I like to describe it is like, it's like, you know, playing a mod in a game versus just playing the vanilla form. It's like the vanilla game is still good, but sometimes some mods are better than the original game. Yeah. When you've had a lot of sushi, sometimes you want to add some mods to it. Yeah. Add some mods to it. And it, you know, enhances the experience in some ways. So I was really worried initially when it was like a lot of Japanese stuff being shown. They were like, we got Wagyu too. I'm like, oh.

- Of course you do. - All right, sure buddy. Buddy's got Wagyu. All right. And also I feel like Wagyu is just plain overrated. - Yeah. - Yeah. - I feel like- - In most cases it is. - I still, you know, have to, maybe because it's Japan and we've been spoiled, but like, yeah. - It has great marketing overseas. - Oh my God. - I mean, Japanese cuisine in general has great marketing overseas because whenever you go to like a, like,

more like fine dining kind of like establishment. Like 90% of the time is gonna have some kind of like Japanese ingredients, if not a Japanese dish. - Yeah, yeah, for sure. And I think there's like uniformity. Everyone knows Wagyu, right? And I think that helps. Whereas beef, it's like,

I don't really know what is like the big- - But beef from Japan. - Right, right, right. Exactly, right? Where it's like, bro, I've had some of the fucking best steaks in my life in the middle of fucking nowhere. - Yeah, oh yeah, totally. - And I just kind of prefer a normal steak anyway. So yeah, you know, it is what it is. - So you had the Wagyu. - So we, you know, the 29, and we get, and then after the lounge area, they're like, okay, we're ready to seat you. And I was like, oh God. So we go through this room and there's like so many people so close together.

And I was worried that we'd be right next to someone or we wouldn't be able to see anything or get a good angle for the camera. But they were very generous and they literally put us like in front of the chef. Oh, nice. So it's like you can see me and Pete in the kitchen. So it's actually really cool. And it's a really great seat. I think that I appreciate. I know that they, you know, obviously when you're filming, they're going to give you they want to give you a good seat to show off normally. But, you know, so I appreciate that. They're very kind about it.

So we had a really nice seat and it was great 'cause then we didn't have any customers in our shop, which is great. I didn't wanna, you know, if I had paid $400 or 400 pounds for a meal, the last thing I would want is to be in someone's fucking camera frame. - Yeah, for sure. - You know? - That's it. - So I'm completely sympathetic to that. And I, you know, I was very mindful of that. And I did ask them, I was like, can we please get a table where there is an angle where I don't show any customers?

That's like a once in a lifetime experience to go to a restaurant like that. And we're very fortunate that we're fucking privileged streamers and we can go like, oh, it's just a fucking work thing. But yeah, I know there are a lot of people that's like, that might be something they've saved up for years. - I mean, it's a experience. - And it was. - At that point where you are sitting there for five hours having a 29 course meal, you are paying for the experience as much as you are just paying to eat. - My only question before you move on though,

and I always ask this with anyone who ever goes to any kind of fancy restaurant, whether it's Michelin star or not, how good was the bread? - Dude, we didn't have any bread. - What the fuck? - We didn't have any bread. - All right, now I'm interested. - Okay, okay, there's no bread. - Unbelievable. - No bread, I mean, it's 29 course, well, 30. - You'd hope one out of the 29 would be bread.

- Was there really no bread? - I think there was one point where there was bread. - Okay. - Broke on remember. - Wait, no, there was one bread and it was kind of, it was disgusting. - Oh, okay. - It was bread for like- - At least it was gonna be disgusting. - It was like peak bread on its own, but it was with like for scooping up. - Oh, okay. - That's how you know. - That's how you know, yeah.

I said that, okay, really worried. We sit down in this restaurant. There's like two problems right away. For some reason, the wifi that worked and literally the room over doesn't work in this room. So now I need a new wifi. Great. None of my other internet things are working because we're in the middle of fucking nowhere. I'm like, Jesus Christ, why? So I'm asking the staff, can I use your, like the corporate wifi? I can see it's there. And they're like, no. I'm like, okay. I'm like, shit, shit. And I connected this wifi that none of us can connect to on our phone. For some reason it works. So we have the stream. Problem one solved. Problem two,

It is so loud. There is literally a DJ right behind us. There is a DJ spinning disc. And I'm like, what the fuck is this? - At a Michelin restaurant? - At a Michelin restaurant is a guy DJ. And I'm like, this is so dumb. I'm thinking to myself, this is so cringe. I hate this.

But by the end of the night, I'm one over. It works. - He's like, "Damn, he was good." - Yeah, so he's like literally, apparently, and they were telling me that apparently he changes the music every night. It's a different set list. - Right, right, right. - Okay, okay, sure. We'll talk about the music in a little bit. So the courses start coming out and it's all the sushi that starts coming out first. And it's not really sushi. It's like, there'll be a piece of hamachi. And I think,

They all did something like really different with it. Like it wasn't just like sushi and soy sauce. It was always like, yeah, like we're used to. And whenever we go anywhere in like LA or wherever it is in the world. Yeah, they had a bunch of different ingredients. I can't remember off the top of my head. There was 29 fucking courses. It was fire though. It was amazing. Oh yeah, that's good. There was like not a single dish that was like bad. But what was the best dish? Well, you fucking hope so. You're paying 400 pounds. Dude, so, okay. First of all, the one...

We had one guy who was great, very funny, very fun vibes. All the staff was so cool. They were so willing to talk on camera. It was amazing.

It was genuinely so fucking good vibes, which I appreciate because it could have easily have gone not good vibes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like super serious. There was one point in this meal where they brought out the roast duck and this duck had been through the fucking decathlon of preparation. They'd said a bunch of terminology I don't understand. But there was a duck that was...

I'm telling you the smell and the view of this duck was like salivating. It was, I don't know if you guys like roast duck. It was, it was like, oh my God, I can't even begin to describe how fucking good this duck looked. Yeah. Yeah.

And we literally, and then they hang it up. And so me and Pete for like the next eight courses just kept talking about how badly we wanted to fucking eat the duck. - I'm salivating just like thinking about this. - Yeah, right. - And we just kept making it. And like Pete, he was like, "Fuck it, I'll eat the napkin." 'Cause they had like a napkin underneath these ducks hanging and dripping. He's like, "I'll fucking eat the napkin. I'm feral right now. I'll leave my wife for that napkin." And the head chef is like, I guess he could hear it. He's like laughing.

And so after about like 10 minutes, he brings out the napkin for Pete to just have. And then also, I guess he's like, look, this is a little something extra on me. He cut off the skin. Yeah. And he gave us all a piece of the skin that isn't normally included. Just the skin to eat. Yeah. And it was like...

I cannot begin to describe how insane this one bite was. It is fucked up. It's the bite to end all dark. Now, obviously, if I really wanted to eat dark and eat a fuck ton, I would just go to a local Chinese place and get a fuck ton. But as a one bite goes, it was pretty fucked. So that's great. And then the other thing that was really...

It was that there was one dish, let's use the filet, the Wagyu filet. How could they use this? How do you think they would use a Wagyu filet at a Michelin star restaurant? What do you think they can prepare it with?

- There was some weird shit that I didn't know. - Yeah, I don't know. I've only been to a few Michelin star restaurants and every time they bring out something as simple as a Wagyu, I'm like, oh, it'll just be like Wagyu with maybe a bit of sauce on the side and some veggies or something. I don't know, they put it on ice cream or something? - So, okay, first of all, yeah, we did have ice cream. This was the most pretentious one that I was like, this sounds dumb. It was like duck liver ice cream with caviar and something else.

And I was like, "This sounds awful." - Yeah, that sounds gross. - And I'm like, "This is gonna be shit." Every dish was like that. I was like, "This sounds dumb. This sounds stupid. Why would you do this?" And then they'd gone through, like, I think loads of the stuff was grown on the site as well. They had like a bunch of the syrup they use, which was birch syrup or something that they harvested themselves. It was so, like, everything that could be pretentious was pretentious.

I mean, yeah, so the Wagyu fillet, right? This is where we were all like, oh God, Wagyu fillet. I'm paying like fucking a hundred bucks for this one stupid piece of steak. This little metal box comes out and it kind of looks like a, I don't know, like a burger box, but it's like metal. And so they're like, all right, please open the box. And you open it. And on this Wagyu fillet, I see red, yellow, and like a little pickle. They just made a fucking Big Mac.

It's meant to be like a cheeseburger. I'm not kidding. - Wagyu cheeseburger? - He called it the one bite burger or something, I don't know what it was. And it was a Wagyu that had been turned into a cheeseburger. And I was like, okay. Actually, I'm on board. I feel like this must be some kind of joke at like the menu with the burger. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, the burger thing. Probably, yeah. - 'Cause it's like, who wants this, who wants sugar? And honestly, I think it's kind of genius 'cause it's so,

Everything about this restaurant is pretentious. So to have something that should be like a fucking burger, I'm like, I'm so down. They'll kind of like trivialize the pretentiousness in a way. And it was fucking godlike, obviously. Of course. It was amazing. Everything was amazing. It was fucking stupid. There was not a single dish that was bad. And the DJ would change songs with every dish. And then as you would bite it, the fucking beat would drop on a bunch of the songs.

I don't know if he was doing it to me, but it was coincidence. But occasionally he would bite into it and he would fucking, the beat would drop. It was ridiculous. And then it was kind of fun. - It's like a TikTok edit. - It was ridiculous, dude. And actually, you know what? It was kind of nice 'cause it took, I'd been to like a couple, you know, I mentioned we went to the, I went to the one in Belgium. It was like, I accidentally booked a fucking Michelin star restaurant. Didn't know. I went there for a fucking lunch 'cause I thought it would be cool in a church. That was like really like stuffy and it felt like,

if I had dropped my fork even like a little bit, everyone would be like, "Grr." But this was like, it kind of made it a lot more fun, like a lot more casual. - Yeah.

And then like Pete was joking like, "What are you gonna do? Get like a disco ball?" And then on the last dish, they fucking dropped the disco ball. It's fucking ridiculous. It's so stupid. It's so stupid. - That sounds awesome. - But then like every, and I wanted to hate so much of it. 'Cause you know, you're like, "Oh, you're being pretentious. It's not worth it." But then everything was just kind of fun. - See, that's what it should be though. - They just made it like really fun. And like the food is phenomenal. - Yeah.

Pete, of course, he was bantering with some of the other customers. - Of course. - They were like reacting. They were like, you know, going crazy when they're eating this food going, "Oh my God." And Pete's like, "That's amazing, right?" And everyone's like, "Yeah." So it's all really like just, it was just like phenomenal vibes that all got really well and all the staff was so sweet and yeah. - So worth the price tag? - Yeah, the most important thing is, is it worth the price? - Yeah, you know,

Obviously, it's hard to ever justify that because at the end of the day, you're paying for food. And I think it's a thing of if you can afford it, I think for the experience, you get to try expertly prepared food from a bunch of different cuisines and like in a fun environment, like, you know, the amount of time

got into that is kind of absurd. And if you wanted something of that level, it would probably have to cost a ridiculous amount because all this stuff is coming all over the place and being, you know, fucking harvesting trees to make syrup to put in the ice cream. It's ridiculous. So there's no real way to justify it as like a common thing. But if you were like, you know, if you had a really special occasion, fuck yeah. I mean, like what a cool experience. And like, think about the absolute, like the amount of money

staff that were there working on that. It's, you know, it's, it's, it's really ever hard. It's really easy to justify this kind of stuff and the price, but there was a lot of love gone into it and everyone was really nice. And if they were pretentious, I'd be the first person to be like, don't fucking go. Don't waste your money. Yeah. Um, but there are some restaurants definitely like that. Oh, absolutely. I mean, especially a lot of Michelin star restaurants. Oh dude. I, I, I feel like obviously we're very lucky. We've, we've been to quite a lot. Um, we're very, very privileged. Um, and,

more than half of them I would never ever go to again. I just, I don't, or even recommend. I think like, there's generally not worth it. But this one was really, really fun. I'm not just saying that because it's Wales, but yeah, really, really good, good restaurant. And thank you, Anastasia, for being so cool and having us. It was really cool. I, I must go back at one point in my life. I,

- I must go back. - I must go back. - I genuinely, and we still- - I mean, you sold it to me pretty well, sir. - So we stayed there as well, 'cause they have accommodation there. And there's a couple of really beautiful, and it was a shame 'cause it was raining, it was shit, but you'd have a beautiful view of this really amazing estate.

We left in the morning. They said that they prepare breakfast. And in my head, I was like, oh my God, that course is crazy. It's going to be saying ridiculous. And I've lived in Japan. So I'm expecting the most insane breakfast.

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That's what the Spoon is like. - They have made a gourmet Egg McMuffin.

Bro, I'm sold. And I'm not going to lie. I'm sold. It hits so hard. I have never in my life wanted a gourmet egg McMuffin. And now I've had it. I can't live knowing it exists. I can't have it more. It was so fire. Hell yeah. It was like, I think they used, I don't know what the meat was. I think it was like the Wagyu beef that they minced.

into a filet and it was like fresh egg. - I'm fucking hungry boys. - Fresh cheese. - Yeah, I know. - I don't know about you guys. I can't wait for lunch. - Fresh bread. I know dude. It was like, I can't.

I was like slightly hung over because we drank a lot too. And it was, it was- - They knew. - Yeah, bro. - They knew it's like, oh, you've been hung over, this'll hit you. - I was gonna go Farrell, but then he gave us one. It was kind of evil, they only gave us one. - Right. - Next time if I go, I'm gonna request, can I please get two? - No, no, but that's how they beat you back in, right? - Yeah, dude. - It's like they leave you on a cliffhanger and they're like, if you want more of this, you know when to come back. - I'm going back at some point in my life. I don't know when, I've gone back 'cause it was so fucking good that I have to go back. And I, yeah, it's,

It's ridiculous. - I'm gonna need you to drop the location. - I will say, I'll say. 'Cause I know people watch and they'll be like, yeah, that's insane. That's like a monthly salary in certain places. And it is ridiculous. And I know that is. And it's always hard to talk about stuff that's expensive on the podcast. 'Cause people are like, I can't relate.

Well, look, we're not trying to be relatable. I'm just trying to fucking live my life and then tell Fiverr about what's going on. I feel like if we are so concerned with making sure that we're pretending or lying about this kind of stuff, I feel like it's just an injustice to what we're doing. But-

But no, I understand. We're not doing this every other week, guys. Don't worry. This is me just trying to fucking cope and explain why it's justified. You know that guy, the fucking Legend of Zelda CDI, where he's like, me trying to explain why it's okay for me to go here? Yeah. It's fucking ridiculous. It is ridiculous. Anyway, we did that. And then the last day, we just went to my parents' house, had a barbecue. Nice. What a way to end. And then...

Maybe even better than the Michelin star restaurant. My dad makes these sandwiches. He gets fresh sausages from the butchers and they're like tomato infused. And it hits ungodly hard. Because we had to fly the next day and we were all obviously hungover because we drank a lot. So we're on our way to the airport and just eating these sausage sandwiches. The dichotomy of man.

Like 28. Honestly, I think those sandwiches are better than the Michelin star. I would agree with you. And that Michelin star restaurant was God tier, but getting a sandwich from your dad. There is something that just hits different. He was like on the verge of tears eating the sandwich. He was like, this is the greatest fucking thing. Because, you know, he toasts the bread, adds a little bit of butter. Yeah. You know, puts the ketchup on. It's the way you died, man.

- And we go through security and in my bag, I unwrapped the other tin foil and it's there waiting for me. And I'm sitting there with my Pret-a-Manger three pound coffee. I'm like,

I was so sad to leave. And that was the Wales trip. And it was really cool. Sorry for going on forever because I know people who watched any of the stream. No, no, no. It was genuinely really, really cool for me because I really, really wanted to show off Wales and show how fucking cool of a place it can be. And even then I didn't get to show

i could do another five days there was so much more cool stuff that we could have done that we didn't end up doing yeah there's one thing that like a couple of things i couldn't stream that i would love to film at some point like you can i think sleep in the deepest cave in wales

And I think it's like an hour or two hike in a cave. And you could, they've just got wifi and shit down there. - I've seen the story before. - Yeah. - The deepest cave in Wales. - Can you Google deepest cave in Wales camping? - But how tight is it Connor? - This is giving me a real nutty. - This is how it starts. - Yeah, look at this. Wales accommodation office, the deepest sleep, 1300 feet deep. - Jesus Christ. - Yeah, it's like a fucking trek to get there.

- Look at that, that's your accommodation. - Oh my God. - Isn't that sick though? - I would do that. - Right? And I would love to stream that, but maybe that's a wacky weekend. - Oh yeah, good luck getting wifi down there. - Wacky weekend with Chris, he'll hate me. He'll never forgive me. But that, isn't that sick? - That's so cool. - And you just literally, like inside the room is, look at that first image. That's so fucking sick. You're in a fucking cave.

That's cool. God forbid the... God knows what creatures are down there, though. What kind of creepy crawlies you'll find. Let's just hope we don't have a cave-in or anything like that. Yeah, I know. But yeah, there's a ton of other stuff that I would love to do and film at some point. Some stuff I'd love to just film because they're not very good for streaming. But yeah, overall, like, really, really, really cool. And such an amazing country. And I'm glad I got to show it off. And hopefully I can go back in the future and show it off more again. And yeah, thank you so much to everyone who helped make it. And obviously...

Visit Wales helped me a lot as well. The Welsh government helped so much with getting permission for everything and sorting everything out. And they were the go. And it was really cool. Hell yeah, dude. Very cool. Went to TwitchCon. That was fun. I choked it right in the end of their chess tournament again. Of course. I was winning too. I was winning.

- I think that's just gonna be you anytime you play chess now. - Well actually, the last chess tournament I did before this one, I did win. - Okay. - But you almost choked that. - I did almost choke that too. - The other guy just choked harder. I remember watching that chess match. I was just like, oh, Connor's choked. He's in a losing position. - I went for Hail Mary and it worked. - You played the biggest hope chess I've ever seen in my life.

- You got it dude. - Yeah, I was actually crushing this guy and then yeah, I lost. So that was sad. - Have you seen that recently over on TikTok, there is now a big like chess boom that has happened ever since Magnus lost that match? - No, I didn't know. - Have you seen this clip? - Yeah, I've seen the clip. - The one where he like rages? - Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's become like a huge meme on TikTok now. - I mean chess, I feel like chess is always in. - Yeah, there's all these people on TikTok who are just like discovering professional chess now. - I'm like, there's another boom?

Yeah, there's a number of rooms that's happening. It just keeps growing now. It just keeps winning. That's cool. It was just really surreal just seeing all these memes around chess. It's like, wait, when the fuck did this happen?

- I mean, I also went back to England as well. The United Kingdom, the UK actually. - The actual UK. - The actual UK. But I wasn't there for long. Basically was there because I helped sort out a stag do or for the Americans out there, a bachelor party and I was there

It was actually for a mate from America, actually. He's having, I guess, we have like a, as you know, like a friend group in England and he wanted to have like a small little celebration, a small little stag do in England as well. So nothing like too big, too major. And I was like, sure. What cities do you want to see? And he was like, okay, what are the best cities for stag do's, right? And I was like looking it up and I was like, oh, okay. There is, so Stag,

If you want to go down south, where most of my mates are, most of our mates are, Google is telling me that some of the best cities are Brighton or Bristol, that's very good, or Bournemouth as well is a nice, cool, apparently nice, cool town. And he looked at it and he was like, huh, I see. So you've given me a choice of...

the city you were born in or the city you went to university in. I was like, is there some bias here? I'm sensing, I'm like, no. - Or once I begin with B. - Look, look, look, I didn't have any choice that I went to banger cities in my childhood, okay? Look, I'm just giving you what Google is telling me as well.

So eventually he chose Brighton, which was good because that means planning was like super easy for me. - You have to get a hotel. - Yeah. - Nice. - Well, we did get an Airbnb right in the center for all the boys, literally like walking distance. I didn't even know this Airbnb existed. And I don't know, I think one thing that I've,

found out from having like my own stag do and seeing other people's stag do and now like helping to plan this one is that you know people have an image of what like a bachelor party or a stag do should be you know you get fucking pissed drunk most of the times maybe do some activities uh but a lot of the times i've i've heard stories where people don't

Don't even ask the stag what vibe he wants. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. Cause I mean, yeah, they don't know. Right. Yeah. Yeah. So people just like throw in what they, what they seen from like the hangovers or something like that. Sure. You know.

But like he said, I gave him a bunch of activities. I was like, we can do this, we can do that. We can do some fucking, you know, extreme stuff. - Paintball is the big one in the UK, right? - Paintballing is the big one. - Yeah, paintball is the big one. - Paintball is the big one, so is go-karting as well. That's a big one. - Just kind of some guy-ish kind of thing. - Yeah, that is the most like boys-ish. - Yeah, and getting a drink afterwards.

But he actually wanted a pretty chill weekend. He was like, I gave him a bunch of activities. He was like, okay, we got paintballing, go-karting. We can do quad biking as well. We can do some other like ax throwing or all this other like man stuff. And he's like, oh, I want to do crazy golf. And I was like, all right. If that's your vibe, this is your fucking weekend. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And yeah, I mean, we... So we did like some...

- Did you take him to the glow in the dark one that's in Brighton? - Yes. - Yeah. - Did Felix take you to that one as well? - Felix took me to that one, yeah. - That was actually so fun. - It's so cool. I fucking love that place. - I'm like mini golf in the dark, it can't be that sick, right? And you go and it's like, oh, this is sick. It's so cool. - Yeah, I had done, it'd been so long since I'd done mini golf. - Yeah. - And,

I think I had an advantage because I'd just come off from playing actual golf with Sydney's dad in the winter. So my putting skills are shit. But I didn't realize my putting skills are probably better than the average person 'cause people don't know how to putt at all. And there was, we went to this mini golf where

Each course, if you got over six, you just had to call it like the maximum was six. And I was like, okay, I got a few hauling ones. My average was like, you know, three, two. I was looking around and of course you have like 12 drunk lads. Fuck it. It was like, we were, it was like, we were like trying to get the numbers of devil. All I see on the scorecard is like six, six, six, like everywhere. Yeah.

- So you won if you just got it in less than six? - Yeah, yeah, yeah. I literally, I won, I'm not trying to be a cheater,

I'm not trying to brag, but I fucking destroyed the rest of the boys and I didn't even get par. I got like over par. I got like plus, my over score was like plus three. And the next one was like plus 13 or something like that. - Oh my God. - Jesus Christ. - But yeah, mini golf is fucking fun. But I also booked like some other activities that he didn't know about as well.

There's this game show experience in Brighton at a pub. Everything I booked was just happened to be at a pub as it is in England, sure. But there was this game show experience that you can do in Brighton, highly recommend it. I think it's at the North Lane Brewery that also have a bunch of other games as well.

There is this basically racing car experience like RC cars in another pub as well. I think it's the World's End Pub in Brighton, which also has an entire top floor arcade as well. - Hell yeah. - I highly recommend that. The boys fucking love that shit. - Hell yeah, dude. - Yeah, the World's End Pub, Brighton, yeah.

- Yeah, there's an entire top floor arcade. - That's cool. - So yeah, if you go like that picture right there. So there's an arcade right in front of that. - Oh, that's sick. - And yeah, we just spent like a day getting fucking drunk and I was like, all right, 10 boys come up. We're gonna race some cars. - Fuck yeah. - That's sick as fuck. - I fucking sucked 'cause I came last every single time to the point where,

- You know, I was doing so bad and you could tell some boys were taking this way more seriously than other boys. I just did so bad, I tried sabotaging the other boys. And meanwhile, one of the boys next to me being like, "All right, I got the perfect line coming up here." And I was like- - Hit the apex. - Hit the apex of the corner. I got the perfect turn and I'm like, "Bro, chill, chill, bro, chill."

But yeah, this is a higher recommended if you got, just doesn't even need to be a group of lads. Just- - Yeah, that was fun. - This is just a fun ass experience in Brighton. - That's great. I gotta go there. - And right in the center of Brighton as well. And most of the time you don't need to book because it's not, I took them to places that are not in the center center, but somewhere where it's,

not easily findable for like tourists and stuff because when people go to Brighton, most of the time they want to go see the pier, they go by the seafront and stuff like that. And to me as a local, I think that's bait because holy shit, there are so many fucking people there. And a lot of the comments you say, you see when you say, oh, I'm showing a stag do in Brighton is that

don't go to Brighton because you're not going to be able to find places to that will bars that you win. And that is true. If you stay in the center by the seafront, where,

basically everyone else is, all right, I'm tourists. But if you go just a little further out, you can go to like pubs like this. I took them to a bar where you basically, it's you request your own song as well, where you just, as a group, you just make your own playlist. And I just basically took them on the bar crawl. And, you know, I tried to add a little bit of a personal touch as well. I don't know about you guys, but

I find it a fucking nightmare booking a nice meal for 12 boys or just like a big group in general. Someone's always going to be picky. Yeah. Someone's always picky. And also it's like this balance of like finding a good restaurant versus finding a restaurant that will actually fit 12 people. Oh my God. 12 people is a nightmare. In Japan that's like impossible.

Yeah, exactly. Yeah. So I was like three months in advance. So far ahead. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Yeah. We're going to weekend for 12 people in Japan. Yeah. So I was like, don't worry.

You're my boy, I'm gonna give you the best meal of your life. Cooked in my world famous lasagna. - Oh, let's go. - Cost effective. - Cost effective as well. - How many lasagnas was that, like eight? - Huh? - How many lasagnas did you cook? - I cooked a lot of lasagna. - Yeah, that's 12 boys. That's a lot of fucking lasagna. - And it was gone. - Jesus. - It was fucking gone, but we had a good weekend. I actually,

I actually met a few fans and a lot of times when we talk about fan experiences, it's like, oh, I had this like awkward fan experience. This is the first time I think I gave a fan an awkward experience. I actually turned the tables, right? Because we were in the middle of a stag do. We were in the middle of the stag do and obviously I was leading the boys. So I was like walking far ahead.

And I get stopped by a fan and I'm like, oh no, oh no. And he was like, yo, can I take a picture? Is it okay? And I'm like, sure, sure. Let's make it quick. I wasn't saying this for me because I knew what was about to happen. So he quickly takes the picture. And then all I hear is a crowd of boys going,

Hey, yo, is that the anime zone? Yo, you're a fan of the anime zone. You like this man? And I was like, oh, I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. Like this poor guy. He just did you see me? I'm so sorry. On a stag do right now. I knew there was a timer before they saw me.

And just hanging out with obviously a group of boys who are not so versed in like the YouTuber sphere. - Who are also pissed as well. - Who are also inebriated. But yeah, I'm just glad like, I'm just glad I got to show the boys around Brighton. Brighton has changed so fucking much. It is such a different city. There is not only like so much more to do there now,

There are some places that have just gotten way too fucking crowded for my liking. The one biggest change I wasn't a fan of was they now charge. So Brighton has a pier, it's the Palace Pier, right? It's been free my entire life. And this time going back,

is the only time I see that they started charging people to go in. And I'm like, it's done. Brian's gone too popular.

- Are you charging two pounds entry to go into the pier? - Just a piece of fucking wood. - Yeah. - What the fuck? - To go to the amusement fair? Wow, not my Brighton anymore. - Fuck, that's lame. - Yeah. - That is lame. - But I did have, on the trip in general, it was nice. I also got to see like friends and family, got to see my nephew, oh my God.

So my nephew, if you remember, I gifted him before I gifted my nephew a bunch of different manga, right? From, I believe we gifted him Villain Saga, Naruto, Alchemist. Like giving a time capsule of cultures or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Just throwing out every different genre. And so we were like, oh,

oh, we're gonna see him again. So I hit up my cousin, his mom. I was like, oh, what was the one that he liked the most? And she was like, oh, there's one that he reads like daily. And I was like, okay, okay. Which one is it? It was Orange. What? Orange? Orange?

- What? - Orange? - He likes orange? Wow. - Okay. - I was like, okay, my boy's into shojo. - Okay. - Okay, okay. - Slightly based. - Yes, yes, yeah. That I was not expecting because I did not even put orange in there. - Yeah, he just found that. - No, it was Sydney. - Oh, okay, okay, okay. - It was Sydney bringing like the female touch. - Sure, sure, sure. - I'm gonna throw in some,

- Some Shoujo manga. - Entry level Shoujo. - Yeah, entry level Shoujo manga that I enjoyed. - Yeah, sure, sure, sure. - But yeah, apparently he really likes orange and I want to eat your pancreas as well. - Oh shit. - So I was like, will you give him I want to eat your pancreas? - Yes. - That was also Sydney actually. - Of course it was Sydney. That didn't need to be said. - I mean, it's a fantastic manga, but wow, it's based. - Yeah, I was like, my boy's got some base taste, man.

And so we were like, so I was like going around the manga shop. I was like, shit, well, this is completely repro. Throw me off about what manga I should be giving to him. It seems like he likes some of the more emotional stories. Yeah. The sensitive romances. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I gave him, so obviously we gave them more volumes of orange. I was like, hmm.

I was like, I actually didn't know what else to recommend. What else to introduce them to. Maybe like blue box.

- Blue Box, yeah, yeah. I was thinking like Fruits Basket. - Oh yeah. - You know, Fruits Basket. - That's a solid one. - That's a cute one. - 'Cause a lot of these are just like shows that, you know, I'm proud because I'm like, this is going down a completely different path to what I- - You very quickly strayed away from the normie path. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. - I mean, I was praying for not Naruto. - Yeah. - And when I got to see him again,

He was like, oh, I've got a gift for you as well. And I was like, for me? You got a gift for me? And it's the first time I've been gifted someone by, you know, one of my nieces or nephews. And he, apparently it was his money that he had saved up from his allowance. And...

he gave me a Minecraft key chain because he just went to a Minecraft event and I'm just like, I don't play Minecraft, but this is never coming off my key chain. - Now you have to. - I'm like, holy shit. - That's so cute. - Can you imagine you're already like the cool uncle who has shown him the world of manga. Dude, if you fucking master Minecraft on top of that shit,

- Bro, you are like ultimate uncle status. - Yo, when are we next playing Minecraft? 'Cause I need to start me playing Minecraft now. - You're gonna start quoting the movie to him. He's gonna go, "I am Steve." - It's like, you know, "Chicken Jockey." - Ender Pearl, am I right? - Ender Pearl. But yeah, after seeing some friends and family, there was this thing that kept cropping up that is nothing to do with seeing friends and family, but-

I wanted to bring it to you boys, because this is more of a general topic. And it's a topic that I'm going to say and people are going to be like, oh, okay. But I've noticed that it is slowly becoming a part of our normal lives. So AI. AI.

- So obviously we are very, very well versed in, you know, the anime community, the artist community, especially online. There seems to be a certain discourse and a certain mentality towards- - I see where you're going with this. - Towards AI, right? And I agree with that on my personal moral compass, right? But there were certain points within this trip that,

that I encountered something that was just like, you know, I'm not entirely happy with it, but it's something that was to me in a gray area. All right. So I've actually got a list, right? - Okay. - If this happens to you, where would you think, how would you react to this? Like internally, not externally, how would you react to this internally? - Okay. - All right. - Okay.

On the stag do, right? One of the boys wants to gift everyone a nice little memoria, right? So they make a bunch of pint glasses for everyone and they had laser engraved a cute little art piece just for a memoria for the stag do. With like the stag name and a cute little art piece. Art piece was AI generated.

I see. I see. They would not have gone out and hired an artist themselves, but they just wanted to do something nice to give everyone a nice little memorial to take home for this memory. How do we feel about that? I wouldn't want it. I don't know. I feel like...

What would have made it special is that you had kind of maybe got this artwork. And I understand that he wouldn't have got it, but I think I'd rather not have it than have it in my mind. Because I feel like having a piece of, like for the group, in my head is like, okay, well,

a computer has decided this is what our stag is and now I got to keep this glass thing. This little shitty drawn artwork that doesn't look very good. Yeah, I think I would have been happier if like that, the person who had gifted that and had found that AI artwork would have just drawn a really shit picture themselves. I think that would be more memorable and funny. Or like, you know. Man, for me, even just having like a Polaroid on my fridge or something rather than a pint glass that, or like,

I don't know, buy everyone the same fucking ring. Even if I don't wear it, I can keep it in my life. I feel like there's a lot of better options that don't require you to use AI. I feel like that scenario, I know that you're not selling it or anything like that. I feel like I'd be like, man, why don't you...

Why'd you go do that? Yeah, because it also in a weird way taints that memory slightly because like every time you look at that glass now, it's like, oh, you remember the good times, but then also this AI image is staring back at you as well, you know? Yeah, because I- It's very conflicting. Yeah, I was conflicted as well, but it was just like, to me, I saw that- I mean, they're probably really excited about it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because here's the thing, all-

all they wanted to do was just have a, have a nice thing just to celebrate this memory that we were about to create. And of course, yeah, they, they were never going to go out of their way to, you know, hire an artist or anything like that. It was just something that, cause honestly, um,

I didn't even know it was AI generated. That's the thing, you know, it was kind of just a clip art. It was the equivalent of like a clip art kind of thing. - Yeah, right, right. - I wouldn't have been able to tell at all.

But it was just a person trying to give something cool for the group and just trying to add just this little thing. Yeah, sorry, sorry. Yeah, yeah, go for it. I think this is my main issue with creative AI is that, like you said, right? He's using it because he would not have got an artist. Yeah. In my mind, I feel like...

People use that as a defense. And it's like, I'm not defense, but like to justify, right? I'm using this AI because I never would have got this artist. And it's like, I don't think AI should be a tool that just allows people to like, how do I say this? Like,

you're not entitled to have a fucking art, you know what I mean? Or an artist. And so in my mind, it's like, you feel that you are entitled to get this thing. And so you are just asking this machine to allow you to do it and circumvent everything. It's like a game when people ask like, is it okay to use AI voices or anything like that? It's like, your game doesn't need AI voices.

It doesn't need voice acting. There are plenty of extremely successful games that don't have voice acting and have managed without voice actors. You're not entitled to have like voice acting in your game just because you're making a game. And I think that like,

there should be like a better solution and more effort put in. You are just using AI to shortcut having to put any work in, to just skip a bunch of process. And in turn, you are harming people who actually do work in that thing that you are trying to then take advantage of. I think that's the problem is that like,

It's like a thing, I wouldn't have made something. It's like, yeah, but you fucking just, you did. - Yeah, but it's also that- - You did use it and you could've. - So you thought about it. - Yeah, but like not to give like the benefit of the doubt, but it's also that situation where like, A, this isn't like, you know, something that was made for commercial purposes, one. And two, I assume,

your friend that made that is not really in touch with like the artist community online, right? So they don't feel as strongly about it as say we do. - This is why I wanted to bring this up because everything I'm about to mention is all examples of just people I've hung out with that are

are just normal people. They are just living their lives. They are not a part of this conversation at all. - So in their mind, it's like, oh, what's the problem when it's just 12 pint glasses or however many it was and I'm not selling it or anything. And it's more for like a sentimental thing. Like what's the harm done in that? I feel that's the argument that gets thrown by. - It's because I'm not like, I think,

We're all obviously adult enough to recognize that we're not fucking stupid, that it doesn't fucking matter if someone made pint glasses with their eye. It doesn't matter, right? Realistically. That person is not the fucking needle that is moving. I think it's just like,

the more normal it comes to do that. Like, oh, I'll just get AI for this. Oh, I'm redoing my kitchen. Let me just get AI to design it. You know, like, it's like the more normal, actually, that doesn't sound like a bad idea in terms of like using, like, I think as a tool, there are uses. Like if you wanted to, like I just fucking said, if you want to redesign your kitchen, fuck it. Get it to generate what a kitchen might look like. Who fucking cares? But like, I think when you're asking it to like,

you are like distributing artwork or you're kind of like, you're making it more normal to make artwork and use that artwork. I think that's where it's like an issue. I think like, if I need something to gather, like I think there is a lot of value in it sorting information, like sorting your, your,

your fucking speech into bullet points so you can remember it easier. Like that kind of stuff is super useful. Do you have an Excel spreadsheet that needs to be cleaned up slightly? Great, get the fucking robot to do it. - Yeah, totally. - I think like, we've always had AI or creative tools that have been adaptive, but I think it's the way that we're using it and how normalized it should come. I think ultimately you're not fucking entitled to skill that people work very hard on. - Yeah, okay, next example, okay?

Your family member has a wallpaper of a family portrait that's been put through the Ghibli AI filter. - No, I will personally call out my family if that shit happens. Especially if it's like, if they come up to me and they're like, "Hey Joey, we know you like Ghibli. We know you like anime. Look at this cute gift we made through AI." I will be like,

- Bro, I know so many artists that could have done that. - Well, no, no, no, no. It was a phone wallpaper on their phone of their family portrait. - No, I'm calling them out on that shit. - Yeah, I think that's easier than the glass one, 'cause the glass one, they've already made it, they've brought them. I'd have a hard time being like, you know, I would probably be like, "Hey man, I appreciate it. I'm kind of good. I don't want the AI shit." If I knew it was AI, I mean, that's the problem. I wouldn't fucking know, probably, like you said. - Yeah, that's the problem, right? - The Ghibli thing? All right.

I think the way the process would be like, all right, do you, why? Why couldn't you just have a picture of your family? Are they too ugly? Yeah. Why do we have to animify your family? Are they just straight up too fucking ugly to look at? Come on. Okay. Then if, if no, you really like it, you really like, I really like this artwork. I think it's,

It's cool. It's way better than the picture of my family for some reason. Okay. All right. All right. So then you'd ask, all right, well, then why don't you just hire someone to, you could find an artist on any of these websites. Fiverr, whatever the fuck. The Fiverr is terrible, but there are a lot of websites where you can hire artists, even if you're not in the Twitter sphere of artist connections. I'm like, just ask me. I'll find you an artist if you don't know where to look for it. And if you're like, well, I don't know if I want to.

I don't want to pay for it. I'm like, then why do you have it as your phone background? 'Cause clearly you don't care enough about it to fucking pay for the skill to be put into making you fucking Ghibli. Just put your picture of your family, like every normal person. - Yeah. - God damn it. - Yeah. - I think I would, yeah. - Yeah, the Ghibli AI thing is- - I would say something. - Yeah, I would say something. - I'd be like, why do you have AI? Is my face too ugly for you to look at? - Take a nice picture right now. - Let's just take a picture right now together. - The picture that you put into the machine to make this, use that. - Just use that.

- But it's not pretty and colorful. - You're not entitled to it. You're not entitled. - Next example. One of your bros tells you that, here's the big one. Here's the big one that started the big debate. One of your bros tells you that they have jacked it to AI hentai before.

- That's a no, that's a no. I thought you were gonna say, "What if your best man used AI to write a speech for the wedding?" I was like, "That's a tough one." No, this is a no. This is the one where I was like, "Nah." - He would not be my bro anymore. - I already know in the head of the friend group, I know which one would have done it.

I think I know who. - I would have a stern conversation with them to be like, so what made you want to do that? What was it about this particular piece of- - I'm gonna ask you after the episode if it was this person, I think it is. - Okay. - So what is it about this particular AI generated piece of hentai animation that made you go, "Mm, yes." - No, what's crazy is that there's so much hentai and there's so much porn. We don't have a shortage.

- It's one of the things we have an absolute abundance of. - I 100% agree, but you know, as AI gets better and better, you know, 'cause right now I'm like, I'm like, yo, fucking doujins all the fucking way, right? - Yeah.

But you know, AI is going to get better and better. And you know, people would just be fucking horny, you know? - Bro, I just, when I watch "Hentai", I'm like masterful artwork being created. It's beautiful. 'Cause voice actors hired, animators composing every shot. I don't want a fucking ones and zeros composing this shit. I'm not trying to beat off to the matrix. I'm trying to beat off to some fucking beautiful artwork. - 'Cause what all this made me realize, right?

All of these fucking- - This is like irredeemably down bad by the way. - Yeah, yeah, we can all agree. - What all of this made me realize is that I just realized how important I think intent is, right? - Yes. - I think to me, intent is everything. And when I see like an AI piece of art, for example, especially if it's like, let's say in this case, it's like AI hentai, right?

I'm like, as soon as I know a piece of art is AI, I'm like, it is empty to me. And I didn't realize this because to me, now that I thought about it, now that I think about it, to me, like art is kind of like a communication between,

a person and the artist, even in fucking hentai, right? Even in the smuttiest fucking doujins, knowing that a person- - I agree even more so. - There is a degenerate that is just- - Yeah. - There is a- - Take this shit out. - There is a degenerate that knows

what they want to put down on paper. And that is to make the most fucking degenerate stuff. Like this is the shit I'm into and I hope you will be into it as well. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - You know when like when you watch Disney kids, when you're a kid and you watch Disney movies and they always talk about like soul and all this shit. You're a kid, you're like, "What the fuck?"

And you actually like, now we're being tested constantly. And if we can recognize soul in things, like is there intent? Is there like a person behind this? Is there like a reason this exists? Does this pass the Goon Turing test? Yeah, exactly. Because to me, the pint glass was like the biggest moral dilemma for me because I look at that and I see the intent behind it. And I'm like, you know, I look at that and I'm like,

that was a good fucking weekend. - And also all of these hypotheticals, right? Like, you know this mate, the viewers have no idea who this person is. They don't have any of the background of, you know he's a good bloke. He's a good guy, right? And he's a good man. - Oh no, everyone I'm talking about is a-

- Good fucking blood, on the level. - It's so easy to answer this hypothetical when you don't know the person. I think it'd be like, that's wrong. I would have said something. It's like, well, you know, maybe it's your mate and you know it was harmless and you know it wasn't a big deal. - But you gotta think about it in the shoes of say, if it was your mate personally. - But then I don't want every fucking mate gathering to have a fucking commemorative item with AI artwork on it.

I want to stamp that out right now. - No, no, no. - This better not be the norm. - I agree with that. On the other side, I also don't want to be that fucking person who like anytime someone does something out of like good will- - You live in the real world. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't want to be like, "Oh, you fucking dickhead. I can't believe you fucking done this." - And a lot of the fucking conversation you have online about this, people don't,

like they talk like they've never fucking been in the real world. It's ridiculous. The way people talk online, you'd think that like they've never interacted with a human being. Yeah, exactly. And it's gotten like,

- I don't want to talk to my mate like a Twitter person talks to another Twitter person. - Yeah, you're like, you're fucking quote, retweeting IRL. You're just shouting at him and just trying to like- - At Croc, is he a terrible person? - Oh, you use AIR? Well, you are actually one of the worst people in the world. - Realistically, I would take it and be thankful. And there'd probably be a point in the night where I was like, "Hey man, I just just share it now. Like, I'm not really like too big on the whole AI thing. And like, I appreciate what you did." - I will keep this, but maybe next time let's not do that.

Especially because it's like, you know, there's a lot of like adjacent industries doing voice acting and stuff like that too. Or music. There's like a lot of, yeah, it's not good for us. It's like not really bad. So, you know, I'm sure, you know, a lot of the time people who aren't in those adjacent industries, it's kind of hard to appreciate why we might be upset about it. Well, it's because like, I think what this made me realize is that it's just going to become more

- This is gonna be a constant thing. - This is gonna be a constant thing. So I'm like trying to figure out how do I approach this? Because I think the biggest way to push people away from like, hey, you know,

there is a moral compass to this is number one, not to like shout at them every fucking time. - Yeah. - Unless that's never proven to work. - Unless they jack off to hentai. - Unless they jack off to hentai. - Then they'll be like, get your hand off your dick right now. - That is actually diabolical. That's diabolical. - Cut that shit out. - That's like, that's genuinely,

- That's so bad. That's so bad. - Yeah, that's fucked. - Have you seen the stats of people who have a romantic connection now to these chat bots?

I assume it's quite high. - It's a worrying amount of people who have like a dependence on talking to chat bots now. - Yeah, right. - It is genuinely worrying. Like, yeah, it's just worrying. - Talk to someone guys, please. - Yeah. - A human. - That's the problem. They don't know how. It's quite sad. - Yeah. - Yeah. 'Cause they're pretty good at learning you these machines. - But it's fucking weird to think now where, you know that we grew up in a time where we are the generation

that grew up in a time before the internet, but also experienced the birth of the internet as well. And we are the ones preaching that, "Hey guys, the internet isn't the world, the internet isn't life, there is a world outside that." - It's cool, but a balance is necessary. - Yeah, and we are the best generation that is educated enough to tell everyone else that what is a healthy relationship with the internet.

bro, you fucking Gen Zs and Gen Alphas. This is like, what this made me realize that it's up to you now because you have lived in a world before AI content and you're gonna live in the world after AI content. So it's gonna be up to you guys to preach to like fucking Gen Betas or whatever to be like, yeah, this-

this is how your relationship with AI content should be because it is going to become a part of our lives. - I just think how much cooler would you feel when you got those beer glasses, if you'd known that he'd hired an artist like direct, like that's so sick. That's like irreplaceable. - Yeah, no, absolutely. - And now it's just like, oh, okay. - But it's almost impossible to have this kind of situation, this conversation online because more likely than not, you're gonna get like, shut up, punk, you fell off.

at Grok block him you know but no I think it is important and again it's all about yeah intent and also just in terms of just how you interact with things like AI things with the internet now that it's just going to become more and more normalized and look

- At the end of the day, we might just be old man yelling at cloud and this is a war that we're not gonna win when it comes to like the dependency of AI. - I don't think we are going to win. - I think it's all about, we're not saying AI equals bad. It's just like, you know, a balance is very, very important. - We need some kind of way to like,

There's too much AI stuff now. There needs to be a way we can watermark real things. Yeah. I can't. Yeah. I don't know how. But, you know, I feel like we don't need to because it's like, it's gotten to that point now where like, you know, enough people are interacting with AI and, you know, as you said, right? Like there's that point where you look at something that's AI and it feels soulless. Yeah. And,

On the contrary, you look at something that is human made and as corny as it sounds, it's like you can feel the spirit or the soul of it, right? Fucking dumb ass people on the internet can't. But that's the thing. It's like, that's what people need to figure out though. Well, I think the best example for this in terms of like,

feeling that connection between, hey, this is a piece of art made by a human versus made by AI. Like I remember watching the AlphaGo documentary where it's like, you know, this is when, this is when like AI players first started becoming a thing where I think it was Google or something made an AI that could play Go, which is one of the most complex games like on earth, right?

And they played one of like the top plays of Go. And I'm pretty sure anyone who's ever tried to play against an AI chess, like robot or anything like that, where you just, there's something suffocating about it, right? Because there was this line in the documentary where,

the person was losing against the AI. And subconsciously he would try to look into the eyes of the person playing it. And then he realized this person, which is putting down

that the computer told him to put down. And there was just, he looked at this person and nothing came back. And it's just like, yeah, that's how I feel whenever I see something and I'm like, I know it's AI generated. When I look at something and there's something

- You're looking at it, but it's not looking back at you. - Yeah, it's so weird because like you said, as a child, you're like, what the fuck is this soul thing behind art? And now I fucking get it. Because to me, I look at something made by a human, it could be the shittest piece

or ever, but I'm like, someone made this. There was intent behind this. There was thought behind this. - You feel some value towards it. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Whether that, even if it's not necessarily like the best thing ever or anything that like necessarily moved you or anything, it's like, oh, but I still see the value in this because someone took the time and the creative energy to actually make this thing. And you know. - Very annoying. - Yeah. - And it's annoying that people,

Just keep calling everything fake or things that are real. They'll face our old things are fake. They call real On my my second channel we work with a lot of artists to make the thumbnails if you want to pull up for a second and the thumbnails honestly so fucking go did mmm and The amount of fucking comments we get people like this is AI and

The drawn ones, you can see. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Something like movie posters. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Like some of them are insane. Like that one, like the mouthwashing one. - Yeah. - There's some like true, like we've tried to draw as many cool ones as we can. And so many times people are like, "This is AI." It's like, "Shut the fuck up."

Yeah, it is annoying. It's kind of scary where it's getting to the point where you look at any piece of art and the first thing people think of is this AI.

- Yeah. - It shouldn't be that way. - I mean, I hate it. - It should not be that way. - It's gotten to the point where I've been fooled sometimes and now I'm like second guessing myself. - Everything, yeah. - It's so hard to tell. - It's something that I fucking despise because I think the first time I got fooled by like an AI generated video was there was this video with like

an emotional support kangaroo that got spread around. And I don't know if you've seen this video. - No. - Can you search up emotional support kangaroo? - It's just, yeah, you just have to try and not interact with it when possible. Like anything with AI voices on shorts or TikTok, I just skip. - Oh yeah. - I just immediately skip. But then again, they're getting good now and it's hard to tell. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - It takes me a second. - This is it. So this was just a funny little thing.

where a woman was being refused entry because of an emotional sport kangaroo. And it was just like, this is a funny little video. Just found out, yeah, that's AI.

- God, that's scary. - You could have fooled me. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 'Cause when you are not looking for it, it's just fucking impossible to tell. And if you do go under a microscope, you can see like, oh yeah, the hand movements are like a little bit off, but no one's focusing on that shit. I saw this and I was like, ha ha ha, I didn't know there was emotional sport kangaroos now. - Do you guys have that one friend that is like insistent that AI can like do everything and they keep fucking bringing it up?

- No, luckily no. - I've got to make the fucking, oh my God. They're just like everything. They're like, I'm gonna ask chatGBT about this. I'm gonna put it like, what? Shut the fuck up. Think for yourself, man. Do something on your own for once. So annoying. - Yeah. - Yeah. Yeah. Luckily, yeah, luckily I haven't, I don't have a friend like that, but yeah, pretty much everyone, including like my parents right now, they,

unknowingly just have AI in their lives. I mean, I think my mom sent me an AI video once. She didn't know it was AI. I could tell- - Yeah, it's not about- - No, I could tell immediately. - The top comment on this Reddit post actually like perfectly sums it up in my opinion.

where they just said it's a pretty convincing AI video, especially for someone casually scrolling, which is what most people do. And they don't think too hard about it. They're just like, oh yeah, it's a video. I mean, I think no one is going to be able to have 100% success rate of catching AI or not. I think it's just going to be like, you know,

are you trying to push it or are you just accidentally interacting with it? I can see a massive difference. But that's also the dilemma, right? It's like people who actually care about that kind of stuff like us, for example, who work in the creative field, we look at this and we see that it's AI and then the argument is like, what are you going to do about it? It's not

it's not gonna stop people from making more AI videos. So it's kind of just like, you're just fighting with yourself at that point. - Yeah, exactly. - Being like, oh, I'm angry, but I don't know what to do with this anger that I have towards these AI videos, unfortunately. - You just have to hope that real art becomes more valuable. - Yeah. - I think it will. - I think it will. - I think it has to happen, really. - I mean, I think at the end of the day, what I think is people will never stop yearning for human connection. - Oh yeah, fuck yeah.

Maybe this is going to be a boomer mentality in the next 30 years. Who knows if the new generation will care or not. There's going to be a lot of shitty side effects that come from this. We'll see. It's going to not be fun. Scary to watch. I think it is very important where eventually...

- It's gotta be watermarked some ways. - Yeah. - The amount of AI stuff being produced over reel is like, it's impossible to even come close to the scale. - Someone's gonna make an AI that will capture AI videos. - Well, I mean, it's a constant arms race now. AI detection and AI tools. - Yeah, yeah.

But at some point it surely will just get to the point where it is indistinguishable from being real. - Yeah. - Yeah. - I mean, there will be a point, right? - And at that point is when you should all stop going on the internet and interact with the real world. - I wonder at that point, 'cause like once it gets to a critical mass of stuff like that, where it is genuinely impossible to separate in any capacity. I mean, you just can't go, you can't use some of these video services surely. - Yeah. - Yeah. - And you can't trust anything and that's gonna suck.

And you know what? Maybe that'll bring about the rise of local communities again. I'm waiting. And I feel like this is going to happen at some point. There's going to be like a YouTuber who blows up, who's like entirely AI. Like maybe he wears a mask or like some of the shit. There's going to be some YouTuber that- I wouldn't be surprised if that already exists and we just don't know. And then like-

Someone's going to leak it or it's going to come out. It's going to be a massive fucking drama. People are going to feel super baited. They're like, I bought merch. And it's going to be a whole thing right now. It's going to happen at some point. It probably exists right now. We probably just don't know that they're AI. Yeah. I mean, there's something, I mean, I guess our man.

our like generations experience with that was like, remember like back in early YouTube? I don't know if any of you boys- - I know the girl you're talking about. - Lonely girl 15. - Do you remember that entire fucking debacle? - Oh yeah. - Paid for YouTuber. - Yeah, so if you didn't know, this was right at the beginning of YouTube.

And there was this channel called LonelyGirl15. And it was just this girl who was just doing like daily vlogs, you know, just normal YouTube vlogs. Eventually gathered an audience and then it came out

that she was an actress. And this is all scripted. This was all faked and produced by a production company. And everyone freaks the fuck out. And that was like the biggest scandal back in the day. This is gonna blow way fucking past that. - Yeah. 'Cause at least even then it was still,

produced by humans. Even if the persona was fake, that persona was made by a different human. - Yes, yes. - Whereas this is on a completely different level. - Yeah. - The robot overlords are gonna take over and we have as humanity have to make sure that doesn't happen. One AI video at a time. - Well.

But we'll never stop being real. - And we'll never jacket to AI hentai. - And if we do, we want you guys to call us out.

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