- Hello and welcome to another episode of the Trash Taste Podcast. I am your host for today, Gigguk. And with me are my usual co-host, the boys. - Hi. - You know who they are. - Yeah. - And with me again, as I'm hosting, I have another guest. Wow. - Yay. - We have the beautiful Sid Snap and I can say that. - Yeah. - But yes, do you wanna introduce yourself, Sidney? - Hey guys.
- It's Gigguk's wife. - It's Gigguk's almost wife. - That's all you are. - The strongest intro I've ever heard from any guest. - Hey guys. - You didn't even say it's your girl. - I was about to. - Okay, go on, go on, go on, say it, say it.
- Hey guys. - Okay, that's all you need to know. - You can tell she's a girl. - So you go by Sid Snap on YouTube? - No. - Yes. - Okay, oh my God. - So do you wanna explain to anyone who is unfamiliar with your content what you kinda do? - Okay, so I have a YouTube channel. I usually talk about some of the looter things on the anime sphere.
- That's a nice way of putting it. - Come over if you're feeling curious. Talk about eroge, manga.
- Eye penetration. - And other beautiful, beautiful stuff. - Just doing God's work. - I wanna get right into it. - Let's just jump right into it. - I'm just excited to talk about this. Can you explain what the pussy of the round table is?
- Right away, please. Just get it out. - I've heard the name, but I'm yet to know its glory. - This horrific contraption. - No. - I want Cindy to tell me all about it. - It looks like a medieval torture. - So I saw this thing advertised online and it was just like this giant fleshy, it's this fleshy giant roll of a bunch of pussy.
- There's no other way to describe it. It's just like the dough. - And you bought it for a video to clarify. - Yeah, yeah. - It's one of my videos where I'm doing this like sex products in Japan that are animely weird. And it's just like, it's just a bunch of pussies of like girls that they grow older. - It's like six, right? Six of them around. - And you're supposed to like take it with the boys when you wanna have a little party.
- Trust taste special. - Invite the boys over for, let's have a nice little group fuck. - I remember you told me something about it that was like, it's in order of age. - Yeah, one of them's like, you know,
- It's like elementary, middle school, high school, adult. - How far adult do we go? - Grandma. - Is that like a grandma puss at the end? - It's like one of them just sagging down. - It's just like a gaping hole.
- So that's a great first topic. I just wanted to talk about that. - I never thought to myself, I need like an item for the circle jerk. Something's missing from this circle jerk. Oh yeah. - The thing is like, we've always known about Japan. Japan has like some weird ass toys. - Everyone knows. - Everyone knows. But like having moved here and really like, you know,
living with Sydney and seeing some of the shit she has to buy for her channel is just like, I thought- - She doesn't have to. - Gun point. - Buy the pussy of the round table. - I thought my faith in humanity couldn't get lower. The next week it just like lowers every single week. 'Cause I remember this one time we were in this like Dojinshi shop and she was like looking for weird things to buy.
And then we just see this brain, right? And I'm just like, why are they selling a brain? There's no reason why a shop should be selling a brain. - You never need a brain. - And then we pick up the box and we turn it over. And it's just like this brain that you can fucking like stick your dick in. So it's a literal fleshlight that's shaped like a brain. - Well, some people want a brain fuck, you know?
- Some people want a literal brain fog. - It's so heavy. - What worries me about the round table of the object is that normally if I wanted to fuck a brain, I'd probably do that in private. I'm probably gonna keep that to myself. But there's someone out there who has six homies who's like, "Boys, I've got it."
And then they're all equally fucked up and they've all told each other. - I'm just trying to think like, how would you even position yourself? - There's actually a diagram that comes with the box of like, there's an anal hole, like right at the bottom as well. It's like, imagine this like huge,
Play-Doh of like, like with six pussies on this Play-Doh. - It looks like a bar stool, right? - Yeah, yeah, it looks like a bar stool. And then there's a hole at the bottom. So how it goes is that there's a guy at the bottom and you put it on a dick and then like six other dicks can be fucking this pussy hole as it's just on this guy. - How is this episode already more lewd than the shit with your car episode? - Your parents are gonna be watching this. - So I wanna know, how do you go from,
about normal human being functioning in society to reviewing the pussy of the round table on YouTube. What's the origin story of that? How do you get into that? - What happened? - I know that you obviously voice acting online 'cause we're in like the same community, but how did it like go from, how did you get into voice acting and then go into that kind of side of YouTube? - Are you asking how I, so like the beginning of my life? - We can introduce you to our guests. - Yeah, yeah.
I guess, like, so I started out on YouTube when YouTube just began. I was about 12, 13. And I was a big anime nerd. I was that girl, you know, just like, call me Yumiko Kawagawa. In high school. And I was like, what's the best way to be the most closest to an anime girl that you can? And I was just like, maybe being her voice. So I tried doing voice acting. And then
and I start doing fan dogs and a bridge series. - 'Cause you were pretty big in the like bridging scene back in the day, weren't you? - Yeah. - I remember because back when a bridging was like at its prime, you had like team four star and then you had a lot of other people were trying to emulate what team four star were doing. And we got to the point where people started realizing, hey, if we use female voice actresses, we could make our bridge series look legit because most of the bridge series were just like- - All dudes. - Yeah, all dudes. - Just all dudes.
- It would just be like the dudes playing the girl characters doing their like best falsetto or whatever it's called. So if you had a female voice actor that meant your bridge scene was like legit. - Oh, they have a budget. - The problem is that there weren't many female voice actresses in the community. So I remember like how I discovered Sydney was she was like one of the five female voice actresses who was just like in
- Everything. - Right. - So that's how I discovered you. Like, how was it back in the day for you being like voicing in so many different abridged series and so many different parodies. - 'Cause you were like first generation, like online voice acting. - I was, yeah. I started when I was like 14. - Oh my God. - I mean, back then, obviously I was kind of like around when the boom of it kind of began, obviously when people were just like, "Shit, girls want a voice in our fucking terrible face."
I get a lot of offers every day because there's not many girls who have like microphones. - Oh, I guess me and my blue Yeti could voice in your project if we have to. - So it was like, you know, I felt like hot shit. - Like female voice actors were a wanted commodity. You were like. - It was like, whoa. So it was pretty fun. You know, I felt like a celebrity, like what? You don't know who I am?
- You go to like Walmart, you're like, "Oh God, that looks bad." - Oh God, they're staring at me 'cause they probably know who I am. They're just too nervous to come up and ask. - Oh my God.
- I forgot my fame sunglasses. - Oh God, they know I was in that fourth Pokemon bridge. Oh Jesus. - So I got asked like, were there a lot of projects that you were in that you're maybe not so proud of now? Like looking back at- - I think you can say- - Without naming- - That's how you know someone's a good voice actor. If they're like, yeah man, I love everything I've been in.
- That's bullshit. - That means you don't recognize how bad some of the shit was. - Yeah, no, definitely there are, probably I'd say about like a good like 70%. - 70% of the- - Sounds like a voice actor. - Maybe I'd say even close to 90 because very rarely, and this is gonna sound terrible, but like when I was in the parodies, I only laughed, I'd say very like one or two, three. None of them were funny, I'm sorry.
- Every abridger whose voice with Sydney is just like, maybe I'm the 10%. I'm the 10%, I could be the 10%. - I'm funny, right? - Were you ever like cast in a, 'cause you, okay, if you were one of the five female, did you ever get like cast in a project and then you're like, cool, cool, this is good. And then you hear the other voice actors and you're like, how do I get out of this? How do I back the fuck up? - Of course, because like back then it's just like, they'd be like, oh, you're a girl.
girl even though you're using your like laptop mic i've never acted before but it's just like of course um but you know sometimes like i was like i'm unfortunately one of those people that's like once i kind of offer something it's really hard for me to say like
I'm just not gonna do it. It's really hard to say no. So most of the time I just. - I'm like, I'm gonna do the lines, but I'm not gonna do it with enthusiasm. - I feel like that's just the best way to practice from what I've heard. I mean, I'd say with law things, you just gotta do it. Even if you fuck, you're gonna suck for the longest time. And then you eventually learn how to do it. - Just audition, just never stop auditioning. And then you'll get better. - That was definitely how it was back then. It's like, even if it was all shit, it's practice.
- But yeah, so how did you try, like what, so when did you ever stop voice acting or is it something you just kind of lost interest in? - I mean, like, I mean, it kind of plays into how we met, isn't it? Like, cause we met from Hizzebridge series, Ava Bridged, in case you guys couldn't guess. - Oh my God. Here we go. - Oh, it's Mary.
But once we started dating, I actually moved, like, after we started, like, I moved to England and I started going to school in England. And I think from that point, I stopped voice acting for a good few years. But then I came back because I was just like, you know, you said, like, you think I should try and do YouTube. And I'm like, I don't know. Voice acting is not in the same community. And you're like, maybe don't do voice acting. And I'm like, what?
And then I started doing manga videos because I really like manga. Right. And I started noticing like people tended to prefer when I talked about some of the looter titles. Like it started off with like JK Haru is a sex worker. And to like...
- You know, naval sex. - Of course. - That's a bit of a joke. - I think the big transition was when you did your video on Euphoria. - I feel like Garnt has all the answers to these questions. He's like, "No Sydney, that's not how it happened. I was there."
- He was though. - Garnt's like human fact checker, honestly. - He was the one who like, actually, I definitely wouldn't be here if it wasn't for Garnt. He like helped pave the way, kind of told me what these like, hey, this might be a good thing. And I'm like, I don't know. And anytime I needed advice. - Yeah, 'cause I remember when I saw some of your thumbnails, I'm like, that's not the level of clickbait from someone who's been doing this for four months. And I was like, Garnt, did you make the thumbnails? Like, yeah, yeah.
- I knew it was too good. - She had a private coach. - Definitely you were my private coach. But definitely I think I started getting more traction when I started talking about, 'cause I'm not gonna lie, I like to play a good eroge. - Yeah, as anyone does. - Yeah, exactly. - We all know this man lived off them when he was 13. - And then it just played a little euphoria and,
- I'm into arrow games, but I never had the balls to try Euphoria. - I didn't know Euphoria was so good. - Can I tell the story? - Let's put them in your face. - Okay, how did you first find out about Euphoria?
- I heard somebody talk about it, but I didn't really like, they didn't say anything bad about it. They just said, oh, it was like kind of like a death game. And I, you know, I really like horror. I like death games. - I have no idea what this is by the way. I just know there's a lot of poop. - Oh, okay. Okay. We'll get into that. - I mean, you're not wrong. - So one day Sydney's just like messing about on her computer and she just casually asked me, "Hey Garnt, have you heard of this anime hentai called Euphoria?" I'm like, "Yeah, why?" And she's like, "I'm thinking about playing it." I'm like,
- Oh, okay. That's a pretty infamous game. And she keeps asking me why, why is it infamous? What's so infamous about this game? - It sounds like the same energy as your mom coming in like, "God, what is Bang Bros? What is that?"
- Why not have a subscription to PornHub in my mail? - What is X hamster gone? - And so I just go, you know what Sydney, why not just download it and play it and see what happens because- - And you love this woman?
- It's resulted in probably one of my favorite Twitter threads online. 'Cause I told her to document her experience with it. And so she has this Twitter thread of like, of her like fresh experience with Euphoria, which we can probably pull up. - Because I was so certain that you were overreacting if I'm honest. Like I was so certain, like I've seen my fair share of a rogue. I know I've played black or Bible black. Okay.
I'm like, oh, is somebody just gonna like accidentally puke or something? And everyone's just like, this is disgusting. - Oh, the moment I saw that Twitter thread being started, I was like, oh, this is so good. - It was one of the few Twitter threads where you can literally grab the popcorn and just scroll down because there has never been a more well-documented like journey of someone losing their mind.
- 'Cause I think it was never the same after you played "Euphoria" and you released that "Euphoria" video. I think that was like your first really dive into full degeneracy. - Yeah, of course I played like a rogue. Like sometimes like some weird- - Do you wanna explain what "Euphoria" is to someone like Connor and people who don't know? - I have no idea what "Euphoria" is. I just know there's poop and eating it. - Oh, I wish it was just that. - Yeah, I wish we could say that's the worst part. - Can we do a YouTube friendly version so we don't get completely destroyed? - Okay, so burp.
- Which also appears in Euphoria. - I think essentially everything gross that you can even think of on the top of your head in the next three seconds, it's in Euphoria. So Euphoria is a kind of game where... - Sorry, carry on.
24 is a game where this one guy who suddenly starts to realize he's a sadistic motherfucker who enjoys like girls pains is stuck in a room with like seven other girls. And they give him like acts that he has to do. Otherwise they, somebody dies and gets, gets killed. Basically like soul. Yeah. Essentially. But like,
- Eating shit. And so like they have essentially every weird tag. They have like diaper wearing and shitting and you have to eat the shit out of the diaper. They have like- - This is a furry convention? Oh my God. - Taking you thing to another level. - My God. This sounds too much for YouTube, but I think I get the picture of how disgusting this is. - They just have a lot here. - And so that defined your YouTube career?
- Unfortunately. - So you've watched that or you experienced it, you're like, this is it.
- This is my peak. - This is what we're going to follow. - To be fair, like I made a video 'cause I'm like, I thought nobody else knew that Euphoria was this bad. I thought they thought that what I did. I thought everybody else thought it was like a death game. And I'm like, I'm warning you guys. And too little did I know, I'm the fucking dumb fuck over here. - Well, I mean, someone had to experience it. - I've just taken the L for everybody. - One thing I'm sure a lot of people have been curious about is obviously like you're a female who's like very into hentai. - Am I?
- But like, how did you get into hentai originally? Like what opens the gate for you? And what made it appealing to you to like- - Because the general consensus is females don't read hentai. - Yeah, exactly right. - That's just bullshit. - They don't watch it. - That's bullshit. But I guess it's like, it's a hot start from the beginning then. - Yeah. - It's just more of like, in case you guys didn't know, I grew up or I was born and raised in a small village in Wisconsin near Milwaukee.
And wouldn't you think it, they're pretty conservative. So I didn't have a sex education and I got all of my sex education from actually from yeah, hentai. - This is going like the good Christian girl right now. - I had no idea that like jizz was like looked like anything. I didn't know when stuff came out. I was 17 when I learned that jizz existed.
- Oh my God. - Oh my God. - Yeah, I didn't even know what a penis looked like. - That's fucked that they don't teach you that. - Yeah, no, our sex education was more of like, stay absent. Don't do it. - Yeah, I've seen a bunch of those where it's like, you can either teach sex education or tell them to not just not fuck and not do any of that. - Essentially that was, we had a sex ed, but it wasn't sex ed. It was more of like,
But, um, so I actually learned, I didn't know that hentai really existed until I, um, it was actually very similar to Garn Story where I've like found a random link to Bible Black, uh, and I downloaded it. And then I saw just like a girl like growing a dick and I'm like, can girls die? Like,
- You wouldn't know, you weren't sex educated. - I didn't know what he did. - Google search, how do I grow a penis? - Like guys can jizz, can girls grow dicks? Is that just a thing that my parents have just not taught me? - So I think from there, just my interest grew because I was just like, well, this is the only sex education I'm gonna get. - Like your penis. - Yeah, like your penis. - Yeah, like my giant dick. So then I just kind of dived in and actually some of it had good stories and it wasn't just fucking.
And then just life changed from
- So what does like some early hentai that you actually like properly enjoyed? 'Cause as like a teenager, I'm sure most guys, we had one purpose of why we like got into hentai. We didn't really care about the plot that much. - I still don't care about the plot. - Yeah, he still doesn't. But someone from your perspective, I feel would have something different. - Well, definitely when I first started like watching hentai and aroge, you know, it was just to get like, you know, just kind of like, what is this warm feeling in my pants? But then,
But then I started like my first real eroge that I liked was, and it was just like about depression and just like, and this guy's just having sex with these depressed girls. And I'm like, oh my God, I'm having feels while my pants are warm. - This is not gonna be monetized. No way. - We're sorry YouTube. - We have sponsors on this episode.
- I hope neither of our parents want it. - Oh my God. - There's like a million other ways you could phrase it. - You didn't have to say warm feeling in my pants. It's like the worst way you could have put it. - Oh my God. - So yeah, essentially "You Made Me To Kiss You" was the first one. And then obviously "Katama Shoujo", you know, I was like,
- Ones with good stories. - Goods with stories. And then I kind of started going for like the generally like, hey, this isn't just sex. This is a good plot. You know, kind of like one of those porns like you see.
And it's like somehow one of those lines just sticks with you. - Yeah. - I've never seen an actual porn where I'm like, "Damn, this story's good." - I mean, the only like quotable porn that's amazing. - The really like horrible ones. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - You didn't get my cereal? - I think she wants me to suck my dick. - Oh my God. - Wait, I gotta ask Connor, have you ever watched like a hentai and just watched the entire runtime?
- No skipping, no skipping. Just watch an entire episode without skipping or hitting that button. - Sometimes I'll look at the watch and be like, "I got 10 minutes, I can watch the intro." I got time, I can watch the intro. And then I'm normally just disappointed and like, "I wish I just didn't know your personality." The characters normally I like regret that I learned more about them. - That just means you haven't seen the good ones yet. - I think I've seen some good ones.
- I mean, I don't wanna out myself right now. - What is the peak of like- - We gotta save it for the hentai episode. - Oh yeah, true, true, true.
- 'Cause we wanna do that. - We wanna do like a hentai tier. - We judge each other's favorite hentai. So I'm gonna save it. Gotta keep some aces in there. - Well then while Sydney's here, then what is yours? Like what would you say is like the absolute peak of like, yes, this is the best one I've seen. - Fuck. To be fair, I don't watch a lot of like animated hentai because you know, once you've seen one, honestly, you kind of see them all. Like it all looks the same. - They're all based off the doujins though. - Yeah.
- Well, a lot of them are based off "Aerogates." - Yeah. - Yeah. - Yeah, and like, even if they were based off the doujins, it was like, or like hentai manga, it was just like kind of, like it doesn't keep the good shit, you know? It's not as beautiful. - It doesn't keep the plot. - It doesn't keep the plot, and even the sex scenes that they copy that are like hot in the doujins, in anime form. - Yeah, I don't know, like,
especially some doujins, especially if they're animated by Queen Bee. - Oh my God. - We do not talk about Queen Bee here. - I don't know how Queen Bee can take some of the like best doujins, like S-tier doujins and make it seem like worse the animated than the fucking manga itself. - There have been so many where I like I'm into the idea of the story, I'm watching the cut scenes and then I forget I'm still watching Queen Bee. And then the two PNGs start rubbing against each other and I'm like, oh.
- Some Queen Bee stuff I've seen is like, they must've animated this on like PowerPoint. - Yeah, yeah. - There's no animation. - 'Cause the worst thing about Queen Bee is that they're like the posters. They look so good. - It's a hentai studio. - Yeah, Queen Bee is a hentai studio. Quite infamous if you watch enough hentai for just having the worst animation you can imagine for a hentai. - If you've watched a hentai and you thought, wow, this looks awfully shit, it's probably Queen Bee. - It's probably Queen Bee. - We're not gonna get that sponsor from Queen Bee.
- I don't wanna be sponsored by Queen Bee. - That's a badge of disrespect. - I think Queen Bee was one of the first studios that forced me to like research hentai studios, right? 'Cause normally like hentai animation isn't the greatest, but it's like, it's possible. But Queen Bee was so bad that it forced me to have to Google search, why does these certain hentais look this bad? Oh, okay, it's because the same studios are animating it.
- But yeah, going back to you. So what are some hentai's you would like properly recommend? Not anime then. - Are we gonna fucking go down there? Okay. - Yeah, we're gonna go down the route. We've already like, we've already fallen down. - Get close to the microphone. You're really far away. I can see on the audio. - Okay. - This episode is sponsored by ExpressVPN. Going online without ExpressVPN is like not having a case on your phone.
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- Not as a slut, but as like a take one. Okay. - You're being really convincing. - But like, so I would say like, I honestly prefer if I'm going to be reading hentai or like hentai doujins or hentai manga, like, so I guess- - What's your go-to tag?
- Eye penetration? - Yes, definitely. - Navel penetration? - It depends on the day. Sometimes I'm looking for virginity. - Sometimes I'm feeling just a bit pure, you know? - I wanna hear wholesome, like I'm gonna give myself, and then sometimes I'm just like, what's the most- - Skull fucking. Skull fucking, orally skull fucking.
- I want a position of power being abused. - Through the eye socket. - But yeah, do you have any like specific titles that you would recommend to people? - Obviously anything by Pochi, which is a hentai manga artist. And she's also having an anime being released. It was delayed. - Yeah, it was supposed to come out last season. - Yeah.
- She obviously at the anime getting animated for it. - She's the artist who did the art for the MILF Isekai, if I remember correctly. And the elder sister Dojinshi. - That's what's getting animated. - Oh, okay. - But it's not gonna be the hentai version of that. It's gonna be the more- - Is that the tan girl? - No, it's the- - No, you're talking about Nanashi who did a Nagatoro.
- Yeah, yeah, yeah. - She's on Twitter all the time. - Yeah, Nanashi is also a hentai artist. - I see a lot of that form. - But if I'm completely honest, I always like to go to series that are like of characters that are like in the games I'm playing. Like I like playing like Harvest Moon and Rune Factory and sometimes I like to see the characters I have sex with my characters.
- Well, I guess that's just like the appeal of the Dijinshi. - I've never played a video game and thought, man, fuck, I just want to see Zafroff just take a huge deal. - You're lying. - You look that shit up, there's probably thousands of them. - I don't know. - Zafroff getting beat down. - Do you guys remember the very first Dijinshi that you ever read? - I've never read a Dijinshi. - You've never read a Dijinshi? - Never read a Dijinshi. - Never read a Dijinshi. - Okay, Connors told me that he can't get off to drawn porn.
- I had a pretty much more chance like fucking masturbating to like money, like the queen on the fucking, like it's doing the same thing for me. Like, you know what I mean? Like I need some fucking movement going on. - So do you need, is it the movement? Is it the noise? - You're literally masturbating the same way they did in like 1800s when the camera was first invented. They're like, oh God, my.
- My wife that I haven't seen in 40 years 'cause I went to the war. I'm gonna bust one out the trenches. - Did you never like look at like the fucking Playboy magazines and think like, damn, that's hot. - Yeah, I did. But then I realized like moving porn was also an option. And then I, how can you go back?
- It's like the episode of South Park where like they lose internet and then they take turns on like the PC masturbating to porn. - I guess it's 'cause for me, like I remember the very first time I discovered the Jinjis were a thing where, you know, you'd watch these anime and you'd be like, you know, this anime goes like kind of hot, but of course, because it's an officially licensed product, you don't get to see any porn of that. - I've never felt that way about anime.
about anime i've never seen anime been like man i want to see these characters get what the
- Really? - No. - Not even as like a kid, have you never had like a childhood crush on like a girl? - But I've never like wanted to like, 'cause to me it feels like, I don't know, this is weird, but like, I like it when my like porn is separated from the stuff I enjoy. You know what I mean? I want it completely isolated. - I get that. - So I can cut that shit off and nothing in my life changes, right? Like what's that, like no nut challenge where you start levitating after a month?
Like if I wanna cut that shit out, it's not gonna affect like, you know, if I'm looking at me cast up on every week and then I'm gonna be watching attack on Titan, I'm gonna be like, damn,
I've seen it get dicked down. - No, I get that though because like I don't read doujins of series that I like. - Right, 'cause you wanna like separate. - I read doujins of series I actually don't like. - But like the characters are hot and you don't like them? - Yeah, because I don't care because the characters are good looking but I don't care enough about their personality to see them get dicked down. - Yeah, I would never wanna read "Hentai Sentai" from a show that I like enjoy. - I don't know. - I kinda get that. - So like my favorite-
- Am I the weird one here? - No, no, no, no. There's a lot of people who are like, I love this character, therefore I wanna see them get kicked down. - I get it, but I don't follow it. - Okay. - Right, right. - I'm gonna watch my girl get kicked down. - That's why I fucking love like Sword Art Online or emo like Love Live! hentai because I don't care about these characters enough, but they're all good looking characters. So I'm like, all right, that's cool. - When you like watch a porno, I don't wanna be personally invested in their lives. I'm watching a porno. I'll watch it and be done with it. - No, I want like,
- Being personally involved. This is gonna sound so fucking in-cell right now. - That's part of how hot it is. - I'm glad that your relationship is going great. - Being invested in porn just like elevates it to like newer heights. That's why I like porn. That's why I like plot with my porn. - But at the end of the day, I feel like you're putting up more barriers for like entry to have a good just wank at the end of the day. - You know what I mean? - But that wank is weird.
- You can feel the shivers as you just did it. - Oh my God. No, because I get, if I watch a doujin or read a doujin of a character that I really like or a series I really like, the next time I have anything to do with that series, in the back of my mind, I'm just like, yeah,
I'm thinking about it and it completely puts me out of the experience. - Oh, what? That was the end experience. - And how also is that like, why do you wanna put work on yourself by reading and having to imagine the rest? You know what I mean? - Because- - You don't have to imagine the rest, it's drawn out for you. - No, but it's not every single like little frame in your mind is not playing out. - That just means you've read shit doujins.
- Yeah. - I've never read any. - I don't know, that's why I was saying, is all sex the same to you? You know what I mean? Is every session of sex exactly the same? - No, obviously not. - That's exactly the same with porn and stuff like that, right? - Okay, this could get way too deep. Why do you masturbate? - The same reason why anyone
- 90% of the time I just do it 'cause I got nothing better going on. I'll be honest with you. I got like 10 minutes to kill. I don't want to do the tasks that I've set myself. Like I got to make this thumbnail. I don't want to do it. - So you just do it to waste time. - Yeah. - Most people, you know, like read a book or clean their room. - I was like, whatever, I got five minutes. I got five minutes free. Why not have a quick, like a danger walk or whatever. - My hands free right now.
- But I like it's, you know, like most people, the act of doing it is a physically pleasurable. - For me, I just feel like it cleans my mind. I don't know. I feel like it's like a reset. I'm like a save. It's like, you've gone to the poker. - You're talking like a fucking monk now for some reason. - I get it though. - I feel clean, I feel cleansed. - You go into your bedroom, you know, it's midday, you feel dirty that you're gonna like do it. And then you're like,
And then you do it, then you come out like levitating. - It's like hard resetting a console. - I'm ready for a day. Yeah, yeah. - It's like, I could just like reset the game, like in the game or turn off the console and turn it back on again. - You got like 20 Chrome tabs open, the shit's really slow. You're like, fuck it, I'll just restart the PC. Like that's what it's like. - Why don't you just close the tabs? - Sometimes it's so laggy, you know? And you're just like, fuck it, restart it. - I mean, I would have to ask, so like you've never really,
you never cared about it. - No, no. - Yeah, yeah. Well, that's why I guess I would understand because I felt exactly the same. And then I remember the first time I read the "Diginci" about characters, not characters I cared about, but I guess characters I was like invested in maybe like getting together because, okay, I'm guessing neither of you or neither anyone here went through like the fan fiction phase. - No. - Really?
- I have. - Have you? - I went through the Harvest Moon fan fiction. - What, you and the other three people out there? - Because there would be times when I would like be watching an anime and I'd be like, man, I really want this couple to get together. I'd be really, I'm showing a new side of my degeneracy. - The subreddit's never gonna let this go by the way.
- But yeah, I remember the first time was during like harem anime and harem manga where there would be this like, obviously there would be a winning girl and I'd be like, but what would happen if the other girl won? What would happen if the other girl won? - Okay, I have to agree with that.
- Do you not feel like you're wasting time? - Why? - Because I've had that exact thing where it's like, 'cause when I was in teenage years, I was heavily invested in To Lover. And I fucking loved that. But at the time I was reading it, there wasn't a clear winner, but there were lots of potential winners.
- I wanna know the what if of like, if he got with this girl, what would it be like? - Because what got me into the Jinchies is that there are so many anime with like this romantic subplot that goes fucking nowhere, right? And I just want to see the ending of that subplot, the hypothetical ending of that subplot. - I understand the show not being satisfying, but to me it's like, I wouldn't want a story by an author to then just be someone's like, "I got it from here."
You know what I mean? To me, that's weird. That's why I've never been able to get my head around fan fiction. Why would you want someone else to write the story that someone else would only really know? - Because if you can't get the satisfaction from the official product, you just have to search that out somewhere else. It's not like- - I'm just fine with it not having that satisfaction. - I don't wanna be bothered to imagine it myself. Therefore, if I can read something- - For example, if there was say,
I'm gonna bring it up again. But if there was like domestic girlfriends, they're Jinchies. I don't need that shit because they fucking fuck in the actual series. So like, why would I need that fan fiction? - I've never watched an anime and been like, damn, I really need to know what would happen based on a third party's opinion of what could happen if X person got, you know what I mean? That sounds weird to me. I don't know. It doesn't make sense. Does it not? Am I a crazy guy here? - I think,
- I think we're both the crazy ones here. We're both on like two ends of the extreme where I sometimes, it's like an itch that I can't scratch. Where like, if there's a series where I know I'm never gonna see these people get together or this author's never gonna finish it the way that I would like to finish it, that my girl that I want to win is not gonna win, then I'm gonna search out the best way possible of how to itch that scratch. And it's not just so Jinx, she's like, "Yeah, scratch that." Yeah, sorry. - Itch that scratch. - Itch that scratch.
- Scratch that edge. - I kind of relate a little bit. I remember when I watched Code Geass the first time, I was like, why didn't Lelouch ever like fuck C2? - Yeah, exactly. - So therefore you go out and you- - And seek it. - And there are fucking doujinshis that definitely do that. - Oh no, I bet there was. I just didn't care enough. I wanted him to do it 'cause I'm like, homie,
- You're taking over the world. Let a little stress out. Let your hair down. Order some pizza and kick ass. - 'Cause like here's the thing, right? Here's the thing. I can't read a doujinshi for like every series. There are certain series that I think are fucking made for doujinshis. And then I see like one piece doujinshis and I'm like, why would anyone want to get off with this? That doesn't seem very natural. - That's weird. Let me pick up the air among us.
- That doesn't seem very Nakama of these guys. - The Eromanga sensei one makes sense, right? Because there's so much sexual tension around it. - I didn't watch it, I was just saying names. - And I didn't care about Eromanga sensei, but the doujins are fucking lit. - I don't know, I just, I can't get my head around it. Maybe someday I will, but like. - I feel like you just need to see the good ones. - You just need to grow up
- I actually remember this whole podcast is Connor, you just need to try the good thing. - Once you find the perfect tag, that's it, it's game over. - You're done. - This is why I don't get into any more gatchas. I just feel like I'm gonna lose more time and I don't wanna waste any more time. - Well, you're using that time to jack off anyway. So it's like- - I spend 10 minutes max jacking off. - Yeah, well you can spend that 10 minutes reading a dojo. - No, that's too much time.
- Because you've got to go through, find one that you want. And I bet you probably have that thing as well where it's like Netflix where you're like, fuck, which one do I want? - Okay, here's the thing. Most of the time when I discover a good hentai, it's by complete accident. - How are you finding this? - 'Cause like normally I'm just like skip, skip, skip. And I'm like- - Skip on what? - On like the random page. I find like just a Dojin cover.
and I see what happens. - And sometimes I like give it like five minutes if it's like a anime, but if it's like, I'm less likely to give it a chance if it's an anime 'cause with like doujinshis, you can just, you can read way faster. It's like when on YouTube, you hear that 1.5 speed button when you're just like, I wanna see what happens, but I can't be bothered to like hear everything at this exact space. - Do you ever just like, you just can't find a good one? So you're just like, fuck it, I'll just get off to one of them. I'll just fucking do it 'cause like this is taking too long.
- No, because I know how to find the good ones. - All right, fair enough. - Yeah, but sometimes it comes by complete accident where I start reading, I'm like, "Man, this has got some character development on it. "Like maybe I'll give it a- - You go like, "Let's go for a second, there's some character development." - Okay, okay. - Put the pace down, Dom. - If there's like 10 pages
if the 10 first pages go by and there's no fucking, you know the author has given thoughts into the story of this doujin man. You know what I'm talking about, Joe. You know what I'm talking about. Don't pretend like you don't. - I unfortunately do, yes. - That's always the big tell. When it doesn't start off by just fucking straight away, then there's a chance that this could- - I'm like, oh, this guy actually cares. - Yeah, they actually care.
And then, I don't know, being invested in a story, like that's kind of how I got into, you know, Nozakiana and a lot of other titles that have like- - Softcore stuff. - Yeah, like the softcore stuff that have sex in them, but also, you know, have a really good plot that you can get emotionally invested in it. - Have you ever gotten to an anime through the doujins? - Yes. - Have you?
- What? - Have you ever gotten into an anime because you saw a doujin? - Absolutely. - Even though you haven't seen the anime before. - Yeah, absolutely. - Which one? - Okay, I remember I actually read Code Geass doujins before I watched it. - I'm not that degenerate. - I'm trying to think, which one was it? - Sort of.
- No, no. It's hard for me because again, the only doujins I read that are parodies of anime are the ones, are the anime series that I didn't enjoy. So to satiate that like space, I read the doujins for it. But I don't know if there is one that was the opposite. I'm sure there is, but they're probably just like not, they're like not, they're not noteworthy series. - Yeah, I guess the best analogy I can say is that it's kind of like,
- It's kind of like the difference between having sex on like a one night stand and like having sex when you're in like a relationship. - And he was a monk. - No, because there's a difference between being emotionally invested in the partner that you're with. Oh my God. - Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
- Only eye penetration. - Excuse me, we're a good Christian couple. - Sorry, sorry. - My bad, my bad. - But I guess that's like the difference between just having a quick 10 minute Jack off session to, my God, this is like the most degenerate goddamn podcast. - If you're watching this with your parents, I'm sorry. - No one talks about this shit, but we all experienced this and then no one wants to talk about it. I don't give a fuck. Everyone wanks, let's be honest. It's 2020. - Everybody wanks. - Everyone wanks, dude. - Put that on the shirt.
- Make that a song. - Make it a song, everybody wangs. - Everybody wangs. - So I got to ask, what is the most messed up one that you would say that you'd be like? - That's hard. Actually, that's hard because obviously some of them do try to be really fucked up and it's just like kind of comes off as like cringy. Like, oh my God, you're fucking up girls' intestines. Like, come on, like you're just trying too hard. But some of them are just like,
- I didn't know you could do that. - Because there's an entire genre for that, right? - Yeah, like Google. - That's something that even I don't wanna touch, man. - No, I don't like it. - I've been trying to dive into that side of things just because no one else wants to. So I'm just like, how bad could it be? - For good reason. - For good reason. How bad could it be? And I'm like, the little that I've seen, I'm just like,
- I understand now. Yes, this is bad. - No, this is something where if I see some like Ero Guru, I have to like completely separate myself from like that work and just view it as like a piece of artwork. - I am soft as a pillow when I read Ero Guru. Like I'm just like, no, I don't know how, I'm open to a lot of like different sexual things, like, you know, different fetishes that you do you.
- Eroguro though, if you're into that shit, don't come near me. - I don't even think that like incognito mode can save you. - No, no, no, no, no, no. - There was a, okay, so I was also trying to get into Eroguro probably try and make a video on it. So in Japan, when I was at a doujinshi store, they had like these magazines that are actually, I didn't know till later were quite famous for guro, which is called
Irogros? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And do you know them? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I read one, and of course it's in Japanese, so I didn't fully understand everything, but I will say the dead baby stuff is not my favorite. What the fuck?
- What? - Dead baby stuff isn't good. - I don't want to talk about this more. - I don't think we need to go any further than that. - Probably best we end there. - What the fuck? - Probably best to wait for either me or Sydney to make a video if we eventually get there. But no, but I totally get what you mean. Like some like doujins that are just like trying to be way too edgy are just like, come on. We know you're trying. But then there are the actually fucked up stuff like,
for example, right? I reckon like if there was one, I'd still say that's my favorite doujin, even though it completely fucked me up the first time I read it. - It's your favorite? - Yeah, it's my favorite because it's my favorite because like, 'cause I don't know, I like a lot of stories that are quite depressing where like you watch a character go from- - Is it a sad wank or what? - No, no, no, no, 'cause that's the thing. It was like an existential wank. - It's like, why am I here?
- Metamorphosis was the first time where I was like, I was prepared to go in for a wank, but then I had to let go and be like, okay. - Hold on. - Zipper going up. - Zipper going up because I'm soft right now, but for a good reason, right? Because that story is like, I mean, I'm sure Sydney can vouch for this or whoever has read "Metamorphosis" can vouch for this, but it's like,
It's a doujin, but it goes beyond a doujin. - Yeah, it's definitely, yeah. - How do you find it? - I definitely, when I first, 'cause when I first heard of it, I was actually, I think from Aki's video, when she made a video just saying like, "Oh, it's really messed up." And I'm like, "Okay, I think I've been around the block." But no, I definitely wasn't expecting like, 'cause I also am a big fan of depressing things.
- I'm a big fan of depression. I love the work it does. - So when all that started happening, when she graduated and all that. - We won't go into detail. - No spoilers. - I definitely sat, once I finished, I just sat looking at the ceiling on the bed, just like, where am I? What did I do to myself?
- What did I do to deserve being here right now? - What did I do wrong in my life to be here? - What I think about metamorphosis is likely a Yasmeen Poon Poon of hentai. - It is. - You know what I mean? - Straight up is and I think that's why I love it. - 'Cause I love Yasmeen Poon Poon. - What the fuck happened to this?
- Jesus Christ. - No, because I interviewed Shindelwell, the creator of Metamorphosis. And I asked him about, I obviously had to ask him about that, right? And he said it in a really cool way, which was like, I wrote that story not to give this entire shock value of like, I wrote a messed up doujin, but because he was raised in America, he's like, I've seen so many people whose lives end up like this.
And I wanted to show it not to like fetishize it so much, but more so to show off like this can happen to people. And if you find this like hot or attractive, then there's kind of something wrong with you. I'm not showing it as a type of fetish. I'm showing it as like, he's basically, he's like,
- I'm throwing out a message, right? It's about sending a message. - Hentai is art. That's what I'm trying to say. - He gave the hentai, it's like, I wrote that because I wanted to show it off in an artistic way. And for the first time I was like, you know what? That didn't sound pretentious. Wow, you're one of the first people who were like, okay, I totally get it. Because I was the same thing. When I read it, I was like, is this just edgy?
Or am I thinking about this way too artistically? But then when you finish reading, you're like, okay, no, it is actually quite artistic. - Yeah, definitely. - You should read it. - Yeah. - We're just lying. - How long is it?
- It's like- - 100 and something pages? - Yeah. - I was like, I can do it in like 30 minutes. - It's one volume. - Yeah, it's one volume. - Yeah, because the thing is, the thing I've been wondering recently is that hentai has become this like buzzword, right? Where we use it to describe it. We use like it to describe anything that kind of involves like titty or sex nowadays. But like, do you feel like there's a difference between just hentai, like porn and like erotica with like good, like,
things that have good plots, but also just happen to have sex in them. - Yeah, absolutely. - Because I think the whole hentai's art thing that we kind of promote is that it's not so much that we think that this is like Jack off material. We just think that just because it has sex in it doesn't necessarily mean that this is just, you know, porn. - That's you guys, not me. - Well, I mean, you know, like that, like,
- It's like, why does like a lot of like artistic film use sex as like a way to show off? - Oh yeah, that's fine. I'm not gonna like bust out my dick in the cinema when I see a sex scene. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - But I think the whole like hentai's argument stems from like, oh, it's got titties in it, therefore it's degenerative. - The only way that I judge it is if I type in,
and the website has like 10 pop-ups, I'm like, this is porn. - Oh yeah. - Yeah, this is porn. If there's not at least five pop-ups, it's probably not porn. - Yeah. - Right. - Like I'm not gonna like play fucking "Cunt Wars" and be like, oh, this is like, yes. I love the artistic innovation of "Cunt Wars". - I feel like if anything, it's just like the images that get shared around on Twitter most of the time that are just artists just drawing like stills or something or whatever, like just hot.
- I like those, those are nice, those are art. Like I would never like get on the train and get like a chub at seeing like a Twitter art of like a sexual art. - Oh no, no, no. - But it's like, I'm like nice. But I mean, you guys would, right? 'Cause you read your doujins. - I mean just a picture wouldn't be enough. - Yeah. - It takes more than one picture. - I don't crack a fat every time I fucking, like every time I'm like, oh yeah, there's some,
- Ludes, let me just like it. - I'm just like next to the train on Jerry at Russia. I'm like, "Jerry, I can feel it. Stop watching hentai." - You see me on a packed train just liking hentai on my Twitter. - I need the semen bank of a fucking bull if I were to jack off every time I saw a lude on my Twitter timeline, man. Jesus Christ. 'Cause there's so many ludes in your timeline that you'd be jacking off every other fucking second, basically.
- There's gotta be a challenge, right? It's like you see a nude on Twitter, you gotta jack off. - You gotta jack off. - You have to finish every photo. - It's like the opposite of no nut November, right? Only nut November. - Only nut November. - We gotta like do a counter movement. - I like how this conversation completely just delved into just like completely- - We should go back to YouTube stuff and Sydney's origin story. - We'll save for the hentai episode. - We can talk about this forever. - Yeah, that's like a straight hour.
- This is the most civilized discussion we've had on Trash Taste. - I remember when we were discussing one time and then me and Garnt were there and it was you. And then I think you were like, "No, people come for me for my super serious anime takes." I looked at Garnt, I'm like, "What?" - No, you said it 'cause then you're like, "Oh, people come to you because they like your personality." - Yeah.
- Yeah, they were like, and I looked at Garnt, I'm like, "No, back me up, man, back me up." - A year and a half ago. - Yeah, this is when you were like, I think you were still getting the feel for it. - I was getting the hang of it. - But even then I felt that your videos that were recommending stuff, it was still like, people came for your personality, not for the recommendation. - Honestly, yeah. - Recommendations died.
- Yeah, like- - Five years ago. - Nobody actually sees recommendations on YouTube. - No, no, no, no. And I wanna just be entertained for 10 minutes. I don't have to think about my day. - Yeah, I mean, the recommendation comes as like a plus, you know what I mean? - Yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely. - To whatever the personality who is presenting it. - If I'm honest, I mean, I personally, I don't think I'm anything you can't get anywhere personality-wise.
but I just wanna say like- - I wasn't going to, don't worry. - Wow. - Way to assume. - Bold of you to assume. - Bold of you to assume. - I wanna go on a podcast someday and do that. No, no, no, no need to compliment me. Please, hold your applause. - Fuck you guys. - No, but then,
- I don't think anyone who starts YouTube right away in the first like year thinks of themselves as a personality. Like they think like, oh, I'm just doing stuff about anime. It's not about me. - I mean, it's something you definitely grow into. And I can't remember how long it took me. - Oh, forever. - 'Cause it took me forever. Sydney, you've been doing YouTube for like how long now? - Two years almost. - Oh my God, you're a YouTube child.
- With this kind of content, obviously. - With this kind of content. - Yeah, about two years, two and a half years, something like that. - How has your journey been in that two years, like growing and finding what you're good at? - Honestly, I think I've started to accept, it's like kind of like, at first initially I'm like, I don't deserve this. It doesn't feel like I've done anything really. - Imposter syndrome. - Yeah, kind of like,
I had up until recently, I had really bad- - Oh dude, I still get imposter syndrome. - Yeah, I'm like, why are people even like subscribing to me? Like, I'm just like really loud talking about titty. Like I just say titty every like 50 times in one minute. And, but I guess recently, I guess I'm just starting to say like, maybe I'm not such a piece of shit. - Self-confidence.
- I think everyone feels impossible. - Yeah. - Yeah. - I feel like when another big creator that you like, you maybe respect is like, yo, I love your stuff. You're like, - Oh my God. Yeah. - Yeah. - All the fucking time. They're like, oh, I love, like, I like your videos. I'm like, stop trying to suck my dick. No, you don't. - I remember I had a, I don't remember who it was. I had a DM from someone. They were like, I like your videos. And I was gonna reply, but I was thinking about it. I was panicking. I'm like, are they fucking with me?
- Are they joking? Are they poking fun at me? - No, I get that. - It's always from that one YouTuber that you'd never thought you'd be talking to. It's like, why? Why are you on my channel? - You're like, I fucking love your videos, man. You're lying. - Every time I hear a compliment, my first reaction is just, why are you lying to me? - Am I a joke? Am I about to be punked? - No. - By being British, I just assume they're being sarcastic. It's like, where's the punchline? Just tell me the punchline now. Just get it over with. I don't want to hear the rest. Please say psych.
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- I'm kidding. - Just fucking buy it. - The critics say it's good and it's got five star rating on Book Walker. - Really? - Yeah, it had a four and a half at one point. I watched that shit like a hawk. Who gave it a four star? It's five now though, so everything's been fixed. So I got mailing to fix that right up. - Everything is where it should be. - I did, I did, I did, I did. It actually went back up on its own. I'm checking, why am I so vain? All right, what's your favorite manga on Book Walker, boys? Or visual novel as I think that's some of the most popular. - Visual novel? You mean light novel?
- You can't get visual novels, it's just a premise. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - I'm a fake fan. Can we cut that? Can we redo that? What's your favorite not visual novel? Light novel. They also sell light novels as well as manga. I believe that some of the most popular stuff on there. As I don't really know where else you can buy.
- You can't really buy light novels legally in any other website from my understanding at least. - So support the industry. - Yeah, it's been a great place to read light novels in there. That's where I read the...
- Fuck's sake. - My favorite one, which I forgot the name of. I did actually forget the name of it. - I feel like I get a glimpse into what animes are gonna become because normally the most popular light novels I see just are like, a year later I'm like, that's an anime. - Yeah, I go into Book Walker and I see like the most popular light novel that I don't know the name of and I'm like, that's gonna be an anime soon. And it usually happens. - Yeah, it always happens. - Well, like what was it? Not a light novel, a manga, like Glenip-
- Glane-Kia. - Glane-Kia. - Glane-Kia. - I don't know what happened. - Yeah, Glane-Kia. - I remember that was big on Book Walker and then it got turned into anime and I was like, "Oh, I know that. "That's the one with the bunny." - Because I saw it on Book Walker. Thank you, Book Walker. - I saw it on Book Walker. - If I can give a sweet boy recommendation. - Go for it, go for it. - Also, I just wanna say that you said boys, but I'm also a female, so. - Boys and girls? - Everyone is a boy. - Everyone's a boy. - Everyone's a boy. - So Sydney, what's your favorite manga/light novel on Book Walker? - I mean, there's just too much to pick from Garnt.
- Is that okay, Maylene? Is that good? - Is that good? - Can you put the gun down now? - I actually need to go to like the BookWalker website just to refresh myself on like- - If you actually looked at my BookWalker account, it's like all yaoi. - Of course. - Because most of the time I buy it for the videos, but I actually have bought some like unironically, like "Ten Dance", I've bought all of "Ten Dance". There's only five volumes and it's actually like a really fucking good yaoi.
- Unironically, imagine like a Shonen levels of hype, but with ballroom dancing and it's hella spicy. Like it's actually pretty good. - Yeah, I mean, I'm gonna shout out the index series, which I've actually read light novels on there. - I haven't read it, but love the anime. - Yeah, so if you are unsatisfied or confused by season three, please.
- Please read the light novel of Book Walker on Book Walker because that's like one of the best arcs and index before like pre New Testament, but I'm not gonna get into that. But yeah, please read the light novel. - New Testament? - Yeah. - I could give a good recommendation if you're feeling depressed maybe and wanna feel more depressed. - Okay, I thought I was going somewhere else there.
- The Fuku no Hana is not a bad shout. - That's a really good manga. - Exactly. - What is it about? - That's a really good, "Flowers of Evil" is a really good manga. - They have an anime of it, but it's just, it's not really an anime. - What happens? - So this guy, he kind of just about how everybody kind of sucks in reality. There, that's the description.
- That's basically it. - Is that it? - It's literally just about a dude who just gets himself into a really shitty situation that he can't get out of and then he just realizes, man, humans fucking suck. - Essentially, it's like he tries to not be normal when he's handling the situation. He doesn't wanna be as seen as somebody that can be described or like a scene of like when they're describing him like something that can be seen as cliche but he's actually the most cliche fucker out there.
- So humans may suck, but thank God Book Walker's collection of amazing manga and light novels doesn't. - You don't have to deal with humans because you can just go on Book Walker and forget about everything. - Exactly. - They also have Attack on Titan on there, which if you wanna keep up with. - What's that? - I don't know, it's just a little small new thing. - I've never heard of the series.
- Black Butler as well, if you're wondering. - I think I've heard of that one actually. - Yeah, I made one or two videos on it at one point. - If you wanna ever know what it's like to be a prostitute in another world, JK Haru is a sex worker fucker.
- Do you wanna explain that one? - Yeah, I was gonna say, I feel like you said a lot of words that I feel like need explaining. - I mean, it's kind of in the description of the title. It's literally JK Haru is a sex worker in another world. - How does that- - Gets isekai'd. - So is it like into species reviews, but like the other way around? - Yeah, like she's the prostitute. - Oh. - Yeah.
- Yeah. - I've legitimately heard good things about that from like several people. - It's actually very well written. It's very saucy, makes me blush when I have to read the description. - Wait, so is it with like aliens or something? - It's with other people. - So like what's like the real hook for that series would you say? - It's essentially just kind of like, there's a lot of like little mini twists in there. I'm not gonna give the spoilers 'cause go read it yourselves. But essentially like if you wanna know what it's like being a sex worker in another world,
- I feel like I can't relate to either of those. - Yeah. - Maybe try reading it if you can. - Maybe I can relate to being a sex worker. - I've never thought to myself, I wanna go to another world, nor have I thought to myself, I wanna be a prostitute. - Well, have you really even lived?
- One light novel series I wanna recommend because it just finished as of recently, the anime just finished and the light novel just finished is "Origaeru". - Are you gonna recommend to read instead of watch? - Yeah. - As always, Joey. - No, actually I would recommend the anime as well, but if you wanna get like a full glimpse into like the characters and everything, because that's the selling point. - And then that's a light novel? - Yeah, that's a light novel. So it was originally a light novel series. It just finished as of recently, I think it has 14 volumes. - It's a chunky boy. - It's a chunky boy. It's a chunky boy.
but I haven't read it all yet, but I kind of read up to like volume six or seven around when like season two of the anime finished. And it is really fucking good. Like that, it almost exceeds light novel quality. It's almost like just a regular standard book because the characters are just so well-written and it's a lot like "Akunohana" where it's about, you know, just how shitty humans can be. And you know, some dude just trying to- - That's me.
- It's a really just relatable story of how one guy is just trying to fit into society, but he just does not like how society runs. He just doesn't like how the whole social hierarchy of high school is constructed and everything. And he's like, "No, fuck that shit. "I'm not gonna conform. "I'm not gonna conform to the machine. "I'm gonna be my own thing." But then he realized the difficulties of being his own thing and how difficult it is to, I guess,
"Trust humans" is probably the best way to say it. It's a really good read, I would recommend it. - "Trust humans." - Why does it sound so alien? It's like, "We do not trust the humans." - No, honestly, the protagonist, like Hachiman, is probably one of the most interesting protagonists I've ever seen in an anime or anime or a light novel. - I mean, he's one of the most iconic characters in light novels. - Yeah, absolutely. - Oh, shit, really? - Yeah. - Okay. - He's just so completely different. He's almost like a deconstruction of a protagonist.
- Okay. - Yeah, so it's really interesting. If you want something a little different, I would recommend "Nauticaid." - Thank God I can read it on BookWalker. - Does it hit different? You said different, man. - I've read a lot of light novels, man. - I've ruined the word different for myself. Every time I hear the word different now. - I've read a lot of light novels, but this one just strikes comparatively. It does hit different, yeah, so I recommend it. And thank God you can read it on Book, can you read all of them on BookWalker? - Yeah.
- There's a lot of them. Go read on Book Walker. - I really need to just check. - They also have the yaoi called Public Sex, which is exactly what you think it is. - It speaks for itself, doesn't it? - Let's read you Public Sex yaoi. - Honey, you haven't recommended it yet. - I'm trying to. - Okay, 12, so almost all of them. You can read almost all of what I've already done on Book Walker. So go check it out. - Do I really want to recommend Domestic Girlfriend again? - No, you don't have to, it's okay.
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- Knowing you personally, I feel that a lot of your lack of confidence stemmed from a certain event you had with another internet personality, namely Leafy. Like I've already explained the bear, like the overall story from my perspective, but what was it like for you? Like being in one of his videos and being called out by him? - Well, obviously that plays a large part as well. And like my lack of confidence also, I just don't think I'm a very confident person, but with the fact
- With the leafy thing. - How did it all start? Like what was the, like how did you, when did you make that video and then tell? - I made that video actually, 'cause you know how obviously I used to be that predictable kind of weedy cringe girl, but up until I think the first time I went to Japan. And then I came back from Japan and I looked at myself, I'm like, what the fuck was wrong with me? And that's when I made that video kind of as like, oh my God, like people like this,
- Like poking fun. - Yeah, poking fun. It was kind of like a satire. - It was too good though. - It was way too real. - You understood your core audience way too well. - When I first saw that, I thought it was legit. - Yeah. - Yeah.
- Like this one creepy guy kept re-uploading it and like he kept uploading to 4chan obviously. And then I deleted it when I was like 17 because I was like, I don't want this kind of- - So how long was it up before you deleted it? - About a day. - A day? - A day? - Like a few days maybe, but not, it was not up long. - Wait, so what, it just like blew up straight away? - No, and then a few years later, like I haven't been doing YouTube in a bit. I was just like still like in England. And then I get this notification from this girl that I knew like,
who kind of like goes on 4chan stuff like that. And she said, hey, this video is this video of you. And it was me, obviously it's a video. And it had about 60,000 views. And I'm just like...
Initially, I was pretty embarrassed. I didn't feel good. To me, 60,000 views at that time was the most I've been in the world. And then I kind of felt pretty shitty about that. But then, not even a week later, I wake up in the middle of the night to my phone just constantly vibrating with all of these messages from people I went to high school with, people I've met maybe once or twice, all on Facebook, all on Sky, Twitter, just everyone.
of like, hey, you're in a Leafy video and you're pretty cringe. - This is like at the peak of Leafy. - This is actually his most viewed video ever. - Is it actually? - Yeah. - How many views does it have? - Last time I checked, like 20 million, something like that. It was a lot. And it sucked because I woke up to,
hundreds of emails of people telling me to kill myself. And this lasted for months. - Yeah, because I remember every time like every, 'cause how the ball kept rolling was that every time like the comments would start to die down, there would be another cringe compilation. And it was the cringe compilations that kept this going on for so long.
because it appeared in the Leafy video, which was just like, which just lit the fucking fire. And then you got all the Leafy fans. And then as soon as that, like we basically held up in like a bunker and just like kept away from the internet. And as soon as you like came out another cringe compilation would come out. - And then I'd be getting high. Still even to this day, people I know message me like,
with the video. Like, hey, I just saw you in a cringe compilation and kind of like slightly make fun of me. And obviously it doesn't feel initially for years. Like, of course, like I, like it was awful. Like I didn't touch my phone. I'd cry a lot. I went through a pretty bad period. Not gonna lie. Like I was pretty, it was awful and no amount of words or like any kind of emotion I could show you now could show you how terrible it kind of was. Oh, I mean, just imagining it is just fucking horrible. Yeah, no,
- Because I can't imagine it gets to the point where people I knew from like my hometown, people who like didn't know about like anime and stuff. Like, I think that was the point when I remember it really hit you that man, this has gone really far when you're high school friends. - People would recognize me in person. - That's 20 million views on one video, but on all those compilations, it could easily be up to like a hundred million views. - Exactly.
It's a lot of fucking people. Obviously talking about it now, like it doesn't feel great, but I think I've, of course it's been so long. I've accepted it. You know, when people say like, oh, you're really like, you're saying salts. I'll be like, dude, like who the fuck
who the fuck are you? Like I don't give a shit. - I mean, I think the fact that you've managed to like live through that and still being like, I still want to like stay on the internet. I think it's pretty fucking cool. - I know I would immediately leave the internet. - Yeah, that was very, I definitely almost didn't even try with YouTube because like, but Gart really like,
I mean, I don't blame you. Like I think anybody would be like, no, never going on. - It took a lot of convincing to try and get Sydney back on the internet. And it was something where I knew that Sydney had a personality that could like succeed on YouTube. It was just trying to convince her that, hey, just ignore all these comments that you've been hearing over the past. - Fuck the haters. - Fuck the haters. Fuck the hate comments.
And just like, just be you. 'Cause like one thing I can appreciate about Sydney is that she doesn't know how to be anyone but herself. Like what you see is like what you get. So like that can also backfire sometimes where, you know, people don't know.
where like people think, you know, where like the cringe compilation and stuff like that. But you know, you're where you are now and I think you're doing pretty fucking well. - If there's one thing I can say, you're a personality, Sydney. - You are definitely a personality. Congrats on being a personality. - You made it.
- I felt so bad 'cause I remember, I don't know if you remember this, but I didn't know it was you, but I knew you 'cause of voice acting, right? Do you remember this, Jeff? - Yeah. - Dude, I felt so bad about this, but now I don't give a shit. I know you, so I don't care. So I knew Sydney from voice acting, and so when I met Sydney, when I first saw her in person, I was like, "Oh shit, it's her."
- And that was like the reaction that Sydney like was so scared of because there'd be so many times when we'd be walking around and she'd just see like a person like turn around and she's like, and Sydney would be like, he knows, he knows. We need to leave, we need to leave right now. - Not the greatest, I'm like, oh, I'm a celebrity but more of like, oh shit. - I need the other pair of sunglasses.
- I first met Sydney and then I realized that it was her and I asked her, I was like, "Sydney, are you the cringe girl?" I think I said that and you were like- - You said that? - Yeah, I remember just looking down and I'm like, "I'm never gonna talk to this guy again."
- She was like, I have no idea what compelled me to ask you. I think it was like, as I was talking to you, it just came in my head and I was like, say it Connor, say it, fucking say it. I don't know why I would never do that normally. I would normally go home and fucking analyze, enhance, you know? But yeah, I asked you and then I remember when you told the story the first time about how hard it was, I was like, oh shit. That's awkward, I should not have. - If you make jokes about it, I'd be like, I don't know him well enough to tell him to stop. Like, I don't mind now, obviously, but back then I was just like,
- It's weird for me because I found out about the whole Leafy thing after I met you. - Yeah, yeah. - So like when I first met you, all I knew you was Garnt's partner. - Yeah, yeah. - So it was really like weird hearing that story like afterwards, 'cause I don't know if you told me or someone else told me, I think maybe you told me about it. - I think it was when we first met. - It was probably when we first met. - Hi, I'm the cringe guy. - I think I got you drunk enough where you were like, "By the way, I was in a Leafy video." - It's like something came up
and like, you were like, oh, do you do stuff online? I'm like, no, but maybe you see me at that time. - Yeah, and I don't know, maybe it's because I wasn't on YouTube as much at the time. Like I was on YouTube, but I wasn't going around watching other YouTubers at the time. - I'm like cripplingly addicted to YouTube. - Yeah, and also like at that point as well, I hadn't been on 4chan in years, right? So I didn't know what the fuck was happening over there as well. So then when I saw that video after you told me about it, I was like, oh, okay, this is the video people are talking about. But I think, yeah, but it was really weird. Like, I don't know if I'm,
maybe the first one. - I think you actually were, like you're the first and only person who just like didn't know. - I'll take that. - If it's any consolation, I don't think it was that bad. - Thank you. - That was way worse. - I don't think it was that bad either. - I thought it was pretty obvious to me, but I guess it was. - I think it's just 'cause it's anime and people like anime is cringe. So that's why. - Especially back then as well. - Back then we were like, weaboos were the face of like cringe culture. - I mean when you saw the stuff that, when you see videos of like,
Sometimes, I don't know why I love doing this. I just like search like 2008 conventions or 2010 conventions and just watch vlogs from people with like a hundred views. You get some of the like best shit from doing that. 'Cause there's like so much in drama between these friends. Like Cody left on day two.
because he refused to share the bed with me. And it's like, it'll be like a hundred, hundred of you vlog. It'll be the fucking like- - Shane shat in the bed and I couldn't fucking believe it. - It'll be one, like, I remember this one time and I, 'cause when I went, I guessed at a convention like Indy, some Indiana convention, not Indy Popcorn, another one. And this convention had been going on for a while. So I was going back every single year and finding vlogs of it.
And then there was this one guy from like 2010 and he opens up the vlog with, "Yeah, so Cody's not here. You guys know why." And doesn't explain why. And for some reason I found that so funny. - I killed him. I straight up murdered him. - Because like mid 2000s conventions, I remember it just seemed like you're walking into another world. Like the rules of, like I remember when just the rules of normal society did not apply to anime conventions, you know? - That's why it's so fun.
- I usually hate watching like cringe compilation videos 'cause I just, I personally can't stand it. I don't find them funny. But the one types of cringe compilations I fucking love is like the mid 2000s like marriage proposals at- - Oh no!
- The fucking best. It's like watching like, it's just, it's always outside of the convention center and there's a crowd of people. - All the same cosplayers, always. - It's usually like Naruhina or somebody like, it's always Naruhina. I don't know what it is. - I think one of my favorite videos on YouTube of all time is this video called 2001: An Anime
- Oh my God, you showed it. - I remember showing it to them at Christmas and it's just basically a highlight reel of this very old anime documentary that follows like these- - So good. - Follows these people at certain anime conventions. And like, this was before the mid 2000s. This is like the late 90s. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - And oh my God, some of the stuff that was going on there was just- - What was the name of the dude? - Johnny Otaku. - Johnny Otaku. - Johnny Otaku. - Oh, that's- - My man. - The legend. - Where he was like, "Yeah, I'm gonna be a Funimation version of that."
- Was he ever though? - I think he was banned very quickly. - I actually searched up his story after I saw that video. - So do you wanna explain Johnny Otaku to people who might not know? - Johnny Otaku is one of the most like,
- Like one of the creepiest kind of self-confident anime fans you could like ever see. - He's one of the most infamous anime fans. - The most infamous. - The kind of guy who brings you to a convention is like, "Oh, I know everyone here." - Yeah. - He's like not even a guest, but he's like, "I know the staff."
So I remember in the documentary, he was like running his own radio show. That was like an anime radio show. And he was trying to be a voice actor that he said, he was saying he was, no, no, he was an aspiring voice actor, which, you know, going off tangent, if he...
I don't know why people use the word aspiring. - It sends shivers down my spine. - Like when I go on a Twitter profile and I see the word aspiring and I'm like, come on dude, you can do better. - Aspiring voice actor just means I own a Yeti snowball. - Just say you're a voice actor or just don't put it in, just like one or the other, you know? But yeah, he was an aspiring voice actor and
I searched up his story after I saw the video and I saw like this Funimation panel where they were talking about this person called like John or Johnny or something that tried so hard to get an audition that they literally had to ban him
from the Funimation offices. 'Cause he was like stalking employees and all this shit. And then I kind of just connected the dots. I was like, wait a minute, there's this guy called Johnny in this one video who like really aspires to be like Vic Mignogna. And then there's this another story by Funimation employees who's talking about this guy called Johnny stalking Funimation employees at their offices. And I'm like,
- Ooh, that's yikes. - Can I just say, can we get Johnny Otaku? - Oh my God, Johnny Otaku. - That would be fucking lit. Johnny, if you're watching this, please come to Japan. I know you love this country. Just come here, we'll put you on the podcast. I wanna hear the story. - I implore the viewers at home, just type in any anime convention and type in like either 2010 to '15 vlogs. They're so funny. - Watch 2001 and anime.
- It's a 30 minute video, but my God, it's- - It's so good. - You'll have the time of your life. - Oh my God. - But like going back to you, Sydney, going back to your, the Japan trip, I would say that completely ruined your perception of like anime and weebs in general. So do you wanna explain like why that happened or what happened? - Were you the stereotypical weeb before?
- Everything in Japan was better. - Describe yourself, describe what you were like before and describe what happened and describe what you were like after. - I guess like of course, 'cause I, okay, the beginning was like I had a Japanese foreign exchange student 'cause I was like, "Oh, Japanese people." And it's like kind of like- - Joey dies inside. - My nuts just went in his throat.
But I definitely up until I think I met her I calmed down a lot. I'm like she's pretty normal She let me stay at her house in Japan after she went back home after a year I was 17 So I went to her house and then I kind of just went everywhere in Tokyo That was like anything and the whole time like I loved the trip It was don't get me wrong, but it did do I think that it was an
anime, you know, heaven here. Like, do I think like- - So what was your image of Japan before coming here for the first time? - I thought I'd come here and I'd be like an instant, like everyone would be like, "Oh, you're so slow to be on internet, you wanna be an idol in Japan."
- Reminder, she says she had no self-confidence. - You remember that? - Once I like grew up and realized like, man, shit. - Life really hits you like a truck. - And then like once I grew up, I'm like, shit, how come I left Japan and I wasn't like prime minister? - That's like every white guy when he goes to a new country. 'Cause like-
I was just like, what if I'm not Sugoi Desu? And then I started reflecting, yeah, definitely just on everything. And I'm like, - This is a normal country. - And then just life goes on. - 'Cause like you, I remember you were telling me stories about how you were like cosplayed in Akihabara and stuff like that. - Because like when I went to Japan, it was 2012 and about, I think a year prior or a year and a half prior, Anohana finished.
and we went to and I really love Anahana like but so I went to the village for Chichibu which is where it was based off of and since I was like the blonde blue eyed girl they're like oh Menma so they made me like dress up as Menma for a
pictures who made you dress up we went to the place that was like because they were having a festival for anohana right and then there was like a street completely dedicated towards like looking like the anime like they had a secret base and everything and um so we went to the store i think where they were like beginning to run everything and then people were just like they're like oh shit like we need somebody to like cosplay to gain more people to like want to come over and then uh so they just like they
- Quick, find a white girl. - And then, 'cause I think she's meant to be white in the anime, if I remember, like they were, well, menma. - I don't get into that. - I think she's supposed to be Japanese, but you know, anime being anime, it's like, let's just make them not Japanese. - So then they made me wear menma costume, like the white dress. And just, I don't think I've ever felt so wanted.
- Japanese people were just like, I just remember like the flashing, like I couldn't see, they're just like telling me to pose. And I was just like, shit, I'm just like, wearing a mat in my dress and I've never felt so loved. - I don't know if that means you got too much love or you didn't get any. - That was my experience. - Didn't you get accused of being racist? - Oh, why not? - Why not? - Yeah, let's just jump right into it.
When I was studying in England, I quickly had to pick a thing I wanted to major in. And I just picked Japanese, all right? I'll say it. I majored in Japanese. Of course, that weave. Of course. That weave. And so I went to a university in London. And...
God, I really hope he doesn't watch this. So, okay. So I had a Japanese professor and we obviously write essays as you do in university. And he lit us up.
- So I let us pick the genre, like what we want to write about exactly. And I picked about like kind of Japan's fascination with Westerners and like kind of their looks, they kind of like, you know, meaty stuff like that. And so I felt really good about it. Like I thought it was the best I ever wrote. Garnt read it, he's like, "Shit." - I actually thought it was a good, it was a good essay. - And then I, when I was like so excited, I'm like, this is the best. And like, I was, I'd never been so hyped for a grade.
- That's how you know you did good shit. And you're like, I can't wait to get that fucking A. - But then I get it like my, the grades back two weeks later and it's a zero out of a hundred. And I'm just like, what the fuck? Right? And so I messaged him like, why did I get a zero for this? He's like, because it was like, he never explicitly said racist, but he's like, you were very insensitive to Japanese people. And it's just like, just a lot of stuff. And I remember just like, oh my God.
- So was your professor like full Japanese? - Yeah, he was full. He literally came, like he was older Japanese man who came to like teach Japanese like culture in the university.
- Maybe you just gave him a pill he couldn't swallow. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - It might have been that. - Shit, she called me out. This white girl called us out like that. Zero. - Yeah, I mean, when you told me that, I'm like, but like every single sign near our house is like white people. - No, it's always white people. - It's like the gym, I don't see a single Asian person. - Yeah, right? - There's always ripped white dudes. - Yeah, the longer I live here, the more I'm like, man, I shouldn't have got a fucking zero on.
- I remember you go back by grade and you're like, I had to convince you for the week that you just weren't racist. - What? - Maybe I'm racist. Maybe I am like. - You were like fucking Martin Luther. He's just like, I'm just dropping these truth bombs. I just can't handle it. - I was like convinced I was racist. I was convinced.
I mean, we're kind of like- - Is that how it works? - If someone says that, I'm just like, "Shit, what if I have internal racism?" And I never even knew. - Internal racism. - What the fuck? - But yeah, I almost failed the university because of that. - Wow, what an asshole. - He made me rewrite it and he actually gave me good points for it. I had to read memoirs- - But didn't you drop out anyway? - I did. - Joke's on you. - But I wanted that credit, so yeah.
- You could argue that the professor was being racist to you. - Shit. - Wow, that's a Vsauce opening. - Reverse Uno card. - Excuse me, sir, I believe you are the racist one. - Common and me. - That's just 2020.
- Oh my God. - So I gotta ask, what was the anime community like when you were in your full weeb phase? - Full of racists. - You fully embraced it, right? - Of course. - How was anime conventions and everything for you? - Yeah, I never went to anime convention until 2017. - Yeah, my first anime convention was like 2012 or something like that. - That's still early. - Yeah. - I hadn't even started YouTube at that point. - Yeah. - Wait, so what was the,
- What year was the first anime convention you went to?
- Nine. - Nine? - Yeah, it was Anime Milwaukee, Anime Milwaukee, hit me up, bro. No, it's Anime Milwaukee and I remember, 'cause obviously I was a full weeb and everyone's like, "Glomp," I'm like, "Oh my God, that's so original." - Oh my God. - I got shivers down my spine hearing that one. - I just lost the game and I'm like, "That's the most clever fucking shit I've ever heard." - Wait, what is glomping? - Glomping is when you, do you wanna explain it?
- Is that the thing where you jump on something? - It's like you come up to a random person and you literally just hug them from behind. - And sometimes it's like the most aggressive hug you can get. It's like a rugby tackle. That's what it's like. - It's actually always. - Why is like so many things in anime conventions just sound rapey? - I didn't know you could be assaulted by a hug until I experienced the glomp. I'm just like, oh, that felt dirty. What the hell was that? - It was less than you showered.
- Do you, what do you think of free hugs? Like I can't fucking stand the free hugs though. - No, I can't stand it. - I'm like, why would I want to hug a sweaty stranger? That is the last thing I ever want to do. - I actually like, before the whole Rona thing happened, like I remember going to Shibuya and almost every time there's like a Japanese- - They have free hugs. - With a free hug sign, I'm like,
- Who does this? It's 2019, who does this? - If it's like a viewer who's like, I want a hug, I'm like, I got you. But if it's like just someone standing there who's been hugged by like a hundred different people that day, I'm like, I don't want your hugs. Your herpy ridden hugs, get away from me. - Get it off of me. But like, I got, 'cause it's like, you don't know what they want from you. Like, do you want to feel my like tender breasts on your sweaty, showerless body?
- Yeah, exactly. It just looks really rapey to me. - I'm in like the one meter radius and I can smell the like, like ax. - I can smell the virginity from here. - I can feel it in my pores, yeah. - I don't know, I just, even when I was younger, I just thought this shit was stupid. Like, I don't know if like, maybe it's because I'm a British. I don't know.
- I think everybody who's normal thought it stupid. - Yeah, I mean, I just like my personal space and I remember like, going to anime conventions back in the day just seemed like everyone looked for an excuse just to violate your personal space as much as possible. And man, do you remember like yaoi paddles and that entire fucking space? - I wasn't around when that was. - You're welcome, you're lucky.
- I've watched a number of videos on the Yaoi Paddle. - Oh yeah, RedBard's videos. - Yeah, RedBard's videos were really good. But I watched that, I was like, I'm so glad I wasn't at conventions during that time. - Yeah, it just seemed like so- - What I heard about, like, wait, so people just hit you with a wooden stick?
and no one had a problem with this. - That's just a physical assault with extra steps. - Physical assault with attitude. - It's like if I just put the word like hentai on a belt and we're like, it's the hentai belt. Son, it's time. I'm getting the hentai belt out. - Father, please. - I saw the...
- What I'd heard about the Yowie paddle, right? I heard stories about it. It's like, this is gonna look amazing. This thing, everyone's hitting it. It must be amazing if everyone's just letting it fly. And I see it and it's just like burned in Yowie, like sans serif font into a paddle. And I'm like, this is what everyone let each other hit with? - There was like, I've seen pictures of like old conventions where they were selling it at like- - Yeah, they sold them. - Yeah, and I'm like, what is this?
- It's like, is this fucking hunger games? Like it's just like, where are all the available weapons? It's like, go to war everybody. - It just proves that they will literally buy anything at an anime convention if you just put the words yaoi on it. Like, it's a fucking wooden panel. There is nothing, there is literally nothing special about this. Why are people buying this? - Material costs is like 10 cents, I think. You're selling it for like five bucks. - It's so much shit in anime convention. I'm like, who's buying this? Like, you know,
- I feel like it's just evolved. - I think I'm British as well. - Now if you wanna sell something at an anime convention, just put a fucking Ahegao face on it. That shit will sell like hotcakes. - I remember I would see people go around with these steins, like the metal steins.
why is everyone holding a Stein? - What the fuck is a Stein? - Like a really big, like German mug. And it was like metal. And there was just someone in like the vendors, was just selling like weird kind of concoctions. And I was like,
why are you carrying around a metal ass jug all day that you can refill when you can just drink some fucking water out of it? - You ever had a water bottle? - I don't wanna hold a fucking glass all day. Yeah, this thing was huge. And I'm just like, what is wrong with anime fans?
- Don't buy anything that's put in front of them. It's a deal though. - Maybe if you looked closely at the Stein. - It's the Yowie Stein. - I just think my parents just fucking, they just told me everything that you don't need is a scam, Connor. Like 7up, you don't need that, you got water, it's a scam. 7up's a scam. - 7up's pretty bomb though, not gonna lie.
- I prefer 7up over Sprite. - I used to love lemonade as a kid and now I just think all lemonade tastes like just mid. - McDonald's Sprite? - McDonald's Sprite's the best. - What's the difference between McDonald's Sprite and regular Sprite? - Oh my God. Have you never had McDonald's American McDonald's Sprite? - Why would I walk into a McDonald's in America? - That is true, that is true. - When I used to work at McDonald's, 'cause it's like a syrup, right? It's like a... So when we had to like connect it, one time I got like the Coke syrup on my hands and I was like,
And it was like the sweetest. I imagine that's what 15 year old me thought doing a line of Coke was like. - Yeah, shit was so sweet and juicy. Oh my God, it was amazing. - Succulent. - It was succulent. It was amazing. That was beautiful. And that was the only good thing that ever happened working with us. - Did you guys ever see the Yowie guy at like some of the first conventions you went to? - The Yowie guy? - Yowie guy? - So, okay, I don't know.
- There was this guy, right? I don't know how he got all around the world, but he'd go around some of the biggest conventions and you'd know it was the Yowie guy. 'Cause there would be this one booth that would be setting like Yowie and the Jinchies. And there would just be this guy that would just keep shouting out, "Yowie, get your Yowie." - Oh my God, yes. - I've met him. - You've met him? - I've met him. He was at a convention in Finland.
- I think I saw you in America like last month. Why are you here? - Yeah, I saw him at like an ASEN convention and then I saw him again at like MCM two months later. I don't know how he just like, he would always shout this out and I remember
- So you're telling me that Mr. Yaoi is also Mr. Worldwide. - Mr. Worldwide Yaoi. - I remember because of how aggressively he would fucking sell yaoi to girls. Like girls would come up and he goes, yo girl, what do you want? What yaoi do you want? This girl is buying yaoi.
- She is buying gay porn everyone. She is buying yaoi. Hi, what yaoi do you want? And then the guys would come up and there would be a different guy selling the Jinchis at the same booth. And it would be like this indiscreet drug dealer being like, yo, yo, yo boy, what do you want? Like no one has to see, I'll fucking bag it up. No one has to see, it'll be coming in a paper bag. - You want the eye penetration stuff? - Yeah, I don't know. Like I think he's gotten banned or something now because I haven't seen him. - That would annoy the fuck out of me.
- Yeah, 'cause like thinking back, I'm like, that probably wasn't cool for like any girl who just wanted to indiscreetly buy some- - Buy something, yeah. - Some yaoi or something like that. - Oh, it is like next level sexual assault. It is like the most like big brain sexual assault where it's like, I'm not actually assaulting you sexually.
- But I kinda am by words. - I love anime conventions, but I just feel like I'm like out of my league, man. I'm like, I get there and I'm like, I love the atmosphere, but sometimes you just see weird shit and you're like, all right, I'm out. I'm a head out. - I don't know what it is when I hear about, you go to AX or something and hear about a group of guys who have met on Discord and like,
and like rent out an Airbnb together. For some reason, 90% of the time that just never ends up well at all. - I did that and it went fucking horrible.
- I hear that I'm just like, that's how murders happen. - The thing I thought was like, right, listen, this hotel is expensive. I don't care who is gonna be in this room. I need to just fill it and get this price down. - That's it for us. - I'm broke as fuck. I need this hotel to cost $100 for this whole thing or I'm out. - You kind of like take the area of like the hotel room and you're like, how many times can I divide this by human body? Okay, that's how many bodies are sleeping in this room right now. - This is why you gotta become the host.
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like anime convention story that you share with people though. Cause like. - I have like a million. - Yeah. Well, I mean like, but that one that just sticks out to you. It's just like you meet somebody or I should specify that one convention story where somebody was the biggest fucking asshole. - Oh yeah. - Yeah.
- Morals just go out the window, I swear. - We should probably tell this one when we're both on this podcast because I remember the one guy that ever stood out to both of us. I've told this story on Sydney's channel before but it was the very first time me and Sydney had met in person and like probably started dating.
So anyone who's been in a long distance relationship will know how difficult that is. Like when you don't get to see your partner very often. So you have to like treasure every moment that you get to, you know, be with your partner. Now this was the very first time we, me and Cindy had met in person and it was 2014 ASEN. And on the last day,
we had to say our goodbyes. - Yeah. - And obviously it was a very, very, very, very- - I don't think I know this one. - It was a very, very tearful goodbye. 'Cause obviously at the time we didn't know when we would next get to see each other, right? So Sydney was in my arms and she was like crying. It wasn't like a subtle cry. It was a proper cry. - Like an ugly cry. - It was like makeup spewed all over your face kind of crying. - Right, right, right.
- I'm like comforting her. And just as we're just like hugging together, I just hear in the corner of my ear, "Giguk?" And I was just like, and I was just like, and I was just like- - It's not even the worst part yet. - I love this story so much. - And I just sigh, just be like,
And there's just this guy standing at me and he had like the surprise face. And I was trying to like signal like,
- Look at Sydney, look at Sydney, look at Sydney. Like just give us a moment because this is my very first convention in America and like probably my very first convention as like a YouTuber. So I wasn't used to getting recognized. If this happened now, I'd be like, dude, can you give us a moment? But back then I did not know how to deal with it. - You didn't know how to say, hold on. - Yeah, I didn't know how to say no basically. So he was like, can I take a picture? And I'm just like,
Inside I was like, is this guy serious? - Yeah, right. - Is this guy fucking serious right now? And I'm just like, okay, sure. - And then so like we separate, right? - Yeah, we separate. - I go to the side and he comes in. - Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. No, no, no, I got this, I got this. So I got this, I got this. So he tries taking some pictures, right? And he does the thing where the first selfie he's not happy with. So he's just like, let me try again, okay.
- You get three and then I'm like fuck off. - And he tries a third time and he's still not happy. And then he looks over to Sydney, makeup all over her face, tears down her fucking face or like all over her cheeks. And I'm just like, don't do it. Don't fucking do it. Don't fucking do it. Can you take a picture for us please? - I was still crying and I'm like, sure. 'Cause I didn't know what,
- He has the goal to ask Sydney to take a picture for us. I'm like, I was just, I went from like really, really sad that I'm not going to see Sydney for a while to just like confused angry to be like, is this guy for real? Is this easy? Is he for real? Is he for real? Like how are you feeling in that moment?
but I was like, cause I thought maybe like, is this normal? - Yes. - He's a big star, I should know better. - At least he wasn't like, "Hey Sydney, do you want to be in the photo with us?" - Oh my God. - That would have been a bad time. - Clean yourself up and then get in the photo. - Put some water on, come back.
- Speaking of bathroom, I remember, this isn't much of a story, but that was the worst time someone asked me for a photo. I was queuing up to take a shit at AX.
- I kid you not, right? I'm taking a shit and the guy, so you've got to like line up, 'cause the fucking toilets are tiny in the AX convention. And the guy's having a piss on the cubicle, another cubicle, the urinal, and I'm just on my phone. He turns around and he's like, "C-Dog." I'm like, "Yo, what's up?" Thinking that like, that's it, 'cause we're in a fucking toilet. He's like, "Can I take a photo?" I'm like, "You didn't even wash your hands. "Don't come near me." Like still zipping up his pants. And I'm like, "No, we can't take a picture right now. "I'm a doctor."
I'm about to take a shit in the toilet with other people pissing at the same time it's filled. And I feel like I'm the asshole. - Yeah. - 'Cause now everyone's looking at us and I'm like, are you kidding me, dude? - I've had a similar thing, but I was actually at the urinal. - No! - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Dick in hand. - Yeah, dick in hand. - I've been there. - And the dude directly next to me was like, yo Joey, what's up?
- And I'm like, can you not see my penis in my hand right now? - My stream would instant stop at that moment. - I think mine actually got faster 'cause I'm like, I'm pretty sure this guy's about to ask a photo. I'm not about to get a photo taken as I have a dick in my hand.
- I didn't know how to react to that. 'Cause I remember the exact same thing happened to me when I was in the urinal. And it's the case where there are like five urinals in a row. And I was in like the one at the end. And I knew something was wrong when a guy chooses the one right next to me. And I'm just like, here we go. Here we fucking go. - I saw geeky convenience, guys.
And I'm like, why are you, like my first instinct is like, why are you standing into the urinal next to me? There are, you know, if you're not a guy, there's an unwritten etiquette to like toilets where if the urinal next to you is like free and there's like more urinals other than the one next to you is free. - Basic instinct. - You don't go to the one next to the person who is already pissing. - You don't wanna be that creep who- - That's basic, basic urinal etiquette. - Yeah, you don't wanna be that creep who's like, I don't wanna look at his penis.
- I wanna look at his penis. - Yeah, so I finished my business and for some reason he asked for a handshake.
- Can you at least let me wash my hands first, man? - I wanna touch the dick hand. - Pretty sure that's how coronavirus started. - So what was your like most like weird or strange convention experience before you were a YouTuber? Like, or before you met Garnt? Is there like any weird stories? - Say for example, like the first convention.
- I would say like actually it was probably, I was doing like say voice acting online. You know, I wasn't like massive at that point. I was a senior in high school and I actually worked at the maid cafe at anime Milwaukee. - Of course you did. - Of course. - Of course.
- Yeah, yeah, yeah. - You didn't even need to tell me. I just assumed. - And then, oh my God, I really hope this guy doesn't watch this. So I was just kind of like, we had 10 minutes off, right? So I was gonna go get some water or something. And this guy is just like, "Wow, are you working at the maid cafe?" And I had like had my maid outfit on. We all had the same uniform. I'm like, I'm like- - So you ain't no shit. - Yeah, and he's like, "Yeah." And he's like, "Okay."
Okay. And I was on the escalator and then he turned away and I'm like, and then I turned away. And then when we were closing up for the night, this guy comes up and he hands me like this dollar that he origamied into a shirt. And I'm like, he's like, do you think this is a really cool like thing? And I'm like, he's like, you can keep that. You can keep that dollar. I'm like, what?
- You're frothing at this point. - Finally me. - Frothing at the loins. It's like, oh shit, he gave me a dollar. - And then, so I was just sitting down waiting for like to get my parents started like waiting for the night to end. And then he just sat down and then he just didn't say anything. And then like 20 minutes goes by and I'm like, I'm gonna go on the back and I stayed there for two hours and he still is there waiting.
And so I actually had the manager go out and yell at him to get out. And I feel bad because he's actually really shocked. Like he thought I was genuine. He could come out and be like, when's our date? I guess that's not like the most creepiest thing. Like that sounds kind of rapey to me. Yeah, that sounds hella rapey. But it was definitely something I look back and I'm like, I kind of feel bad. But another way.
- I swear, like, I don't know what it is about anime conventions that just turns anime fans into just monkeys. - I don't know. I think it's just a lack, like a lot of young people and a lot of old people who lack social skills. - Yeah. - You know, not to be mean, but I think a lot of people who go to, there's a good chunk of people who go to anime conventions who don't really like, you know, who- - Socially awkward. - Yeah. - They don't really socialize too much outside of, you know, maybe playing games online. And I don't know, I feel like,
- I think there's a lot of them who just assume that because you like the same thing as me, I can do anything with you and I'll be okay with it. - Yeah, I'm definitely glad that, I don't know, that when I was younger, I didn't interact with people 'cause I feel like I would've been weird. - I'm kind of glad I didn't go to anime conventions that early.
as well because like seeing how many stuff is coming out about the smash community and stuff. I can only imagine what's happening. - I can easily get based on what I've seen in private. Like people do and I make conventions now I can only imagine how bad it was. - I'm honestly surprised the smash convention was called out before the anime convention scene. - Yeah. - I'm sure there's,
horrible stories that go behind the scenes. - I think the problem is with anime conventions a lot of the time, it's like not like the celebrities, like the organizers sometimes. - Yeah. - Speculating and like- - I mean, there are stories of that as well. - Yeah, and it's kind of hard to,
it sucks, but like cancel someone who no one cares about. You know what I mean? Like when you cancel like a community like Smash, you've got like these big names, right? And when you bring it out, it's like, I cared about that person. It's like, dude, the event organizer of X-Con in your area is a rapist. And it's like, oh, who's that? Like, is the console on there?
- It's bad. - Is the staff okay at least? - It's bad. I mean, I'm not trying to make light of any of that. I mean, it's really fucked up, but I mean, that's kind of how it is, right? It's unfortunate. I don't know. It's a depressing topic, obviously, that people don't like talking about. It's not that funny. - Let's change the subject. Okay, but like, I wanna know, right? Having how you've done YouTube for how long would you say now? - It's the beginning of YouTube.
- Since the beginning, but as a job. - As a full-time YouTuber. - As a full-time YouTuber, how long have you been doing it? - I would say about, yeah, about like,
- A little over a year and a half. - Year and a half, two years? Okay, so like, 'cause I always ask people who like kind of come into the whole full-time YouTube thing like as of recently, right? Because like being a full-time YouTuber now is completely different to like being a full-time YouTuber say like when Garnt began full-time, right? So like as someone who's been there from the beginning of YouTube, how would you say it's like changed as a full-time thing?
as opposed to like just doing it as a hobby. - I think definitely like it's more profitable now, obviously back then in the beginning. I mean, it's not like I'm not saying like you're rolling in it by any means, like I got like none of my videos are monetized. - You can't do it to yourself. - I can't really complain about that. - Tell me the video where you reviewed the pussy of the round table wasn't monetized. - Are you saying this episode? - Sponsored, yes. - If not for Patreon and sponsors, you just wouldn't have a job. - But you're getting out there.
And that's like, that's the more, and then if you get like, if people watch you, then people are gonna be like, "Shit, let's get this bitch to advertise our fucking shit." And then that's, I mean, definitely it's like back in the monetary days when YouTube wasn't so pissy. - It was bound to happen. - Yeah, it was bound, of course. - Everyone knew it was gonna happen. - Really somebody like me shouldn't be monetized on there. - I wonder, 'cause like back then I always think for me, like YouTube was as much of like a social thing for me.
for me as much as like I enjoyed making the videos. It was more about like, what a,
- It was the same with voice acting for me. The major reason I kept doing voice acting and I liked it so much is that it was like how I socialized with those people. And I almost felt like YouTube was an extension of that where half the time, which is why, you know, when we said in the ages ago, I was like, they're only making videos for each other, et cetera, et cetera. 'Cause I remember when I did it, like when you first start, you kind of do make videos in a sense for your peers and for like to impress one another. 'Cause it's a very social thing when you're smaller. 'Cause there's no pressure.
It's like, I just wanna make videos. My mate made a really cool video. I wanna make a cool video to like- - You're just dicking around with your friends. - Right, right, right, right. And half the funny, like what I thought was funny at the time, probably not funny at all, stuff I made was 'cause I'm like, dude, my friends are gonna fucking love this. They're gonna laugh their ass off, right? That's why I made it half the time. And I feel like that aspect pretty much goes instantly.
when you start doing it full time. You still do make friends, obviously, we're all YouTubers and friends, but the aspect of making videos for like a social purpose completely goes, I find. - Yeah, definitely. - I mean, I'd still say I do kind of make videos for social purposes 'cause it's still like- - I guess technically 'cause you're talking about current topics a lot. - Yeah, I mean, and there's also like,
when we talk about YouTube, I see YouTube now as like, I just make YouTube for like a general audience, not just like an anime watching audience. So like there are a lot of other YouTubers out there who have to do things that are like,
have nothing to do with anime, but I still respect their content. - Oh, it's the same. - It's the best fucking feeling when you meet a guy or a girl who has nothing to do with your community and you find out that watch your content and you're like- - I love your stuff. - Yeah. - Wait a minute, I love your stuff too. - Everybody clapped. - Did we just become best friends? - That is the best moment 'cause you're like, we're gonna hang out, right? Hell yeah, we are. - We're gonna hang out. We're not gonna make a video. We're just gonna hang out. - Just get a chill.
- You know you found a good like new YouTuber friend when you meet for the first time and the word collab just isn't said for like the first five minutes. - Oh my God, that's the best. - Yeah. - Like you don't even take a selfie together. - No, you just hang out. - You just enjoy each other's like essence. - The worst, I fucking, the biggest thing I hate is when someone is like, "Hey, let's collab." And I'm like, "All right, what do you have in mind?" "I don't know, just wanna collab." - Just want your clout. - And I'm like, "Can you come with like an idea or something?"
I don't want to do the work if it's your collab. Like, I can't stand it when they're like, "Let's just collab, let's just do it." It's like, what? What do you want to do? Tell me what you want to do. - Because it's so easy to do a collab, isn't it? - I can't think of my own videos. What makes you think I'm gonna help you with yours? - Yeah, yeah, exactly. - Sorry, I'm angry, I just had to. So many moments where that happens. - You came in with a bit of a chip on your shoulder. - Oh my God. - I guess I do, too. - So like, how long do you,
- I assume you wanna like continue to like evolve your content in some ways, right? - Yeah, definitely. I definitely don't as much as it probably pains some people to hear, I don't wanna just stick with hentai. I want, 'cause you know, I have other things I like to do. I'm not some nymphomaniac as many people have alluded to. - Yeah, well, what are people's like assumption on you based on your content? - A lot of people have actually asked me, it's like, do you just like have sex all the time? Do you just read sex? Is that all you fucking do? And I'm just like, why would you think that?
- Whatever would make you think I'm horny. - Okay, it's like to you, is it like, it's hentai now, has your relationship with like hentai changed? 'Cause we were talking last week about how our relationship with anime has changed 'cause even though we still very much enjoy it, it is part of the job as well. - Yeah, if anything, I would say like my knowledge and just like appreciation of it has grown deeper and just like kind of like, it's more like,
I've never really changed too deeply. I would say like in terms of like enjoying it as sort of a hobby now, it's just kind of like just reading it, not even just for like to get horny or just like enjoy it. - The last thing I want is like I'm mid wank and I'm thinking this is gonna make a great video. - That's the thing, right? Like do you ever get to the point where you're just reading a doujian and in the back of your mind, you're like, I could just read this or I need to be reading this because
- That actually kind of, that does suck. Cause it's just like, sometimes you're just like, okay, all right. - I don't want to ruin porn. Not that I'm fond of it anyway. I just don't want to form an attachment. - This is why I find it so hard to stream sometimes. Cause I like, video games are like my one last bastion of like a hobby that I can just turn to whenever like maybe I'm like burnt out in anime. Like I-
- I get that, I do. I think it's like 50/50 for me on the video game. Like there's some video games like League of Legends is just stressful to stream. 'Cause like I'm inting, I'm 0 and 8 on stream, I'm laughing it off and every single time I die, you look at my eyes and I'm like, 0 and 9, ah!
But like, you know, playing like fucking Super Mario on stream is chill as fuck. - Yeah, gaming for me is half off as well because like I don't stream every game I play. - Same, same, same. - So like some games I'm just like, like I could have easily fucking streamed Animal Crossing for like five months straight and being like, yeah, that's content. But that game is so personal to me that I'm like, I don't want to stream it. Like that's just something that I just want to keep completely separate from any monetary thing. - Not any corpse party, right?
- Yeah, right. - 100%. If it's like Corpse Party, I'd be like, fuck y'all stream that shit. Because it's fucking Corpse Party. I'm not gonna play Corpse Party on my own, for my own enjoyment. Why the fuck would I do that? - I'd argue there's some, even though gaming for me is still like, I try to make it my personal thing, there are some games that I genuinely think are better enjoyed with an audience.
- Oh yeah. - You agree? - Yeah, absolutely. - Like, you know, I'm just trying to think of some at the top of my head. - Oh, like Mario 64, like when I streamed that shit. - Oh my God. - That shit was fucking fun. - Yeah, yeah. - Because people are just giving me shit for being like crap at the game. And I'm like, you want to try and play this game after like a 15 year gap? - Like stuff like,
like Mario Party is really fun being streamed. - Mario Kart's really fun as well. - Mario Kart's fun streaming. Like I think any game that has a very easy to understand concept with an immediate like feedback loop is like great. The games where you have to queue up five minutes, play for 40 minutes.
- Multiplayer games don't work. I don't think, I don't like watching other people play League on stream really, except for like the LCS. - Or the Worlds. - Yeah, Worlds, which is going on right now. - Because you started streaming recently, right Sydney? - Actually, before I started doing YouTube, I tried being a Twitch streamer full time. - No way. - Really? - What? - For like a good five months. - What did you stream? - I stream mostly Resident Evil. - Really? - I really like shooting games 'cause it feels just like .
- That was back when we were living in Thailand and Sydney, like because of her visa status, she couldn't get like a proper job there. So she would like try to take any like odd jobs or like contractual jobs that she could. And like on the side, I was like, well, you don't wanna be a YouTuber 'cause she was still kind of scarred from the leafy thing. So I was like, why not try streaming? You know, that's- - So how did that go for you? - It actually went okay. Like I got five viewers.
And actually my mods now that are like man my discord as well as like everything are actually the people, the five people from that time. - Oh really? - Yeah. - That's how you know that real one. - That's cute. - The original five. - I wanted to grow my audience and then Garnt's like just try doing YouTube. I'm like, all right, I'll do it. And then just did YouTube instead. - So do you plan to like go back into streaming? - Streaming is actually a lot of work, isn't it?
- Yeah, I was gonna ask about that. What do you think about the whole streaming versus YouTube debate? 'Cause they always fucking argue about it. - Yeah, it's like, oh, streamers don't put any effort in. - And the vice versa. - Yeah, vice versa. - Streaming is hard. Streaming, you have to talk to people constantly. You have to be entertaining nonstop for hours and hours on end. Constantly, it feels like you're being,
You have to be excited, hyper energetic, otherwise you're boring. - Yeah. - It's like if you had to pick, like if you say you could be just as successful in either career choice, being a YouTuber or a streamer, putting in the same amount of hours, which one would you prefer to be? - YouTube, 100%, 100% YouTube. - I think I'd do YouTube as well, to be honest. - 'Cause streaming is, I think every day, it's constant. - Yeah. - I think I find streaming easy.
I can just chat shit for like five hours, no problem. - Yeah, but you're like one of the most extroverted introverts I've met. Like there are times when I'm just like, I just don't wanna talk. Especially when I'm streaming. My stream limit is two hours. After two hours, I'm just like, man, I hate talking. Moving my mouth is just effort now. - I used to love doing 24 hour streams. I've done like five, I think in total. - That sounds like torture to me. - That sounds like torture. - The last,
- I'm like, you forget. I would be like, oh, I haven't spoke for a minute. I'm sorry, chat. - That's what it feels like though. - But it's good 'cause it gets people excited 'cause they know that they can just turn it on. But like, I don't know. I find streaming easy when I do it. But the problem is, is that I don't know how I could do it five days a week.
I like that with YouTube, okay, I can work 14 hours a day for a week if I want to. But I can also just not work for a week if I've prepared properly. And I really love that flexibility. And I feel like with streaming, even I've started getting it a little bit. I'm like, wait, why did I lose 200 subs? Or I haven't streamed in a week. And then it's like, oh shit, am I getting that pressure of a streamer where it's like, I've got to keep my subs up. - You've got to maintain your sub count. - Right, and it's almost like you're gamifying it, but it forces like,
you see these streamers that do like 12 hour day, the 12 hour streams a day, like four or five times a week. And I'm like, that can't be healthy. - They're just built for that kind of stuff, right? Like it's, they're just built different. - They're just built different man, what can I say? - Honestly, like I really do think that streaming
- I think I'm gonna say this and I'm gonna probably piss people off. I think streaming takes way less talent. I think it just takes- - A lot of patience, yeah. - I think it takes a lot of learning and effort. I think anyone can be a streamer. I think for some things on YouTube, it's a lot harder to succeed. I think YouTubers become very specialized. - I don't know. I feel like,
I feel like it's like half and half because I feel that with streamers to stand out in this day and age, you have to have something about you that makes you stand out. - That's true. - Or you have to be a VTuber. - Yeah, or you have to be a VTuber. And even then it's just a matter of time for VTubers get so oversaturated that it's gonna be- - It's already happening.
- Yeah, yeah, exactly, right? I mean, that's why "Hotter Life" have like a audition period. It's no coincidence that everyone in "Hotter Life" is really, really good at being entertaining. It's because they fucking auditioned for it. - I'm not saying that like, you know, it requires no talent whatsoever. I just think the barrier of entry to, I mean, even Twitch is really hard to get an audience on. I feel like YouTube, it's easy to get to the first thousand subs. Whereas on Twitch, it's hard to go from zero to 10.
Like that's hard. - I just feel like with YouTube, there's more opportunity for creativity. - There is, there definitely is. - 'Cause with streaming, you are way more limited in your ideas of what you can do. Not saying you can't do like original ideas, but you are way more limited than what you can put in a YouTube video per se. - That's true, that's true.
I don't know, I feel like YouTube has become so competitive recently to be even notable whatsoever. - I'd argue Twitch is like even more competitive. - Really, you think so? - I think Twitch is way more competitive. - Really, okay, okay, that's fair enough. - I would have no idea how I would go about growing myself on Twitch if I wasn't already established. - Yeah. - I wouldn't either. - Whereas on YouTube, I'd be like, maybe I can do like an interesting video idea or like tackle a certain topic in a way that no one else has. - Because let's be real, when it comes to Twitch discovery,
- Oh, it's garbage. - It's shit. Like people don't go on Twitch to watch VODs. That's just not how it works. - But like, as in like to be a successful Twitch streamer, is it the problem of I'm not entertaining enough or the algorithm is fucking me? Like what's like, or is it a mix? - It's a bit of both, I reckon. 'Cause like, again, it stems down to that whole thing of like, you know, if you have more than 20 viewers in a stream, every stream, then you're technically in the top 10% of Twitch. It's like, there's just,
anybody can do it, but to maintain that level of quality throughout the entire time, I think does take somewhat of a talent. - There's a lot of streamers like between 20 and 100 that just like you build up that like audience of just pure like commitment. Just like constantly interacting with them. And I think to get to that point is like just requires just not being a dick and just dedication. - 'Cause like I'll tell you,
I'll tell you one of the big reasons why I was able to get into like the VTuber scene versus like the live streaming scene before VTubers came along is because what I couldn't get into about like streamers is that they're basically always streaming, right? They could be like, they could be streaming eight hours a day. So you can tune in anytime you want but you don't know what they'll be doing. Sometimes I'll be playing a certain game then, you know
I get that you can just leave them on in the backgrounds, but I like having like a piece of content that I know I can watch. So with VTubers, most of their streams are like one hour or two hours long. So it's just like very segmented. So I know what I'm getting out of a VTuber stream. They're gonna be playing for this set amount and it's on a schedule. They're gonna be doing X,
X show or play playing X game. And I can be like, okay, I'm gonna watch this VG for this time. And then I could do something else. Whereas with Twitch, it's just like, do I wanna put them on in the background? Maybe, maybe not. There's nothing that inherently draws me to their content aside from if I really like their personality. - And also it's just so much easier to like watch back on VODs on YouTube because YouTube is built as a already prerecorded service.
So it's just way easier to like go back. Like if you missed a VTuber stream, then it's so easy to just go onto the channel and just see all the VODs. They're like a regular YouTube channel. Whereas with Twitch, looking through VODs is a fucking pain in the ass because they've set it up so shittily. - That's why everyone has to fucking highlight his channel. - Right, exactly. - Which I want to get as well. - Yeah, I saw someone start highlighting your Twitch streams as well. - Yeah, yeah, they did, they did. And I want to basically just get one where I can just like, you know,
split the ad rep with someone. So it's like, all right, they just do it. They get the ad rev. - Yeah. - And then it's just, you know. - It's a job opportunity. - Yeah, make content. 'Cause like, I mean, if I'm streaming, I may as well turn it into content, right? - Yeah. - And if I have nothing to do with it, great. Like I can just, you know. Yeah, I mean, it's whatever. I mean, yeah, I do think that Twitch is fucking hard to get the ball rolling. It's brutal. - Yeah, it's brutal.
- I mean, I would say that it's a skill set that I don't have to be successful on Twitch. Like I understand how the Twitch audience works and what the kind of content they want, but that's the kind of grind that I cannot do. - You're like the opposite of that. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Like you're very like chill. - Yeah.
- Like my social skills come in bursts, I say. And so does my inspiration. Like, I don't know what it is. I don't know if it's the same with you guys, but either I'm working on like five to 10 different projects at once, or I'm like struggling to think of one idea. - Yeah, that's exactly me. It's like either I'm like, man, I got so many fucking good ideas. And I know that when I'm done with these ideas, I'm like, fuck, what do I do next? - I'm screwed, yeah. - Which is why,
I would almost like, I almost liked Twitch. Cause it's like, I never have to worry about thinking of an idea. I just turn it on and chat shit or play games. Whereas with YouTube, it's like, fuck, I gotta keep one upping myself. I'm gonna go stale. It's like, how can you go stale if you're just playing games? I mean, there probably is examples of it, but you know.
So like how long do you, for example, like think you could like keep doing YouTube or like how long? Like, 'cause I think every YouTuber- - You went into the grind or you got a plan? - Yeah, is that like, 'cause I think every YouTuber gets asked the question like, "Oh, where do you see yourself in five years, 10 years?" Like that kind of stuff, right? Which I think is the stupidest question ever. - I guess it's hard to kind of,
I guess what feels right, you know, just go with the wind. Like, cause I definitely don't feel like doing, I'm, I'm trying to like, I have plans to make my channel not just hentai focused anymore. I want to show off some of my other talents, you know, voice work, maybe if I'm talented, but, um, I just like other things that I'm like, that are interesting in the anime sphere, um,
- 'Cause you've done like a few videos where you like go to bars that have existed. - Yeah, that are featured in manga. And honestly, I really like, I honestly really love those videos. I guess just seeing just me out and about. - Do you feel like you got drawn into just making content about hentai just 'cause of you saw how well it was doing? Do you feel pressure about it or? - Of course, of course I feel pressure about it. Believe it or not,
- Do I always wanna make content just about hentai? Of course not. - It just gets the clicks. - It just gets the, of course I enjoy it. I wouldn't be making anything I think is just for the views for money. - Who would do that? - Who ever did that at any point in my life? - Here's like a little trade secret that I'm just gonna spill right now. Like some of Sydney's videos,
some of Sydney's videos ideas have been ideas that I've pitched to her because sometimes I get ideas. - No way. - Sometimes I get ideas and I'm like, I can't do this for my channel. But like, I live vicariously through Sydney to be like, yo Sydney, I can't do this idea for my channel. Can you like do it? Can you do me a good one? - Can I do it? - Yeah, 'cause I remember the one, like the one that Jinxia wanted to like,
to talk about was a retake, which going back to the fan fiction thing I was talking about earlier, like this is the doujinshi that got me into thinking, hey, maybe fan fictions aren't that bad because this is retake two. Retake two explains to you is basically
just entire fucking retelling of the end of Evangelion. 'Cause I remember when I first watched the end of Evangelion as a kid, and I'm talking about the movie as well. It is not a satisfying conclusion if you don't understand what's happening. And especially like, I have a deeper appreciation of End of Ava now as an adult, but as a kid, I'm just like, I just wanna see what happens. And then through that, I discovered Retake and Retake,
is "Retake" is one of the most satisfying fan fictions I have ever read where it kind of ties up every loose ends that I wanted to be tied up in when I was watching the original Ava. And it gave me the same kind of conclusion and satisfaction within myself that I would have felt even if it was just a canon. Like in my head, it is kind of just canon. - I watched your video about it. - Yeah. - So that's the reason why I know it exists. - Yeah.
- And then I got to read it. - I mean, yeah, like we actually had to watch Evangelion first,
I never really watched Evangelion probably till recently. And then he showed me retake and we shared the exact same opinions on it. - That's true love. - You fapped to the Stojan, I fapped to the Stojan. - We came at the exact same frame. - Soulmate. - Oh my God, you skipped the blow jobs too? Same. - And I'm like, yo, Sydney, why don't you make a video about this? - And I'm like, oh my God, Sydney, why don't you make a video about this?
- And so you did. - So I did. - So you're just a giga simp. - I might be, honestly. I'm like his little entertainer and he's my agent, but we have like a little like sexy relationship. - You really didn't have to say that.
- You really gonna do me like this Sydney? - All I asked was what are you doing in front of me? - I don't know why I went in that direction. - I'm listening. - How is the Shibuya cat episode like 10 times more wholesome? - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know how she did it. Oh my God. - Oh my God. - Yeah, is there anything else you wanna mention or anything else you wanna talk about? - What the?
- Anything you want me to pretend to like ask you about? - Just ask like what jobs did I have previously? - What jobs did you have previously Sydney? I'm curious. - McDonald's, cool, thank you.
- I'm asking, okay. - Oh yeah, we're actually asking. - Okay, well when I was in high school, my first job was at a frozen yogurt place. And then I started, I moved to England and I worked- - That's the whitest thing you've ever said. Is that it? You're gonna elaborate more on the frozen yogurt story? - It wasn't a very long- - Did anything happen? How long were you there for? - Four or five months. - And nothing interesting happened? - And then I graduated high school. And then I started working at a bakery at a supermarket. No wait, before I graduated high school, supermarket, bakery. And then I moved to England.
and I started working at Weatherspoons. Worst job I've ever had. I hated it. If you guys don't know what Weatherspoons is, it's this cheap. I think you guys mentioned it. - Yeah, we mentioned it. - The old people there would start at like 8:00 AM. They'd always come in with like, the first thing they'd always order is shots of like whiskey or vodka and they just keep going. - Old British people are like, I don't know what's wrong, man. They always go to the pub at like 9:00 AM. - Yeah, always. - To meet up with their other old friends and they just get drunk. - Always. - And that's all they do every week. - And they were mean.
They were mean. They'd always be like, "You shouldn't be in our country." They were pretty mean. I'd be screamed at every day. And sometimes I'd cry and they'd be like, "Oh, now you're just trying to make me feel bad." And I'm just like, "Bitch, I just gave you a beer." - It's like, "Yes, you should feel bad." - And sometimes I'd pour a beer or not, 'cause I didn't really know how to pour beer. - Oh yeah, pouring a pint is a very strict procedure. - And they're just like, "You dumb bitch."
- An old British man would call you a dumb bitch.
- No way, I refuse to believe. - He doesn't call me a bitch. - A bitch, I can see it, but a dumb bitch? - A bitch I can see, but dumb bitch? Nah, that's too far. - I'll slice that half. - And then just like sometimes, I actually, when we moved to Thailand, I did- - That was when you kind of tried to dip your foot into a lot of things. - Yeah, I tried like a lot. - Do you wanna talk about that time where you were a English teacher?
- You're an English teacher in Thailand? - I was, I was an English teacher in Thailand. - Oh my God. - So Garnt's family had like a friend and I would like, it was allowed in the country for like me to like kind of help with like, 'cause yeah, it was all right. I wasn't being illegal, you know, stealing Thai people's money. But I was an English teacher for children from the ages of one to two.
- So you're basically a daycare. - That basically sounds like daycare. - Yeah, I just kind of did that. It's a bit exhausting, but. - I remember the very first English teaching job she had. So to preface, Sydney loves dogs. - Oh my God. - Whenever she sees a dog, you can hear it in her voice because the pitch in her voice. - She reaches a frequency that only dogs can hear. - It's like, ah!
- It's like a dog whistle. Yeah, exactly. It's like, she like her voice goes into like dog whistle territory. I remember the first day on the job, she was like dreading it. And I remember I had to drive her to this house where she had to tutor these kids. - Yeah, 'cause I was a private tutor for like kids that were like age seven and eight. And I was like, I don't wanna go to like these strangers house, but they like rape and kill me. And I was like, oh, but it's okay.
- Yeah, so she was like complaining the entire way there to be like, maybe I should quit now. I'm just gonna quit. Like, I'm gonna go there. I'm gonna look the person in the eye and I'm gonna be like, you know what? This job's not for me. So we pull up to this house and it's like a gated house with like a patio on it. And there are just these puppies. - Puppies, they were just born. Like, oh my God, the week old. - They were just these puppies just sitting in this patio. - And the moment Sydney looked at them, all of the windows in the neighborhood shattered.
And she was like, those are puppies right there. And then a woman comes out and was like, oh, are you the teacher? - No, that was the house. And she was like, I'm like, I love this job. Give me those puppies. There's like 10 of them.
- You're just teaching English while you're holding like full puppy. - Oh my God. - It's why, why? - Why are you so- - Puppy. - Give me the puppy. That's your English. - And I'd never seen Sydney like just get out of the car as fast as I had as she had just realized this was the house that she was about to teach in. - It was so fucking smelly.
I hated English teaching. Probably not the best. I was going to say, I didn't think your English was that good to begin with.
- Just because I say words like baby bit or small or like. - Eye penetration. Repeat after me. - Because like, okay, like going back to your wee phase. One thing I am kind of jealous of now, now that like living in Japan is that you have like no fear when it comes to attempting Japanese or like trying Japanese and everything like that. - Be like, oh chin chin.
- Do you hear me? - Not that, but like you have like no fear when it comes to like attempting your Japanese. And there have been times when like in, before we moved to Japan, 'cause I remember you were telling me the story about when I had my signing at Book Walker at AX and you actually met one of the authors there. - I don't think there was the Danmachi author though. I think I was, was it the one?
- It was like the second time I met you, this was my older brother. - It might've been . - It might've been . - I didn't honestly, 'cause I think I know you introduced, I was like a bit drunk. 'Cause we were day drinking. - Do you wanna explain the story? - So I was at an anime con with my Oni-chan, my brother at AX. - You could have just said brother. I'm out, I'm a head out.
And like all of us, like we went with a group, like going with Gart and our friends, some of our friends from England and my brother wanted to come because he likes going to anime cons as well.
and I'm really close with my brother. So he came with us to AX and we were like day drinking a bit, you know, as you can. - As you do at AX. - Especially at AX. - And then, but Garnt had a- - You got her to get through those lines. - Oh my God. - Oh my God. I got another story after this. - And Garnt had a signing at Book Walker not long after, and I was like about four or five beers deep. And that might as well be lethal at that point. - It's like 10-8.
- It was like 4:00 PM. Okay, but, and so I went in the back behind the Book Walker signing thing and- - I was having my signing. - Yeah, but someone else has finished their signing. And I was with my brother and I was a bit drunk, you know, I'm not gonna lie. And so Maylin, obviously, which you guys obviously remember from previous episodes was there and she's like, "Oh, do you wanna meet this guy's name who I don't even remember?" And I'm just like, "Sure." But I was pretty obviously drunk.
And I shook his hand and I was like, and I started speaking my shitty Japanese. I was just like, And then Meilyne just stood there and was like, and this guy's like author of "Monster Musume." - Oh my God. - Yeah, 'cause I remember that exact same day. We were walking around the AX hall
And then we see Connor, we just see Connor standing there and we don't know why he's just standing there. And we, so before we can even react, we were with some friends, like it was me, Sydney and some of our friends. And Sydney just goes and like, just like says hello to Connor. - 'Cause Connor's just standing there. - Just like a good old- - Why is Connor just standing there? - Just like a good-
just saw you in this like a lot and was like oh hey dude and then after I said hey I hear this like I got called like a bitch by five people and I look to my left there's this long line of girls ready waiting you're fucking skipping us and I got called bitch so many times like you're fans and I was like holy shit I didn't know you were doing a signing the 93% strike no no
- I'd call you a bitch if you cut in front of me. That's a bitch. - And then I walked away and I said, "I'm sorry." And then like all these girls are just like, they were so mean. If you were one of those girls, fuck you, you cunt. I hope you feel bad. - Thank you for supporting me. - Thank you for calling Sydney a bitch. You made a funny story.
- I mean, I'd be annoyed if someone cut, you know what I'm saying? - I didn't know. - They couldn't know the context. - Yeah. - 'Cause everyone was waiting to like take a picture, I guess. - I also have another story. - All right, go ahead. - I just wanna say this is actually the coolest one.
- Okay, so we were at the Funimation party at AX 2017, 18. I think it was 18. - Yeah, it was like two years ago, I think. - Yeah. - So we were drinking in it and I obviously had to go to the bathroom and they only had one bathroom in the place. - This was the Funimation party. - Yeah, this was the Funimation party. I did mention that.
- Okay, sorry. - So I went in and then I see this guy just laying on the fucking floor in there. And I was like, I kind of get up and I wake him up. - So was he in like the women's toilet? - There was only one toilet. - Oh, okay. - And he's just like face down. I thought he was dead. Like I thought something he over drank or he was like dead or something. 'Cause he was face down in the middle of the toilet and he wasn't moving. And I kept waking him up.
And then it's like, I kind of like kept shaking him. And then he's just like, I realized, 'cause he starts speaking Japanese, he's a Japanese guy, right? And then I was just like, he's just like in the most like really broken English. He's like, I'm one of the animators for Boku no Hero. I'm like, can you get the fuck out of the bathroom? - I don't care who you are, I need a piss. - And he's just like, when can I see you again?
He just told you he's the animator for Book of No Hero. Because some of the animators from Book of No Hero were there. And he's just like there. He's like, I'm like, are you okay? Like, can you just get out? I had to take a piss, dude. And he's just like, can I see you again? I'm like, I'm trying to take a shit. But he was like,
'cause he's like obviously really wasted. - We all have it. - We've all been there. - So more than once. - So yeah, I think we've told enough stories for a lifetime. Is there anything you wanna like shout out? I guess on your side of things. 'Cause you are technically a guest on the show. Even though we see each other like it. - Promote your shit. - Please subscribe to Sitsnap and- - What a marketing genius.
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- Oh my God. - All right. - That's the end, bye. - She's never coming back.