Finding the BEST Era of Anime | Trash Taste #215
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- What is the best era of anime? We are going to find out today on this episode of Trash Taste. - You're not even gonna introduce us, Garnt? - I am your host for today. - Not even like a welcome back to Trash Taste? - By the way, welcome back to Trash Taste. You know what channel this is at this point. I'm your host for today, Garnt. Joining me once again are the boys. - That's us. - Yes. And our producer has made a very pretty document

for us because we thought it'd be fun to go through some of the eras that anime has gone through and reminisce on when we on the anime that we remember which is not going to be on the first segment. No, no. I guess I mean in terms of anime history I don't know a whole lot. Yeah. I know like a tiny bit especially but like not as much as

some older folks who are more knowledgeable on the older era of anime. - How's your anime knowledge, Cherry? - It's all right, I guess. - It's all right. - It's all right. - It's all right. I only did an hour long video on manga here.

- That's not anime. - That's not anime though. That's not anime. - Never heard of it actually. - They moved a little bit. - Movement, I sleep. - I saw you did this video on your second channel as well Joey, which there was a video where

there was the anime openings or like all the anime openings throughout time. I watched that video as well on stream and I'm not going to lie anything before like 1990. I was like, I have never heard of this before. Yeah. What is this? I've only heard of some of them only because like it,

Especially in the Japanese otaku community in the 2000s, they were still kind of talked about as the OGs. So every now and then, I would hear the Astro Boy opening and shit like that. I'd be like, yeah, I know that one, obviously. Or Gigantor right there. When did they start doing anime openings? Probably around the...

- Probably. - I'd say probably around the 50s or 60s. - Probably pretty early. - 'Cause Looney Tunes had an anime opening. - Did it? - That's the OG. - That is the OG. I didn't realize. - That's the OG anime opening, I think. I know there was cartoons before that, but.

- Yeah, who needs fucking J-pop? - That's a certified banger. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - It is, everyone knows it. - Instantly recognizable. - So I guess let's just jump into it. So again, we're gonna go through each eras of anime, obviously. - Do you know any of these, Connor? - I do, I do. I actually do, yeah. I mean, obviously, okay, listen. So we're starting with the first era, right? And obviously as we get more and more, there are more anime being made. So the eras will get tighter and tighter. But yeah, obviously I know Astro Boy, I know Kimba the White Lion.

I know that Nakamura Gatama is like the first anime. Yeah. Right? Yeah. Well, at least popularized. I'm not really sure. That's before they... Well, I mean, that was obviously, I think, right before...

- 1917, right? So that was before everyone started realizing like we should make propaganda out of cartoons. And the West did this too. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Obviously this covers a long era of Japanese history. A lot of stuff's been- - Very tumultuous era, that's for sure. - This is a lot. - It's like, yeah, I mean, that's how a lot of Japanese history goes. It goes 1917 and then 1950. - I wonder what was happening

- Nothing happened. - Probably nothing, no churros, wine. - Nothing happened. - The world was actually pretty boring in that time. - But I didn't know that "Dororo" is from this time. Was you recently? - Yeah, I've recently watched all of the remake, right?

And I know it was originally out in the 1960s. - Wow. - Based on a manga back then. - Yeah, because it was the new "Do-do-do" was significant because it was exactly 50 years before the first one. - Oh, it was. - Wow. - Yeah, and the remake was- - So they did it as a 50th anniversary. - Yeah, I watched "The Godfather" for the first time recently, right? - Yeah. - And I feel like that's insane when I watched that 'cause I think it's 1970.

that film came out. And we're talking about this like it's fucking ancient. - Yeah. - Like we have to dust these slides off. But that film was amazing. - Yeah, it was ancient. - Yeah, but like, it's so weird how we view time like that. - I think it's because you see black and white and you're like 1940s. - Old, old, old. - Old, old, old. Color, all right, that's like 1970 at least. - Like, okay. - All right, here's the real question. Has anyone here seen a single thing on TV

this list. I've watched a couple of episodes of Speed Racer. Have you? Yeah. I did a video like fixing Speed Racer. Oh. Like at least making fun of it. Yeah. Because the dub is hilarious if you haven't watched it. So I actually watched a couple of episodes for that to kind of figure out what Speed Racer was about. And I think I left more confused. Because I'm just kind of like,

It just goes around. Always racing his way out of a situation. All I've seen from Speed Racer is these out of context clips of the show that would get posted on YouTube every now and again. And Speed just seems like the most, the biggest fucking psychopath I've ever seen in my life. Yeah, he's kind of a dick in the show. I think,

- I think there was this one clip where there was this racer who was like, "Speed, you should let this person win. He has a wife and child and he needs the money for surgery." And Speed's like, "Fuck them kids." - Yeah. - He's like, "No." - Screw it. - I love that one thing where the guy gets hit off the edge of the road. - Yeah. - He goes, "Ah!"

Really loud, short shout. I love that. This era has just that jankiness. It's cool though. A lot of like, even like, like cool, like retro stuff that you find in stores or even styles that have been derived from them. You see here, like, my God, I don't know what Gigantor is, but I swear I've seen those robots everywhere.

- Giganto is the very first mecha. - Well, technically, yeah. - He looks like a Rival of Bender. - Yeah, it's a... Wait, is it the first mecha? 'Cause I thought it was like Tetsujin 28-goo? - Tetsujin 28-goo is Giganto. - Okay, so I was- - Giganto is the English title. - Okay, okay, okay. - But this was before the concept of the person inside of the robot. - Yeah. - Because Giganto, the way the main character controls the robot is like literally through like a double Joy-Con set up, like it's a toy car or something. - Oh, cool, cool.

And it wasn't until Mazinger Z where that was the first time where the guy was like, hey, what if we put the guy in the robot?

- Thank you, thank you, Joey, for informing me about my Mecha. - A lot of people think it was started with Gundam, but it wasn't. - No, no, Gundam is like real- - Gundam popularized it. - Yeah. - Well, you know what they say, right? The person who's at second always, you know, has the most success. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Yeah. - So that was Nagai Go, the creator of Devilman, who created that. - Is there anything else that you think you can talk about here?

Kimba the White Lion? I mean, that's incredibly famous. Yeah, I mean, that inspired Lion King, right?

- Well. - Isn't, okay. Isn't this like, okay. - I said that in my video and apparently a lot of people gave me shit for it. - Okay. - Apparently there's like proof that they did it, but then there's like, I don't know. I've watched both "King of the White Lion" and "Lion King" and I'm like, this is a pretty goddamn similar. - Wasn't there like a three hour, your movie sucks video about comparing the two? - Yeah, I think it was something like that. - I mean, to be honest, if "Lion King" ripped off anything, it was just Shakespeare. It's literally just a, it's just a, it's just Hamlet. - It's just Hamlet, right? - Yeah, it's just Hamlet. - But again, again, Shakespeare covers very,

- And you have to understand as well that like Tezuka Osamu like literally started drawing because he was obsessed with Disney movies. So like, you know- - So Disney made anime and then anime turned around. - Disney made anime and then Disney was also like, let's take some ideas from anime. It's like, all right, what goes around comes around, I guess. - Yeah, who cares basically.

Yeah, I mean, none of us were alive during this era. I mean, my dad fondly talks about, you know, because my dad does not watch anime. But he still fondly talks about how he used to watch Astro Boy and Gigantor growing up.

And like at the time he was like, he didn't, he wasn't even aware that these things were from Japan. Like he was just like, oh, this is just like another cartoon on TV. And then it's not until years later where he was like, oh, this is like, this like weird Japanese thing. I didn't know Moomin, but Moomin's Finnish, right? Yeah. I guess they animated. They animated it in Japan. That's kind of cool. Damn. Yeah.

Damn. My mom grew up watching that. Oh, okay. So a lot of these shows are like... Yeah, I'm sure my dad grew up watching Speed Race and stuff like that. Yeah, I know a lot of dads grew up watching Speed Race. I only know about these shows because until years later when I found time to actually go back and watch it. Yeah. But...

yeah, you know, they're cool. It's like watching an old, it's like watching a film from like the 40s, you know? It's like, it's so different that it's hard to like relate to and really like get into as much as like the kids back then did. But it's like, it's a cool piece of like history. Yeah, that's basically what I think about this, which I'm just like, I probably won't go back and watch any of these if I'm being honest. I'm not going to be at home on a rainy day being like, you know what? I might rewatch Nama Kuragawa just for the good old times sake. I want the critics, they can watch stuff and tell me about

If I wanted to become more cultured and find out more about anime history, that's probably when I'd come back and watch some of these. Yeah, totally. So moving on to the next era, which I'm going to be guessing is the Gundam era. Is that what it's called? The Gundam era? No, but... It's the golden age of Mecha. Yeah, the golden age. Very much a golden age of Mecha. 1975 to 1985. So I have seen most of these.

Yeah, I've seen most. Actually, I've seen all of these. God fucking damn it, Joe. We're fucking weed, all right? I've seen all of these. I know. I mean, Dorian, one I fucking grew up with. You know which one I feel like I see the most in Japan out of all of these? I feel like Galaxy Express. Express 999. Yeah, that is a classic. I see it everywhere in Japan. It's still, and everyone sings the goddamn opening song. Yeah. It's like,

So popular in Japan still. - Dude, my mom fucking loves this show. That and the Rose of Versailles, the bottom right there are my mom's two favorite anime. - Yeah, I mean, I think this era aside from, you know, definitely "Fist of the North Star" very much coincides with what was going on in pop culture at the time globally. 'Cause obviously "Star Wars"

was a massive thing. Space opera and sci-fi were very, very prevalent in this day and age. And then Japan found out that, you know, Gundam, when that got released... I mean, it's just sick. They're like, we have just created an empire. Gundam still look cool.

So like, I feel like, yeah, it's just cool. And the newer seasons just like keep changing it up and like actually they try and keep it like relevant to the current like taste. I read an article about the Rose of Versailles and about, it was basically explaining, well, I guess the argument was that

in like 1970s, 90s, 80s Japan, it was hard to tell a lot of stories that were maybe a little more taboo in the frame of Japan. So a lot of the time when they wanted to cover topics like maybe... Well, The Rose of Versailles is about the French Revolution, I think. Right, right. But is that... Okay, I could be wrong. It might have been Rose of Versailles. It might have been another show. But it was talking about how...

to kind of talk about more taboo topics in Japan. Like they would frame it as being in Europe so that it could be, it was like seen as more acceptable. - A cultural difference. - Right, yeah. Seen as like maybe these love stories or certain whatever norms or taboos that can be broken in Japan at the time. It's kind of interesting. - I guess that makes sense. - A lot of stories back then that were a little more raunchy were normally set in Europe.

Yeah. That makes sense. And I didn't realize this because we have Captain Tsubasa as well on there. That is really, really big in like certain countries that got the license for it. I know I think it's big in like, it was like massive in France. A lot of places in like South America. A lot of the countries that where it's like football is the main thing is like huge. Yeah. Because I don't know. I don't remember exactly who, but I remember like,

seeing like a list of like pro football players, like world famous pro football players who were like inspired to like play or continue football because they read or watched Captain Tsubasa. - I can imagine you're about to quit. You're about to call it a day and you watch one episode, you're like, just when I thought I was out. - It's like damn, Tsubasa the goat. - Drag me back in. - Yeah. And of course, Fist of the North Star, which I think very much

Again, mirrors the 80s, like the big macho action movies back in the day. And this was around the time as well where anime wasn't afraid to start getting a little bit more violent. A little bit more metal. It's more so the next decade where they just went fucking off the walls. Late 80s, early 90s was edge.

- Oh yeah, the OVA era was just like- - Even in like America, right? It's just all about edgy, like how can you make something so fucking nuts? But what is Candy Candy? - Candy Candy is a shoujo manga from the 60s, I believe. And it's kind of like a predecessor to Magical Girl, sort of.

It's weird. It's like a mixture of like magical girls slash I'm trying to remember exactly, but it's something like that. I know again, this is another title that my mom got me onto because she grew up watching this show.

- Yeah, I mean, you see a lot of precursors to a lot of genres in here. It seems like, especially with Urusei Yatsura, who I would argue is like the very first- - Created the first waifu. - Created the first waifu kind of like character. - The sims were born. - Sims were born for this. - Sims were born for Dama-chan, man. - And yeah, looking at this, imagine seeing this air on screen as like a young boy. - Oh my God, yeah, if you were like a 12 year old just about to enter puberty and you saw Dama-chan on the screen, bro, God damn.

you'd be like women are the best what about vampire hunter d i never watched this show but i've heard quite a lot about it's like giga violent show okay yeah it's good though again like a lot of these shows i watched when i was in like high school and stuff so i don't very much remember a lot of i mean naska obviously is like yeah i can't believe naska aired here i thought for some reason i thought naska was like

90s for some reason yeah I think Noska's 84 it's the first first Ghibli film

- Technically no. This is before Ghibli was founded. Nausicaa is the reason why Ghibli got founded. - 'Cause then they made Castle in the Sky? - Yes, Castle in the Sky is technically the first one. But people just like, it's basically the same staff that founded Ghibli who worked on Nausicaa anyway. So it's like, it's a Ghibli. - It's like calling Gurren Lagann a trigger show, you know, because even though it was made by Studio Gainax,

the entire team went on to found Studio Trigger. - I haven't watched Naska. I watched Castle in the Sky. I haven't watched Naska. - You haven't watched Naska? - Naska's one of my favorite actually. - Naska's one of my favorites as well. - So he fell off after that? - He's been putting out slop since '80. - It's like those bands that debut on their first album. And it's like downhill from there. - I think Jaws is Spielberg's best film actually.

- All the other shit that he did afterwards. - He just tried, he tried to match that height. - Fucking kind of fell off man. - To be fair though, like there are some scenes in Nausicaa which like to this day are fucking beautiful. - Yeah, I was confused Nausicaa and Castle in the Sky for some reason. I don't know why I thought they looked similar. - I mean, they definitely took a lot of ideas from Nausicaa. - Yeah, I don't know if it's courtesy. - But yeah, Nausicaa. - I like that shit though. - Yeah, I will say looking at this, it does remind me like,

especially when we're going to get into, I guess, more modern anime. Like maybe Miyazaki had a point. What, saying only anime is dog shit? I don't know. It just seems like looking back at these era and looking at what anime has evolved into, especially in terms like animation styles and the types of characters you see in these kinds of shows, it seems like more and more in the modern day, anime characters and anime writing seems to be

inspired by other anime. - Oh yeah, totally. - If that makes sense. - I mean the light novel industry has been struggling with this for like the past, like basically since Haruhi. - Yeah. - I guess one thing that I guess I feel like I could say is that at least here, right? You look at all of this and you think of like, yeah, this is all like anime, right? - Yeah.

Nowadays, it's very hard to view anime and Doraemon as being in the same genre almost as what anime is now. It doesn't feel that...

I guess even though these are all very different levels of maturity, these shows, right? And gore and violence. They also felt anime, or at least what anime was back then. I feel like anime now is kind of, as we'll see, kind of changed to be more of a style. I feel like even though it's technically all anime, right? But I feel like anime as we know it as anime fans definitely has changed. Like we don't,

someone who watches Gundam or whatever is not watching Doraemon or watching any of these shows for kids and wouldn't even consider them. It's being like the same feel. - Yeah, I mean, people still think that way. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, right? I mean, there are different genres. Anime is like a medium that is comprised of a lot of different genres. But I think at this point and especially up until like the early 2000s, it was easy to watch so many different genres.

And now it just seems like the anime community is just different bubbles of different fandoms for the genres. Yeah, like gaming. I just feel like anime is a gaming name. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Totally. All right. Let's look at the next era then, I suppose. All right. Leave the room and change the slide. Yeah. So this was very much a sci-fi era, and I think the sci-fi continues all the way up into the 90s. Yeah. Okay, this is a much...

- Oh man. - This era now is getting to the point where there are so many more notable shows since we've gone into like all these bangs. - I feel like these are all the ones that inspired the shows that we went on to like love. - Yeah. - Oh yeah. - Yeah, carry on with like Captain Tsubasa being like

fucking massive in so many different countries that we're not English speaking at least. Saint Seiya as well. - Saint Seiya is so good. - Yeah. - I never watched Saint Seiya. - I'd never watched it either because it's kind of like, I would say it's as close to like Super Sentai in terms of like that kind of vibe. - Got it.

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I don't know, on crack. Like, it just gets to like absurd territories, especially later in the manga. And it's considered like a goaded 80s Shonen Jump manga. Yeah. And I know that has a

massive massive fan base as well huge but uh surprisingly not in many english-speaking countries that i know of yeah i wonder where that like comes from is that purely just from like some countries had the rights okay i don't know i don't know why english-speaking countries didn't have the rights to like captain subasa or sensei yeah but apparently um

I was talking to someone from Mexico and he was saying, yeah, it was basically because the rights for these were so cheap that they got local dubs of it and they would just repeatedly play it over and over on TV. Yeah, and I also think that... I don't know when it started, but I don't think there was a huge demand for Japanese shows, at least initially. I think it was more so just people couldn't...

kind of like how my dad viewed it. Whereas like he didn't even think about it being from Japan. They just thought like, oh, it's just another weird cartoon from somewhere. - Especially in English, right? We already had a very strong domestic market for animation, for TV shows, right? So I think it took a little- - We had like Cartoon Network, Nickelodeon. - Yeah, I think it like took a while for them to realize. And I think I remember, 'cause I watched a really good thing about, it was talking about how Power Rangers eventually came over. - Yeah.

and how that was a huge hit. But basically it was just like relatively cheap to get the license and then dub it. And then that was a big moneymaker. - Well, Power Rangers was directly based off of like- - Yeah, it was literally just a Japanese show, right? And then just dubbed over it and then filmed extra, which is really weird. - And then they made their own universe. - Yeah, which is also really weird and I feel like would never ever happen today.

you would not be allowed to do that to a show. You would not be allowed to- - No, you'd be surprised like nowadays, the amount of like Power Rangers clones that have come out that look and feel exactly the same as like the OG Power Rangers. - But like you couldn't take a show from like Japan and like butcher it and like add in scenes and you wouldn't be able to do that. So I think that's like a cool part of its time. But I imagine that it was probably just a thing of like,

Because even then, I think, when did Ghibli films start getting released?

- Overseas? - Yeah. - Probably around Princess Mononoke. - Yeah, probably around Princess Mononoke. - Right. - So I think that's probably when it started to kick off and obviously Pokemon was a huge one. - Well, where it really kicked off was when Spirited Away won the Academy Award. - That's right. - Yeah. - 'Cause I don't know why Disney started to just like, I think the big thing about Ghibli films is when Disney started dubbing it. And it wasn't just another anime dubbing company. It was Disney with A-list celebrities dubbing your favorite shows, which was super weird.

I've heard a lot about City Hunter, but I've never watched it. Also another goaded Shonen Jump manga. They just released a movie, I think as well. Yeah, they released a new movie for it. I mean, City Hunter, again, is kind of like Saint Seiya, where it's just one of those goaded 80s Shonen Jump shows that just have such a dedicated audience. Is he a cop? Yeah, he's like a detective, but he's really pervy.

- Meliodas is a call. - Actually I have the perfect way to describe Sini Honda. Think of protagonist from Golden Boy becomes a detective. - Oh, okay. - That sounds sick. - He's the kind of perv where you're like, all right, you're all right. You know, it's like, all right. You're not like Meliodas. - Obviously Akira. - Of course Akira, which, okay. Would you say that for its time right now,

Like obviously Ghibli became a massive massive studio internationally. I feel like at this time Akira dominated so much of the conversation of anime being an export to like the countries that we grew up in because it was like the way anime was marketed when I was like growing up and I guess like back when

You know, back when I was just a kid, anime was like the edgier cartoon. And Kira was just the poster child of that edgy, kind of like darker aesthetic that anime had back then. How old were you when you watched Akira? I was...

- First time I watched it, I was probably like nine or 10. - Oh my God. Isn't it like super violent? - Yeah, but also during that time, my dad made me watch "Wicked City," which is even worse. - Oh, your dad's just too responsible. - And "Ninja Scroll." - Those are the top three. - Just very irresponsible parents. - Yeah, I was like, I was, you know, I remember like I was 10 years old and I was watching "Ninja Scroll" and I'm like, "Holy fuck, dad, I should not be watching this." There are so much blood and titties in this thing. Like I couldn't even comprehend it. - Yeah.

Obviously Dragon Ball started in this era. Which just completely changed the world. Yeah, Legends of the Galactic Heroes as well. I thought that started earlier. 88 I think. Was it 88? Well didn't it like built on all the foundation? Yeah, basically it was built off the foundation of space operas that had come before.

And it is just the perfect space opera. You know, I still think Legend of the Galactic Heroes has aged wonderfully. It's one of the best. It's,

Very much regarded as one of the best anime of all time. And I would have to agree with that. I would also have to agree. It's kind of cool because this year it feels like it really does feel like the genres are really starting to now like really flash out. Yeah, I feel this is the era where like, because like the 70s to like the mid 80s was when they were still trying to figure out what anime even was.

was yeah and you know kind of like playing around with ideas and then it's from around this period where like you started to see genres now just like really like okay this is this genre and this is this genre and done really really well I love how you put I love how Alex put Maison Ikoku in there as well though he's after my heart with

that one what is it so it's created by rumiko takashi uh same person who made udase yatsuda inuyasha all those uh but it's like a really cute slice of life rom-com that constantly gets undervalued but i will say probably the best rumiko takashi like

Did this start Slices of Life rom-com? It didn't start it, but I think it's just like, because Rumiko Takahashi's art style is so bubbly and cute. Yeah. I just think those kinds of stories work better for her art.

Not to say that like Inuyasha or like Ramahalf are bad, but I just think like with an art style like that, it makes sense to write a story like this. - What a goaded mangaka man. - Everything she's made has been an actual banger. - Imagine like most artists or most mangaka wants to make like one revolutionary show. I swear to God, she made like four.

Yeah, she was like, so she came out with Urusei Yatsura, a media banger, created the first waifu. First waifu. And then he was like, Mezo Nikoku, I'm going to be really cute with it. And then she's like, I'm going to drop another banger, Ramaha. Yeah, yeah. And then I'm going to drop another banger, Inuyasha.

Yeah, like literally everything she's made is amazing. There's also three Ghibli movies on here as well. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Kiki's Delivery Service and Grave of the Fireflies. How many movies did they release in the space of like four years? Oh, dude, they were locked in during this time. They must have been locked in. Every movie they made was like humongous. How the fuck did they release so many bangers back to back? Because I think it was only like a couple of years later they started releasing one on OKAY.

That's crazy. They were locked in. They were locked the fuck in. What happened? Miyazaki went into his 27th retirement. And it wasn't even all Miyazaki as well, isn't it? Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. They weren't the Miyazaki studio back then. Exactly. Well, Grave of the Fireflies is not a Miyazaki film. Exactly, exactly. You know what? I haven't watched that one. I actually haven't watched Tojo either.

- I feel Totoro, you had to have grown up with it. It's hard to watch it. - Everything I've seen about Totoro, I wouldn't like. But "Grave of the Fireflies" I think I wanna watch. - "Grave of the Fireflies" is, it's hard to watch. - Yeah. - Not in a bad way, in like a, this is too sad way. - Well, I like watching those stuff. - I watched the Chinese dub of "Grave of the Fireflies" and I was crying. - What? Okay.

- Why did you watch the Chinese guy? - Because we had the VCR of "Grave of the Fireflies" growing up, the Japanese one that I used to watch with my sister every now and then when we wanted to feel sad. And then we lost that VCR. - We bought a new one. - No, no, we didn't even do that. And then we went onto like YouTube

And for some reason at the time, the only YouTube rip off "Grave of the Fireflies" was the Chinese dub. - I've never heard of anyone who watched that movie so bad they were watching the Chinese dub. I kind of feel like if I just didn't find the dub, I would give up. - Yeah. But I still cried in the first five minutes. That just goes to show the power of this show. - All right. - Yeah. - Damn, what a cool era though. - Yeah, lots of, and like, I think as well, the one thing I love about this era is that again, it's like,

- There's just so many different art styles that it's just like actually interesting to see. - Yeah, no, yeah. This is definitely where you can definitely start to feel like each genre having its own style. - Yeah, absolutely. - And really going down. - I've never seen "Bubblegum Crisis."

It's just one of those like kind of Charlie's Angels cyberpunk-y shows that was like really good. I didn't watch a whole lot of it, but I would watch a couple of episodes every now and then because I played on TV in Australia. Yeah. Weirdly. And I would catch it every now and then. And I mean, because I'm like jumping in around like, you know, episode 50 or whatever it was. I'm like, I don't know what the fuck's happening, but it looks cool. I feel like they used to play more anime.

before we were growing up. 'Cause I feel like in the 90s, Cartoon Network and Nickelodeon were crushing it so hard that there was no room for anything that wasn't Pokemon or Yu-Gi-Oh! or Beyblade. - Or like Digimon. - Digimon. - Yeah, Digimon Cardcaptors as well. - That's quite a lot. - I never saw Cardcaptor Sakura. - It was on ITV. - Bro, I never fucking saw this. - Yeah, yeah, it was called Cardcaptors back in the day.

Still remember the opening. Okay. Am I the only one who kind of misdubbed openings? - I mean, I fuck with the One Piece one. I watched One Piece when I was on TV. I like the One Piece one. - The four kids dub one? - I like the One Piece rap. - See, I never heard it growing up. So it wasn't until I was an adult that I heard it and I'm like, all right, this guy's gonna slap. - Obviously, obviously- - The Pokemon one is goaded.

- Yeah, the English Pokemon opening is great. - Dragon Ball Z fucking goaded. - Oh my God, the Dragon Ball Z English opening? - Yeah. - Dragon, dragon, ball, dragon. I was like, yeah! - Yu-Gi-Oh! Goaded. - How is that not iconic, man? I don't care about- - Fire, they did. - Do you even know the Japanese Yu-Gi-Oh! opening? - No. - Yeah, they did kind of go crazy with it.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Damn. You know, they had some, they had a lot of bangers, some misses. I firmly believe the opening. I'm okay with them changing the song. Yeah. If they're wanting. Oh, for the dub versions? Yeah. Why not? Why not? If I want to listen to Yellow On, I'll listen to it. It's not the end of the world. I like having the choice. Yeah. All right. We have gotten into the 90s now. Obviously, Evangelion was...

The GOAT The GOAT But there were a lot In this era JoJo OVA JoJo Yeah the OVA JoJo Was that big in Japan? Because I don't know how big The JoJo OVA was Not really I feel like JoJo was like Just iconic in general I mean they like skipped everything

Yeah. They like glossed over everything. It was like just a poorly done OVA. I mean, it looks cool. Like I like how it looks. It's very 90s. But I'm not mad. It's like kind of whatever. I guess the only thing that I think is missing from this list in general is just this is the era of like the OVAs, right? Yes. Just like the really, really underground OVAs. The violence jacks, the genociders. Yeah. Right. Which were like unironically fucking awesome.

This was the era I don't know why they stopped the OVA era Or why the OVA era started in general Yeah But this is the era where you can find so many weird underground shows That were just like Had so many experimental ideas Is Angel's Egg around this period? I think it might be It might be right? Actually it might be 1997 Okay If I remember correctly I'm not sure That number just feels right Yeah

- 85? - 85? - I was way off. - I thought it was the 90s. - I was way off, wow, okay. - I wonder, was it mainly to do with how like anime was,

distributed with how... Why there were so many OVAs? Was it just more profitable at the time? Maybe there was just like... Maybe it was profitable because this was the time when you could get anime distribution that didn't have to rely on television. Right, right. And I think that also meant that you could just get away with things that you would...

- Absolutely, yeah. No way to be able to get on. - I mean, this is during the period where like on like Japanese like TV shows and like game shows and stuff, like you would just see like titties. - Yeah, I mean- - The TV in general, I think would like a lot less strict on like just censorship and like that kind of stuff. So anime was just took full advantage of that. We're like, oh, we're gonna make the most fucked up shit.

It is crazy watching some of these shows. You're like, wow. Yeah. They're just ripping titties for no reason. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'll be like, no need for titties in the scene. It's not even horny. They'll just be titties. You're like, oh. Yeah. I was watching, I was watching the original, I don't know if you had this on your recording, Joey. When the original Dragon Ball opening came on. Oh,

- Oh yeah, and it's just a shot of Goku's dick out in the open. - What? - Not adult Goku, child Goku. - Child Goku. - Oh no, I do remember this now. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - It's just this like tiny little wheelie. - Yeah, 'cause they draw it like. - Yeah, like a little cartoony way. - No, no, no, no. - Could you repeat that? - Goku with his fucking seven inch shlaw.

- Full girth on display. - Yeah, it's just child Goku naked, just running about. - Full legs spread out. - Just full display. I happened to pause it on that frame and I was just like, no, no, no, no. - Yeah, 'cause was Dragon Ball censored when it was aired on TV? 'Cause I remember when I watched the original Dragon Ball, there were parts where Bulma showed her tits and stuff like that. That was cut out. - No, that was on full display, bro.

- Bro. - Full display. - If I saw that as a kid, man. - Oh, dude, I'm not. - That is an awakening happening, you know what I mean? - Dude, I can't even imagine the amount of Japanese boys in the '90s who had an actual sexual awakening with characters like Bulma. - Yeah, yeah. - Right? - Yeah, 100%. - There was no stigma around nudity. - No. - Yeah. - 'Cause again, this was the era where you would casually see it on TV.

Yeah, and it's like, whatever. Well, yeah, I guess because that's more of Japanese history, right? There's never been a Puritan Western influence that's nudity and sex bad. Yeah, exactly. At least for a long period of Japanese history, I think being nude or having sex was not seen as anything taboo at all. This is the country that has public balls. People are used to it. I guess...

That was like a kind of a holdover. - Do you guys remember your teenage awakening at all? The film slash movie slash TV show slash character that was just like. - Oh, this is, this is, well, I actually don't know. - No, I don't know. I don't know. I don't think it made that much of an impact on me. - No. - I think I was loyal to the chief. The master chief.

I'd get back to Valhalla, okay? - He took his helmet off in that one scene. That's when I had my sexual life. - It's like, "Oh!" - It's like that scene- - He's gorgeous! - That scene in the fucking, the Buzz movie that flopped when they edited Buzz when he took off his helmet and he was just naked. Just imagine the chief, butt naked, and then his helmet comes off last. - Yeah. - It's like, "Are you ready?" -

- I think mine was pretty early actually. - What was it? - I think mine was like Officer Jenny in Pokemon. - Oh yeah. - I mean like, I think I knew they were hot, but I didn't know why. - Yeah, I think I was still too young to process that. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - I think I was like, I like her. - Yeah. - I'm like, she's cool. - We could be good friends. - Yeah. - I was like, why do I like it when she's on screen? I don't understand why. - She takes care of them. - Yeah.

Obviously we had Yu Yu Hakusho in this era as well. Slam dunk. Best sports manga ever written. Single handedly made basketball. Single handedly brought basketball to Japan. We need something like that in the UK. We need another sport. We just need one more sport. Just one more sport. Anything. All we have is rugby, cricket and football. Yeah, pretty much. What sport do you want to see in the UK?

- I swear to God in America, there's like a new sport being invented every single day. Like I hear people like- - 'Cause they wanna be the best at it. - Yeah, they wanna be like, we invented that and we're the best at it. - You talking about like pickleball? - Yeah, I'm talking about pickleball. - Pickleball, bro. - What the fuck? I was like- - Bro, it's so serious. People play it a lot. - I wake up one day and then every American is talking about pickleball. - I know. - I'm like, what the fuck is pickleball? - The first time I saw footage of it, I thought it was like a meme. - Yeah, yeah, same here. - Well, I think it became- - 'Cause it's called pickleball. - Yeah, it's called fucking pickleball. - It's a terrible name.

- It's a terrible name. - I think because it's like tennis is very expensive to like run. - Or to run, right? - To have a tennis court is very difficult, but pickleball is like, you can run it in like half the size. And you also don't need to like- - Could I not think of a better name? Have we just gone through- - What? - What's it called? - Pickleball. - Have we just gone through all the good names now? - Alex, look up why pickleball is called pickleball.

- 'Cause there's nothing fucking pickle about it. - Anyway, ghost in the shell, swag. - Swag. - Ghost in the shell. - That was probably one of my most sexual awakening, the opening scene. - Oh, the opening scene of that one? - Yeah, I was like, "Yo!" - I just remember whenever I would see, if I ever saw nudity, I just think I was just thought like, "Huh." I never really thought much of it.

- He was an alpha male before alpha males were. - No, no, no. I was an alpha male. If anything that's like un-alpha male. I wasn't like focused on breeding from like. - I was like, I must breed. - I had no, I was just kind of like, all right, cool. Like when is the killing shot happening? - Do you remember when the first time you saw tits on screen? - Yeah. - I'm trying to remember. - Yeah, it was that fucking horrendous scene in Ninja Scroll. - I. - How old were you? - I was like nine.

- My dad was watching it in the living room and I'm like, "Ooh, I like anime." And then I saw that scene where that woman's tits get ripped off and I'm just like, "Okay." - Okay. - What the shit? - Ninja scroll. - What the fuck? - The one below Ghost in the Shell. - That's how I was old. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - I watched, what is that one movie? The one where that woman crosses her legs, that very famous scene. - Oh. - Something instinct. - Basic instinct. - Doesn't she have like, 'cause she's like a cyborg in that, right? Or something.

- A cyborg? - I have not watched this film. - Yeah, clearly. - Yeah, I actually remember that. That was an awakening. - I think a lot of kids had that. That was an adult awakening as well. - Some kind of movie where like the woman was like either not a robot or like robotic and her boobs are just out constantly.

And I remember, I think I was on a, we were somewhere in a foreign country. Yeah. And my mom had gone to bed and then I was watching the movie with my dad and my dad was like,

don't say anything to your mom. And then I just didn't understand why titties were that. But I remember I was like, I like it. - That's pretty right. - All right. - I like it. But I think that's a universal love. - Yeah. - All parts of life. - Yeah. - Everyone loves titties. - That's true. - Everyone loves titties. - I think even girls love titties. - Girls love titties. - Like straight girls. - Everyone loves titties. - Like who doesn't love titties?

- Yeah, like it's interesting how that works, right? Like guys aren't like that with a pair of knots, you know? - No, no. - They're like nuts. But girls, but with a pair of tits, girls are like, yo, that's pretty sick. - It's just like free fun bags that you just have on you, right? - That's what I think of my balls. - I wouldn't need, look, look. - Free fun bags. - I'm just saying if I had tits, I would not need fidget toys. - Okay, all right, okay, Garnt. You would not, okay. There's not an alternative universe where Garnt is just playing with his nipples all the time.

Going back, staying on track. Staying on track. Titties. Which one of these has titties? What is Magic Knight Rayearth? What is that? Magic Knight Rayearth. Oh, fuck.

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Light novels. That's got adapted. It was just called a novel back then, surely, right? No, it was called a light novel back then. Was it a light novel back then? Yeah. Was Boogie Pop Phantom a novel? Boogie Pop Phantom was also a light novel. I also didn't know that Dragon Quest had an anime adaptation. Yes, that was originally shown in Jumpmonger, actually. Oh. Yeah. Was all the art done by Toriyama as well? No. No, this is a different artist. Completely. Because he did the Dragon Quest.

Yes, he did the Dragon Quest art for the game, but this was done by a completely different artist. But it's huge. It was one of the reasons why Dragon Quest was so big in the 90s.

is because the success of the game birthed the manga and then that in turn brought the game to new audiences. - This is back in the day whenever you'd like watch an anime and then you go and play the game, you're like, why does Pokemon look like ass? Why does it not look like the anime? - Like Pikachu's on some fucking Adderall or something. - And then now it just still looks worse than the anime. - Yeah, I mean, to be fair, the Pokemon anime, have you seen the recent Pokemon anime?

- Yeah, it looks good. - The animation's fucking insane. - But I feel like even the initial first round of Pokemon anime still looks better than the games. - Oh, well, yeah. I mean, you know, it's apples and oranges. It's hard to compare. - Nah, nah, nah. - I mean, you can say the same thing about fucking Dragon Quest as well. First couple of Dragon Quest don't look that great. They play great, but the manga looks better. - I'm saying like this side to side, you put this show with modern day Dragon Quest, which one looks better?

- But I guess this is like a preference. - Yeah, it's a preferential thing. - Yeah, it's true, it's true. - I mean, I like the art style of- - I'm being a graphics gamer now. I'm saying like, why is there not five million pixels on the nose? - Well, I think there's an argument to be made. - My point was that Pokemon just looks bad. - The games you mean? - Yeah. - Yeah, but when was the last game you played? - What was the one on the Switch, the first one?

- Yeah, I played that. - Yeah, but Sword and Shield looked like ass. - Yeah, but the new one also didn't look great. - No, it doesn't. - They've been fucking it up since '90. - Black and White though looked good. - I love Black and White. - Black and White 2. - Black and White 2 were like, when they were like, all right, they're actually kind of cooking with this. - Yeah, I love the sprite work. - I don't think,

anime looks better in this day and age you know i think i think there's some you know argument that you're gonna disrespect crown i think there's some arguments that you can be made to be like okay og ghibli akira that still looks better than so many anime films yeah coming out nowadays do you know what i do think looks better back in the day what hentai

- Yes. - I think- - Except how they, I cannot get over the color they draw dicks. - Yeah. - And the dicks look so weird. - It's like- - I kinda like when they censored it. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Uncensored '90s hentai dick just looks weird. - And also, I,

- The more, I don't know, the more I watch hentai, the more I just don't need to see inside the badge. I don't need the x-ray. - Well, that's like a modern hentai thing as well, you know? The less and less I enjoy x-ray time. - I kind of like the blurring that covers it up. I'm like, good. I don't want to see like- - It's like, oh, I get it now. - Yeah, I don't want to see the fear and hunger dungeon mid-portal.

I don't wanna see that. - It's like insane. Like sometimes the dark beast approaches. - Yeah, literally, dude. It's like spot the difference. - Yeah. It's like sometimes you see like really, really old hentai from the 90s or something. - It looks so good. - And it's just like, how the fuck did you have hentai sakuga back in the day? And then they'd like put this like really cool action scene in that. - Yeah. - Well, hentai was like a series back then. - Yeah, yeah, yeah.

make so much like lore. Yeah. And then like the 2000s hit and then the quality of hentai just like went fucking fell off my heart. Yeah, it's because they started adapting from erogaze, that's why. And like 99% of erogaze, they don't give a fuck about the story. And it's still shit. It's still shit. This year of hentai has been the worst hentai I have watched in so long. Deadass, I'm gonna be real with you. I don't think I've watched hentai this year.

- You've not missed out. - 'Cause every time I go to check, I'm like, nothing appeals to me. - I check just to maybe see if they've made a banger. We haven't had shit. - Really? - Yeah. I'm just saying they don't make hentai like they used to baby. - It's all NTR and it's all garbage. - I remember back during the golden days, man. - Yeah. - I remember when hentai had plots and animation. - Hentai is getting to be like unviewable. - Yeah. - Yeah. - It's so bad now. - Looks like you're gonna have to go to doujin soon. - Fuck.

Alright, moving on. It's gonna be interesting to see what the climate is like post-Ever. We're about to reach peak anime. This is pretty much like peak modern anime. Is this considered modern? I mean, if you ask Gen Z kids today, they'll call these retro. Well, I feel like this is when anime like fucking kicked in the gear. Oh, they were cooking with this. And they were like, now it's time to make global money. Look at all these. Look at all these goaded shows. Yeah.

God damn. Alex definitely puts SEL there just to make me happy. Because otherwise, ain't no one talking about it. Yeah, I mean, let's have a look at these. We have Rurikenshin, Shrygon. Was one piece that popular this time?

Well, it started in 96. Yeah. I mean, was it, I don't, was it like, it wasn't as popular at this point? I feel like it, did it take off right away? It got big pretty quickly. Yeah. I mean, One Piece, because I think One Piece would have had a lot of hype coming into it because I remember reading Rurouni Kenshin and there was like,

there was this one piece Easter egg in Rurouni Kenshin because Oda started off as an assistant in Rurouni Kenshin. So he shot off to do his own series called One Piece and got his farewell from that. And Rurouni Kenshin back in the day was a fucking massive manga.

as well yeah although nowadays it feels bittersweet to call yourself a ronin kenshin fan but um you know back in the day i i thoroughly enjoyed ronin yeah and a lot of people did in japan it was huge dragon interesting that is up there because i don't know how popular it was in japan

I feel this is one of those shows like, because there are a few shows like this, you know, same with like Cowboy Bebop. Like people in Japan knew about it, but I'd say the ratio of people outside of Japan knowing about it is definitely higher. And I feel the same thing with Trigon. Yeah. What I don't understand in Japan, right, is that the way they air anime is so like hard to watch. What do you mean? Because it airs so late. Oh, yeah. And like-

- It's so hard to know what's gonna air. - It's 'cause there's no other available time slots. - Right, but isn't that crazy that there's still such a fandom for it? And were they just relying on DVDs and VHS's and- - No, they were fucking recording straight from the TV. - Oh my God. - Yeah, so that they could like watch it the next day. Or if you were really dedicated, you'd stay up to like two, three in the morning to like watch these episodes. - Yeah, I mean, you didn't really have the internet back then. So if you found a show you liked,

you needed to lock in to be like, okay. - You were like, okay, 2:00 AM every Thursday, I have to fucking clock that in. - Yeah, yeah, exactly. And obviously, anime has become this like global medium accepted by a lot of people. Obviously anime was popular in Japan back in the day, but I've heard that there was some kind of stigma

against a lot of anime shows, especially if it wasn't like something like One Piece. - Oh yeah. - Something like that because- - Oh, I mean, just because there was a stigma on like being an anime fan. - Or an otaku. - An otaku especially, you know, in the 90s especially, like it was seen as like the not cool thing. It was like the least cool thing you can be. - Yeah. - And now,

Same as with the West, it's like cool to watch anime now. Yeah. So how the tides have changed. Yu-Gi-Oh! that I remember in Japan was fucking like huge. And this is like even before the card game really like blew up. Because like...

I don't know. You look at, you look like imagine being a kid in the nineties and seeing that hairstyle for the first time. - Yeah, that kind of, that hairstyle kind of like took over everything the anime was. - Oh yeah. - The anime became about like crazy big hair. - I mean, I feel Yu-Gi-Oh started the whole meme of like spot the main character. - Yeah. - I mean, Yu-Gi-Oh has like ruined, not ruined, but has dictated

card game character designs to this day oh yeah you know sometimes even in like the modern day you see an anime character design and you're like oh he's from a card game anime yeah you know and it's it's it's i don't know why they all have like the same kind of character designs where it's just like yeah let's just give them like the weirdest fucking hairstyles of all time what a bitch your hairstyle to anime to this day i look at that hairstyle i'm like how do you wake up

How do you set that? It makes no sense. Also, there's that great meme back in like the 2chan days in Japan where it's like, there's an episode where like they're dueling on a boat or something. Yeah. And Yugi falls off. No, no. There's that one too. But in the OG Yu-Gi-Oh anime, there's a scene where he...

Yugi and someone is dueling on a boat and the loser like falls into the ocean. Yeah. Essentially. And I think Yugi was the one who fell into the ocean and he somehow makes it back onto the shore. And the whole meme was like, how did he fall into the ocean? And his hair is still perfect. It's like, how hard is that gel? Yeah. And, uh, I watched, uh, the cowboy bebop opening back in the day. Uh, you know, uh,

On the same video you did, Joey. And I did not realize just how different it was from everything else coming out at that time. It was such a breath of fresh air. Yeah. It just made me realize, holy shit, this came out the same year as Trigun. And I love Trigun. Trigun's fantastic. But from an aesthetic point of view, Cowboy Bebop was so ahead of its time. But even Trigun was kind of as well. Do you remember the Trigun opening? Yeah. No, no, no, no.

Yeah, there's like no lyrics. Yeah. Which was like unheard of back in the day. Yeah. Like every anime opening was like something you could sing along to and Trigon and Cowboy Bebop were like, nah, let's just do an instrumental. Fuck it. And obviously Hajime no Ippo, my favorite sports anime of all time. Yeah. I never watched Hajime no Ippo. You should. You would love it.

- I mean, it's just- - I love the art style of Hajime no Ippo. It looks so cool. - Yeah, it's really cool. - It's not just the arts. It's just like, if you just want pure cocaine as an anime, you watch Hajime no Ippo 'cause you see some of these fights and then you just come out like, you're like,

- I need to like- - I need to stop boxing. - I need to get rid of this adrenaline. - That's me whenever I see a Baki clip on Twitter. - Well, yeah, you're a Baki fan, so you definitely love Hajime. - I love Baki. - And then there's your favorite guy, Love Hina. - Love Hina. - Oh my gosh. - Akasaka was fucking cooking with this one. Oh, Akamatsu, sorry. - Akamatsu, Ken Akamatsu, yeah. - Yeah, Akamatsu, Ken. - It's fucking weird to see him in office now.

The dude who made Love Hina is a fucking politician. Yeah, I forgot about that. He's a politician now. Least strange Japanese politician. Yeah, right. Do you remember Negima? Yeah, I do remember Negima. Negima, that's my favorite food. No, no. There was a manga that Akamatsu made after Love Hina called Negima, which was, now that I think about it, fucking weird concept. It is a weird concept, but I feel like part of it was him just, because I heard that the,

he worked for, he wanted to make a shonen manga. But they were like, no, you should make another Love Hina. You should go make another Love Hina. Which is funny because Negima ended up becoming a battle shonen. But it started off as a full on rom-com ecchi. Yeah, you're like, all right, you want a harem? How about fucking 30 girls in the harem? 30 girls and you have magical power so strong that even if you just sneeze, all of the skirts get uplifted. That was a...

That was a continuous gap. I will say it's weird to look back at Lufina now and think that Ken Akamatsu had this reputation of being like the king of panty shots. Oh, yeah. This is the start. What a title, by the way. What a title. Men when they wake up and decide their career. But it's insane to think.

- I think looking back on Love Hina, just how tame the fan service was back in the day. - I'm like, these girls aren't even wearing a thong. It's like, it covers the whole ass and boys back then were like, oh shit. - And now we have like borderline hentai airing on like anime. - Not even borderline, it's just like straight up. - Yeah, we're just straight up hentai.

And I remember back in the day, I was like, oh my God, nothing's going to get raunchier than Love Hina. Ain't no way. Yeah. And then 20 years later, we got Ishizaka Reviewers. Yeah. All right. I guess this is anime now. Sure. What a cool era for anime though. Yeah. Yeah. Very cool. This and I feel the next five years is definitely like Golem era. You know how your dad talks about Ninja Scroll? This is like this era for me. Yeah. Where you're just like, ah, I remember growing up on Trigon. Sure. Cowboy Bebop. True.

- Yeah, let's go to the next one. - All right. - 'Cause I was sitting in this cigar bar with Sydney and they were playing like the Cowboy Bebop OST. Holy shit, it was such a vibe, man. - Oh, it's fucking amazing. - It made me wanna rewatch Cowboy Bebop so much. - Yoko Kanna did not have to cook that hard. - Yeah. - All right, 2001 to 2005. - Oh my Lord. - Oh yeah, this is, now this era. This is the banger era.

So you got, I think the last year was better. Yeah. You reckon? Yeah. I mean, maybe it's this selection, but I mean, even with this selection, I'm like, man, how'd you come back from a, I mean, obviously we had Naruto in this era monster, which obviously came out in this era, but I don't think it's something that defines this era. Um,

- Why'd you put Elfen Lied on there? - I mean, that did define this era. It is iconic. Maybe not for like the right reasons. - God, Elfen Lied. - Yeah, I mean- - Boogie Pop was huge, Shaman King was huge. - I never watched Boogie Pop, Shaman King or FLCL. - Oh my God, those are like three of my favorites on this list. Boogie Pop, I think is one of the best light novels ever written. - What is it about? - Boogie Pop Phantom?

- I would say there's no funny name. - Fuck, how do you describe Boogie Pop Phantom? - It's like a supernatural mystery show. - Yeah. - Okay. Normally don't like those. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - And it's like kind of Pulp Fiction-y in the sense that it's the same story told from multiple angles happening at the same time. - Right, okay. - So Boogie Pop Phantom was the one that directly inspired Nishio Ishin to start writing. So the creator of the "Modern Guitar Series." He called the author of Boogie Pop Phantom a genius. - Yeah.

And actually a lot of light novels, especially during the mid 2000s were directly inspired from the author of Boogie Pop Man. - That's cool. - 'Cause he basically defined the light novel genre. - I mean, looking at this era, this reminds me of like, especially now looking back, you know when like a new game console launches and like the first two, three years are always just game developers figuring out how to like make good games on that game console.

- A tech demo? - Yeah, yeah. This is what I feel like for this era, where this is the era where anime started moving over to digital animation. And it's just like, I would say we got the peak, we got some of the peaks of traditional hand-drawn animation in the previous era. And now we go into this era and I'm just like, "Oh yeah, this was...

- No, but this era, I'm looking at this list and this is still on the cusp of like 99.9% 2D still. - Yeah. - No, no, no, no, no. Like not 2D, it's digital versus like paper. - Oh, I see, I see, I see. - 'Cause I think "Cowboy Bebop" was like one of the very first digitally animated shows. - Yeah. - And that looked,

Better than 90% of everything I see here. What's the 10%? Samurai Champloo? Samurai Champloo and FLCL pretty much. It feels like it's a modern show. Wait, wasn't Samurai Champloo in the 90s?

- No. - No. - No. - Is it not? - It's 2004, I'm pretty sure. - Was it? - Even then to me, Samurai Champloo feels like a 2010 show. - Yeah, exactly. - It feels like way ahead of its time. - It still looks incredible. - Did Samurai Champloo start the whole samurai and hip hop kind of like marriage? - Yes.

- That's insane to think about. - It single handedly brought lo-fi to the West. - That's insane to think about. - Or Nujabes was, yeah. - 'Cause sometimes you just see this

of like two things that on paper shouldn't seem like it works. Like, I don't know why Eurobeat works so well with like street racing. - Well, it's the same thing with like Cowboy Bebop, right? Like no one looked at this like sci-fi Western show and was like, let's put a really jazzy soundtrack on it. It's like, that doesn't sound like it works, but it did. - Yeah.

- What a fucking genius man. - Hamtaro, I never watched Hamtaro. - I fucking loved Hamtaro growing up. - Is it like a comedy? What is it? - It's a kid's show. - Oh, okay. - Yeah, it's a kid's show about just these hamsters who go on an adventure. - Right. - It's still big in Japan.

Very cute. - Wait, so this is the first year that Fullmetal Alchemist, the first one came out. When did the second one come out? The Brotherhood. - 2007. - Isn't that crazy to think that they remade a show that quickly after? - Yeah. - Like if that happened now, we'd be like, wow, Disney really remaking that movie already? But like we look back at that as like, wow, they really fucking did a W on this one. I guess if the remake is good, people are like, it's fine. - Yeah, I mean, this was the era where

instead of just ending it where the source material was up to. - Yeah, you would just make shit up. - You would just make your own like your own anime original show. - Or you would just end. - Yeah. - And never do it again. - Yeah. And I think on this list, from what I've heard, the original FMA had a decent ending for, you know, maybe not as good as Brotherhood, but I heard it was a decent ending. - Definitely a lot darker, if I remember correctly. - I don't remember it at all.

Yeah, because it got into like World War II and shit, which I was like, wow. Damn. And then the Brotherhood didn't have any of that. Well, maybe they did, but very different. Which one? Was it closer to the manga? Because I never read the manga. So the Brotherhood was following the manga. Brotherhood followed the manga. That's the reason it got remake. Yeah.

because it was only like halfway. How the fuck do I know this? - Yeah. - So it's like a fruit sparser situation. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I think because FMA was just such a massive hit, they were like, all right, we need to do this again. The fans are asking for it. - Again, again. - Round two, baby. - Yeah. What's not here though is the end of Ava where I'm pretty sure he made that,

- Because people wanted a fucking ending to Eva. - Yeah, yeah. They were like, "I don't want five episodes of sketches. Give me a fucking real ending." And he's like, "All right, fine. Let me give you the most traumatic ending in the entire canon." - I think I am glad that we've stopped the anime original ending trend.

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What do you mean? Don't they have like, isn't it like Aliens or some shit? Trigon? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I mean, it's a spoiler for a 25, 30-year-old anime. Yeah, I just remember watching it and being really confused why Aliens showed up. Yeah, I mean, it was a sci-fi. It was like a... I mean, the new Trigon, very much... It's in space, right? Yeah, that leaned into it. It leans way more into the sci-fi. That leaned into it immediately. Again, I haven't watched Trigon in like 15 years. Yeah. It's been a long time.

Prince of Tennis. I never watched that, but I know you love it. Prince. I fucking love Prince of Tennis. I know you love Prince of Tennis. It's fucking like, if you love shows like Jojo, you would love it because it's just, it's literally the most ridiculous fucking sports show. If you can make tennis cool. It's so cool. Excuse me, tennis is cool. Tennis is the least cool sport of all time. It's fucking cool, man. It is not. Come on. Bro, it's- Come on. Tennis is not a cool sport. As someone who played it for 10 years, it's boring as shit to watch.

- No, it's not. Oh my, are you serious? - I think it's boring to watch. - Motherfucker, I'd take any tennis game over like cricket, baseball, all that shit. - Nah. - I'd take cricket and baseball over tennis. - No fucking way. - What the fuck? Cricket is way more hard. - Yeah. - Tennis is such a beautiful art form, man.

- Fucking hell, man. - You were busy watching real tennis. I was watching Prince of Tennis. - Real tennis is so much better, man. - I was getting sucked into the Tezuka zone. - Bro, you watch one fucking Federer game and you're like, "Oh, fucking Tezuka who?" - Federer, Schmetterer, whatever, bro. - Oh, shut the fuck up. - Who cares? - All right, let's go to the next era. Let's have a look at what's in the next era. Our producer also said that some of these from this point onwards were not exactly when they were from, but when they were popular.

All right, 2006 to 2010, I would say is getting close to, if not in like the most modern golden age of anime. Yeah, this is like all of my favorite shows. Yeah, yeah. Every single one of these. I mean, this is the era of Death Note and Code Geass, which is insane that they aired in the same year, along with Gurren Lagann as well. Full Mark, My Brotherhood. That is crazy they jumped right on that remake. That is an insane amount of like...

Gapped. It fucking paid off. It did. Isn't that nuts? I feel like if you did that nowadays with literally anything, everyone would make fun of them. Yeah. Relentlessly. Yeah. But then they would watch and they'd be like, hold up, they're cooking. Maybe. I don't even know. I feel like this is one of the insane things. I just thought about that now. I was like, why doesn't no one ever question that they re-released the show so quickly after?

God, 2007 was such a goated year for anime. Oh, it was so good. We got Gurren Lagann, Death Note, Code Geass, and Baccano in the same year. I think Welcome to the NHK was also 2007, right? I think that was 2006. Was it? Yeah. Fuck. Dee Grayman, Ouran High School Host Club, Toradora. You know what? I don't miss Ouran High School Host Club. I will just say that. I like Ouran. It's fun. It's a fun show. I don't know, man. I just couldn't get it.

- It's fun. - Also the fan base was just the worst. - You are tainted by the anime con like culture. - Yes. - Yes you are. - Yes. Is that not a valid reason? - No. - I've seen some horrendous shit come out of this fan base.

- Basically Joey, just don't go on Tumblr and this would have been- - I couldn't help it bro. This and fucking Hetalia. - Yeah. - Like scarred me for life from this kind of fan base. - This also is, Orinatsu Host Club is probably the number one piece of effective propaganda in the world. - Oh my God, yes. - In terms of making host clubs look like these amazing like things instead of the like kind of rancid, like abusive,

like they actually are like post clubs are so much more gross in real life yeah i mean i've never been to one so i wouldn't know but been to two i mean yeah you worked in film two yeah uh yeah oh god i still remember bacano man what if i can like what an amazing show still still a great show what's bottom middle i can't read that dark in the black dark dark in the black

- "Dark on Black", love that show. - That was a great show. - One of the coolest concepts. - So fucking cool. - Yeah, it's weird because I don't know. - I like the, obviously some of the shows have done it, but I really liked that they leaned so heavily into the like, you had to have like some,

Something to Something to Like some Price to pay Some price to pay Which I thought was Such a cool idea And I feel like Although yeah Like other shows Have done it But this one did it so well Yeah that's swag You know

- Yeah. - It is swag. - This is one of the blackest swag. - November 13 or 11, he had to smoke. - Yeah, he had to smoke. - Yeah. - I just love, that burned into my mind. I don't even know what the main character's like drawback was. - I don't think he had one. - He didn't have one. - Yeah, because he got his powers in a strange way. - Of course.

- I remember the- - The cat that talked. - Sorry? - The cat that talked. - Yeah. - The cat that talked, yeah. - And then the English one, he sounded like, "No, but yo, he's your mission boy." You should know. And he sounded like British. I don't know, it was weird. - Just remember that guy who had to stack the stones exactly in a square or something?

That just had so many cool concepts in this one. Yeah. Because, yeah, if your power is so godlike, but it's so annoying to do, it's like, wow. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly. Such a good way to balance powers. And also, like, Yoko Kanno killed it with the music. Yeah.

As she always does. Protect the queen. Do you remember Soul Eater? I do. I remember how, at least in the Western world, it was very hyped. Soul Eater? No, in Japan. It was huge. It was a show that nobody really talks about anymore, but everyone remembers fondly. Because it was kind of mid.

I would say it was a product of its time. I would agree. I would say at the time it was amazing. It was funny because when Fire Force came out, which is done by the same author, I watched it and I was so disappointed in it that it made me go back and re-watch solely to confirm to myself if this was actually just mead.

I'm like, is this better in my head or like, is it still good? And it was, it's definitely better in my head. Okay. Okay. Like I, I feel I was at the right age and this was during the right period where a show like Solita just worked. Yeah. But if you made a, if you made an exact remake of it today, I don't think it would work. It was a straight to the point shonen with fun characters. Yeah. Yeah. That for the time was great. Yeah.

but it definitely just hasn't aged. - It is very much a product of its time. And Fire Force is very much a product at the same time. - I don't know what fucking time Fire Force is a product of. - Yeah, it was probably the same time that came out 10 years later. - It was time to stop. - Oh my God. - But we also got Spice and Wolf as well. This is around the time that, there's one show that I'm very, very, very, very surprised that is not up here.

I'm not going to call you out, Alex. But how the fuck is Haruhi not here? I was about to say. Haruhi Suzumiya. Haruhi literally shaped this era. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Haruhi... I feel like Haruhi put anime on a train track of which it cannot get off. The Haruhi craze during this period in Japan was like,

It was like Beatlemania. It was fucking crazy. - 'Cause I feel like anime after Haruhi, it just follows Haruhi. - Yeah. - Oh yeah. - It sort of diverges to becoming Haruhi. - Yeah, totally. - It's like a weird way. - I mean, Haruhi wasn't exactly the first of like anything. It wasn't like the first light novel adaptation. It wasn't the first high school anime. - It was the best. - But it was just,

She was just such a force of nature that you can see the effect of like the kinds of shows that got adapted before Harry came out and the type of shows that got adapted after Harry came out. You know, it even makes me wonder if something like Monogatari would have, you know, gotten an adaptation if not for

setting the precedence of like, okay, let's get a quirky light novel adaptation. Let's see how well this does. - Well, I feel a lot of these shows, and I'm sure a lot of the shows on the next slide, yeah, wouldn't be around if it wasn't for "Haruki." - I have a question about "Afro Samurai." - Yeah. - Is it a good show? I've never watched it. - It is a good show. - I just know that the dub is Samuel Jackson. - Yeah, it's a good show. I enjoyed it.

It does everything you need to. - It's nothing to write home about, but it's a fun show. - Got it, got it. - Yeah. - Yeah. "Toradora", I tried rewatching "Toradora" the other day actually. - It was tough. - It was tough. - Yeah. - Holy shit. I forgot. - It's long.

26 episodes? It's long. Like, I know tsundere's have like slowly been phased out, but I forgot how hard they went with like Tiger's character. Oh yeah. She's such a little shit. I mean, I had trouble with it when it was airing. I don't know how I would react to it today. Yeah, I'm like... If the tsundere lover is saying this shit... Yeah.

- That's saying a lot. - It's like me and Sydney were watching this. I remember like watching the first few episodes, re-watching the first few episodes. I was like,

- She's kind of a bitch. - Yeah. - She's a total asshole. - She kind of just is really like really violent and not in an anime way, but just- - I'm like Ryuji, what are you doing? - I'm like, holy shit. She goes in hard. - Yeah. - How are we getting away with this? - It's like full on punches to the face. It's like actual like violence. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. Actual domestic violence. - Yeah. - I am waiting for the Twitter apology to come out at any time right now. But-

- Yeah. - TW domestic fans. - Oh my God. What a cool era there. - Yeah, this is a goaded era, man. - This is a goaded era. - Black Lagoon is well far. - Following on to another goaded era because 2011, like 2007 and 2011 were two years in anime that I think were just like some of the greatest years of anime we've ever had. Imagine being in 2011.

I mean, I don't have to imagine I was there. - You were there and you think, damn, we got Hunter Hunter, Steins;Gate, Fate/Zero, Madoka Magica all in one fucking year. - And you thought to yourself, can we get much higher? - Yeah, you thought to yourself, can we get much higher? And then what came next? Sword Art Online, baby. - Oh, God. - And Black Butler. - I mean, there's a couple on here where I'm like,

I'm questioning, but... And Black Butler? Guys? Black Butler? Yeah. What the fuck? Fairytale is aight. Mirai Nikki is aight. What the heck?

Hey man, Mira Nikki shaped a whole generation- ruined a whole generation of boys. Oh, 100%. Fucking Yunogasa poisoned the well, man. We had respectable women before then and then everyone's like, "Oh, I want a quirky girl that can kill me." That can kill someone. "Oh, ha ha ha ha." It's like, "Shut up." "Just shut up. Please."

interact with a real woman. - Wonder who the first Yandere was. 'Cause I know Yuno Gasai popularized it. - Before Yuno Gasai, there was Kaede from Shuffle. - Oh. - You remember? The orange haired girl. - Yeah, I remember. - Is she like the Yandere? - She was the Yandere at the time. - Oh, okay. - And then also every female from Higurashi as well. - Yeah. - That was the previous era. That was like 2006, 2007. - We just kind of decided

What happened in... Was it the 2008 financial crisis that made it more like to have women that would kill us? What happened to dudes? I don't know. What happened? I don't know. Yeah, dudes saw like, you know...

- Was it "Yuno Gasai"? Yeah. - Like it's like, yeah. 'Cause a lot of these shows are like depression. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. She started the "I can fix her" trend by herself. And boys were never the same since. - Some of these shows feel so old, but some of these feels somewhat like, like "Deadman Wonderland" doesn't feel like it's from the same age as "Psycho-Pass".

That's true. Deadman Wonderland feels like a 2000 show. I mean, the ending was absolutely garbage for Deadman Wonderland. Well, the anime never got one. It kind of just ended. Even the manga, the ending was kind of... Yeah, it was. I mean, I kind of shat Deadman Wonderland. I never got to see at least it play out. Yeah. Because it was kind of fun, but the anime kind of just ended, which sucked. God, Blue Exorcist. I remember...

Everyone was kind of talking about that at one point and then all of a sudden no one talked about it. Wasn't it wildly popular in Japan as well? Very popular in Japan. I'm wondering how popular the remakes were because... Not very. I don't think it was. Yeah, because I remember watching Blue Exorcist and...

And it was just, you know, I enjoyed it as like a shonen action show. Not anything different. I mean, I would say it's actually worse than Soul Eater back in the day, which I enjoyed a lot more. Is that your nostalgia talking? What? Is that your nostalgia talking? I mean, I watched both at the same era and I was just like, Blue Exorcist, yes I, I'm probably going to forget it. And I did.

- I mean, that's kind of the same with everyone with Blue Exorcist. No one really talks about it. - No one remembers what happens in Blue Exorcist. - I don't know. Is it the next Exorcist then he turns blue? - I watched every episode of the show, I don't know what the fuck happened. - The only thing is I remember were the openings 'cause they were fire. - Yeah, the first one is so good. - Yeah, that's okay. - I don't even remember that. - It was the "Uverworld" opening. - Oh. - I remember "Uverworld" was the king. - Oh yeah, yeah. - Every opening was "Uverworld." - Yeah. - Actually, I think I was singing the bleach opening.

- Yeah. - What the fuck is that? - Yeah. - I swear I had it. - No, I can't be easy. - Okay, now I got a plan. - No, I will remember it if you played like two seconds. - Okay, well fine. - The Bleach, the Bleach Eve world opening goes. - I don't think that's Bleach. - That's not Bleach? - That's not Bleach. - This one. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Yeah.

I remember trying to do that Osu! track for ages. I couldn't do it. The Evil World one from Bleachers, wasn't it like... Yeah, that's it. Dude, this era and the previous era, I will say, peak for anime openings.

- Well, I mean. - Well, well. Is that nostalgia talking Joey? Is that nostalgia talking? - In terms of actual quality of the music. - I think it's nostalgia. You know, we're gonna be in 10 years and people are gonna be like, yo, the Jujutsu Kaisen opening, iconic. That's where anime is peaked. - No, okay, no granted, Jujutsu Kaisen first opening at least is fucking great. - You're gonna be like, "Idol, that's like peak anime." - No, I never enjoyed that opening. - I think that's a crap opening. - "Idol" was a great opening, man.

- It's a good opening. - It's kind of good. - Same with fucking "Bling Bong Bong." - It's a good opening. - It's such an annoying song. - Like it's yes, it's really popular, but holy shit, it is a good opening. - It could be popular and a good joke. - Yeah. - No. - Yes. - What? - Joey! - Things that are popular can't be good. - Yeah, this era, a lot of the openings were fucking popular and they were good. - So with "Mandoka Magica," right? - Yeah.

I remember I watched it and then it was like a movie, right? Yeah. What the fuck happened in that show? Because I remember like I watched it and I was confused. Wait, the movies? No, no, everything. Oh, I never watched the movies. The show wasn't confusing. What are they doing in the show again? They kill witches. Yeah.

That's right, but doesn't it get really weird at one point? They go to school and then I was like... Well, they are in school. And then they kill God? That's the movie. They kill God? Okay, they kill God in the movie. But it gets mad existential by the end. Yeah, I think the movie made me confused with the entire... I think I misunderstood what everything was about. Yeah, yeah. Did the movie make sense unless you watched the series? I watched the series and the movies. You had to watch the series. I watched the movies and the series. Yeah. In the correct order.

- So the series, like it's the ending of the series wasn't like the easiest to understand. It wasn't like a standard anime thing, but it was still relatively easy. - 'Cause Madoka becomes like a goddess or something. - Yeah, Madoka becomes a god, resets the world if I remember correctly. - Yes, that's right. - To a world without witches. - Oh, okay. - All right. - And that's- - And now she's unemployed? - And now she's...

yeah I guess oh shit and then the movie picks up from that because she's in school yeah yeah I remember because she was like I remember I was really confused like why is she not like killing witches maybe maybe it's just did you watch the series the movie back to back yes

- Okay, then I don't know. - No, I didn't. - I was gonna be, then at that point it's just a skill issue. - Yeah, you know what? - Can't help you there, bro. - Also this whole era put me off anime movies.

Cause the anime movie would always be shit. - No, wait, is this during the time where you fucking watched the Haruhi movie? - Yes, okay. - And not watched Haruhi? - Yes, that did happen. But after that- - That still makes me maul. - After that, well, okay. You have to blame my anime list for being very confusing. - Oh yeah. - Okay. - They did not lay it out. - Disappearance was always

the highest yes and they did not fucking explain what it was I just watched it because I thought it was good that's fair okay so what I was saying is that this is the era when a lot of anime movies came out that I just found like especially when they were supplementary to the series they were just very weird and confusing it's probably because most of them were shown in anime movies right which to me are the lowest form of media

I'm joking. Kind of, yeah. Because they are just high budget filler. Yes, yes. I mean, I love One Piece, but like 90% of the One Piece movies are so forgettable. Yeah, all of these, all of these like that too, like all of the stuff combined made me just see anime movies as like inferior to the anime TV. Right.

I mean it wasn't until money making machines it wasn't until Demon Slayer just revolutionized the movie industry that people that the industry started thinking oh wait do people actually want the movies to have consequences you know wait they want it to be canon yeah yeah yeah exactly you can do it anyway just split it up into a TV show if you want and throw that out yeah yeah I feel like yeah because they just found an infinite money hack with the movies that's what I do in my live stream

- I also think that that kind of like approach wouldn't have worked too far back in the past because I feel like

the reason people are able to get away with this now is because of the internet. You talk about like Marvel movies, like having a one continuous storyline, we have to like catch up to like every movie beforehand. I think that would have not been possible before the year of the internet. So, made sense for it now, didn't necessarily make sense for it back then.

But yeah, a lot of shows here. I can't believe Kill la Kill is in this era. Well, this also felt like the era where anime started getting really popular in the Western world. Oh, yeah, yeah.

- Oh yeah. - Yeah. - This is roughly around where like the whole, I'd say the entirety of the 2010s, we saw such a massive boost. - Yeah, because I'm assuming it's gonna come up in the next slide, but 2013 also was the year of Attack on Titan. - Yes. - And I think it's gonna come up in the next slide 'cause that's when Attack on Titan was super, super popular. But yeah, I mean, I remember we had, oh, do you know what else I remember aired this year?

That I think was pretty revolutionary. What? Free. Oh my God, yeah. Free? Free dominated. Yeah. Just Kyoto animation. Free was very popular. Free? I remember when Free released and so much of the animation in the anime community was just like, anime is ruined. Anime is ruined. Were they really? Yeah, yeah. Do you remember the meme, Trigger saved anime? Yeah.

- That came about because "Kill la Kill" airs the season after "Free" was airing. And it was just like the anime industry going, "Wait, girls like fan service as well? What? Nani? That works too?" - To be fair, I unironically watched "Free". - "Free" is good. - And it's good. - I think the reason why "Free" was so popular is 'cause it was like, it had a semi-decent story. - Yeah. - It wasn't just like, pretty boy does things. - Characters are likable. - Yeah.

The animation was great. - Oh dude, Kyoto Animation cooked. - It was amazing. - It was crazy. - Kyoto Animation never doesn't cook. - And then MAPPA made Yuri on Ice and just refused to ever do anything with it. They hated Yuri on Ice. Why don't they make any more? Is that gonna show up? That was a fucking huge show. - That was 20- - Yeah, yeah. I think that was the next- - All right, well let's go- - It's 2016 now. - Let's go next year. - Let's go next year. - God, I'm looking at these and I'm like, I can remember all the openings for all these shows.

We had free, right? Yeah. And then everyone was like, shit, maybe this like hot boys trend is over there. Euro nice. Here we go. Did he put free there? No. You didn't put free on the slides. What the fuck? It's all right. He made it at 3 a.m., guys. Come on. Come on. Free was game changing. Yeah. Um...

So Attack on Titan was this, this is definitely the era. This is like Charlie's list of anime. It's crazy. Cause like all of these shows, I remember when they came out and like them impacting the community for at least, you know, for the separate periods of time. Like, you know, when no game, no life came out. Yeah. Do you remember that shit? It was fucking epic.

Because finally it was an anime for gamers. Yeah. They'd finally learned that gamers like anime too. Yeah. But I would also say that this was the era where the anime community started branching off from each other. Before this, I would say there was a much more homogenous feel to the anime community. And this is about the time period where anime started to be like, oh, I only watched Attack on Titan. Oh,

- Or One Punch Man. - Yeah. - What the fuck is an origami? What the fuck is a haiku? - What the fuck is an origami? - Yeah. - Yeah, true. - Oh my Lord. - So. - All of these shows feel pretty iconic in their own right. - I still don't understand why Noragami was as popular as it was. Why was it that popular?

Tumblr in it. - Was it though? - I think it was a good, honestly, I swear I saw more of the blonde kid online than anything. He was so popular. - Oh, the side character. - I don't know why. - Really? - I feel like Tumblr just love a useless side character who they can turn into like their hero. Did you see that blonde guy everywhere or am I insane? - No, I saw Yato. - I saw Yato. - I feel like Yato was everywhere.

- Shit, this job. - That's what was endearing about him. - Yeah. - I didn't find that endearing. - He's like the klutz that also fucking pulls through when he locks in. - Yeah. - When his eyes start glowing blue, unless you know he's locking in. - Speaking of locking in, Terror and Resonance. They locked in into terrorism. And it worked. - And Yakuza kind of fucking locked in with the soundtrack. - Yeah, still, in my opinion, the best anime soundtrack of all time. - I've still never...

All my times, right? I go to Japanese bars and talk about whenever I bring up Terran Resonance, they never fucking heard of it. Oh no. Yeah. This is definitely... They who me? They're like, what is that? I mean, Terran Resonance even in the anime community is not that big. It's kind of like an underground gem. But I remember when it aired, everyone was talking about it. At least in Westerns.

- I mean, I think- - And then again, I decided what everyone was talking about based on what Gigguk said in his videos. - Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think everyone stopped talking about it just because a lot of people didn't like the ending. - Right. - Or like the second half of the series. I still really, really liked it. - Yeah, it was good. - And also it had the balls.

I don't know if you remember this. What? I don't. I do not remember anything. So I remember when it was airing. It might have been a happy coincidence. Might not be. They aired episode 11.

- On September 11th. - Yes, oh yes. - That's when like a building blows up, right? - And I was like, what the fuck? What is this coincidence right now? - That's funny. - Yikes. - Also we have Tokyo Ghoul as well with-

- Just that bottom row. That bottom trifecta there. - I can't make a kill. And we've shown this so many times how popular it was. It was so popular. - So popular, but my God. - 'Cause it was so good. - Don't even. - Okay, I'm kidding, I'm kidding. - You're gonna say the same thing about Seven Deadly Sins too? - What's the greatest anime OP of all time? - Oh my God, that's so hard. - In this era?

- Of all time. - Of all time. - I mean, I think that there's- - Why is it Unraveled? - There's definitely an argument for it. Like I think you can't say it's not in the top three. - Yeah. - Unraveled is up there. - And just iconicness. - Yeah. In terms of like just an actual, something popular. - And we're talking about iconic, yes. - You know what's crazy? Breeze Zero came out and it takes so goddamn long for us to get more Breeze Zero. - Yeah. - Which we are just getting- - No Game No Life came out in the same league.

like range what the fuck it's been 10 years since no game no life are we in season 2 or 3 of rezero 3 like season 3 is coming out yeah isn't that fucked and nothing happened last season and we've had how many seasons of my hero academia what are we on now like 8

Yeah. But this was when My Hero Academia, I still very much enjoyed it. My favorite fight of My Hero is still the very first All Might fights. Just something about that was just so pure. Not gonna lie, bro, I don't remember. The hype around that show was immense as well.

You know what I don't understand? Why Erased got so popular? No, it's a fucking mystery. To this day, I don't think anyone can understand. It still has one of the most... I'm not going to say worst, but definitely wrong direction endings ever for a show of its kind. To answer your question about the best anime opening of all time, my personal pick is the Air Gear opening.

That's a banger opening. Yeah, you gotta admit. But who the fuck in this day and age remembers the Air Gear opening? You do. I remember it. Alex does. I remember it. It's Garnt's job to remember it. That's why I'm saying it's a personal pick, you know? In terms of iconicness, like, I don't know, first Attack on Titan opening as well was fucking insane when it came out. It's also hard, I think, to judge. Obviously, we have so many shows now and there's a lot more shows coming

out yeah but I do feel like it's hard to look on this era because it still feels so blended in with the current era that we're in

- Well, yeah, it's 'cause a lot of these shows are still going. - Yeah, a lot of these are still going. I feel like- - Yeah, because anime production is, although so many more shows come out, it's become slower. Like shows are airing slower. - But I think this is the era that very much started the modern era of anime that we have now. And then when "Jujutsu Kaisen" comes out, that's gonna be when it comes, when it steps into an even bigger game. - Oh yeah, oh yeah. - It's like "Attack on Titan" started this era and then season four is gonna start the next era along with "Jujutsu Kaisen."

- Yeah, I think if you look at like the Google trends of like anime, it's like the most like biggest spike in recent years, I think is "Jujutsu Kaisen." - Yeah. - That makes sense. - Yeah. - And I think for Crunchyroll, it like upped their numbers a ton. - Yeah. - People just wanted to watch "Jujutsu Kaisen." - Exactly, you have, I mean- - Well, it's because a lot of people who watch "Jujutsu Kaisen" only watch "Jujutsu Kaisen." - 'Cause it's good, right?

Sure. It's all right. All right. Should we go to the next era then? Yeah. I mean, this is, yeah. I mean, we can talk about a lot here, but I feel like. I feel like Maiden Abyss came out during this time too. Yeah. Right. It feels so much more. Cause we get one, one Maiden Abyss episode a year. All right. 2018 to 2020. This was when I was on my final straw.

- This is your 14th reason. - This era was when I'm like, all right, I think I might start packing it into- - But I feel like we got so many bangers. - I see the top left and I'm like, banger. Oh, see. - We got so many bangers. - I mean, there's a lot of bangers on this list. Don't get me wrong. - I mean, we're literally trying to like smash in like three amazing- - JoJo part five, banger, Beastars, banger, Devilman Crybaby, banger, Mob Psycho, banger.

What else is there? Golden Camel was pretty good. Which we're getting another season of four years later. Yep. Five years later. Fuck me, dude. See, we're waiting so long for anime seasons now. Yeah, we are. That's just because there's so many anime being made right now. They gotta cut like half the anime. Oh, yeah. We need like an X factor for anime. Yeah. We're like a Simon Cowell type judges. What's allowed to be made? It's the only way we can kill the Yusuke genre.

Sorry, love. You've already made 15 easy comments. Yeah. I mean, 2018 and 2019 were both goaded years for anime with shit like Bob Psycho coming out. And Goblin Slayer, right? Goblin Slayer. That came out in this era. I look so fondly back at Megalobox. Yeah, Megalobox was so good. It was good. The Vinland Saga came out in 2019 as well. Oh my God.

This is where my memory comes back because from 2013 onwards, I started doing the yearly anime recaps. So that's why I can remember every big anime coming out. Honestly, we're getting to that point where there's so many good shows per season, per year, that we probably look at it every year. But I mean, you can never see the style shift. Yeah. Do you think every generation of boys from Yuno Gasai onwards is just going to have a fucking pink-haired girl ruin their fucking...

ruined them yeah because golly shit darling in the franks should not have been as big as it was oh my god but it was it was not big for darling in the franks it was big for zero two man yeah isn't it crazy how popular that show was given how mid it was yeah yeah it was like you would you could not go to convention where someone was not cosplaying zero two yeah i mean yeah and then they and then we got to do the second half of the show and everyone went like oh

It's like, oh, we went to space. Aliens. Aliens. Aliens. The whole story was like, no. Trigger was like, we'll take it from here.

from here oh man at least jojo part 5 was fucking sick yeah jojo this is like jojo at this peak as well in terms of like popularity before netflix took over i'm hoping i hope part 7 will revive yeah this this era is defined by jojo memes and demon slayer episode 18 or 17 yeah and darling in the franks episode 14

- Remember the controversy of that episode? - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - What was the controversy of that episode? - It was the blue haired, the short haired blue haired chick. - Yeah. - Like, what was it? Like "Confessed to Love" or something? - That's like the least- - 'Cause this was- - That's like the "Tamest Domestic Girlfriend" episode. - Yeah. - Yeah. - It was like the year after the whole like,

I love Amelia meme. That was just over the internet for a while. Then it's just like another blue haired girl gets cucked. How many? They can't keep doing this. It's true. It's true. They do be cucking the blue haired girl. And Toradora. They kick the blue haired girl. She'll cuck too. What the fuck? Justice for blue girls. Basically, if you are a blue haired girl in a love triangle, fucking...

You are. Good luck. GG. Dude, Devil May Cry Baby was so good. So good. It was so high. What a fucking awesome ending. I don't get people who are like, I hated it. It was amazing. Like, how do you hate it?

Do you think it would have been bigger if it wasn't the Netflix release and it was airing week by week? Because I feel like with Devilman Crybaby, it got so much hype. I think so, honestly. Everyone stopped talking about it so fast. I am fond now of the new trend of releasing, which is release three episodes right away. The arcade method. I like it. I think it's a genius way of getting everyone fucking pumped and then being like,

Stay with me now for two more months. Honestly, I like it as well. Because who wants to watch one episode of something? I don't want to watch something the first week. That's why I always... I fuck with the three. The three is like a good number. It's such a good idea. Yeah, because I personally... I get sucked in. I personally always waited to marathon at least like three, four episodes anyway. Yeah, me too. Because one episode is just way too short. Like Jujutsu Kaisen season two, I waited like four episodes, five episodes. I was like, all right, I'm ready now. Now I can stick my teeth in and get pumped everywhere.

Yeah. And I feel like it's the perfect middle ground to like the Netflix binge culture, which just makes everything so forgettable. And the weekly culture, which is not enough for me. I don't know how manga readers do it, man. I don't know how they do it. That's like five minutes of content per week. They'll be like, this new manga is so fucking good. It's going to be so good. And it's got literally like 10 seconds of plot. And then you live long enough to become a Hunter Hunter fan.

- He'll be back. - What was that one panel that one new edgy manga that aired like a year ago and literally the first chapter. - "Hobbit of Bachi." - Yeah, and like literally it was all people spoke up for the first chapter and I'd never heard a word about it. - It's because it became a meme. Like so much so that the creator of it was like legitimately thought that he was like, wow, I've only released two chapters but the online audience loves it for some reason. To be fair, I read a little bit of it.

it's pretty good yeah but there's not like not a lot to the other time when people were talking about it so much it was nothing oh yeah no i don't know how that meme started but it was funny all right yeah well yeah this was good yeah promised neverland when that was everything and then wow how how and then it was nothing and then there was nothing the tables turned yeah how the tables have turned man demon slayer god i hate you you you hate to see

I hate to admit how big of an impact it was. I thought it was impressive that they managed to finally capitalize on success. And they were like, finally, let's pump out another season. Yeah, was it this era or was it the era before? When did your name come out?

- Before. - Did it come out during COVID? - No, no, definitely not. - No, because I remember- - I was living in Thailand. - Yeah, 'cause I remember you, when I went to Japan, you were talking about it a lot. - So 2017? - Yeah. - 2016, something like that, yeah. - Yeah, 'cause I, oh yeah,

theater release in America in 2016 so 2016 2017 so just before this era is when they started figuring out how to do anime movies and I don't mean doing anime movies you know doing good anime movies but like releasing it internationally to be a financial success because your name was such a

for anime films in theaters. And then Demon Slayer Mugen Train just blew that out the water. - It was crazy how popular that was. - Now it seems like the new meta is if you have something big going on, make it a movie. I was very, very surprised when they didn't make the end of Attack on Titan a movie because I think that would have worked even better for it if they were gonna do that kind of release. - Should we go to the next slide? Is it the next area? - Next slide. - Next slide.

What I'm also learning from looking at this is that there are a lot of shows that are very popular at the time that just haven't really...

- This is when we get to the point where like the hype for it while it's airing gets big, but then the moment it's finished, it's like no one's talking about it. Like "My Dress Up Darling" for instance, who the fuck's talking about that show anymore? - Well, that's 'cause it doesn't have a season two. - No, it's because the manga got mid. - Yeah, but also, yeah, the manga did get mid, Garnt. I heard that from Joey. - I'll tell you what didn't get mid, "Rent a Girlfriend." - Oh, fuck off.

Yeah, because it went worse than this. I'm going to get worse. Dude, Cyberpunk, holy shit. Oh my God. Oh, what a good fucking show. Tokyo Revengers, my God. I never understood the hype. No, me neither.

I'm like, no shot these kids are 14. You cannot convince me. - I've never had a more frustrating anime watching experience than watching that show. - I think I just don't like delinquent anime. - No, no, I don't either. 'Cause Japan just doesn't do delinquents well. - They just do it in a really corny way where it's just becomes unbelievable. - Yeah, 'cause I've been watching this season, I was watching like "Windbreaker"

which has way better animation than Tokyo Revengers and way better action. But it's still very much just a delinquent anime. And I have like a hard time buying the fact that these boys are fighting life or death, having like gang fights over in high school. I'm like, your balls are barely dropped. Why are you getting into fist fights? I feel like because they're like RPing like delinquents. It's like a Japanese person is imagining what a delinquent must be like.

- Yeah. - Well, no, that's, yeah. And it's also like- - You just don't have them. - And also like a show like "Tokyo Revenge" was clearly aimed towards kids who are probably of or around the same age as these characters. - But it was so popular with women in Japan. - Oh yeah, yeah. - It's so popular with women in Japan. - Yeah, because they were like, "He's kind of a badass and I kind of find that to be attractive." - Yeah. - Because no- - Mikey? - Mikey, yeah. - God, Mikey is probably like the single worst character I've experienced in the past five years of anime. - Yeah, but he also gets the most bitches.

in real life. - But why? - I don't get it. Japanese women love Mikey. - But Mikey's literally a shitty ass character. I hate to like Mikey slander, but I just don't like Mikey. - Dude, I don't give a fuck. I'm not the defender of Mikey. - Actually, I think actually, you know what? No, they all suck. - No, they all suck. - The main character also sucks. - Yeah, it's hard to watch. - Yeah, okay. This is gonna sound weird looking back now. When did Jujutsu Kaisen get popular?

I think it was right from the get-go. Yeah, right from the get-go. It was really popular right away. Really? I think it's Gojo just fucks.

- I might've been the first Gojo fight scene actually. - Yeah, the very first scene where he's like, "Hey, can you let him have the controller for a second?" It was kind of cool. And the whole setting and when he goes to like the like- - Oh no, it's the scene where Gojo reveals his eyes. - Yeah, yeah. - That's what I remember. - He does this shit so high. - Yeah, because I remember before that, I remember a lot of people were just like, "Oh, Jujutsu Kaisen, it's gonna be the next big shonen, next big shonen." And then you watch a few episodes and you're like, "Oh, this kind of is..."

like Bleach, I guess. - Yes. - A little bit. But then they have Gojo and- - Gojo fucks. - That was the one mistake Bleach had. They didn't have a hot character with eyes like that. If they had a character like Gojo, they tried with Kenpachi, but it just wasn't the same. - Something about Gojo just fucks hard. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Bocce the Rock. - Yeah, we don't- - We allow that. We allow that. - I wanna say there are a lot of mid shows.

Yeah, why do you think I stopped? I'm just kidding. There's a lot of good ones here, but there are a lot of ones that didn't. Hey, man, like fucking, you know, Kaguya-sama. 86? No one liked 86. All right. Horimiya?

I mean, yeah, Horde, man, it was garbage. I mean... All-taxi was great at the time, but I don't think anyone talks about all-taxi anymore. That's because it did everything it needed to do. It tied everything up and... It didn't clarify, it just left. Anime is like fast fashion now. We just can't appreciate what we had.

It is. It is. 100%. No one talks about, like even like something like Cyberpunk, it was anime of the year. Everyone loved it. That's why I'm afraid the same thing is going to happen to like shows like Free Ring, for instance, where it's like, I feel like the moment it's done, I feel it's just going to fall off like all of these other shows have because like, except, you know, for actual goaded shows like Villain Saga, for instance. But like a lot of these shows, like when they were airing, it was like all the community was talking about

And now most of these, no one really talks about it anymore. - Like "Blue Lock" was everywhere. - Yeah. - And now "Blue Lock" is nowhere. - I mean, in Japan, it's still everywhere. - Well, that's because it's more of, I feel like it's propaganda in Japan. - It is. - They're like, you will play football. You will like football. - No, no, it's more like, ladies, you will fall in love with these characters. - I feel like it was football propaganda. - No, no, no. - That's why it didn't work in the UK. We already had it. - It was the opposite way around. - You think so? - Where, where...

I feel like Bluelock got such a huge push because of how well Japan performed in the World Cup. They had some historic wins and I don't think it's any coincidence that Bluelock was the top selling manga of that year. If Japan just fucking...

like laid down and died. Ain't no way "Blue Lock" would have been as popular, man. Ain't no fucking way, you know? - So I'm saying it's propaganda guys. - It was just like, it was just two things coinciding with each other. Just, I just happened to be the stars aligning where,

- It was trying to propagandize that you should be a more selfish player if you play football in Japan. - Look, look, look, the whole concept of Blue Lock is just like Japan sucks at football. Let's build an academy to get Japan to do well in the World Cup. And what happens? Japan fucking pops off in the World Cup. Who could have asked for better marketing, man? - Did you see that tweet that was like, nah man, can't watch Portugal play. It feels like Ronaldo is the homelander of that.

It was such a good team. It felt like the entire team is afraid of Ronaldo. Let him kick the ball. That's so true. It's so true, right? There were so many tweets that were like, nah, why is the team afraid to talk to Ronaldo? Yeah.

Oh my god. That's literally just the plot of Bluelock. You should be Ronaldo. Yeah. Oh my god. And yeah, I mean like...

People still like a lot of the reason people still talk about many of these IPs is basically if there is a weekly manga running. You know, people still talk about Chainsaw Man, but that's mostly because of the manga. - I'd like to think that even if Chainsaw Man or Vinland Saga still stopped, we'd still be talking about them. I feel like they've earned their longevity. - I feel like Vinland Saga has, but Vinland Saga transcends anime. - I even think Chainsaw Man has, even if Chainsaw Man stopped.

I feel like we'd still be talking about it. - I don't know yet because I've not read out what happens later in the- - I think even just of the anime. - Of the anime? - Yeah, I think it's done well enough. - I don't think the anime made that big of an impact though. - I feel like it'll be what Akame ga Kyo was.

- No way. - No way. - No, no, no, no. As in like what I Can Make a Kill was to 13 year old boys is what Chainsaw Man is now. - I think Chainsaw Man is way more, but like, I think the reason why not many people still talk about the anime right now is because the anime really didn't have enough episodes to- - No, no. - It kind of came and went. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Did it have 12 or- - To make an impact, like 12 or 13. - Yeah, if they had 25, it would've done it. - Yeah. - Yeah. - They should've,

They should have made more, but I guess they didn't have as much. And also, they decided to animate every opening and ending. Yeah. Yeah, they went a bit too ambitious on that. That was...

A bit much. It was a bit much. It was cool. Cool. Cool. But I would have liked to have been able to stew on something. Yeah. A little unnecessary. Yeah. And we had the ending of Attack on Titan in this era as well. And I think like to me, Attack on Titan season four, at least, or final season, whatever part, I feel like that felt like the first time anime...

was like, that was kind of like an event in anime. - Oh yeah. - Like the final season of Breaking Bad. That was like the first time where if you were an anime fan, you needed to have watched this just to keep up with the conversation. - Yeah, agreed. God damn. All right, well, should we go into the final era of anime? - The final era, the current era of anime. - What do we have? - Free Ren.

- It's just free. - Dethroning Fullmetal Alchemist as the top show of all time. - Yeah, free reign. - Villainsire season two, one piece of trauma. - Villainsire season two. - Oh, which from Mercury? - Which I still haven't seen. - Yeah. - I feel like this past two years have been dominated by very, like less shows than usual. Like there are a lot more like big heavy hitters and more like kind of ones that like, yeah, it's good. - The show this year has been quiet. - It has been very quiet. - I will say this year has been very, very quiet.

from the shows that I've seen from the summer season that are coming up. There's like "Oshinoko" season two. And that's pretty much the only big IP I can think of off the top of my head.

Four might pop off because there's ReZero Season 3, there's Dandadan, which I'm very, very excited for. I think that's going to be very, very big. But even like something this season, like Kaiju No. 8, which you think should...

have popped off a lot because it's like a big Shonen Jump thing. I just, it was like, it was like everyone. - Yeah, I only watched the first couple of episodes of it, but I heard like it kind of lost its steam, like as it kind of went on and it's like, I don't know. - I mean, it was just like, it didn't really do anything that we haven't seen before in Shonen. And it was just an entertaining action show.

And I think this comes off of last year, which was such a good year for anime. Is it like what Owari no Seraph was to Attack on Titan? I guess so. Actually, you know what deserves to be on here? Black Butler coming back. Let's go. Have you watched any of that, by the way? No. You should watch it.

What, Black Bala? The new season. I had to pause it for a second and Google. Because although I read the manga, I didn't read that arc of the manga. And it's set in a school. And I guess I didn't know about this English word. They kept saying... I don't know. Can I even say this on YouTube? They kept saying... Like for a cigarette? No. They were like, you'll be my...

And then they'll be like, oh, it's time. - Wait, what? Is this is the new season? - Yes, and so I had to Google what this word meant 'cause I didn't know it. And I feel like I fail as a British person. So apparently,

This is an old tradition that they had in the UK, which was in some like, in like Eton, you know, like the most privileged of privileged schools. Yeah. It was a custom to have the freshmen kind of do the chores of the upperclassmen. Right. Yeah. And they were called f***ers. Ah. And I guess in certain...

Broadcasting platforms, they changed the word, but in some of them they didn't. So the platform I watched it on, which was the one that I guess wasn't the American one. It's because I watched it on like Netflix, which had the- Yeah, Japan Netflix. Japan Netflix, which had the English subs. They just straight up ripping it.

And it was kind of, it was interesting. Because I was like, there was literally a time where they said, it's f***ing time. And I was like, damn, it's time to f*** or something. And I was just like, can you guys stop? I understand it's the correct usage of the word. And there was no other word to describe what this is. You didn't have to say that. Why did I have to repeat that shit? You might have to blur that. I don't know.

Do I censor that? I mean, I'm literally not being... Maybe let's censor it just to be safe. But like, I guess isn't... But isn't that also sad that like...

We're literally talking about a thing that was real in a period of time and we now can't say the word 'cause it's been like taken over by a slur. - I guess so. - But like the word's still a real word and you can still use, right? - I mean, it still means cigarette, you know? - Yeah, and it was just very... - I think because you're hearing it in this era. - And it was also 'cause they were all like, I don't know, the way that they were using it felt like very, like I was like, we could've used a different word. - Yeah.

But yeah, this is... Sorry, I derailed the conversation. No, no. It's also a great season though. Very fun. I had so much fun watching that season of Black Panther. And yeah, I mean, I feel like this year in general for anime is going to be a bit quiet. Like I said, last year... Apothecary Diaries came out of nowhere. That was a good one. Apothecary Diaries...

I mean, it kind of came out of nowhere, but it also didn't come out of nowhere. Sometimes you have a series like Apothecary Diaries where it has such a dedicated fan base for the manga and you just never heard of it ever before. - Yeah, but there are so many shows that I feel like very similar vibe to Puck Through Diaries, die hard manga fan bases that just don't quite land with the anime viewers. And I feel like this is normally the kind of show that I wouldn't have gambled on. If you'd asked me, I'd have been like, that's not gonna pop off.

but it did so well deservedly so Apothecary Diaries just hits a whole new like to me a lot of people who didn't watch much anime or like watched much shonen or had much interest in anime they watch Apothecary Diaries especially you know a lot of people who just liked dramas I think my mum would really like Apothecary Diaries and that says a lot it's just fun

Yeah. It's fun. It's a great show. Great main character. Mao Mao is just such a fucking queen and a gremlin at the same time. I cannot think of that show without you mentioning that meme of like, you know how like Thing Japan? Yeah. Thing Japan. Thing Japan. China. China. Japan. China.

So stupid. And yeah, this is basically, we are now very much into the- We're in the Freerun era. We're in the Freerun era. Freerun runs all. We are into the Jujutsu Kaisen One Piece if you like shonen and Freerun if you are in the wider anime. I'm so glad that we started bringing back 25 episodes, 24 episodes.

- I am as well. - It helped some of these shows so much. Like "Free Run" I think benefited so much from having more episodes. - You couldn't have done "Free Run" with 12 episodes. - Yeah, 'cause if you had 12 episodes and then we're like, "Oh dude, I loved the first two episodes. I can't wait for the two years for the one tournament arc." Sorry, not tournament arc, but like class arc. I just feel like it wouldn't have worked. I feel like it did really well from that format. - Yeah. Is there a 12 episode show that is talked about for more than a year? I'm trying to think now. - I don't think so.

- Juditza Qaisen was 20. - That was 24. - Yeah, which I think helped that so much. - Yeah. - Just kept it in the conversation like all year. - Yeah, because like, I think 12 episodes now,

I'm trying to think of what the last 12 episodes show that you know not it's Pocketry Diaries 25 as well that was 25 yeah which again like I think like yeah I think two calls is just the way to go if it's one call you just don't get enough time to uh really get invested really you know make an impact on an audience for a long time sure yeah because it takes it just takes three episodes to really establish I feel like what's going on yeah and then another three is kind of like all right and then

by that point, you're like, all right, we're going to start wrapping this up now. Yeah. Or we're just going to leave you hanging on like ReZero and you'll just, we'll just hope that you still care. Even then, I think like, I am very excited for ReZero, but I feel like they're,

they're taking the piss a little bit. That last arc was not good. Hey man, that last arc was needed. It was needed, but what would have helped a lot is if there was something after the buildup and not four years of waiting. I got the biggest blue balls of my life. True, but I mean, everyone thought the same with Attack on Titan. That's true. Until it popped off. Tell me to sit down. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

- You're right, you're right, Garnt. - What if they don't cook? - Let them cook. - But what if they don't cook? - Hold up. - What if they don't? - Let them cook. - The point is if a series pops off and people start talking about it, people are just going to want to catch up and marathon through it. - Yeah, that's true. - Yeah. - Yeah. I'm just thinking like, I remember like, oh, I look at Kaiju No. 8 and I look at Hell's Paradise and I'm like, those are two sides of the same coin. - I like Hell's Paradise though.

I quite enjoyed it. - It was fun, but no one spoke about it. - It was enjoyable. I don't think anyone's gonna continue talking about it. - It was turn your brain off fun. - Yeah, that's what "Kaiju No. 8" is for me. It was like a different kind of like shonen action. It was fun. I don't think anyone's gonna be talking about it unless it pops off in season two and beyond. - "Zone 100", what an unfortunate fate. - Yeah.

Like, well, I just think it was just, I mean, production. - It just shafted itself. - Yeah. - It was production, but also- - It did lose a bit of steam. - It lost a lot of steam just because of the concept of it.

You can already do so much of it with the concept without it turning into another zombie movie. - I feel like that happens a lot though in anime with like episode one being an absolute banger and then just kind of like not really knowing where to take it and like kind of stumbling. - People were saying the same thing about Oshinoko, right? - Well, I mean, listen, I've been saying Oshinoko was mid from like episode three and people didn't believe me. And now everyone's kind of realizing that it's mid.

I still don't think it's me. I don't think it's me. I think it's me. I think it's really good. I think it had one great episode and if it was an OVA, we would have been like, wow, that's amazing. Nah. It's cooking. I think it's good. You think it's cooking? It's cooking. I don't think it's going to cook any harder. I don't think it's going to cook any harder.

- I think it's reached its peak. - I think they reached it. - I mean, I'm caught up with the manga, let me tell you, it's cooking. - Yeah, but isn't it cooking in the wrong direction? - It's cooking in like a, this is gonna be interesting direction. - Oh God. - Is it cooking as in like, we're becoming domestic girlfriend? - Akasaka is definitely trolling, that's for sure. - Okay, yeah. - Yeah. - Yeah. - You love that though, you love it when,

fans get pissed off. That's like what you live for. - Seeing anime fans and manga fans get pissed off is my hobby. Some of my fondest memories is whenever, like obviously I was like invested in Darling in the Franks for example. I really thought it was a great show.

And then the turn happened and then I wasn't invested in the show anymore, but I think you're more entertaining Seeing the reaction and seeing the internet loses fucking minds that I was being invested in the show That's why I unironically loved the redo of healer just to see how the internet was reacting to the show It's so funny. It was redo of healer didn't get a stronger reaction though

- I don't know man. - There's just a weird one episode. - Episode two. - Yeah. - That's because most people didn't go beyond episode two. - I feel like Goblin Slayer got a stronger reaction than the review of He-Ra. - The episode one. - Yeah. - I keep forgetting that Goblin Slayer is the real title of the name and I just keep thinking of Goblin Deez N'A.

I think my brain is broken. - When you just see a goblin. - Yeah, yeah. - Yeah. - Yeah, that show was- - Yeah, Goblin Slayer was not good. - Yeah, but now I see Oceanoco, it's a good show, but it just makes me really sad that Act-Age is just what happened to Act-Age. - I know, this could have been Act-Age. - Yeah, 'cause I was like, this is like a lesser Act-Age. - Why couldn't it have been tax fraud?

- Yeah, right? - They always bounce back to that. - A little slap on the wrist, you know? - Apothecary Diaries is just like, "Oh, it's tax fraud, okay." - Yeah, every fan is like, "Thank God."

- All right, so we're not doctor disrespecting the site. Oh, thank God. - Oh my Lord. Hey, Pluto is great though. - Pluto is fantastic. - Does that mean that like potentially, what is it? The one that you really want? - 20th century boys. - That we can get a crazy adaptation. - I hope so. - We've been saying that for like the past 10, 15 years. - Yeah, I don't know. Like this era to me, past two years just feels like

It's literally Jujutsu Kaisen, free run Vinland Saga and that's it. - What do you think anime is gonna go? What do you think next trend is gonna be? - I don't know, man. It feels like Vinland Saga is such a chokehold over anime popularity right now. It's hard to imagine anything else. - You mean Jujutsu Kaisen? - So yeah, that's what I meant, yeah. Jujutsu Kaisen is such a chokehold over what anime is right now. - Yeah, I think we're going to get, I don't know. - I want more edgy shows.

- Same. - But like good edgy shows, not edge, edge. Like yeah, he does edgy things. I mean like good shit. Like, I don't know, like how Helsing used to feel. - That's a product of our time. - Yeah, I know. - I'd like to think of like something nice and edgy. - Yeah, that is very much a product of our time. I think, looking at this, the one thing I will say is that it just seems

like very squeaky clean yeah compared to uh yeah joey joey joey no no that's not that's not what i said joey that's not what i want to edge i want more like like kind of like gritty stories yeah like be a little more rough around the edges yeah i just want more like yeah i don't need to like the protagonist but i also don't want him to be meli oldest you know i think like there needs to be you're asking for too much listen i just think you can make a character that isn't just a creep and and they're trying to tell me that it's funny

I think that's the problem. I just don't like Meliodas because they're trying to make me like him. They're trying to tell me that he's a lovable guy. And I just don't think that's what lovable guys do. - If any shroud of morality is left in me, then I will know that he is not a lovable character. - Yeah, I mean, I think a big thing as well is that there was just so many shows being made right now that it's just pretty much impossible to- - It's too much. It's suffocating.

catch up and know everything that's coming out. - It does feel like there's gonna be like a bubble of anime. Like it just feels like this isn't sustainable. - You think it's gonna burst? - Half of these shows must not financially recover what they're investing. - Oh no, that's why do you think we keep seeing like new studios pop up every single year? It's because like- - Yeah.

They're trying to fill in that massive supply and demand and I just feel like eventually they're just not going to be able to keep up and it's just going to crumble. When does the remake era happen? I think... I would argue it's already happened. Yeah, true. I think the Isekai era...

- Might be coming to an end. - Oh, thank God. - Dude, I think genuinely that is like 50% of the reason why half anime sucks right now. - But no, I think it's just gonna be replaced by something else. - Yeah, of course, of course. - I think, okay, this is my prediction.

I think dungeon anime are going to be. I was going to say medieval anime. I thought medieval. Yeah, yeah. Because I think, especially with solo leveling coming out right now, Delicious and Dungeon really doing well. And Free Run doing well. I think it doesn't necessarily need to be Isekai anymore, but I think the whole. So what you're saying is after Isekai, it's just.

- Fantasy. - Yes. - But it's a specific genre of fantasy. - Can we get a Lord of the Rings anime? Can we get a Lord of the Rings anime? That'd be so fucking high. - Lord of the Rings anime? - We don't need a Lord of the Rings anime. - I just want a Lord of the Rings anime. I just want a Lord of the Rings anime. I just want, oh my God, I just want a Lord of the Rings. I don't know, I didn't even have to be good. - Yeah. - I just want to see Samwise animated.

- I just want a 12 episode battle of Helm's deep. - Yeah, that'd be hot. - Give me it, give me it. I don't even need it. - I think that's just called kingdom, isn't it? - Yeah, sure. - Kingdom is literally that. - Oh man. - I don't know, yeah. I'm totally fine with fantasy. I'm so into fantasy kick right now. So I'm chill. - Yeah, I like fantasy stuff. - And then it will be shit and it'll get overdone and then we'll get space.

- Yeah, we'll go back to sci-fi. - I want Space to come back. - I kind of do too, but darling in a Frank Swimmy thing, maybe I don't. - I just want more cyberpunk shit, man. - I like cyberpunk too. - Give me more cyberpunk shit. - Steampunk too, I'm down for. - Steampunk and cyberpunk has been proved time and time again that people still love that aesthetic. - Yeah, right now it just seems like escapist media aside from like- - It's too much. - There's so much escapist media right now, especially in anime.

Which... Terrorist anime. Terrorist anime. Terror and Resonance. Didn't take off as much as I thought. No, no. I would love to see... I mean...

Ash, but he joins Just Stop Oil. Whatever it is. Just Stop Oil. Ash, but he becomes a political activist. In this episode, we're going to blow up the Stonehenge. Ash gets his fortress to use explode on Stonehenge. Ash, but Muck goes to the Louvre.

- I'm wondering if solo leveling is going to pop off even more than it did. 'Cause I didn't really feel like it popped off too much in the anime community. - I feel like it kind of did, but then everyone was like, "Yeah." - The recap episode, right?

I feel like the recap episode got more discussion than anything else. Well, I'll be interested to see if it does. Yeah. But that's all the eras of anime. That is all the eras of anime. I think we actually ended up talking for like two hours in the end. So I guess we yapped. Oh, shit. I thought we were going to do this for an hour. We yapped too much. But I hope you guys had fun. Let us know your thoughts and opinions. Let us know what you thought about your favorite era of anime. We'd love to know.

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