Goodbye Trash Taste Season 1 | Trash Taste #54
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- Hello and welcome to another episode of Trash Taste. And this is, I'd say a special one, right? 'Cause it's the last episode you're gonna see in this studio. - I was just thinking that as well. - Oh, anyway. - We definitely didn't script that bit. - I'm your host for today, Garnt, and with me are Joey and Connor. And yeah, boys, how are you doing?

- You start to be moving out. - A little, a little sad. - Just a very busy time right now.

- It is. - Because we've got so much to do with the new studio. It's like, all right, we've got to record one before we start tearing the studio down. - Yeah, yeah, exactly right. - And we're probably going to film like a short little vlog for After Dark as well, which will hopefully be out by this time. - It'll probably be out before this. - Yeah, so go check out After Dark. - Yeah, 'cause I mean, we are literally moving out tomorrow after we film this today. So by the time this comes out, this will probably be like four, three, four weeks after. - It still hasn't sunken in that we're moving out tomorrow.

- I haven't sunk in for me yet either. - I'm just dreading having to redo everything and set everything up. And we have a setup that works here and everyone's like, why are you moving? Why are you moving? But you gotta mix it up, you gotta keep it fresh. - Yeah. Also you'll see why we want to move if you watch the after dark vlog because we have no fucking space in here. I am glad that I don't have to like,

- I dread whenever I'm the host 'cause people don't know the fucking obstacle course you have to go around to get to this host chair. - I feel literally bad for every guest that comes to the show. - Yeah, we do have a- - Who has to like perform parkour to get to this seat. - We have a lot of tripping hazards and yeah, Lady Beard nearly tested the limits of our set in multiple ways. Not just the shelf behind you, but all the wires and stuff. That man was too large and in charge for those wires.

- Yeah, I can't imagine how the guest feels having to sit here and having like, what if you need to go to the toilet, right? 'Cause the reason, okay. The reason I hate going on flights and sitting on the window seat is I hate not being able to access the toilet under my own will. - Oh, I do.

I know now my limits of my own bladder. So now whenever I'm on a long flight, I'm like aisle seat. Give me aisle seat immediately. I don't have to look at the view. I've seen, I know what the outside of a plane looks like. - I know what sky looks like. I don't need to look at sky. I know what a city looks like from above. - I will sacrifice. - All right, hold up.

- Okay, this is gonna be our first topic for fun. Listen, I am a firm window seat fan. - Why? - Let me tell you why. Because, right? What's the biggest downside of being in the aisle, gentlemen?

- What is it? Come on, there's gotta be- - Downside? - There is no- - You don't see the view. - There is one glaring, gigantic, annoying issue. And that is motherfucking people in the window and middle seat wanting to get out. And God forbid they're fucking clumsy as shit. And they're like, "No."

- Oh, like fucking falling over everything. And then they've got like 10 shit that they got on their lap. They got like the whole fucking family buffet and shit. They got like 10 headphones, portable charger. It's like, for fuck sake, put it in your fucking bag. They're just trying to shimmy around. Like get that shit away from me. I want to go in the window 'cause I want to sleep and I don't want to be disturbed.

- But you're okay with disturbing. - Disturbing, yeah. 'Cause that just shows like the difference in mentality. 'Cause I would rather, I'm fine with being disturbed. I'm just like, go to the toilet, man. I know you need it. - His voice with that, I'm fine with being disturbed.

- I don't know if everyone else sees it the same way as I do. 'Cause I know that I get annoyed by minor things. My house could burn down and I'd be like, "Well, that's fucking, that's really inconvenient, isn't it?" But someone moves in the aisle seat, for fuck sake. - No, because for me, there's like a counter. Because I know how much I piss. I mean, I'm glad that I don't need to worry how much I piss on trash taste. 'Cause I piss a lot on trash taste. But in the confines

of an airplane, you are stuck there and you ask to go to the toilet once, all right, that's reasonable. Everyone knows everyone needs to go to the toilet, but twice, okay, that's kind of pushing it. What if I need to go three times when everyone's sleeping? What if that just happens? - So you're more worried about pissing them off? - Yeah, I'm more worried about pissing them off. - Picture it, you're on the aisle. What is the limit before you start to get annoyed with how many times people will get up to go and pee?

- For me, it doesn't matter because no matter what, I'm gonna be pissing more than these two people combined. - For me, I never get pissed off 'cause I'm like, I get it, man. I know the pain you're in. I know the trouble you're in. I got your brother. - That's my mentality, right? The aisle people, the aisle chumps are used to being annoyed. That's my theory, right? So I don't really feel bad about disturbing the aisle. - I'm fucking zen on the aisle.

- The middle seat you just lose. So, I mean, they already knew they lost. - The middle seat is just the loser seat. No one ever wants to sit in the middle seat unless I think that you're a fucking psychopath if you actually choose to sit in the middle seat. - Well, this is like, okay, well, I mean, you know, the only time I don't give a shit about middle seat is if we're on like an hour or two flight. I'm like, it's fine. - Yeah, yeah, that's fine. - Literally I watched one Jason Statham movie and I'm there.

I mean, I do care on a 12 hour flight, but you've already lost at that point and you should have pre-booked. That's your fault. - Yeah, exactly. - But do you ever do that gamble where you're like, I want the whole row to myself. This plane looks just empty enough where I think I can pull this off. Where you're like, I'm gonna book just the middle seat in a clean row of three. - No, I never do that. - No, I do that. I like to live life on the edge. 'Cause I know that what sick fuck is gonna wanna sit next to a madman that would willingly choose the aisle seat in a row of three?

- That should be like a danger sign. - No, because what I do is that I get the safe seat of just an aisle seat. 'Cause I know that no matter what, even if that aisle is full, I get the extra leg room, I get immediate access to the toilet, I don't disturb anybody, so win-win. But then the moment I get on the plane and I see, oh, there's not a lot of people waiting in this waiting room right now. Then that's when I go like,

- So how many aisles are open today? How many aisles? Can I sneak into one of those? And like, I just ask. And a lot of the times they're just like, yeah, there's not many people. - That's when it's empty. And also I don't ask, I just go. - Oh, okay. - The moment the plane, like the seatbelt things come on, I'm like, that's a free aisle, that's mine. I could see other people on the plane. I see their eyes looking at the free seats. I'm like, no, it's mine. I'm getting out of here. - Out of the way. - I'm like, get down. - Well, that's the other benefit of being in the aisle, right? You immediately just go, go now.

- It's rare that I'm on a plane where it's like, where there's an aisle there. You're like, I'm pretty sure the gamble you're making is like, it's like fucking Gacha odds. - I am talking about when the plane is like basically like 70 to 80% full. - Right. - Because again, like I said, no one,

if you're on the booking page of the plane, you get to see the layout as you do, you're not gonna sit next to the guy who picked willingly in the middle. 'Cause that's a bad sign. I wouldn't do that. If I saw someone in the middle, I'm like, he's a psychopath.

That's a psychopath. - He wants to socialize on the plane. - Yeah, I'm like, no, no, no, no. I'm not falling for this. - I'm not here to fucking socialize. - I don't wanna join a cult today. I'm sure there'll be some cults and stuff. But then I don't mind going on the, okay, so, okay, I'll do that gamble. If it doesn't work out, I might go to the like, whoever's next to me, like, you wanna swap?

- Do you actually? - Yeah, sometimes. I'm like, listen, I'm gonna sleep. Do you wanna swap? And then they're like, yeah. - Wait, how easily do you sleep on planes? 'Cause I remember when I was like- - With great difficulty. - With great difficulty. So like for me, sleeping on the window seat is actually less comfortable than sleeping on the aisle seat as well. Because for some reason, like you, but like, your nature is, you can lean on the wall part, right? But the wall,

of the plane is, I don't know why it's just tilted at such an angle where you can never get a comfortable leaning on that ball. It's like, I don't know what engineer designed it to make planes, especially on the window seats, the most uncomfortable angle to lean your head by. - Yeah, that is true. - And it is so weird because I have no trouble sleeping on cars. Cars, trains,

any other kind of moving vehicle, I sleep like a fucking baby. Put me on a plane and I'm like insomnia, like insomnia speed runner. It's just like- - Well, I normally wear a hoodie and a jacket no matter what the weather. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - I'll use them as padding.

- Yeah, because it also gets fucking cold. - Because I need my head to be at least like a 45 degree angle, right? - That's called privilege. - No, no, no, no, no. - How does the, how does sleeping in the aisle make this solution better? - Because I can't tilt my neck enough that it's like, it's almost like horizontal. - Here's how I kind of go like the wall is here and the seat is here. I kind of nestle into this corner. - Yeah, because- - Just kind of like,

- Yeah, I do that. - 'Cause like for me, like I said, my head needs to be like at least a 45 degree angle. So not my entire body, but at least my head, you know? So it feels at least like I'm lying down, even though I wake up, I get fucking neck cramps or whatever. - Bro, just go business. Like at that point, just go business, man. - Honestly, I have no problem just sleeping. Like I'd put my head down and just sleep on my arms on my lap. - I can't do that. - I could do that. - I've attempted to do that as well.

- I'm too tall. - That sounds like a short person to me. - This is what happens when you're lower than six foot. You get, you can just, the world opens up to you. It's like a fucking origami puzzle. - The 511 club over here. - Honestly, every time I go on a plane, I'm just like, damn man, I wish I was a bit shorter. I wish I was the 511 club.

God, how does it feel to be short? Oh my God. - Well, that's the other benefit to being in the ILC, right? Is that you can stick your legs out and actually stretch them out. - No, no, you can't. - Yeah, you can. - 'Cause you get a year to do for 10 minutes and the woman comes over, she's like, "Hey, put your fucking legs in." Or the cart comes by and your legs just fucking cut off. - No, I'm like fucking right up against the seat though. So like, it just slides past. - I don't know, I don't know, man. I don't know. - It's like a Jackie Chan film. I'm just like, just slides past. - But I also, I don't know if I can do this now 'cause it's been,

for like two years since I've been on a long flight. - Yeah, it's been a while. - It's been like two years, but I used to stay up all night working

And then my flight would be at like what? Like maybe midday if I was lucky. Maybe 8:00 AM if I was even luckier. So I'd stay up all night working. And then right before I got on the plane, I would just take one of those like over the counter, really cheap, weak sleeping pills that you can get. - The UK ones. - Yeah, they're super, they're not like American. - Like melatonin? - No, no, no, melatonin is the good shit. That's illegal in the UK. Or you need a prescription to get melatonin. - Oh really? - Yeah. - I think the one that you get from the store is like similar to hay fever medicine, I think.

- Like the drowsy medicine. - I swear to God, that's just sugar pills. I swear to God. - It doesn't actually do much, but it's enough to like kind of get your head going and you're like, all right, okay. I'm already sleep deprived. I stayed up all night working and now I'm gonna go to bed. 'Cause like when I went, what was it? Two and a half years ago, maybe the last con season I actually did before pandemic, I went back and forth from America like four times in one month.

- To the UK? - Yeah. - And the only way I could do it is by sleeping. - If I need to sleep on a plane and I don't have like melatonin or like sleeping pills or whatever. - I've never taken melatonin. - Yeah, I just go like, just give me like two gin and tonics.

- Alcohol doesn't work on me to make me sleep. I don't know. - Really? - To me, I never drink alcohol on planes because alcohol just makes the fluids run through my body faster. So I just got to pee more. So that just adds an extra layer of stress for me. 'Cause I'm just like, I gotta pee more now I'm on this plane. - I can not pee. I can hold the pee. - I can not pee. - That's an out of context comment. I can hold the pee for like the whole 12 hours.

- You're a mad man. - I unload before I get on the plane.

- I fully unleash it and I drink minimal water on the plane. - Yeah, well, I'm pretty sure I unload as much as I possibly can. I go to pee like five times before I get on the plane and like I sit down immediately as I know- - You're probably peeing five times before you get on the plane. Your bladder already sounds like it's failed you before you even got to the gate. I'm only peeing like once. - I don't know what it is though. It's like a Pavlovian effect where like the moment you hear the of like the seatbelt sign, it's like, oh fuck, I have to pee.

- Every time. - I mean, that's what I can hold it and I can sleep. So I'm like, I tell the people next to me, like if they seem nice, if they don't seem nice, I won't say anything. 'Cause you can just tell people. - Tell them what? - I'll just be like, if the food comes, don't wake me up. I don't care about the food. Don't wake me up for anything. - I thought you were gonna say, don't worry if you have to pee, 'cause I'm all for it, man. - Well, 'cause sometimes if you're in like, if you're in a sleep,

and they ask you, do you want food? And they think that you're like actually like conked out like completely. They might think like, oh my God, he's like, he's fainted or something.

- If you don't wake up. - If I'm on a plane and I'm asleep while the food goes past, like I've never been woken up for food. - Oh my God, I've had people wake me up so many times. - Dude, that is, I hate that actually. - And I'm like, do you know how hard I worked for this five minutes? I waited two hours to get to sleep for five fucking minutes so you could wake me up. This is why I also don't want to sit in the fucking aisle 'cause the moment I fall asleep, some person could be like, excuse me, can I go to the toilet?

You literally waited. You waited until I felt fall asleep. - Right, right. - Fucking piece of shit. I hate you. You are a scum of the earth. I will watch the moment I see them about to fall asleep. I'm like, I'm gonna pee if I'm in the thing. Cause I'm like, I wanna give you some time. - Yeah. And like, there's only one thing that annoys me more about getting woken up just to eat, you know, on a plane, which I wasn't even hungry in the first place. And that is babies on a plane. I don't know, man.

- Crying babies on a plane just trigger something in me, man. I think it should be legally allowed. - Do you have noise canceling headphones? - I don't. They're a lifesaver. - Literally, what are they called? - Dude, I feel like a baby's cry pierces any kind of anything. - No, no, no, no, dude. Those Sony WX4000, whatever the fuck they are, the stupidest name they ever picked for them. Those amazing noise canceling headphones. You won't hear a fucking thing.

- Yeah, 'cause I don't know. I don't usually use noise canceling headphones. That might be my problem. Because right now I'm just like, I think it should be legally allowed to punch babies if they cry on a plane.

- Can we all just agree on that? - Shut up. - I feel like they might cry more. I don't know how the parents would feel about this. - You gotta hit them just right. - So it's like Mad Max when the baby starts crying, parents are like fucking. - All right, man, problem solved. - I never thought I needed. - It's like Austin Powell's judo chop. - Judo chop!

- Oh my God. I never thought I needed noise canceling headphones until I had them. And then I can't, I literally go everywhere with them. Like you see me, I'm always where you are. I do not go anywhere without my noise canceling headphones now. - I would only use noise canceling headphones for the airplane. - That's what you think. - Okay, in what other?

Like situations. - It's so nice on the train or any form of transport walking around, just getting to isolated and hearing your music and just the music. And if you want, you can hear some background noise. It doesn't really matter. - Dude, it's like living through an AMV. It's fucking awesome. - It's great. I wanna hear Phil DeFranco when I'm walking downtown going, "What's up beautiful bastards in my ear?" - Right in my ear. - Yeah, right in my ear. All I wanna hear is Phil in my ear. - I don't know, I feel like I zone out enough as it is. I don't need noise canceling headphones to make me.

I literally just walk in front of a truck or something. I've had noise canceling headphones on. - You learn to adapt. - You learn to adapt. - You become more wary. - I look around a lot more now. - Yeah. - This is a good thing. - Kind of like daredevil, right? You take out one sense, so you got to compensate for it with your other sense or something. - Just buy them, you'll see. - Yeah, they're great. - 'Cause I always thought like expensive headphones, I'm like, I don't need more than 20 bucks or 50 bucks headphones, what a scam. And then I bought them and I'm like, I'm such a fool.

- I was so wrong the whole time. - The beeps and boops sound even better now. - Oh, they are amazing. It changes everything. - I did used to have like really, really good headphones, but they were just a real hassle. - Beats by Dre. - They were just like a real hassle to just lug around. - That's why I stopped using them. - That's why mine are like, they fold in themselves pretty easy to put a coat pocket or something. - I just use the AirPods. - Yeah, that's why I like using like, you know,

- Earbuds whenever it's daily life. If it's on a plane, yeah, I'll bring the headphones. - Yeah. - I wear the headphones everywhere. - See, like especially this time, like I don't mind the headphones either, but like this time of year when it gets hot as shit. - Yeah. - I hate having headphones around my head. - I need something to distract me from the heat.

- So just blast the audio. - So what, add more heat around the neck? - Add more insulation. - Take one of the sensors away from me so I can just go to another world. So I don't have to fucking pay attention to Japan anymore. - No, I hate that because I start sweating here, like on my ears. And then when I take it off, it's like. - Well, you have a lot of hair though. So that might be why, 'cause I don't really have like that much hair around here, so. - What? - I mean, that's pretty good. - Nice self burn. - You're like muffling all the hair in there. You're like fucking making it up. - I have to like fucking like raise it up like this to like hear anything. - Yeah, well, go on, be fine then.

- Yeah, you're good. - You two are fine. - Yeah, you'll be fine. - I'll be good. I'll be good. - Sure enough, I'll have no hair and then I'll be no problem at all. - Then you'll just have like a sunburn mark on the head. - Looking forward to getting sunburned on your head, Connor? - No.

- I'm just gonna become a hat guy. Beanie guy. - You already are starting to become a hat guy. Every time I see you in the summer. - Oh yeah, because I realized that like it fucking hurts to not wear a hat. - It hurts? - Yeah, the sun hurts so much. I think that's what the biggest thing that changed to me. I was walking today to the train and I was like, when did I just like hate seeing the sun? Like when did that happen? 'Cause I remember I didn't mind being outside. But now I hate the thought of having the sun on my skin at all.

- Sounds like the most British thing I've ever heard, honestly. - I didn't used to be this way. I don't know what happened. - I just hate the sun. - Wait, can you tan? - No, I just burn.

- Right. - But now I actually like, if I stay in the sun too long, I feel like nauseous real fast. - Really? - Without like a hat or anything, yeah. - I feel like it's like a different way. - Is it just because it's too hot? - I think maybe here, yeah. I think this is just way hotter than I'm used to. - It's also because the humidity, right? - Yeah, the humidity is the sun. - I feel like you're just, it's not the sun, it's just the heat. - It's both, it's both. - In like England, the sun fucking tickles you.

You don't feel anything. - But it's like, I feel like they play off each other. So the sun makes the humidity worse than the humidity makes the sun worse. - Yeah, absolutely. - Because when the sun's beaming on you in like LA or whatever, it's not too bad. Obviously I don't want to stand that. - Really? It hurts. - I don't know, man. I don't know. - I'm not saying it's great, but I mean, it's better than it is in Japan just because of the humidity makes it feel 10 times worse. - I mean- - I don't know if there's some like ray bullshit, like mimic, like, you know, going in the water droplets in the air, just fucking,

the frogs are making the water turn gay. I don't know if there's some shit going on there. - Some conspiracy theory shit. - I don't know if, there's pretty, someone smarter than me has figured it out. - It's honestly, I think it's just like a preference thing, right? Like some people are like, yeah, humidity is whatever. And then there are others who are like,

- Yeah, my skin is like physically burning. - I like a little bit of humidity. Japanese humidity is like way too much. - Last summer I could only survive by going around with like a fucking UV umbrella. I felt like an old woman. - Yeah, that's all right. - I felt like an old woman. I would just go around like this foldable umbrella that I would just go around. I'd be like, don't talk to me. - Yeah. - 'Cause I can't. - The first time I saw you with that, I thought,

- I was like, are you waiting for me to like say a joke or like you taking a piss or? - Because I realized it's not enough to just protect my head. - Is this a bit?

- It started like even the hat didn't really help that much. And I needed to cover like my neck and like my arms and shoulders. - You need to get those like visors. - I'm one step away from being the old woman at the supermarket because they wear like sleeves, like shade sleeves and like a full like neck thing for the sun. - Shout out to those of us who've never been sunburned in our lives.

- Is this a white man problem that I just don't get? - I think so. I think I'm aging rapidly. - Imagine sun burning. - Imagine sun burning. Imagine being hurt by this natural occurring thing that's existed since the beginning of our planet. - I feel like my body didn't age and then it decided that everything would just kick into overdrive and start aging rapidly from age like 23. I don't know what happened. Moving to Japan just made me feel old. I don't know why.

- Literally the youngest man in this room. - My UV umbrella broke, it was shit, it snapped. - It broke? - It broke, I don't know how it broke. - What did the sun snap it? - I don't know. - The rays were too heavy. - I like to- - How did it break? - How the fuck did it break? - You know when you pull it out, 'cause it was one of the foldable ones, so it goes in, so I could fit it in a small bag. It just like, when I pulled it out one time, it just fucking came off. And I was like, oh.

- I guess no sun protection for the day then. - No, so now I need to buy a new one. I've been looking on Amazon, but this one hasn't caught my fancy yet. So I'm very picky. - Is this a fashion statement or something as well? - No, I just wanted one that wouldn't break, you know? 'Cause I've been burnt once, twice.

- Twice now, from the sun and from the umbrella breaker. - Then just buy a more sturdy one, surely. - Oh, thanks, Garnt. - It's an umbrella. It's a fucking umbrella. How wrong can an umbrella be? Does it protect you? Does it give you shade? That's all it needs to do, surely. - Well, I mean, you know, 'cause- - Why the fuck are you worried about like the design? - Well, 'cause I already look like a clown using it. I wanna at least not make it too bad and get like a, if I get a pink one, it's like, it looks pretty bad. So I wanna try and get like a somewhat stylish one. - Nothing wrong with pink, man.

- Yeah, I would be. - I could rock it. I just don't wanna have to justify why I'm rocking it. You know what I mean?

- Why are you like trying to prove a point? - I could own it, I just don't want to. I have no qualms about having a pink umbrella, if that's what you're wondering. - That's the most like roundabout way of saying yes, but also no. - Fine, I'll get a pink umbrella. Fine, I'll buy a pink umbrella. - Yeah, get it. Do it for the bit. - Fine, fine. No one's gonna see it. It's literally just my- - No, we'll put it on the Twitter, don't worry. - It's for the bit, my daily life. My daily life is a joke. - We'll put it on the Twitter, don't worry.

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- How's that, Joey? - Nihongo Joe's back to the episode. - Fucking Joey. - Script reading, big brain. - Oh my God. Yeah, so I don't know. - Well, in other news, there's something that happened. - There is something less lighthearted and more serious that has happened recently. - I was trying to find a little like downtime before we get on that. I guess we're going straight into it. - Let's just go straight into depression. So how can we say this boys? One of the greatest manga artists. - One of my fucking heroes just died.

- One of the greatest manga artists of all time just passed away recently. - This is old news by the time this comes out. - By the time this comes out, this would be like a month old news now. But yeah, Kentaro Miura, author of "Berserk" has passed away. - Age 54, right? - Yeah, age 54 of like, what did he die of? - I forgot the scientific name of it, but it's like one of his main arteries in his heart just like exploded.

- Fuck. - Essentially. So basically it's a heart attack. - Yeah. - Yeah. But yeah, it's a fucking horrible way to die. - I'll tell you honestly, after hearing about this news, I'm never gonna make fun of the hiatus ever again. - Yeah, honestly.

- No, like legit, like it's scary, man. Like, because yeah, because you know, obviously no one really knew as to why he was on hiatus, right? - Yeah, no one knew. - They normally don't usually give reasons. They just like, he's on, he, she is- - People are extremely first. - Yeah, they're like, he, she is on hiatus, just deal with it kind of thing. But yeah, apparently, I guess, I don't know, was he sick?

Or was it just completely silent? - I don't know. At the time of recording, I haven't read enough about what happened to know if it was like a reoccurring health problem or if it was just a sudden thing. But man, we all know how much pressure manga artists get put through

and how much work they have to do on a weekly basis. I mean, it's crazy to think that most of the big manga artists we know about, you know, work in Shonen Jump or whatever, get like two weeks off, no, less than two weeks off for a year, right? - Well, it's like golden week and then like one extra week. - I doubt they take it off. - And they don't really, I doubt they take it off as well. It's just one week where they are forced to take a break, right? - I mean, I wasn't,

- If I was too familiar with "Berserk", I'd only watch the '90s anime. - That's familiar enough. - Which I really enjoyed. - Yeah, it's great.

But fuck, I mean, it's just kind of sad hearing like a legend of the industry who's kind of influenced a lot of things that we've done. - Yeah, 'cause I remember we were filming another project when the news broke to us and it didn't hit me immediately because I was in like work mode, I was in filming mode. So I was like, okay, I gotta do this, this, this. And then I got home, listened to Gus's theme once and he just played continuously for like the entire night. And I'm just sitting there just like fucking,

like my soul, part of my soul had died. - Yeah, I literally went home and I was like, I'm gonna reread "Berserk." And then I got- - I feel like everyone did. - Yeah, I started reading it. - I couldn't get past volume one without feeling like this fucking wave of like, oh. - Yeah, 'cause like, I always know that "Berserk" is one of the greatest manga that has ever been made. And then going back home and realizing just,

remembering everything that was in this story and in this manga, it just hit even fucking harder because I just had forgotten how good it was before I really took the time to remember what it had achieved and some of its greatest moments. If you hadn't read "Berserk", there's always a perfect time to read "Berserk" because anytime is the perfect time to read "Berserk". So please read fucking "Berserk", it's amazing. - I mean, the manga single-handedly inspired the "Dark Souls" series.

- I mean, it inspired a lot. It wasn't just "Dark Souls." A lot of things wouldn't exist right now if not for "Berserk." And I don't know what it is about "Berserk," but it's literally like, it's literally the one show or not even the one show, the one story or the one manga that seems to be like, no matter how tough this person is, no matter how like,

detached they are from the world or whatever. Berserk seems to be that one story that seems to be able to affect anyone who reads it. - Yeah, because like fundamentally, you know, it's like this whole like dark fantasy thing with these like mythical creatures and it's bloody gory and, you know, epic. But like the main themes mostly are just like

one person trying to figure out what the fuck they wanna do in life. And like, that's a theme that literally anyone can get behind, right? Like I'm kind of in this world, shit's happening around me. I don't really know what my purpose is in life. - I forgot how brutal it was. - It's brutal. - Again, I watched all the 90s anime. I was like, holy shit. - The 90s is brutal as fuck. - I was like, what the fuck? I was like, oh my God. Like, it's just like, fuck.

- It just hurts to read. - Yeah, it does. - It's so uncomfortable at times. - Yeah, and I think it's incredible because it is really, really fucking brutal. There are some like his art, obviously we haven't talked about his art yet. It's like some of the best art to ever exist

of manga, like some of the horrific imagery he was managed to conjure up and some of like the creature designs and everything were just something straight out of a nightmare, you know? - Oh yeah. - And it was a brutal show and it's an action packed show as well for his guts is like one of the biggest bad asses in anime and manga. And yet having said all that,

the moments that people will remember are like the really intimate moments, which isn't what you think if you looked at "Berserk" on a surface level, right? You look at "Berserk", you see these horrific creatures, you see guts with a massive sword tearing shit up and you're like, yeah, this is a manly man show. And then you read it and you're just like fucking crying inside because you know, you see,

- Just trying to see Guts like get through his trauma and find his journey and everything like that. It's like, it's the real intimate moments that always stand out and it's the real serene moments that always stand out. And I think that's what really sets "Berserk" apart from like so many other series where it's the serene moments juxtaposed against all like the horrific moments that make it one of, to me, like it's one of my favorite pieces of fiction that's ever been made. - No, 100%. - And I got reminded of that after,

remembering everything that Berserk did. - It's like if the fucking Doom guy had like a wife and family and he just went home sometime. You get reminded like, oh shit, this is a guy. - Doom guy's like, why am I killing these? - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - What is my purpose? - I was really, you know, 'cause I don't know why someone compared it on Twitter and I thought, oh, that would be, I guess so. But then I read Berserk, I'm like, nah, no.

- But it is kind of like, you do forget, 'cause sometimes you're reading it and you're like, this is like so Doom-esque where he's literally just beheading horses. And then you're like, oh, this is like Doom. And then it's like really sad. You're like, this isn't like Doom. - It's literally that meme where the girls were like, I can't believe he didn't cry during Titanic. Do boys even have feelings? And then like, there's just the boys crying over the guts theme, which was literally what I was doing that night. Just guts theme was playing and I was just like crying in bed. Just like, oh my God.

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I don't know. It's just, yeah, like every time I reread it, it's just because, you know, every time a new volume came out,

because there was so much time in between like the later volumes. I was like, well, fuck, I guess I have to read it from scratch again. And so I would keep reading it from scratch over and over again. And it's just one of those shows where I'm just like, how does this not,

- I mean, you guys know me. I don't fucking rewatch anything. I refuse to rewatch, but I even just rereading the first, what was the first one called? - "The Golden Age." - "The Golden Age." Just rereading that again, I'm like, holy shit, this was so good.

- Yeah. - Like even though I've seen this, I've read it earlier, like I tried to read it again ages ago for some reason now I'm like this is- - Sometimes when I'm bored, I just like go to the Eclipse Arc and just look at the art. - Yeah. - This is something like, this is fucking, like how can one person think of this? - Yeah, I know. - This is insane. - And you know- - And the dude was like 15 as well when he like first came up with the concept of "Berserk." - Yeah, did you see like, did you see the manga he made before "Berserk" when he was actually 15? - He was like 15 or 16, I'm like- - Yeah, it's better than most,

- Modern manga artist. - I'm like this is not the art skill of a 15 year old. - Exactly, exactly. And like he paired that talent and he just kept improving on it to the point where literally, I don't know, there's only like a few people in the world who I think can even match the talent that he put into the panels that he did. - I mean, I saw this like really interesting interview with him like after his death was announced.

where like apparently one of the big reasons as to why he was on hiatus was because he got so infatuated with detail that it would literally get to the point where he would zoom in and like actually edit every fucking pixel.

- Yeah. - Oh my God. - Honestly. - Sounds like a prisoner to perfection. - Yeah, and he kept getting on hiatus over and over again. And his editors would be like, "You can't even see this detail on paper." So just stop. And he was just like, "No, I have to get this right. I have to get this perfect."

- Honestly, like some of the panels he's done belongs in a museum. 'Cause the reason for that is because I just remember like that night when I went back, I went to look at some of the panels and I just remember staring at them for such a long time. Because when you're reading a story, sometimes you wanna see what happens next. So you don't appreciate the art

at the moment when you first read it. But I went back to look at some of the panels and I just, the amount of work and the amount of detail and the amount of vision that was put into these panels were fucking amazing. And I did not appreciate it fully the first time, even though I could like tell these were amazing. I didn't take the time to fully appreciate how fucking amazing these, some of these panels are, 'cause they are incredible. - 100%. - And they, you know, they,

they are just basically the same as any other painting or any other art. - I really wanna know if they have like a berserk art book of some kind, 'cause I would fucking purchase that in a heartbeat, dude. - I can imagine that they'll probably end up doing something soon to like celebrate the legacy, right? - I hope they do like open up an exhibit or something. - Yeah, that'd be great. - Because that would be absolutely amazing. 'Cause if there's one, you know, one manga that deserves an exhibit,

that deserves their artwork to be plastered on a wall. - It's mirror, yeah. - It's fucking berserk. - Yeah, 100%. - It was kind of sad to see that a lot of people were just like, "Well, what's gonna happen to the story?" And it's like- - Those aren't fans of berserk. - Yeah, it's frustrating 'cause when I saw the announcement on Twitter, there was so many people being like, "Does this mean it's not gonna finish?" It's like- - It's like, yes, no shit. - To me, it's just so, it's like, how about you just give them a chance to like, grieve before you ask these questions? - If anything, I'm kind of- - The answer's probably gonna be

- No. - Because there were a lot of people as well being like, "Oh, but you know, they can probably just get like "Mirror's assistance to finish it." And like, no, no. I would rather it just be where it is. Just end it. - I'm fine with it being an unfinished masterpiece. That's fine for me. It's bizarre. - Was it realistically ever gonna finish, do you think?

- I mean, I don't think like not a single one of like the, you know, the Kings were like killed. I think only one of them was killed. - I think one of them was. - Yeah. - So there was a long, long way to go. - We were so early in the story and the pace that the story was progressing, I doubt it would have finished in our lifetime or, you know, I think it was always going to be unfinished, but I think,

Berserk's already achieved enough that he doesn't need to be finished. - It was like what I said when we talked about, I think last time we spoke at reading manga where I just get to, I often get to a point when reading manga, I'm like, I'm satisfied.

I genuinely it'd be cool if this ends nicely, but I've read up to a point where I feel like I'm happy with what I've been given. And I feel like Berserk has definitely done that. - There's been plenty of moments in Berserk that have felt like a resolution moment. Like a big resolution moment, even though not every plot detail was resolved, even though not every loose end was tied up. I feel like it's,

resolved enough in my heart to make it like impact me this much already. And I think the Berserk, the journey of guts is already amazing enough as it is.

And some journeys don't need to come to an end on paper. I've seen enough of the journey where I'm satisfied. It's incredible. - Just knowing that he's out there somewhere still. - Yeah, exactly. - Looking for the end, right? - Exactly. - The biggest fucking sword. - The fat fucking sword.

- Yeah, and honestly, I don't know what else to say. It was just, it's a story that has impacted me. - If there's anything we can say on this Trash Taste episode, it's please go read "Berserk." Give it a go. - Pay respect to the king. - Yeah, honestly. - Honestly, he is a fucking goat, man. - I hope if we find out more about the details of what might've caused his early death,

- That if it is something to do with being overworked or anything, the lifestyle that I hope it does make a change. If it is, we don't know that obviously, and we might never know. But if we do find out more details and it becomes publicly available and we know that maybe being overworked is a problem. - I think it would be good to at least kind of put into the public discussion. - Because even if you are,

'cause normally with heart problems and this kind of blood stuff, it's normally there is some hereditary stuff at play. But I mean, still at 54, it's young. Lifestyle would have to have play effect. - I think so. - I just want mangas to not have so much stress on their body where it fails. I don't know. I feel bad, man. It makes me feel shitty. - Yeah. I mean, it sucks because there's not really much I can add to that because manga artists work

- We know they get- - We know they work way too hard. - Whether voluntarily or not, the deadlines that they set themselves or set on them, they're too much. And it doesn't help that fans are so demanding and that for some fucking reason, the first question that some fans have when an author dies is what happens to the story?

I mean, it feels so selfish and it feels that, you know, because we as fans also have something where we're selfish and we want them. - Yeah. - I don't know though, like surprisingly from what I saw, there weren't as many of those kinds of comments. - It wasn't that bad. - It just sours your taste when you see like even one. - Yeah, every now and then I saw it and I'm like, okay, clearly you don't really give a shit. - I mean, 99% of fans are crazy.

- Yeah, yeah, yeah. - There were just some of the insensitive ones. - Yeah, but it reminds me of- - But it's like when there's earthquakes and stuff, right? - Yeah. - People are always just like, "Oh, the manga, it's delayed 'cause of an earthquake?" And it's like-

"What do you mean?" Like people die. - Yeah, exactly. - Like earthquakes are no fucking joke. - Yeah, exactly. - And it's like the people that most, I mean, you know, obviously with this situation is very sensitive, you know, and it was very fresh and people, a lot of people care, but I noticed especially with like earthquakes and stuff, that people are very quick to be like, "Oh, who gives a shit? It's just an earthquake." - It happens all the time. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's like, well, I think it plays into the,

the overall sentiment of that a lot of anime fans and manga fans are very demanding for the stuff that they want. And I feel like we as fans need to chill out a little bit.

- Yeah, they care about the product, but not so much about the person making it. - Yeah, I feel like we as fans generally need to chill out about our passion for anime and manga. - Yeah, I'd say that. - External things happen, they happen. It is what it is. - Remember that some actual person is making your product. - Yeah, whether it be an earthquake or personal stress, they're all valid reasons for work to be delayed, whatever it's delayed. I just want creators to be able to create the shit to the best of their ability. - Yeah, exactly. - And not have to worry. - I mean, it kind of reminds me of- - I hope that's not controversial for me to say.

- What a hot take. - Respect staff members, respect artists, respect people behind the work. - I'm sure everyone can agree on it. It's just more, I'm sure 99% of people watching this

it's just that 1% run. It's always that 1%. 'Cause I remember, this reminds me of like the Game of Thrones thing with Joe RR Martin, where I remember like seeing an interview with him and he said that he got annoyed that some people were worried about his health, not because they were worried about his health, but they were worried if he would be alive to finish Game of Thrones. And I'm just like, yeah, that's pretty fucked up. Like fans are saying that to you, aren't they? - Jesus Christ.

- And even if they didn't say it, I'm sure he knows that people are probably thinking- - Yeah, he can read between the lines. - Of course. - People only care about his wellbeing in terms of the book. Like he's being fucking held hostage by the story. Like, you know what I mean? You can't fucking do anything. - If anyone knows the intention of Game of Thrones fans, it's the guy who made Game of Thrones. - It's just sad. It's just sad. I don't know. It's not like this makes me sad for like many reasons. There's just so much at play. - This is why I mean, it's a sad topic. - Unfortunately. - It's all about the respect.

That's all it is. - Respect the creators, respect the artists. Give them some space if they're feeling sick or need a break. - Yeah. - Moving on to lighter topics though. I heard you've been watching anime recently Connor. - Oh I kinda have. - You watch? - Which is a rare feat in and of itself. - I remember I used to do that. - I know the anime man.

- What happened? - Did you guys watch Castlevania? The new season? - I haven't. - No, it's season four now. - Bro, it's so good. - But we haven't talked about Castlevania yet, have we? - It's so good. - I mean, I watched up to season three. If there's one anime I have kind of caught up to, it's Castlevania. - What did you get up to Castlevania?

- I got up to season three. So I haven't finished season three. I'm about halfway through season three. - Yeah. - Yeah. - I mean. - But I mean, it's just been for me, it's been getting better and better every season as it's been going on. And I just haven't had time to binge it yet. So.

- I don't know, man. Everything about that anime, especially the past season just blew it out the water. - What's so good about it? - Like, I feel like everything that was good in previous seasons was at its best this season. - Yeah, really? - The story was the best. The animation was just insane. Like some of the fights, even though in season three, the fights, like the final fight was so good. - Even season one had some great animation. - It just feels like they've stepped it up.

Again, I think one of the strongest points of Castlevania has been the voice acting. English voice acting in Castlevania is insane. - Yeah, it's fantastic. - The fact that they have all the accents on point, none of the accents feel silly. Every single accent that the characters have, it feels genuine. Every single British accent is on point. And it's like, holy shit, how do they do this?

This never happens in anime. How do they get an actual accent? - It's like they hired British actors. - I love the fact that, for example, that JoJo in the dub tried to do the accent, but I wish they'd got the native people. Because in JoJo part one, it's Johnny and Bosch doing a British accent, which isn't bad. - Yeah, it is. - Which isn't bad.

but I know there's no shortage of native English, British accents that can work in LA. - It feels like the voice actors they hired for Castlevanias were just outside of your usual anime voice actors. They felt like general actors that would act in like a TV series or like a live action movie. - Well, yeah, because they have such a good variation of British accents. They have like the whole spectrum and they've chosen it like the characters given the accent based very specifically on like,

where it would be in the UK, like where you were born, your wealth, your socioeconomic background. It sounds like it's so stupid, but it fits every single character. And it's just insane 'cause I mean, we can't appreciate that in the Japanese one where they might get regional accents on point within their own show, right? Sometimes you get like the subtitles where they're supposed to be a bit more like Osaka dialect, a bit rough, but I can't really appreciate that. - Honestly, I've been appreciating Japanese voice acting a lot more recently.

- Really? - Yeah, because I've actually started to watch anime without subtitles on. So I'm like properly forced to listen. - Wow, you are like level 100 Weave right now. - Oh yeah, exactly, exactly. - You're at the final stage before you graduate Weave. - Exactly, exactly. - It's the final test. - Yeah, so I'm like trying to pick up more of my Japanese and part of the exercise I've been putting myself through is like everything I watch now, not subtitled.

Like my enjoyment has definitely of anime gone down, but it's like- - It helps. - It helps so much more. It's a night and day watching with subtitles on and without subtitles on. - When you don't understand something that's being said.

How do you go back and turn subtitles on? - Yeah, so normally I watch anime on Crunchyroll or Netflix, right? So Crunchyroll also have the opportunity to select no subtitles. So I can select no subtitles. If there's something that I really, really wanna know what they said, I just rewind a bit, turn on subtitles like, "Oh, okay, that's what he said." And then move on. Same thing with Netflix as well.

I mean, it turns anime to not just like a passive watching thing and you're just like actively watching. - Study material. - Yeah, it is study material. But if you're gonna have study material, at least have study material you can enjoy. It's just a different kind of watching in my eyes. But since then, I remember recently I've been watching "Nagatoro"

without subtitles. And I had like my first emotional response to watching an anime and without having subtitles on it, it was just, it felt nice. Cause I'm just like, I get what's going on. I'm getting emotionally invested. - Is this what these Japanese people like? - Yeah, that's exactly what I felt. It's like, oh, I'm feeling some stuff now. Is this how the Japanese people feel? I'm not reading the subtitles and getting feelings. I'm actually hearing it. I'm like, oh.

- I don't know how to quite describe it because it was a new feeling for me. - Well, Garnt, I do the same thing just with hentai because they don't have subtitles most of the time. So I just watch them. - Fair enough. - I feel big brain when I, Kimochi, I'm like. - I got that one, I understand that. - I'm kidding, I understand most of it actually.

- It feels weird that I'm doing you a hentai, not fucking anime. - I have actually learned one word from hentai and that was naka. I remember going through my Japanese classes and I was like, so naka means inside. And I was like, where have I heard the term naka? - Inside, center. - Yeah, yeah, like inside, where have I heard, oh.

- Oh, that's where I've heard that before. - That's a word you'll hear quite often. - Yeah, that's the word I've learned from hentai that I can still use in daily life as well. - I can already see the meme. It's like the fucking, the guy drinking with the fucking coffee watching subtitles, anime with no subtitles, watching hentai with no subtitles. I can already see the meme. But I mean, yeah, sorry.

- Yeah, the voice acting is fucking stellar, man. Dude, if every voice acting was like Castlevania, we would only be watching dubbed. - I mean, look, do you think it played a massive part to, I assume it's a big part of it is because it was dubbed first in English rather than dubbed from Japanese to English. - Is there a Japanese dubbed form? - I'm pretty sure there must be. - I've never seen it in Japanese.

- I don't know if I'll be able to honestly. - When you watch the dub, it's so goddamn good. It's actually a shame to watch it in any other language. Maybe this is how Japanese people feel with some of that shit. We don't have a choice, but when we have a choice, why would you pick the one that is best, right?

This is definitely one of those shows where I'm like, it's not even a competition. - Yeah, because like- - But then obviously it was, yeah, it's not- - Yeah, because when I watched season one, I was like, all right, well, the default is in English, because it's an English production. All right, I'll watch episode one, if this, you know, voice acting is kind of subpar, then whatever, I'll change it. But literally first five minutes, I was like, all right, English it is then. I'm sticking to it, it's fantastic. - It's like an anime that is written with kind of

pretty fucking good American, I would say American writers, right? So I feel like it's a lot easier for the actors to- - 'Cause it's like very, yeah, 'cause the dialogue is like very witty and very- - It's really fucking funny. - 'Cause you hear the dialogue and it doesn't feel like anime dialogue. - It's so fucking funny. It's good. - It's very, very witty and like facetious.

- It's just like, it's so rare to find an anime dub where people actually swear. I can count them on one hand. When someone says fuck or shit, I'm like, oh, this dub's going hard. - We not in Japan anymore.

- I love it, I love it. - Yeah, so like hearing it just like said so naturally, you know, like any, like talk to any other Brit or Aussie, you know, it's something that's like just ingrained into our speech. If you listen to Trash Taste, you'd fucking know that.

- It's great too because it doesn't feel forced. - No, no. - Because there's a lot of times where they're like, we're gonna be a little explicit just to be like, "Ooh, edgy and everything." But in Castlevania, it's like, "Yeah, I can imagine that." They would totally say that. - 'Cause when you hear it in an anime or like an anime video game, 'cause I remember the most recent example I can think of is playing Persona 5 dubbed and hearing Ryuji say, "Shit." I'm just like,

"Ryuji, wash your mouth, sir. You are but a child." - "Excuse me?" - When Trevor Belmont's like, "Oh, for fuck's sake." You're like, "Oh, that's nice." Say it again, say it again but louder. - Say it again, in my ears. Closer. - It's so good, dude. I fucking like everything about that. I feel like even though it gets a lot of good, you know, people say it's very good. I feel like it should be way bigger than it is. It's genuinely like one of my favorite animes that I've watched in like the past like year.

- I would agree with that. - It's really up there. - It's really, yeah, it's up there for me. - I can't wait till you watch season four fully and then you're like, you're gonna be like, all right, okay, hold up. - I mean, for me right now, it doesn't even feel like an anime. You know, it's, I mean, it's like, it's an American production, obviously. - It's kind of like in the same- - We're about to get into that topic. - It feels in the same area as Avatar. - Avatar, yeah. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - But then I also consider Avatar anime. I mean, Japanese people consider it anime. It's anime.

- I didn't consider it anime until I actually watched all of Avatar and I'm like, okay, I can see where this argument never ends. - Yeah, I mean, you know, we're getting into semantics, you know, it's whatever because the only thing I will say is that- - Anime or not, it's fantastic. - Yeah, anime or not, it's fantastic. I don't give a shit if you think it's an anime or not, it's just a fantastic show in general. All I was trying to say is like,

I don't think more people in the anime community are talking about it. It's just 'cause it feels different. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - Let me give you an anecdotal story. I was talking to a guy and I asked him, I was like, "Oh, which animes do you like?" And he goes, "One anime that I watched recently that I really liked." This is all Japanese. "I recently watched Despicable Me 2. It was one of my favorite animes of recent." And I was like,

that completely- - Hold up. - It made me realign this whole argument of like, is this anime, is this not? I'm like, listen, this guy, dead ass, this otaku, self-proclaimed otaku, just told me, Despicable Me is a good anime. I'm like-

- You know what? Why are we arguing? - I think it's a stupid argument as well. - I feel like this is a clown argument. This man just killed the argument. - It's literally just like the West versus the West. - We made this argument out of nothing. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - The Japanese are like,

- It's that Simpsons picture where like the people are surrounding the two monkeys fighting. That's the Japanese watching anime fans argue about if this is anime or not. - Yeah, it just felt like we were like, this is how all religious fighting started way back in like the 100th century. We just made an argument out of nothing. - Yeah, because I mean, fucking you ask a Japanese person, "Monster Zinc, Shrek, it's all anime." - It's just crazy to me. - 'Cause in Japan, anime just means animation. - I've never just had like,

I got hit by a truck when he said Despicable Me was an anime. It hit me, man. It hit me real like, fuck. I was like, this man's built different saying that. - It would have been a different story if it was like the minions of my waifu. Like that would have been different. - Dude, I don't know why they're obsessed with minions here. - They're obsessed with minions in Japan. It's fucking everywhere. - I hate it.

- So we visited Joey's new apartment like last week. - Yeah. - And Joey's- - Just a slight detour. - Yeah, just a slight detour. It will get back on topic because he was showing us around and he shows us into the last room and he's like, "Oh, do you guys want a free gift?" I was given a free gift from the moving department. "Do you guys want it?" And we're like, "Sure Joey, what is it?"

- Deadass just brings out this massive minions mini fridge and expects us to take it. And he takes this thing out and we're just looking at Joey being like, "Joey, what do we wanna do with this? What are we gonna do with this?" And he was like,

maybe we can put it in the Trash Taste Studio. Like Joey, the Trash Taste Studio isn't your dumping ground. I have a gift is roughly translated to, I need to get rid of my trash. Please take it. I will pay money. 'Cause that's, I guarantee that's what they did to Joey. They were like, Joey, Joe, I know we're moving all this stuff for you, but here, have a free gift. Have a Minions mini fridge. And they're like, thank God we finally got rid of that shit.

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- Yeah, I am actually. That is like one that I saw little bits and pieces of it. I mean, I knew of it because our boy Kev. - Our boy Kevin is doing the soundtrack. - Shout out to our boy. - We're just simping. All right. - I'm pretty excited for it.

it's one of those things that wasn't really on my radar massively. It was just like, I know Kevin's doing the soundtrack. I'm probably gonna watch so I can be like, great job, Kevin. - Yeah, I wasn't excited until I saw the clips that we were shown, which is by the time this podcast comes out, the entire series would have already been released. But from the clips that we were shown, I was genuinely like surprised how excited for this I was. I wasn't that excited before because I didn't really know what it was about or how good it was gonna be. All I know was the names involved

what stood out to me was of course, Kevin doing the soundtrack. So of course I was always going to watch it, but then the cast list got released and people like David Tennant are in it, Neil Patrick Harris. I was like, what is going on? - I love having Smurfs.

- My favorite movie. - Yeah, it looks really good. I mean, the clips we saw as well, the animation looked really fucking good for them. Like the way they matched the 3D with the amazing 2D backgrounds, fucking amazing. And again, the music was just fucking banging. I don't know what else to say. I kind of want to just wait until I watch it. I don't want to get too hyped for it just in case, but it looks good.

- It looked good. - I mean, it's literally out this week. - Is it really? - Yeah. - I feel like it's gonna be a seven out of 10 for me. - Really? - I feel, I get that vibe. - Maybe, maybe. - I get that vibe. - It depends because it depends if it's like how it's going to play out, whether it's gonna be one long series, 'cause it's a four episode series. So is it going to be only four episodes or is it gonna be like kind of like a movie mini series kind of thing? That's what I wanna know. - I'm hoping it fucks me up, you know, makes me very emotional. But I have a feeling that it'll play up really safe. It's gonna be quite like a safe story.

- I just got that vibe from the clips we watched. So we'll see. - I got that vibe. - I wanna be pleasantly surprised. - I got that vibe that I was gonna feel things by the end of it. - Yeah, the same way I did in the end of "Monsters Inc."

- What are you talking about? - Well, when they finally, you know, they got rid of Randall, that rascal. - And they say goodbye to Boo. - Yeah, they say goodbye. - Monsters Inc is a great movie. - No, it wasn't. That's a terrible example. - I was just like, if it's anything like Monsters Inc, I'm gonna be happy as fuck. - I'm only thinking of great movies right now. I was about to say The Incredibles. I'm like, no, that's fantastic.

- I feel like these are the movies that have just been memed so much that you forget. - That they're actually bangers. - That they're actually really good fucking movies. Why is it so hard to think of sub-par movies? - Like the ending of "Mulan 2" straight to DVD. - I did not even watch that. - I haven't watched it either. - I didn't even know there was a "Mulan 2." - There's a "Mulan 2" straight to DVD. But the point is that I feel like it,

Again, I want it to be a super emotional fucks me up, but I just kind of got the feeling it looked pretty safe. But again, I hope it does.

- I'm just wondering because it was a Netflix adaptation, was it cast first in English or was it dubbed first in English? Because that's what really- - I thought it was an original story. - I have a feeling it might have been cast first in English. - Yeah, because these are some big fucking names to put behind an anime. And you don't normally see these names unless it's like a Ghibli movie where Disney is dubbing it, right? So that's what I'm most interested about. 'Cause we talked about how

in which order it gets dubbed really does I feel affects how a dub feels. - Well, it depends.

well, what language is the script written in? - Yeah, exactly. - That's the big question. 'Cause you can't really write two scripts simultaneously that are like one to one. - Yeah. - So it's- - Especially when it comes to like English and Japanese where it's like fundamentally different. - Yeah, where the sentence structure is opposite at times. - Yeah. I think the more I learned Japanese, the more I appreciate what translators have to do. And especially when it comes to localizing a dub, by the same time, the more I understand Japanese, the more I'm just like,

- Man, this just doesn't give like, I get the localization thing, but there's just sometimes a sentence just doesn't give me the same feeling when I'm reading in English versus hearing it in Japanese.

- Yeah, I think this is why when you first start out as an anime fan and you really start to get into it, you got this thing where you're like, I only want pure 100% translation. That's all I want. Don't fucking, don't you dare change any of the meanings of the words. - Right. - I think when you get into it more and you start watching a lot more anime and then it becomes a bit tedious to watch a bit anime and you just kind of want to watch it dubbed, you kind of start to appreciate it when they just localize it

and they do it well. - Yeah. - Well, it's also the fact that sometimes there are just some phrases and like meanings that just don't translate at all. - Right, again, I mean, like one of the best dubs of all time, Baccano. Like there's a lot of,

that were just like changed to an extent where it's not even remotely what the guy said, but it's the same. - It makes sense contextually. - Yeah, it's the same kind of feeling, but instead of playing it super safe, they were like, no, no, we think we could improve this for an English audience, which is a bold thing to do. We've had a lot of failures.

We've had a lot of things that have gone wrong. - A lot of questionable ones. - But I do really appreciate when it's done right. And I appreciate it more so than an attempted translation 'cause I feel like the actors have a way harder time delivering Japanese dialogue, essentially. I mean, that's what they do. - Yeah, because it's really hard to also perform directly translated to Japanese dialogue to make it sound natural in English. Because there's just sometimes where it's like, that doesn't sound like something someone would say in English.

- I especially felt that more when I, 'cause when I did a bit of translation work during school and stuff like that, and I learned linguistics and stuff, that's where I was like, because I also used to be like, how hard could it be just direct translating, you know? To get the meaning across. But then when I actually started doing it, I was like,

"Oh no, you just can't." It's not a matter of like preference or anything like that. It's just like, you physically can't. There were just some Japanese ways of saying things that were just like, if I did directly translate it, it would just be a bunch of words. - Yeah. - That don't mean anything. - I think 'cause I don't know if, even though I spoke two languages from birth, I always thought as languages like,

they're all just the same thing, just said in different ways. But then like, if that makes sense, where everything can be one-to-one translated. - I get what you mean. - Every meaning can be expressed in another language. - Yeah, absolutely. - And I think 'cause we've been spoiled, 'cause things have been a whole life, we've just,

had things that have been translated. - English, so we never know what the other side is like. - It's English, it's been translated for us. And even again, even though I spoke two languages, I could never wrap my head around this concept until I started learning Japanese. Where I was like, oh, it's just like,

it's like another planet where it hasn't even touched anything. I don't know how to describe this like mental- - It's so hard to describe for someone who only speaks one language, right? 'Cause I remember the first time I noticed this was I was watching a Thai film with Sydney, right? And she obviously had English subtitles on and as someone who speaks both Thai and can read English, it was really distracting one because

it felt like I was hearing something and seeing something and they both meant the same thing, but they felt different for me. It's this language dissonance that I can't quite describe. But it's something that I think I feel like having now trying to learn the language that,

part of a culture and part of like an entire country's, you know, way of thinking and culture is just ingrained into a language. It's just so much deeper than just I say one thing and means another thing. Like I would say that depending on what language I speak, my personality kind of shifts as well because it's a different kind of way of thinking when you're speaking another language. It's...

It's so hard to describe for anyone who only speaks one language, but anyone who does speak two languages will probably understand that you probably have a slightly different personality speaking one language compared to another because- - I apparently have a completely different personality when I speak Japanese compared to English. - You're a lot softer, I'd say. - Yeah, yeah, you're a lot softer. - What, in English or Japanese? - Japanese. - Really? - I think so.

- I always thought it was the opposite. - I don't know, maybe, I don't know. Maybe that's just a surface level, I don't know. But like, I also realized as well, 'cause you know, sometimes you're in class or whatever, you're asking, "Oh, how do I say this in Japanese?" Like, no, you can't say that in Japanese. It doesn't exist in Japanese. It's not a concept. They've never thought of that. - Oh God, you just fucking flashback to me in school, everyone being like, "How do you say fucking Japanese?"

- Okay, how do I explain these things? - Yeah, and then I realized because Welsh and English, because although they are entirely different languages and everyone thinks, oh, they're just, oh, Welsh is just another version of English. It's like completely different. - But you're in the UK, an English speaking country. - Like German is closer to English than Welsh is. And it's the reason why I think that I never had this realization before was because

it's the culture that you grew up in. And because the countries have a similar culture now, at least in the modern day, the concepts do sort of translate because we've made them translate. Like we've made the concepts are felt by both. - There isn't like the cultural gap. - Right, right. Because the cultural gap is like inherently there's just sayings and stuff that will never ever have a meaning no matter how much you try and translate them. Because it's just an inherent, it's a feeling and it's a, I don't know, this is just a weird,

the concept that we're going down and it seems so obvious. - None of us are linguists. This is all just our thoughts from learning a different language from speaking multiple languages. But I think the best thought experiment I can think of is like anyone who speaks English, like how would you explain the concept of the word fuck to someone who doesn't speak English and then someone who didn't grow up here?

That's like, I don't even know where I would begin to start. Like if you didn't, if you don't know, like, you know, if you didn't grow up in the culture, if you didn't grow up with people saying it around you, hearing that word everywhere, I'm just like, how do I explain the right way to use the word fuck? - I mean, I literally made a video because they made an entire textbook purely for the word fuck.

It's like a 70 page textbook that goes through all the different ways you can use font. And like, I thought it was a gag at first when I bought it, but then when I actually started reading, I was like, okay, that's how you explain it. Apparently there is a way to explain it. It just takes 70 pages. - And the fact that it takes 70 pages just shows how complicated it is, even though for us, it's just second nature and it just makes sense, right? - And like the opposite can be said for like Japanese to English, right? Like how do you explain to an English speaker what means?

- It's a purely cultural thing that like it makes complete sense in Japanese. But then every time, like every time in anime, they say like, "Yoroshiku", there's always a different way that someone's translating. - It's a different way to translate depending on the context of the scene, right? Or the context of what he's saying. - Like saying, "I guess so." Like, "Oh, I guess so." It's like, it's not a thing in Japanese. You can't translate it. Even in Welsh, it's not a thing. Like it's such an English thing that,

'cause none of the words mean what they mean altogether. It's a weird concept that we just make up. We do that with a lot. - I find that shit fascinating, dude. - Bussin'. - Bussin'. - Bussin'. - Bussin'. - Fuck, who the fuck is that? - I literally just learned that word today. Man, I can't even keep up with my own language. How the fuck are Japanese people meant to keep up with my language? Right? - Bussin'. - But going back to anime. - Yeah, going back to anime. - Again, I appreciate what you're saying so much more.

I watched like two episodes of Yasuke. That was pretty good. The voice acting I really enjoyed. - I need to watch that as well. - From two episodes, I wasn't really sold on the story. Again, I knew about the, if you don't know about Yasuke, the plot is essentially Nobunaga way back in the Edo period.

had just met a black guy at a market and was like, I want him to fight for me. - Based on a real person as well. - And was one of his closest allies, I guess. And the story kind of expands on it. But I saw a bunch of this on YouTube. And I thought this would be a fucking bad-ass anime. Shit you not like two weeks later got announced on Netflix. And I was like, wow, I guess I should start wishing for things.

- Yeah. - It was really, I highly encourage you to go read up about it. It's super interesting and you just wouldn't expect it. - It's also done by LaShawn Thomas. - LaShawn Thomas. - Yeah, it's done by LaShawn Thomas. - I don't know who the animation studio is. - Mappet. - Oh, is it Mappet? - But I do think that,

if you wanna learn, this is not like the best at explaining, at least from the first two episodes, I was like, this is wildly different from- - You said there was like magic. - There's magic, there's mechs and stuff. And it's like- - I'm like, I'm pretty sure that didn't exist in feudal Japan. - Well, yeah, I mean- - That was literally Sean Thomas going, fuck it. - Well, yeah, I get it. You're an animal. Go crazy with it. But in some aspects, I'm also like, this is such a fucking badass story by itself.

it doesn't need anything added. It's so God, like the best parts of like, again, I've only watched two out of six, the best parts, the first two episodes where the parts were like,

'cause there's a time skip, pre time skip where there's like no magic or shit where he's just fighting sword to sword and it's just man to man combat. It's so goddamn good and the story and it builds on all the obviously because back then, there'd be a lot of issues with race with that stuff. - Yeah, of course. - They weren't too happy about it when Nobunaga was like, "This is my best friend."

And building on that was so interesting. And I thought like the best parts of anime were that. And again, yeah, the story is just so cool. Like go and read up about it. There's tons of YouTube videos about it. - I actually went and like fucking researched. - It's so fucking cool. - The real life Yasuke just 'cause like I had no fucking idea. - It's a bad ass story. - Oh yeah, it's fucking bad ass. It's like, it's so bizarre that it could be fictional. - Do you feel like the mech and magic aspects added to that story or do you think it felt out of place? - For me personally, I didn't really enjoy it.

I was hoping it was gonna be- - You just wanted the pure- - The story of Yasuke. - You wanted like a Samurai Champloo style like story, right? - Kind of, yeah. But then again- - Is that historically accurate? - No, not at all. - Well, I mean, there were- - There were break dancing samurai back in the- - There weren't magic and mechs in Samurai Champloo. - Again, the music in the first two episodes is pretty fucking good.

- It's pretty fucking good. - Yeah, exactly. - It's really good. The voice acting, top fucking notch. Even the Japanese is really good. And like, you know, even in the Japanese, Yasuke is played by a black Japanese guy, which is insane to see. - That's awesome. - It's normally not on the priority list for Japanese. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - You know, it's really cool seeing that, you know? Why wouldn't you want that?

Yeah, I mean everything else about it, I was digging. I haven't really been motivated to watch the rest of it. I think that's just 'cause the max thing is gonna put me off and the magic and stuff. - I mean the short clips I watched of it was, I didn't realize it was gonna be that bloody and gory as well. - Dude, it's good. - Some of the scenes reminded me of a 90s OVA, like Ninja Scroll. - It was like Kill Bill at some point. - Yeah, it was like Kill Bill, Ninja Scroll, like levels of like, oh, oh, that's brutal.

- Oh, that's brutal. - It's so good. - I love it. - Yeah. - Yeah, I still haven't seen it, but I- - Oh, yeah, check it out. You'll know if- - I will definitely check it out. - You'll know if it's for you in the first two episodes. - 'Cause I really liked the Sean Thomas's work anyway, so I was gonna watch it. It's just hard to find time with all the fucking anime are in the season and everything, right? Which you two don't know about. - I can't relate. - I've been meaning to watch a bunch. I've been meaning to watch 86. - 86 is actually really, really good. - Yeah, I wish I was meaning to watch.

- I'd probably say that's my favorite. Oh, I can't say favorite. It's hard. It's definitely top three of my favorite anime out this season right now. And it just feels good to have an original mecha show that just gives me the same feeling as like some of the OG mecha shows that made me really, really like the genre. 'Cause it feels like it's been so long since we've just had a non-Gundam, non-code gear or non-big franchise mecha show that has actually been really, really good.

'Cause most of the mecha shows I remember that's been coming out recently have either been like Darling in the Franks where I get invested and it kind of does shit that falls flat or like I really enjoyed- - And then Trigger is like, let me introduce you. - Or then you've had things like SSS Gridman,

fucking amazing show, but it's like, it's a mecha show, but it's also a bit tokusatsu. So it's not like, it's like, it's like a crossbreed. - It's not like a vanilla mecha show, right? - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Vanilla mecha show. - Vanilla mecha, where it's just mecha and that's it, yeah. - Yeah, but 86, you know, gives me the same feelings of when I first watched Code Geass, Eureka Seven, all the mechs that I watched in the mid 2000s that really made me love the fucking genre. It's still early days. I don't know if it's gonna be like 24 episodes or 12 episodes, whether it's gonna be a complete

I'm really hoping so, but it's just really, really good. I mean, do you know the story of it at all? - I don't want to know anything. All I've heard is it's good and I'm gonna watch it. - Just going to a blind is the best way, I think. - I watched "The Way of the Husband" on Netflix as well. - "The House Husband." - That's it, yeah. - I enjoyed it a lot. I thought it was very funny. I haven't had an anime made me laugh out loud constantly. - It's funny. - It's hilarious. - For like two hours.

I thought it was gonna be like 10 episodes, 24 minutes, but it's like five episodes of like 12, 15 minutes. - Yeah, I only saw three episodes. I was like, I got the rest of the season to binge. I didn't know it was only five episodes. - It's five episodes. - Yeah. - Okay. - I kinda, it kinda sucked that it literally just like, it was just ended.

It was like, this is the last skit. It's done, bye bye. And then it was like, there was no ending or anything. It wasn't like, see you next time or anything. It was just like, okay, skid over, go the fuck home. Get out of here. Go watch something else. - 'Cause each of the chapters in the manga are really, really short. They're like maybe like five, six pages, like max. - Well, I thought the pacing was fantastic. I know obviously it caused a lot of controversy with the animation. I saw a lot of people complaining on Twitter.

- I couldn't decide. I flip flopped. There was some sketches where I felt they did it really good. And there was some where I'm like, holy fuck, this was so lazily done. And it depended on the sketch. - Well, I think it just went down to the classification. 'Cause I think we've briefly talked about this in "Trash Taste After Dark." But like my opinion of it was that it's not so much an anime in the traditional sense where it's basically just a motion comic. It is just a motion comic. - I wish it was labeled that and advertised as that.

- Yeah. - Instead of the anime adaptation. - Yeah, but I feel if you've labeled it as motion comic adaptation, then I think less people would have been interested in it, right? Unfortunately. - Yeah, unfortunately. - True, but then also you set this expectation that this is gonna be a thing that might happen. - Yeah, 'cause I feel like it was that and it being on Netflix as well, Netflix really picking this up, which gave it like people preconceived expectations. 'Cause to me, I watched it, I thought it was funny as fuck. I thought the animation worked for some of the jokes. - Again, like it's up there with like,

I thought it was just as funny as like Sakamoto for me, if not funnier. Like it was so goddamn funny and it scratched that itch that I didn't know I was longing for. Every single episode I was fucking cackling, laughing out loud. - It's like that weird surrealist comedy, right? - It's so good. - You just don't know what he's gonna say next, what's gonna happen right now. - And every time you feel like you figured out how absurd he is, he just does something else. You're like, this is just fucking funny.

If you haven't watched it, please go watch it. It's just about like a Yakuza member who gets married and straightens out and has become a housewife, house husband. And yeah, it's just really funny. But it would have been a nine or a 10 for me. Again, I don't know if I don't really like the motion comic style. - Do you think it would have been funnier with say just mediocre adaptation?

- Honestly, yeah. - Mediocre animation, sorry. - Genuinely, yeah. 'Cause there was so little animation on it anyway. And there's just times I'm like, I wish they did a little bit on this just to help sell the joke. - I feel like the lack of animation helps sell some jokes, if anything. - I agree, I agree. - Just because some of it just looked ridiculous. And that to me just made it more funny. - But imagine this anime in like Nichijou style. - Yeah, but like name another comedy anime that's on Nichijou level.

- There isn't, but I'm just saying like, if you had the choice. - No, if I had the choice between that, I'd always go for fucking Nichijou animation, even like Konosuba animation, right? 'Cause Konosuba, I think a lot of people underestimate how good the character animation in Konosuba is. That really sold so much of the voice acting performance

where a lot of other comedy anime I feel have fallen flat because you have amazing voice acting performance, you have amazing source material and the animation is just like the most- - Okay. - Okay animation that really does nothing to enhance the source material. - Yeah, maybe I'm being too hard on it, I don't know. I think I was just shocked at how little there was. - Yeah, whereas with "Way of the House Husband" it had amazing voice acting, obviously it had amazing source material. And I feel like because they didn't try, it kind of like suited that comedy style perfectly.

And I feel like to me, if you couldn't have amazing animation, I would have preferred to have it have like just not even like bad animation, just like a very unique style of limited animation that really helps sell some of the weirder and more ridiculous parts of the manga. 'Cause it is a ridiculous manga. And I feel like the animation style helped accentuate some of the ridiculous moments to me. - Yeah, there's some moments where I was like, yeah, okay, this joke works with this animation. There's others where I'm like, this really needed more.

to help sell some of this joke. I don't know that personally. - I feel like maybe a mix could have like really, really propelled it. - Have you seen clips of the, there's a Japanese live action adaptation. - I have not. - Have you seen this? - I have not. - It's so bad. It's so funny. It's like,

It's tragic. - Wait, what's that, describe it to me. - It's just like, okay, the main guy, it looks like a cosplay. It doesn't look like- - It is a cosplay. - Yeah, like it looks like a cosplay, not like an actual actor or anything. Like the guy isn't like built enough. It was quite scary. - It is like "Full Metal Alchemist" live action levels. - And then his friend in the anime who is really young and supposed to be like the young gang member looks really fucking old.

- I mean, I didn't watch it like fully. I only watched like clips of it on YouTube and I was like, oh no. - It's bad. 'Cause I watched the same skit, both of them compared. The humor just wasn't there.

nearly as good in the live action. I don't know why, I feel like they didn't, 'cause with animation you can really sell the absurdity and in the live action. - That's the point, right? - Yeah, but they didn't work very well. - Yeah, yeah. I feel like- - And also Japanese acting and TV shows, I don't know how they are so bad.

but I've never seen Japanese acting in a TV show and been like, that's fantastic. - Unless it's like Ken Watanabe. - Literally, he's the only one. I feel bad saying that 'cause I feel like there's such a broad statement, but I've watched so much Japanese TV and all the drama acting is appalling. - Yeah, it's not good. - It's so bad. - Yeah, especially in like the live action, like especially when a live action anime adaptation of a Japanese TV show or a Japanese anime, it's always,

- It's so weird seeing live action actors try to act like anime characters or doing like the anime style acting. - 'Cause you watch like Korean dramas and Korean adaptations of stuff and it's so much better. I watched like "Sweet Home"

the Webtoon adaptation into Netflix. And the actors were fucking amazing in it. - Was it a live action adaptation? - It was a live action. And the actors are really fucking good. Like every single time I've watched a Korean movie or Korean drama, I'm always so impressed at how fucking good, not the saying that the acting isn't bad,

I just thought for some reason, I'm like, oh, I've seen Japanese acting. It's gonna be over the top dramatic all the time. - I feel like especially in recent years, Korean movies and Korean dramas and shows have just like, they are way ahead of like Japanese J dramas and J movies. - I mean, so many movies where I'm like fucking, compared to English, it like shits on them.

Like some of the, like "Oldboy" is like, I love that movie. - Fucking, that's actually based on a manga, did you know? - I didn't know that. - Oh really? - Yeah, "Oldboy" was originally a manga. That got adapted into a Korean movie. - Oh, that's cool. - That movie is like one of my favorite movies of all time. The acting is so goddamn good in that movie. I fucking love it. - The cinematography is fantastic in that. - That's one of the greatest foreign films of all time. - It's so good.

- It's up there with like "Parasite" is like, to me, it's one of the best Korean movies I've seen. Even though I've seen a lot, there are so many good Korean movies, right? And I feel like people are now just,

figuring out that man, Koreans make good movies. They make- - Oh yeah, they're very good. - Train to Busan as well. I remember the first time- - Oh, that's a fantastic movie. - I remember the first time watching Train to Busan, I was like, I've seen zombie movies. I know how this works. And for some reason it didn't do like, on paper, it doesn't do that much different to every other zombie movie, but it's just so fucking good. And I can't pinpoint why it was so good, but it's just- - I don't know what it is. Like when I watch Japanese TV, I feel like it's like a pantomime. You know what I mean?

It does feel like it feels like that level of acting where it's like, is there somebody behind me? I better not look. And then it's like, - I feel like with Japanese acting, it's very reminiscent to anime or anime acting, which anime acting works for anime, but it doesn't work for live action acting at all. - Yeah, well, I was asking some friends. I'm like, oh, I was like, 'cause I was watching with them. Like, oh, are they famous? Are they famous? They're like, oh yeah, they're a famous voice actor.

And it's like when you're a famous voice actor, you can get roles in TV shows. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - It's kind of strange 'cause it's normally the other way around with Western stuff. And it's just odd to think, 'cause I feel like as someone who does voice acting, it does not translate to the like IRL acting. - It's a completely different skillset. - Well, yeah, I mean,

you understand the fundamentals of acting, but can you hit the mark? You're not being told how to walk. You're not being told how to act physically. That's what you do have to learn. That is separate. - There's a lot you don't think about. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's interesting. I just wonder why. I sit there and I'm just confused. I'm like, why is Japanese acting generally not as good? Not saying that there's no, there's zero Japanese good actors. Just saying in general, the TV production,

is pretty lackluster. - I think maybe it's because like they don't really think of like the outs, like outside of Japan movie industry as much of a competition. Like they might think it's like, because you know, with like, you know, Hollywood films or like English speaking films, right? Like you're not only competing with Hollywood, but you're competing with literally every other English speaking country, right? Every other English speaking production. Whereas I feel the Japanese film industry is kind of in its own bubble.

- No driving force. - There's no like driving force or like threat to make them be like, we got to step up our game. Or maybe the fact that like, they're probably like just unaware. They probably just think like, well, English speaking productions and like other productions that aren't Japanese do this in this way.

But for us, this works with our type of audience. So there's no like, they probably don't even think this is bad acting. - I'm sure people are gonna come up and be like, "There are so many good Japanese films." - There are a lot of good Japanese films. - I've watched a fuck ton. - But it's a lot rarer to find a really, really good Japanese film. - They come far and few in between. - And especially in like J-dramas, I feel. - J-dramas is even hot. - Holy fuck, I mean, that's where you really see the pinnacle.

- I feel like the right way to describe J-dramas from like the majority I've watched is just, they are very campy. - Yeah, that's what I mean. - It's very campy. - It's a pantomime, right? - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Everything is fucking over the top. - It's so campy. And you know, there's an audience for that. And there's like a, you know, there's, you know, I do enjoy some J-dramas, but it's less of, I think this is a good show and more just like, I can just get behind this show. You know, I like whatever source material is adapting.

And also I don't, frankly, I don't give a fuck about cinematography. I don't really care too much. I'm not very picky. - Well, that's good because J-drama has zero cinematography. - Well, J-dramas, they shoot it like a fucking, like a daytime TV commercial. Why does it look like that?

Like I never thought I would give a shit about that until I watched "Jade's The Dreamer". - But that's the point. You don't give a shit about cinematography until you see something that has no cinematography, right? - It's like, what are you gonna fucking advertise me a plunger that does four in one any second now? I'm waiting for it because of how it's shot. It's ridiculous. I don't know why it looks like that. It's so weird. - Yeah, I feel like I've seen some YouTube videos with better cinematography than some of the stuff out there in "Jade's The Dreamer" right now.

- Yeah, 100%. - That'll make Chris's day. - That'll make up for the lack of his signature. - Yeah, I mean, I hate shitting on it 'cause I don't really know. I don't really understand why. I don't really know if they care. I don't really know if there's a want to improve. - I just genuinely- - I just don't think the audience is there. - No, the audience doesn't give a shit. - Well, it's normal.

the majority of the population he was older. - To be fair, I have seen a bunch of J-dramas where the cinematography is absolute ass, but I've still enjoyed it because the story was just genuinely really, really good. And it wasn't until like, it was like an afterthought of like, oh yeah, that was a good J-drama.

but the cinematography was shit. - I saw this one and it was like, I think it was like a James Bond show. And it was like this Japanese guy looked like Japanese George Clooney. It was really cool. - Really? - I was like, holy shit, this guy's hot. - I think I know who you're talking about actually. - You know what I'm talking about? - Yeah, he looks kind of Western, right? - He looks Western, but I looked it up and he's 100% Japanese.

- Yeah, yeah, yeah. - But he looks like George Clooney if he was Japanese. - I think I know who you're talking about. I don't know his name, but. - And he was just like a no nonsense attitude guy. He's like, "I'm coming to get the information." And just like beat this guy up. But with just terrible lighting and cinematography. But it was like really, I don't know why I'm talking about this. I was just fascinated by him. I was like, "That man's so goddamn hot. Good for him." I wish I was that hot. - Because I've had like the movie experience of, "Wow, this movie has fucking fantastic cinematography."

Unfortunately, the rest of the movie is shit. - What was that movie? It was the something still water or something where it's like,

- No, no. It was originally supposed to be the Bioshock movie, but then they like changed it halfway through. - What? - I do not know. - I have no idea. - Yeah, let me look it up. I know exactly what it is. But like the movie had like the most like amazing fucking cinematography. It looked fucking incredible. Like it was stylized perfectly, really creepy cinematography. - Look it up. - Yeah. - Look it up. - Yeah, I mean- - Remember, "A Cure for Wellness." - I haven't seen that movie.

- Yeah, there was a movie. - Oh, that's a horror movie. - Yeah, the horror movie. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - "A Cure for Wellness." That was, apparently, that was originally supposed to be the "BioShock" movie. And you can tell- - It was nothing like "BioShock." - Yeah, no, obviously. They completely changed the story once that- - That threw me off when you said it's meant to be the "BioShock" movie. - Supposedly, it was supposed to be the "BioShock" movie, but then something happened legality-wise and they were like, "All right, time to rewrite the story completely." But like,

when you just look at the cinematography and like the sets and stuff like that, I'm like, okay, I can kind of see what they were going for. Like this looks cool, it's very stylized, cinematography is great. Unfortunately, the story was like, what? Like what the fuck is happening? Nothing makes sense. Characters were all shit. So like,

That's when I got to the point I was like, would I have preferred this movie if it had shit cinematography but a good story versus great cinematography but a shit story. - And this is like the animation versus story debate that anime fans go through, right? - Like which do you prefer? If you had to choose. - Story, story. - But it has to be well acted. You can't sell me on a bad story with actors who don't sell the moment for you. - The room is pretty good.

- The room is pretty good. - I mean, that's a masterpiece in its own sense. - That's a unique exception. - But that's got brilliant acting. I don't know what you're talking about.

- Yeah, yeah, yeah. - What a top grade actor he is, Tommy Wiseau. - Yeah, I mean, no, 'cause like, I feel like, I guess watching a lot of J-Dramas reminds me of like the old Thai soap operas I would see my mom watching and I'm just like, what the fuck is this mom? Like, what the hell are you watching? I feel like that's- - The Indian shows as well. - Yeah, I feel like that's just a genre of it.

of itself where you got like the campiest most melodrama shit going on. You don't know what's going on. You see out of context clips. I think even some Korean dramas do this as well. It's just not as well known. Like I remember seeing one clip where it was a Korean drama and- - One where he's falling down the stairs. - No, that's the Bollywood one, right? - I think that's the Bollywood one. - That's the Indian one. - The one I was thinking of where this woman, this guy says something and this woman takes this entire like fucking cabbage

of kimchi, I just slapped this guy. And I just like, I just want to know the context of this. - That's so good. - 'Cause our context, it just makes no sense as it is. - We just have to remind our audience that this is a Korean production. - Bring out the kimchi.

- Didn't PewDiePie react to like a Bollywood clip and then there was like drama or something about it? - Was there? - I swear there was drama. I don't know if man, if I'm remembering this incorrectly, but like he, there was like a clip that he reacted to and it was 'cause there was like a reaction image where she was like, and then it was like 20 shots of it going.

- Yeah, it's the woman falling off like the balustrade. - Oh, I've seen that one. - And the guy's like slow motion trying to catch him. But like, it's like going back and forth. And it's like, this woman's been in the air for five minutes. It's a second floor. - This woman's like literally fucking

air bending one for my eyes. Everyone's just like watching it in slow motion. It's fucking hilarious. I love that. - I swear she got into some spat or something because of it. You keep talking. - Yeah, yeah. No, that's why I would love to react to Indian like soap operas out of context. I feel like there's every other soap opera and then there's just Indian soap opera. - Oh yeah. They take campiness to the next level and it's so amazing.

- Have you ever seen like many Bollywood movies? - There was a period in my life where I tried to get into Bollywood movies, but the problem is that there are so many fucking films in the Bollywood scene. - I didn't realize how many movies they made. - It's like they make like fucking like five, 10 times as much as like Hollywood. - Yeah, something like that. - It's insane. - It's insane. - So I'm just like, I legitimately was like,

where the fuck do I even begin? 'Cause like, I don't know anybody else who like has stepped into that territory. So like my only other option was to like go on the internet and be like best Hollywood movies. - Top 10 Bollywood films of all time. - Top 10 Bollywood films of all time. - Thank you WatchMojo, here's my watch list right now. - But then every fucking like top 10, top 50 list I saw was just like all completely, there wasn't a single like entry where it was like, oh, I saw that on this page. It's all fucking different. So I'm like,

- Number one, Slumdog Millionaire. - Do I literally just have to like... That's a great movie though. - I remember when I came out, people were like, "Yeah, I like Bollywood." - Slumdog Millionaire. - It's good. - Yeah, so I'm like, do I just have to like bite the ball and just like pick a random one and just like hope that it's a good movie?

- I don't know. - Yeah, I don't know. - Please let us know in the comments, what's a good Bollywood film? - The only one I can remember that I watched that I think is really good is a film called "Three Idiots." And the only reason I watched it was 'cause it was on the IMDB top 100 at the time. I was like, what is this? And it's a concept I feel like that was made for Indians, right? 'Cause it's a film, get this, about engineers.

- I think it was like actual, I can't remember if they were mechanical engineers or electrical engineers. - It doesn't matter, they were engineers. - It was just so weird seeing this engineering movie and then out of nowhere, they just break out into song and dance. - There's nothing I hate more than fucking musicals. I cannot stand- - You don't like musicals? - I hate musicals. - I actually agree.

- Really? - Yeah. - It's like, if I want a musical, I'll fucking pause the movie and go on Spotify and play "Death Punk" for four minutes and I'll play it. I don't get in the way, man. I hate musicals so goddamn much. I cannot, I would rather do anything else. - I'm like, I'm very hit or miss with musicals.

Like a lot of musicals I'm just like fucking whatever. But then if you're like, like I could watch like Rocky horror, like 30 times. - I feel like to me musical works well on like when it's a stage, you know, when it's when you're watching it live, it's a really, really amazing experience. Like I remember watching Les Miserables. I'm sure I've fucking butchered that for now. - Les Miserables. - Les Miserables. I remember watching that in England at the West End. Fucking amazing experience.

And then I remember watching the movie and I'm just like, this is really boring. I don't know. - I watched it for the first time 'cause like pretty recently just 'cause Aki was like, oh, you have to watch it. It's great. I'm just like, okay, well, you know, I always give musicals a go. So it's whatever. This might be the rare time where like Rocky Horror where it's like, oh, am I fucking fall in love with it? I'm just like.

God damn, they haven't stopped singing for like two hours. - It just feels like a fucking quick time event. Like when we run a musical, it's like, "All right, I guess I'll press X. Fuck, I'll press X." It just feels like it doesn't fucking end. It's like unskippable cut scenes and shit. It's like, "Get this shit out of here." - Well, what I like about like Rocky Horror, for instance, right, is that like one, it's fucking weird. Two, it's fucking Tim Curry in like leggings, which is just like amazing, just conceptually. But like what I like about Rocky Horror compared to like say like Les Miserables is like,

"Late Miserable" is just like 90% singing and then 10% dialogue. Whereas "Rocky Horror" is like 50/50. So it's like you get the enjoyment of like an actual movie like type of story. And then every now and then it goes into like song. - But when I'm watching a musical, I'm just like, just get to the story. Why am I here? I don't care about the song and dance. Just get to the story. Give me the story. - The only time I actually think I liked musical was

- What is it? It's a little shop of horrors, right? That has like a lot of music in it. The one with the big plant. - Oh yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. - That's musical, right? - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - I think I liked that 'cause it made the thing fucking terrifying when it started singing. I was like, it sold me on the horror. 'Cause when this giant plant puppet started singing, I was getting fucked as like a 15 year old kid. I was like, holy shit. - It's like the kind of like jazzy style, like yeah. - I was like, oh my God, that's terrifying.

- Did you ever watch "Bugs Me Alone" as a kid? - What? - "Bugs Me Alone"? - I know the name. I don't know anything about it though. - Yeah, I can't remember 'cause I only have vivid memories of watching it as a kid. All I know it was like, it's like set in like, you know, in the prohibition era and it's about a bunch of people running speakeasies. But for some reason, everyone, every one of the gangsters who are in this movie, everyone's played by kids.

And when they have Tommy guns, instead of firing bullets, they fire like a cream pie. So whenever someone gets hit by cream pie in the face, they're dead. It's like thinking back as a kid, it's the most like, this is the weirdest fever dream I'm describing right now, but it exists. It sounds like a David Lynch film. It's like that weird. - It sounds like on the same level as this. What are those fucking dogs called? The movies where they just dub over dogs.

- What? - It's literally like AirBuddy or some shit. It's like a whole fucking series. - Oh, like snow dogs. - That's it, yeah. - Like that level, right? - It sounds like that where they just fucking dub over dogs doing shit. I go, what the fuck, dude? Oh my God. - But I've been trying to find someone else in my life who also has this vivid memory of watching "Bugs and Me Alone" as a kid. 'Cause I just want to reconfirm that I- - That this was real. - That this was real. - It really happened. I just need to know, okay? And so far,

I've, you know, maybe it was just my school thing. Maybe it was a my generation thing. I don't know, but I have not met a single other person IRL who remembers watching Bugs Me Alone. So please comment section, if there's someone in the comment section who knows and who has watched Bugs Me Alone before, please, please tell me. 'Cause I need to know I'm not fucking crazy. I need to know this wasn't a fever dream. I need to know if this really happened. - Everyone in the comments just be like, I have no idea. I have no idea what you're talking about.

- It was a musical, so. - It's a musical as well? - Yeah, that's why I remember that it was a musical. - I sleep. - Real question though, did you guys watch the cats movie? - No, I didn't. - I saw half of it. - Why did you watch it? - 'Cause I was just like, 'cause I, who doesn't look at that trailer and thinks,

"This looks like shit, I'm gonna watch it." - You know when you just see ads so often for something that you've decided that you're gonna dislike this thing before you even see anything? That was me with Cats, 'cause it was just everywhere. It was so obnoxious. And they do that thing where like, "This has never been done before." This has literally never been done before. Like they just say that about anything. Like, "We've never had this. "We've never experienced this. "We all felt amazing on the set." - Well, the thing is with Cats is that I've seen it on stage before.

And like, I actually thought not my favorite musical, but I was like, okay, out of all the musicals I've seen on stage, it's pretty all right. It's pretty decent. Like it's a good story. The songs are pretty all right. But then when you watch that trailer and you see the horrific things in that trailer, you're just like,

- Well, you have peaked my interest now. I would, yes, fucking green screen, like huge artists, like on these like fucking cat, like basically these huge actors being furries. - I swear there was like really funny like cast interviews. - Really? - Where like the cast were like, "I don't fucking know."

What do you want me to say? I love it when actors like give interviews and they just fucking shit on what they're in. - All I hope is that- - There's something really cathartic about it. And like, they're like, yeah, it sucks. - Like the fucking Robert Patterson one, right? - Yeah, the Robert Patterson one is like, I can't fucking- - Twilight? - I can't fucking stand Twilight.

Like Robert Pattinson, please. Have we spoke about this before on the podcast? - We did this in private. - Yeah, I think we talked about it in private. - Where like Robert Pattinson hated being in "Twilight" and his interviews about it are so fucking funny. And please as well go and like Daniel Craig. - Daniel Craig, yeah. - In James Bond. - Did we talk about this?

- I don't even remember. - Literally can't remember if we talked about this on the podcast or on private anymore. - Apologies if we said it already. - We must have spoken about it on set, I think. - I can't remember. - Because Daniel Craig hates being in 007 and James Bond. The interviews that he gave were so fucking funny. He did like a quote where he said like, "I'd rather cut myself than do another Bond film."

And then he did another Bond film. It's so funny. It's just like- - It's so tragic. - It's like, imagine getting hired back again by the people you're just shitting on. I would rather die than work for you again. - And they're like, "Let's get him back." - "Let's get this guy back."

How out of options must they be to have to like bring Daniel Craig back here? They must've thrown so much money at that point. - Because I'm pretty sure he must've signed a contract before. Otherwise, this isn't like- - Really? - Yeah, 'cause you know, if you break contract, I'm pretty sure that you're just like blacklisted from Hollywood, right? 'Cause that's why no one's like, no one really breaks contracts. - Either that or they must've given Daniel Craig a fat fucking paycheck.

- I'm sure they gave him a lot of money. - Yeah, I'm pretty sure they just gave him a lot of money. - Didn't they have to do something? 'Cause he like in the, which movie was it? Was it, what was the most recent film? - The one after Skyfall, right? - Yeah, the one after Skyfall. - That was the one after Skyfall? - Yeah. - God, I'm so behind on my Bond movies. - Well, there was one where in the casino,

it was a casino scene, it's not a casino where he like- - I was about to say. - I know that one. Spectre, Spectre. - Typing Daniel Craig gloves. There was a thing where they had to like CGI, I think gloves on or off of him because he just left them on because he liked them or something. - What?

- So yeah, he bought gloves before like filming and he really wanted to wear them. And so they had to like CGI the gloves off of him because he wanted to wear them. Is that right? Can you Google it? It was something like that where he was so fucking done with this shit that he impulse bought gloves and was like, I'm wearing them on the film. I don't give a fuck. And then they just CGI them off of him. - CGI just like cracking their necks being like, all right,

- I couldn't do that just out of a feeling horrible to the people who have to work on that CGI. But you gotta respect the level of, I don't give a fuck. - That's just a new level of just, yeah, just you don't give a fuck. You just fucking with- - That's the most passive aggressive way of being like, don't call me back, please. - You're literally on like a half a billion dollar movie and you just don't give a fuck about wearing your like $200 gloves. You're like, ah, who cares? Like it's just the thing.

- It's also just like the choice of gloves as well of all things you could have put on. It's just like the biggest fuck you, right? - It's just, I don't know what about it. - It's fucking hilarious. - It's just so cathartic to just hear this. I don't know why it's so funny just hearing individuals be like, fuck you big movie corporation. I'm going to do what I want. And then they just roll with it. They're like, I guess we'll fix it in post. - Yeah, I guess we can't.

- Get him to take his gloves off. - And he's in the new one as well. And I think the new one is supposedly his last one, but it got delayed because of COVID. - I'm pretty sure that's what they said about "Skyfall" as well. - They said that about last like three films, but they don't know who's gonna replace him. - Well, that's so weird, right? 'Cause I remember a time like, you know, in like the late 90s, early 2000, where like, I feel every James Bond movie, there was a different James Bond.

- No, they did like two or three, I think each at least. - But I feel like they were like replacing them like quicker than Daniel Craig, right? - No, I mean- - Because I mean- - Pierce Brosnan did a lot. - Pierce Brosnan did like five maybe. - Yeah, but he probably also enjoyed it, unlike Daniel Craig. - Maybe he did. - I think he got his paycheck and he yeeted out. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - I think he got what he got. - What else has Daniel Craig done apart from James Bond recently? - He's done a few pretty good films. I can't remember any off the top of my head. He did like, I really liked him in like "Layer Cake".

- Oh, "Layer Cake." - That was a really British film. - That's a, I completely forgot about that. - I like him in everything else but James Bond. I think he's really good in everything but James Bond. - Yeah, but I feel like in "Layer Cake," he also just played Daniel Craig, right? - But he played it better. - He just kind of played James Bond in a different skin. You know, it was...

- It kind of very felt James Bond. - It was Daniel Craig playing James Bond playing Daniel Craig. - I feel like James Bond is just an outdated archetype. - I feel like it is as well. - You watch it nowadays and you're like, they've tried their best to kind of inject. - Modernize it. - Yeah, but it still feels like when they're trying to put like the playboy scenes in, you're like, this is kind of cringe now.

I don't know why, but just seeing a guy just go, "Yes, I'm going to fuck these two women." It's like, "All right, okay, sure." - We get it, man. You get pussy, so does everyone else, bro. You don't have to brag about it. - I don't know, it just felt very like nowadays, it just feels like, "Oh, this feels kind of lame." - Yeah, I mean, it's a very stated archetype. Like I can't imagine anyone, like imagine if I'm just like, "My name's Manny Tappo."

- You're wearing the turtleneck. - Well, that's why I really enjoyed a Kingsman, right? - The name's Job, Steve Handjobs. - Well, Kingsman was good until the second movie. - Yeah, yeah. That's why I really liked the first movie because it completely just like almost made fun of that. - It was really good. I really liked it. And then it became the archetype. - And then it became the archetype. - Yeah, exactly.

- How the fuck did we get on about James Bond films? - I don't fucking, we're talking about musicals. Oh, have you ever, I was thinking about musicals. I was thinking about musicals I actually liked. The only ones I probably actually liked were the South Park movie.

- Did you guys ever see the Book of Mormon live? - It's literally been the one, the musical that I've always wanted to watch. - Dude, it's a fucking amazing musical. And the reason I like those musicals is the music is funny and it plays off on joke and it doesn't, like I don't care about the story. I don't care about the story of South Park's, I'm there for the jokes and that helps out onto the jokes. And that's why it's the only musical I can get behind.

But yeah, I'm not really that much of a Broadway or West End guy. So I've already seen a movie. - You seem like a Broadway kind of gentleman. - Do I seem like a theater kid to you? - Have you ever been tempted to go watch like the anime like musicals? Have you seen any of them?

- Tempted? No. - Or they restarted the Death Note one, right? - Yeah. - How does that work? How does that work? - I have been so tempted to go and watch it just to say, I went to go see a Death Note musical or like the Prince of Tennis musical. I really wanna go. - You know what?

- That idea wasn't in my head, but now it is in my head. - Yeah, I really fucking want, I've been trying to find people to come with me to go watch like any of the anime musicals, just because there's something like defeatist about being like, yeah, so I went to go watch a Death Note musical by myself the other day, you know, just like as you do on a Sunday. - Dude, I'd fucking do it. - Yeah, please. - Fuck that, I'll go by myself to watch a Death Note musical.

- They had the My Hero Academia musical, didn't they as well? - Yeah, they did, they did. - That idea wasn't in my head, but now I'm just genuinely curious. How does that work? How do you adapt Death Note to a musical? - I like eating apples. - I feel like it'd have to be, I want it to be in the style of like a Willy Wonka-esque. - Like original, you know, like the Oompa Loompa. Just have Ryuk be like an Oompa Loompa.

have that kind of sing a song. - I would like that. - Just all the Shinigamis. - I'd like to think that the costume for Ryuk is extremely poor as well. It's just the shittest costume. It's literally a guy in like a few black- - Just a guy like a Gimp costume. - Yeah, a Gimp costume. He's just been like tarred and feathered and he's just kind of like overweight and he's like, "No, no, no, no." It's like Smoker's voice as well.

- It's just fucking William Defoe without any makeup on. It's just William Defoe. - I know, William Defoe. - He comes out and is like, "It is me, Ryu." - I'd buy it, I'd buy it. He's a very good actor. He could do it. - Yeah, he's great. - If anyone could just stand there and make me accept it, it's probably William Defoe. - Yeah, of course. - God, I'm just remembering the Death Note live action movie now. - He was the best part of the movie. - He was the best part of the movie. - He said four lines and that was it, unfortunately.

- But he was good in those four lines. How do we get onto this? How do we tangent so hard? - I don't know, we're good at that. - So gentlemen, moving on though, this is now our last few moments in the studio. - This is the last episode of season one. - I guess it is. - Is that what we're gonna call it? - I don't know if we're doing like season one via studios or via the year.

- I mean, either way, this is the end, right? 'Cause I think we're like right on, as we're recording this is like one year anniversary, I'm pretty sure. - I'm pretty sure. - I think so, something like that. - So it's 53, right? - Yeah, something like that. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - It's 53 or 54. - Close enough. - Oh, there's 52 weeks in a year and- - And the one over here. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, of course. - Yeah, wow. I mean, it felt longer than a year to be honest.

- I don't remember the studio being this full. I don't remember what it looked like before. - It's scary going back to like episode one and being like, it doesn't look like the same room at all. - I'll tell you what, after you mentioned it on the Trash Taste Awards, I remember looking at the first episode again as well. And I forgot that we originally had our camera all the way back then. - That's right in the back. - Yeah, so it kind of looked like you were peeking through like, you're peeking through being like,

What are they getting onto? And now it just feels like way too close. Hello, this is the new camera angle that we changed to, you know. - What, like 30 episodes ago? - Yeah, it just feels weird. I forgot that we changed camera angles and the different feeling that it gave off. And yeah, like I'm impressed how many guests we got this year as well. - Yeah. - That's a- - Given the limited circumstances of- - All nine of them. - Except for Chris, fuck Chris.

- Yeah. - But yeah, I'm sure Chris will be on again. - Yeah, of course. - I'm sure Chris is gonna come knocking on the door. - Is he gonna be the first guest on in season two as well? - He said he wants to be. - Just asserting dominance to every other guest. - I don't see why not. - Dead ass, what else is there to talk about with Chris? - What do you mean? Just have Chris on, insanity ensues.

- Chris just makes funny moments by being on. We do bully Chris, Chris bullies us. - I'm looking forward to what drip he's gonna be wearing next after winning laziest drip in season one. - You know, like after that episode goes on, he's gonna be like, "Oh, I gotta come with like a suit." - I told Chris, I was like, "You won an award by the way." - You won two awards? - No, no, no, no. He said, I was like, "Oh yeah, you won an award." He's like, "Oh really, really?" I was like, "Yeah, yeah, yeah." He goes, "Just one."

- I was like, fuck off Chris. - Well, lucky for you, Chris. - I didn't tell him about the second one. So I'll be surprised. - Brilliant, brilliant. He won't find that out. - Yeah, he won't find out.

- Yeah, but I guess, yeah, I guess by the time you see us next week, we'll be in a hopefully brand new setup. - Yeah, it'll be like a month for us. We'll be like, one week for you guys. - It'll be this week for you guys. - We wanna remodel and change the setup a little bit, get the angles different. - We're not gonna have like a completely different setup right off the bat, I think. It's gonna be similar to season one where we kind of grow our sets as the season goes on. You know, I feel I like that. - Well, you haven't decided everything yet,

- Yeah, but- - We have no idea what the new set's gonna look like. - I wanna get all new figures. That's what I want. Get rid of this. - That involves having another Akihabara special. - It does. - Which is gonna be pretty hard right now considering everything is locked down. - But in the future. - So maybe you'll have to wait a little bit longer compared to season one to get a new Akihabara special. But we do wanna do one in the future. Apart from that, I don't know what other plans. I'm just excited to show you guys

the new set that we have and having a proper Trash Taste office, not just an apartment that we just remodeled into a set. - I mean, you guys will see it in the After Dark vlog. I mean, like speaking of like, there'll be way more After Dark content as well. - We're gonna have two sets now. So the After Dark specials aren't just going to be Trash Taste 1.5. - Well, yeah, I mean, that's the main, I think that's one of the big reasons why we wanna move is just to allow us to make more space and more content.

'Cause right now it's, you know, I mean, you can make content in this room. I'm sure we could, but it's one of those things where- - But at what cost? - Well, yeah, when you're in a room that you just despise, 'cause it's too cramped, you don't wanna make like stuff. You don't feel creative. You don't feel like you wanna do anything. Like you guys will see when we vlog it, but like behind the set is an absolute mess. And actually, I mean, the set is a mess.

- Yeah, the entire room is, the entire place is a mess. - The beauty of camera angles is everything looks bigger, but this is, it is not as neat as you think it is. In fact, like I get actually like physically embarrassed whenever a guest comes over. - Oh yeah, it's pretty embarrassing. - Yeah, because the one thing, the one mutual thing that every guest says is, "Wow, this place is a lot smaller than it looks."

- We're like, yeah, we know, we know. - It's like when your mom comes in and your room isn't tidy, that's what I feel like. The first thing I feel like saying is apologizing. And then the second thing is like, whoever has to explain to the guests that they're gonna be sitting here. And the first thing you have to explain to them is how to get here. And you're just like, oh, you just gotta go around the set, I think. - You cannot see any of the desk. And we have three desks over there at the wall. You can't see any of the desk.

- My desk is a fucking war zone that Maylene's turned into. - Which was the guest that thought you had to go under again? Who was that? - Was it Raina? - Oh yeah, Raina. - Yeah, I think it was Raina. - There was so little space, Raina literally thought that you had to go under the table. - Although, I'm honest, there's pretty more room under the table. - Probably, probably. I can't blame her. - There's less of a tripping hazard under here. - I can't fault her for thinking that, honestly.

- Yeah, everything, the way we've done it is all, it works, but it's literally the meme of like the Cheeto holding the door locked. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Everything works, but it's not clean. - It can be better. - It's just about, it looks good. I'm happy with how it looks, considering what we've done, it's the most scuffed way we can of it looking as good as it does and sounding as good as it does. But yeah, we really wanna upgrade it.

I don't know, get a better system in general just for everything. Have more guests on, you know, have guests on after dark, you know, just have it, everything upgraded, everything better, you know? - And you know, it's because of you guys that we're even able to fucking move to, you know, - Yeah, yeah, yeah. Without the Patreon stuff, we definitely wouldn't be able to consider the upgrades that we're doing. - Absolutely. - Basically when we started this podcast, we were just like, what's the minimum we can get away with in case this podcast is like zero success. - Just crashes and burns. - Just crashes and burns immediately, right? - Yeah, so we planned this on like,

as much of a budget, as much money as we were willing to put in, essentially. How much money do we wanna lose? And then also hours do we wanna lose? - Yeah, exactly. - But like, yeah, I mean, again, like we said this in the previous episode with the Trash Taste Awards, obviously, but we're very grateful, I think, for the crazy amounts. I think if you'd have told us that we'd be this close to a million subs after one year, I think we'd have been like, "Lamao, funny." - I'd be like, "Athal-

- 100,000 subs, that's a success. - Because we only pushed this channel like twice on our main channels. Once at the start of a video or end of a video and then the Akihabara special. - And then the Akihabara special, yeah. - Considering it's everything else is,

driven by like Twitter and you guys just enjoying the show. - Yeah, you guys spreading the good word. - It's crazy, man. It's crazy to see. - 'Cause normally with a lot of podcasts I see you have like with big names in them, you have like the big announcements. So you've got the big trickle of views and then the view just like drips down, which is what I was expecting. And I wasn't expecting us to maintain like

via view count in the audience. - For 50 episodes. - It's also intimidating 'cause now I know that the dumb shit I say will be in front of more people than ever. - Yeah, right. - One thing I certainly was surprised by was just realizing that some of the shit we say to each other, people like hundreds of thousands of people are now listening to it. - I forget about everything I fucking say. - Same here. - All the dumb shit. Like I got emailed today about baked beans.

about wanting to send me baked beans. I totally forgot I said I like baked beans. And someone's offering to send me a ton of baked beans. And I'm like, I'm flattered. - You can't say no to that. - I just can't remember why I said this. I've totally forgot. - Out of context, it just sounds like a random person wanting to send you baked beans. - I know I went on a rant about loving baked beans.

But that was one of those things where I'm very passionate in the moment and then when I leave, I totally forget that I had a rant about that. - Exactly. - And then I'm like, "Oh, I did talk very passionately about fake beans." That is me. I did do that. - I feel that's a lot of moments, right? I mean, sometimes you just get passionate when you're talking with your mates or when you're in like a fucking, is it Kaya or having like an argument where it's not really an argument and you're just very passionate in the moment. - Do you reckon we'll get any comments? People are like, "Man,

- I like the old set more. There's a better vibe to it. Well, the table's gonna be the same. - I stopped watching after season one. Season one is when it went downhill. - Season two is a real let down. - Well, I mean, essentially it's not too much is gonna change really. - Not too much. Really, okay. To like bring down expectations, really the reason we want to change offices is because this is not a convenient office at all.

On camera, we don't want too much to change. We just want to work more comfortably instead of having this like the most junk fucking set up for everything we do. I mean, right now, "Trash Taste After Dark" is running off of my laptop. - There's like three giant ass HDMIs going into this man's laptop. - Yeah, the cable management is atrocious. - Literally, it's like, it's a laptop that's sitting, that's like hooked up on a foldable chair.

- That's like connected with wide internet that's just running in the middle of the floor. That's it. That's trash taste after dark. - It is jank as fuck. - And that's because we can't afford more space right now. So it's like the most jank. - It's mostly for us. - Enough of us complaining about our problems, I guess. Everything should hopefully be better. We don't know 'cause we haven't moved yet, but we're hoping that everything goes really smoothly. - Offset, I wanna shout out to the Denny's guy. You're the real juice.

- Denny's guy is always there for us. - We've talked before about- - Boss man's always waiting for us. - We've talked before about how every time for a Trash Chase recording, we have lunch at Denny's and we've gone there so often that there's a guy at Denny's who knows the exact time we're coming in on the exact day. And he knows what we want. We ordered the same thing every time. - He knows how many people as well. - I've not met a boss man in Japan.

I hadn't met a boss man in Japan until I met that guy. You are boss man. - He's real boss man. - He is a natural boss man. - I love it 'cause like sometimes we would come into the Denny's and he would just, the moment he sees us, he's like,

- It's like four, right? - Yeah. - I got you, I got you. We got it reserved for you, don't worry. - You're gonna miss the MILF bar. That's also like next door as well. So we discovered a bar. - It's a restaurant. It's just run by women. - Yeah, it's just a restaurant that's just run by attractive older Japanese women. - Hot single MILFs in your area. - And I remember Connor first going into there and it's kind of like- - And he had an awakening.

- I was like, I like this. - The promised land. - 'Cause it's a new bar. - We should come back here. - And then we almost, we came back almost every week for a while. The land of milk and honey. It's right around the corner. - What a beautiful bar. - Yeah, I'm gonna miss this area as well. - I wanna miss the area. - I didn't have much expectations for this area. Obviously we're not gonna say where. - 'Cause we're in a quiet area. - Yeah, but like, you know, we've come to, after a year we've come to appreciate the small things, you know?

- We can say we're in sight tomorrow, it's whatever. - Sure, we can say we're in sight tomorrow. - Yeah, sure. - I mean, I don't think it matters now, we're not gonna be doing this.

- We're not there anymore. - Yeah, we're not there anymore. So we were in Saitama, but not anymore. - Commuting was a pain in the ass. - Exactly. - Again, everything was on a budget. Saitama is outside of Tokyo. It's like an hour away from Tokyo. - It's immediately cheaper. - Just close enough that it kind of feels like it's in Tokyo. Kind of like being in zone four, zone five in London, right? - Yeah, it's like telling your, you know, in London, be like, yeah, so the studio is at Heathrow Airport, just a...

- It wasn't that far. It wasn't that far. - I thought it was like an hour from central London. - Yeah, but Tokyo is a lot bigger as well though, isn't it? - True, true, true. - I mean, you can go from one end of Tokyo to another in an hour as well. - I understand these references.

- Yes. - London boys. - Heathrow, yes. - Downtown Manhattan, right? I don't know what I was gonna say. - Pennsylvania from New York. - I guess thank you for watching. Thank you for watching season one. - Yeah, wow. - I don't know if we have much else to say, really. - Hope you guys stick with us all through season two. Look forward to more fun, epic game content. - There probably won't be a season three, I don't think we plan on upgrading from the new studios. - Yeah, yeah. It'll be season two for a while.

- Season one is the test run. Season two is the one that has like 500 episodes. - Don't think there's gonna be many new plot developments. - Yeah, this is literally it. - Season one was like the 54 episode pilot. Season two is where the actual show begins. But yeah, hopefully you guys enjoy the new studio. - Yeah. - It's just like Arthur. Does Arthur have seasons? I don't know if Arthur has seasons. - What's Arthur?

- Oh, you mean the cartoon? - Yeah. - Does it have seasons? Does Arthur have seasons? I feel like it's just running. We're gonna be like Arthur. We're just never gonna stop airing. We're just gonna every single week. - I've never heard of anyone being like, "Season 23 of Arthur is my favorite." - I don't know, does Arthur have seasons? Can you Google it? Arthur doesn't have seasons. It just runs. It just keeps going. - It just runs. - I'd say it's more like, "Come dine with me," right? - We're just gonna keep coming and coming every week. We come every week, guys. "Trash Taste" comes every week, guys. - Come. - Come.

- We'll see you guys next. - No, we got to shout out the patrons. - We got to shout out the patrons. - Look at these lovely patrons. - Look at these patrons who come every week. - Whom without we could not move into a new studio and have a better setup than we do now off screen. - Absolutely. - No, it doesn't, fuck off. - Season 22. - Season 22. - It's basically one season.

- One long season 22. - I don't even, I can't tell. - But hey, if you like Arthur season 22, then make sure to go over to our Patreon, patreon.com/trashtaste. Also follow us on Twitter, send us your memes on the subreddit. And if you hate our faces, let's do this on Spotify.

And also go subscribe to After Dark. There's gonna be a lot more content there, hopefully. - Hopefully. - Hopefully. Starting very soon though. - Yep. - Bye old studio. - Yeah, bye. - Yeah, bye old studio. - Bye old studio. I mean, we're taking most of this with us. I mean, I'm taking Rios with me. - What were you gonna say before I rudely interrupted you? - I have no idea. - Fantastic. - All right. See you guys in the new studio. - See you guys next time. - That was like our slowest outro ever. What the fuck is that?