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How to NOT Flirt with a YouTuber | Trash Taste #37

2021/2/19
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Joey:分享了日本公司年度健康检查的经历,结果以A、B、C等级呈现,这让他感到很有压力,并第一时间将结果告诉了妈妈。他还谈到了肝脏问题并不完全是由酒精引起的,以及健康检查结果只提供等级,没有改进建议的困惑。 Garnt:分享了他在健康检查中获得的成绩,并对胆固醇指标较差感到困惑。他还谈到了在听力测试中获得A,这让他意识到自己的问题是注意力不集中,而不是听力问题。在视力测试中,他因为不理解测试流程而表现不佳。 Connor:分享了他在健康检查中获得B的焦虑,以及在亚洲文化中B代表不好的认知。他还谈到了健康检查结果只提供等级,没有改进建议的困惑,以及他如何通过减少饮酒和关注饮食来改善健康状况。

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The hosts discuss their recent health checkups and the surprising grading system they encountered, reflecting on how it made them feel competitive about their health.

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- Welcome to this episode of Trash Taste. I am the boy, the big boy, and with me I have big boy Chungus and small boy Chungus. - Wow. - Why am I suddenly the fattest one here? - That's not a call out, Joey, right? I haven't seen either of you at the gym lately. I don't know what's been going on with that, but you know, I'm very disappointed. - I mean, who was the one that got a C in cholesterol? - Are we gonna start adding each other?

- I wanted to open on that. I wanted to open on that. 'Cause you know what? I was doing my usual trash taste schedule and shitting on the toilet literally before recording. Got to get a phone call from Sydney. And she said, "Oh, I finally get my health results back in." I'm like, "Congratulations, what'd you get Sydney?" And she got all As. - How the fuck is Sydney's liver an A? - I'm like, fuck off Sydney. Fuck off you got all As. - How is it that she gets all As and yet I got a C on my liver?

- I'm probably the one out of the four of us who drinks the least. - Okay, so to give context to this conversation, so a few weeks ago, if you're a regular "Trash Taste" viewer, you would know that we had our biannual, annual health check. - Annual. - Annual health check.

- Which is something that a Japanese company forces every employee to do. They have to go for a checkup and the company also gets the results. - Yes, yes. And so we did our health checkup a few weeks ago, talked about it on Trash Taste and we just got our results back. And this is the first time I've ever gotten results back from like getting my health checkup in a foreign country. And I did not know

- That you get graded. - Yeah, I'm used to seeing numbers and them saying like, oh, this is bad. I'm like, oh, well, I mean, it's just a funny number, isn't it? - Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no, it literally, I got my health checkup and I'm just like, wait, they are literally grading you ABC. - It's like an end of your school report. - Yeah, I felt like I was doing my GCSEs again on A levels. I'm like, my God.

And normally I don't really care too much about my health checkup. - Unless it's bad. - Unless it's bad, right? You see numbers, you see the doctor's suggestions and they're just that, they're doctor's suggestions. But I don't know why, I think it's,

seeing my health being graded like a school test, it just brought the Asian blood out of me, right? - Yeah, I definitely felt more competitive with my body. - 'Cause I was going through my health checkup and overall I got a B, so I was like, okay, I am a straight A student. What the fuck did I do wrong? - There's no B in Asian. - Yeah, there is no, no dead ass. - In Asia, B means bad.

- Deadass the first thing I did when I got my results was I phoned up my mom and told her how well I scored in this exam, like a good Asian song. - I called up the doctor and I was like, just to check, this wasn't ranked was it? This was casual, this was free play, right? Please say this was psyched. Please say, no, but yeah, so I mean my results, I got like all A's, which is great. As you'd expect from someone who is under the age of 30,

You're generally supposed to be quite healthy. But I got a B on BMI, which I mean, obviously I'm built a little different. And this is Japanese BMI, which I believe is slightly different. I don't know if I'm led to believe that's correct, but I mean, BMI is bullshit anyway, all of the shit. This is 100% muscle, not fat, don't at me. And I got a C on my cholesterol. But I got like, well, I'm not sure how cholesterol work exactly, 'cause I don't know shit, I'm dumb.

So they had like three different cholesterols and all of them were like a little, you know, all of them were kind of out of touch. But I was like, in my head, I'm like, well, they gave me three C's now for my cholesterol. I'm like, but what are the odds of one of these cholesterol being good and the others not being good? You know what I mean? If I got an amazing cholesterol, the other two aren't gonna be like, well, shit, I mean, we're gonna pick it up. I mean, I don't know, to me it was odd. - I mean, mine was worse because I got a C on my liver

and I think a B on my heart rate monitoring or something. - Really? - And everything else was an A. - What does that mean? - That's the thing, it's usually on your thing. I think you two got like a doctor's note, right? Or like a doc, did you guys get a doctor's note? - So you can ask when you get the thing, I don't know if you said yes or no, you can ask if you want advice. And I said, no, I don't want advice. - I said no either, but I still got, I don't know if it's the same doctor's note that we're talking about, but it was just like a summation of the test results.

- It didn't explain anything. - No, it didn't. It just said some of the values are a bit abnormal, which is higher or lower than we expect, but there shouldn't be anything to worry about. - I didn't even get a summation. - Did you know? - Mine literally, overall I got a C and the summation box was just blank. I was like- - Oh yeah, yeah. - So what, you're just gonna tell me that my liver is bad and that's it?

- Should I be worried? - Some context would help. - Did you get a note that said you had to come in three months later as well? - I did, I got that. They told me to come back in three months, but it's optional. - I mean, on the thing it says like, if you get a C, they recommend you come back three months later. But I didn't get like a note saying that I should come

should come back to them. - No, no, so yeah, mine said you should come back and do nuts, but you have to pay for it. And also, for cholesterol, I'm obviously gonna turn up and they're gonna be like, "Hey, you should exercise and eat healthy." I'm like, "Thanks, dog." - I was gonna ask, 'cause I heard you're back on the chicken and broccoli diet. - No, no, no, I haven't gone right back to the chicken

- I have started eating a little more health conscious. - Is it because of the test results? - I think it helped, helped me be a bit more conscious. It made me, you know when you would maybe just go for the karage or you'd go for the chips. It made me be a little, like second thing like, you're really bad. - I mean, I definitely have like stopped drinking since the last show. I think I've only drank like once or twice since.

is the liver a hundred percent all problems come from alcohol? 'Cause I feel like it's not just that. - Probably not. - There's gotta be a whole host of other things. - Probably not. - 'Cause the problem with the test results is that they gave you the grade, but they didn't tell you how to improve it. And I guess that was our bad 'cause we literally ticked the box that said, we don't want doctor's advice because I had assumed like any other health checkup that it would just be like, you know, the genetic-

- Yeah, it was just like the generic, are you doing well? Do I need to go to the hospital to really have a lifestyle change? No, but as soon as I saw the fucking B, 'cause I got a B in my blood and I'm just like, how the fuck do I improve my blood? What am I doing wrong? Why is my blood a B? - Just improve your Nen, just like control it. - Like, 'cause they were like going on like, the white blood or T cell, I don't know, I'm not a fucking- - I saw the numbers, I just saw the A, I was like,

I'm happy. - Yeah, I saw the B and I'm just like, as an Asian student, you know, 'cause whenever I saw a B in a test, I'm like, okay, I can improve this test score. I can study a bit more. I can optimize this a bit more somehow. - What I found interesting was that like, I always thought to myself that,

I was very deaf for my age. Like, because you know, I went to like a lot of concerts growing up and just fucking basically destroyed my ears through like headphones and shit like that. But so I was expecting like on the hearing part that I maybe get like a B or something. I wouldn't even have complained about it. But then I saw I got an A. So I was like, oh, it's not that I'm deaf. It's just that I don't listen.

- It kind of made me realize, I was like, oh, okay. I'm glad to know. I don't have a hearing problem. I just have like an attention problem. - I just don't give a shit. - That's my problem. - I was telling the company, I was like, listen, if my eyesight or my ears come back shit, I know exactly why that is. And that's 'cause I didn't know what the fuck was happening when they were talking to me. They just put the headphones on me. I'm like, wait, what? Wait, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. They were like, can you? Then she asked me, luckily I just caught her asking, can you hear in Japanese? Like, can you hear it?

"Here what, what am I listening for?" And then I realized, 'cause I had done the human benchmark test recently that it was the frequency thing. So you say when you can hear it. But I was like, "What do you want me to, "what am I hearing for, like a burp?" I didn't know what was happening. I was like, "Oh, okay, shit, all right." - How did you, because with the eyesight thing, you have to do like the, it's like a circle, but it's cut out, right? How did you guys say that in English?

- No, I said it in Japanese. - What did you just point? - Ue, shite, hidari. - Oh really? - 'Cause I really fucked up in the eyesight thing because I didn't know what they were like looking for. So I thought it was like a normal eyesight testing when I was just like, "Eh?" Because, okay, so to explain the eyesight thing, they have this circle and they have like one of like either up, down, left or right that's cut out. - No, they're diagonals as well cut out.

- I didn't see diagonals. - I didn't see diagonals. - There was no diagonals. - Yeah, there were diagonals. - No, no, no, I only saw up, down, left, right. - No, there were diagonals. - No, 'cause I got all of them right. - Yeah, I did too, but there were diagonals. - There was no diagonals. There was no diagonals. - My one they gave me, they usually have diagonals, right? - I've never seen diagonals.

- Because the only reason I knew about this test is because when I exchanged my driving license from British to Japanese, I had to do the exact same thing. And I was just, it was this exact same thing again. And there was no diagonals. - I mean, I definitely got it right. Cause I came back with like a 1.2. - She's gonna be like, what the fuck is man talking about? Diagonal drive, what the fuck? - Yeah, I know.

right next to the circle thing, you had like the letters as well. So I was just reading out letters when they were asking what direction, what direction is missing from the circle. 'Cause I was wondering why she was looking at me really weird. And I'm just like, and she kept asking me, can you see, can you see? And I'm just like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Let me just read out the letters for you. - It's like why are they all O's? This is easy as fuck.

- Yeah, luckily I'd done the simulation before, so that's why I was not panicking as much, but yeah, man. I mean,

- I clicked no to the health advice 'cause I just figured that it was gonna be the same old, you know. - Yeah. - Eat healthy. - Yeah, 'cause let's be honest, right? Unless it's something bad, like really bad that actually requires treatment, right? They're just gonna tell me, "Hey, you should exercise more and eat healthy." And I do most of that anyway. - Because I mean, like I think for cholesterol, it's pretty simple. It's pretty simple. - Literally just eat. - But for some of them, like for example, liver or blood,

You look at that result. - Your blood's a little yikes. - It's like a number of factors, right? It's like, what do you even start with? - How do I improve my white blood cell count? I don't know. Do I just take an injection of white blood cells? What do you want me to do? - I have a theory, right? This could be a very pleasant theory. I don't know. My theory was, 'cause we got the health checkup done right after like Christmas. And my theory was,

Well, I've just been drinking and eating straight for like three weeks. This is clearly, come on, we gotta write this off. This doesn't count, man. Of course my cholesterol's gonna be higher. I had like 8,000 calories three days ago. Of course it's gonna be higher.

- Maybe, I don't know. - I didn't drink a lot in Christmas. - I drank so much. - I think that definitely skewed the results. That's what I'm gonna chalk it down to. - Doctors out there, please validate me in the comments.

I don't wanna hear if you have an alternative theory, just say if I'm right. - Yeah, I just found it funny how, like, I think this is definitely the difference between like Asian culture and like Western culture where I feel like in Asia, living in Asia, they try to make everything a test and everything kind of competitive. And that's just,

- That's how I was raised as well. So whenever I see a grade, I like something in my blood drives me to try and improve that grade. - Yeah, that's true. - Yeah, and I don't know if I'm just like over competitive or I just maybe. - Well, I think it's good, right? Because if you're the kind of person who you are, those things work really well. But there's obviously some personalities out there that when they hear,

- Oh, by the way, like your BMI is bad or your liver's bad. Where they're just like, instead of like wanting to be like, well, fuck you, I'm gonna improve it. It's like, oh shit, I guess it's just like, there's no hope. Like why is it like not working? And then they should make it worse, right? - Yeah, but I dunno, I feel like as someone who grew up in kind of both cultures,

I think a lot of toxicity can come in putting so much value into a grade or a test. And I feel like definitely living in Asia, they put way too much value into test results and school results. - Do you think there are like some schools and like companies where like they get bullied if you got like a bad rating on one of your health tests? - I think it's totally, it's definitely a thing in Asia. 'Cause I heard- - It's like this motherfucker got a D

- Yeah, because in Asia, I don't know if I'm talking out of my ass, but you see in like anime definitely where you get the test results, right? And it's like publicly posted. So you publicly know what your fellow classmates got. And that to me seems like a lot of pressure. - They do that for like university, like entrance exams as well. They like create a huge billboard in front of the school and it has like your number on it.

And if your number doesn't show up, you basically fail. - Yeah, bro. - So it's like a public execution. - They literally make a public tournament arc for your test results. No wonder they put so much value on tests. And I think that can definitely, that to me from my experience can definitely skew with your mentality when you go out of schooling and you realize that not everything in life is graded and not everything in life has a percentage or a grade that.

that judges your results and how well you do. - Yeah, I think especially because of the given the industry that we've gone into, which is entertainment, if you will.

I don't know if you call trash taste entertainment, but we're trying our best here. I feel like the skillset is nearly 180 in compares of what you learn in school, right? It's purely based on like, I feel like social skills are 90% of our job. - Oh yeah. - Right? Being able to read a room, being able to like talk, you know? I mean, obviously there is a lot of technical aspects, obviously like learning how to set up all this equipment,

but the majority of it can't be taught in a classroom. - Oh no. - And it's kind of, and you can't grade it. How can you grade someone's social skills? Imagine we started doing that. - Ooh, I mean. - Could you imagine? Oh Connor, ooh. You were an S, but ever since the event happened, you've been kind of a bummer. You're kind of a D now. You know what I mean?

- Yeah, it's like getting graded for every tweet you make. - Honestly, if Japan- - It's like, "Oh, that was a B plus tweet right there." - True, he's just gonna find a way. - I mean, I went through a period in life where I was the stereotypical weeb that didn't go out and I had zero social skills.

And how I learned was, I think everyone goes through that stage, especially if you go through university where you kind of want to reinvent yourself, right? You move into somewhere new and you want to be a new person. So what I did was I basically just had like a full year where I just went

went out as much as possible and talked to as many people as possible. Just like try to go out of my comfort zone. And that was fucking hell for me as like this introvert. It was kind of like a trial by fire period of my life that I would never want to do again. - Dance 300 Spartan training of social structures. - It basically was, 'cause I literally,

I literally just did not know how to socialize. I didn't know how to read a room. I didn't know what the social norms were. - That's like such a common cultural thing in Japan that we actually have our own phrase for it, which is university debut. - Really? - Yeah, really. - It's like a cultural thing in Japan where like, because there are so many anti-social kids in middle school and high school. And that when they go into university, they're like, "Oh shit, I'm like one step closer to where I have to socialize in order to fucking

- Yeah. - So university is literally my last chance before I'm thrown into that world. So I'm gonna like make a 180 during university and just fucking do anything and everything possible to just completely change myself around. - I think it is a really OP mindset when you, you know, 'cause you know, I wasn't cool at all in school. I was like,

- Very much an in-betweener. I wasn't cool, but I wasn't like on the bottom of the social ladder, if you will. - You weren't like bullied to shit, right? - I mean, that's 'cause I started fighting back. I clawed my way out of the bottom. I was just kind of like, whatever. Like no one really paid attention to me. Never had any luck with like dating or anything. I never had any of that. But then I thought like, oh wait, like no one knows who I am.

in university. - Yeah. - So like, I don't know, no one knows I'm a mid tier social. I'm a C tier on the social ladder. I can reinvent myself. I think I didn't, you know, I didn't reinvent myself. It's just like, you don't do the mistakes.

fall back on crutches that you had. Like you said, you go out more. I could play video games, which is what I probably would prefer doing. But if people invite me out, I'll say yes, 'cause you wanna be seen as fun. And then if you're seen as fun, everything goes easier. And you learn more, you get more confident. - If for me it was- - Go out of your comfort zone. - For me, it was like the complete opposite.

I was like the really social in middle school and high school. And then when I entered university because I started doing YouTube, I like kind of regressed socially. - But you also lived at home, right? - Yeah, I lived at home. - I can imagine that's like weighed, you must feel, did you feel like different from like the other people who are living on campus and stuff? - Yeah, a little bit.

- Our campus was weird because I think the majority of people in my class did live at home. - Oh wow. - Yeah, we only had maybe like a handful of people who actually lived on campus. - Which university did you go to again? - Sydney University. - Okay, so I guess it's 'cause it's the city university. - Yeah, I mean, we have our own campus and like dormitories and stuff like that, that uni students live in. But I think the majority of people, because it's such a,

an accessible university 'cause it's like smack bang in the middle of like Sydney, like Sydney. So people can just like get on trains and buses and just go home basically. - Yeah, 'cause I feel like- - There's like no one in my class who lived locally to the area. - Really? - Like who's from there. - Well, that's because you went to Swansea, right? And what is there to do in Swansea? - Well, it's a good question. I'm still wondering that myself. I'm here to find the answer. - I mean, to be fair, I didn't live locally either. I lived like an hour and a half by bus. - Fuck.

So I didn't live close at all. I could have, like I was at a distance where I could have easily lived on the dorm. But then I heard from people who were living in dorms in senior university, they were like, don't do it. - That's a good experience though, you know, being thrown into hell. - Honestly, I feel like I learned more valuable social skills and just life skills going to university than I did actual career skills that I was using that I learned from my course. - I don't think I realized it until I left and then I actually started like functioning on my own.

I don't know what I would have done without that period in my life, Jesus. It basically taught me how to survive in the world and how people really are and all the expectations I had growing up. And like, 'cause I was a kid, right?

- You kind of expect that as you grow up and the more mature you get, you assume that everyone's just gonna realize what they're doing, get mature. And then you kind of realize going through university, especially that that was a fucking lie. And then you go out of university, start like the working world and you realize, oh, everyone here is just like growing up university students and everyone, nobody actually knows what they're doing. And everyone is still secretly as immature as they were before. - It's like adults aren't as adults as I thought they were.

- I don't know. I feel like I don't, it's either like people would just have their shit together or they don't like there's no in between. Like, I don't know. I've never met anyone. - Most adults that I've met are just like kids in suits essentially. - That's basically the best way I can describe it.

Especially seeing some of the recent stuff that's been happening, obviously stuff like, can we talk about how- - The stonk market? - Can we talk about the stonk market that we've recently just seen? - Yeah, we're gonna be very delayed from you guys. - We are gonna be very delayed

- To us it just happened. - To us it's just happened or is happening, I don't fucking know. It's a constantly evolving situation. So by the time this airs, everything we're probably gonna be saying is gonna be outdated. - Who knows, the stock market might not even exist by the time this comes out. - My God, when reality is this entertaining, who the fuck needs TV? - This is what I'm saying, this is what I've always said. Real life is so much more interesting. You couldn't make a movie

about like if you'd have pitched a movie being like, right, so what happens is a bunch of Redditors, right? They buy GameStop stock and they like, they fuck over these billion dollar head. Like, no, no, everyone thinks that's fucking stupid. But it happens. It's like, this is the coolest fucking story. - Yeah. - Thus, documentaries are better than movies.

- Yeah, and I just think we are reaching a time period where it used to be a funny meme, but now memes are just, real life memes, big memes now, are basically just making fun of real life events. - Yeah, pretty much. - And having a real life effect on the world. That is the modern, that is what memes are growing into now. - I think I saw someone on Twitter saying though,

This is like kind of the revitalization of it's just a prank bro. But the pranks are just like gone, actually gone far, like gone wrong. I'm not gonna lie. The first time I saw that story, I was like, I don't know what the fuck is happening. And I'm really scared to ask. - Dude, like when it was happening, I was like, what the fuck does shorting a stock mean? And now I'm just like, now because of this meme, I've done so much research that I'm just like,

maybe I should get into the stock market, you know? It's really weird because- - Have you YOLOed? - I have not YOLOed now. - You gonna YOLO that YouTube money away, Garnt? - Look, I'm not a gambling addict, okay? As much as the "Gacha" episode might've made me look, I am not a gambling addict. - He'll YOLO on "Gacha" but not on stocks. - But it's made me think a lot about my grownup investment, like,

- It's weird because I've been doing stocks like through like my dad, 'cause my dad is like really missing. So I've been doing it, but-

When this shit happened, I was like, should I be scared? It's like, what's happening? I don't know what's happening. - Daddy's on money, he's safe. Daddy, please, is my money okay? Please. - Yeah, I mean, no one in my family has anything about it. I mean, you know, I think my family always, I think every single generation of my family is just like made enough to get by, to buy some nice things here and there. So I don't think stocks was ever on their mind. I think my...

My parents had some stocks in the companies they worked for as like a gift. So I think my dad checks up on those stocks, but in terms of actually knowing about the stock market, no one in my family has any idea. - Well, right, because it's not something that everyone commonly learns, right? - But that's what I was thinking. - It's normally fancy gambling for rich men. - Yeah. - Well, that's what it's like marketed as, right? But I mean, doing my research and like,

properly reading into this, you know, like I was thinking why the fuck aren't we taught this in school? Because I feel like, especially knowledge on the stock market,

a lot of the reasons why people don't get into the stock market from what I realized is because nobody knows shit about it. It's because nobody was taught this in school and it sounds so complicated that nobody has the effort or energy to really read up and learn about this. I mean, I didn't. And the only reason I started reading up about this was because the fucking stock market was on fire and it turned into a massive meme. I literally started reading up

about this because of a meme. - Who would have thought that memes get you to go into like educational adventures? - Happens all the time, man.

- But like what this made me think was why wouldn't we talk about this in school? Like there's so many growing up, there's so many life essential like knowledge that I think everyone should know. - To be fair though, it's like, I'm thinking back like when you were like 15, 14, right? - You wouldn't have paid attention. - You wouldn't have paid attention. - I mean, you wouldn't- - They always say like, oh, why didn't they teach kids about taxes in school as well? Because no one would fucking-

- I think even if you aren't, even with taxes, I do think that there should have been something. - Yeah, no, I agree. There should be something. - There should be something. So at least when you get to that point in life, you are aware and you can go back to be like, oh, this is why it was important. Because there's so many things, like for example, I don't know why that like, it's not compulsory to have a financial management course in school. They should be, they totally should be because financial management is such an,

adult life essential skill. And it's something that you have to learn by just either one, your parents teaching it to you or two, fucking up and realizing that this is an important skill you need to know. - Instead schools are like, no, let's learn the quadratic equation. You'll need that. - But no, let's learn that there are- - That's pretty useful actually. You're doing it on the quadratic equation. - Let's learn that there are 180 degrees in a triangle.

- I've used that before in my life. Let's learn about the tangents and the cosine and the sine. - Mitochondria is the powerhouse of the sound. I think why they should be teaching like taxes and financial advice in school is not so that like,

'cause obviously kids aren't gonna fucking come out of school being like, "Hello, let me do your taxes." Just so that when they leave school, it's like, it's on the back of their mind. They're like, "I've been taught that this is a thing that's gonna come up and that I should learn how it works for my value." - Yeah, exactly. The whole point of school I feel should be at least

preparing you for what you're gonna face in the adult world. And you know, there can be some specialized courses. And yeah, I memed it up, but I can understand why they teach mathematics and algebra in case you want to pursue that. But what I am saying is there are so many life essential knowledge that I had to learn on the fly and everyone does. And I was just not taught this stuff in school. And I'm thinking, why the fuck is this not taught in school? - Yeah, and the thing is, is that like, yeah, you know, people can argue being like, you know, oh, who needs to know the fucking quadratic equation? What people are going to like,

architecture or like math based stuff, but like financial advice and taxes and shit like that. It doesn't matter what job you go into. You're gonna have to deal with it as an adult. - Yeah, I mean, it's like, there's so many things in my school that we were taught that like were replaceable in my mind. Like we were taught like to do like media studies

- Well, we just like analyze like newspapers and shit and just like talked about like the media and how they advertise and stuff. - Really? - It's in my job now, but I didn't even get anything useful from that. - Yeah, I had to do that as well. - I didn't have to do that. - And then I did like cooking, which was stupid because let's be honest, I'm not a good cook. I'm sure guys will find out. - Let's be honest, Uber eats is a thing now. - Be honest, make money, get Uber eats. That's what it's all about. But like, you know, could have replaced it. And I think that,

Fuck, what was I gonna say? Fuck, I totally forgot my point now. Fuck, I'm done, I'm done. Go back to you, I'll figure it out. - Okay, okay, no, I'm just saying like there's so many important things in life that I just don't know about. Like, for example, I have no idea about anything about mortgages or anything like that. And when I say mortgage, you say the word mortgage, right? And you're like, oh, okay, you are a grownup.

But as a kid, you hear the word mortgage, you're just like, I don't need to worry about that. That's grown up shit. - I had to learn that shit on the fly. I was like, I don't know what the fuck is that. - But the thing is everyone should aim to own a house or own some property. That's like one of the final goals in life, right? And yet nobody's taught this shit in school. - I'm like, is it bad the only time I've ever heard the word mortgage was in a Monopoly game?

- And you know what? I still have no- - I still don't know how to mortgage in a Monopoly game. - Yeah, exactly. I still have like the bare bones basic idea about mortgage because I've not gone through the process of buying a house because that shit sounds scary to me. - Yeah, it is. - I did go and see a-

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- Thank you to Harry's for sponsoring this episode. Back to the video. - So then when I became an adult and I started making a little bit of money on YouTube, they were like, okay, you can talk to our lawyer now who turned out to be a financial advisor. So I was like, okay, I don't know what to do with this money. Please help me. 'Cause otherwise it's just gonna collect in a bank, probably do fucking nothing. And he's like, well, you could mortgage. And I'm like,

- That would. - Ideally anyone with any kind of savings would have a financial advisor, sadly, you know, it's kind of difficult to get a good one or get one that even, you know, 'cause I- - Like understands her. - Yeah, yeah. - I mean, yeah, I had to fucking like sit- - I would if I could, I mean, I don't fucking know anyone. - Oh no, I had to sit our guy down to be like, okay, this is what I do. And he was like, wait, so you make videos?

and you get paid to do that? And I'm like, yeah. And he's like, okay. - I mean, I would love a financial advisor because there's so little I know about it. And this kind of this, the Wall Street's bets thing that's been going on has really just opened my eyes to how little I know about this stuff that I feel like I really should know. Like a YouTuber I've been watching recently is a guy called, I think it's Graham Spector, I think. - I know who you are.

- Yeah, the millionaire guy. I saw him in other videos where he was talking about, he seems like the most grounded millionaire I've ever- - I couldn't stand him at first. He seemed like a dick. And then I started watching him and I was like, "All right, okay, he's pretty cool." But he just came off as like an ass. - No, because the biggest thing that puts me off is every episode he goes, "He does the, but don't forget

Don't forget to like and subscribe if you liked the video and like no matter how cool a person you are, if you say it- - Immediate turn off. - Unironically, it just like, yeah, immediate turn off. But like I was watching some of the videos and some of the advice that he gave, which was some of it was like just like really,

basic financial advice about how to like manage your money. And this, the thing is he gives advice that any person from any level of income can take to heart. 'Cause like one of the ideas that he really tried to propagate is like, no matter how much you earn, everyone should get into the mindset that you can invest something. - Yeah, that's what I heard. - Because I had grown up with the mindset of like the word investment, that's for rich people.

That's for privileged people. I can't invest. I don't have the money to invest, but even just investing like a fraction of your paycheck or something in the long term can really help you financially and give you a lot of financial stability. And this is the stuff that we just,

we were just never taught. - I guess as well, 'cause you hear so many horror stories about investments going wrong. And you also hear about like, you know, people who take advantage of people with like, you know, a fake financial advisor who says, "I'll help you out with your money." And then just runs off with it, right? - Yeah, exactly. - It's so scary to trust someone with any amount of money. And you know, even if you have like barely anything, it's still all you have, right?

And it's scary to give that to someone. Like, oh, I trust you to take care of this. - 'Cause the way that I was taught up because I also didn't come from like the most well-off family. - You didn't have a lawyer or a financial advisor? - I didn't have a family financial advisor. - I thought everyone had one of those. - My parents declared bankruptcy when I was a teenager. It was, you know, it's- - Oh shit. - Yeah, so, you know, I was taught, I was like, I grew up with the mentality that, you know, you should try to keep your money safe.

you know, gather up as much as possible. And I realized how much this mentality had affected how I think about just resources in general. So what I realized is that I'm that gamer, right? I am that gamer who, whenever, you know, whenever you play an RPG, right? - You don't use any of the precious. - And you get a rare item. - You don't use it. - I don't use it.

And whenever I play like Command and Conquer or something or some RTS games, right? I wait until I have a fuck ton of resources and then I start buying stuff out. And I realized this week when I was like, where did this come from? And I realized, oh, it's because that's just how I manage my money. And that's just-

I've always come in the mindset of I've got to save this just in case of a rainy day. I can't invest it. I need to save it because you know, investing money might be risky. So it's better to just save it. And you know, I kind of realized this as I was doing research and I learned a lot about myself this past week because of a fucking meme. - Because a lot of like entrepreneurs are like spending everything they have. Like just goes like right into buying shit.

Like they have like no savings, just all the businesses. - It's all just high risk, high reward. - Yeah, but then also as well, you know, online, there's so much of those fake stupid entrepreneurs online that have just really like ruined

in my mind, the image of an entrepreneur, like a speed run ruin in like five years. - If I go on like a Twitter or a social media and it has the word entrepreneur on it. - You know, 10 years ago, entrepreneur was probably one of the coolest things you could say. - Yeah, it's like damn, you're an entrepreneur. - Now I just think, oh, you're just doing a fucking multi-level marketing scam to me.

Like, oh, you're selling me a course on how to be more confident. Have you seen those courses? - Yeah. - Those things are insane. They cost like, it's like 1K for the first course and then the like. All right, now you've unlocked the ability to get the next level of the course for only $5,000 and it blows up.

- They're like trying to teach you shit that can't be learned. - Yeah, it blows my mind that people buy into this stuff. 'Cause they're obviously just people who have, who are spending the money you're giving them on this lavish lifestyle, but then they sell back to you. Like it's insane. And I don't know how people get sucked into this. Like when we were talking about the gambling stuff, I can understand how somebody can get into gambling and gamble away.

I don't understand how someone can watch these entrepreneurs, right? These fake entrepreneurs talk about how they can make you loads of money and they can tell you how to be like, this looks like realtors. Have you seen those? - Yeah. - Like I could teach you the best real estate course of your life. Just come here for a hundred dollars and then have someone else teach it and then have five more classes. I'm like, how does someone believe this shit? It's all fake, obviously. I don't get it. - I mean, someone believes the shit because there's,

I think the biggest problem is that there's so much information out there right now that you don't know who to believe. You just gotta, I mean, I can see when someone knows nothing about- - Yeah, I know nothing about many things. - Yeah. - But I also know when someone's chatting out of their ass. - No, no. - You know what I mean? - You have a bullshit detector.

- A lot of people don't have a bullshit detector. - A $500 paywall right out the gate for a lesson is normally the first indication of that. - Well, I think to a lot of people, you know, they see that paywall and they see the presentation and they think, oh, well this is probably legit. - Yeah, I mean, I'm putting money into this. So that must be the advice of the shit. - If I have to pay this much for this course, then it must bring results. - Yeah, maybe I just can't see that. 'Cause obviously we're doing like entertainment and you see how fake things are. - We've been on the internet for long enough to know what's bullshit on the internet.

- Also, you know, we're producing content. I know what fake content looks like, right? And I can imagine how it was made and what tactics we used to push that. - Yeah, because whenever I see one of those like marketing trailers of like, oh, you can learn X amount and earn X amount. I swear they all have the same fucking templates and with the same inspiring stock. - The first year I made $3,000. The next month after that, I made $1,000.

- And it's like, oh, I'm sure you did. I'm sure you did. Off mugging everyone off. - Yeah, exactly. - It's like the equivalent of going on a piracy site and then seeing the adverts of, I earned $10,000 from filling out surveys. And you're like, who the fuck actually clicks on this and believes this stuff?

- It is the equivalent of like porn ads, right? It's just like, the fact that you're advertising on like, not even PornHub, but like some shady hentai website. - Eat this pill and your dick will grow three times the size in three months. - It must, now that I think about it more, must come from like targeting insecurities, right? - Absolutely, yeah.

- Some people are probably insecure about their financial amount. - Yeah, absolutely. - I'm sure there's other things like that. I mean, I just realized now, why would they offer dick pills? Oh, because people are pretty insecure about their dicks not working, right? - Exactly. - Probably the same kind of- - And they don't know any better, right? They just think like, well, I want just the quickest, easiest, most straightforward way to get a lot of money. Oh, look at this ad. - It's a harsh lesson in life to learn that miracles truly donate. - Yeah, yeah.

- I mean, I'm sure it's the same- - Who would have thought that you need to actually put that work and effort into getting something done. - If your dick don't work, that might just be, that might be a lifelong thing. - I don't think any amount of pills is gonna save you. - Only so many times you can pop that Viagra. - Yeah, exactly, exactly. - No, I mean, I feel like it's the same reason why people fall for multi-level marketing scams. - Apparently that's really bad in the US. I have a lot of friends from the US who tell me that they know, they have loads of their friends from high school who tell them that

constantly message him about it. - Really? - Yeah. - Yeah, yeah. I don't know how bad it is. I'm connected to strange people who have strange friends, but. Maylene, do you have friends who are multi-level marketing people? You do? Alkaline water.

- Ladies and gentlemen, I have one case. My proof is there. - I mean, yeah, I know a few people from America as well. - You do? - Yeah, maybe not like- - Directly, but you know people. - Yeah, I know people. And even I think Sydney's mom has like on an off occasion messaged Sydney about this. - Oh no. - About this, you know.

- Nice little scheme that can make a money, but you know, seeing your feet like steps in. And it's because, I mean, it really preys on people who are looking for that out, looking for that out in their life. You know, when you're stuck at a dead end job and you are old enough where you feel like you're kind of stuck here, you're not young enough to do something crazy or just quit everything and you have responsibilities, you know, you kind of look for a way that can,

that can get you out of this lifestyle, whatever that is. And sometimes, I mean, that's why,

- That's why it's, I mean, don't get me wrong. I was gonna say like, don't get me wrong. Like, you know, in order to like get out of that kind of stuff, like risk-taking is definitely a thing that you have to do, but. - There's risk-taking, there's making mistakes. - Right, there's responsible risk-taking where you'll always have a fallback if it doesn't work out. And then there's just a risk-take where you just YOLO it. - At the end of the day, right? Let's be honest, right? The way life works, if somebody had a million dollar idea, right? A stranger isn't gonna come up to you and pitch it to you.

they're gonna fucking do it themselves. - Yeah, exactly. - Like if anyone comes up to you promising to make you money, that should be the biggest red flag in existence. - Nobody can promise to make you money. For example. - And if that person also promising to make you that money isn't a billionaire themselves, why the fuck aren't they doing it? - Yeah, exactly. Which is when I realized where like, what I've realized growing up is,

My mom and dad would give me advice about how to be successful in X and Y and I love my mom and dad. But then I came to a point when I realized that some of the mentality, especially when managing money was not wrong per se, because that's the mentality that they had to survive because that's the environment that they were in. - It was just different. - Yeah, it was a different environment. And I got to realize I'm growing up under different circumstances and I have to choose sometimes

whenever some advice does pertain to me and when it doesn't. And when someone's promising you to make money, that's like, okay, we're three successful YouTubers, right? But as much advice as we can give, we cannot promise a random person to make them a successful YouTuber.

- We can give advice about how to increase their chances and how to help work the algorithm, for example. - But we're not gonna drop like a million dollar video idea 'cause otherwise we would just do that. - There's no way that I can sit here and guarantee you that yes, I can give you advice to make you a YouTuber that gets a million subscribers. Nobody can do that or earn X amount from YouTube. - As far as I'm concerned, we were all very lucky in that case as well.

- Yeah, exactly. - We had the odds in our favor. - But nobody told us or told us what to do. - I mean, I preach by that.

we did a lot of things right. And we all were also very lucky in a lot of aspects. There wasn't one without the other. There are things that you can do to increase your chances of success and massively get the odds into your favor, but to guarantee something, to guarantee success like that, it's pretty much impossible. - Yeah, I think the sad truth of life is, and I think you just realize this, is like, I think the stock market looks like a fucking casino to many people.

- I thought it was a casino. - A lot of the hedge funds do treat it like such. - Yeah, exactly. - But at the end of the day- - We learned that today. We learned that in class. - At the end of the day, it's truly a sad moment when you realize there isn't really a get rich quick scheme in life. It doesn't exist, right? And like, if you're looking for that, I feel like you're already setting yourself up to be disappointed or gonna hurt yourself. - If there was a scheme that could 100% give you like a success rate of like, you're gonna get famous, you wouldn't think everybody would be doing that. - Yeah, it might make someone rich,

- Probably not gonna be you. - Here's the thing, like reading up about a lot of like financial advice and everything that I have for the past week. So this is like, take this with an exact- - This is literally three people who don't know what the fuck

fuck they're talking about financial, discuss financial advice. - Yeah, exactly. - Please do not take any of our advice. - We do have to make a disclaimer about this, but from what I've read and from what I've seen, it seems like you can definitely increase your chances of being successful in life. But the problem is that a lot of the legitimate advice I've seen, it seems to stem from, you don't get rich quick. It's all boring stuff.

put your money in safe places. - It's the long game most of the time. - Wait 10 to 20 years and you'll be well off in life. And nobody wants to hear that advice. - That shit's boring. - That shit's boring. - They wanna hear the, I went to sleep, woke up and I have a million dollars now, right? - You don't wanna hear about fucking Roth IRAs or put your money in fucking cash ISAs. - I want GameStop, I want GameStop stuff. - Yeah, exactly. They wanna hear something exciting. But when you hear like boring financial advice, you just kind of tune out and you're like, oh, okay.

I can get rich, but just not now, but like in 10, 20, no, no, more like when I retire, I'm gonna have a retirement fund. - And thus Garnt figured out why all the old people hold all the wealth in nearly every developed country. Why? 'Cause I noticed, right, when I was, I was just looking around for maybe like, I wanted to just talk to financial advisors, not like do anything, I just wanted to talk to them and just have like the free consultations and talk to them and just figure out what the fuck,

Like what do they do? What can they do? What's a good one, what's a bad one? And I noticed on all of the websites, at least in the UK, every single one, right, was just like, it was picture of some young man helping an old person out on a laptop pointing at the monitor. And then it was all- - It's like the stock image. - Yeah, it was like all,

all just like pension advice, pension, pension, pension, and like long-term, long-term, like none of it was like risky stocks. Yeah, none of it was for young people 'cause you know, let's be honest, young people don't do that shit. - Don't do that shit. - No, no. So yeah, it was really, you kind of just like, a lot of the things that you'd noticed about the world start to fall in place when you start looking, you're like, ah, okay, everything's starting to make sense now. - Yeah, yeah.

- Yeah. - My best advice to anyone young watching this is if this conversation leads to anything, just go out and do your research. Actually read up about this shit because I- - Don't fucking sign up to a $500 sample. I will fucking, I will disown you. - Don't do that. Just read up about basic financial advice. - Everything you need to know is free. - Yeah, that's the thing. Everything you need to know is free and the only thing stopping you is your own laziness.

That is me reading up about this felt like I had just gained five levels of info that I should have known when I was in my twenties. And I'm just like, why didn't I know this shit before? I was stupid, I was lazy. - Don't expect to get rich off the fucking GameStop stonks and short. The road is gonna be long and probably really boring.

- Yeah, exactly. - I'm investing in learning Japanese so that I can become a translator for Yakuza. And then I'll translate the wrong number liking the great pretender and profit hundreds of millions of dollars for myself. Thus being the best investment of ever.

- Don't fucking steal my garbage quick idea, I swear to God. - You gave away the million dollar idea. - Bilingual people don't do it, all right? - I'm just like writing it down. - Joey's like shit, write that down. Joey's called up his financial advisor. Connor said this thing, you won't believe it. - Does anyone know any Yakuza? - Any Yakuza with cross country gang information that we could- - Does any Yakuza need any translation work? I'm your man.

- Oh my God. - All right. Well boys, I have something very special planned today. - Okay. - They said it wouldn't happen. The comments said it couldn't be done, but I finally did it. I wrote a PowerPoint presentation.

- You actually did it? You actually did it? - How many weeks ago was that? - It was like week 10 or something. - Yeah, episode nine or something. - And I was like, what? That was just like, you know when you say something offhand and then the- - It was an offhand comment. - It was an offhand comment. And then the community and the Reddit would just never let you forget that you said that one thing. - So to explain what Garnt is talking about, I don't know which episode it was, play the flashback, Mudan. - What I gotta do is I gotta, some episode I end up doing a presentation of all the different ways people have tried to hit on me.

- Please. - It's like a PowerPoint presentation. The most interesting ways it's happened. So I thought I made a little presentation with some fun images to explain all the different ways that you can be. So I guess I should pull the laptop up. - So are you about to break down the 93%? - Break down the 93%, it's not the 93% anymore. It's like 50 now. - This is how you can also be the 93%.

- Sign up, first month is $100. - I wanna preface this is not my laptop as it has stickers on it. - It's my beautiful laptop. - YouTube guides being hit on all the ways that you can be hit. - Oh my God. Wow, this is bringing me back to like high school. - Dude, you're, okay, you've actually done a PowerPoint presentation. - I did, I did. - Is this your TED talk dude? - This is my TED talk. TED didn't invite me, so I thought we'll make my own. - Before we start, how much effort did you put into this? - Not that much. So this is like,

- Okay, so basically these are all true things that have happened at one point or another. And I didn't write all the whole details out. So basically they're more prompts for my memory to be like, ah yeah, this is what happened. All right, let me explain. - This is like a real TED talk. - I guess so, yeah. - This isn't like the high school, I'm reading off the PowerPoint. - No, no, no, there's literally like two sentences just to remind me. Oh, it's this story, okay.

- Okay. But yeah, I do wanna preface before we begin. I'm not trying to make out that I'm some kind of like fucking sex God that can, no one can resist. It's literally just when you have X amount of subscribers, obviously there's gonna be two people out there that are stupid enough to think that I'm attractive and try and hit on me. - Right. - You're being very humble then. - I do not think that I am like X hot or whatever. This just happens with the job, I think. People don't try it with you 'cause you know, you guys are basically married, all right.

- Not to each other, of course. - Why are you laughing, Maylene? - Maylene's like, "I love the gay talk." - All right, so- - And it's like, "Tell me more about how they're married." - What do you expect to see on this list? What are you excited for? - God, I don't know. Basically, I'm just looking forward to this presentation just being a massive excuse to say, "I'm not a fuck boy, but-"

- No, no, no, this is, you know, obviously didn't reciprocate, you know, but 'cause most of these are strange. - Yeah, okay. - I've also accompanied, I just downloaded a bunch of stock images. I didn't pay for the license, I shouldn't say that, but I just downloaded the bunch. - Thank you Getty Images. - So that could just accompany it, just for fun. Why not? 'Cause I love stock images. So we have the classic to start with. What is that?

So this is, as I've said, a text to my personal number. - Okay, what? How did they get your personal number? - That's what I wanna know, Garnt. I don't know. So this happened about, I think four or five months into my YouTube career, if you will. - Yeah. - I thought, great, I haven't leaked anything. I don't do live streams. - 2015? - Yeah, I was wondering how the fuck someone had done this. So it turned out at the time I had an iPhone

And the email that I listed was actually like my email linked to my iPhone account. And someone had just connected the dots of like, oh, let's just put this email in my iPhone and text Connor. Don't use iPhone anymore. - Oh, that's how, because they did the iMessage thing.

- Right, right, so I deleted that email. So it doesn't exist anymore. - Immediately. - Yeah, because I was like, fuck this. But at the time it was very creepy to wake up to a text from an American number being like, "Hi, is this Connor, by the way?" And it's not exactly being hit on, but stopped it before it could get there. - Right, right. - That's the first one. I think it's a stock image. - I've actually had something similar happen to me.

- I have a lot of questions about the stock image. - Why is there a potato there? - What is that stock image? - I don't know. These are all strange stock images. So she's just saying no to the potato.

- But like, yeah, I've had similar things happen to me where I'm not gonna name what messaging app or whatever it was on. But like I've realized that you could find my username obviously pretty easily through this messaging app. And I would get like people adding me and just messaging me randomly on it.

- That was a humble experience to realize, oh, okay, I can't just- - I fucked up. - Yeah, I fucked up. I can't use this email for everything now. - All right, the classy, the fan mail, the actual handwritten letter.

- Oh, like physical fan mail. - Yeah. - Okay, okay. - Was this sent to your PO box? - This was sent to my PO box, yeah. - Okay, okay. I was about to ask how they found your address. - PO box, you know, had a few letters that were asking if I was, you know, 'cause they would know what conventions I'm going to and then they would say, "Hey, is it possible that maybe we could, you know, go on a date or something?"

And obviously, you know. - I never got that even when I was single. - No? What? Maybe the time has changed, Joey. YouTubers weren't cool back then, you know. - Right. - This is like two, three years ago. This used to happen. It didn't happen that often, but like people would attach their numbers and like- - I never had that. Did you ever have that?

- I mean, by the time when I first started really blowing up on the anime community, I was already pretty much dating Sydney. - Oh yeah. - And you know, if like Sydney makes a, she marks her territory. - She boards off the laser eyes. - The predators also out of their stock image, this one. - What is happening? - It's a guy with a beer. - This man's like doing like a parallel park drift while pouring a beer. - The classy. - On a highway.

And then this one is the modern, the fan email. Obviously you would get emails. - Okay, yeah, we still get that. - It's classic, you can get that all the time. - That was a classic.

And then this is the stock image 'cause this is me putting the emails in the trash when you send them to me. - I thought you meant this is all the fan mails we get for trash text. - I hate you, it's not fucking, it's not funny. - All pretty standard so far for YouTubers though. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay. Okay, next we have the extra classy. I would have a, I used to do Patreon fan letters where you could pay to be pen pals with me.

- Okay, that sounds like so much effort. - That doesn't sound like a nightmare is about to happen. - When I made that, I didn't think it was gonna, so it's not on there anymore, but I used to think that it was like, oh, this is such a cool way to connect with me. And I didn't realize about like the logistics. - 'Cause you never do with Patreon. You never think about the logistics until you realize,

I have to do this every month. - Yeah, basically I agreed to write like 20 letters a month, which I'm not good at writing either and I don't like writing. So writing one letter for me takes like 30 minutes. - I've seen your handwriting too. - I hate writing so much. So it was just painful.

it was really frustrating as well. Sorry, I'll go on to how it got hit after, but it was frustrating as well. 'Cause like people would join Patreon for like one month and leave. So I would send out a letter that would just be like, "Hi, how are you? Nice to meet you. Tell me about yourself." And then not get a response. But I'd have to write like seven of those letters a month. - Yeah. - Every month. And I was like doing them all by hand. - How long was the letter itself?

- Like a page or two. - Jeez, that's a long. - For how much a month? - I think it was on like the $40 tier, but that was included with the voice message as well. - So like how much would, let's break this down cost to effort wise. How much would it take you to write a letter? Not long? - I mean, I guess if they paid $40 for 30 minutes worth of work, but I always get distracted and I couldn't focus 'cause I just didn't wanna be doing it. So it was awful. But yeah, I had someone as well, same with the fan letter who was like,

it was this really weird situation where I'm not really sure what happened 'cause I was just being like, "Ah, yeah, cool, I like Pokemon too. "I like these things." 'Cause I would try and be honest and try and make a friendship with them. And then they replied one time being like, "Oh, yeah, so I told my coworkers at work "that I have a boyfriend and I said that it was you." And then they asked like, "Is that okay?" And I was like,

- Sure, I don't give a fuck. I'm not gonna go around saying that. You can say that. - She brings up the C-Dog VA YouTubers. - That's me. - And she's like, "Hey, you wanna see my boyfriend?" - That's my boy right there. - Sebastian, his name's Sebastian. - I'm just thinking, I'm like, is that a brag?

because if they pull up my videos, half of them is either gonna be me reading BL or me in the cosplay. And I think they were from like Midwest somewhere. So very conservative states. So I couldn't imagine they would take too kindly to me being like naked in my room basically going, ah, you know, like, so yeah, that was interesting. That was fun. - Also it's a boyfriend that never like fucking responds to like messages or anything like that. - It's a boyfriend that you- - It's a one way boyfriend. - It's a boyfriend that replies once a month via mail.

But yeah, I ended up getting rid of that because yeah, just stuff like that. - That sounds like effort. - And also it's just way too much effort. And this is the stock image to accompany it. - Oh, lovely. What is that? - This is me writing the reply email to the hit man that they hired if I didn't say yes, that we were dating. And then yeah, this is the obvious. This is called "Nutting During Fan Calls As I Pop." I made a video about this, you should go watch it. It's really old now. - I know the story.

- Yeah, so essentially there was this time where I was doing a fan call as Hitalia characters. - That sounds like cringe already, all right. - So I was doing it with someone else who was doing another voice and we were on the call with the person and I thought like there's some weird breathing sounds coming from them. But like, I was like, huh, it's a little weird, but I didn't think much of it. - Was it Maylin? - It was Maylin.

- You bring a Dacky Macro of someone from like vampire night. - So like, yes. - So like what happened was is that we were on this call, I thought that's weird. And then when we got off the call, it was only like six, seven minutes. I was like, was that weird? That call was weird, right? And he was like, oh no, I don't think so. But I was editing the audio. So I go back and listen to the audio and I'm like, she's definitely nodding. That ain't like, that isn't like,

- That isn't like hyperventilating breath. That is like, it was like slow, deep breaths.

Like that. And I was like, what the fuck? So I made a video about it, but I pitch shifted and changed it. And it sounds even creepier. It sounds like a two year old. - Oh God. - It's scary. 'Cause I wanted to protect their, you know, protect their identity obviously. 'Cause I don't know if it was, I don't know if it wasn't, but like, yo, it don't sound good. - Yeah. - But yeah, there's all, I had cut a lot of people. - That's a bit of yikes there. - How'd you handle that?

- You're playing character, right? So when you do those calls, you're in character. So like when people would say stuff, I would reply as if like in character, like to reject them. - I just like to imagine he's just like, you just hear like, ugh. - Which Italian character were you playing? - I was playing France from Italia.

- But he's like a, I've never watched Italia, but I assumed he was like a bit of a player from what I understood. - I would have loved it if he was playing like Italy and it was just like. - They were playing Italy. - Oh yeah, pasta. - I was playing France, they were playing Italy. - They were playing Italy.

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- Yeah, and like to be fair, it would happen fairly often, but I nearly always cut them 'cause it was just cringe. I'd just be like, "I wanna date Sebastian." And I'd be like, "No, no, no one is worthy of me."

'Cause I would reply. 'Cause like, it's really like, dude, when you're, 'cause when I'm in the zone and I would do these calls, like I would like fully believe in that moment that I was like that. 'Cause you have to, if you want to do it good. - I mean, you're playing a character. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - So when people would say stuff like that, I would just like snarkily just insult them straight away 'cause they loved it. And it was fun. Like everyone, dude, imagine being an asshole and I was like, oh my God, he's amazing. - How long did you do this for?

- These calls? I did them for like two, three years. - How? - No, 'cause when it went well, it was really fun because people had such a genuine like happy response. It was just you had to deal with some weird shit fairly often. And so I was like, all right, I'm gonna head out like the stock image from that call, am I right? - I'm only joking, Mellon. You're probably never that bad, right?

- No, no, she was. She still is. She is worse. I've seen her when she gets around Uteno Prince. All right, next is The Uncomfortable, as if none of them were already. - Yeah, right? - The last one wasn't uncomfortable?

- No, I can deal with that. - Okay. - 'Cause that's in character. That's not Connor, that's Sebastian, that's France. That's not my problem. That's France's problem. - She's getting real hot for France there. - So yeah, so up until very recently, I used to do Patreon fan calls and- - Not in character? - No, as me, as me. So I would offer, and it's gonna sound like a lot, for like $100 an hour to have a call with me. But then if you ask any YouTubers around our size, they'll be like, "Wow, that's too little."

- Yeah. - 'Cause it's just, I know it sounds absurd. It sounds stupid. My parents all thought it was dumb. They were like, "People pay to speak to you, Connor.

- That's absurd. - My parents got the same reaction. - "Why would anyone want to pay to speak to you, Connor?" I'm like, "Mom, fuck off, Mom." So anyway, up until recently, I used to do Patreon fan calls, like I said. I'd call it like generations. I don't really know why, but people would always leave en masse and join en masse. And there was only 10 spots on my call. So only 10 people at a time could get these calls. - All right.

I don't even maybe have like one person who was on it for like two plus years. But the rest of the time it was like rotating people. And like, I had some really fucking uncomfortable ones that I haven't really spoke about. Cause I'm just like, this is so fucking weird, but I mean, may as well speak better now. - Yeah. - So this is one time, this is by far the most uncomfortable where I'd done two calls with a person and they were like, okay. They were like, oh, all right. That seemed pretty decent. It seemed pretty normal. They were from Vegas, you know, from Aki represent. - Yeah, I don't know what you're pointing at me.

- I'm not from Vegas. - And they were like, I'm sorry, I didn't do webcam. It was only ever voice. But one time they were like, can we do webcam? And I was like, all right, sure. I mean, a one-off, right? Like, what's the worst that could happen on a webcam? - Yeah, of course. - You guys know what happened.

And I'm like, okay, sure, sure, let's do it. Let's just do webcam, whatever. You've been on the Patreon for a while, we can do this. So we boot up the call. I turn on my webcam, she turns on her webcam. Yeah, she's naked. She's fully naked, but wearing like body paint, but like you can like- - The look on Ash's face.

- Luckily, she was over age, which just dodged the ball. - Luckily, luckily. - Luckily, thank God. - Otherwise Finna get arrested immediately. But I was like, yo, what the fuck? And then I was like, oh, oh no, the connection's breaking up. And then like- - Can you hear me?

I was like, gosh. - I'm going through the tunnel. - Literally the moment it happened, like it flashed on the screen. I was like smash the red fucking end disc. I was like, fuck man. You know how hard British internet man, it keeps going out. I'm so mad at them, man. - Gotta stay on voice. My internet can't handle the webcam. - Damn the webcam, fuck my webcam just imploded. So I was like, fuck, that's awful. It's terrible. And I had some other uncomfortable things come up.

and generally just not very good things happen that was just like, why are they doing this? Like they were just hit on you in really uncomfortable ways. And to the point where it was just like, some people would think that,

you would meet some people who had clearly never been rejected in their circle, right? And then they pay me to talk to me and then I'm like, well, I've never been rejected. So it's not gonna start now. They think I'm gonna like, well, this is a work thing for me. I'm there doing business. - It sounds like you had a fucking babe station call center going on.

- It's great, 90% of people, it was chill. It was just talking to them, maybe give them a bit of YouTube advice, maybe help them with things. Super normal calls. It's just like some people were like, bro, this is my in, this is my way to get Connor to hang out with me and all that stuff. And all sorts of weird shit. Like people would go around and-

Like I think recently I used to do like voice recordings. I still do to be fair. They're really easy, but people would go around, take the voice recordings and say, look, me and Connor are best friends. Like Connor, I have a message from Connor saying hi to me. We're kind of like best friends. And I'm like, do people not like, why do people do this? Why do you think you're getting clout? - Are you comfortable with that? - That's whatever.

I wouldn't be comfortable with that. - I would not be comfortable with that. - I don't know, that's me. - Someone going around saying that they're a friend of mine to like get their way is like not cool with me. - I mean, it's also, you know, it's big brain. 'Cause you know, I could be like, anytime I, let's say right, God forbid, I say something stupid on a live stream. I'll be like, no, no, no, it's recording it. It's recording it. Patreon recording, not me. Fuck, what's that? No, I'm kidding, I'm kidding. - For now, when Colin gets canceled in two years. - When I get canceled, I'll be like, guys, no, that was a script. - Just watch this one clip get linked.

- I'm kidding, I'm kidding. - I was playing France from Italia the whole time. - I never record anything inappropriate. It's just like, obviously, 'cause some people want like an uplifting message 'cause they've been down recently. And I'm more than happy to do that. 'Cause I'm like, you know, if me giving you a voice message saying, "Hey man, just, you know, things will get better.

Just keep trying. - I mean, I've done that before as well. But at the same time, if I found out that that person- - Oh, I don't give them voice messages anymore. - Yeah, I was going around telling people, "Hey, I'm best friends with Gigg. - I'm best friends with Garnt." And I'm just like, "Okay."

Get the fuck out of my life, please. - I mean, that's why I emailed them basically saying, "Hey, yeah, I'm removing you from Patreon. What the fuck are you doing? This is sad." - Yeah, of course. That's not cool. - Because the worst thing was that she wasn't going around to like her close friends. For some reason she was going around sending them to other YouTubers.

saying I'm friends with Connor, look, I have this message. And unfortunately some of those YouTubers didn't know that I was doing the Patreon. - But I mean, I've gone through that as well where I've had people going around saying that they know me and saying that they have been friends with me when they weren't just to try and get in with other people. And it's like, that's the biggest fucking red flag for me.

- But that's why, that's kind of one of the big reasons as well as time is why I removed the ability to call me on Patreon. I don't do it anymore. You can't have a phone call with me. - I mean, I think the worst thing that happened to me was it literally happened to me at a convention where I had a guy who was going around telling people, telling companies,

that they knew me and that they were trying to use that as an in. - That's somehow even worse, isn't it? When they're going around to like companies. - 'Cause they're potentially ruining your name. - Yeah, yeah, exactly. - But they're also trying to profit themselves, right? - Yeah, see, I can deal with someone being a fucking creep. That's insular. I can just immediately shut that down, right? If someone does that, that's repairing I have to do. That's horrible. Luckily, you know, that's why- - I guess that's why it triggers me so much. I hear that and I just think,

to like the shit I had to deal with then. - This motherfucker. - The audacity of this bitch, man. - I would gladly have someone hit on me on a call a hundred times rather than them go to a company saying that we're friends. You know what I mean? 'Cause I can, you know, that's fine. - Don't do that. - Do not do that. That is the biggest asshole move you could do. - We have gone in 50 years as the- - It's Iggy. - I don't know what the stock image is.

- What the fuck did you get this image from? - I don't know. - What is this? Is this like Asian Humpty Dumpty? - You type in Egokin, this is what comes up. - So this is the real, I was at a coffee shop one time, in good old Swansea.

And I'd recently just broke up with my ex-girlfriend at times, very sad. And so my housemate took me out for coffee. And we were just like, you know, he just wanted to talk to me and just keep me uplifted, you know? And I love coffee, I love talking. So this is the perfect combination. And whilst I was at the coffee shop dressed in like sweatpants, miserable,

some person, what looked to be like a 15 year old girl, I shit you not, this is by the way, I was like 20, comes up to me and I know they're coming to me. You know how I know? They got a fucking, they have like the scout leader, scout regiment backpack from Attack on Titan. And I saw them looking at me. I could see this eye contact not breaking coming up to me. And no joke,

She was like, "Can I sit down and join you for coffee?" And she's like 15 and her friend is like right there. And I'm like, "What is happening?" I think that's like kind of inappropriate. Like, I don't really know you. I don't really wanna do this. I mean, it's not really being hit on 'cause she's underage, but like, yeah, it was just kind of uncomfortable.

- What? I thought like a picture, sure, okay. I'm totally fine with doing pictures or signing anything you want. I don't care about that. But like, you wanna just sit down and start talking next to- - Don't invite yourself to like that kind of thing. - Yeah, I don't know, it's weird. But they're a kid, they didn't know any better. - Yeah. I mean, that's happened to us a few times, I would think. - It's happened at conventions quite a bit.

- Yeah, it happens at conventions. - At conventions I expect it, but like we go outside just chilling and I was pretty beat up at the time and I was really fucking sad. - You wanted the best mental state. - I was really fucking sad and having like a girl come up to me just being like, "Hey, can I sit next to you?" I'm like, "I really don't wanna do that." - "I don't wanna do anything with any women anymore." - It was literally like the day of as well. So I was like fucking miserable. - 'Cause I think about that and I think she'll probably look

at that period of her life and just fucking cringe. Because I can like, not saying you should do it or not saying, you know, I'm justifying or anything because you shouldn't do that. But I know that, you know, when you're that young and you feel like you have a parasocial relationship, you don't know about this stuff, especially you don't know about, you know, the social boundaries and she'll probably grow up and she'll look back at that and she'll wake up in a cold sweat and think,

Why the fuck did I do that? - Literally you can approach me anywhere. Even if it's in a fucking toilet, I don't really give a shit. Just as long as I'm not pissing or I'm eating or drinking. - Please don't do it when I'm pissing. - While I'm pissing and eating, just please don't. 'Cause I just wanna finish my meal. It's what I look forward to most of the day. - It's the few times where we can have full privacy. So just give us that privacy. - Not even that, I just wanna enjoy my meal. I just love food so much. I don't wanna have to think about, oh fuck, I gotta take a picture of my steaks going cold. But yeah, and this is the stock image to go along with it.

- I had a, you know how I told the story about- - I think you told the story. - This is the exact face he made when he saw me. - Yo, Joey. - He's like, yo, it's Joey. - I'm like, dude, my dick. - Yo, that's your dick? - I'm like, dude, my dick's out, man. - I recognize there's 10 inches anywhere. - He's like, don't pog at me, my dick's out right now, man. Like, stop. - You literally pog chomped your dick?

- I've mentioned the next story before, but yeah, this is the hotel key card one. - That shit was fucking crazy. - This is the stock image that I chose to go along with it. Did you know actually, this is the same trio. - Is that Ludwig? - No, no. - Tell me that doesn't look like Ludwig. - This is the girlfriend meme, right? - This is the girlfriend meme with the guy looking the other way. - Oh, I recognize the guy's face. - It's the exact same model from the girlfriend.

- So yeah, to those who don't know and don't want to go back and watch the episode, essentially what happened was is someone gave me a piece of paper and they were like, this is for you. And on it was the hotel key card and room number that was signed. And it was said there was like times where I could go. And there was a person at the desk next to me who was helping manage the, 'cause when you get the money, you hand it to them. And they were like, "Bro." And I'm like, "Do you want it?"

I don't want it. Needless to say, I immediately gave it to the hotel reception when I was done signing things. And they were like, why do you have this? Not my guy, long story. And this one's called The Bold.

- It's a hotel door. - The ball? - We're at the hotel door. So I told you one story about how there was one hotel room where I was on the bottom floor and we came out and there was the two girls there at midnight. But there was another time where I came back and this wasn't as creepy, it was just kind of weird. It was like middle of the day, like 1:00 PM. - Was this at an anime convention? - This was at an anime, of course it was an anime convention. What else would it be? So,

I think, I don't know how someone found out it was my room. I was pretty careful. Like I made sure, like, that sounds so fucking stupid. Like make sure no one was following me.

As Garnt should have. This is why I do it, even though it sounds like I'm CIA. - I wouldn't have understood until I got followed back to my room. - Yeah, I just don't want people to know. And there was just like, for some reason, one girl who looked like in her thirties, just like, you know how the doorframe is like this, just sitting like this at my doorframe, like blocking the door.

- What? - And I was like- - Well, like the door's here. - Yeah, so that's the frame. That's the frame. - Okay. - And this is the other frame. - So they're just there right in front of your door. - Yeah, and I was like, "Hello?" And they were like, "Oh, I like your videos." And I'm like,

I'm like social skills, 10,000. I was like, oh, okay. I mean, awesome. Like you want a picture? And they were like, yeah, sure. That'd be awesome. And we took a picture and then they just left. And I was like, cool. I don't have to say anything. Awesome. Cause I was like, I didn't know what was going on. I was like, why are you in front of my hotel room door? We're on like the fifth floor. And this is like nowhere near the elevator or anything. Like this is really far away. I think maybe they want it. I don't know if they knew me.

Obviously they did when I went, but my first thought was like, are they just chilling here? 'Cause I get it. 'Cause sometimes the lobby's really crowded and shit. You wanna just go to the alleyway or whatever in the fucking rooms 'cause they're long. I was just like, oh.

How did you know this was my door? That's really concerning. I wanted to ask her. Never found out. So to this day, I don't know why she was in front of my door. I don't know what she wanted. Again, this isn't a very good guy getting hit on. This is just strange ways people approach me. - This sounds like a lot of strange things that have happened about you getting stalked. - Just gonna say hit on. We're gonna put it all under the umbrella. - This is the YouTube clickbait. We're gonna say hit on in the video. - Yeah, this is actually YouTube clickbait. This is true. And then this is the stock image that I found for this one.

Although there is that one story. - RIP to all the audio only listeners. - This does make me realize about the person who isn't on the list, but the person who named their baby after me. Have we told that story? - We haven't told that story. - So back in like when I was redoing Black Butler a lot, there's this one person,

who, oh, this was it. I just remember the canonical order in my head. I went to the Black Butler meetup one time. - The canonical order. - The canonical order of the- - This is head canon, this is head canon. - This is head canon order. - They say in the filler arc, it's the canon. - So what happened was is I, this was like my first ever AX and I can't remember how long I was doing YouTube

but I thought it would be cool just to go to the Black Butler meetup and just like say hi, hey man, like I'm the guy on YouTube with all the Black Butler stuff, right? And just say hi and just, you know, it was just to meet them and just meet all the fans of Black Butler and just be like, yeah, this is fucking sick. And they were all really nice. And there's one person who was like really, really nice, super, super nice. And,

- Yeah, and she was really nice. We got loads of pictures with her and she's a little intense, but that's fine. You're used to that. - I mean, all Black Butler fans are quite intense, to be fair. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. But like, 'cause some of them are like, some of them are just there, don't give a shit about watching my videos. But there was a good, I'd say like half there were like, "Oh my God, yo." - 'Cause you were the Black Butler guy back then, weren't you? - Well, yeah, I mean, in terms of YouTube, I was the only one making content about Black Butler.

- 'Cause it was like how many years after Black Butler are dead? - Yeah, I feel like I almost made like a mini like renaissance of the fandom almost in terms of Western. 'Cause it's like the community became way more active and like on- - Kind of like what Yu-Gi-Oh! The Abridged Series did for the Yu-Gi-Oh! anime back in the day.

- I mean, I don't wanna say it was like that heavy, but I feel like it was definitely a bump because of all the black butler stuff I was pumping out. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - The stuff, but anyway, so a year goes by, right? And I go to the, you know, they're messaging me telling me, "Oh, you have to come back to the black butler meetup again. "I have a big surprise for you."

And so I'm like, all right, okay, sure. I thought it was like a gift or something. They were making out to be like, so I was like, okay, sure, I'll get it. I'll take a picture. I'll come, why not? This is the point where I was trying to distance myself from Black Butler. But I was like, okay, cool, I'll come. And so I go, yeah, Lord behold, she's holding a baby. Like literally like two month old baby. I don't know how old this baby is. Fresh, fresh baby. - Fresh baby. - Fresh out the oven. - Freshly made baby. - Not a single wrinkle on this baby. And she's like, oh, do you wanna hold Connor?

I'm like, "Connor?" And I'm like, "Oh, that's a funny coincidence." I said, "Oh no, no, it's not a coincidence. I named him after you." And I'm like, "Okay, this is fucking weird." - This is fucking weird. - My favorite ever photo is of you holding baby Connor with the most uncomfortable smile I've ever seen. - How'd you even react to that? - Just pure confusion. And again, you gotta understand Garnt, I just go with everything. - His face, his face all of the time.

- I mean, yeah, I get it. I would do exactly the same thing. - I wanted the picture to reflect like how uncomfortable I was so that I could like tell the story later on. Yes, there's a picture out there. If you just Google Connor with baby, maybe I don't fucking know. - Connor with baby? - Seadog baby. - Seadog baby. - Well, I don't know what the fuck comes up. - Seadog VA2. - To be fair, this baby was fucking cute. But like there was something wholly uncomfortable about holding a stranger's baby that I just, I don't know.

- It's like holding someone's expensive vase. - I still don't know how to handle babies. Like someone asked me if I wanna hold their baby and I'm just like, does it come with an instruction manual? What do I do? Like I feel so inadequate when it comes to handling babies. - They're great for the 10 seconds where they're not like crying. And then the moment you pick them up and they start crying, I'm like, oh God, oh God, what do? - Stop, please, please stop.

- Stop, stop, stop. - Yeah, but like, you know, as odd as that is and almost creepy, you could say. - Yeah. - I mean, it's flattering more than anything, I guess, but it was- - I mean, don't get me wrong. - They were very nice. - It's probably flattering in a sense, but- - It's flattering. I just, I would feel that if anyone named a baby after me, that's a bit too much pressure on me. - I feel like naming your baby after any influencer is a bad idea. - Did you find it, Bailey? What did you type in?

- Okay, man found it by typing in C-dog baby. - I just think it's a bad idea naming your baby after any influencer. We all know we're just one bad two way from being. - Don't name your kid after your favorite YouTuber, that's weird. - It's like getting a tattoo of your favorite YouTuber. - Luckily it was just Connor and not C-dog VA. - I have like no idea how Corpse husband feels whenever.

- When he sees like his voice, like what would you call it? - It's his wave form. - The wave form of him breathing as a tattoo. I'm just like, man, how do you handle that? - Yeah, so that was, that's how that happened. - Yeah, that is very bold indeed. - That is very bold.

- I've got like the next one, it's called the smooth paper. I've been handed a piece of paper before just at conventions, you know, I'll just like sign something or I'll take a picture and I'll try a piece of paper. And I'll be like, hey, here's my number, come text me. I think that's kind of smooth. That's very old stuff. I don't know why it's smooth. I never replied to any of them 'cause I'm like, bro, my phone doesn't work in the US, sorry, rip. I just have internet.

It's very smooth. I like it. I actually liked that one. I think it's classy. - Now you're gonna get this at every convention. - It's like with this one, it's not intense. It's like, if I wanna call you, I'll call you. I'm not gonna call you, just letting you know. 'Cause I'm too fucking busy. - It's just the casual, right? That's how I imagine people. - There's something simple about it that's so inoffensive. But maybe it's 'cause I'm a guy. I feel like if I was a girl and guys kept doing it to me, I'd be like annoyed. - Yeah, that'd be very creepy.

- It is very flattering when someone is attractive and they hit on you. It's like, oh wow, this league? Really? - Oh no, get out of here. - I thought we weren't even playing the same sport. - I thought I was playing checkers, you're playing 40 chess. This don't match.

But yeah, I mean, you know, I mean, it's a nice ego boost for like 20 minutes until you realize that like- - Until you realize it's a bit weird. - Until you realize, fuck, this is a bit strange, isn't it? Golden rule, don't fuck your fans, right? - Yeah, exactly. Especially in this climate, I just think that's a good rule to stick by, honestly. - Yeah, dude, whenever I used to, 'cause for the first like two, three months in Japan, I was using, I had like Tinder, 'cause I thought, oh, no one's gonna recognize me on Tinder, fantastic. But yeah, those people who recognize me on Tinder here,

who could speak English obviously, and obviously a white guy would stand out. And they were like, "Oh, I watch your videos." I'm like, "Immediately unmatch." - Yeah, yeah. - Honestly, like- - See, you did, you played it smart. - It was like, why would I wanna, I don't wanna date someone who turns up and they're like,

- I love that video you used. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. - Well, because unfortunately there's a lot of YouTubers who probably use that as an ego boost, right? - I mean, okay. Getting in the whole topic of fucking your fans or dating your fans. There is a way to go about it that works. - There is a right way and there is definitely a wrong way. - Like Dunkey and Leia, they met through being fans. And no one ever would question the relationship

what's the word? - Legitimacy. - The legitimacy or the efficacy of that, right? That's legitimate relationship. But there are ways doing it that are like taking advantage of your power. And I think that's where people have the problem. And unfortunately a lot of YouTubers don't understand when they are just kind of taking advantage of their own power in the situation.

- I feel like hooking up, like I say hooking up, hooking up is the wrong words because if hooking up with your fans implies that, yeah, you are just kind of just like- - You're not pursuing anything. - You're just kind of throwing your fame out there and everything like that. And I feel like you have to be really self-conscious about this. And I'm glad that people are like,

looking more into this and like putting more attention. - Fans are getting smarter about it as well. - Yeah, fans are getting smarter about this as well as they really should be. And it's the responsibility you hold as a YouTuber. And sometimes you just don't wanna worry about that. You just wanna meet someone where you don't wanna have to worry about this power imbalance because you are, you know, we're all just people as well. We're all just people. And sometimes we just wanna switch off this part of our lives and just be a normal fucking person like anyone else. - Yeah, I don't want someone who's,

watches my videos and has an expectation of me in general that I can live up to. - That is portrayed through your videos. - It's funny 'cause most of the friends I've made who started off as fans, like as we became friends, they just started watching less and less of my stuff. And that's because that's, in a lot of the ways that made me more comfortable or we stopped talking about it because they were just mates and we would talk like mates and talk about,

whatever else apart from my job as I'm sure they stop. - I kind of feel that works in the same way with like friends between two YouTubers, right? It's like, I definitely like watch like less of like my YouTuber friends videos after we just kind of,

went past that point and just became friends. - No, you keep up with it just to see what your mates are doing. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. But you're not like, damn bro, that last video, fucking banger, bro. Like I would have done this differently though. - Yeah, I like showing sports to my mates, you know? But it's different from being like, yo, I'm a huge fan of what you did. Fuck yes, fucking banger right there. - Yeah, yeah, man, life's hard, eh?

If you're a YouTuber, if you want to just be safe, don't fuck your fans. - Rule number one, don't fuck your fans. - It's been working good for me.

- Oh my God. Here's my stock image. - Can you explain why you chose this particular image? - Okay, so there is a Labrador with a gun holding a gun right now. - I don't know, I just thought this one was fun. - Okay, sure. - I don't know, it's just kind of fun, man. - This is what happens when you reach the end of your project and you're just like, "I'll just throw whatever shit I put on." - Oh, we're about halfway. - We're about halfway? Okay, okay. - But the next one's starting to get a bit more obvious.

- Okay. - You've been hit on the YouTube comment section? - Of course, yeah. - Of course. - Yeah, of course. - Yeah. - Take me on a date next time I visit Japan. That happens. - Yeah, that happens a lot. - I've got a few of those comments and it's like, no, how about you pay for my date? - Yeah. - I wonder if anyone is ever in the history of YouTube, probably has, would have taken a comment like that seriously and tried to pursue it.

- I mean, maybe if you like, if you're a smaller YouTuber maybe. - I mean, I did something similar along with like email. Someone emailed me asking me to go on a date. - Yeah, but there's a difference between an email and a YouTube comment. - True, true, true, true, true. - Anyone can write a YouTube comment. - They're live. And then obviously, you know, people ask you on dates on live streams all the time. You're streaming. I get comments sometimes being like, "Oh, are you on a date? Are you going to Japan?" People subtly ask questions that are like, I think that they think they're being subtle.

but it's very obvious what they're asking. Like for example, one very big giveaway as to what some people are asking are like, "Hey, would you ever do like long distance relationship by the way?" And like some people might genuinely be curious, right? But there's like a way that certain people ask it that is like, no, no.

It's like kind of gives you that vibe of like, you're asking this for a purpose. And also I get donations sometimes, which I think that's another one actually, but where people will be like, oh, I'm just like wondering like what kind of age group do you go for? If it isn't obvious by now, milfs. That's mother knows best.

- All the MILFs rise up right now. - So, you know, if you're around my age. - Lonely housewives. - This is your time to shine. - They're preparing their walls for the next stream. - Is your husband just not cutting it? I don't want to know who he is, but let him. I'm kidding.

Yeah, I mean, yeah, stuff like that. What else do I get? There's ones as well. You know what I get asked a fair amount, which is like the least subtle, which is like, would you ever date someone who like doesn't do YouTube? And I'm like, would you think I exclusively date psychopaths? Like, was that what you think?

- No, I only exclusively date YouTubers. - That's weird. - If you don't have at least 10,000 subs. - Well, you guys date YouTubers, but I couldn't imagine dating a YouTuber. - I mean, I started dating her when she had like less than a thousand subs, so it's a little bit different. - I mean, I convinced my girl to become a YouTuber. - Oh, so you brought them into the play. - Yeah, we brought them in. - I wouldn't want my significant other to be a YouTuber. - Why? - I don't know. I don't want to fucking deal with another me. That's fucking awful.

And like my schedule is such a mess already. I wouldn't like a relationship to me like that would be such a fucking mess if both of us had similar schedules like that. - I don't blame you. There's lots of people who are like that. - I mean, that's just what I want. - I feel like that's just how our relationships ended up. - It's just a standard work schedule. - I didn't like this stock image, which is a... - Again, doesn't really have anything to do with the point, but it's a funny stock image. - I just wanted to put a stock in there. Donations again.

- The charitable. I'm pretty sure these are called simps, right? - Yeah. - These are called, yeah. - You can't say that anymore. - Oh yeah. - Band of Twitch. - No, I like to call them prime members.

- Tier three subs. - Are you a prime member? Well, we're going on a date soon. Yeah, obviously you get that a lot. Actually Instagram message requests, get that a lot. - Do you actually check them? - No. - I do. - I do every now and then just 'cause I find. - I used to, I used to. - Yeah, I used to as well. And then I realized that these are useless and I stopped checking it. - People just, it's like throwing a coin down a well hoping for it to grow into a tree, right? It's like, it's not gonna happen.

But yeah, this is the stock image to go along with it. I don't really know- - What is happening? - They're on a car bonnet and- - Definitely having sex. - I'm not really sure what's going on. - I have no idea what's going on there. - Yeah, so that's the Instagram messages. Completely useless, don't do it. It's not gonna work.

Unless you have a shit ton of followers, I think it pops up on the Instagram tells you. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Someone begs message. - It's like some kind of threshold of followers. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - It's like having that blue tick mark on Twitter. - True, true. - I'm Twitter, yeah. - Already mentioned this one, but just Tinder. - Yeah, I mean.

- Wait, is that the same girl in front of the burning house? - It does look like her, doesn't it? - It looks like her, doesn't it? - Oh yeah, it kind of does. - Yeah. - Could be. - It could be. - Maybe she found a nice career in stock images afterwards that. - Who knows? Also, actually believe it or not, I've been hit on on Fiverr. - Of course you have. - No joke. - Of course you have. - No joke. - Why am I not surprised? - I legitimately had a seller. - Sell your services? Is that it?

- I've got a great deal for you. Let me give you a custom offer on Fiverr.

- So yeah, actually funny enough, they're already good sport about it though. But they were basically just kind of like, I think I had hired them for one of the videos and I think they were an artist. - What were they trying to buy from you? - No, no, no. So I hired them. And then when the video came out, they were like, "Oh, thanks for including me in the video." But I don't know if you like wanna ever like just call or hang out.

- Oh my God. - Here's my discord and I'm like, oh, okay, all right, okay. - This man's an absolute chick magnet. - No, no, this is what I'm saying, right? When you have, you know, you get, how many fucking views do we get a month on our own channel? Like eight, nine million views a month, right? All it takes is one person to think I'm attractive. Why? I don't know. To then go on and then do something, right? I don't think I'm inherently more attractive than anyone or most people. - Yeah, but the thing is that like- - You just have a platform, like really.

But the thing is that like, I've never experienced that. I don't think Garnt's ever experienced that. - Really? - Well, not to this. - But also, I feel like your content- - Yeah, I do videos about like dating and stuff. - Yeah, yeah. I mean, it doesn't surprise me. - I guess you do appeal more to that kind of crowd. - Anyone who like has, because a lot of your content base started off with literal fan interaction.

- Yeah, yeah, it's all started from that. - For me, I literally didn't start, like even for most of my videos, I don't show my face on my videos at all. - Whereas we don't give a shit about our fans. - Yeah, you're a fucking scum. My whole YouTube career in the start was built off interaction and I'm very grateful for that. - Which is why it doesn't surprise me why some of the weirdest fan interactions have come from you. - I guess so, yeah, that makes sense. - If you give avenues for people to talk to you, they'll find a way to hit on you. That's how it works. This is the stock image.

- Oh my God. That was me at the end of the figurine challenge. - True, true, true. - That's what it felt like. - I wonder what the direction was here. I'm curious. - Hey kids, swallow this fish for us real quick. - All right, gotcha fam. - Viking kids eating a meal. - How much are you getting? $5 for this? - All right, see. - Next time, I've been asked out if I'd like to go drinking with someone at a panel.

- In front of other people? - In front of the whole panel. - Yeah, I've had that. - Like two women who are, I guess in my preferred demographic of older women who are like, "Oh, would you like to?"

Connor's like, "I'm listening." Connor goes through his analytics and he picks by demographic. He's just like, "Get rid of all this. This is like 25 to 30." No, none of that. Too close to age. - 35 to 45 though? Ooh. - Okay. - Legit, I think it was this,

- Two women, right? They were, I think one was the aunt and one was the mother of the daughter they brought along. And she just sticks her hand up and she's like, "I have no idea who you are, but I like your voice. Would you be willing to have drinks with us later?" - The mom said that. - The mom said that. I've never seen a child go from like smiling to anger so fast. The child's like, "Mum, mum, mum."

- I was like, I was gonna say that. - I was just like, yeah, I'd love to like laugh jokingly. Never did. I actually, honestly, if they came up to me afterwards or found me at the bar, I'd have been like, okay, I love talking. I don't know, moms are so fun to talk to at anime conventions.

Not in the hitting on way, just in general. They're so fun, dude. 'Cause they don't give a fuck and they're like, "I don't know what the fuck is happening, but I'm the cool parent that was willing to come to the anime convention." - To be fair, yeah, to be fair, if it's at a signing and a mom or a dad comes with their son or daughter- - They're always so chill. - And they're the best people to talk to. - Honestly, they are pretty chill. - See? - Yeah, they are. - Maylene's trying to make it creepy. It's not fucking creepy, Maylene. - It's 'cause you specifically said mums. - Yeah.

- Like I love talking to parents at conventions. - No, no, no, dad's, no, no, no. - Give me all the moms. - No, no, no, no. I've had like, wait, I don't know if it comes up later. I'll tell it later. But basically there was this one guy I've had before, like his kids really liked me. He was like, "Oh, can I buy you dinner or something?" I'm like, "Oh, fucking sure, why not? "I'll talk to you." - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - "We'll hang out, be nice." And it was nice getting to know him and his kids. So that's cool.

- Yeah, I've had the same things with like dads as well. If a dad's willing to like get involved in this shit, then they're a cool fucking dad. - Yeah, because I, you know, when that happens and they show passion about like what their kid's passionate about, I think it's so fucking cool. - That's a good parent. - I wish my parents did that 'cause my parents didn't do that. They would never do that to this day.

- I think the proudest mom I've ever seen was, it was at AX and we had signings and then two little kids come and they were cute and stuff. And then the mom looks at me and she like sees my name and everything. And she goes, ask me in Thai, are you Thai?

And then I reply in Thai and then we have this conversation and she was just like, "I am so fucking happy that my kids are looking up to a Thai person. Thank you for representing the Thai people. I am proud of you. Thank you very much." - I had the opposite once in Finland where the mom was a big fan and the daughter-

the daughter had no idea what it was. Like the mom came up and was like, "Can you sign this?" - God, I wish that was me. - It's like, "Can you sign this?" And I was like, "Yeah, sure." And I looked at the daughter and I was like, "Okay, what's your name?" I looked at the daughter, I was like, "What's your name?" And the mom was like, "No, no, no, it's me."

- Oh, okay. - 'Cause I feel like for like Southeast Asian parents, right? Anytime you talk to a Southeast Asian parent, whenever you meet someone else who's the same race, every Southeast Asian mother, especially, they go into Southeast Asian mom mode, right? So the first thing she legit asks me after finding out I'm Thai and just asking the basic questions is, "Have you had any Thai food recently?"

'Cause I can- - You gotta eat good Thai food. - Yeah, you gotta have good Thai food. I could recommend you some places if you're missing some Thai food. I'm just like, dude, I honestly, I'm like, thank you so much. I'm going to take this advice to heart. - That's so fucking awesome. - Honestly, yes, I am missing Thai food. I am missing home. - 'Cause I also like, moms or like parents have come up to me and like, do you want a water? You look like you're like tired. I'm like, thank you.

"I'll take this, thank you, that's so kind of you." - I've had like a dad like just slip me a 20 being like, "Buy yourself a beer after this, man. "You're working real hard today, son." I'm like, "Oh, thanks, man." - I had one time similar to that, but there was actually an old patriot of mine met me and her grandma came and she must've been like 70, 80, I'm not sure. And she was just so impressed that I wrote in cursive,

She was like, she was like, like in like the most like Hick, like not Hick, it was kind of like Midwest and kind of like, oh, you know, it's just not right. They, they teach the kids here. They don't teach them how to write cursive. It's not right. I,

I really liked that you keep the old ways alive. And I'm like, I'm just British. I have no fucking clue what you guys are doing. I don't know if it's that good because no one can read my fucking handwriting. I mean, honestly, what your kid's doing is probably pretty good actually. Yeah, also stock image. I actually found one that was fitting for this.

Pregnant lady with a gun. - With a gun, with the tiniest gun I've ever seen. - That's like a BB gun. - That's like a German pistol, like World War II that looks like. - That's like the spy gun, but then we hide in a post. - Is this a scene from like "Inglorious Busters" or something? - This is definitely a frame taken from a Quentin Tarantino. Fuck, oh yeah, yeah, this was so much.

This wasn't being hit on, but this is just a funny story I wanted to tell. So one time there was, I was at a convention and I have actually had this guy on Facebook still. So he's really nice, but it was just, it was very strange and things get added on and adding on where I went to it and they were like, okay, so you, when you go to a convention as a guest, you typically, if it's like a big convention, you'll get like a handler. - It's like an assistant.

- Yeah, basically someone who makes sure that you turn up to your appointments on time and also if you need anything or like you say you're signing things and you run out of Sharpies, like, "Can you give me a Sharpie real quick?" They'll do stuff like that. And the guy I had, he was like, "Oh yeah, my daughter's a big fan." I'm like, "Oh, cool, cool. That's awesome." He's like, "Would you mind like saying hi to her?" And I'm like, "Yeah, of course, of course. Like I'll hang out with them." And then he was really nice and he helped me out a lot. He always like got me whatever I needed. And then he was like, "Yeah, do you wanna like come for like a family dinner with me?"

And my family was like, "Oh, okay." I mean, I felt like I had to say yes, but I was like, "Oh, sure. I mean, of course, I don't mind." - I mean, this guy's helping you out, right? - Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, I literally had nothing better than you. I was like, "Yeah, sure, why not? You did really nice. So I'd love to meet your family." His family was like,

- Jesus Christ. - And like half of them knew who I was and half of them didn't care. But it was like being in the middle of a half a dozen, what's that movie called? Like double dozen, what the fuck is that? - I know what you're talking about. - I was like in this and I'm like- - Five a dozen or something like that. - Something like that. But it was really cool 'cause I think,

I think he was like a foster parent or something. And it was really cool. The story was really unique. Not being hit on by the way, I don't know. Quite the opposite. Just thought it was a cool story to tell. Just thought it was really odd that I got like roped into this. And I was like, what is happening? Why is there 12 kids?

- All I can envision is that scene from Annie where they're all like eating on the really long table and you're just in the middle. - I'm in the middle of the kids and I felt bad 'cause the dad was trying to talk to me, but obviously all the kids were like, "Yeah, it's a YouTube." And they wanted my attention. They kept asking me questions and they'd be like, "Do you pay taxes?" And I'm like, "Well, that's a four year old asking you this like, "Are you avoiding taxes?"

- Are you the IRS? - Yeah, it was just pretty cool. I thought it was a fun story. - Oh God, why? - That was just a morbid stock image. - This is a hell of a stock image. - I don't know why this was a stock image, but- - Geddy, why do you have this? - Sometimes you look at stock images and you think in what context would someone want to use this? What was the direction they had?

- Honestly, I do think there is like small markets, a small market of stock image photographers that are like, I'm hoping this is gonna become a meme. I'm betting that this is, I'm gonna take some meme photos and hope that this becomes- - They're all like racing to be the next meme, right? - Yeah, they're hoping to become the next jealous girlfriend meme guy. Like this is definitely giving me that energy right now. - Yeah, for sure. - All right, this is the unexpected, if you will. Let me show you the stock image first of all. What a good stock image.

- That's a Tarantino shot right there. - My cigar with the boys, we kidnap somebody. So yeah, one time, like you said, like the mothers bring the daughters bring the mothers along. And one time there was like, they were both really big fans and I thought, wow, that's so fucking cool. And yeah, I didn't really think much of it. And like,

And she was joking being like, "Oh, you said I look like Tom Cruise." And I'm like, "I do not look like Tom Cruise. I look quite the opposite of Tom Cruise." - This is basically every Reddit post who has a white guy with a beard and is like, "That looks like Connor that day." - Oh yeah, it's Connor, man. Connor's white beard checks out. And then I was like, "Ah, okay." And then they were like, "Oh yeah, are you seeing anyone?" Legit asked me this. - Wait, the mom was? - Yeah, the mom asked me that while I'm signing the daughter's autograph. And I thought, "Oh."

- Yeah, no, not really, not really. She's like, "Oh, okay. I mean, do you want to get a drink later?" And I'm like, "Uh." And I was like, "Yeah, yeah, sure, sure, sure, sure." Thinking like, "Oh, this isn't serious." - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Found out later she was very serious and she was very disappointed that we didn't have that drink. - Right, right. - 'Cause I thought it was joking. - He basically stood her up. - Well, I mean, she didn't tell me anything. - He stood up a milf? - Not proud to say it.

- I'm trying to say it, you know, but yeah, I do. - Connor, I expected that from you. - I believe it was a single mother as well, actually. - Okay. - Oh, that's like your fantasy. - The thing with MILF porn, right, is that you don't see the kids. So that's a big plus, right? I don't wanna fucking know about the kids. Don't tell me about the kid. I don't wanna get involved with them. What's wrong, Maylene? - You get married and they have to call you dad.

- That's so gross. - I mean, some people are into the daddy thing, right? - No, no. It's the fantasy. It's the fantasy. Listen, the problem with the whole like MILF dynamic in real life is there are a lot of hurdles that make it very uncomfortable and very awkward. - I would feel so sorry for the fucking daughter. Imagine being a fan. - I felt sorry for the daughter as well. - Imagine being a fan of a YouTuber and then they become your dad.

- Let's just think about that for a second. - That is a fucking like, that is like a visual novel in the making. He was my favorite YouTuber, but now he's my dad.

- But actually it was the daughter that ended up being like, oh, I'm so sorry. My mom just gets carried away sometimes. Your mom's on like the prowl next to you with her. What's going on? What kind of dynamic? - Your mom's like in cougar mode. - You guys are real close to be like scouting out the prey with each other. You know what I mean? - Mom's like, yo, yo, yo, become my wing woman. Come on, go wing woman. - That's what it was. It was like a wing man. It was crazy. - That's nuts. - Domestic boyfriend.

- It's like love triangles in a porno or a hentai. It's very attractive in a hentai, but you realize in real life, fuck it's a nightmare. - Yeah, it's messy as fuck. - If you have anything like that, it never ends well. - That was definitely unexpected, that's for sure. - That was the unexpected. I actually got hit on Overwatch one time.

- Oh yeah? - That was fun. - How so? - Oh, someone recognized who I was and then I added them. I started playing with them and casually started inquiring about my love life and stuff and that's normal. - Were they like role-playing or anything like this? - I'll be Tracer, you can be Genji. - At which part of your career was this in? - Which part of the career? When did Overwatch come out? It was like literally like three, four months into Overwatch being released. - Oh, okay. - That was a while ago then.

- That was like four or five years ago. - Yikes, I'm old. Whenever rewards came out, this happened. And yeah, I remember just being a bit awkward 'cause they kept asking, like when someone normally inquires about your love life, a bit of uncomfortable amount, you don't really know them, which is fine. I mean, you can ask me about that. I'm pretty open about it. I don't really mind talking about it. But then when you proceed to like ask me like the next step, it's like.

You live in like Norway, I don't know, it's kind of far. I don't even know what's in Norway. There's no benefits to getting married to someone in Norway. I'm joking, I'm joking.

- Yeah, and then this is, yeah, this is it. - This is almost what it was like at the urinal for me. - So when we see each other, the urinal or, what are you saying? - Urinal. - Urinal. - Is that what Americans say? - No, that's what the British say, right? - No, we say urinal. - Urinal. - Yeah. - I thought the British say urinal. - No, Americans say urinal.

- I've never heard someone say urinal before. - I've only heard British people say urinal. - You know what? I get confused on what words I'm saying. I'm British and American 'cause people constantly correct me. Even though I know I'm not wrong. But they say, why does he say it like that? And then I ended up unconsciously changing it. So I go back to the UK and everyone mocks me for sounding American. - I don't even know what, like sometimes I say a word and I don't even know if that's said in a British way or an American way anymore.

- Yeah, but that's it. That's the presentation. Boom, done. Thank you. - That was a hell of a presentation. - Thank you for your TED talk, sir. - Thanks guys. - Why are you clapping, Merlin?

- Clap louder man, I couldn't hear you. - What lessons did we learn? - Conners fans are fucking weird. - If you are a woman above the age of 35. - Is that what you think my demo is? - I don't fucking know. - I don't know. I just like older than me. - Older than you. - Okay, listen.

- How old are you right now, 24? - I'm 24, right? - Okay, so late 20s. - 24 and a half year olds are gonna be like, ooh. - I'm in the zone. - Some people age like wine, man. They age better, man. They get more attractive.

- Why are you laughing man? It's true though. It's true. It's true. - Yeah, I agree. - Some people, like you see pictures of like, you see them when they're younger, like celebrities, you see them when they're older, you're like, holy shit, he's 50, but he's hotter than he ever was. - Yeah. - Right? - I agree. - You know? - Honestly. - To me, it's like, as long as the mindset is there that you're like, you know, you're in my world and you're on the same wavelength of thinking and you treat life the same way, I don't give a fuck about your age. - Yeah. I mean, I feel like,

- As long as it's your heart. - I just don't want you to be younger than me. I don't wanna fucking date someone younger. - I feel like some people just hit a certain age and then they just stop giving a shit about how they look and taking care of themselves, right? Or alternatively, they just think they can get away with the lifestyle they had in their twenties and just bring that to like their entire- - 40s and 50s, right? - Like 30s, 40s and 50s. 'Cause I think being 30 now as the only 30 year olds, I've heard that being 30 is just basically being 20 with one debuff.

- And shit blood. - Yeah, and shit blood, yeah. And yeah, I mean, I feel like some people do age like fucking fine wine and a lot of Asians just don't age at all, I guess, until they reach like this cap and then they just start aging like crazy. - And then they're like, "Oh, oh, we have to age. Oh, okay, okay, on it."

Also going back to the naming after my baby, it wasn't an insult by the way, just wanna make sure that's clear. I don't think that's like a bad thing. Just thought it was very intense. - I mean, I've never heard any other story like that. - It's so overwhelming that you're like, which emotion do I take away from that? - I put myself in your shoes and the biggest, like if I'm like trying to be like POV, you are Connor holding a baby that's named Duffy. I'm like.

- How do I even manage what to say right now? I wouldn't even know how to react. - It's like a mixture of like overwhelming flattery

like what the fuck? Are you sure about this? Are you sure about that? It's like, is this a mistake? Are you gonna regret this? 'Cause I'm not all that. What else can we take away from the PowerPoint presentation boys? What did you learn today? - You get hit on a lot. - No, no, no. It's actually, you know what? So my audience has gone from, as we know, 93%. Recently it went to like 60% male.

- It's because of all the Jojo shit you've been doing. - Yeah, Jojo. I think also there was a good amount of time where I think because of my thumbnails, 'cause of the topics I was covering, YouTube just didn't recommend me to guys. And now it's suddenly starting to be like, oh wait, guys can watch this guy too. And so I started getting a massive influx of guy viewers that I never had before. And I stopped doing as much yaoi stuff and slowed down on that. But I mean, it's still like nearly, it depends on the month. It depends on the videos I make. It's about 50/50 now, which is nice. And it's slowed down a lot.

But there's ups and downsides, right? Like it was mainly like, I know that I spoke about like mainly like it was like girls coming up to me, but dude, guys hit on me just as much. - Oh really? - Yeah. - Yeah, I've had that as well. - Which is flattering 'cause there was like one dude who was in on my Instagram message request, man was fucking ripped as fuck and I was like, wow, I'm very flattered. This man had like the body of a Greek statue and this man thought I was worthy of being hit on. I was very, I was very flattered. - Oh man, jealous. - Yeah, right, right?

But yeah, I mean, it's whatever, it's fucking YouTube. - Yeah, I mean, what I can take about this is that if there is going to be an avenue, not necessarily to be hit on, but for someone to get in contact with you, 'cause I would say half of these were just, you know, the fan interactions or people trying to get in contact with you. If there's an avenue, people are gonna find a way. And I've definitely felt that as a YouTuber as well.

- I mean, you can hit on me. It's very flattering. I don't care. You don't have to stop doing it. Just don't be creepy. - Just do it in a sophisticated way. - Yeah, man, you do it slick. I'll be like, thank you for the ego boost. I'm gonna go away feeling great then. Who doesn't? When you get hit on, you're like, damn, I'm a 10. And then you go back to your hotel room, eat a whole bag of flaming hot Cheetos and realize you're truly a five. - And also, on the opposite end, taking this advice for any young budding YouTubers out there,

like tread carefully with fans hitting on you. - Don't fuck your fans, man. It never works out. - It might work out one 10th of the time, but there's the problem is, is that- - But are you willing to take the risk? - Yeah. - I mean, you have to be really careful. And I think the biggest problem is that whenever you're like a YouTuber starting out, especially when you're a small YouTuber, I feel like this is more a message to small YouTubers

who don't have the experience or don't think they're gonna get big because you don't fucking know if you're gonna get big, right? But you should treat the fans or you should treat your audience

no matter how big you are exactly the same. - Yeah. - And it's, it's stay grounded. - Yeah. I mean, I'm sure there's cringy messages out there of me hitting on someone at 19 that would just embarrass me, but it's again, I'm 19, you know, just fucking idiot. - Yeah, but like you're like kind of- - But it wasn't like hit on fans and be like, "Shamey nudes." You know what I mean? It's just like, just me being an average 19 year old basically. - Yeah, exactly. Like when you're younger, like you don't, you don't really have like the senses to know what exactly is cringe or not.

- Also when you're younger, you're just horny as fuck. - Yeah, exactly. - And you think you can get away with being horny and you grow up and you realize, man, I did a lot of stupid shit back then. - Young, dumb and full of calm, that's what they say.

- Lovely, Joey. Words to live by. But I mean, it's like, 'cause there's some people, you know, there's a lot of YouTubers out there very, very openly happy to admit that they date fans. They're like, well, you know, normal famous celebrities get to fuck their fans and no one bats an eye. And it's like, well- - I mean, yeah, that double standard is like-

- Proliving and it's true but- - The reason why, this is the way I interpret it and why that's the case. That normal celerities, they don't bank on the fact of relatability. They don't bank on the fact of being- - They're like people above the clouds. - Well, their whole, like every like pop star is supposed to be like a character, like an absurd kind of not real person, right? They never pretend to be your friend. They never like pretend to give a shit about you. And if you have sex with them, they'll probably don't give a shit about it, right? Maybe, maybe, right? It's just a joke.

I mean, if you do it with an influencer, right? Gross word, or a YouTuber, right? - Influencer. - I guess it's almost kind of a betrayal of what you built up, which is like a lot of the people who watch us, right? I guess, I don't know if you guys know, you guys feel this way. Like there's a, you form like a bit of a bond, right? Where you like, you respect the creator and you look up to them and you enjoy their stuff and you feel a lot closer to a YouTuber than you would say. And so it's that that's being taken advantage of. - Right, it's because most YouTubers are more, I guess, grounded.

and feel more real. So when you do watch them, you're just like, oh, this is an actual person I'm watching. - Yeah, I would say to be like the right way to go about it is if you're going to get involved with your fans, that you just,

one of the biggest things is you don't do it straight away. You need to treat them- - Start as a friend. - Start as a friend, treat them like a human being, get to know each other first, like any normal fucking relationship. - You need to immediately break down or disassemble any power dynamic in play.

of like fan YouTuber. - You need to put yourself on equal footing. - Yeah, and with stuff like One Night Stands or something, that gets so messy and there's no way to like differentiate, is there a power dynamic there? Is the person gonna do this and then regret it afterwards? And just, it's too messy to be able to justify, I feel. And if there is a right way to go about it

- There's rumors about it, but like most of the time it's like, you know, it's like, do you want to defuse a bomb? Like if you know how to, you want to do that, go ahead. - There's a right way to do it, but it's not worth the risk. - Is it worth the risk? - Literally blowing yourself up in terms of career. Like is it worth it? Or you could just, I don't know,

Do what everyone else fucking does in the world and just date normally. - And I feel like a lot of smaller YouTubers don't like, they don't really think about this because they think I've got nothing to lose. So I'm just gonna do this right now while I can because you grew up in a culture where yeah, you do see, you know, celebrities and like groupies, like sleeping with, you know, music artists and everything like that. And you think, man, that sounds like an awesome lifestyle. I kind of want that lifestyle. So when they get like a,

smidgen of that. They think I got to take advantage of this while I still can. - The rock and roll lifestyle works if you're in that field. The rock and roll lifestyle is not the YouTuber lifestyle. It's two completely different things I find. - Yeah.

- It's tough, it's so tough. And it's like, is it just like, it's not even worth like getting into. - Yeah, 'cause I feel like to get involved in this is it's, you are literally navigating a minefield. - Oh yeah, 100%. It's like, if you really wanna do it, you can do it. But the reason why I think most YouTubers will say don't fuck your fans is 'cause it's just like, it's so much risk you're taking on for no reason.

And to me, it's like, do you really want someone who wants to be with you for your videos? Is that like, why is that attractive? - They're looking at you only for the content you make. - To me, it's a competitive mindset. - To me, that's like a massive turnoff. If they're only with me because of my content, then that's like the same thing. If you're only my friends for my content, then I'm saying you can't be my friend because that's not how I would see a friend. The same way that's how I wouldn't see like a possible partner

or anything like that. - That's like saying like, oh, so if I change my content, then you're suddenly not my friend. - Yeah, yeah.

- There is no bigger turn on, right? Than meeting someone who just likes you for you. - Yeah. - I'm sitting there, I'm thinking like, how the fuck am I supposed to be into this? And then like get my dick hard when all I'm thinking about your thing is like, what's the next upload gonna be? Like, fuck that. No, I want someone who like speaks to me, knows nothing about YouTube and is like, holy shit, like this guy's fucking cool. I like him, he's so nice. - You want people to see you as Connor, not CeeLo. - Yeah.

- Obviously I made it a bit difficult for myself, obviously, but I can still go about it. - Yeah, of course. - You don't wanna be with a girl, be in bed and be like, "Yo, if you enjoyed that session, hit the subscribe button, click the like button." - If we get to 5,000 likes, I'll do round two. - I want a YouTube video of someone trying to do that.

- I feel like, oh my God, yeah. This is so many fucking douche tubers out there who do shit like that as well. I'm sure there's YouTubers out there who just admit every single fucking day like, "Yeah, I fuck my fans so well." And like, I mean, screw them. But if you wanna have like, you know, some- - If you wanna be respected by the community. - Yeah, if you wanna be seen as like a role model, don't know what that is. - I mean, like douche tubers, I feel just exist on a different plane of existence where I don't know how they function or, you know,

I just want YouTubers to have a better rap, right? Like not all of us are fucking psychopaths

- Money hungry. - Validating, chasing, you know, like. - A lot of us are horny motherfuckers and that's just the- - That's just human nature. - We do it the right way. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Mother knows breast on Blu-ray, you know. - We are three horny guys, but at least we're horny on main and we keep to being horny on main and that's pretty much it. - Yeah, pretty much. - Man, a part of me is glad is that I have like YouTube to keep me in check all the time.

Not that I would start doing awful shit if I wasn't a YouTuber, but the fact that there is this kind of like obvious moral lines that it's not like, oh no, man, should I show you? No, no, it's not. - They're like these unspoken guidelines and rules to like make sure you're not overstepping. - Being an ass, right? It really makes me cautious about how I come off to people and what I say to people. It makes me way more conscious about how I speak in a way that I think is,

the way I speak on live streams, the way I speak on the video is how I'll speak to most people in my life. And I like that it's kind of taught me in a way to just, it sounds awful, right? But just give a shit about everything and pay attention even if it is draining at times. It sounds awful. I'm like, yeah, you should have taught me to be not an asshole.

But like, you know how some things you take for granted that you, when you're an individual who isn't like a open person. - Yeah, I mean, for me, it didn't teach me to give a shit about everything, but it did teach me to really question my own values and question- - That's a better way of putting it. - Yeah, and really justify

is this value I hold right? As opposed to like, I just think about, I just think of this way because I was, I grew up in that kind of environment and it really made me self reflect. And I feel like that is like a healthy part of YouTube that has, I think I've become a better person because of YouTube. - Yeah, like it's about that mentality of like, okay, if I wasn't doing YouTube, then do,

is the things that I do and the way that I talk to people and that kind of stuff, would that be still considered respectful to other people regardless of if I had this job or not? Like, would I still be a good person if I didn't have YouTube? And if the answer is yes, then I think you're following it right. - You're very worried if the answer is no. - Well, I mean, you know, look at all the douche-tubers, right? Apparently you can get away with that shit if you have a YouTube channel.

- I don't know, do they get away with that shit though? - I mean, there's a reason why they have an audience. - Are they like a twit longer waiting to happen? - They're definitely like a limit, like they're not gonna be like at the point that they are for very long. - Because I feel like a big, I mean, this is getting to a really deep topic now, but a big problem with a lot of these like apology videos and you know,

a lot of this kind of culture that has been built up. I understand where it comes from, where we do need to keep each other in check and make sure that people aren't abusing their power. But a part of it just makes me feel like, man, people are just treating this like one big reality TV show. - It's not keeping each other check. We've just made it a modern Colosseum. - Yeah, we just gamified it basically.

we can't kill each other. That's the best thing we can do is fucking get at each other's throat. - Yeah, which is why right now, now when I see an apology video or a twit longer, you know, like,

a lot of like, as we said, we were taught to, you know, have to give a shit about this thing. But sometimes I see this and I'm like, I don't have the energy to give the shit, to care about this. This doesn't involve me. You know, sometimes it fucking sucks when I hear about, you know, some person in the community or in some community that I'm not even involved with doing like having like a five,

50 page more like 50 page dissertation breaking down every shitty thing they've done. And I'm like, I'm sorry that this happened. But at the same time, like I don't have the energy to invest myself into this. Can someone literally give me a cliff notes of what's going on? And I'm like, I don't want to be the guy to be like, can you tell me what to think? But there reaches a point where there is too much happening right now that you can, you can. - It's like sensory overload of drama. It's just like,

at the end of the day, all I'm seeing is someone's getting fucking paid leave. That's all I'm seeing. - Yeah. - It's like I have limited time, I have limited energy and I wanna be able to use it on shit I actually care about. - Yeah. - Yeah. Like I would like to care about every big scandal, every big thing that gets brought up on Twitter and you know, that's logically and if I think about it, that's what I want to value but

- Logistically, you can't, you can't. You can't care about this much shit. And I feel like a big problem right now is that this,

this entire environment just feels like Big Brother or this feels like a reality TV show where people care, but do they really care? Like they get to a point where does this really, where I think, does this really involve me? Does this, am I doing something right to society by getting involved with this or am I just feeding the fumes and the fire and just making the environment more toxic than it is? - If you have thick enough skin,

- Nothing stopping. If you don't care that everyone hates you and you're fine with that, then there's literally nothing stopping you from succeeding. - I mean, there's people who make a career off of being hated. - Yeah, plenty. - Yeah. - I mean, it's one of the biggest examples of course, Logan Paul. And one of, I can't remember who said this quote, but it was, you know, I think it was like Muhammad Ali or a boxer where they say, where they said something like, if people will pay to like,

- What was it? People will pay to watch you, to shut you up. - Yeah, people will pay to watch you get punched. - Yeah, watch you get punched or watch you shut the fuck up. Something along those lines. And man, Logan Paul has capitalized that to the max. I mean, I'll fucking admit, I got involved with whenever Logan Paul gets into a boxing match. - I watched the boxing matches, of course I did. I wanted to see Logan Paul get punched a bunch. It was just funny.

I don't really have anything personally against the guy obviously, but like- - It's just entertainment. - It's just fun seeing two usually smack each other in the face. This shit's funny as fuck. - Yeah, yeah, exactly. - I'd do that if the right target came up. I'm like, "Yo, how much money do you need? "Put me in the ring. "Yo, give me some beef, please." - Give me some beef to fight over. - Pay-per-view, pay-per-view? - Yeah. - Like- - God, scary. - Yeah, that's a- - Scary how it's evolved to that point, isn't it? It makes you wonder what the next step is. - We're going back to where we started where, you know, when reality is this entertaining,

Who the fuck needs TV? - That's what I've been saying the whole time, Garnt. Reality's always been more entertaining. - Documentaries over movies. - Yeah, man, you can't make this shit up, man. You can make up all these Harry Potters and Lord of the Rings. That's epic and all. I love those films, but you can't make up the weird shit that happens in real life. And that's been Trash Taste. But you know what hasn't been Trash Taste? Without us reading the patrons, that doesn't make any sense. - That made no sense at all. - Let's do it, let's do it. Trash Taste patrons, woo!

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