Love And How Deep? (ft. ⁨@sydsnap⁩ ) | Trash Taste #248
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- I know, is this the first time you've done a video at this studio? - Yeah. - That's insane. - Last time you were here was the old studio, which was four. - Wait, what episode number was that? - It was like four years ago. - I think it was like episode 25. - This is loud enough, it'll be fine. - Okay, so you are on episode 20. - What are we on now, 250 or something?

- I was just a fledgling. I was just a wee little lass. - Oh, I forgot about the wine special. - I mean, that was like a street. - Wine special. - Jean-Pierre III told me everything I knew. - So actually we didn't plan to have Sydney on as a special guest episode. She was just in the office and we were like, "Hey Sydney, for a beer, do you wanna have a special guest episode with us?" - Honestly, as an alcoholic, I was sold.

- I guess. - You had her on beat. - Oh, we didn't even cheers. - Oh yeah, we should have. - Cheers. - Yeah, shut the fuck up. - This isn't gonna be a usual guest episode. This is just gonna be a normal, oh God, just shoot the shit. - Just shoot the shit. - Laugh it up like a dog. - What were you doing?

- You were still doing just like hentai vids back then, right? - Yeah. - And so you've kind of changed a lot of what you're doing since then. - Have I though? - Yeah, I think so. - Have you really thought about it? I have. - You have? - I just wanted to like... - Hold on, hold on. Your mic is like, do it like, okay, wait. - But now I'm just like, I'm about to like bite it. - No, don't bite it. - No, don't bite, that's not what you're meant to do. - You do not want to bite that. - I don't know, it's kind of looking tempting. - It's been near a lot of mouths. - Now I can actually... - How's the audio, Kai?

- So much bacteria. - I thought you were just blocked by it. - Kai's like, his ears are bleeding. - You have changed, 'cause back then it was pretty much only that, and now you do streaming, you do, and now more like, I feel like true crime kind of stuff. - I like doing things that are banned. - That's like horror, right? - Yeah. - Just before we get to that, before we get to the interview questions, I wanna bring up something else. So I mentioned to the boys that you have this new obsession called,

- Oh. - Called Love in Space. - Yeah. - And I thought this would be-

if we're gonna bring up my complications, my issues into the table. - As your husband, I'm proud of your career. I'm proud of your content that you've been doing. - But let's talk about your passions. - Let's talk about what you've actually been doing. - Is this like one of those things where people gather around and be like, listen, we care about you. - First of all, can you, 'cause I don't fully explain what this is. Can you explain to the people who don't know what Love in Deep Space is, what it is and what you're into, I suppose?

- What I'm into? Okay. - We've heard like the basics. - Yeah, I've given secondhand accounts. - So like, I first heard of Love and Deep Space when they sponsored me like a year ago when they first began. - Oh, they sponsored you? - They did, that's how I began. - Oh, really? - And when I saw it, I was kind of like,

It's just like anime guys showing off their pecs, you know, who cares, whatever. And then it wasn't until like Emily was just like, hey, I'm obsessed with this guy. He's like a yandere. And I'm like obsessed with the yandere guy. So I'm like, okay, say less. And then I started playing it. And initially, I'm not going to lie to you, it's kind of like kind of cringy to me because it's just like guys just being like, oh, God, you're so beautiful. You're so hot. And I'm just like, okay, guy in my phone. Okay.

But then it's like, as a story, like this is where they get you. It's like, cause each time you pull for like, you get like five, five guys, five guys. And then like, I love five guys. Pull for five guys. If I could have five guys at once, but anyway, so if I was just saying,

So you have five guys, all with different things. - This episode is just gonna be the out of context winner award. - There's five guys. - Then there are all different personalities and you're kind of like, okay, say a little typical, oh, Otome guy personalities. But then as you go on, you start on, you get it, it becomes a little more than Otome. It becomes spicy. So you have to roll for memories.

- Of these guys. - Memories, okay. - And these memories are like what you use to fight with in the game. - Wait, you fight in this game? - Yeah, you fight. - Who are you fighting? - What are you fighting? - Like space monsters.

- Okay, I've heard a lot about this game. This is the first time- - You didn't know that? - I thought it was like a visual novel. - No. - When I did my ads, that never came up as like a mechanic to promote. I had to do a skit. - Combat? - Yeah, look at the combat.

- So you have to pick their memories. You have to pick which memories to fight with. - Okay. - Wait, what the fuck? - This is a 3D game? - This is like a proper game. - Wait, wait, this, I did a big promotion for this. I did not know this was in this game. - They never put that in the talking points. - What?

- It's like an option. - No one has ever mentioned this when it comes to like love and deep space before. - Okay, so like, you know, obviously the memories, how much of the percentage of the game is this?

- Just that, just that 1% really. - Like 1%. - Okay, well like- - So like give me the breakdown of like what it is you do in this game. - Yeah. - Like by percentage. - Is there a story? - Yes, there's a story. - Do you just play for the story? - No. - Well at least you're honest. - Okay, no, I don't, I literally just leave it on auto in the background. I'm like doing something else. But so essentially,

I guess a lot of it is like you have to go on dates with them to raise their affection Okay, and then like when you raise their affection you get more like memories and stuff like that you get like sometimes like special audio where they're like I just had a bit too much milk. It just really made me not breathe for a second It's very much clearly like this is meant to be sex But you're like making it seem like it's something else like there's like one with one of the guys where he's like Touching something slimy is like oh, do you like that? Do you like that? Oh? Is it on YouTube?

I want to watch this. Love and Deep Space Slime? Love and Deep Space Memories? Yeah, Love and Deep Space, like, do you like a spicy memory? I don't, there's so many, I've tried to remember the names. Okay, wait. Silas, level 60 hand. Hand interaction. Okay. Wait, you gotta put the audio up. Oh my god. What a bad boy.

- Can we pause? Can we read the comments? - Yeah, open up the comments of this. - He's really testing my sanity. - God forgive me for what I'm about to do this Matt.

- Listen, I'm just saying men have had this for like ages. You've had all this. We get one thing and all of a sudden now it's Gooner Awards. - No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

- I think it's for me, I don't like go through the whole girlfriend experience. I'm just straight to the meat. Like I'm just getting it done. - Me too. Like usually me too. - But so what does this do for this? Like what does this do? - Okay listen, I don't really, okay. I will say seeing other people do it's like,

But when it's me and he's just like, "Oh, I love the touch of your fingers on my face." I'm like, "Okay, well, I'm just looking at my phone." - Is it more like the prelude? It's like, you're like, "Oh, okay. I'm kind of like, yeah, this is hot. All right, now I'm gonna go actually do something else." - Yeah, kind of, yes. - Okay, okay, okay. - It's like, the longest I played in one sitting was like four hours. - That's a long fucking time. - You say that like that's like not a long time. - Like every Monday when they refresh.

- Four hours? - Because then you can go like, you play like a kiddie card game and then you take like the car machine, claw machine. And then it's just like everything refreshes. So anyway. - I remember the claw machine. That's why I had to promote it. I actually did it on a claw machine video. - It is kind of addicting. - Oh, that's why they promote it too. - I had to do a skit in the claw game place and it was. - Yeah, right. - It is very addicting, the claw machine aspect. It actually is really. - Trust me, I know. - Yeah. So I want to know how,

- How spicy does this get? Because, okay, let me set the scene. I'm lying in bed. We're just chilling just before I think we're about to go to bed. I hear some sus fucking sounds come from Sydney's second phone. I look over. - That was when he was eating too.

- I'm like, "Oh my God, it isn't." - I look over and I see some fucking dude dressed up in this BDSM, BDSM ass fucking outfit. And he's like, "Touch my nipple." "You have to free me right now." And I'm like, "Honey." - And then when you actually flick his nipple, he's like, "Oh, oh."

- It's not my proudest goon, but. - It's the newest banner. That's the spiciest one. - Do you remember what that banner's called? - He just looks up nipple flick. - Is that it then? - Night of Serenity? - No. - Oh, we can't air this, dude. - Oh my God. - It's shot like fucking Peep Show. - Don't look.

- What is this? - Oh my God. - What is he eating there? Oh, huh? Is this the girl? - Yeah, that's supposed to be us. - Oh, oh. - Oh my God, dude.

Wow, they already get into it. Oh my god. You don't even know the beginning of it. I got one from the five star banner of one of the characters and there was like an off switch to make them not so horny and he put it like on his pee pee and you'd like use your knee to touch his pee pee. And then he's like jacking him off with your knee. I'm like, China. China. Skirting the lines here. What the fuck? Are you like fully jacking this dude? Yeah, you're jacking him off. And then he like knocks you off. Jesus.

- This is so fucking funny. - It's spicy. - This is just too much power. - And anyway, that's love in deep space for you. - I guess the way that guys, they protect themselves and feel like they're like, "I'm not a gooner." Once they jack off something, they're like, "I don't know the name of that shit that I just punched."

any of the people in there. I close that tab and I'm done and I'm forgetting about it. And I'm a normal human in society. - Where the ladies are like, I'm fucking committed to the story. - I didn't know his name. I didn't know his nipple circumference. - 'Cause my impression from just seeing these scenes and just seeing some of the stuff like secondhand,

Like this, and you probably have like the best experience with this war with like, let's say Guna material for guys and for girls, right? I feel like this is so much like, so much more intense than what you can get in like most, pretty much every gacha game I know of that is, you know,

For like the male legit like I've seen a lot of men just say like oh even for like the guys usually It's just more of like random anime girls with massive tits. Yeah But with this one it's like all about building the relationship with the guys Which is actually where they catch you and it's kind of like I don't really care about that I really because maybe I'm just in a happy marriage

- Don't put that in there. - I just wanna flick a nip. - Sometimes I'm just craving a good little nip to flick. - God forbid. - But yeah, it's just kinda like I like it from the spice. - That's crazy. - And even Emily's just like, it's just like some of the guys are like, yandere men, okay, keep it coming, yum, yum, yum, yum, yum. But other than that, yeah, a lot of the other aspects are a bit addictive as well, just like the cat game and claw machine, but it is a good game.

'Cause this guy in the game, he stalks you, and that's kind of his charm. And anytime you call him, like,

"Oh, Silas." He'd be like, "I'm here, kitten." - Wait, so why, okay, I actually, I don't understand this. Why do some people have being stalked as a fetish? Where does that come from? - Because they're so obsessed with you, they don't want to go their day not following you. - Oh, it's the idea that someone is that obsessed with you that you're kind of into, but not as much as they're into you? - Yeah, exactly. It's kind of like, it's a guy that was so obsessed with you that he kind of knows all your flaws, knows how bad you could be, and still loves you anyway so much to the point that it's,

- I think I don't know human beings actually. I thought I did, but I guess not. - To be fair, guys have unogasi and I'm not a unogasi fan, but- - Yeah, but I steer far away from people. - I've always heard of people having stalkers and it's bad. I've never heard of someone being like,

- Okay, no, I don't wanna be stalked in real life. - That's why they fulfill it. - I've never heard someone go like, "God, I got this fucking heart stalker right now." - I think it's more just the idea other than- - I think it's also because most stalkers in real life don't look like this. - Yeah. - I'm not gonna- If I had a stalker that was handsome and he gave me money every time he saw me, I'd be like, "Hey, wait a minute."

- That's how I got her initially. - It's like, yeah, it's like, I got five boyfriends on there already. Like he, actually, you know, one of my friends came up to me cause I had, sometimes you had to bring the phone with you when you're like, we wanted to do a special event. So I'm like, I have two phones, one of them for Love and Deep Space and my normal one. - Did you buy a phone for Love and Deep Space or it just happened that you had a special one? - I just happened to have one. - And then you were like, this is the Love and Deep Space? - Yeah. - So how does your taste in men in Love and Deep Space compare with Emily's?

- 'Cause who's Emily's favorite character? - Do you guys fight over your favorite characters? - Emily really likes one named Caleb. - Bring it up, bring it up. - We're gonna judge him. - I gotta say, sorry to everyone named Caleb. It's just not a great name. - It kind of isn't. - I feel like, I think if like, it's like in the same realm as like people called Chad, it's like, it's got a weird vibe to it. - It feels to me like a biblical name in a way that's like sad, like Abel, like your brother killed you.

- Wait, wait, so what's the appeal of Caleb? What's the appeal of this character? - So essentially he's a childhood friend who you thought was dead and then you get abducted. - What is his uniform? Can we see? - He works for like, he's the Colonel of like killing people, what? Killing it. - The Colonel of killing people. - That sounds like, that sounds. - Oh my God, Jesus Christ. - Dude. - Yeah.

- So Emily has some interesting taste. Who's your favorite man? Who's your favorite man? - It's hard because they're kind of all yandere's. - Is that the appeal of Love in Deep Space? - They're all equal. - Garnt, if I had to ask, what do you think my favorite type of guy in a game is? What have I said many times? What is it? - It's the yandere man. - No, but besides that, it's the one who puts out the fastest. And honestly, they all put out equally, so it's hard to pick. - You're gonna have to reiterate on that.

- So the hierarchy is puts out the fastest yandere men. - Yeah. - Why do they need to put out fast? - Because I don't have the patience to find out who's gonna put out whatever. - I will say she went through, she was obsessed with Baldur's Gate 3 for like,

- The longest time. And she's like, I despise this one guy. I think he's boring as fuck. - He tries to be funny and it's like, okay, that's kind of crazy. - Who does she end up with? Who does she end up romancing in that game? Gale. - Gale? Because he put out the quickest.

- You want the whore of the group. - Yeah, 100%, I love sluts. - Okay, to put it in perspective, when she played Persona 5, she just romanced Anne immediately. - I mean, likewise. - It was easy. - Did you actually? No, no! - First time around I did. - You gotta wait, see what all the options are first. - I was just like, I just wanna romance now. - She's the first female character you get. - Give it to me! - Give it to me now! - Complain about modeling and show me.

Show me your tits and give me a now But yeah, and that's just the appeal for me. It's just slutty fair enough fair enough There's actually actually a lot of debate right now They're like oh the guys have to be virgins though and all in this game And it's like there's no fucking way these guys are fucking virgins if they were real who says that like there's been a lot of debate on love and deep space Twitter and

- You think a guy's this confident at what he is doing? This is like his 19th time. This is his craft. - So girls and guys aren't too different, are they? - They better be virgins. - They gotta be virgins. - Check his hymen? - Look inside his penis, see if the hymen's in there.

- Wouldn't this be disappointing? He nut in like 0.1 seconds. I guess some people like that. - Especially after all of that kitten talk and he's just like, the moment it goes, he's just, "Oh." He's like, "Actually, sorry kitten. I was pretending I was just a virgin just in time. Sorry kitten, you were too good." - Why is that actually, I'd be like, "Oh my God." - Oh my gosh. Christ. - So this is why you don't upload that much anymore, huh?

It's a mix of things. It's an accumulation of things. This is a big, big one.

- Yeah, maybe. - This is a big one. - I do like my games. - You've been playing a lot of, or someone I know has been playing a lot of games, a lot of horror games. - That's just me. - That's just you? - In general. - Okay, I gotta know, how do you not get bored of just horror? 'Cause you watch, how many horror movies do you watch? Or how many times do you watch horror within a week?

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You know the answer, you son of a bitch. - I want it for the camera. - I like to, okay, at least, I don't know, a few times a week. - A few times a week she needs to watch a horror movie. - That could be anywhere between two and 20. - I watched two films, I'd love to hear your opinion on them. No doubt you've watched them. They were M. Night Shyamalan films I watched on the plane. I watched one called Nightcrawler, Nightwalker. What is it? Can you tell me M. Night Shyamalan? And the other one was Trap.

- But the guy that's a serial killer, and they're trying to get him in the stadium. - No, that was stupid as shit. - Yeah, I didn't like that one. - No, 'cause then he got his, he kinda made it for his daughter, because the singer was his daughter. - Oh, really? - Dude, I felt bad. I was watching that movie, and I was like, the moment she started acting, the film went like, it was so bad. - Yeah, I didn't understand it, 'cause then she was just like, "I'm just gonna protect this serial killer. "Okay, world famous pop star, "let me just help this serial killer who came to your country." - So what's this film about? - You say it.

To be fair, the first 20 minutes, I felt like they were really good. They're in a stadium and his daughter is seeing a pop star that she really likes, akin to Taylor Swift of this universe. And then like,

He's like, I gotta get my daughter a t-shirt and it all sold out. And then he overhears from one of the staff who signed the t-shirts. He's like, hey, yeah, this whole concert was just a, we put this whole concert on for a trap to catch the serial killer. And he's like, what? What serial killer? And you slowly start to think like, oh,

Is it him? And then they immediately lose all sensitivity because he goes into the toilet and opens up his phone where he has a camera pointing at his basement with a guy trapped in it. And I was like, this could have been so much better if you like, 'cause he could have like slow burned it to make you realize he was the killer. - Yeah, let us guess. - Yeah, but yeah. And then basically it's about him. The first hour and a half is him avoiding everyone in the stadium doing heinous shit. And then eventually the pop star gets involved, the one on stage and they go to his house

And he's like, oh, don't you tell them I'm the serial killer. Okay, random world famous pop star. Yeah, who's in their house. Yeah, just casually. Security didn't go in. No one went in. And then it... Shit. They never explained why she helped him either. She's like...

I'm trying to get away from the cops and also I'm a world famous serial killer. She's like, okay, bet, let's go to your house. - And he escaped like four times. - Oh my God. - He just keeps escaping. - It was shit. - So what was the test in this one? - That he was the serial killer. - Okay, okay. - And to be fair, he was the best part of that film. He was a pretty good actor, but my God, I didn't realize it was his daughter, Jesus. Can you tell me M. Night Shyamalan films? He makes so many. - I don't know why he-- - I was gonna say, did you think about Nightwalker with that guy, Donnie Darko guy?

- Jake Gyllenhaal? - Jake Gyllenhaal? We haven't seen that one. I haven't seen that one. - Hold on, scroll down. - Nightwalker is the one where Jake Gyllenhaal is the- - That's the recent one. It's gonna surround a recent film scene. - Jake Gyllenhaal is the- - Trap? - Not Trap. It's The Watchers. I watched The Watchers. - The Watchers. - Can I see the synonym? Oh wait, is that Dakota Fanning? What the fuck?

- Did you watch this? - No. - Sucks. - Dammit. - You're gonna watch it anyway, right? - No amount of Dakota fanning will help. - Did you like Abigail? - Yeah, I did. - I didn't watch Abigail. - Well, that was kind of a let down for you. - I just saw it. This is the first time it ever happened. I was sponsored by the movie Abigail. - What? - What, really?

- I really like it. - To promote it. - Oh really? - Yeah. - I really like it. - And you didn't watch it? - Yeah. - No, 'cause it was like in America only. - Oh, I see. - Oh, okay. - And I was promoting like to buy tickets. - No, it's always funny 'cause you watch like almost every horror movie that comes out and Connor watches basically every film that comes out in cinemas in Japan at least. And sometimes Connor will just talk about this random film he saw on a podcast and he's like, yeah, this sucked.

And then I will hear from you that you're like, "Oh, I really like that horror film." - What the fuck? - I remember, what was that one film where it was like this,

it was a horror film and the streamer was being replaced by like AI. - Fuck you. - He's talking about Cam. - Cam. - We had a lot of discussions about it. - I thought Cam was bad. - I think it's a good analogy. Okay, you know what? I'm not gonna go into it because you're not gonna, it's a good analogy. - It's bad. - Sometimes Cam girls could be like, it feels like. - No, it was not streamers, it was Cam girls. - Okay, Cam girls, sorry. - Can you type it in, Cam? - Cam. - Cam, Cam. - Okay, also like, I will recognize that like,

- I cannot, like, obviously, like, I feel like I'm a empathetic person, but it's really hard to put myself in the shoes of a cam girl. - I think like, yeah. - Fair enough. - Yeah. - Like, I just like, and like, it wasn't terrible, but it wasn't good. - I will say it doesn't like remain memorable, but it's like, it's a little thinker. It's a good like expression of cam girlism. - You think so? - I think so.

- No. - Yes. - Okay, I need to know then your opinion, 'cause I recently watched it and I absolutely fucking despised it. What do you think of "Long Legs"?

- Nobody likes long legs. - No, no, but here's the thing. IMDB is like the most ADHD shit I've ever seen. - I know, that's why, honestly, I stopped believing in IMDB because of that. - Watch 6.5, Rotten Tomatoes, 88%. - Yeah, 88%. - This is a movie where it's either you think it's the worst piece of like fiction has ever been written, which I agree with, it's terrible. Or people are like, this is the modern day Silence of the Lambs. - So what is this? - You haven't seen it? - No, I haven't seen it. You watched this in America, remember?

- That's right, I watch it with my brother. Okay, so essentially it's about this girl. The beginning was so good too. It actually was.

- This girl, this lady. - In pursuit of a serial killer, an FBI agent uncovers a series of occult clues that she must solve. - Yeah, she has like psychic powers or some shit, right? - Yeah, and then they put the psychic power bullshit. She was literally like a cop and then she was unveiling the mysteries behind the long legs, who's like a random, we don't know if he's real or if he's fake, serial killer that's just killing a bunch of people. And then we find out she has psychic powers and that's how she's able to track him. And it's like, what the fuck?

And it's like, let me find out. Spoiler alert. He gave her those psychic powers. And then it's like, to be fair, the best part of the movie was not, what's his name? Nicolas Cage. Nicolas Cage. He's really freaky. Like when he's like in the end and he's like singing a song or something like that as like the announcer. Oh, Nicolas Cage.

- You know the problem is sometimes when you're not smart, you can't write smart characters. - Jesus. - And maybe like that's why you're like, how do we solve this crime in a smart way? I just don't fucking know. - Yeah, because the entire time I was like, okay, you're an FBI agent with psychic powers and the FBI people are just like, yeah, okay, that makes sense. - And then they just believed her. It's just kind of like, oh. - It's like, oh word, all right. - She provided no proof. And then they're just like,

well, can you solve this? And she's like, I'll try. And then she didn't. They're like, well, are we going to try again? There's so many questions in this movie. Like I thought I was losing my mind because I know so many friends who are like, yo, this movie is fucking awesome. It's a great, it's like, yeah, I think I saw on like a trailer or something or maybe like a tagline or whatever. People were legitimately calling it the modern day Silence of the Lambs. And that, which was so fucking disrespectful. It really,

- It's so bad. - Doing my man, Bill. - I need you guys to watch this movie to prove that. - I was very close to watching this. - Yeah. - Whenever I go to America, I'll just like, I'll just look at what's on. - To be fair, it's shot really nicely. - I mean, I thought we were gonna watch this together, but you wanted to watch with your family. - I told you. - I know, I know you did. - I told you, you screamed anyway. - I know you did. - Do you count like alien, like Romulus as a horror movie?

I mean, it is. She doesn't like it unless it's like human horror. There are so many times. Alien Romulus is really good. The thing with me and Sydney is I...

don't like horror movies. And to Sydney, her definition of what horror is is so vastly different to what my definition of horror is. - Because sometimes like thrillers aren't horror movies. Do you think they're horror movies? - Half the movies we watch, I'm like, honey, is this a horror movie? And she's like, no, it's a thriller. Someone gets fucking stabbed brutally within like the first five minutes. And I'm like, honey. - That happens in action films too. - I mean, I agree. I don't necessarily think thrillers are horror.

- Thriller is its own genre. - It can sometimes- - Thriller is its own genre. - Like Seven, the movie I would say. - No, that's a thriller. I don't count it as a horror. - Also that's in cinemas right now in Japan. - Is it actually? - No fucking way. - Let's go. - Is there any horror film you want to shout out? - On me? - Yeah.

- What's like a recent horror film that like stuck with you? - I'm asking you, I'm trying to like alley-oop because- - Mars? - Yes, I fucked with you. - I'm trying to like alley-oop on like a film- - Isn't that like the really fucked up one? - Yeah. - Martyrs? - Okay, I'm not gonna spoil it. - Can I see it? - I've heard it's like one of the most disturbing movies. - It is. - And it's a really good analogy. I'm like, okay, I don't wanna spoil it though, but it's a really good, I really like- - Okay, so what's the concept of this movie? - So such-

- But I don't want to, 'cause it's like- - Is it a spoiler? - Yeah, but I mean, you didn't, you watched us to like a synopsis of it. - The 2008 film? - Yeah. - Oh, okay. - It's French. - It's very French. - I've seen a lot of like breakdowns of this movie. - Yeah. - Yeah, so I only know about this movie because I watched the spoiler on YouTube because it's way too fucking disturbing for me. And I'm kind of glad I did considering some of the stuff that happens in this movie.

- Oh, you mean the skinning thing? - Least traumatic French day. - Doesn't a girl get like skinned alive or something? - Oh, it's a little worse than that. - Yeah, no thanks. I'm good. - Average day in France. - I love friendship between women. - It is not for the faint of heart, but it is something that you feel has a pretty deep message. - It does. Like, okay. It's kind of like,

Okay, so I guess one of the things that I like the most about this film is that you don't see from the very beginning where it's gonna go. Like it's not predictable at all. Like after 15 minutes, you're like, wait, what the fuck? It's not just torture porn like something. No, yeah, it's not. Like hostile or something like that. It's not, the only like torture, okay, well, no, maybe not the only torturous thing. But like, there's like, the big thing is like, it had a meaning to it that I'm like, after I kind of understood it, I'm like, shit, that kind of makes, not saying I'd do it,

but I'd say like, it kind of makes sense. - It wasn't just like senseless violence. - I mean, that's a good story when they are able to make you feel like, I get it. - It's hard to watch, but it's like kind of also like- - That's the thing. It's like, I get it. Like that's cool and all, but I ain't watching it. - I don't have the stomach for this shit. - Nah, I'm good. - I'm sure the emotions you felt were super funny. - I watched the YouTube reviews and I was just like,

Sounds cool. That's why I'm glad that these YouTube synopsis people are about to be like, martyrs, explain. Let me just explain the entire plot for you. Shout out Spooky Rice, the goat. He's the reason why I don't have to watch half this shit. But I will say, part of why it's so hard to watch for martyrs is because it shows how far humanity will go for answers of the afterlife.

- Okay. - So maybe you guys just aren't intellectual enough. - Did you play mouthwashing? - No, I played mouthwashing. - I was asking you, I don't know if you did. - You know I played. - I don't know if you did. - I did though. - Oh, it was pretty good. I liked it a lot. - I very much liked it. - It's basically a movie that is just a video game. It's like a two hour game where you're on this ship, but it starts off with you playing a character and you purposefully crashed the ship. - Oh, okay. - Yeah. - And then it kind of,

- It keeps going between current and previous time. - It's got really good reviews on it. - It's one of the, it was rated one of the best this year. - It's a phenomenal game. It's just a movie. It's a movie that you kind of click the dialogue and do a couple of things. - It's more along the lines of like close to like analog horror. - Yeah. - Analog horror, I guess.

- The characters are phenomenal. - But I would say that this is more of a psychological horror than a- - Psychological horror is the go. - It is the go. - It is the go to me. Like I much prefer the psychological horror over just the, you know, cheeky slasher film or, I mean, are slasher films still a thing? I guess they are. - Yeah, the one just came out called Valentine's Day something.

- Yeah. - Right. - Yeah. - Sounds amazing. - I mean, it kind of came back with like "Terrifier", right? Was that, is that a slasher film? - Yeah, it is. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - That was actually one- - Of the worst slasher films. - That was actually one you couldn't finish, right? "Terrifier", the "Terrifier". - No, I didn't like the spleen thing. Have you guys watched it? - No, we haven't watched it. - For the best. - For a second?

- Wait, no, I'm not human. I was coming soon. I was like, wait, when is this its own game? - I was gonna say, the thing that comes out in like March, doesn't it? - I wanna play that actually. - That is, it's a freaky one. - Yeah. - It's a really fun like 30 minutes experience. - Bro, when you see them outside your window and you're like, whoa, look at that fucked up guy. And then he comes closer and you're like, ooh. - Yeah, it's pretty fucked up.

- I hope the full game is good. - Oh, it will be. If the demo was, okay, you know what? I'm not gonna be cocky here. - Would you say you prefer horror games or horror movies? - Games. - Games? - It's so much more visceral with a game. - Yeah, it is. - It's more scary. - It's 'cause you're in it. - That's why I can never handle horror games. I'm like...

- But it's like, also there's not many like, okay. - You'd like this one, John. - Yeah. - Yeah, I probably would. It looks, I enjoyed mouthwashing because that was a little bit more on the psychological side. I'm kind of realizing, I think I like analog horror. Analog horror is something that's,

- Do you know what this is, Jerry? Have you seen this? - I have seen footage of this, yes. - It's in the bottom of my brain that I'm like, "Ooh, this makes me uncomfortable," but I really, really love it. - So to the audio listeners who are talking about, "No, I'm not human." - No, I'm not human. I mean, my favorite horror game of all time is probably "SOMA." - Why are we talking about that trash talk? - Yeah, and that's just something that- - Have you guys not played "SOMA"? - No.

- You guys are missing out. - He's playing on stream. - Yeah. - Is it good? - Oh, it's very, it's one of the best of the best. - How long is it? - It's long. - No, it's not that long. It's like eight hours. - What, that might take you days to play.

- He gets to play it. - Because I was- - He takes his time. - I was enjoying my time and also it was, I kept getting scared and I was like needing a break. - Okay, talk about fucking scary games. Bro, Subnautica was terrifying. - Holy shit, you played Subnautica, let's go. - That was terrifying. - I fucking love that game. - What, it's just like the creatures or what?

- It's 'cause you're just like, dude, it's like, okay, there's a fucking beacon. So you start off in this nice lovely, like under the sea kind of ass area. It's like all tropical. - Okay, little mermaid, let's go. - It's super fun to live. And then they're like, oh, we have a distress beacon 300 meters away, but it's 200 meters deep and you haven't gone 200 meters deep yet.

And so the deeper you start going, the less light there is from the surface. It just starts to get dark. It starts to get more dangerous. The things get weirder. Like it's fucking terrifying. - How weird, like sexier? - No, not sexy Sydney.

- You start off, it looks like that. And you're like, oh, that's nice. And then it gets like that, you know? - It's the idea of wandering into the unknown because I don't think this is meant to be a horror game. It's just that the sea is just fucking terrifying. And this just gives you the example, the experience of just diving through an unknown ocean. - What's that guy doing?

- Yeah. - And I think the scariest part about this is that you can't really fight the monsters. - Oh. - Right? - Some of them. - Some of them. You can unlock some things, but you can't, like some of the bigger monsters, there's no way to kill them. You can only just like distract them or fight them off a bit, but you can't actually, you are in the closest sense of the word, you are defenseless. - Right, right. - How long is the game?

- About 30 hours. - Yeah, about 30 hours. - That's a full game. - It's really good. - It's a game ass game. - What's a leviathan? I've heard people be like, "Oh, it's as scary as a leviathan in like Subnautica." And I'm like, "Is that just a fish?" - You just, you're like, you just, you see nothing and you hear noises of like this fucking beast. - Yeah. - And it like attacks you. - Yeah. - Out of nowhere. You have no idea where it's coming from. - Yeah. - I don't like this.

It's the deep scary ocean and then- - Get that shit away from me. - And then you don't know where danger is gonna come from. - It's almost scarier when you're in like the thing called the sea moth. That's fucking terrifying being in that 'cause you feel like you're in this like fucking little tube and you just hear these noises from outside. It's absolutely terrifying. So it's got images and then maybe hopefully you get like some that are like POV. Yeah, like that. - Yeah, it's just like this tiny submarine. - Look at that guy. - And the thing that's scary about this is when you go deep,

So this machine is designed to go to a certain depth. But if the machine breaks when you're thousands of meters down, you are fucked. So it's basically death. So it's just as scary as just going in

- Without any protection. - Ocean game. - Yeah, I'm good. - It's so good. - I'll pass. - No, honestly, it's one of the best games I've ever played. - That is just a small part of it because there's also like the crafting part of it, which is very fun. If you like Minecraft or whatever, this is like right up your alley. - You know me, I'm a Minecraft. - It's not as bad as Satisfactory. It's a lot more chill. Satisfactory is fucked. - Yeah. - What the fuck is that? - Oh my God. - Don't get it started. - Yeah, it's just a game where you have to build factories and optimize them.

- Why would you play that? - 'Cause it's fucking fun, Sydney. Why would you watch fucking Cam, okay? - So did you! - Yes, and it was shit and I regret it.

I put like 50 hours into that goddamn factory building game. And look what it got you. Nothing. Okay. Optimization. Sure. You have to manage like the flow of the efficiency of the machines. So you like have to mine ore, turn it into bars. And then you have to then make sure that the machines are working at 100% efficiency. And what if they're not? Like what do you do then? Well, you have to use math to figure it out. Yeah. Because like if you're producing... Yeah, because you can only ore...

You can only mine 200 ore a minute and maybe your machines, they take 30 a minute to smelt. So you need to split the 200 ores per minute into multiple ore machines. Connor, you're on negative risk right now. But then once you've made them into bars, you then have to, if you want to make something, you have to split them all. It's horrible. Do you know what a manifold is? No, Connor. Okay. It's a system in which you can use conveyor belts to maximally load a machine.

So let me show you the manifold. So a manifold is where... Bring up the five hour video to explain it all. Can we go images? All right, so a manifold... Bro, you bring up math and I'm not going to fucking pay. I'm literally like, yeah. So if the leftmost pipe can only take 20...

cubic meters of water and we're pumping in a hundred cubic meters. - This is gonna be on the test list. - Yeah, it's gonna be on the test. Each pipe can take two, so it doesn't matter. You don't have to load them all from like the same place. You can load them just from the side. 'Cause this one's gonna get full eventually. And so it'll all evenly fill. - Well, how do you know it's gonna get full eventually? - 'Cause it can only, the size of it can only fit like 20. - 20 cubic. - 20 cubic meters of water. - 20 cubic tons. - You know, so you gotta, this is really fun to play. - Sounds really fun, yeah.

- And the horror is that sometimes the machines don't run at 100% efficiency and you have to figure it out. - What do you do then? - You have to sometimes just restart. - Shit your pants. - Are we still talking about- - I was explaining manifolds to Sydney. - Oh, this is something new. What is- - Don't, don't. - The engineer came back. - It's really a bottle of engineering the manifold. - It really is. - Looks like a bunch of valves.

- Okay, so a manifold is the concept where it doesn't matter where you fill like a conveyor from, you could fill them all from one side and all the pipes will get equal amounts of- - Is this a game or is this a concept? - It's a concept in the game that you have to use all the time. - Oh, okay. - 'Cause you have to fill all the machines from a conveyor belt evenly, otherwise all the machines won't work the same. - Yeah.

If the small pipes that are being fed into can only take like 20 and you're putting in 100, eventually the small pipe at 20 will fill up and eventually they'll all fill up like cascading. Yeah. So they'll all eventually be full and taking the same amount. Don't follow along with him. Hello, it's me, Among Us. Just kidding. It's Joey because I'm here to talk to you guys about today's sponsor, FAC.

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plus free shipping on your first Factor box. That's code trash at factor75.com to get 50% off plus free shipping on your first box. Back to the episode. - You get it though, right? - I get it. - It's really cool. When you actually see it in real life, it's fucking cool.

- Honey, this is interesting. - This is interesting. - This is interesting. - This is really interesting. - Sydney. - How satisfying is it if you get it right? - Dude, it's so satisfying. - Oh my God, that sounds amazing. - Because you have one intake. 'Cause before I was planning to put like four and feed them all in at once, like a noob engineer. Like a level one mafia.

- Literally that meme of like, you know, the guy in the stadium being like, so a manifold. - Man is explaining the manifold. - The ghosts just don't get it. It's for manifold? - It's got man in it. - I don't know, Joey, is it for the manifolds?

- You know what, I might be a woman today. Where's the woman fold? Woman fold. - You mentioned math and I'm just like, I'm not doing that. I'm not listening. - You also tweeted about, you're like, when is we getting more mind hunter? - Yeah, when? - Never.

- Why? - Have you ever seen the show "Mindhunter"? - No. - It's a Netflix show. Well, to be fair, it took you quite a long time to watch. - 'Cause I knew I'd love it. - What is it? - It's basically about, unless you want to try it. - It's like where the beginning of how the FBI started to realize and like that,

'cause it wasn't until pretty recently where they realized that serial killers aren't just like born with something in their mind. So they started to be like, sometimes it's psychological. So that's like beginning to understand serial killers are like talking with real serial killers. Well, not real, like they had people that looked exactly like, they made them look exactly like them and that's how they- - It's really good. - It is really good. - Is this like a TV show? - Yeah. - Two seasons, it was very critically acclaimed, very popular. - And then Netflix is like more big mouth.

- Yeah, and then they, for some reason they didn't make any more, but it was insanely popular. It's still really good. 'Cause they basically just learn about, like it's the first time where they actually like, instead of just, you know, back in the day, if you had a guy who would just kill a bunch of people, they would just kill him. Then they're like, hey, maybe we should start like asking these guys why they do this. - Like, hey, you good?

- Yeah. - What happened to you as a kid? - So it allowed them to like profile future serial killers and stuff and learn more about them. - Yeah. So I got to ask, now that we have a girl on this podcast, I can ask this straight. What do girls find intriguing about true crime? It just- - I have a feeling you asked this the last time Cindy came on as well. - Yeah, I'm pretty sure you already asked me this. - Did I? - Yeah. - Four years ago? - I think so. - Has anything changed in four years? Well, I mean, just run it through it. - Just run it through it.

I've always had this darkness craving more death. - You wanna talk about it? - Before you explain, I asked one girl this question as well, 'cause she was really obsessed with true crime and I was like, why do you like true crime so much? She said, oh, it's really good 'cause I can prepare myself in case I ever- - Oh, I have heard that argument. - In case I ever come across a serial killer. I'm like, that sounds not true.

- There are definitely things that make me more worried. Like, "Hey, this guy's doing that." "That guy's getting a little too close for comfort, and he's not taking no as an answer." - Yeah, yeah, that's fair. That's fair, yeah. - Is that why you're into true crime though? - No. - True crime's gotten really fucking intense. - Yeah, it really, especially in the past,

four or five years. - Since this podcast starting and where it is now, true crime content has just changed so much. - And there was also something, as someone I kind of enjoyed quite a lot of it for a while until I kind of started to feel a bit

like, "Hmm, it might be weird that I like this, watching this." But it was kind of comforting in a sense that it was, it used to be like in the nineties, in the eighties, in the seventies. And then now I watch- - Now it's like two days ago. - I literally watch YouTube video and they'll be like, "In January, 2025." Like, okay, this like feels like it's still ongoing. - The creepy shit I was doing- - Best little march. - Yeah, I was doing my makeup and then I was like, oh,

- The perfect place to watch Trooper. - I'll just put on this random titled one and then as I was watching it, they're like, "It was in my hometown literally a few months ago. It was a town next to my hometown." And I'm just like,

And then some of the names they were saying, I'm like, "They're neighbors." I'm like, "Holy shit, I know those people. "What the fuck is going on?" And then it's just like, okay, now it feels like I had to turn it off 'cause I'm like, "I don't like the sound of this anymore." - Yeah, I mean, that's also part of the reason why you're into true crime, right? Is Wisconsin, would you say? - Just love murder. - The home of the serial killers, right? - Yeah. - Why do people murder so much in Wisconsin? - What else is there to do?

- Get drunk? - Well, yeah, that's what we do if we're not murdering people. - That's what they do on the weekends. - Okay, correct me if I'm wrong, but I really feel like the boom of like true crime was making a murderer, is that what it was called? - Yeah, essentially, I think so. - That was when it felt like true crime became like,

- Yeah. - 'Cause that, did you ever on Netflix when that was like the thing? - Yeah, I remember when, and people started- - Everyone was outraged that he was in prison. - It was like that, and just people started liking documentaries in general. It was just the Netflix documentary group. - That started it all, right? If I'm not mistaken, that was kind of the big catalyst for kicking off this whole, let's go to the town and let's just grab every woman or every person there and be like, just say something about the guy and we'll edit.

And I mean like, 'cause it takes place in Wisconsin and it's like- - I didn't know that. - Yeah. - I could have guessed that. - Where else? - Sometimes I get worried. I'm like, why does it matter that I haven't, like I'll be watching this thing and I'm like, oh, this guy did it. And then in my head I'm like, why do I care? - Yeah. - Why does, like, I know it's obviously 'cause it's just entertaining. Like it is just entertaining. - Unfortunately, yeah. - It is. But like in my head I'm like,

It's weird that I'm trying to determine whether I think this guy is guilty or not in my head. - And at the end of the day, you're watching a documentary which has- - So much bias. - Yeah. - So much bias. - And it will have a storyline 'cause they are selling you on a story, you know, which is the unfortunate truth of every documentary out there. - And even from our own experiences, like making videos and stuff,

so easy to present someone in a way that is favorable. And equally, it's very easy to present someone as being not so good. And so when you watch these documentaries, it's almost impossible not to have some form of bias slip in there based on what they're looking for. Because you can make a Jerry Springer-esque style thing where you go for the most inflammatory stuff and put that in. Or you can go for more of a storytelling thing. But then maybe you're like, this part of the story isn't interesting. But maybe that...

is the time when that person is talking normally or whatever. And like, we're just putting in the times they say unusual stuff and sound bites or, you know, little things. - Yeah, like I- - It's so easy to take something out of context. - There's like a lot, there's a big issue, I think, especially in the true crime. Like, first of all, you're unfortunately talking about a story about a real life person. And I think a lot of the times, a lot of true crime YouTubers kind of forget like, hey, this is a real person. - Yeah. - Especially like, I know there's this one YouTuber who was unfortunately,

put on her Patreon. - Oh yeah, I saw this one, the autopsy. - Yeah, the autopsy results and the autopsy pictures of a little boy that was murdered. - Yeah, autopsy pictures on her Patreon. Like, "Guys, if you want more pictures of dead bodies, go to my Patreon." - And the dad was fighting beforehand to make sure that these pictures were never released. - Yeah, it was obvious. Like, why the fuck would you want those released? - Yeah, that's fucked.

- And also like, I understand that there is like this obsession with like, you know, releasing everything, but like some things you're like, do we need to release these pictures? - Yeah, I don't know if I wanna see a murdered eight year old, if I'm okay. That got really dark. - Well, the problem is, some people wanted to see that and they went to the Patreon. - Yeah, that's so fucked up.

- It's concerning that there are people who are in like positions of responsibility or authority that you're like, why did you think it was a good idea to do this? Like that's crazy that there were no alarm bells in your head of like, I should have maybe not done this. - Yeah, maybe this is immoral as fuck. - Yeah. - And that's why when she came out with the video kind of like apologizing, but being like, well, but they gave it to me. Like this is the true crime community. And it's like, well,

Do you not see why it's kind of fucked up that you did that though? - It's like sourcing like 4chan or some shit. It's like you're sourcing from like the devil. This is not very helpful. Like don't just take everything. - Yeah, so, you know, I've noticed you've been listening to a lot of less like true crime videos recently. - Well, what have you noticed I've been watching then? - Okay, besides "Love in Deep Space."

- Well, we've talked about dead bodies or dead hot bodies. - There are only two sides. - In the grand scheme of things, I think I would prefer you watch hearing you flick nipples then, oh, this eight year old was stabbed brutally in his home and here's the 911 call of it. - Her legs were cut off. - I will take some gooning material over that any day of the week. - The problem is just that true crime also for me

they always talk so monotone that it's so easy to fall asleep to. - The wife woke up and then she was dead. - Half of them sound like AI. - You know what? Okay, whatever I thought, 'cause I'm like 50/50. Some days I will sleep to YouTube videos, some days I won't. And if I put on a true crime video, the always thing that fucks me up and I wake up in the middle of it is when they start showing like body cam footage and then there's like police sirens and stuff and it wakes me up. - Well, yeah, that would do that.

- Don't do that, Connor. - So I'll be, you know, I'll be like, they'll be like, it's the thing and I'll go to bed and then I'll hear like everyone fucking shouting over radios and wee-wee. - Why would you go to bed to a true crime video anyway? That doesn't make you have fucking nightmares. - No, it doesn't. - I just love to imagine you just like waking up at four in the morning.

- So I like, you know, like the volume on your phone, I set it to like, I have it in my head. It's always like set to zero and then I do one, two, three. And then it's super quiet, which is important because I need it to be quiet.

intently listening. So the moment I get sleepy, I just, I like stop listening and fall asleep. - Yeah, right, right. - And then- - Meanwhile, I can't fall asleep to anything regarding black holes. 'Cause apparently Sydney finds that more terrifying. - Well, it's literally like, just so you know, everybody, black holes, we're getting near all of them.

And I'm just like, no, we're not. Black holes, you like boy holes. Black holes in a different sense, baby. Let's go, sucks everything up. It's like, yes, this is body count footage over like some murdered eight year old. Meanwhile, here's this cool fucking physics thing and science. Why do you want to fall asleep to anything besides Always Sunny anyway? Because it's too funny. I don't know

- You know how you fall asleep to Always Sunny? - I could not fall asleep. I could not fall asleep on that thing. I would literally wake up. - I would go piss. - So I don't know if you guys have things you fall asleep to, so we take it in turns. I love science videos. Sydney loves falling asleep to Always Sunny and I fucking hate that shit.

because I will fall asleep and I'll hear like fucking Danny DeVito going, like just pop it off or something and I'll just start laughing. Meanwhile, Sydney turns on for like a minute and she's just like.

- There's nothing comforting about Danny DeVito talking about, I'm gonna marry that whore. I don't know. And I'm just like, oh Danny, I'm going to bed now. - It's too funny. - Danny have a good day, I'm gonna have a good night. - Marry that whore. - When you put on Always Sunny, number one, it takes me ages to fall asleep because I keep laughing myself before I can fall asleep. Number two, I'll wake up randomly when Charlie's like,

- You're burning trash and it turns into stars. - And then I wake up and then I start laughing again and it takes me ages to fall asleep. - It's just the best. You fall asleep happy. You're like, oh my God. - I can't, I can't. - So silly. What a silly show. - I think a comedy movie or like any comedy thing is like the last thing I would listen to. - Why? - 'Cause I have the same problem. - Couldn't be me. - I was like, it's funny. - Do you ever have to put anything on to fall asleep?

- Not really. If anything, if something is on, I can't fall asleep. - Oh really? - Yeah. Like, yeah, I'm the kind of person where it's like, I can only focus on one thing at a time. And it's like, if I need to sleep, I'm like, I need absolute fucking silence. - I didn't used to be like that. What actually changed me was the US tour. I don't know why, but I- - The white noise in the bus? - Yeah, in the white noise at the bus, I remember one of the nights,

I was watching the science video, the YouTube video. I was watching it. I don't even remember falling asleep. That's like never happened to me when I'm sober. - I think I just fall asleep better when I'm,

when I'm focusing on something. - Really? - I think that I get like really tired when I'm listening to something. And then it really helps me like not think about sleeping. 'Cause I'm trying to not focus on the fact that I'm trying to fall asleep. - 'Cause your body's just like, don't do that. - Yeah, everybody's like, what about that one thing you did in 2014 that was really cringe?

- For me, it's just like, all right, you gotta fall asleep. You don't wanna be tired tomorrow. So it just distracts you from your own thoughts and stuff like that. - That's so fucked up. Our brains is like, what if you didn't though? Like what if things get worse? - Yeah, but can I call you out? - What have you not this whole time I've been sitting here called me out? - I guess this is just me inviting you on so I can call you out. - Wow, intervention. - Sydney, you said, what have I been watching now that I've stopped watching true crime video?

Sydney would just watch anything. Second monitor, she literally, she just finished, listen to this, she just finished, finished all of Mad Men. Did you watch any of it, honey? I watched it. On the second monitor.

Not even segment. Phone. You didn't watch it. I didn't like the show very much. Mad Men is a very slow burn. I watched all of it. I know. You did not watch it. I could tell you everything that happens. You were in its presence. You weren't watching it. I was paying attention while playing Sandrock. I can fucking know. Okay. I know what happens.

every big turnabout, every moment. Nobody should like Donald Draper. He's a piece of shit, sure, okay. It's like, what is every woman in the 1950s, what's that dick in their fucking mouth? I do not know. - 'Cause he's fucking hot. Jon Hamm, he's just attractive. - Okay, listen. - He's like six foot and built like a rectangle. He's just hot. - Actually, yeah. - Can you show Mad Men, Jon Hamm? - He really is built like a triangle. - He's just amazing. He's just like the antithesis of attractive man.

- Are you talking about the main character, Don Draper? He is, yeah. - Oh, Don, my lover. - Oh. - Meow. - Yeah, I'd fuck. - Like he's objectively handsome. - Yeah, he's a good looking boy. - I'm just saying the ending to "Mad Men" just pissed me off a little bit just because it's like- - Why?

he's like goes to retreat feels like yeah i am kind of a piece of shit i'll go get therapy and then he just like thinks of the world famous commercial for pepsi or cola whatever the fuck and it's just okay that's the ending is he comes up with another commercial i guess i mean i i just felt like the entire series is that i'm just trying to make you slowly hate him

I think they were trying to make him a redeemable piece of shit. No, I think they're just trying to make you hate him. Because he sucks. John Draper, a hot mess. Thanks, Sue. Anyway. So what do you think about Netflix trying to cater more towards... Like, making series catered towards being able to watch it on the second screen? Since you are...

Since Mad Men's probably one of the best you've watched, you watched all of... Gossip Girl. No, no, no, not Gossip Girl. Sex and the City. That is meant to be second monitor content. You watch all of Sex and the City. Before second monitor content existed. Yeah, you watch all of Sex and the City. I don't know what else you've watched recently. Oh, there's a lot.

- There's just some things you shouldn't watch second monitor though. - Yeah. - It doesn't redeem it. It doesn't redeem it. - Like Better Call Saul, would you watch that second? - Okay, no, I would never do that. - Okay, good, just making sure. - I would be literally like, I really love Bob Odenkirk, bro. No, I didn't! - Honey. - No, I didn't. - Oh, no. - No, I didn't! - That doesn't align with my memory. - Sometimes, sometimes,

- Sometimes I play Stardew and I'd be like looking at the TV sometimes. - Okay. - You're not focused on it. - That's called second monitor. - To be fair, she watched Better Call Saul from what I remember, second monitor. And then it was so good that she had to watch it, rewatch it. - I restarted it. - Okay, that's fair. - She restarted it. - Because we have to admit, when you are on second monitoring set, you are not watching it the same way. - No. - It's just not the same. - You miss out on all the little details.

- What you get is a sub notes of like roughly what's happening. But you aren't actually following the story. As somebody who does this and I'm guilty of this. Like when I, a couple of weeks ago I reviewed films that I watched on the plane that I did not watch because I was playing "Play the Spire". Like I recognize that maybe some of those movies I would just enjoy differently. - You're basically reading the Wikipedia page. Like it's not actually experiencing it. You're getting all the bold points, but it's not watching. - You're not like immersing yourself in it.

- I'm not in a movie theater. - You don't have to be in a movie theater to immerse yourself in a piece of media. If you don't immerse yourself in a piece of media. - Don't do anything else, just watch. - That couldn't be me. - I get annoyed if I'm with someone and they pull out their phone. - Yeah, I'm like, okay, wait, what do you want? What are you doing? - Should we change it? - Like, are we not watching this? Are you bored?

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- Yeah. - Never, I'd be pissy. - So I'm just saying, I'm just saying maybe instead of always like having something on the second monitor, you should, you should. - You should actually watch it. - You should actually watch it. - No. - You should actually watch it. - I'm not doing that. - When I was on the plane, I went to sleep listening to YouTube and I woke up and I was three hours into the complete history of the Vietnam war. And I was like, shit, woke up speaking in Viet. - I know the ending to that.

Oh yeah, this is the thing. You thought America won the Vietnam War. I said it was a tie. It was not a tie. Don't put this in. Why? We've already put it in an episode before. I think it was on the previous one. I remember then I learned more about it. I think I was talking to Alex Lee and he's like, I'm from Vietnam. I'm like, did you know America won? No.

- What did he say? - He's like, "I don't know if that's true." And I'm like, "Look it up." - So what happened is that they got tired of fighting, the Americans, and then they left. And then the North who just took over the South.

- I don't know, man. - No, they did. - That's why it's not called Saigon anymore. - I don't know, man. - It's called Ho Chi Minh? - What I wanna know is how did this get taught you in school? - Oh, we just like, it was never, it was always very brushed over. It was very much like, it was a tie. Don't bring it up again. And I'm like, okay, slay queen.

Yeah, we're fucking bad America's never lost a war so and I'm like oh shit. Let's go Okay, damn it. You're coming W all right America get the next ob boys. I'm only why when we first met I'm like America's the best country in the whole fucking world I don't even know why you're joking that it's not that's actually like

when you're growing up in America, do they just teach you like, yeah, America is the best thing in the world? - Well, I would say that it's definitely not all of America, but coming from a small town Midwest. I remember the first time going to the Midwest and you definitely just feel that energy. And you have changed a lot since we first met, but I don't know if I've told this story before, but I remember

I can't remember, it was like the first month that we were dating. - When I moved to England? - When you went to England and she asked me, and I asked her, "Do you think America is the greatest country in the world?" And she's like- - Why would you- - Fuck yeah! - She's like, "Yeah." And she's like, "Yeah." - I don't think-

- I know. - It was a very confident answer. And I just like, I just went, and she's like, "What, what?" - You got a problem with that? - Then why did you marry, dated and married

- You're not American, you son of a bitch. - I didn't say that. I was like, there are pros and cons to every country in the world. - Was there a moment that made you think like, oh, maybe there are problems with America? - It was definitely actually, I think it was about the second or third year I stopped living in America, 'cause I haven't lived there in like 11 years now. And I think I was just like, I realized that the pressure of like,

was off of me. Because everywhere in America, no matter where you are, it's so very much like the pressure of having to pick something politically is everywhere. It's schools and banks and everything.

- It's everywhere. - It's well like the pledge of allegiance and that kind of stuff is crazy to anyone not from America. - Yeah. - Yeah. I mean, it's illegal not to. - Yeah, I know it's crazy though. - Yeah. - It's illegal? - Yeah. - That might not be right. It might not be illegal. - No, it is illegal. - Maybe it feels illegal. - No, it is illegal. - Okay, let's Google it. - Google it. - Google it. - Is the pledge of allegiance illegal to not do? Is that what you're saying? - Yeah, Google it. - I always thought it was like,

- I was told we're on a date.

that it's illegal not to. - I fucking knew it. - They lie a lot. - Sydney will just say this story about some shit that her teacher said, and I'm like, that's just a straight up lie. - Why would she lie to me? Why would they lie to me?

- I'm like, what is going on in small town fucking schools? - Is it the same teacher that told you that you guys won the Vietnam war? - Two separate ones. - It was like the same for me, but like in my school, 'cause you know, it's a school in Wales, so it's very Christian. It wasn't a Christian school. It was just a public school, but three times a day we would pray. - Right. - Yeah.

- So we'd finish our thing and then we'd be like, thank you to God for the dessert. And then before we got to go on our lunch break, we had to pray. And before we leave, we had to pray. - Really? - Yeah. - Oh, wow. - That feels illegal. That feels illegal. - No, they didn't make you do it. But like when you're a kid, they don't need to make you do it. You just need to be around everyone else who is doing it and you will feel like you have- - I don't wanna be out. - Yeah, so when I was like 16, I was like, wait,

I'm not religious. I don't believe in God. Do I have to pray? Like, I don't really want to do this anymore. And then I didn't do it. And I looked around and there's like three other kids that weren't doing it. And I was like, oh. - It's so random that your school would just be like, okay, we're gonna pray guys. We're gonna pray right now. - Oh, it's just 'cause like, I guess, Wales is a very like Christian country in general and not that they required it, but when everyone does something, you just, I imagine it's like pledge of allegiance, same kind of vibe where it's like,

everyone is just doing it, so you kind of feel like, "Oh, do it, it's not a big deal." - I wonder how the history behind Pledge of Allegiance is. It's like, fuck Britain, let's go guys, let's ride it out, let's go. - We're the goats! - We're the fucking goats, fuck you,

- Oh, fuck your team. - And this is all not to say, I don't like, you know, I think that when we have this discussion, it's like, we're trying to dunk on America and be like, it's not a great country. It's like, I just think claiming you're the greatest country on earth. - Yeah, yeah. - It's an impossible thing to do. - I don't think any country can claim that. - It's very, very hard to claim any country.

- I'm kidding, I'm kidding. - I'm sure even Norwegians would be like, you know. - I'm kidding, I'm kidding. - I wonder who was the first person to, was it after the war that it just became like, yeah, fuck you, England. Try to be better than everybody else. Anyway.

- I have this Japanese friend who they've, I spoke to you a little bit about, I don't know how it came out. We should have to be about history. And then every like few months they'll message me and they'll be like, and then they'll send me a new Wikipedia page to another thing that we called. And then when they said,

- It is pretty impressive how many things we fucked up. - It's such a small country. - It is pretty fun talking to a Japanese person, but then just like everything, like everything, you guys always started everything, huh? - You little bad boy. - It always comes back to you. - It's because like barely any of it,

like what they learn in school with like world history doesn't even fucking scratch the surface. Yeah. Yeah. And then also it's like all the major ones. World War I, World War II, Vietnam. In Japan. Yeah. Yeah. They do lie. Yeah. Yeah.

- I'm gonna pee. I'm gonna go piss girl. - Okay. - I don't think history is like a big thing in Japan. I think people care about history. Like I feel like out of like the subjects that you would like in school, I feel like history is not a popular. - Especially world history because like Japan already has so much history that they have to learn, which they obviously prioritize that like, I think like world history in high school is like a selective,

I mean, even I didn't learn too much world history. Mainly in the UK, it's like, here's World War II, you know, and here's the major kings that existed back in all our history. I did history, and I remember we did China. You did China? Like Mao's China. Oh, shit. We did 1950s civil rights America, and we did World War II. See, that's fascinating. We did not do that. We didn't do that at all. We were like, oh, let's learn about Australian history. It's like, oh, what did we do? It's like, well, we...

killed the natives and fucking started weird politics. It's like sick. Awesome. 250 years. A British person's like, first time? We learned from the best. Sorry. I know we're laughing at this, but it is pretty, it's a pretty like being British and having to read your history is pretty sobering. You're like, wow. Yeah. We did it again. I, in my history class, I didn't learn all of like the fucking fucked up things. Oh no, we never learned the fucked up things. Cause why would you, why?

- Yeah, yeah, yeah. - There's no pressure to- - For us it was like, so we had beef against the French. They came here, we fought them off. We invaded them, they invaded us. And then World War II. And aside from that, it was like Roman and Greek history as well. We learned quite a lot of. So I barely learned anything about like American, like what happened with America, you know?

China as well. The most you'll learn is maybe like the Civil War, but like other than that, it's like... We learned about like civil rights. Oh, really? Yeah. So that was, yeah. That we learned like, oh my God, they did this? What the fuck? Man, we talk about so many things.

It feels like, how do you guys do it every day? - Fuck, I don't know. It's crazy 'cause I'll stream for 15 hours and it won't feel as tiring as doing Trash Taste. I don't know why. - 'Cause you gotta think of topics all the time. - Yeah, I think it's like we're actively constantly trying to bounce off each other. - Yeah. - Well, you're not talking for two hours straight on stream. - No, I'm also playing games as well, which is so much easier. - And it's like, you look at stuff and it's just like- - Yeah, I can take a break. But I feel like Trash Taste is like, we're locked in for two hours and it's really tiring.

- What is this? - Are we talking about, anyway. - Yeah, I mean, stream is just like pretty chill, I feel, compared to like two hours of intense conversation. - How do you like streaming? How is it? - I like it. - Imagine making YouTube videos. - Okay, the difference between, bless you, in making YouTube videos is sometimes it's like,

I'll put like my whole entire heart into it. Like sometimes I'll literally, it'll be about a topic I love. I put a lot of effort into it and sometimes it like flops and then it just makes me depressed and

And then I'm just like, okay. And then it makes you go with that typical YouTuber existential crisis of what's it all for? I'm putting my heart in my sleeve and then for what? - We've all been there. - Yeah. And it's just like, yeah, it's not always about the views of course, but if it's your job, you have to care a little bit about it. - It's a responsible not to when it's your livelihood. - People are like, who cares? Just do it 'cause you love it. It's like, well, also I'm trying to live. - I got to pay taxes. - Also, if you presumably have staff, you're paying for people's, you can't just be blah, blah, blah.

You do have to care. Everyone thinks it's so cool not to care about that stuff. You just have to care. You have to. If you're able to be in a position where you make enough money or you have made enough money that you don't care, okay, cool, good for you, but most people aren't like that. Yeah, for sure. And then it's why it's like, so I started doing streaming to kind of just like

I don't know, fill the gap of being like, "I don't know if I wanna keep doing this, I'm feeling evil." And then I realized, okay, I kinda like it. So then I started playing horror games, 'cause I don't really like playing horror games alone because it's scary. So I do it on stream because it just felt fun with everybody else, especially. Sometimes it's scary, 'cause sometimes when you're in the middle of a game and you're doing something, you feel like you say things and you're like, wow.

I hope nobody heard that, but then you're on stream, so a lot of people heard that. - So everybody knows.

- And they'll clip it. - I think that's when streaming got really fun for me when I truly felt comfortable just being on the camera the whole time. And it takes a while to get comfortable with that 'cause it's such an unnatural thing to feel like you're being watched, but then to get comfortable with like, almost like, yeah, I guess it just sounds crazy when I'm saying that, just get comfortable being watched while doing something. - Girl, watching you piss, girl. - Or Love in Deep Space, watching them, I guess, like strangle you. - Touchline.

Literally, that's just my everyday practice. I will say, there are certain games I enjoy playing on stream and certain games I still enjoy. I don't think, I think you have to like,

It's almost like a type of game that works well for streaming. - I can tell you what games don't work well for stream, satisfactory. - Nobody brought, it was close to bringing that up again. You brought it up on your own. - Worst view count I had for months. - I mean, there are some things where I'm like, I'm glad that I don't have to be like,

or entertaining towards this certain thing. Like I've been playing metaphor a lot recently and I don't think I would just enjoy it as much if I- - That's the reason why I don't stream games 'cause all the games I love are the worst games to play on stream. - RPGs are really hard to stream. - They're so hard. - Yeah. - It's just why the only way I will stream them is if I do a marathon 'cause it's almost more about the marathon. - Yeah, 100%. - Yeah. - Because like when you play an RPG, the problem is is that if you wanna play in a reasonable amount, like a reasonable sitting,

let's say even then like six hours a day is a lot to play a game but for an rpg you've you've done nothing so you're we're talking like what like maybe a small rpg is what six settings of six hours every single time you stream that game afterwards not everyone is going to be available at the same time a lot of people are going to come in on day three see what you're playing not know the game yeah be confused and leave so it's just it's like it's a terrible to stream yeah unless

you go through it like a marathon, 'cause then people are almost watching to watch like, oh my God, what's this energy like 20 hours in or like, you know, there's a different aspect to it. And people who know the game can also enjoy it. - Yeah. - Like fear and grung-grung. - Fear and hum-grung? - Yeah. - Well that's, yeah, yeah, yeah. - Fear and grung-grung bitch. - It just looks like torture. - How long did you stream it for? You did it in one- - 21 hours. - In one go? - I slept for five. - I told her it would take 12.

- Well, that's because you had help, I found out. - No. - Chat said that you had somebody helping you throughout the whole thing. - That was when I did the ascending runs.

- How did you do in 12? What ending did you get for 12 hours? - Like the normal ending where you become God? - Oh yeah, that was me after 19. - I got an eight, but I gave you 12 'cause I thought it would take you longer. - Yeah, well, just a little bit more than you thought. - And then I watched the stream, right? Okay, and so "Fear and Hunger" I've talked about it a million times. There is no reward for fighting anyone.

Literally no reward. They don't drop items. Survival. They don't drop items. They do not drop XP. You can easily walk past everything. The game actively punishes you for filing everyone. Sure enough, I tuned to Sydney stream 12 hours in. I miss filing.

- Every single enemy Sydney is running into and fighting. And she's like, why am I dying? Not figured out that you are getting no reward for fighting these guys. - I forgot you could talk to them. - Don't talk to them. - Just don't interact. - Well, but sometimes they see you and they come at you. Well, not, okay, you can't do everything. - If they come at you, I don't talk to people who come at me. I run the fuck away. - But escape is not easy. - Oh my God. - And to be fair,

like some of the bosses, I mean, yeah. Okay. Like you could have used the scrolls for it or whatever, but it's also like, that's too easy. Yeah. I remember she, she comes to me and she's like, I just got five missed calls from Connor. What? Like five on discord. And then there was three on messenger. She was,

You were absolutely fucking struggling and I couldn't watch anymore. And I was calling you up and I was gonna like walk you through. He was one of the boss where like, you have to fight this brain, but the brain, if you talk to it, which isn't rare that it works in this game, it has a talk button.

And almost like an undertale, it's like, oh my God, if I talk to them, I guess everyone can talk to. And this game like you dumb fuck, why did you try and talk to the guy with the sword? Why the fuck did you try and talk to him? And then he chops you down. And then there's like three enemies out of all of them where you can actually talk to and get a positive outcome. And one of them is this boss where it will give you like a quiz. And then if you get the answer right, like four times in a row, it just fucking dies.

I was trying to call Sidney and be like, stop fighting this brain. It is a sponge.

- Meanwhile, it's like tearing off all her limbs, killing her. And then she's like, "All right, run it back." And I'm like, "No." - To be fair, I only died 35 times. Honestly, that's actually pretty good. I heard. - I mean, you did better than me. You actually beat the game. - Yeah, you got further than either of us have. - I play for an hour and I'm like, "I'm never fucking touching this game again." - I'll never forget the guy who did the run through where he's like famous for knowing fear and hunger. He helped me in the chat. And he's like, "You're quite special, aren't you?"

I'm like, what the fuck? Don't put that in. When he said that, I'm like, what? What do you mean? And he just left. He just left. I'm going to start doing that in people's chats. You're quite special, aren't you? You're special, aren't you? What is it? I couldn't get the quiz. I didn't like the one where you had to keep going back in time and then you had to put them in certain order. Which one? The one where you had to go back to like,

you'd like press the thing that go in the sky and then you'd be back in time and you'd do like that puzzle. We had to put like the statues in a certain order. - I'll be honest, I've put like 50 hours into that game. I've never learned how to do that puzzle legit. I've just always looked at the, you have to like press these statues and they do JoJo poses. And you just have to like put them like five statues in the right poses. I do not know how to solve this. - Is it literally just trial and error maybe? - No, no, no. - It probably isn't trial and error. - If you fuck up once though, you have to restart the game. And it's like,

- That one, yeah. - Oh, oh, that, oh. - This puzzle is bogus. - Why were you doing that one? That's how you meet Jesus. Why were you doing that one? - Out of context, this sounds so fucking wild. - I didn't know that I would. - What if I wanna meet Jesus? - There's a god in this world called Olmeir who is basically standing for Jesus and his corpse is in the bottom of the dungeon.

And if you solve that puzzle, it's absolutely not necessary for the game. - I didn't know that until they're like, you have to do it. And I'm like, okay, shit. And it took me two hours and I did it. - This is how people feel when people talk about Jojo. It's just like, what? - You meet Jesus and he is the good ending. - There's no items either, by the way, if you do this. Sorry. - There is items. - No, there's not. - Loads of items. - With Jesus?

- What do you mean with Jesus? - When you do that, I mean, there's items when you solve this puzzle. - What do you mean Jesus doesn't give you items? - What do you get? - Nothing. You see Jesus in the bottom. - Well, actually, if you talk to the, there's like a stand character for basically guts. It's kind of like implied that he's, 'cause he's like,

Like a treasure hunter kind of guy. And he gives you a map. Is that the guy who got the prostitute pregnant? No, that's the mercenary. Sorry. So there is one purpose to this dungeon. And it is that if you talk to this one guy and you either kill him or pay him for maps, he'll tell you there's a treasure. You can go here. And then when you get the treasure, you get two spells. One of them is to walk on water. The other one is to turn water into wine. Bitch!

- I really want someone to take this conversation out of context and just not say it's about a game. - And it's actually very value. And you can turn one bread into three bread. - Fuck. - Oh shit. - Give me that power. - The hunger mechanic and the fear mechanic you can negate by becoming Jesus basically in the game, which is very OP. And it basically makes the game super easy from that point. - Who would have thought being Jesus was okay? - Well, I didn't get the maps. - Well, look, Sydney,

- You're special, okay? - Fuck you. - I don't know what to tell you. - I was like, I literally had to pause the game like, this motherfucker just called me special and left, bro.

- But it's a great game though. - It is. Well, that's okay. - No, that's okay. - It's all right. - I mean, it's all right. - I mean, it's okay. - I wanna write home about it. - What else has changed in four years? Any other big life changes since you've been on last time? - Got married, what? - Oh yeah, that was fun. - That was all right. - That was fine. - That was fine. - That was fine. It's been what, two years now? - It's almost three. - That's crazy. - Almost three actually, but okay. - Almost three years since that happened. - What about you guys, huh? What's new with you, huh?

- Same shit. - Playing video games. - Just chilling. - I mean, since the last time I did it, I don't even think you were streaming at that point, Connor. - No, Connor became a streamer like two years in. - And Joe didn't start his shirt brand yet. - I only exclusively sold shirts. - I think that was probably around the time I would have maybe been close to getting into it, I think.

- Yeah, I think so. - 'Cause I remember a lot of like early Trash Taste clips, we talk about, yo, this streaming thing is weird. Like IRL streaming, how do people do it? I don't get it. - This is like, I think I got into streaming as the streaming boom kind of started as well. Like really kind of blew up. I'm kind of the reason why. - Do you think you've changed a lot in four years since you moved to Japan? - Not really, I guess.

I don't really know. I mean, almost 30 now. - Congrats. - Dirty 30 fucking. - Congrats, congrats. Cheers to that. - I've become more cynical, I think. - I mean, that's just normal. - Yeah. - That's just 'cause you've been with God. - What the fuck? - You know how to appreciate, oh my God. When she first moved to England, because small town, American girl, whatever.

she was just like one day she was just like really missing some food. And I was like, honey, what'd you want? She's like, I just want an IHOP so bad. - I would kill. - And I'm like, now looking back, I'm like IHOP really out of everything? - My taste has been more refined. - Out of everything you wish for IHOP? - Now I want Yuba. - What? - I love Yuba. - The fuck is Yuba? - Tofu skin.

- What? - I mean, Yuba fucking slaps. - Wait, can you do a Yuba? What the fuck is that? I've never heard of that. - Yuba is literally, when they cook, when they make tofu, it's the skin that rises to the top. So they take all of that. - Oh, it's this. - And it's basically tofu skin. - Yeah. - It's really fucking good. - I like the fried tofu. What's that called again?

- Yeah, I love that shit. - I guess it also is really good too. But Yuba is really fucking good. - Yeah, I fucking agree. - This is the pinnacle of tofu. - This is fucking great. The little like crispy skin on the outside. - Yuba with some like wasabi show you. - That's good. The Yakitori place I really like, he does Yakitori tofu, like that tofu where he grills it and then he puts dashi and putting two flakes on it. - I want that. - Crunch, phenomenal. - Hell yeah.

What place are you talking about? I'm taking you there. Where is it?

- Is this part gonna be in the show? - Yes. - We're alive on television right now. - He's my guy, bro. - I wanna see him. - He's my guy. - Show me where he is. - All right, I'll show you. - I need to know. - What was the moment where you were like, you know what? I can eat more than just American food 'cause I feel like- - When you went to the UK, were you- - No, I hated, oh my God, words cannot express how much I hated England. - She had the most awful time.

I hated England with a fucking passion. Like I literally like, cause I left my town. - English food, right? - No. I left my town, I don't know, cause it was the first time I ever really left my town. - That's crazy. - And I never knew what to expect because you know, it's all I've ever known. And then I went to a whole different country and I'm like, why isn't it like America though? What's going on there? - Ain't no way there are places that are not America. - I just see as like the rest of the Western world, what the fuck is,

- But then it's like, first of all, it's gray as shit. London people were mean. I was surprised that people were like, "Oh, British people are so polite." Not in London, they're fucking mean. - First of all, I don't know who told you that, but that's a lie. - London people are not nice. I will agree with that. - They'll like fucking kill you if you don't have your Oyster card out within 0.1 seconds of tapping the machine.

stand on the wrong side of the escalator. - They're like, "Get out of the way you cunt." - And they will commit manslaughter. And the horrible thing is when I lived in London, I noticed myself turning into one of those people.

Like you get off the tube and there'll be someone just standing in the middle of like the platform. - 15 suitcases, you're like, "Fuck it, fuck it, fuck it." And I was like, "I don't like the person I'm turning into." - Yeah, but either way, when I was like just left and I was like, I'm getting used to, 'cause I went to university there and then I'm like, "Oh shit, I don't even like university here." 'Cause I went to a really weird university called Birkbeck. It's in the center of London. - Birkbeck?

- The fuck, where'd you find this, Timu? - It's a university that accepted basically anyone. And that's how I got in. - Should we type in Birkbeck University? - It's like Birk, like B-I-R-K-B-E-C-K. - I mean, if you type it in wrong, I'm sure-- - Oh, Birkbeck. - Yeah, London. - Birkbeck University of London. - University of England. - Fuck, I've never heard of this. - And it's a night school, I didn't know that. - What the fuck? - Until I went to the school, I didn't know it was a night school. - Is Birkbeck a reputable university?

- World leading and internationally excellent. - Well, let me hear. - Every year. - Not to be whatever, I mean, just never heard of it. - Yeah, I mean, it was very, it's unusual because it's like in the center and it's kind of like one or two big buildings and it was a night school really mostly. And I did not know that until I went. - What course did you do? - Guess.

American history I did Japanese Let's go To be fair that's how I read and got the Kanan Hiragana and then the rest I was just like I passed my N6 I'm basically Japanese now Let go But I just couldn't get used to like living in England and so I hated it Right And then I dropped out after a year But um

And then I just, Garnt was like, "Oh, I want to start doing YouTube." And so we're like, "Oh, I guess let's just move to Thailand." And then from then on, life began. - Hell yeah. - Did you like Thailand more than the UK? - I did. - White bastards. - No, I do. I mean, I like England a lot now that I grew up and sort of like, "Hey, things are just different." And I like most countries for different reasons besides France.

And that's not just because they're French. Not anymore. To be fair, it's not all of France. It's literally just Paris. Yeah, just Paris.

- The rest of France is quite nice. - Yeah. Well, you've not been to the rest of France. - No, I can't, I can't judge. - Nice is fucking beautiful. - Yeah. It's the one time I'll defend France when I'm like, okay, Paris, we can clown on. - Outside of Paris, they don't claim the Parisians. Same with London as well. - Yeah, yeah. I mean, it's like someone judging England from London, which is- - I mean, I would even say London is a million times better than Paris. - I mean, I agree with that. I mean, yeah. - Yeah? - It's just like the, like they're,

A lot of Londoners aren't exactly all that polite, but in France they're literally like, it feels like they're just trying to attack you all the time. Like be like, fuck you, bitch. I'm like, damn. It's probably because you don't speak French. Well, yeah. But even if I did, they'd be like, why are you fat? I'm like, I don't know. Are you projecting here? No, I'm talking because like a lot of French people are like, well, if you smoke cigarettes, you'll be thin. Okay, who's told you that?

- I don't believe you. - A lot of wine and cigarettes will do the trick. - There's like 15 other reasons why they would tell you to smoke cigarettes. That would be number 16. - Reason number one, you live in Paris. - You're in France, smoke. - No, I 100% agree.

- I'm not a huge fan of London either, but my God, it's so much better than Paris. Paris is just fun. Which is why I wanna actually go to the rest of France. 'Cause I've only ever experienced Paris. I'm like, I've heard good things about not Paris. - Go to a Chateau. - Yeah, just anywhere that's not fucking Paris. - Don't feel like you get stabbed walking around. - I almost got pickpocketed twice in Paris. - When you were in England, would you say that London was your least favorite place?

or in comparison? - Yeah, I mean, I haven't been to a lot of places in England to be fair, but yeah. I mean like when Chris took me to like the countryside of England, I was like, oh, this is actually like kind of nice. And London was just, I don't know. London just seems too much like Australia in a lot of aspects. So I'm just like, it's nothing new to me. - That's why when I went to Sydney, I thought, damn, this is just like London 2.0. - Yeah, it's like London but way better. - I was just like, yeah, okay, I'll give you that.

It is nicer. It is nicer. People are happier, which is the biggest thing. But it was like when I saw like the pubs, I was like, oh, this is like London. It was when I saw the fucking chicken chops. I was like, you sons of bitches. Yo, what the fuck? You got the chicken chops here? Boss man went all the way to Australia as well. Ain't no way. Ain't no way. So I think maybe that's why I'm not a huge fan of London personally. But the rest of England, I quite enjoy. Yeah.

- Yeah, it's nice. - Like where did he take you in the countryside? - He took me to like around like Bath and like around there. Yeah. We didn't go to Bath, but it was kind of around that like, what is it, Salisbury? - Oh, Salisbury. - Oh, Salisbury. - Oh, did you see Stonehenge? - I did see Stonehenge. - From a distance? - She was whack.

- It's like, looking at Stonehenge on the highway and being like, oh look there's Stonehenge is the exact same experience as actually going up to it. - Yeah. - 'Cause it was also after like, you know, the whole thing of like where they like, there was like the vandalism incident that happened on Stonehenge and they had to like cut off, like you can actually go into Stonehenge. So it's like, you got there after walking

God knows how fucking long to get to it. And then you're like, oh cool. The closest I can get is like 80 meters away. It's like sick. There it is over in the distance. - And it's just like, well, it's just a pile of rocks. - Yeah, it's just some rocks. Sick, let's go. I mean, I can see how it went, but yeah. - You can see it in Japan as well. - You can see it in Japan if you go to Hokkaido. - They have like a one-to-one place, right? - Yeah, yeah. - I mean, we went there for the,

- You can see Stonehenge and the fucking Easter Island heads at the same time. - Stonehenge cemetery in Sapporo. - Yeah, hell yeah. - It's really weird. - It's a cemetery? - And they have Maui heads.

- Easter Island heads, a giant Buddha, Stonehenge. - The Stonehenge is pretty fucking close to looking nearly exactly. - From a distance it looks exactly the same. - Is Stonehenge not the one with the faces? Is that not it? - No, that's the Easter Island egg. - Oh, I thought Stonehenge was the face one. - No, the Stonehenge is- - Is that a circle of stones? Who gives a shit? - Have you not been to Stonehenge? - I looked at it from a distance. I thought it was faces. - No, it's just a pile of rocks.

- Oh, bullshit. - Yeah, yeah. - It's literally just a pile of rocks. - And it looks, this looks way too clean. That's how I know it's not the real Stonehenge. That looks way too clean. - That one you can walk right up to. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. You can walk right up to it. - But imagine those, but if you were looking at it from like fucking a hundred meters away. - Yeah. - That's Stonehenge. - Have you guys ever been to Killarney? - I don't know.

Killarney in Ireland. Like where the stone is? It's Christmas in Killarney, yeah. Yeah. I have been there. I've been to a lot of Ireland. I've been there. Did you kiss it? No, because it was during COVID.

And I was like, nah, I do not wanna fucking kiss a stone. - What is this? Can I see this? - The Kalani stone is this fucking stone that's like in this castle. - You have to go under. - You literally have to get like hung over the edge of this castle wall to kiss the stone that supposedly is like, I don't remember. - It brings you luck. - Something some bullshit like that, yeah.

- Yeah. - Killarney, the area is fucking gorgeous. - It is so pretty. - Beautiful. - I mean, Ireland is fucking beautiful. One of like the most beautiful countries I've ever been to. - The Blarney stone, sorry. - Oh, it's Christmas. - Yeah. It's just this fucking stone. - Oh, jack 'em off. - You literally hang over the edge of a castle to kiss the stone. - Did you do this? - We both did it, don't you remember? - I do not remember this. - We did it. - There is no photo evidence I did that. I feel like I wouldn't do that. - No, we didn't take any photos of it. - I feel like I wouldn't do that.

- I might've been the only one. - I feel like I would remember. - God knows what that stone holds. - Yeah, I mean, I'm kind of glad I went during COVID because I was like, oh, thank God I don't have to actually kiss this fucking thing. - Then we got wine afterwards. - I remember that part. I don't remember kissing a stone. - Oh, I kissed it. - I just kind of went 'cause I was like, oh, we're already there. Might as well go fucking see it, whatever.

But it wasn't, yeah, it was whatever. - I remember going to this castle and I remember like going around Ireland and stuff like that. And I mean, Ireland's fucking beautiful. - So beautiful. - We love Wales.

- No, I wouldn't. - It's better than Ireland. - I mean, we went to Wales. - It looks way better than Ireland. Sorry. - People are saying, oh, I'm sorry. - You look beautiful, Wales. - We went to Wales though. - No, we did not go to Wales. - Yeah, we went to Cardiff. - Yeah, we went to Cardiff, right? - Cardiff is mini England. It is also none of the good parts. - What do you mean? There's like castles in the middle of the city. - That castle is a shit excuse for a castle. It's also a keep.

- Oh, my bad. - You would see a real castle in Wales. None of this shit, none of this basic- - What's a real castle? - Is that not a real castle? - That looks like a real castle to me. - That's a real fucking castle. - That's a real castle. - That is not a real, pull up either, I mean, I could just name off a couple. We got Conwy Castle, do Conwy Castle first. It looks fucking sexy. - Conwy Castle. - Conwy. - Conwy Castle. - Y-W. W-I, sorry, W-I. Yeah, there.

- Oh, Conwy. - Oh, that's actually, oh, that's nice. - That's a very sleek castle. - Yeah, look at that, boom. It's also castle walls that go around the whole town. - It's giving shiddley. - Shiddley? - Go to the aerial shots of it outside. That's how it looks. - Oh, okay, that's cool. - And then you can see the top down view on the left side there. You know you got that. - It's all right. - Both of you assume, Connor, that I give a shit about castles. - I've seen better. - Poe's Castle, fucking beautiful.

- It's all right. - I mean, I'm sure they're here for it. - Okay, this reminds me, one thing I've always been curious about is why do Americans have like Renaissance fairs? - Renaissance? - Yeah, Renaissance fairs. - Why do you say renaissance? - Well, I was talking to someone about this. They were like, "Why don't you guys do this in the UK?" I'm like, "It's kind of like just our old history with magic shit." - Yeah, but it's fun. It's fun to just dress up and be like,

- It is a really American thing, isn't it? - It's a really like, there are two things that I think when I went to Wisconsin for the first time was just like, whoa, what the fuck is this? One of them was like Renaissance fairs or Renaissance fairs. The other one was like state fairs. Does every state have a fair? - Yeah, every state has a fair.

What's the difference? What do you do at a state fair? It's massive. Yeah, they're big. Oh, the state fair in Wisconsin is fucking massive. What is it? Is it like an amusement park or what? There's a lot of rides, but there's also people, like small farms trying to sell their produce as well as just like...

- This is where people would sell their beer. And then it's just a lot of live music and drunk people. - Yeah, mainly drunk people. - Sign me up. - I'm not gonna lie, State Fair in Wisconsin, I don't know about the other State Fairs. - Milwaukee State Fair, let's fucking go! - I love it. - Milwaukee State Fair was definitely just a lot of farms, farm animals. - Yeah, and then you get to see baby pigs and chicks and you'd be like,

- What the fuck was that? - It's like a giant- - That looks like freedom. - Oh, that's freedom, all right. - And the one thing I had to try, which is one of the most disgusting pieces of food I've ever had in my life is a chocolate bacon. - Chocolate bacon. - Chocolate bacon. Why is that a thing? - I thought you were gonna say corn dogs. I hate corn dogs. - I hate corn dogs as well. - Couldn't be me.

I love American dogs. Yeah, chocolate bacon. Ew. This shit. It does look like poo. Why? Why do you have to include... Okay, I don't understand America's obsession with bacon. I don't get it. Why? Has someone not had American bacon? I have. I mean, I like bacon, but like chocolate bacon? This doesn't need to exist. Yeah. Okay, I will agree with that, but I will say, wait, hold the fuck on a minute. What do you mean? Let me gather my...

- What do you mean American bacon's whatever? Compared to Australian bacon? - I don't like bacon at all. - Who are you? - Joey. - I don't like bacon. - I like it, I just think the British stuff's way better. - Go fuck yourself, actually. - It's way better. - Actually, seriously,

Go clone yourself in another fucking factory and fuck it because honestly at this point you're making no sense. - It's like the most whatever part of the pig. - Why would I not want higher quality bacon? - It's ham. - No, you're right honey, you're right. - It's the most whatever part of the pig. - American bacon is better than British bacon. - What's a good part of the pig then, Joey? - Pork belly. - A million times better than bacon. - I'll say it there, I'm par. - Dude, look at that. - No way. - Oh my God, bro, look at that. That's just pure meat. - No, no, give me.

- Give me the fat. - All the great flavor of bacon. - Give me the fat. - Give me the fat. - I want the grease. - Give me the fat of streaky bacon. - Why does American bacon taste so different?

- 'Cause it's processed to shit. - Yeah, it's processed to shit. - More like processed with kisses. - Now give me the crispiness, give me the fat, that's where all the flavor is. - To be fair, I am biased. I don't care much about any breakfast foods. I don't eat breakfast, so I don't care about- - Okay, bacon is not a breakfast food. - Hatch browns. - Bacon is not exclusively a breakfast food. - Yeah, but even still, it's like, okay, like bacon on a burger, like I don't care about it.

- I do admit, the bacon on burgers is so overrated. - It doesn't add anything to it. - America's obsessed with it. - What's your biggest American comfort food? What is the American food you still miss now? - American hash browns. - American hash browns? - American hash browns with egg yolk on top of it. - Wait, which one? Do you like the more solid ones or the ones where they like shred a bunch of?

- Fuck you. - I love the shredded ones. Actually, that's the one thing I think Americans do well is the American. - I hate the shredded hash browns. - Why? - With the egg yolk in it. - All these ones. - Yeah, these hash browns. - I fuck with these. - These are fucking great. - I prefer the McDonald's wedge.

- Could not be me. - Because I love the outside crunchy exterior with the like warm, like soft, like mushy interior. - If this is done right, it should be like a little bit of crunchiness. - Like right where you bite the top. - And like all the softness. - Dude, dog, you had me at potatoes. - I would definitely love this as well, but I just, I prefer the McDonald one. - Right. - It's like the staple. But I get sick after eating like two of them. - Yeah. Same here. - It's all grease. - Oh, and this isn't. - No.

- No, this is full of kisses. - You are fucking dumb. You're a dumb person. - You're a special one. - You are a special one. - I will never forgive you. - Do you still miss IHOP? - Sometimes. - No, you don't. - Why? I thought we'd grown out of this. Sydney. - Okay, when you, now, when you go back to America, what are the foods that you're like, " I wish I could have those right now." When you're back in America for like- - Monster. - Monster cheese, all right. I will- - Wait, wait, wait, what are you, okay, what?

- No, no, no. I mean like when you're in America. - Monster. - Monster cheese? - Monster cheese goes hard. - Eat it. - It's okay. - You can't get that in America? - What do you mean? When I'm in America? - Yeah, so what I'm saying is like now when you go back to America for like a month, right? - Yeah. - What are the foods that you miss that you can't get in America? - Oh, Yuba. - Okay, other than Yuba. There must be like a dish you're like, "Ah, fuck, I wish I had that right now." - Why are you looking at me? - What the fuck? Why are you looking at me? - Ratna.

- You can't get that from like a Thai restaurant. - It's a very niche one. It's like very much Thai comfort street foods. - What kind of like ingredient would you like? What's the main ingredient?

- It's hard to say. - Is it just like inconspicuous food? - I don't know what it is. Cause it's kind of like a soup, but it's kind of like a, it's kind of like, yeah, it's kind of like noodle gravy. Can you search up? - R-A-D-S-F-A-C-E-N-A. - Dude, I got to piss. That beer is like sucking. - Yeah. - Thai Chinese. - Yeah, so it's Thai Chinese. So it's very, very similar taste profile to like Chinese soup, but you have, you have,

Rice noodles and I don't know where whatever it is get that in my body. Yeah, it is this shit is delicious. Damn.

I haven't seen any Thai, like foreign Thai restaurant serve this because I think... Oyster sauce, pork shoulder. Oyster sauce is like the fucking light in the darkness, bro. That shit tastes so good. Oyster sauce is just goaded, man. It adds such flavor to everything. Yeah. Hell yeah. No, because I remember where Sydney had to learn trial by fire how to eat spicy food. What do you mean how to learn to eat? Because when we moved to Thailand, she had just like started...

changing her palette from like the normal American palette. - The white girl palette. - The white girl palette, I miss IHOP to like eating like the spiciest motherfuckers, drunken noodles, all that shit. - I want spicy food. - I wanna try drunken noodles.

- I've never had it. Probably 'cause I was too much of a bitch to eat like the spice, but I think now- - Next time we're in Thailand, no pad thai. - I feel like now I can take on the drunkenness. - What is it that I really fuck? Is it morning glory? Is that what I like a lot? - Morning glory. - Is it the green thing? - Yeah. - I fucking love morning glory. - What is it? - It's called . - Okay, we'll put morning glory in the- - Put Thai morning glory. - Dude, this shit.

I could eat this for the rest of my life. - Oh, this stuff. - We had it at the restaurants in Switzerland. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - When it's done right, it's so, so good. - Yeah, this shit's awesome. - Yeah, I fucking love this shit. This is the shit my grandma used to cook for me whenever I'd go to Thailand. - Hell yeah. - I just think I was built to be in Thailand.

- Yeah, that's why you only like going for three days. - I wanna take you guys to a Muay Thai fight. - When I was there, man, those Thai ladies, they were shocked at the quality, the quantity and the spice level I would eat. I'd be like more, more. - Oh, for long. - Give me more. - They looked at you pig, but they were like this can't be right. - I think the first Thai dish that you liked was actually my mom's dish, right? - Green curry. - Green curry. - That's funny. - Green curry is so good. - It really is.

- Even like bad green curry that I've had, it's still pretty good. Like when it's mid, I'm like, it's the spot. - I'm saline it. - Yeah, I think when we had the Thai wedding, I think Connor ate like half. - Most of the fucking. - I think I ate more than anyone. - Yeah, you did. - You literally kept going up to eat. - What was that fucking? - Dude, I mean, are those Thai or like they're just Southeast Asian general? The peanut glazed chicken?

- Oh, you talking about satay? That's more like Southeast Asian. - You probably had, I think like without over exaggerating, I think about 40. - No, no, I had more than 40. It was like 40 per serving.

- And when they had the whole, 'cause I remember there was this part after the wedding where I guess it wasn't catering initially. It was just like everyone, like family had just made stuff. And then I was like, oh fuck yes. And then had the center like area where they just unveiled each dish. And it was like five different types of curries.

And my God, I was first in line, I pushed this kid out of the way, God's Thai niece. I was like, let me at him. - Yeah, I swear like every five minutes, like when you disappear while watching the- - I think I had like nine plates or something over the course of the night. It was something like, it was a personal best for sure. - As I was watching a five hour karaoke session of God's Family, like every time he came back, he just had like 50 more fucking sticks of saute and I'm just like, God damn. - That saute, I've been thinking about that ever since.

- Yeah. - Oh, that was so good. What do you remember about the Thai wedding? 'Cause my perspective was like completely different from your perspective. - Yeah, because like, to be fair, I just remember like, I didn't know what the fuck was going on. So like, when you guys- - Me neither. - No, when you guys came down and like you guys were kneeling down there and they carried me down the stairs, I'm like, first of all, like,

What's going on? And they're like, oh, the monks are gonna do the chanting. And I'm like, okay. Just kneel down and put your hands like this. And then I'm just sitting there and listening to a monk chant. And then I'm just like whipped with water. And I'm like, I did not just wake up at 4 a.m. And then I'm just like,

- And I was looking at Gart. - But they had like a hundred people in your living room. It was so unusual. I was like, what the fuck? - That's my favorite part of every like a booty ceremony. It's like when I know it's like a fucking real one when they, so I don't know what, I don't know what the word for this particular ceremony is, but sometimes the monks will take some water and they'll take like a bunch of sticks, dip it in the water

And then they'll just like fucking chuck it on everyone. And I just remember I was like this and I'm like, what the fuck? Like nobody told me this was going to happen. And then I was like, I was looking over and then they're like, close your eyes. And I'm like, close your eyes. It's like, it's fine. I'm like, okay. And I'm just sitting there like.

What's going on? And then I was rushed upstairs and then they were like, "Oh, you have to hide from Garn." I'm like, "What?" - And then I had to Fortnite dance. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Would you be able to see any of that at all? - I was. I was, I was there. And then I forgot that- - God, that new Fortnite fucking- - On like a fucking bridge, I was Fortnite dancing against some Thai man. - It was so surreal. You were just Fortnite dancing while about a hundred Thai dudes were like,

Because they're like, oh,

- It was a trial. My trial was to dance battle someone for some reason. And I obviously didn't know what the fuck to do. - I had to do like pushups, I think. - Yeah, there's new pushups as well. - Yeah, that was weird. - I just remember, I was like, I would always ask you, I'm like, "Who's that person, Garnt?" And you're like, "No idea." And I'd be like, "Who's this person?" And you're like, "No idea." - There's like 300 people at the house. And it was like mostly like Garnt's mom's friends. And I was like, "Bro, I have no idea." Like, "Oh, we met once." I'm like, "Yeah, sure." - I wouldn't say no idea. It was more like, so...

- They're my auntie, but they're not- - I feel like you didn't want to get into it. You were like, "I don't want to get into it." - It's a long story. - This is like five relations removed. - Yeah. So I know her because my mom was friends with this person and then this person introduced them to this person. So she's my auntie. - Yeah, right. - So what's your favorite Thai dish? Is it that now? 'Cause I feel like

- A very underrated Thai dish is boat noodle. - That doesn't sound appetizing. - It is good though. - But the name boat noodle. - Can we see what it looks like? - Yeah. - Sorry, I'm not trying to be like, that's not shit. Boat noodle is not a great name. - This is great. - It looks phenomenal. - It is. - Oh my God, that looks amazing. - It is a very, very underrated Thai dish. And it's getting more popular.

And a lot of times it's called Boat Unix because a lot of times it's served on like a boat, a Thai boat. And when I was a kid, there'd always be different spots in different places where you go to a local place and you basically order, you know, it's kind of like they do the sushi thing where you order a dish at a time and then you stack the dishes up.

- I did that at your wedding. - With saute. - But this is like, normally if it's a real bone nu, it's like super, super fucking spicy.

- 'Cause you can tell how local it is by how red, like how much fucking chilies is floating on the soup. And next time we're in Thailand, I'd love to take you there. - I wanna come back, dude. The food was fucking good. - It was. - 'Cause you usually have like a box of tissues next to it because it's just like your nose is running the whole time, especially when you're in super hot weather. It's honestly hell on earth, but God, is it so good.

- Next time we're in Thailand, love to take you to like, it still like hurts me to know that you guys went to Thailand and ate like so much pad thai. It hurts me to like my soul. - We did it like one time. - Yeah. - I think we only had pad thai like one time. - Even once is too much. - Yeah. - Once is too much. - The green curry at the hotel blew me away. I ordered room service green curry at the hotel, phenomenal. It was amazing. - Really? - And it was like $2. - I will say, I will say the one, okay. The worst Thai food I've had,

I'm gonna call you out. Thai Airways, what is going on with Thai Airways food? - Fix your food, Thai Airways. - Come on, it's just like- - It was pretty bad. - It was bad. - I legit don't even remember. - Bro, I wanna rep my own country, but like Thai Airways, the food is just not good. - Damn. - I was so pumped to fly with them too, 'cause I was like, "Dude, yeah, we get Thai food on the way over." And it was bad. - Yeah. - Man, I don't fucking remember eating it, eh?

- Yeah, Thai Airways, like I've had Thai food on like planes and like even like AirAsia, which is like a budget airline has better Thai food than Thai Airways, which the Thai food I had on Thai Airways just fucking sucks. - That was really bad. - Yeah, my mom had Thai Airways food as well. And I'm like, and she's like, this is abysmal. - Disgusting. - It's just like, what's happened? - Like surely you could like,

- I get that, I don't know. I don't know how you do it. Like bring a fucking pot on that just fills- - Just bring a pot. - Yeah, a giant pot that you keep warm somewhere and it's got the most fire. - How would you sneak that in through security? - No, no, no, as in like the airline. - Oh yeah. - If they had like a giant pot that they like induction heated up or some shit. I don't know how it works. - Just like ladle it in a fucking bowl. Like everybody's holding a bowl. - I was trying to tell you guys about this last time. If you go to ANA, get the ramen on ANA. It's so good.

- We get it in the... - No, no, ANA. - Okay. - Get an ANA. - ANA specifically apparently. - ANA ramen. - I like the udon. - No, don't fucking get that. - I did it, I got it anyway. - Don't talk to udon about this. - Don't get udon. - What manga have you been reading? - Before that. - Okay. - I will say, the last time we did do this episode, I will say for you guys at least, I've seen more like,

exciting things that have come out like you guys hey everybody here has done voice acting stuff now like yeah yeah garnt you guys were in the you guys were in star rail yeah and then barely i acted as myself where's this going and then you were in um mashall yeah yeah and you were in mashall connor was in say it again sulky spirit chronicles

- You love that show, right? - My favorite. - I really wanted to hear you say it because I just, I was like, everybody already knows it's my favorite. - Just wanted to confirm you remembered. - Joey, I saw you at Sasuke. Oh, not Sasuke, but that one guy. - Oh, Sasuke. - Which is basically Sasuke. - When you were with Star Child, when you guys, oh my God, I was actually shocked and I'm like, what the fuck is, then I was like, Joey's in this? With some of the actors from like,

Yeah, I didn't find out until afterwards where I was just like, oh, wow, these are like, I know these people. Yeah. And at the time, I had no idea who these people were. That was cool. Yeah, that was pretty, I was like, that was pretty, that was pretty cool. Do you want to explain this, Joey? So I voiced in a, it's like an indie animation called The Art of Murder. And I voiced this character called Sosuke, which is basically Sasuke. But I did it, the character can only speak Japanese.

So I had to do all the lines in Japanese while everybody else spoke English. But yeah, there's some like pretty big voice actors. - Yeah. - The voice of, what's her name? Liz Freeman. - Yeah. - The voice of Pomni. - Oh, yeah. - Oh, shit. - She was in that and like Joey Richter and like there's some like pretty big voice. And I had no idea who these people were when I was doing it. I was like, "Oh, these are some cool people." - Just like get a project like, "Yeah, I guess I'll just leave." - Yeah, it's like, "Okay, let's put it down."

- Oh my, yeah, I was like, did you ever saw that? - Oh yeah, that's the character there. Yeah, that character there. That's so scary. Which is basically just so scary. - This is interesting. - Yeah, have you guys, have you seen it? - I haven't seen it now. - It did like really well. - Yeah, no, I saw it's like 20 million now. - Whoa. - It's not, no, it's like 2 million, I think. - I thought it was more. - It's like two or three million. - We can just click on it right now and find out. - Yeah, it's right there. - Yeah. - No, no, no, YouTube. - Yeah, go to YouTube. I think it's like 2 million, if I remember correctly. Yeah, that's it, that one.

- 2.1 million. - Oh, damn. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - But yeah, that's, yeah. - Yeah, it did really well. - Out of the zero. - Yeah. - I'm trying to gas him up, but yeah. - Feels like 20. - It's like 30 million. - It deserves 20 million. - It deserves 20 million. - No, it's a genuinely interesting show, so. - Yeah. - I might do another episode, I don't know. - Yeah, I noticed a lot of indie animation on YouTube is really popping off right now. - Yeah, like Bizarre Circus. - I got to piss so bad, sorry. - Yeah, go for it. - Bizarre Circus. - Digital Circus.

- Digital Circus. - Digital Circus. - I mean, that's on like a different level because- - I mean, that's like, I think in now, right now, it's like the top three most viewed Netflix series ever. - Yeah. - Is that Netflix? - Yeah. They got a deal with Netflix. - Yeah. - Because it did so- - I didn't know that. - Because the first episode on YouTube got like 500 million views or something. - Yeah, it did. - It's fucking insane. I went to the pop-up of this in Ikebukuro. - I didn't even know there was one.

- No, there was one. - There was a pop-up of this in fucking Tokyo of all places. - Holy shit. - Yeah, 367 million views. - Jesus Christ. - Yeah, it's, have you seen this? It's fucking good. - I haven't actually, I just know about it. - It's really good. - I watch every episode. - Did you actually? - I have, yeah. - Yeah, there's like four. - You've never talked to me about it.

- I like watching a lot of indie stuff on YouTube, sir. - Okay, did you watch it or did you like- - I watched it, I watched it. - It's genuinely really funny. - So tell me what this is like while you're playing Stardew Valley, honey. - No, I actually got surprised because a guy I grew up with, we did voice acting together, Michael Kovach. He was like voicing this, I'm like,

I've known him. - Wait, who does he play? - The purple guy. - Oh, Jax. - Yeah. - Yeah, I fucking love that guy. - Oh yeah. - And then, yeah, I was like pretty, I was like, oh my God, I know him. And then I watched the rest, I'm like, oh my God, this is interesting. - Yeah, it's really cool. - We also watched like "Hasbin Hotel" as well, which started off as a YouTube pilot. - Yeah. - And it's got picked up by Amazon Prime. - Yeah. - I enjoyed it. I don't know what the consensus is around "Hasbin Hotel." - Don't get it twisted.

I'm not the one. Okay. I've heard so much about Hasbin Hotel, but I have no idea what it is. It's basically a musical. Musical in hell. Yeah. Basically a musical kind of like OG feeding show.

Saturday morning cartoon, except it's not because it's kind of like very raunchy. They swear in it. Oh my God. I remember one of the characters, he drops like the C-bomb and I'm used to hearing like cunt, but like when I heard it in Hasbin Hotel, I was like, damn, that's got that power into it. God damn. - Why does that have a hard T in it? - It's a Oot.

- I missed something. - We're just talking about how when Americans say the C word, it actually sounds like . - It's the hard T. I don't just round it out at the end, you know? - Oh, bleep that out, Mudan. We're gonna get like age restricted with the way you say that, honey. - Have you seen the "Imagined Digital Circus"? - Yeah.

- Really good. - Yeah, it's good. - Yeah, really good. - Yeah, we were basically talking about how like indie animation has kind of just like definitely popped off on YouTube. - Honestly, okay, so as somebody, fuck you. - I mean, it is objectively popular. - I don't know, I'll argue. Okay, I will say it is unfortunately popular. So as somebody who was like, "Were you in Voice Acting Alliance?" - Yes. - Okay. - Before it got hacked, remember that?

So as somebody who grew up on Voice Acting Alliance and like a lot of the people when I watch indie stuff especially like indie animations it's almost amazing how many like everybody is like

Even from back then, it's like all in this now. - I remember, 'cause I think Michael Kovac was in this. - Yeah, Michael! - I used to know him. We used to submit like troll auditions on behind the voice actors. Yeah, he was, even back then though, he was like- - He was amazing. - He was very, very talented. - Like I remember we just did- - He's very hardworking as well and very sweet. - Yeah. - Though we did a little bit of trolling back then. - Sydney's been going through a very unique problem recently.

where there'll be like a new game that has like this romance mechanic in it, right? And they'll release like the, what the different like characters look like. And she's like, "Ooh, I like that guy." - And then they release the voice and it'll be like, "Somebody I know." And it'll be like- - Yeah, you can't, yeah. - And I'm just like, and it's like, there's one character and I'm like, "Oh my God, I'm so ready for this fucking game. He's so hot. I'm gonna romance him. Alejandro."

- Alejandro does fucking voice so much shit. - All you can see is his face. - God dammit, Alejandro, stop it. - But I was like, yeah, I just remember him like, 'cause he's also somebody I've been voice acting with since we were like 14, 15. And I was just like,

- Alejandro, get out of there. - Yeah, I mean, he's killing it right now. - He's murdering it. He's absolutely devouring it after killing it incestuously. - What are you saying? - It's the first word that comes to my head. - The intrusive thoughts are coming out. - I'll let them win.

- Yeah, 'cause Alejandro, yeah. I mean, I knew him for ages and he also voiced in one of my projects. Same with Michael Kovacs actually. - That's right, he did. - They both voiced in my Bridge series before. - It's like people always, how do you get into voice acting? It's like literally just be around. Like, you know, like most of the really like voice actors who are killing it nowadays were there,

from the beginning, online, trying to get into this. They were particularly trying to become voice actors. And so being around it and pursuing it. - Seeing them be so successful, like Jesus. - Yeah, like "Song of One 2", "Song of One" also started online. All these amazing voice actors who you know and love, all of them started from just, well, not all of them, but a good chunk of them started from just being in that space, trying to voice act, falling in love with it and then pursuing it. So when people ask like, "How do you get into it?"

- Just keep being passionate about it. - Just stop doing it. - Just show up. - Yeah, nothing's without the practice. - Hey, look at all these patrons on screen. - Look at all of them. - Sydney, point to your favorite patron. - I like that one. - That one? He's a pretty good one. - He's all right. - That guy was canceled recently.

- Damn, that guy has a bad rap. - We had a fling, we had a fling. I don't really like to admit it. - Loving deep space. - I flicked the temple. - Hey, if you want to be one of these lovely patrons and support the show, then you can do that by going over to patreon.com/trashtaste. Also every single week we have patron exclusive content you can go check out right after this one. But hey, if you want to check that out and support the show, head on over to patreon.com/trashtaste. Also follow us on Twitter, send us some memes on the subreddit. If you don't have it on our face, listen to us on Spotify and go check out Sydney.

Oh yeah, I didn't even introduce myself. Hey, I'm Sydney. I'm SidSnap. Right at the end. They know you. Thanks for watching. All right. See you guys next week. Bye.

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